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Thousands follow six-hour Dom Mintoff cortège

"In his life the bells were rung so that he could not be heard, and in his death, we shout Mintoff, Mintoff inside the church" - GWU Deputy General Secretary

The Labour Party and the people of Cottonera this afternoon bid a poignant farewell to former Prime Minister Dom Mintoff with a cortège which lasted six hours.

Mr Mintoff died on Monday, aged 96. He led the Labour Party for 35 years and stepped down as prime minister in 1984 after having held the helm since 1971. He was also prime minister between 1955 and 1958.

Dom Mintoff.Dom Mintoff.

The cortège went through some of the localities which shaped Mr Mintoff, and other places which are a symbol of his political activities.

The focus of the cortège was on Cottonera - the district which returned Mr Mintoff to parliament for a record 50 years.

Among the stops were Mr Mintoff's residence in Tarxien, his home-town Cospicua and the Freedom Monument in Vittoriosa.

The cortège also went past two former Labour headquarters - the Freedom Press and the Macina, before stopping at current headquarters in Hamrun and then proceeding to the final destination, the Palace in Valletta where Mr Mintoff will lie in state tomorrow and for a few hours on Saturday morning before the state funeral.

Large crowds applauded wherever the cortège went but no political flags were displayed.

THE CORTEGE

9.10 p.m. The cortege arrives in Palace Square followed by Mr Mintoff's relatives and a crowd shouting Mintoff Mintoff. Among them is Joe Camilleri, Mr Mintoff's long serving secretary. A fanfare is played by trumpters of the King's Own Band as the coffin is carried into the Palace and the doors are closed.

8.20 p.m. The cortège drives into Valletta and slowly down Republic Street to the Palace Square - the place where Dom Mintoff celebrated the attainment of the Republic status on December 13, 1974. President George Abela awaits the arrival. The cortège is escorted by Valletta's two bands. People line the street behind police barriers.

8 p.m. The coffin is lowered in front of the Labour Party headquarters. Joseph Muscat places a bouquet of 35 white roses, representing the 35 years of Mintoff's leadership of the party. He stands at the head of the coffin as soprano Claire Caruana sings an aria from the rock opera Gensna.

Yana Bland Mintoff then takes the flowers and hands Dr Muscat a Mintoff commemorative medal, which he shows to the applauding crowd.

The National Anthem is then sung by the soprano.

7.56 p.m. The band plays the International, the socialist anthem and a source of great controversy in the Labour-Church battles of the 1960s. The crowd cotninues to applaud. Some cry, many shout Mintoff.

The cortège arrives in High Street, Hamrun.The cortège arrives in High Street, Hamrun.

7.40 p.m. The cortège arrives in High Street, Hamrun. Just over two years ago the same street witnessed the funeral of Guido de Marco, a Mintoff adversary and friend.

Hundreds of people are lining both sides of the street leading to Labour headquarters. The coffin is taken out of the hearse as Chopin's Funeral March is played by Hamrun's three bands. Labour leader Joseph Muscat and the party leadership are standing outside party headquarters under a huge poster showing a young Dom Mintoff studying post-war reconstruction plans. Also present are MPs and former Labour ministers. Alfred Sant is not among them.

7.40 p.m. The cortège arrives in Hamrun. Hundreds of people are lining both sides of the street leading to Labour headquarters. The coffin is taken out of the hearse as the Funeral March is played by Hamrun's three bands. Labour leader Joseph Muscat and the party leadership are standing outside party headquarters.

7.10 p.m. The cortège stops briefly opposite the Super One complex in Marsa. The staff led by chairman Jason Micallef throw flowers at the hearse. On the way to Marsa the cortège drove past former Labour Health Minister Vincent Moran, who stood outside his villa in Corradino.

Dom Mintoff's coffin is carried inside Cospicua Collegiate Church.Dom Mintoff's coffin is carried inside Cospicua Collegiate Church.
The cortège heads for Cospicua parish church. Picture: Kurt Sansone.The cortège heads for Cospicua parish church. Picture: Kurt Sansone.

6.47 p.m. The prayer service ends with the singing of the Ave Maria, as is typical in Cospicua. The band takes over as the coffin is carried out amid  applause and cheering. A boy carries the Maltese flag, but no political flags have been on show.  The coffin is being carried by soldiers in plain clothes circled by the police. Mintoff's final departure from his home-town is a poignant moment for the residents. As minister, Mintoff was also responsible for the post-war reconstruction of the harbour towns.

The next destination will be Marsa, where, as in the other localities, it will be greeted by the Mayor and the locality's bands.

6.35 p.m.  The cortège, headed by Archpriest Fr Joe Mifsud and Fr Dionysius Mintoff OFM  slowly arrives in front of the packed Collegiate Church of the Immaculate Conception in Cospicua. The bells toll a sombre tone as people applaud. Shouting of Mintoff, Mintoff, inside the church drowns out a choir as the coffin is placed in front of the altar. Prayers are said. Michael Parnis, GWU deputy general secretary, sums up the irony on facebook, saying: In his life the bells were rung so that he could not be heard and in his death, we shout Mintoff, Mintoff inside the church. He was referring to an episode in the 1960s when the bells of a church in Victoria, Gozo, were rung to disrupt a Labour mass meeting.

Mr Mintoff's coffin is draped with the flag of St George's Band in his hometown, Cospicua.Mr Mintoff's coffin is draped with the flag of St George's Band in his hometown, Cospicua.

6.05 p.m. The coffin is taken out of the hearse and carried past St George's Band Club, which Mr Mintoff headed for decades. The coffin is draped with the band's flag.The band plays funeral marches as people throw flowers and struggle for vantage points.

Yana Mintoff hugs a boy outside Cospicua church.Yana Mintoff hugs a boy outside Cospicua church.

5.55 p.m. Right on cue, the cortège arrives in Cospicua. Many people have been waiting for over an hour. Two faint and are given first aid. There is shouting of Mintoff, Mintoff as the hearse is driven opposite the Labour Party Club.

5.35 p.m. Cortège leaves Vittoriosa through the recently built gate at the top of Maingate Street as the band plays its last salute. It will head for Kalkara and then Cospicua, Mr Mintoff's home crowd, where a very large crowd is waiting. The Cottonera district was Mintoff's stronghold and returned him to parliament for 50 years.

5.10 p.m. The cortège arrives in Victory Square, Vittoriosa, to a fanfare by trumpeters of Prince of Wales Own Band and shouting of Viva s-Salvatur ta' Malta. The band accompanies the cortège along the streets of the ancient city. The streets are decorated for the feast of St Dominic this weekend, but the Saturday morning march has been cancelled as a sign of respect for Mr Mintoff.

Mary Spiteri sings on the Freedom Monument.Mary Spiteri sings on the Freedom Monument.

4.48 p.m. Applause rings out as the hearse, covered in flowers, is driven down the hill and arrives at the Freedom Monument in Vittoriosa. Mary Spiteri wipes  tears as she stands at the foot of the monument, opposite the hearse, and sings Tema '79 from the rock opera Gensna, interrupted by applause. A particularly emotional moment for those present. Some people sing with Mary Spiteri. The crowd bursts into chanting of Mintoff, Mintoff. Somebody shouts Grazzi Mintoff in a very loud voice. Members of the Mintoff family including his daughters join the crowd.

4.40 p.m. The cortège drives past the Macina, the Labour Party's former headquarters. Large crowds line the road into Senglea, a bulwark of Labour support.

4.35 p.m. After being driven through Tarxien Square, the cortège drives twice around Paola square amid constant applause by hundreds of people. Flowers are thrown on the hearse.

Flowers are thrown at the hearse.Flowers are thrown at the hearse.

4.15 p.m. Slightly behind schedule, the coffin is carried out of the Mintoff residence in Tarxien and the hearse is driven slowly towards Tarxien Square. People line both sides of the road. Some struggle to touch the hearse as applause continues.

The cortège arrives at Tarxien.The cortège arrives at Tarxien.

3.45 p.m. The cortège arrives outside the former prime minister's residence in Tarxien where a crowd of some 200 applauds as the hearse is driven slowly along the road in front of the house, where Mr Mintoff passed away last Monday aged 96. 

Among those who arrived early outside Mr Mintoff's Tarxien residence this afternoon was Wistin Abela, who served throughout the Mintoff government years as parliamentary secretary and then minister, responsible, among others, for Air Malta and later for finance.

Many people take photos with their mobile phones and shout Viva l-Perit. Some have tears in their eyes.

Leaving the Tarxien residence for the last time. Picture Darrin Zammit Lupi.Leaving the Tarxien residence for the last time. Picture Darrin Zammit Lupi.

The coffin is carried into the house amid constant applause. Flowers which had been placed outside the gate are placed on the coffin.

The members of the Mintoff family pay their tribute at the residence before the coffin is taken to Tarxien Square and then on to Cottonera.

Some of those in the crowd tell timesofmalta that they had prayed that this day would not come. They describe Mr Mintoff as Missier Malta Hielsa and point to social services as one of his main achievements.

3.15 p.m . The hearse drives out from Mater Dei Hospital shortly before 3.30 p.m. escorted by police motorcyclists.

The Dom MIntoff cortege in Vittoriosa. Picture: Luke SciclunaThe Dom MIntoff cortege in Vittoriosa. Picture: Luke Scicluna
Supporters applaude and weep in Vittoriosa.Supporters applaude and weep in Vittoriosa.
The crowd in Cospicua.The crowd in Cospicua.
Picture: Mark Zammit Cordina.Picture: Mark Zammit Cordina.
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Joe Fenech

Aug 24th 2012, 15:02

Issa billi giet ic-cikkulata ta' barra - x'giet? Cikkulata Ingliza zokkor wahidha. Mur ghatiha li xi hadd jaf jiekol bhal xi Taljan jew Franciz!

Eddy Privitera

Aug 24th 2012, 11:31

Gerry Copwie: Even the vast majority of Popes never made it to sainthood !

Eddy Privitera

Aug 24th 2012, 11:33

Imma KMB induna bil-maniggi tal-Kurja u bidel ir-rotta meta ra li Mintoff RIED BISS L-INTERESS TA' PAJJIZNA U TAL-POPLU MALTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

fred sammut

Aug 24th 2012, 11:07

Razzant li minn ghakkisna...... Inglizi u l Kleru ta dak iz zmien
Tajtni kotba pitazzi u halib lis skola bix nitaghallem
Bonus ta LM 58 meta l paga kienet Lm10 !!!
Lil missieri taghajtu leave u sick leave
Dritt lil Gays
Poliklinkki miftuha 24 siegha KULJUM!!!!

etc etc etc

Kellhom bzonn il politici kollha jkollhom nofs l energija li kellu dar ragel ghal pajjijzna.....

GRAZZI PERIT

Mark Cassar

Aug 24th 2012, 12:00

grazzi perit tal-bulk buying....u tat-tuffieh imrancat li kien ikolli nixtri biex niehu kwart perzut minghand tal-grocer.....

grazzi tat-transfers li l-ministri tieghek bellghulna kull darba li xi hadd semma lehnu kontrikom....

grazzi tal-mizerja ta' hajja skwallida li gaghaltna nghixu

it-tifkira ta' dawn m'hi ha tmut qatt!

Mark Cassar

Aug 24th 2012, 12:05

yes....and everything was done, as the italians say, a scapito della gente......Malta was left full of money but the people were living in distress.....having no ability to choose whatever they want to eat ( a basic daily NEED), having no choice but to buy only the things which the Perit allowed on the island....we had the coffers full of money but then, everything was outdated!
And by the way.. I prefer the way we are living today...since I have the choice to buy whatever I like, go wherever I want, and say whatever I wish.....just the opposite of the glorious labour days back in the 80's!

fred sammut

Aug 24th 2012, 11:08

ghax il Funeral statali is Sibt u mhux illum jew ilbierah......

tal bierah jissejah Corteo......

Pat Hobson

Aug 24th 2012, 09:21

@Mark Cassar

I remember:

Mintoff inherited a third world country from the previous PN administration with an already mounting debt of Lm 43,000,000.

Leaving the Maltese Treasury with nearly a Euro 1 billion.

Roads constructed, and new ones opened. Triq Garibaldi, Triq Dicembru 13, etc.

A boom tourist industry. So much so that the country's infrastructure couldn't cope with it, hence the water and electricity cuts.

The technology in telephony advanced after Mintoff's premiership. It's no use trying to find fault in this field. As for computers, they were introduced in Malta in 1982. The only fear Mintoff head about computers, is that they may take the place of the workers.

The mentioning or not mentioning the name of the Leader of the Opposition on Xandir Malta, lasted only 3 days. You're mentioning as though it lasted years.

As for the removal of "Malta" from titles, just tell me where you find in other countries titles with the name of the country all over magazines, shops, associations and everything. In Malta, everything was in exaggerated mode. And you know why, because there was a clause, that if Malta is used, there would have been some sort of subsidy. As for 'In-Nazzjon", the PN didn't apply for the title, because they preferred to use the Malta map for obvious political reasons

I deplore those acts of violence you mention. Every labourite deplores those acts of violence.

What removal of public holidays? Where are you living now? On planet Mars?

Bulk buying. You make me laugh. Do you know why bulk buying was introduced.? Did you know that the businessmen were raising the cost of living artificially to hinder the government in its work? Yes, that was the reason for bulk buying. The PN and the businessmen didn't like it. As for waiting for weeks to buy something from the grocer, you've just had your answer.

Special friendships with Ghaddafi, Ceaucesu, and all the communist leaders of the world? Still living in Mars, I presume.

As or the internet, you really don't know what you're saying. The internet is the product of the early 90's. And by the way, as I said before, computers were introduced when Mintoff was still Prime Minister.

Mr C Camilleri

Aug 24th 2012, 10:01

With all due respect but you really do not know what you are saying. You mention such things as water and electricity cuts and the telephone system BLA BLA BLA.... I am old enough to remember those days and I assure you that my parents always fed me very good food and whatever other people say I loved the chocolate that was sold those days even though many PNs say it tasted like soap. I do not remember suffering the water and electricity cuts even though i remember them. But I remember such cuts under PN.

And PLEASE spare me the burning of this and that. As if PNs did not do the same not to mention the burying of Labour Party people in Maghtab grounds because they were considered rubbish. And children and adults not being allowed in church because they were labour. Not to mention some people that still have huge hatred towards PL and they want them to rot in hell and if possible not even there and they make all this VERY PUBLIC.

I could keep on going but if Malta had to endure Mintoff's rule I assure you Malta has to endure PN rule nowadays with all disasters it is making one after the other. Starting from the super power station.

Surely Mintoff did not do everything right. I would be silly to think that and Im sure there are things which could have been done better or less agressively but under Mr Cassar that he came, loved Malta, gave what was possible and maybe needed AT THAT TIME and left Malta RICH. PN came, took everything, got corrupted, destroyed most of Malta and left MALTA POOR !

And times change Mr Cassar, so do not mention the right to write what you want and the computer. That is technology that came after Mintoff. My God, get your timeline straight ! Cause in 1985 i got my first computer and 1993 I had internet at home and this not becuase of PN but because AT THAT TIME technology started progressing into houses.

Times change Mr Cassa and elections make sure of that but some people still do not understand it. If you think that Mintoff would have survived more elections with such rules you are mistaken and that is why PN got elected later. But i would rather be eating a Husky chocolate tasting of soap rather that seeing my country riding towards disaster as is happening now.

Anthony Falzon

Aug 24th 2012, 10:11

WELL SAID MARK, HOW VERY TRUE..

Mark Cassar

Aug 24th 2012, 12:25

@ Pat Hobson,

yes Pat, as I already said in another comment...Mintoff left the coffers full of money but everything in Malta was in shambles!
What boom in the tourist industry? Were you in Malta?!
What technology in telephony?! It was worse than that in a third world country! Don't you remember calling someone and finding someone else speaking on the same line as you?!
Are you sure that not mentioning EFA's name on Xandir Malta lasted 3 days only? And if it was the case (which I am sure it wasn't), was it right to do so?
As regards the names "Malta" and "Nazzjon"....you just drove past my comment....Yes....the much beloved perit forced The Times to remove Malta from the name, forced Malta Missjunarja to change name, and forced PN to remove Nazzjon from the paper's name!

Deploring acts of violence today then is something natural for labourites...pity it took them till JM was leader to discover that they had violent elements within them! And pity that you didn't deplore these same acts when they took place! You and your kind want the rest of Malta to forget..but I will never forget Zejtun for instance...I will not forget Rabat...I will not forget the thugs which used to beat the hell out of us at PN activities!!! I forgave them long ago....things change..but forgetting would be an insult to the history of Malta!

As regards removal of public holidays...what public holidays have we lost today? Every one of them is still in place...if it falls on a sunday it won't be carried on to Monday...what's the deal? How different it is from the removal of, say Independence Day or Mnarja!!! And these were removed even if they fell on Monday, Tuesday and so on!!

You still drove past my comment on the friendship with communist leaders.....I think that you were not on Mars then....but either on Saturn, on Jupiter or Pluto......The special friendship with Gaddafi was especially shown on 31/3/1979...when the Lybian tyrant came here as if he was the true saviour of the Maltese from the British and treated as a hero!
I still remember ceausescu handshaking Mintoff and KMB! I still remember the treaty signed by AST with Kim Jong Il, or whatever his name was!

As regards computers....Mintoff didn't want computers....his opinion was that they were useless...the internet is something recent, compared to Mintoff's time...but if it was for him we would be living in a totalitarian state....with every thing controlled by the regime...so rest assured...writing what either I or you wrote is not something given as a blessing by Mintoff....because I repeat: if it was for him we would not be doing so!

Marco Gauci

Aug 24th 2012, 19:26

Naqbel mija fil mija ma Mr Cassar.

Ma kienx hemm ghazla ta' prodotti fil 1970's bhal m'hawn illum fis sena 2012.

Illum bil credit cards tixtri li trid !!! Halli wara toqghod thallas id-dejn.

Pero ghazla u mhux ghazla il problema baqghet l-istess ghax b'paga minima ta' ftit aktar minn Euro600 fix-xahar ma tantx ghandek ghazla.

Some food for thought Mr Cassar.

Pule' Carmel

Aug 28th 2012, 20:57

In a modern Europe, the third line no longer applies. Producers no longer exist, now it is a case of inventing " unnecessary projects" financed by Brusssels with paper money to reduce unemployment whose earnt money will be depreciated so fast that the work done would have been done by slavery.

Mr saviour magro

Aug 24th 2012, 10:09

Ahna meditteranji sur Gando, demmna shun u meta titlef xi hadd kbir min hajtek bla ma trid kultant tkun esteriku. fi dinja mhux kulhadd l-istess probbali jien hu int qaghdna insegwu mid dar, u l-emmozzjonijiet taghna kienu differrenti jistgha jkun li hsibijiet taghna fdan il-hin huma differenti.pero nista nigarantilek jien li meta jigi nieqes l-eccelenza tieghu EFA niggarantilek jien min issa li ha jkun hemm l-istess isterizmu. hu ghaliex le wara kollox, la thoss li dik il-persuna fil-politika taghtek xi haga fil-hajja.inti qatt ma segwejt xi funeral l-italja ta xi persuna importanti ?T'ahseb li Alla ha ghalih ghax in-nies ghamlu hekk?

John Farrugia

Aug 23rd 2012, 23:22

Ma stajtx tissimplifika l achievements tal Perit ahjar minn hekk.

Grazzi Dom, RIP

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:14

What mockery Mr. Rizzo? Doesn't the Maltese people have the right to show its appreciation of this great man's deed? Yes, there was organization. If there wasn't who knows what would have happened? And what political mileage? Does respecting one's dead is gaining political mileage. How small-minded can you be?

ALBERT FENECH

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:18

Il-Perit Dom Mintoff - dead or alive - IS political mileage and that's NOT on Malta's say-so - the world says so. Read all the international obituaries by the world's leading media or would you have us believe these have also been "engineered" and "staged"?

ALBERT FENECH

Joseph Brincat

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:19

Michael Rizzo
Today, 20:05
HE IS DEAD >> BUT HE IS ALIVE IN OUR MINDS FOR EVER !!!!

Monica Muscat

Aug 23rd 2012, 22:25

I to would have thought that more dignity and respect should have been shown. But of course, even after his death, Dom Mintoff seems to be reaping what he sowed.... Not that he would have cared....I think that now, beyond caring, he will be laughing his head off at the mockery they made of his funeral!!!

A. Attard

Aug 23rd 2012, 22:32

Mr. Rizzo seriously u and people like u should take theire negativity somewhere else! A mockery for reall?? uwejja man!!

M Darmanin

Aug 24th 2012, 01:50

Mr Rizzo .. did you not do the same during other statesmen who passed away from your political party ???? Oooops sorry you can do it but the lejburisti no ..... give us a break ... I went to concerts with a tribute to Guido de Marco and Mrs Fenech Adami and still I applauded them because I respect everyone especially the dead.

Steve Pace

Aug 24th 2012, 06:55

@ Albert Fenech.... you mean this kind ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/politics-obituaries/9490070/Dom-Mintoff.html

Steve Pace

Aug 24th 2012, 06:57

@ Albert Fenech -

or perhaps you mean this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19327913

mark borg

Aug 24th 2012, 07:37

you should be ashamed of your jelousy michael rizzo .
now watch next saturday ...and feel more envy ! because malta will always adore the great DOM ....irrespective of a couple of hundred frustrated people like yourself.

Charles Micallef

Aug 24th 2012, 07:56

The one person who should hide his face in shame is you Mr Rizzo, you are obviously are so politically biased to the extent that you lost every respect for your country's leaders.

Mintoff is respected by world leaders and the people who care of their past history,
obviously this does not include you!

Mario Camilleri

Aug 24th 2012, 07:07

Dr Bezzina, naqbel mieghek perfettament ghax jien bhalek inhoss li din il-mewt ukoll serviet ta GID kemm ghal laburisti kif ukoll ghal hafna eluf li ma jiftakrux lil mintoff u f'temp ta erbat itjiem saru jafu tassew minn kien kontra dawk il-hafna li kien jaqblilhom li jghidu kontrih!!!
Jien nghid haga wahda, tal-PN jistaw iwahlu 100 billboard ghax mal-WIEHED li jwahlu tal-PL bir-ritratt sabih li ghamlu fil-faccata tal-kwartieri lanqas ha jibdew fl-elezjoni li gejja.
Tkaxkira rekord.

Mr David Ganado

Aug 23rd 2012, 22:26

Were you around when the last prime minister died?

MALCOLM SEYCHELL

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:41

u dan meta il partit prova ikissru ftit snin ilu

Luciano Pace Parascandalo

Aug 24th 2012, 00:42

it-tajjeb u l-hazin ta' bniedem ma jolqottx lil kulhadd l-istess....min intlaqat hazin ma kienx fit-toroq illum

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:15

Michael Rizzo, it was a family tiff, and the PN made the most of it! The PN drove a wedge between Mintoff and Sant, so that it can gain the upperhand as it was known would happen. Much contrary to what happened in these last few months.

Frank Zahra

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:38

Mr. Rizzo,

Definitely that the labour supporters were angry at the time cos we did not understand the reasoning behind those decisions way back in 1998. Yes we were all angry. That is one of the mistakes that Mintoff did in my opinion. PN gave all its best to take political advantage out of it.

Having said this, the Maltese people will never ever ever forget what Mintoff did to our country and in some way or another, everyone PN & PL supporters is benefiting from them. The means, yes, can be questioned but the results no.

Yes, its like when you fight with a member of your family, it happens, you get angry and maybe it takes a while until things go back to how they used to be, but that will still remain your family and is never forgotten.

Paying such tribute to Mintoff, is the least that Malta can do to show its gratitude to the work that Mintoff did in his political life.

J Busuttil

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:41

@ Pat Hobson

Pat Michel is correct you are totally wrong. The same people mourning him today are the same ones who had called him a traitor. It is written in our political history books.

Was Alfred Sant present near the PL headquarters if not I have my doubts if he has ever pardoned him ( Mintoff)

Now by gone's are by gone's

E. Vassallo

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:34

After Fenech Adami of course...But I forgot Mintoff was the saviour for left wingers or......?

MALCOLM SEYCHELL

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:12

Who those 50 people which Fredu Sant managed to get for his meeting?

G Schembri

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:37

Don't be silly, why bring this up today? Don't all families have a fight every now and then. Both Mintoff and Alfred Sant wanted what was best for Malta, they only had different views. They both had very strong characters and they called each others bluff. At least Alfred Sant resigned and did not cling to power, when he realised he had lost the majority in parliament.

Steve Pace

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:10

@ G. Schembri - Don't want to burst any bubbles, but have i missed it or Dr. Alfred Sant made no comments on any media so far.. correct me if i am wrong..

R Axisa

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:18

@Steve Pace - yes Dr Sant made public comments - saw him on TV!

G Schembri

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:30

Steve Pace - You are wrong, Alfred Sant said that Mintoff was a great man, do you think our journalists did not bother to ask for his comments.

Eddy Privitera

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:35

Twanny Borg: U int u dawk li llum qed tippruvaw izzebilhuh, kontu tant fahhartuh fin- 1998 - IPOKRITI !!!

Frans Aguis

Aug 24th 2012, 00:13

@Steve Pace... Yes you are wrong.

Steve Pace

Aug 24th 2012, 06:46

@G.Schembri - For all that it's worth even EFA said that..... we all seem to think about the good about a person when unfortunately he / she passes over to better life. Pity we don't show as much admiration when he / she is alive...

mark borg

Aug 24th 2012, 07:22

mhux kulhadd ikollhu xi jghid ? allura nehhi ftit l-ghira li ghandek u irispetta f jum ta luttu lil dan ir ragel legendarju li se jibqa jissemma ghal mijiet ta snin ohra ..jigifieri l-ghira tieghek u ta ftit nies ohra bhalek ...kollhu ta xejn ghax dal bhiedem mexxa lil malta ghal hafna snin u miet mewta dinjituza bi tlett kwarti tal pajjiz jibku mewtu !

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:21

Twanny Borg, vera ma taf xejn fuq l-istorja ta' pajjizek. TAht Mintoff iz-zidiet kienu regolari. Il-pagi taht Mintoff gholew b'6 darbiet jekk mhux b'izjed. Li semmejt dwar it-tonn taz-zejt, u kollox, dik kienet biex jikkontrolla l-gholi tal-hajja, ghax in-negozjanti kienu jghollu l-affarijiet kif gie gie, u minghajr kontrol biex igibu dahru mal-hajt il-gvern. Dwar il-pulizija, spjegali l-fatt li hafna minnhom, wara li tela' gvern nazzjonalista, hafna minnhom hadu promotion. Niehu pjacir jekk tispjegali daqsxejn dan il-fatt. Dwar li Mintoff ghamel il-hsara il-knisja, vera ma taf xejn. Mela min difen lill-Laburisti fil-mizbla? Min difen lill-laburisti minghajr is-sagramenti? Min ma ried izewweg lill-laburisti fil-knisja, izda fis-sagristija? Nistenna twegiba jekk jghogbok.

Anthony Grech

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:43

Twanny Borg kieku ma kienx dan il-bniedem kieku int illum l-anqas taf taqra u tikteb, naturalment jekk ma intix minn tal-High Class.

R. Azzopardi

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:03

Pat Hobson,

Possibbli l-wage freeze ta erbgha snin jew aktar insejtha? Il-friza totali fuq il-krejja tant li s-sidien tal-propjeta mietu foqra insejtha? L-gheluq ta l-iskejjel privati u tal-knisja insejtu (jew ma kienitx tghodd ghalik ghax dak lussu zejjed)? Il-hbiberija ma mexejja barranin mistmerrija mid-dinja kollha qatt ma fissret xejn ghalik? Kontroll assolut fuq li jidhol u ma jidholx fil-pajjiz tahseb li kien sew go pajjiz modern? Il-fatt li kull ma kellna bzonn kellna nixtruh minn Sqallija ghax li konna insibu hawn kien tal-qamel possibbli kien jghaddi ghalik? Il-frazi "I MALTESE SONO AFFAMATI" li kienet miktuba b'kitba daqs dinja fuq hajt fil-port ta' Sqallija ma kienitx iggieghlek tisthi?

Dawn l-affarijiet KOLLHA ghexnihom. Mintoff vera ghen liz-zghir pero billi kasbar lil kbir. U kun af haga. Biex tiehu l-frott, trid tiehu hsieb lis-sigra. In-negozjant, l-imprenditur, l-employer huwa s-sigra. Jekk ma tibzax ghalih, inutli tibza ghaz-zghir ghax mhux se jkun bizzejjed.

E. Vassallo

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:36

@Twanny Borg

ma ghedtx l-istorja kollha...Mela insejt il-korp tal-pijunieri u l-industriji kbar fi zmienu bhal dik tal-kappar.

Aaron Cassar

Aug 23rd 2012, 22:09

GRAZZI PERIT TAL GID LI HALEJTILNA

twanny borg

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:13

borg olivier is-salvatur ta' malta ghax huwa gab l-indipendenza niddettaw ahna. mintoff ried l-integration.

R Abela

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:15

twanny borg tant konna niddettaw ahna li aqqas stajt tersaq lejn certu postijiet, ghax jigi xi suldat ingliz u jkeccik l'hemm.

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:16

@Twanny Borg. GBO gab nofs indipendenza, imma biex nghidu l-verita gab il-bidu tal-vera ndipendenza. Mintoff kompla fejn halla Borg Olivier. Dwar l-integration, kieku ghaddiet ta' Mintoff, kieku, ilna fl-EU min-1973! Tajjeb li tkun taf li meta m'ghaddietx ta' Mintoff l-Integration, u tajjeb tkun taf, li Mintoff ried li bl-Integration, konna se nkunu ndaqs ma l-Inglizi f'kollox, mhux semplici kolonja, ghajjat mall-ewwel ghall-Indipendenza. Borg Olivier dak iz-zmien ried Quasi Dominion Status, jigifieri anqas indipendenza shiha! Kun af l-istorja sew qabel ma tparla siehbi!

M Damato

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:59

@ Pat Hobson
Forsi dak kien (wiehed) mill-ikbar zbjali tieghu.... Li ma baqghax jippersisti ghall-integration.
Kif ghamlu wara kollox in-nazzjonalisti ghall-eu.

G Schembri

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:03

Twanny Borg, taghllem il-vera storja ta Malta mhux dak li jbellawlek. L-inipendenza tal-1964, kien ghad ghandna Regina kap tal-istat Malti, l-airport u Xandir f'idejn l-Inglizi, u gvernatur Ingliz. Kif tela Mintoff, ghamel gvernatur Malti, Sir Anthony Mamo, ghamel fthiem gdid ghal hlas tal-bazzi, u beda jahdem ghar-Republika. sentejn Wara Sir Anthony Mamo sar l-ewwel President ta' Malta u Malta saret Republika - Hemm veru sirna mexxeja taghna stess. Hemm veru bdejna niddettaw ahna.

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:04

@Damato. Ma setax. Malli l-Inglizi raw li Malta se tiggwadanja izjed milli se tiggwadanja l-Ingilterra, m'accettawhx ir-referendum. Ghalhekk Mintoff hareg jghajjat bl-Indipendenza. Naturalment, il-Knisja kienet kontra l-integration, bl-iskuza li konna se nsiru protestanti!

Mario Micallef

Aug 23rd 2012, 23:08

iva ergajt, tista tghidlina inti min itni u x'inti, iva bis-serjeta li ghidt li kellna l-indipendenza? Forsi jekk thaddem ftit mohhok, u qalbek, immissek ghidt, Gorg Borg Olivier, beda t-triq, biex Malta giet verament hielsa, u le, din x'tip ta'argumentagg ghandek ghid?Mela qed tahsibna boloh? Jew tant inhsadt b'dak li rajt ftit ilu, li tak ferh ta'genn,?

Brian Farrugia

Aug 24th 2012, 06:57

La il maltin ma riedux l-integration warraba Mintoff u ghazel l-alternativa.

B Agius

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:21

My father, one of many, fought a war for your country, Mr Saunders, and when it ended the British army kicked him out. He had a family to feed and had to sell what little we had to scrape a living. How about that? Everyone dreams of independence and self rule - if you know your history it's full of struggles to do just that. Your Winston Churchill once declared this island unsinkable so I don't think it will sink without your contribution - although it is always welcome. Peace be with you and your own.

Lesley Darmanin

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:36

Contrary to any impression that might be given, Mr Saunders, there are many in Malta who are not mourning Mintoff's passing away either. As for all this nonsense about "kicking the English out". it is just Labour Party mythology. It is the narrow-minded view of a pathetic island mentality upon which the Maltese Labour Party thrives so well - vide Labour's position on the European Union and immigration, to mention just two examples.

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:42

Don't worry Mr. Saunders, we didn't lose any sleep either after you left. To tell you the truth, we felt really free. We felt a nation!

ANTHONY PAVIA

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:50

It is a blessing that your opinion is NOT shared by the majority of your countrymen who were associated with our young, independent, island state. Fortunately for us, we managed, with the help of all our political leaders, to diversify the source of incoming tourists, and today your nationals, albeit always welcome, represent a third of all arrivals.

As for money being spent, may I ask you to note that my co-nationals spent a lot of money over at your country enjoying the good there is over there; and keeping up friendships developed before and during the turbulent times you mention. However, we do not feel the need to brag about it.

I am sure it was not your intention, but without wanting to, you have given Mr Mintoff the best accolade he could possibly get. Your last sentence was the raison d'etre for all the enormously successful Mintoffian efforts to wrestle the Maltese economy out of the abyss you outline in your last sentence. Moreover, you may note that today we are your equal partners in the EU.

Toni Borg

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:50

Dream on Mister!

We showed to the entire world that even though we are small country we are able to be positive and compete with the best countries around the globe ALL alone with our own government and hard working citizens. We continue to work hard so that visitors like you will be amazed by our beautiful country and come over and over again. You mentioned the 70s riots... ok fine but don't forget the 2011 riots you had in London and the everyday protests in the streets.

We always wish you a nice stay in Malta.
Rgds

F Williams

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:53

Mr Saunders,

You seem you are still living in the glory days of the British empire. Your writings are further proof that Mintoff was right to kick you out of Malta. For centuries we Maltese served our foreign masters. I come from a family which loves almost everything that is British, my great grand father died during the first world war serving you brits, his son lost use of one of his ears serving you brits during he second world war. Even my father proudly served in the navy but he was happy to give up his good pension and supported the idea of a Military Free MALTA. You mentioned that Mintoff made it difficult for the British...Yes so what? You were in our country after all! Your post war government had the cheek not to allocate part of the marshall aid to the courageous fortress Island and instead threatened to close the dockyards...What an appreciation for our fore-fathers` effort in the war eh? Because for you Malta was just the Sunny Fortress Island to be used as you pleased! A nice retirement place, a good place to get drunk and sha..ing down the gut! Thanks for your comments Mr. Saunders! MALTA FIRST & FOREMOST! Little MALTA kicked out the GREAT BRITISH EMPIRE!

F Williams

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:55

"all i can say is that without us bringing in the cash Malta will sink."....You still think we are just an aircraft carrier?

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:00

@Lesley Darmanin. It's mythology eh!!?? Well, why don't you just look at the facts and see what really happened? Mintoff managed to get a deal with the British and Nato, which meant Lm102 million for seven years as rent, and with limited areas! Not as it was before the Defence Treaty of 1972. With the Defence Treaty of 1964, the British had under their rule 75% of the island. Yes, Mintoff kicked the British services out and yes Malta thrived after that, but not with the British help! And of course, the British tried their best to discourage the Maltese from letting go of the British. But Mintoff was always there, and managed to lead our country from a fortress economy to one based on work and tourism. As for Labour's present position, times change and the PL changed with them.

M Grima

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:00

Rest assured Mr. Sauders that Mr. Mintoff would not have welcomed your mourning. After fighting your war you accuse us that without your holiday money Malta would sink. Are you serious Rich or are you just trying to be super funny?

Victor Scicluna

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:03

I am not a Mintoff sympathiser myself but I won't let a foreigner abuse me, my country or any other Maltese. Mintoff has done good and bad but it is not for you to abuse especial when you are British and in the way you did it.
We Maltese have no grudges against any nationality we love foreigners especially British as you well know. Even back in those days we respected and love your country and Queens and Kings even though we were treated as second class citizens. We were abused by your country many times but this is not the story of only our country your country abused many under it's rule and still does. Many countries were left in economical ruins when the British left but thanks to Mintoff ours wasn't.
If you come to this country so that you can throw money at us to abuse us in this way please stop coming you aren't welcome here we don't need your charity nor your attitude. So many other beautiful Mediterranean countries to go and abuse but we do not need you

M Grima

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:24

Wow, please don't stop coming to Malta Mr. Saunders or else the Maltese will starve to death. You have the cheek to talk in such a manner after we fought your war at the expense of many Maltese deaths and the destruction after all the bombing we got. I have many British friends who have the opposite opinion of what you are stating. Do us a favour and stay home where you rightly belong.

Ross Stephen

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:28

Being half Brit and half welsh can I just say all your comments are offensive, Mintoff is dead he deserves respect in death and I am no labour support. 2ndly Malta would not sink with out British tourist - they would feel a small pinch may be. 3rdly it was a world war to which Malta was involved as the Italians wanted to rule it and you should be ashamed mocking the dead by saying it was uk war, the commonwealth as a whole gave their life's so people like you could knock em and have your say. Grow up, politics bring out the worst in people

Alexandra MalliaBorg

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:44

Well said Mr.Grima our sentiments exactly

Victor Scicluna

Aug 23rd 2012, 19:59

Mr. Ross Stephen the war might have come to Malta without British presence although Malta wouldn't have been that important for the Axis if there weren't any British forces on the island, as with Sicily the Axis could have controlled the Mediterranean and North Africa. I even think that we might have fought the British on the Italian side if it weren't under British rule in those days but thanks to God that did not happen. It was mainly thanks to Malta and the sacrifice we had to endure that helped the turning point in North Africa and with the end of the war there the second European front could start in Italy. So yes it was your war and after the devastation left you refused to aid us with the money that was rightfully ours with the Marshall Plan.
From the BBC website:
Hitler showed Malta no mercy and it has been estimated that the island was one of the most intensely bombed areas in the entire war - proportionately more bombs fell on Malta than did on the city of Coventry.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/ff4_siege_malta.shtml

Pat Hobson

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:18

@Victor Scicluna. Churchill was ready to hand us over to Mussolini to avert the war with Italy. But something went wrong, and we were kept under the British!

Nick Carter

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:43

I agree with Lesley Darmanin The British were not kicked out but left. From the independence onwards they ran down their forces and in fact wanted to run them down even more than the Government up to 1971 wanted. Why did this government want them to stay - to provide money and revenue so that the Island could - rightfully in my BRITISH opinion - stand on its own two feet without the need for British support. Both the British and Maltese knew that eventually the British base would be closed. Mintoff managed to extract more money while they were here. Remember he signed a deal for 7 years and then spent all his time being aggressive towards those who were paying the money. Hypocritical - maybe but then he was a great politician and hypocracy is a vital requirement for that!

C. Bezzina

Aug 23rd 2012, 21:56

Mr Saunders,

My father was in the British Service for a very long time, i can say there was time when he was very happy but to be promoted to very higher ranks he had to leave the country otherwise if you remain in Malta you had no chance to be promoted. But in Malta even Maltese people were abused by some British Inspectors in the service! Also let me remind you that Malta did not sink under Winston Church and will never do!

Frank Zahra

Aug 23rd 2012, 22:04

Mr. Saunders,

You seriously think that we Maltese, depend on you British people???? How wrong you are. If you have a look at our statistics, you would note that tourism in Malta is diversifying in a way that now we are welcoming tourists from all over the world, please note.

Please note as well that it is thanks to Mintoff that Malta opened itself to tourism and with its expansion Malta has managed to make sure that ones you were kicked out of Malta, chefs working with your army could find a job in new built hotels and so on and so forth.

You British and other close people close to you way back that time thought that once you were out of the island we should end up in poverty. Well as you can see we are still here and better than before. So better that you still some to us as you say.

By the way, if by any chance you decide not to come to Malta any more , you and the other ex-servicemen, we Maltese shall not lose any sleep, be assured.

Ian Ghirlando

Aug 23rd 2012, 22:35

Mr Saunders, your comments are uncalled for. You do not make them in the name of the British people. For the first time in years of reading the Times of Malta, I was compelled to write a riposte to your words. As someone who is half Scottish and half Maltese (origin), I feel that your comments are divisive and insulting to your holiday hosts. As visitors to the island it is not our place to make political comments, especially in an article about the death of a Prime Minister. Most Maltese and most British people have a warm and historical friendship. You can see the upset you have caused. Fortunately, I don't think you will spoil it for the rest of us.

V. DeBono

Aug 23rd 2012, 23:11

Thank you Mr. Saunders .... I'm now even more proud to be Maltese... I can't stop reading the beautiful replies you got... Some good Maltese patriotism I had been missing for a while... I need not add anything... Well said to all ( not you Mr.Saunders.. If you wouldn't mind )

John Benner

Aug 23rd 2012, 23:13

I have an English father and a Maltese mother , three years ago I applied for a Maltese passport , now I hold two passports for the two greatest countries in Europe and I am very proud of that .Nine years ago while on holiday in Malta a relation of mine took me to the Labour party headquarters while there I met Mr Mintoff and for about ten minutes we talked about Malta and the UK , when I asked him do you hate the British he told me his argument was always with the politicians , many of the institutions in Malta are based on those in the UK he said , no I don't hate the British . So this weekend is a time to give respect to a man who loved his country , who had a love hate relationship with the British , a relationship that both sides agree today things were done wrong , Malta stands strong within the EU ,and no matter how much we may disagree about the past the strongest ties of the Maltese people still lie with the UK and long may that be .

Mary Borg

Aug 23rd 2012, 23:24

How preposetrous of you to even think that we actually need your money to sustain our economy! As if yours if blooming into a superpower. Such arrogant behaviour is highly reminiscient of imperialist attitude. Of course, you, like many other Maltese blinded by their political blue spectacles, cannot see the whole picture. Gaining independence on paper is no independence at all. Having the British still holding legislative and authoritative power on the land telling us what to do in our country and snatching the best parts of our land turning them into no-go areas for Maltese while stating that our land is independent is sheer baffling mockery. I am sure had you been in our position, you would have expected the removal of such powers. Dom Mintoff had the guts and gonads to act on it without any shedding of blood unlike other countries under British rule that had to fight back for their freedom. As much as I love England, I can assure you that I am not passing any sleepless nights for you having left our country either.

Shaun Anthony Camilleri

Aug 24th 2012, 05:14

It's people like you that give some people a bad name. The Maltese did not kick the British out they just exchanged management. The Maltese in fact love the Queen as can be attested by the welcome she received when she visited. The British troops could have stayed if they were willing to pay the rent requested. The Maltese did not kick out the British but changed the décor as mentioned. I am British Maltese and when I was at school I was pelted with eggs in the street in Rochdale for being a little darker than the rest as well as called a Paki. No one forces you to come to Malta and no one will notice if you do not come either. I am sure you are one of those egg pelter types anyway. Do not think you are doing the Maltese a favour by coming here.

JJ Agius

Aug 24th 2012, 09:03

Sorry!Look what the Brits did to South Africa!I was in cape town & went to Robin Island(Mandelas Prison) Tour & places etc. I still cannot beleive how those people were treated as bad & if not more than the Jews under Hitler! Thank God in Malta they found Mintoff. No wonder Lord Carrington(Minister of Defence than) told me that Mintoff was one of the best P.M. at that time.Still you are a scotman ashamed to say you are English! If Mintoff was Scottish than;you could be happy saying Scottish people rule themselves as Maltese can say.I still respect the British but Malta first & foremost as Mintoff taught us. Regards you spend money in Malta so we Maltese spend a lot of money in the UK. What ever you say Mintoff was a big part of the Maltese History not like you & me .
J.J

m borg

Aug 24th 2012, 10:26

Without you we did a lot better at least it keeps our country away from such buggers asking for compensations to get another free holiday ;) At least we have no riots and disturbed teenage stabbers in the streets. Enjoy your Puki land.

Mr J. Bonnici

Aug 23rd 2012, 22:07

'fairly elected by the system.'
U ddahhaqqniex Joe.
Mela nsejt kif Mintoff biddel id-distretti biex jisraq l-elezzjoni tal-1981? U seraqha kien, illum anke Joseph Muscat ammetta. 5 snin u tlett xhur ta' mizerja.Taqta' 18 il-xahar il-poplu ma avdax aktar il-Labour u ma nehohiex bi kbira jekk l-elezzjoni li gejja jerga' jitlifha ghax certi kummenti li qed naqraw qed jergghu iqajmu memorji koroh li ma nistghu ninsewhom qatt.

Victor Laiviera

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:28

The usual exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies you have bee peddling for decades.

The Maltese people are giving you a clear signal that they have seen through and will; not believe you any more.

You can only fool the people for so long.

Eddie Vella

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:34

Lesley you should be ashamed of yourself let Mintoff rest in peace, And these people are saying goodbye to a giant who stopped poverty, and intoduced social welfare,If you happens to go to a bank with children allowance,a minimum wage, pension,etc you owe it to Mintoff. Or you want to be still ruled by forign people sucking our blood

David Bezzina

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:38

OH yes,what a terrible man.
Reading your comment,one would think that Adolf HItler or Idi Amin was ruling the country in the 80's.
In the 60's,we still had beggars on the streets,no money in the till and rampant poverty and stupidity.
Who gave Malta its welfare state,its large corporations and removed poverty from the island ?
And you say that he wreaked havoc.....with all his defects he left Malta with a 450,000,000 Maltese Liri in Maltese coffers.
Look at Malta today....all corporations sinking with debt and a national debt of 5 Billion Euros.Who wreaked havoc ?
One thing is for sure......that your one-sided and brain-washed way of thinking has not changed from back then.
Labour has changed and is your sheer arrogance of thinking that only the blue part of Malta is fit to govern.
Mintoff eradicated poverty.He had made some mistakes but who doesn't.He was only human.

M Grima

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:40

If you had one grain of respect for the dead you would just shut up Mr. Darmanin. If you want to see what a great man Mintoff was, switch on Super One TV ans see for yourself what Mintoff meant to the thousands who in the sweltering heat are paying their last tributes to the architect of modern Malta.

ALBERT FENECH

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:46

The solution lies in your own hands. There is a big world out there - Australia, the United States, Africa, Asia and even the Galapagos Islands. I fervently urge you to choose and go to one of these localities and this country will be well rid of you and people of your ilk. Afore you go I would just like to point out I disagree with you - the people of this country have fully learnt their lesson - how mistaken sectors of its population were and are in not having recognised the achievements of this great man.

ALBERT FENECH

M Grima

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:53

Remember Mr. Darmanin that the poison which you are trying to give us may also poison you in the process. Just go to Valletta this Saturday and see for yourself what the man meant to the Maltese.

B Agius

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:58

You and your views are a minority. Albeit one to be respected. So please show respect for others who do not share your views.

David Buttigieg

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:24

"You and your views are a minority."
Well, seeing that apart from a mere 22 month blip, the last time labour and definitely Mintoff won a majority was 36 long years ago, don't be too sure what a minority it is!

G Schembri

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:22

Mr Darmanin you have repeated all these lies over and over again, enlarging them with every repetition. So much so that you have started to believe them. What lives did Mintoff destroy? Can you please mention just one life that he really destroyed. The way the international media has described Mintoff after his death shows that not only did he not make a mockery of Malta, but he did us proud.
If anyone bought anyone's vote it was a those who won the last general election, after extending the time where there were large queues at closing time.
Mintoff never trampled on our rights, Mintoff never told the unions he did not have money to give workers a raise and then behind everyones back give himself and his regime a weekly raise of 600 euro.

Mary Borg

Aug 23rd 2012, 23:39

@ David Buttigieg: you are assuming that all PN supporters share your view. surprise, surprise, they don't. there were many nationalists on the streets today as well just as there were many labourites when Tabone died too because many don't fail to see the good in people too.

S. Calleja

Aug 24th 2012, 05:30

@ G. Schembri. How can you say that? I feel really upset reading "What lives did Mintoff destroy?". My wife's family really had it hard because her father was a teacher (and not a manual labourer). They could barely make ends meet during those days because of wage freezes. Mintoff did a lot for the working class, but brushed aside the professionals and educated, throwing them into misery like my wife's family back then. What's more, they even got shot at while at home one evening during the teachers' strike. Luckily the bullet did not hit anyone, but when my father-in-law reported it, the inspector asked him "was that because you striked, or because you did not?". This probably happened because he slipped a word against the government at work. Not to mention all the vacated properties that were stolen from families to give them through his housing program. Dak sew! You give things for free, and cause others to pay for it. Very fair indeed! Mintoff was not a government for all of Malta. He was a government for the working class. They admit it even themselves. That's not right. If you want to improve a country, you don't dismantle one section to build the other.

H Stafrace

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:15

Thank what?

H Stafrace

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:16

lets stop at Go. Shall we?

Peter Paul Borg

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:06

"Hear, hear".

A Vella

Aug 23rd 2012, 17:22

Sir even your name is a good indication of how much you're stuck in the past, no one in the developed world uses post nominal letters anymore.

Neil Ellis

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:13

I certainly agree with that , whatever his policies and beliefs he was still a human . As an Englishman who visits and loves Malta and has many friends on your lovely island i wish him to rest in peace and for everyone else to live in it.

Steve Pace

Aug 24th 2012, 06:58

In that respect i totally agree with you as i commented elsewhere..

H Stafrace

Aug 23rd 2012, 16:19

god bless what ?????

Nadia Camilleri

Aug 23rd 2012, 18:16

@ H Stafrace

Free education for everyone not only the rich
Free healthcare for everyone not only the rich
Free and decent houses for everyone not only the rich
Pensions, childrens' allowances and other social benefits for everyone not only the rich
Removal of slumps and beggars from our streets
Decent wages for those that wanted to work
Right of vote for women
He gave us pride and dignity, made us believe that even if we are such a tiny rock, we can still be called a nation that deserved respect even from the greatest of the super powers
You want more?
You only need to take a good look around you ... all you see was Mintoff's creation.

Yes God Bless Mintoff and his legacy ... Malta l-ewwel u qabel kollox ... for ever Amen.

R. Azzopardi

Aug 23rd 2012, 20:55

@Nadia Camilleri,

All that you have is true but do you know where the problem lay? These benefits (housing especially) were funding by ruthlessly seizing assets of the rich and not-so-rich. Help the poor by all means but not at the expense of fellow citizens who worked their butts off to purchase what they own. My parents had to get married 2 years before they were supposed to because their house was requisitioned. They were ordinary working folk who made huge sacrifices to buy a property. They were still very young so they left it vacant for a year and it was requisitioned. I'm going to be very blunt here. I will defend what is rightfully mine until my dying breath. I am not a charitable institution.

Mary Borg

Aug 23rd 2012, 23:41

don't waste your breath with this stafrace. he's just trolling!

S. Calleja

Aug 24th 2012, 05:52

@ Nadia. Trouble is, nothing is actually free and somebody had to pay for all that. And it wasn't the rich. It was the middle class. Mintoff gave a lot to the poor, but he achieved that by destroying the lives and dreams of many decent chaps whose only mistake in life was to be born in a middle class, educated family. I agree that poverty need to be eradicated, but I, like many others, believe that there were other means this could have been achieved, namely, through economic progress, like what happened in the rest of the developed world, and everybody would have won. Because of this, I don't think Mintoff was very imaginative, because he took the easy way out to solve things - destroy one part of Malta to fix the other, by force and violence. That is of course why he is such a divisive figure, and why people have such diametrically opposing views about him.

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