Thousands follow six-hour Dom Mintoff cortège
"In his life the bells were rung so that he could not be heard, and in his death, we shout Mintoff, Mintoff inside the church" - GWU Deputy General Secretary
The Labour Party and the people of Cottonera this afternoon bid a poignant farewell to former Prime Minister Dom Mintoff with a cortège which lasted six hours.
Mr Mintoff died on Monday, aged 96. He led the Labour Party for 35 years and stepped down as prime minister in 1984 after having held the helm since 1971. He was also prime minister between 1955 and 1958.
Dom Mintoff.The cortège went through some of the localities which shaped Mr Mintoff, and other places which are a symbol of his political activities.
The focus of the cortège was on Cottonera - the district which returned Mr Mintoff to parliament for a record 50 years.
Among the stops were Mr Mintoff's residence in Tarxien, his home-town Cospicua and the Freedom Monument in Vittoriosa.
The cortège also went past two former Labour headquarters - the Freedom Press and the Macina, before stopping at current headquarters in Hamrun and then proceeding to the final destination, the Palace in Valletta where Mr Mintoff will lie in state tomorrow and for a few hours on Saturday morning before the state funeral.
Large crowds applauded wherever the cortège went but no political flags were displayed.
THE CORTEGE
9.10 p.m. The cortege arrives in Palace Square followed by Mr Mintoff's relatives and a crowd shouting Mintoff Mintoff. Among them is Joe Camilleri, Mr Mintoff's long serving secretary. A fanfare is played by trumpters of the King's Own Band as the coffin is carried into the Palace and the doors are closed.
8.20 p.m. The cortège drives into Valletta and slowly down Republic Street to the Palace Square - the place where Dom Mintoff celebrated the attainment of the Republic status on December 13, 1974. President George Abela awaits the arrival. The cortège is escorted by Valletta's two bands. People line the street behind police barriers.

8 p.m. The coffin is lowered in front of the Labour Party headquarters. Joseph Muscat places a bouquet of 35 white roses, representing the 35 years of Mintoff's leadership of the party. He stands at the head of the coffin as soprano Claire Caruana sings an aria from the rock opera Gensna.
Yana Bland Mintoff then takes the flowers and hands Dr Muscat a Mintoff commemorative medal, which he shows to the applauding crowd.
The National Anthem is then sung by the soprano.
7.56 p.m. The band plays the International, the socialist anthem and a source of great controversy in the Labour-Church battles of the 1960s. The crowd cotninues to applaud. Some cry, many shout Mintoff.
The cortège arrives in High Street, Hamrun.7.40 p.m. The cortège arrives in High Street, Hamrun. Just over two years ago the same street witnessed the funeral of Guido de Marco, a Mintoff adversary and friend.
Hundreds of people are lining both sides of the street leading to Labour headquarters. The coffin is taken out of the hearse as Chopin's Funeral March is played by Hamrun's three bands. Labour leader Joseph Muscat and the party leadership are standing outside party headquarters under a huge poster showing a young Dom Mintoff studying post-war reconstruction plans. Also present are MPs and former Labour ministers. Alfred Sant is not among them.
7.40 p.m. The cortège arrives in Hamrun. Hundreds of people are lining both sides of the street leading to Labour headquarters. The coffin is taken out of the hearse as the Funeral March is played by Hamrun's three bands. Labour leader Joseph Muscat and the party leadership are standing outside party headquarters.
7.10 p.m. The cortège stops briefly opposite the Super One complex in Marsa. The staff led by chairman Jason Micallef throw flowers at the hearse. On the way to Marsa the cortège drove past former Labour Health Minister Vincent Moran, who stood outside his villa in Corradino.
Dom Mintoff's coffin is carried inside Cospicua Collegiate Church.
The cortège heads for Cospicua parish church. Picture: Kurt Sansone.6.47 p.m. The prayer service ends with the singing of the Ave Maria, as is typical in Cospicua. The band takes over as the coffin is carried out amid applause and cheering. A boy carries the Maltese flag, but no political flags have been on show. The coffin is being carried by soldiers in plain clothes circled by the police. Mintoff's final departure from his home-town is a poignant moment for the residents. As minister, Mintoff was also responsible for the post-war reconstruction of the harbour towns.
The next destination will be Marsa, where, as in the other localities, it will be greeted by the Mayor and the locality's bands.
6.35 p.m. The cortège, headed by Archpriest Fr Joe Mifsud and Fr Dionysius Mintoff OFM slowly arrives in front of the packed Collegiate Church of the Immaculate Conception in Cospicua. The bells toll a sombre tone as people applaud. Shouting of Mintoff, Mintoff, inside the church drowns out a choir as the coffin is placed in front of the altar. Prayers are said. Michael Parnis, GWU deputy general secretary, sums up the irony on facebook, saying: In his life the bells were rung so that he could not be heard and in his death, we shout Mintoff, Mintoff inside the church. He was referring to an episode in the 1960s when the bells of a church in Victoria, Gozo, were rung to disrupt a Labour mass meeting.
Mr Mintoff's coffin is draped with the flag of St George's Band in his hometown, Cospicua.6.05 p.m. The coffin is taken out of the hearse and carried past St George's Band Club, which Mr Mintoff headed for decades. The coffin is draped with the band's flag.The band plays funeral marches as people throw flowers and struggle for vantage points.
Yana Mintoff hugs a boy outside Cospicua church.5.55 p.m. Right on cue, the cortège arrives in Cospicua. Many people have been waiting for over an hour. Two faint and are given first aid. There is shouting of Mintoff, Mintoff as the hearse is driven opposite the Labour Party Club.
5.35 p.m. Cortège leaves Vittoriosa through the recently built gate at the top of Maingate Street as the band plays its last salute. It will head for Kalkara and then Cospicua, Mr Mintoff's home crowd, where a very large crowd is waiting. The Cottonera district was Mintoff's stronghold and returned him to parliament for 50 years.
5.10 p.m. The cortège arrives in Victory Square, Vittoriosa, to a fanfare by trumpeters of Prince of Wales Own Band and shouting of Viva s-Salvatur ta' Malta. The band accompanies the cortège along the streets of the ancient city. The streets are decorated for the feast of St Dominic this weekend, but the Saturday morning march has been cancelled as a sign of respect for Mr Mintoff.
Mary Spiteri sings on the Freedom Monument.4.48 p.m. Applause rings out as the hearse, covered in flowers, is driven down the hill and arrives at the Freedom Monument in Vittoriosa. Mary Spiteri wipes tears as she stands at the foot of the monument, opposite the hearse, and sings Tema '79 from the rock opera Gensna, interrupted by applause. A particularly emotional moment for those present. Some people sing with Mary Spiteri. The crowd bursts into chanting of Mintoff, Mintoff. Somebody shouts Grazzi Mintoff in a very loud voice. Members of the Mintoff family including his daughters join the crowd.
4.40 p.m. The cortège drives past the Macina, the Labour Party's former headquarters. Large crowds line the road into Senglea, a bulwark of Labour support.
4.35 p.m. After being driven through Tarxien Square, the cortège drives twice around Paola square amid constant applause by hundreds of people. Flowers are thrown on the hearse.
Flowers are thrown at the hearse.4.15 p.m. Slightly behind schedule, the coffin is carried out of the Mintoff residence in Tarxien and the hearse is driven slowly towards Tarxien Square. People line both sides of the road. Some struggle to touch the hearse as applause continues.
The cortège arrives at Tarxien.3.45 p.m. The cortège arrives outside the former prime minister's residence in Tarxien where a crowd of some 200 applauds as the hearse is driven slowly along the road in front of the house, where Mr Mintoff passed away last Monday aged 96.
Among those who arrived early outside Mr Mintoff's Tarxien residence this afternoon was Wistin Abela, who served throughout the Mintoff government years as parliamentary secretary and then minister, responsible, among others, for Air Malta and later for finance.
Many people take photos with their mobile phones and shout Viva l-Perit. Some have tears in their eyes.
Leaving the Tarxien residence for the last time. Picture Darrin Zammit Lupi.The coffin is carried into the house amid constant applause. Flowers which had been placed outside the gate are placed on the coffin.
The members of the Mintoff family pay their tribute at the residence before the coffin is taken to Tarxien Square and then on to Cottonera.
Some of those in the crowd tell timesofmalta that they had prayed that this day would not come. They describe Mr Mintoff as Missier Malta Hielsa and point to social services as one of his main achievements.
3.15 p.m . The hearse drives out from Mater Dei Hospital shortly before 3.30 p.m. escorted by police motorcyclists.
The Dom MIntoff cortege in Vittoriosa. Picture: Luke Scicluna
Supporters applaude and weep in Vittoriosa.
The crowd in Cospicua.
Picture: Mark Zammit Cordina.
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Charles.C. Brown
Aug 26th 2012, 12:04
Me too i found all Times of Malta" videos of the send off clear and best by far , its not just the videos but all news in the Time is more detailed and presentable. looks to me like they have the best journalists and cameramen in the country. Well done all.
Bill Khan
Aug 26th 2012, 00:47
Just like to thank Times of Malta for the ellaborate pictures and videos of the final send off of Dom Mintoff.
I would like to have been there too to pay my respect to the great man. He was a man of vision. Such people become contraversial simply because not all can fully comprehend their visionary path. For malta he strived for independence and dignity at a time of all kinds of external threats. Rest in peace Dom Mintoff.
Charles.C. Brown
Aug 24th 2012, 20:01
@ John Doneo, John if you and your friends joined the malta port division or the maltese navy as many used to call it in 1957 and all of you qulified for a full 22 year pension that means that you and your friends left the Navy in 1979 seven years after Mintoff and the MOD agreed on a new pay deal for the maltese servicemen of all three sevices. Yes its true that the maltese never had it so good as you put it ,but with the maltese being cooks and stewards, the lowest categories in the navy offered to them, we all know why they did had it so good. no need to go into detail there! as for being treated the same as the british servicemen that is a lot of rubbish ,the british they wouldnt even sit next to a maltese rating . And can you explain why a rating in the MPD never rose above the rank of CPO? Wasnt that discremination?
Joe Xuereb
Aug 24th 2012, 13:59
@ M Darmanin (Today, 12:30). My sentiments exactly (about Malta titla' fuq saqajha bil-prodott u xogħol għall-Maltin). Mintoff was merely using the socialist, Communist if you like, model. So?! Communism then as now was a dirty word (as a fiveyear old attending catechism sessions being told that, under duress to convert to Communism, I was to choose martyrdom. I WAS FRIGGIN' FIVE YEARS OLD! Hey mister! Give me communism/socialism any time).
Whether Mintoff like the British or not is a discussion worthy only of a shallow debate round the kitchen table. Mintoff merely wanted what was due to Malta for all the indignities suffered over the years (like talk of ceding Malta to Mussolini to appease the spineless, Hitler lackey fascist aided and abetted by the Vatican who thought, 'they're only Jews!). Interestingly, he married an Englishwoman.
Mintoff seeing eye-to-eye with Ceausescu and Gaddafi at the time, the first for the socialist model, and the second for monetary profit (but the Man stood up to the despot over the digging for oil in Maltese waters debacle). To be fair to the man, how was he supposed to see into the future? If I have one gripe against Mintoff it is that, true to his profession, and a' la Ceausescu, he altered village cores to afford the villagers a breath of fresh air, an air of possibly inappropriate pseudo sophistication. This was the megalomaniac in him but I can imagine worse. Like, for instance, building a roofless theatre and at what a cost?! twice over because the first project some 25 years ago came to nothing but still cost an arm and a leg. Megalomania is often excusable - since when have the spineless achieved anything - and at other times, a mania for its own sake to prop up the non-achieving, is not.
Mintoff, and his indelible aura, passed this way and that is good enough for him to be remembered by those who shared his vision. Any true patriot (as opposed to dangerous nationalism), having shed their agenda-laden bigotry, can see this. All one has to do is embrace working-class values as opposed to the val the hollow priviled. It's a biggish step, but necessary. What have we to lose but our self-serving, false dignities?
Joe Xuereb
Aug 24th 2012, 13:18
@ Rich Brad saunders (Yesterday, 17:42). Mr. Saunders, coming from you, that's rick(pun intended). That's the funny bit, brushed and dusted. Now for the serious stuff.
I grew up at a time with a British rating, in his married quarters in Malta, could afford a Maltese servant. Totally duped by colonialism, the Maltese looked up at the foreigner especially if they had blue eyes, blond hair, and freckles. Which explains your having had many friends in Malta as a schoolboy. So no surprises there!
The British keep coming to their second home where they experience no language problem. Many of them still try to lord it over us and some Maltese still can't get it. Colonialism does that to the mind - it sticks around like the smell of a putrid kipper. British tourists can go elsewhere of course but they'll have to learn foreign languages - now there's a hurdle! - or stick to their ghetto. Often clutches or retirees who are dying (literally) to get back home but cannot. They'd assumed 'Spain' was a permanent move. Il-bniedem jipproponi w Alla jiddisponi (man proposes and god disposes). Oh dear!
Malta's never lorded it over anyone so it will never stand to lose an Empire. In this sense it will never sink. As for Dom Mintoff's bid for integration with Britain, with Malta becoming an English shire across the seas - not unlike Northern Ireland and we know the sorry state that is in in spite of appeasing handshakes by the queen to rehabilitate her cousin's 'murderer' (a Mr. McGuiness something or other) - which thank goodness never happened because look at the 'once and empire' now. Read the British press and week. Go to any of a number of ghettos in London and Bradford, etc., and weep. Read about corrupt banking systems that are untouchable because the demise of such august and powerful institutions would spell the beginning of the end a long time coming(they get fined a few million but otherwise keep afloat. Corruption begets corruption and such matters surfacing have become daily news items these last few years. Cases go to Court and drag on and on (telephone hacking) and finally, the guilty get rehabilitated elsewhere. The powerful always get rehbailitated because the are the backbone of British institutions, even if corrupt ones. Without them, the System would flounder. Or sink, as Mr. Saunders would say). And you, Mr. Saunders, talk about sinking?! And any fool who responded to your insensitive, misinformed, biased little piece, saying that an integrated Malta would have joined the EU in 1973 - and at a price tag that would have been the total loss of any autonomy. Ill advised in any case for, as anyone knows, the UK does not sit comfortably in the EU setup. How could it with those pain in the whotsit, France and Germany especially? Any day soon a referendum will come about to Britain to opt out of the humiliation. Britain looks, and always has done, towards the USA for support (as we cynics say, the USA is flatulent and Britain basks in the smell). Reading the British press, one learns that the country is now bowing East, towards Qatar (the funding of the Shard, the river-crossing cable-car and dozens of other projects, all with Qatari oil-money). AND WITH STRINGS ATTACHED in case you don't bother with the British Press Mr. Saunders. Now Mr. Saunders, we can start talking about sinking, or just about floating, just! In spite of a successful Olympic Games (with millions spent on necessary security measures) and a wonderful Jubilee celebrations. All rather jingoistic of course. And the delusional still think of empire as if it hadn't a single dent in it. Surprise! surprise!
And last but most important of all Mr. Saunders, there might come a time when you would come grovelling and give anything to be Maltese.
M Darmanin
Aug 24th 2012, 12:30
@ Mark Cassar .... you remember all these ...... and they way you remember them is like it was a one sided thing ..... I am not in anyway justifying any wrong doings but if you want to call a spade a spade with your so called respect you have for Mintoff do so in an orderly and reasoned manner whilst putting yourself in the context of that time and therefore to answer to your issues above ....:
3rd world country ???? Malta - Infrastructurally Malta was still being built and during his 'regime' look at how many schools were built and improvement was being introduced gradually .... don't forget the british only took care of their areas not where the maltese were living. I am sure you realise that even roads and cars were not the same as it is today so having bypasses when you have a couple of thousand cars on the island for sure was not needed. But then again do you remember the number of houses that were being built by the workers who previously could not afford to dream of looking at a house let alone owning it. I also remember Airmalta, SeaMalta, TeleMalta etc .... they are all gone now at least the Malta in them has gone since everything is privatised.
Don’t you remember the daily water and electricity cuts - water yes but electricity no ... I do remember them and I still suffer them today regularly. even though I pay so much more now on water and electricity bills.
Don’t you remember the decadent telephone system we had? Yes I do remember and I also remember that you had to know someone to get a telephone at home ...... see I am not justifying anything.
You couldn't buy what you wanted? - Mintoff's perspective was introducing work for the Maltese and building Industrial Estates and getting the maltese to produce their own thing was the order of the day. At that time it was the best choice for the country since the aim was to get it on its own feet. We had everything we just werent spoilt for the choice we have today and to which nowadays the problem has reverted .... we have the choice but not all can afford it. That is why Lidl is flocked daily and you dont have a choice there its just Lidl's products .... same as bulk buying my dear.
You mention rights ...... I do remember all you said and YES it was wrong, however I dont remember anyone being beaten up for walking in the streets with the In-....Taghna and I live in a highly labourite village. The other rights which I also remember are voting rights for women, free education rights etc.
I also remember the burning down of not of all the PN clubs in Malta but some of them and YES IT WAS WRONG. The burning down of “The Times”? Eddie Fenech Adami's house yes and I also remember garage pits filled with fire arms, I also remember Karin Grech and I also remember Raymond Caruana and yes times were not nice at all but I also remember being promised justice by EFA since he knew who committed the crimes and which justice never came. I also remember once you're dead being thrown in the dumps and dont tell me it was the church not the PN .... If you dont condone you are an accomplice and that is what the PN was.
You have the nerve to mention public holidays ..... have you forgotten that only in recent years PN deducted the public holidays that fall on the weekend.
The friendships Mintoff had with Communist leaders only served for Mintoff to gain all he could financially for Malta ..... Because I remember that when communism fell, the countries had poverty all around them whereas in Malta under the 'Communist Mintoff' era poverty was removed and all the social benefits were introduced ... so for sure he wasn't copying they way of living.
Dont play funny when mentioning PC's and internet we all know that these where unheard of in the 80's unless you think that it is Mintoff's fault as well that technology was being introduced during those years.
See Mr Cassar I remember a lot of things which you dont seem to want to remember or else have been influenced / brainwashed to see the bad only. Coming from a working class family myslef, I can only praise the improvements in the workers' standards whilst condoning wrong doings from both parties.
Angelo Vassallo
Aug 24th 2012, 12:24
@ Joe Fenech
Li qallek joe xuereb m'ghandu x'jaqsam xejn fuq il-hoss tal-Baned.
Ma nahsibx li l-kumment tieghek fuq il-baned kien floku u f'waqtu meta tghid li l-baned li daqqew huma "amateurs bands". Dawn il-baned u l-bandisti huma kollha nies professjonisti.
Il-Korteo Funebri tal-bierah kien organizzat mill-Partit Laburista. Il-Funeral Statali ta' ghada ser ikun organizzat mill-Istat, u allura hemm iddoq il-Banda tal-Forzi Armati.
Dan kollu jissejjah PROTOKOL jekk ma tafx.
Joe Xuereb
Aug 24th 2012, 12:01
@ Joe Fenech(Today, 08:37). Mr. Fenech, if the AFM is only slightly better, why bother to use it. A shallow, and irrelevant(?) comment if ever there was one?! Music, wonderful as it is, is merely disturbance of the air-waves in case you didn't know.
Mintoff was unpopular in his time - and still - because he dared undermine the religious identity of the Maltese by challenging Church authorities. The Maltese religious identity persists even today. He also undermined that other great Maltese identifier, the middle-class. They too (very much part and parcel of the religious elite) would skin their mother alive in order to retain the image the have built around themselves. What I call the entrapment of the self and staying there in spite of a million indicators showing the fallacies. For these reasons, Mintoff was unpopular with many and will continue to be. Salvation and social status, if penniless, is what propels these self-deceiving Maltese.
@ Gerry Cowie (Today, 09:41). Mr. Cowie, this is not the time for daft flippancy.
@ William Caligari (Today, 09:27). Sur Caligari, fiż-żmien ma konniex nieklu ċikkulata ta' barra għaliex il-Kbir, TA' VERU SOĊJALIST LI KIEN, u biex jgħiln lil Malta tqum fuq saqajha, ried imexxi l-prodott Malti. Dak kollox!
@ Mark Cassar (Today, 07:59). Mr. Cassar, you seem to have a grudge against Socialism. It's not all bad, you know. In fact, it all damn good! And with regard to 'Malta' being part of a newspaper's title, I can imagine anything being described as Malta this and Malta that. A kind of desperate attempt to draw attention to oneself in case one is missed out. Mintoff's thought on this was the elimination of a crippling nationalism and the uplifting of patriotism. Neither is evident these days, not in some sections of the population. In fear of losing what they have built for themselves - vacuous and transparent - they stand to lose the very thing they've come to cherish, their bogus identity.
@ Brian Farrugia (Today, 06:39). Mr. Farrugia, one does not dabble in socialist ideologies without paying a price, and especially in a holier-than-thou country like Catholic Malta. One needs only mention the paranoia of the McCarthy era in the USA. These days both Capitalism and Socialism have come home to roost.
@ Charles Muscat (Today, 04:45). Mr. Muscat, as a socialist, Dom Mintoff knew very well that life was about searching for the truth and, by inference, justice. Deep but what else is there?!
Mintoff hu uman. Għaldaqstant dgħajjef bħal kull uman ieħor. Imma kellu d-dehen u l-kuraġġ li jistaqsi mistoqsijiet li l-uman medju jibża' minnhom għax jibża mir-risposta. Dal kollu! Dak li bl-Ingliż insejjħulu 'raġel tad-destin'. Sakemm ils-Soċjaliżmu jibqa' iseħħ, isem Mintoff jibqa' f'moħħ ġensu, l-akbar monument li jistħoqlu.
Angelo Vassallo
Aug 24th 2012, 12:00
@ EDDIE privitera
EDDIE ma tistax tichad xejn min dak li jiena ktibt.
Imma lil dak li llum fl-2012 u bir-ragun kollu, qeghdin taghmlulu dawn elogji shah, fl-1998 ghajjartuh TRADITUR. Min huma l-IPOKRITI EDDIE?.
Joe Xuereb
Aug 24th 2012, 11:53
@ Joe Fenech(Today, 08:37). Mr. Fenech, if the AFM is only slightly better, why bother to use it. A shallow, and irrelevant(?) comment if ever there was one?! Music, wonderful as it is, is merely disturbance of the air-waves in case you didn't know.
Mintoff was unpopular in his time - and still - because he dared undermine the religious identity of the Maltese by challenging Church authorities. The Maltese religious identity persists even today (the apologists for the Jesuits - JRS - with regards to the refugee problem). He also undermined that other great Maltese identifier, the middle-class. They too (very much part and parcel of the religious elite) would skin their mother alive in order to retain the image the have built around themselves. What I call the entrapment of the self and staying there in spite of a million indicators showing the fallacies. For these reasons, Mintoff was unpopular with many and will continue to be. Salvation and social status, if penniless, is what propels these self-deceiving Maltese.
@ Gerry Cowie (Today, 09:41). Mr. Cowie, this is not the time for daft flippancy.
@ William Caligari (Today, 09:27). Sur Caligari, fiż-żmien ma konniex nieklu ċikkulata ta' barra għaliex il-Kbir, TA' VERU SOĊJALIST LI KIEN, u biex jgħiln lil Malta tqum fuq saqajha, ried imexxi l-prodott Malti. Dak kollox!
@ Mark Cassar (Today, 07:59). Mr. Cassar, you seem to have a grudge against Socialism. It's not all bad, you know. In fact, it all damn good! And with regard to 'Malta' being part of a newspaper's title, I can imagine anything being described as Malta this and Malta that. A kind of desperate attempt to draw attention to oneself in case one is missed out. Mintoff's thought on this was the elimination of a crippling nationalism and the uplifting of patriotism. Neither is evident these days, not in some sections of the population. In fear of losing what they have built for themselves - vacuous and transparent - they stand to lose the very thing they've come to cherish, their bogus identity.
@ Brian Farrugia (Today, 06:39). Mr. Farrugia, one does not dabble in socialist ideologies without paying a price, and especially in a holier-than-thou country like Catholic Malta. One needs only mention the paranoia of the McCarthy era in the USA. These days both Capitalism and Socialism have come home to roost.
@ Charles Muscat (Today, 04:45). Mr. Muscat, as a socialist, Dom Mintoff knew very well that life was about searching for the truth and, by inference, justice. Deep but what else is there?!
Joe Fenech
Aug 24th 2012, 15:02
Issa billi giet ic-cikkulata ta' barra - x'giet? Cikkulata Ingliza zokkor wahidha. Mur ghatiha li xi hadd jaf jiekol bhal xi Taljan jew Franciz!
Angelo Vassallo
Aug 24th 2012, 11:41
@ Joseph Mifsud
Verament ghandek l-immaginazzjoni tieghek fertili hafna jew qieghed tohlom imqajjem u bil-wiefqa!
Mr John Doneo
Aug 24th 2012, 10:57
@ Mr Brown
In 1957 ti I joined the Maltese Navy. We were stationed in St Angelo. We had one ship which was HMS Mediator (Tug Boat). All my friends including my brother served on British Navy ships as stewards and chefs. They were treated the same as a british service men, when they retired they even received a british pension. In The rest of the maltese navy was about 20, stoker mechanics and able seamen, these included CPO's and other ranks. We never had it so good. In 1958 I transferred to the british navy. From all my maltese friends that were on the same ships that I served, i never heard them complaining about wages or pensions.
Mr Mintoff was a good prime minister. He done a lot of good things for Malta, but he also done stupid things. ( We cannot be perfect all of ther time)
RIP MR Prime Minister.
G Buhagiar
Aug 24th 2012, 09:45
Inhossuna kburin li ahna Maltin, u ahna l-Bormlizi nhossuna iktar kburin ghax il-Perit Duminku Mintoff, kien Bormliz u kellu mhabba specjali ghall-Bormlizi. Kienet ix-xewqa tieghu li meta jmut jittiehed fil-knisja Kollegjata u Santwarju ta' Marija Immakulata Kuncizzjoni. Inghata tislima sabiha u kbira , lill-Perit Mintoff hekk kif it-tebut fegg riesaq lejn il-parrocca. Kien mument sabih hafna, li hadd minna mhu ha jinsa. Il-kant tal-innu lill-Madonna fl-ahhar tac-celebrazzjoni tal-bierah, sinonimu maghna l-Bormilizi u b'mod specjali mal-Perit Mintoff, meta fl-1955 zamm f'idejh l-Istellarju, li gie mqieghed madwar Ras tax-xbieha ghaziza tal-Madonna mill-Arcipriet tal-Vatikan ta' dak iz-zmien, il-Kardinal Tedeschini. Min hu Malti ghandu jhossu Grat lejn dan il-bniedem kbir li la kien hawn u lanqas ikun hawn. Grazzi Perit u strieh fis-Sliem!
Gerry Cowie
Aug 24th 2012, 09:41
May God have mercy on his immortal soul.
However calls for his sainthood are somewhat premature.
To be a saint there has to be enough evidence.
Let him rest in peace.
S Calleja hits the nail on the head with the very first comment below.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 24th 2012, 11:31
Gerry Copwie: Even the vast majority of Popes never made it to sainthood !
Angelo Vassallo
Aug 24th 2012, 09:32
@ Mr. Michael Parnis
"In his life the bells were rung so that he could not be heard, and in his death, we shout Mintoff, Mintoff inside the church"
And precisely that was the ONLY thing that SHOULD NOT have happened yesterday. Continuous clapping of hands in silence inside the church would have been much much more decent and appropriate. The Cospicua Church was rendered, for a while, a Labour Party Club.
May I just remind you that the bells which were rung so that he could not be heard during his meetings, were rung, besides others, by no one else than KMB, who eventually was imposed by Mr. Mintoff himself to be his successor as Leader of the Malta Labour Party.
In the 1960s, at the height of the dispute between the Maltese Church and the Malta Labour Party, Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici was an official of a number of lay organisations connected to the Church and supported the "diocesan junta" of Church organisations opposing Dom Mintoff and his Party.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 24th 2012, 11:33
Imma KMB induna bil-maniggi tal-Kurja u bidel ir-rotta meta ra li Mintoff RIED BISS L-INTERESS TA' PAJJIZNA U TAL-POPLU MALTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!
jason cassar
Aug 24th 2012, 09:31
ix xeni li rajna l bierah fit toroq zgur li qatt ma rajna bhalhom , Mintoff kien , ghadu u jibqa l akbar ragel fl istorja politika ta pajjizna .
RIP Dom Mintoff
William Caligari
Aug 24th 2012, 09:27
Grazzi perit;
inti ma tajtnix Mars........ imma tajtni Children Allowance
inti ma tajtnix Bounty... ..imma tajtni Pensjoni
inti ma tajtnix Kit Kat....... imma tajtni Bonus
Inti ma tajtnix Maltesers...imma tajtni Paga gusta
inti tajtna , djar fejn noqghodu, tajtna sahha b'xejn
tajtna skejjel b'xejn.
Bir-ragun nghidulek 'grazzi' ta' dak kollhu li ghamelt
ma gensnek.
Int perit ma tmut qatt!!
fred sammut
Aug 24th 2012, 11:07
Razzant li minn ghakkisna...... Inglizi u l Kleru ta dak iz zmien
Tajtni kotba pitazzi u halib lis skola bix nitaghallem
Bonus ta LM 58 meta l paga kienet Lm10 !!!
Lil missieri taghajtu leave u sick leave
Dritt lil Gays
Poliklinkki miftuha 24 siegha KULJUM!!!!
etc etc etc
Kellhom bzonn il politici kollha jkollhom nofs l energija li kellu dar ragel ghal pajjijzna.....
GRAZZI PERIT
Mark Cassar
Aug 24th 2012, 12:00
grazzi perit tal-bulk buying....u tat-tuffieh imrancat li kien ikolli nixtri biex niehu kwart perzut minghand tal-grocer.....
grazzi tat-transfers li l-ministri tieghek bellghulna kull darba li xi hadd semma lehnu kontrikom....
grazzi tal-mizerja ta' hajja skwallida li gaghaltna nghixu
it-tifkira ta' dawn m'hi ha tmut qatt!
Joseph Brincat
Aug 24th 2012, 09:23
Mark Cassar
Today, 07:59
With all respect to Mr.Mintoff, but you are all boasting about the social services, about the fact that he got rid of the British, that he did this and that…why don’t you remember about the glorious days the Labour regime gave Malta from 1971 to 1987? You boast that Mintoff left Malta’s coffers full of money…but have you ever considered why?
YES BECAUSE THE PN HAD NEVER BEEN CAPABLE TO DO SO
FOR TODAY WHATEVER THE PN HAD DONE IS ALL ARTIFICIAL
FOR WHATEVER YOU SEE IS ALL DEBIT ( 6 BILLION EUROS )
SO IN THEORY THEY DIDN'T DO NOTING FOR WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT >> MARK CASSAR !!!!!
Mark Cassar
Aug 24th 2012, 12:05
yes....and everything was done, as the italians say, a scapito della gente......Malta was left full of money but the people were living in distress.....having no ability to choose whatever they want to eat ( a basic daily NEED), having no choice but to buy only the things which the Perit allowed on the island....we had the coffers full of money but then, everything was outdated!
And by the way.. I prefer the way we are living today...since I have the choice to buy whatever I like, go wherever I want, and say whatever I wish.....just the opposite of the glorious labour days back in the 80's!
Claire Busuttil
Aug 24th 2012, 09:20
the biggest funeral ever on this island.....very well deserved.
A. Xuereb
Aug 24th 2012, 09:19
Well done Times for the coverage you have been giving us since last Monday evening, especially for this service. I am sure it was a mammoth task given the thousands who thronged the streets to bid farewell to Mr Mintoff. Condolonces to his loved ones for their loss.
John Caruana
Aug 24th 2012, 09:15
Sur Mark Cassa, Int l-izbalji biss tara? Allura Mintoff m'ghamel xejn ta' gid ghalija u ghalik u ghal Malta? Ma tafx li qabel Mintoff Malta kienet semplicement fortizza tal-Inglizi? Veru li Dr. Borg Olivier gab l-indipendenza imma irridu nametu li nofs Malta kienet ghada taht l-Inglizi u l-Inglizi wara li qdejnihom fil-gwerra kienu ihalsuna mizerja. Ejja inkunu onesti u nghidu l-gid mhux l-izbalji biss.
Wenzu Vella
Aug 24th 2012, 08:54
A big thank you to The Times for keeping us emigrants informed of this great part of our story that will go down in history. I have never waivered to believe that the wealth of a nation should be shared by all for the good of everyone. The tree that the Great Man Duminku Mintoff planted started bearing good fruit from day one and if it is looked after it will remain bearing fruit for generations to come.
Many are those who where vehemently against the reform because it has not suited them and still bitterly hate the Great Man. The first thing they should do is first search their conscience to see if they where not being too self centred about their egoistic position of power. Secondly would they refuse any benefits that could flow to them and members of their family from the system? I dare say I do not think that they will.
Joe Fenech
Aug 24th 2012, 08:37
Why amateurs bands playing? Why not the AFM band which at least should be slightly better?
fred sammut
Aug 24th 2012, 11:08
ghax il Funeral statali is Sibt u mhux illum jew ilbierah......
tal bierah jissejah Corteo......
Mark Cassar
Aug 24th 2012, 07:59
With all respect to Mr.Mintoff, but you are all boasting about the social services, about the fact that he got rid of the British, that he did this and that…why don’t you remember about the glorious days the Labour regime gave Malta from 1971 to 1987? You boast that Mintoff left Malta’s coffers full of money…but have you ever considered why? Don’t you remember that infrastructurally Malta was worse than a third world country? Don’t you remember the daily water and electricity cuts (and these not due to faults but scheduled!!). Don’t you remember the decadent telephone system we had? Don't you remember that you couldn't buy what you wanted?
You boast that Mintoff gave us rights….Do you remember the removal of theword “Malta” from the name “Times of Malta”, or from the magazine “Malta Missjunarja”? Do you remember removing the word “Nazzjon” from the name “In-Nazzjon Taghna”? Do you remember that on Xandir Malta the name of Eddie Fenech Adami could not be mentioned? Do you remember the time when one risked ending up beaten if s/he had a copy of “In-Nazzjon Taghna” on the street? DO you remember the election of 1981, when on Xandir Malta, the celebration for a Socialist victory was greeted with a night of continuous playing of socialist anthems, with the MLP banner on the screen.
Do you remember the burning down of all the PN clubs in Malta? Do you remember the burning down of “The Times”? Eddie Fenech Adami's house....does it ring a bell?
Do you remember bulk buying? Do you remember going to the grocer and being forced to buy a kilo of rotten apples in order to be given 250g of ham, or a kilo of sugar? Do you remember waiting for weeks to find something basic at the grocer?
Do you remember the removal of all the public holidays?
Did you forget the special friendships he had with Gaddafi, Ceausescu, and all the Communist leaders in the world?
I have respect for Mr. Mintoff. May God give him eternal rest. But please, do not try to make the world forget what Malta had to endure under his rule!
Oh and by the way…the right that you can write and say what you want is NOT something Mintoff gave you! The fact that you can do so on a PC through the internet is not something he gave you…since if it was for him, we would not have access to these things!
Pat Hobson
Aug 24th 2012, 09:21
@Mark Cassar
I remember:
Mintoff inherited a third world country from the previous PN administration with an already mounting debt of Lm 43,000,000.
Leaving the Maltese Treasury with nearly a Euro 1 billion.
Roads constructed, and new ones opened. Triq Garibaldi, Triq Dicembru 13, etc.
A boom tourist industry. So much so that the country's infrastructure couldn't cope with it, hence the water and electricity cuts.
The technology in telephony advanced after Mintoff's premiership. It's no use trying to find fault in this field. As for computers, they were introduced in Malta in 1982. The only fear Mintoff head about computers, is that they may take the place of the workers.
The mentioning or not mentioning the name of the Leader of the Opposition on Xandir Malta, lasted only 3 days. You're mentioning as though it lasted years.
As for the removal of "Malta" from titles, just tell me where you find in other countries titles with the name of the country all over magazines, shops, associations and everything. In Malta, everything was in exaggerated mode. And you know why, because there was a clause, that if Malta is used, there would have been some sort of subsidy. As for 'In-Nazzjon", the PN didn't apply for the title, because they preferred to use the Malta map for obvious political reasons
I deplore those acts of violence you mention. Every labourite deplores those acts of violence.
What removal of public holidays? Where are you living now? On planet Mars?
Bulk buying. You make me laugh. Do you know why bulk buying was introduced.? Did you know that the businessmen were raising the cost of living artificially to hinder the government in its work? Yes, that was the reason for bulk buying. The PN and the businessmen didn't like it. As for waiting for weeks to buy something from the grocer, you've just had your answer.
Special friendships with Ghaddafi, Ceaucesu, and all the communist leaders of the world? Still living in Mars, I presume.
As or the internet, you really don't know what you're saying. The internet is the product of the early 90's. And by the way, as I said before, computers were introduced when Mintoff was still Prime Minister.
Mr C Camilleri
Aug 24th 2012, 10:01
With all due respect but you really do not know what you are saying. You mention such things as water and electricity cuts and the telephone system BLA BLA BLA.... I am old enough to remember those days and I assure you that my parents always fed me very good food and whatever other people say I loved the chocolate that was sold those days even though many PNs say it tasted like soap. I do not remember suffering the water and electricity cuts even though i remember them. But I remember such cuts under PN.
And PLEASE spare me the burning of this and that. As if PNs did not do the same not to mention the burying of Labour Party people in Maghtab grounds because they were considered rubbish. And children and adults not being allowed in church because they were labour. Not to mention some people that still have huge hatred towards PL and they want them to rot in hell and if possible not even there and they make all this VERY PUBLIC.
I could keep on going but if Malta had to endure Mintoff's rule I assure you Malta has to endure PN rule nowadays with all disasters it is making one after the other. Starting from the super power station.
Surely Mintoff did not do everything right. I would be silly to think that and Im sure there are things which could have been done better or less agressively but under Mr Cassar that he came, loved Malta, gave what was possible and maybe needed AT THAT TIME and left Malta RICH. PN came, took everything, got corrupted, destroyed most of Malta and left MALTA POOR !
And times change Mr Cassar, so do not mention the right to write what you want and the computer. That is technology that came after Mintoff. My God, get your timeline straight ! Cause in 1985 i got my first computer and 1993 I had internet at home and this not becuase of PN but because AT THAT TIME technology started progressing into houses.
Times change Mr Cassa and elections make sure of that but some people still do not understand it. If you think that Mintoff would have survived more elections with such rules you are mistaken and that is why PN got elected later. But i would rather be eating a Husky chocolate tasting of soap rather that seeing my country riding towards disaster as is happening now.
Anthony Falzon
Aug 24th 2012, 10:11
WELL SAID MARK, HOW VERY TRUE..
Mark Cassar
Aug 24th 2012, 12:25
@ Pat Hobson,
yes Pat, as I already said in another comment...Mintoff left the coffers full of money but everything in Malta was in shambles!
What boom in the tourist industry? Were you in Malta?!
What technology in telephony?! It was worse than that in a third world country! Don't you remember calling someone and finding someone else speaking on the same line as you?!
Are you sure that not mentioning EFA's name on Xandir Malta lasted 3 days only? And if it was the case (which I am sure it wasn't), was it right to do so?
As regards the names "Malta" and "Nazzjon"....you just drove past my comment....Yes....the much beloved perit forced The Times to remove Malta from the name, forced Malta Missjunarja to change name, and forced PN to remove Nazzjon from the paper's name!
Deploring acts of violence today then is something natural for labourites...pity it took them till JM was leader to discover that they had violent elements within them! And pity that you didn't deplore these same acts when they took place! You and your kind want the rest of Malta to forget..but I will never forget Zejtun for instance...I will not forget Rabat...I will not forget the thugs which used to beat the hell out of us at PN activities!!! I forgave them long ago....things change..but forgetting would be an insult to the history of Malta!
As regards removal of public holidays...what public holidays have we lost today? Every one of them is still in place...if it falls on a sunday it won't be carried on to Monday...what's the deal? How different it is from the removal of, say Independence Day or Mnarja!!! And these were removed even if they fell on Monday, Tuesday and so on!!
You still drove past my comment on the friendship with communist leaders.....I think that you were not on Mars then....but either on Saturn, on Jupiter or Pluto......The special friendship with Gaddafi was especially shown on 31/3/1979...when the Lybian tyrant came here as if he was the true saviour of the Maltese from the British and treated as a hero!
I still remember ceausescu handshaking Mintoff and KMB! I still remember the treaty signed by AST with Kim Jong Il, or whatever his name was!
As regards computers....Mintoff didn't want computers....his opinion was that they were useless...the internet is something recent, compared to Mintoff's time...but if it was for him we would be living in a totalitarian state....with every thing controlled by the regime...so rest assured...writing what either I or you wrote is not something given as a blessing by Mintoff....because I repeat: if it was for him we would not be doing so!
Marco Gauci
Aug 24th 2012, 19:26
Naqbel mija fil mija ma Mr Cassar.
Ma kienx hemm ghazla ta' prodotti fil 1970's bhal m'hawn illum fis sena 2012.
Illum bil credit cards tixtri li trid !!! Halli wara toqghod thallas id-dejn.
Pero ghazla u mhux ghazla il problema baqghet l-istess ghax b'paga minima ta' ftit aktar minn Euro600 fix-xahar ma tantx ghandek ghazla.
Some food for thought Mr Cassar.
mark borg
Aug 24th 2012, 07:04
Dom Mintoff -What a cult !
Brian Farrugia
Aug 24th 2012, 06:50
Mr Mintoff you died but you are not dead, your dream of a free country and free though will be followed by your followers. You once said that the vast majority of M
Steve Pace
Aug 24th 2012, 06:43
The band plays the International, the socialist anthem - Found this version on a wikipedia
Second stanza
Il n'est pas de sauveurs suprêmes
Ni Dieu, ni César, ni tribun
Producteurs, sauvons-nous nous-mêmes
Décrétons le salut commun
Pour que le voleur rende gorge
Pour tirer l'esprit du cachot
Soufflons nous-mêmes notre forge
Battons le fer quand il est chaud
|: C'est la lutte finale
Groupons-nous, et demain
L'Internationale
Sera le genre humain :|
There are no supreme saviours
Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune.
Producers, let us save ourselves,
Decree the common salvation.
So that the thief expires,
So that the spirit be pulled from its prison,
Let us fan the forge ourselves
Strike the iron while it is hot.
|: This is the final struggle
Let us group together, and tomorrow
The Internationale
Will be the human race.
Is this the same.... again ,,, just asking ..
Pule' Carmel
Aug 28th 2012, 20:57
In a modern Europe, the third line no longer applies. Producers no longer exist, now it is a case of inventing " unnecessary projects" financed by Brusssels with paper money to reduce unemployment whose earnt money will be depreciated so fast that the work done would have been done by slavery.
Josephine Muscat
Aug 24th 2012, 06:43
One should seriously recommend the renaming of the street where he lived most his life in Tarxien to Triq Duminku Mintoff. And if we truly believe that Dom Mintoff was our man behind the welfare state then all Offices relating to the welfare system should be named so.....servizzi Socjali Duminku Mintoff
Brian Farrugia
Aug 24th 2012, 06:39
Who once said that the Russians would invade us, we would become a communist state and a million other lies?
Jack Attard
Aug 24th 2012, 05:36
You were simply the best,Dom Mintoff.Dr Joseph Muscat will be just as good, give him the chance.
Charles Muscat
Aug 24th 2012, 04:45
This is all politics and nothing else.
R. Gauci
Aug 24th 2012, 01:53
Insellimlek Perit - Missier Malta Hielsa mill-hakma barranija u fuq kollox hielsa mill-faqar.
L-ammont ta` nies Nazzjonalisti li rajt illum jaghtuh tislima kienet haga ma titwemminx, min inehhik mill-faqar ma tista tinsih qatt int x'kulur int. Zbalji ghamel mela ma ghamilx Sur Twanny Borg bhal kullhadd f'din id-Dinja imma fi zmien li tant thobb int mhux il-prezz tat-tonn taz-zejt konnha naghtu kaz izda li nilhqu ftit gaxin, li ghal min ma jafx kienu l-leftovers ta` l-Inglizi, flok jispicca fil-landa taz-zibel kien jispicca fl-istonku tal-Maltin .. u nhallsu ghalih.
Joe Xuereb
Aug 24th 2012, 00:58
Fi żmieni spiss bkejt minħabba xi żgħażugħ imma qatt ma għaddieli minn moħħi li fi xjuħiti kellu jasal il-jum li nibki għal raġel ta' sitta u disgħin sena.
Niżżik ħajr Perit li int lgħabt parti biex jien tgħallimt x'jiġifieri 'ruħ' fonda daqs l-akbar baħar, ruħ li qajl qajl wieħed jifhimha. Insellimlek missier!
@ H Stafrace (Today, 16:19). Sur? Stafrace, Mintoff kellu l-barka ta' poplu Malti ġenwin. Ma kellux bżonn ta' tberik ieħor. U dan għaliex kellu saqajh pjantati sew fl-art, u idejh soda ta' veru. L-idejn soda trid tagħti prova li huma tassew hekk u mhux jistrieħu fuq il-'kapaċita' ta' ħaddieħor - bi prezz enormi, bi flus il-poplu. U agħar, fis-sens ta' ċaħda.
@ David Buttigieg (Today, 18:24) and @ Lesley Darmanin (Today, 17:12). Mr. Darmanin, Mintoff trampled on our rights you say?! I won't list his achievements as they are well known (but ignored by you who prefers to speak of trampling. You are so wrong. Wrong, because a great mind like Mintoff's could not trample on anything even if he wanted to. He sought justice - to minds like Mintoff's, justice is the only thing that matters - so by definition he was no tramp-ler. Seeker of justice, that yes! I know that neither Buttigieg, and even more so Darmanin, have what it takes to understand this. So their problem; and so not mine!
And one final comment Darmanin. You talk of worrying. Is that worry about things to come? Because if any worrying is to be done, it should start here and now. Unless you are ecstatically happy with the status quo, that is. Wonders never cease. Ferħanin għax ċwieċ is very much part and parcel of the Maltese mindset of far to many for one not to be irked somewhat.
Joe Xuereb
Aug 24th 2012, 00:51
Fi żmieni spiss bkejt minħabba xi żgħażugħ imma qatt ma għaddieli minn moħħi li fi xjuħiti kellu jasal il-jum li nibki għal raġel ta' sitta u disgħin sena.
Niżżik ħajr Perit li int lgħabt parti biex jien tgħallimt x'jiġifieri 'ruħ' fonda daqs l-akbar baħar, ruħ li qajl qajl wieħed jifhimha. Insellimlek missier!
@ H Stafrace (Today, 16:19). Sur? Stafrace, Mintoff kellu l-barka ta' poplu Malti ġenwin. Ma kellux bżonn ta' tberik ieħor. U dan għaliex kellu saqajh pjantati sew fl-art, u idejh soda ta' veru. L-idejn soda trid tagħti prova li huma tassew hekk u mhux jistrieħu fuq il-'kapaċita' ta' ħaddieħor - bi prezz enormi, bi flus il-poplu. U agħar, fis-sens ta' ċaħda.
@ David Buttigieg (Today, 18:24) and @ Lesley Darmanin (Today, 17:12). Mr. Darmanin, Mintoff trampled on our rights you say?! I won't list his achievements as they are well known (but ignored by you who prefers to speak of trampling. You are so wrong. Wrong, because a great mind like Mintoff's could not trample on anything even if he wanted to. He sought justice - to minds like Mintoff's, justice is the only thing that matters - so by definition he was no tramp-ler. Seeker of justice, that yes! I know that neither Buttigieg, and even more so Darmanin, have what it takes to understand this. So their problem; and so not mine!
Matthew Balzan
Aug 24th 2012, 00:43
Anke f'mewtek irnexxielek taghti risposta lil min ikkritikak perit! Ma ninsewk qatt u bhalek ma jkunx hawn!
Charles.C. Brown
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:50
@ RICH BRAD SAUNDERS, Sound to me like youre one of the many idiots who believe what they read in the british tabloids, grow up man and know the true facts about Mintoff and the good deeds he did for these islands. Something that you certainly dont know is that on the very next day that Mintoff took office he flew to Westminster and told Mr Heath(the british prime minister of the time in case you dont know) to start treating the maltese servicemen including those in the Navy, like your father, equally cos one thing that you dont know is that while the maltese servicemen was doing the same job as there british counterparts they were being payed half the wage of a british serviceman.. Mintoff not only succeded in bringing equal pay and a decent pension for the servicmen but also made the Mod pay £14000000 a year for thier bases in Malta .And as for Mintoff kicking the british out that is totally untrue the british base closed down when the 7 year contruct signed beween Mintoff and the MOD came to and end on the 31th march 1979.
Victor Vella
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:57
Li kieku Mintoff ma kellux tfixkil mill-knisja, mit-tixwix tal-partit nazzjonalista, u mill-prepotenza tal-gvern Ingliz li ried juza` lill-Malta bhala fortizza, li kieku Malta hija hafna ahjar milli qeghda illum. Illum minn dak kollu li ghamel Mintoff gie mkisser minn dan ir-Regim ta` GonziPN. Malta illum giet imnezza` minn kollhox u ergajna gejna laqgha tal-barrani u rajna rega` gie f`idejn il-barrani. Fil-futur Malta ghad trid tghaddi minn martitju u zminijiet koroh. Iz-zmien ittina parir.. Pero jekk nahdmu flimkien, kif kien jghallimna Mintoff, nirbhu zgur.
M camilleri
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:55
Grazzi Perit,
Ghax bis sahha tieghek jien taghlimt fis skola tas snajja li infethu taht gvern laburista u il lum nista nejd li jien sinjur u mux fil middle class imma min ta fuq, li kikku ta 13 il sena ma thaltx ga skolla ta snajja il lum min jaf xgara mini ghax qatt ma kelli hajra nibqa is secondarja wisq probali kikku ma wasalt imkien.il lum dawn liskejjel inalqu ghal kollox u hafna zaghzah li ma iridux jitaghlmu is secondarja qedin jispicaw ma jafu xejn..
Perit nawguralek il vjagg it tajjeb sa kemm nargaw nintaqaw..
Michael A. Saliba
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:34
Like most Maltese, irrespective of what party they vote, I cannot but feel Dom MIntoff's death and his moving funeral ceremony as historic events, very rare in Malta, a country full of fleeting figures who look so large for a while and then simpy dwindle into oblivion. This is surely NOT the case with Mintoff, a man whose foresight, ability, determination and intellectual honesty made him one of the very few Maltese who could and did act on the world stage not as an imitator or as a yes-man, but as a respected leader and negoziator, acting of course within the limits that the size of his country imposed on him, but never showing any trace of psychological submissiveness.
Before leaving for Italy in 1971 I had the chance to vote, my first and only vote in Malta, for MIntoff's Labour Party of course! After that I followed closely all his efforts to adapt Malta to a changing world, usually agreeing wiht his choices, sometimes disagreeing. But always respecting and admiring his exceptional qualities.
Now I find it a bit strange that everybody wants to pay him homage, even those who (mostly, but not only, before 1971) did a lot to destroy his attempts to extend civil rights and reduce old-style priveleges, making themselves and Malta a laughing-stock in the eyes of the world.
But that's life! The most vital thing now is not to forget the undeniable seriousness with which Dom Mintoff took up his job of leading the country. I hope that when the new General Elections are held both politicians and electors will keep this not so common quality in mind!
Mr David Ganado
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:29
What a disgrace having all that shouting in God's House! However much they love Mintoff it was totally out of place to let that rabble desecrate the church.
Mr saviour magro
Aug 24th 2012, 10:09
Ahna meditteranji sur Gando, demmna shun u meta titlef xi hadd kbir min hajtek bla ma trid kultant tkun esteriku. fi dinja mhux kulhadd l-istess probbali jien hu int qaghdna insegwu mid dar, u l-emmozzjonijiet taghna kienu differrenti jistgha jkun li hsibijiet taghna fdan il-hin huma differenti.pero nista nigarantilek jien li meta jigi nieqes l-eccelenza tieghu EFA niggarantilek jien min issa li ha jkun hemm l-istess isterizmu. hu ghaliex le wara kollox, la thoss li dik il-persuna fil-politika taghtek xi haga fil-hajja.inti qatt ma segwejt xi funeral l-italja ta xi persuna importanti ?T'ahseb li Alla ha ghalih ghax in-nies ghamlu hekk?
John Smith
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:07
Prosit lis-societa' filarmonica La Valette ghal marci funerbi li daqqew fi triq ir-Repubblika!! Vera ghamlu atmosfera sabieha u xierqa ghal dan il-mument! Grazzi!
Michael Rizzo
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:05
If you dont think that Going around in five towns with a coffin is not grotesque to say the least. If you call that giving such an important person, who had an effect on all our lives, respect . Then we were not watching the same programme. My argument is the MAN deserved more respect than what was done to him today
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:02
THANK YOU DEEPLY TIMES.......................for one you arose personal past history which is not something easy: WELL DONE, but then you gave us a coverage which no doubt no succeeding Prime Minister will ever have as THE PEOPLE have shown that THIS MAN, DEAR DOM, have remembered that MALTA was a non-productive barren rock, used as a Fortress and dominated to suit BRITISH interests. MINTOFF altered this trend of acceptance..............he did not go and waste months on end awaiting the courtesy of some British Politician..........upon taking over the reigns of power, DOM showed the way : MALTA will be mastered only by MALTESE and not by any other State or Institution.
It is a pity that our personal pride and pique did nothing to appreciate what we witnessed today during the 28 year period DOM was formally out of the official political life. But then nobody has referred to THE SAMARITANI which did alot of good during a few most active years where some individuals truly in need were helped out. MALTA could have used the experience, expertise and expositions of this GREAT MAN.........regrettably we did not : let us now hope his varied contributions will be compiled, an unbiased biography published and may MALTA and the MALTESE get back that reality that MALTA can do well as a country with wealth being distributed among all, not restricted to the established and corrupt encircled circles.
A. Attard
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:42
@ H Stafrace i really dont know why are u leaving such negative comments on here? U are the only one today who totaly went way beyong low!! Let us mourn in peace pls go somewhere else to be negative!! What a farewell!! Fit for a king!!! Thank u Dom!!!
S. Bugeja
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:33
Bin-nies li rajt illum stajt nikkonferma li Mintoff ħalla impatt pożittiv kbir fuq pajjiżna.
M Farrugia
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:32
Il-kumment tad-deputy segretarju generali tal-GWU kien wihed purament politku u barra minn loku f'dan il-mument ta niket u dieqa. Kumment li l-avversarju politci tal-L.P. jistaw jghamlu kapital minnu .
M Farrugia
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:30
Li kieku il-corteo sar f'normla fejn twieled, u l-kwartieri generali tal-parit ma kontx nikteb dan il-kummnet. Jiena li ma noqgodx il-Kottonera inhoss li saret diskriminazzjoni ma irhula u bliet ohra ghajr bormla fejn twieled u Hal Tarxien fejn kien jghix. Ghax id-distrett kollu tal-kottonera biss. Mela Mintoff gha dawn in-nies biss hadem mhux ghal Malta kollha. Min gietu din l-idea f'rasu u wettaqa ghamel hazin ghax ghamel diskriminazjoni man-nies ta sanpawl, mellihea, mgarr, gudja birzebbugia, sliema u hafna postijiet ohra. Ghalkemm dan kien id-distrett politiku ta Mintoff u forsi se jkun anki ta Joseph Muscat ilMaltin tal-komplament ta Malta jiehdu ghalihom ghal din id-diskriminazzjoni.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:27
Michael Rizzo: Ma tisthix tikteb dak il-kliem ? possibbli, ghax rajt din l-espressjoni enormi ta' mhabba lejn bniedem li refa mill-faqar tant eluf ta' nies, ma flahtx tissapporti l-mibgheda li hud minnkhom ghandlkhom ghal dan il-bniedem li pogga lil pajjizna fuq il-mappa tad dinja , u holoq il-welfare State biex il-maltin ikunu mghejjuna minn meta jitwieldu sakemm imutu !
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:17
X’ironija din!
Mintoff jindifen ġo art sakra u is-segwaċi tiegħu ġol miżbla!
JC.
Paul Gauci
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:04
Rest in peace Perit! Thank you for giving most of your life for our country. As a 27 year old I don't remember you as Prime Minister but I remember very well what my dad used to tell me about you since I was a child. Co-incidently my father passed exactly 35 days before you. I'm sure you're both together now in heaven watching over us. Grazzi ta kollox!
Mr B Busuttil
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:02
Sahha Perit! u Grazzi ta Kollox!
Nick Carter
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:47
This is why I, as a foreigner, love your island. No British reserved farewell but an emotional occasion with an argument in the background! Perhaps its time over the next two days to put differences aside and remember THE MOST FAMOUS MALTSESE in the last hundred years.
A Farrugia
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:43
Tislima xierqa lill Perit Duminku Mintoff intweriet illum, wiehed mill gganti tal politka Maltija, ghas sehem u xoghol mill aktar siewi li ghamel ghal dan il pajjjz, xoghol li ghamel b' tant dedika u mhabba li dejjem wera lejn Art Twielidu. Il- folol tan- nies uriet l apprezzament ghax xoghol kollu li wettaq bla distinzjoni ta xejn ghal KULLHADD. Grazzi Perit, issa haqqek il mistrieh ta dejjem, inti tibqa ikona ghal istorja ta Malta, bhalha l' bennej ta Malta moderna u hielsa mill hakma tal- barrani.
M Micallef
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:34
Correct me if I am wrong .. but as far as I know the national anthem is not played at funerals?
Mr saviour magro
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:15
@twanny borg
taf xhini differenza bejn Mintoff u G.Borg olivier siehbi?li wiehed halla lill inglizi jinneggozjaw l-Indipendenza kif riedu huma u kif kien jaqbel lilhom ghal l-iskopijiet taghom u bqajna bazi taghhom sa 79 filwaqt li mintoff innegozzja hu ma l-ingliz dak li kien jaqbel ghalik siehbi u ghal pajjizek. dak kull ma ha nghajdlek sur borg.Grazzi perit tghalli erfajt lill missieri mill faqar.geazzzi perit tghalli serraht lill missieri li meta jigi nieqes nhu ommi kellha mohha mistrieh li kienet ha tiehu il-pensjoni ta romol wara li ta il-vot.Grazzi perit ta kemm il-cekk ircevejna ta children's allowance li ghadna ingawduhom sal lum b'differenza li qatt ma zdiedu meta dak iz zmien kont taghmel id -dinja bihom xhin jigi il-milied mhux bhal lum tiehu qattgha meta jigi il-milied ghax il paga baqat pjaga.
grazzi Perit bhalek ma jkun hawnx .
John Farrugia
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:22
Ma stajtx tissimplifika l achievements tal Perit ahjar minn hekk.
Grazzi Dom, RIP
Michael Rizzo
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:05
You are making a mockery of the man. Watching it on TV, everything staged for the cameras. U should all be ashamed for trying to gain political mileage out of a dead man.
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:14
What mockery Mr. Rizzo? Doesn't the Maltese people have the right to show its appreciation of this great man's deed? Yes, there was organization. If there wasn't who knows what would have happened? And what political mileage? Does respecting one's dead is gaining political mileage. How small-minded can you be?
ALBERT FENECH
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:18
Il-Perit Dom Mintoff - dead or alive - IS political mileage and that's NOT on Malta's say-so - the world says so. Read all the international obituaries by the world's leading media or would you have us believe these have also been "engineered" and "staged"?
ALBERT FENECH
Joseph Brincat
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:19
Michael Rizzo
Today, 20:05
HE IS DEAD >> BUT HE IS ALIVE IN OUR MINDS FOR EVER !!!!
Monica Muscat
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:25
I to would have thought that more dignity and respect should have been shown. But of course, even after his death, Dom Mintoff seems to be reaping what he sowed.... Not that he would have cared....I think that now, beyond caring, he will be laughing his head off at the mockery they made of his funeral!!!
A. Attard
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:32
Mr. Rizzo seriously u and people like u should take theire negativity somewhere else! A mockery for reall?? uwejja man!!
M Darmanin
Aug 24th 2012, 01:50
Mr Rizzo .. did you not do the same during other statesmen who passed away from your political party ???? Oooops sorry you can do it but the lejburisti no ..... give us a break ... I went to concerts with a tribute to Guido de Marco and Mrs Fenech Adami and still I applauded them because I respect everyone especially the dead.
Steve Pace
Aug 24th 2012, 06:55
@ Albert Fenech.... you mean this kind ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/politics-obituaries/9490070/Dom-Mintoff.html
Steve Pace
Aug 24th 2012, 06:57
@ Albert Fenech -
or perhaps you mean this ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19327913
mark borg
Aug 24th 2012, 07:37
you should be ashamed of your jelousy michael rizzo .
now watch next saturday ...and feel more envy ! because malta will always adore the great DOM ....irrespective of a couple of hundred frustrated people like yourself.
Charles Micallef
Aug 24th 2012, 07:56
The one person who should hide his face in shame is you Mr Rizzo, you are obviously are so politically biased to the extent that you lost every respect for your country's leaders.
Mintoff is respected by world leaders and the people who care of their past history,
obviously this does not include you!
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:04
WELL DONE FOR THIS MARATHONIC COVERAGE. SO MANY THOUSANDS OUT THERE IN THIS ANOTHER VERY HOT AND HUMID DAY HAS ALSO ITS POLITICAL SIGNIFICANCE - THE PEOPLE UNDER ANY CONDITIONS ARE SENDING THEIR CLEAR MESSAGE. THE SPIRIT OF DOM WILL PRESIDE OVER THE FORTHCOMING GENERAL ELECTIONS AND EXPERTS CONCLUDE THAT THE RESULT IS GOING TO BE AN OUTSTANDING ONE.........................ALL THE RECENT SIGNS CAN BE TRANSLATED INTO ONE CONCLUSION.
PERIT ERGAJT GHAQQAD IL-PARTIT U L-PARTIT ISSA HUWA RISURGAT B`ENTUZJASMU ENORMI.
Notwithstanding this, A THIRD POLITICAL FORCE IS MORE NECESSARY THAN EVER BEFORE.........After all that is what GREAT DOM had done in BOFFA`s time going back to the 1943 / 1947 years when these islands were granted SELF GOVERNMENT. MINTOFF has stamped MALTA yet again in his PASSING OVER, NOT DYING, TO A REALM which is of a completely different hue to the muddled and corrupt one we know over here.
Mario Camilleri
Aug 24th 2012, 07:07
Dr Bezzina, naqbel mieghek perfettament ghax jien bhalek inhoss li din il-mewt ukoll serviet ta GID kemm ghal laburisti kif ukoll ghal hafna eluf li ma jiftakrux lil mintoff u f'temp ta erbat itjiem saru jafu tassew minn kien kontra dawk il-hafna li kien jaqblilhom li jghidu kontrih!!!
Jien nghid haga wahda, tal-PN jistaw iwahlu 100 billboard ghax mal-WIEHED li jwahlu tal-PL bir-ritratt sabih li ghamlu fil-faccata tal-kwartieri lanqas ha jibdew fl-elezjoni li gejja.
Tkaxkira rekord.
Joseph Brincat
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:53
THE BIGGEST CORTEGE OF AN EX PRIM MINISTER
OF MALTA, EVER HAD
GOD BLESS YOU DOM MINTOFF
Mr David Ganado
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:26
Were you around when the last prime minister died?
Josef Borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:48
Bli rajt illum indunajt kemm kien ragel KBIR. Ma jista qatt ikun li kellu l-hazin kollu li jsemmu u mbghad tara dan l-isterizmu li rajna llum.
MALCOLM SEYCHELL
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:41
u dan meta il partit prova ikissru ftit snin ilu
Luciano Pace Parascandalo
Aug 24th 2012, 00:42
it-tajjeb u l-hazin ta' bniedem ma jolqottx lil kulhadd l-istess....min intlaqat hazin ma kienx fit-toroq illum
Michael Rizzo
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:35
What a load of hypocrites. The same people who called him traitor. No need for "teatrini" !!!! Just let the man rest in peace an
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:15
Michael Rizzo, it was a family tiff, and the PN made the most of it! The PN drove a wedge between Mintoff and Sant, so that it can gain the upperhand as it was known would happen. Much contrary to what happened in these last few months.
Frank Zahra
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:38
Mr. Rizzo,
Definitely that the labour supporters were angry at the time cos we did not understand the reasoning behind those decisions way back in 1998. Yes we were all angry. That is one of the mistakes that Mintoff did in my opinion. PN gave all its best to take political advantage out of it.
Having said this, the Maltese people will never ever ever forget what Mintoff did to our country and in some way or another, everyone PN & PL supporters is benefiting from them. The means, yes, can be questioned but the results no.
Yes, its like when you fight with a member of your family, it happens, you get angry and maybe it takes a while until things go back to how they used to be, but that will still remain your family and is never forgotten.
Paying such tribute to Mintoff, is the least that Malta can do to show its gratitude to the work that Mintoff did in his political life.
J Busuttil
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:41
@ Pat Hobson
Pat Michel is correct you are totally wrong. The same people mourning him today are the same ones who had called him a traitor. It is written in our political history books.
Was Alfred Sant present near the PL headquarters if not I have my doubts if he has ever pardoned him ( Mintoff)
Now by gone's are by gone's
A Dimech
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:32
Sahha Missier
Kevin Mifsud
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:27
YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.....GO REST IN PEACE...AMEN
MALCOLM SEYCHELL
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:14
May you rest in peace. The best prime minister Malta ever had
E. Vassallo
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:34
After Fenech Adami of course...But I forgot Mintoff was the saviour for left wingers or......?
Jonathan Gatt
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:41
Grazzi Perit
Jay Aquilina
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:26
Grazzi Perit, ghax int hloqt lis skejjel tas snajja u biss sahha tieghek u tat tmexxija li jien ninsab nahdem fejn ninsab illum.
B. Theuma
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:20
Grazzi ta' kollox Perit !
twanny borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:14
bormla...........probabbli l-istes nies li ghajruh traditur............................................
MALCOLM SEYCHELL
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:12
Who those 50 people which Fredu Sant managed to get for his meeting?
G Schembri
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:37
Don't be silly, why bring this up today? Don't all families have a fight every now and then. Both Mintoff and Alfred Sant wanted what was best for Malta, they only had different views. They both had very strong characters and they called each others bluff. At least Alfred Sant resigned and did not cling to power, when he realised he had lost the majority in parliament.
Steve Pace
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:10
@ G. Schembri - Don't want to burst any bubbles, but have i missed it or Dr. Alfred Sant made no comments on any media so far.. correct me if i am wrong..
R Axisa
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:18
@Steve Pace - yes Dr Sant made public comments - saw him on TV!
G Schembri
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:30
Steve Pace - You are wrong, Alfred Sant said that Mintoff was a great man, do you think our journalists did not bother to ask for his comments.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:35
Twanny Borg: U int u dawk li llum qed tippruvaw izzebilhuh, kontu tant fahhartuh fin- 1998 - IPOKRITI !!!
Frans Aguis
Aug 24th 2012, 00:13
@Steve Pace... Yes you are wrong.
Steve Pace
Aug 24th 2012, 06:46
@G.Schembri - For all that it's worth even EFA said that..... we all seem to think about the good about a person when unfortunately he / she passes over to better life. Pity we don't show as much admiration when he / she is alive...
mark borg
Aug 24th 2012, 07:22
mhux kulhadd ikollhu xi jghid ? allura nehhi ftit l-ghira li ghandek u irispetta f jum ta luttu lil dan ir ragel legendarju li se jibqa jissemma ghal mijiet ta snin ohra ..jigifieri l-ghira tieghek u ta ftit nies ohra bhalek ...kollhu ta xejn ghax dal bhiedem mexxa lil malta ghal hafna snin u miet mewta dinjituza bi tlett kwarti tal pajjiz jibku mewtu !
twanny borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:09
ghadni kemm smajt lil wiehed kelliem fuq super one fejn dan qal li t-tfal ma jiftakrux per ezempju ta' zieda ta' lm.4 fil-gimgha. li ma qalx dan huwa li dik kienet sena tal-elezzjoni. naqqas milli jghid kemm il-sena ghamel wara bla ebda zieda. bl-iskuza billi rahhas it-tonn taz-zejt. jekk ghandha tinkiteb l-istorja huwa l-karattru tieghu. kien jitla jigri kastilja biex jimpresjona. pero l-akbar zbal tieghu kien meta halla marmalja u pulizija tkisser u taghmel li trid anarkija shiha. meta tara s-snin kollha li mexxa l-partit ma tantx il-mlp ghamel zmien jikverna aktar jekk tnehhi is-snin li ghamel kontra r-rieda tal-poplu. kien huwa li isserva BIL-KNISJA U GHAMEL HSARA KBIRA. din min-naha politika fejn nghid li anki ghamel tajjeb ukoll. ghalkemm hafna nies imwegga xorta onestament nixtieqlu l-paci ta' dejjem.
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:21
Twanny Borg, vera ma taf xejn fuq l-istorja ta' pajjizek. TAht Mintoff iz-zidiet kienu regolari. Il-pagi taht Mintoff gholew b'6 darbiet jekk mhux b'izjed. Li semmejt dwar it-tonn taz-zejt, u kollox, dik kienet biex jikkontrolla l-gholi tal-hajja, ghax in-negozjanti kienu jghollu l-affarijiet kif gie gie, u minghajr kontrol biex igibu dahru mal-hajt il-gvern. Dwar il-pulizija, spjegali l-fatt li hafna minnhom, wara li tela' gvern nazzjonalista, hafna minnhom hadu promotion. Niehu pjacir jekk tispjegali daqsxejn dan il-fatt. Dwar li Mintoff ghamel il-hsara il-knisja, vera ma taf xejn. Mela min difen lill-Laburisti fil-mizbla? Min difen lill-laburisti minghajr is-sagramenti? Min ma ried izewweg lill-laburisti fil-knisja, izda fis-sagristija? Nistenna twegiba jekk jghogbok.
Anthony Grech
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:43
Twanny Borg kieku ma kienx dan il-bniedem kieku int illum l-anqas taf taqra u tikteb, naturalment jekk ma intix minn tal-High Class.
R. Azzopardi
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:03
Pat Hobson,
Possibbli l-wage freeze ta erbgha snin jew aktar insejtha? Il-friza totali fuq il-krejja tant li s-sidien tal-propjeta mietu foqra insejtha? L-gheluq ta l-iskejjel privati u tal-knisja insejtu (jew ma kienitx tghodd ghalik ghax dak lussu zejjed)? Il-hbiberija ma mexejja barranin mistmerrija mid-dinja kollha qatt ma fissret xejn ghalik? Kontroll assolut fuq li jidhol u ma jidholx fil-pajjiz tahseb li kien sew go pajjiz modern? Il-fatt li kull ma kellna bzonn kellna nixtruh minn Sqallija ghax li konna insibu hawn kien tal-qamel possibbli kien jghaddi ghalik? Il-frazi "I MALTESE SONO AFFAMATI" li kienet miktuba b'kitba daqs dinja fuq hajt fil-port ta' Sqallija ma kienitx iggieghlek tisthi?
Dawn l-affarijiet KOLLHA ghexnihom. Mintoff vera ghen liz-zghir pero billi kasbar lil kbir. U kun af haga. Biex tiehu l-frott, trid tiehu hsieb lis-sigra. In-negozjant, l-imprenditur, l-employer huwa s-sigra. Jekk ma tibzax ghalih, inutli tibza ghaz-zghir ghax mhux se jkun bizzejjed.
E. Vassallo
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:36
@Twanny Borg
ma ghedtx l-istorja kollha...Mela insejt il-korp tal-pijunieri u l-industriji kbar fi zmienu bhal dik tal-kappar.
Aaron Cassar
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:09
GRAZZI PERIT TAL GID LI HALEJTILNA
D. Xerri
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:00
Grazzi Dom Mintoff talli ghallimt lill-Maltin ma jibqghux rashom baxxuta meta quddiem il-barrani imma li kull Malti jhossu Kburi li hu Malti u jhares ghajn m`ghajn mal-barrani .... l-akbar kisba ghal Malta u l-Maltin li ghal tant snin minn dejjem kienu mahkuma u sfruttati mill-hakma barranijja - Wara Vassalli gie Dimech imbaghad gie Dom Mintoff - is-salvatur ta Malta Hielsa minn kull hakma barranijja !
twanny borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:13
borg olivier is-salvatur ta' malta ghax huwa gab l-indipendenza niddettaw ahna. mintoff ried l-integration.
R Abela
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:15
twanny borg tant konna niddettaw ahna li aqqas stajt tersaq lejn certu postijiet, ghax jigi xi suldat ingliz u jkeccik l'hemm.
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:16
@Twanny Borg. GBO gab nofs indipendenza, imma biex nghidu l-verita gab il-bidu tal-vera ndipendenza. Mintoff kompla fejn halla Borg Olivier. Dwar l-integration, kieku ghaddiet ta' Mintoff, kieku, ilna fl-EU min-1973! Tajjeb li tkun taf li meta m'ghaddietx ta' Mintoff l-Integration, u tajjeb tkun taf, li Mintoff ried li bl-Integration, konna se nkunu ndaqs ma l-Inglizi f'kollox, mhux semplici kolonja, ghajjat mall-ewwel ghall-Indipendenza. Borg Olivier dak iz-zmien ried Quasi Dominion Status, jigifieri anqas indipendenza shiha! Kun af l-istorja sew qabel ma tparla siehbi!
M Damato
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:59
@ Pat Hobson
Forsi dak kien (wiehed) mill-ikbar zbjali tieghu.... Li ma baqghax jippersisti ghall-integration.
Kif ghamlu wara kollox in-nazzjonalisti ghall-eu.
G Schembri
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:03
Twanny Borg, taghllem il-vera storja ta Malta mhux dak li jbellawlek. L-inipendenza tal-1964, kien ghad ghandna Regina kap tal-istat Malti, l-airport u Xandir f'idejn l-Inglizi, u gvernatur Ingliz. Kif tela Mintoff, ghamel gvernatur Malti, Sir Anthony Mamo, ghamel fthiem gdid ghal hlas tal-bazzi, u beda jahdem ghar-Republika. sentejn Wara Sir Anthony Mamo sar l-ewwel President ta' Malta u Malta saret Republika - Hemm veru sirna mexxeja taghna stess. Hemm veru bdejna niddettaw ahna.
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:04
@Damato. Ma setax. Malli l-Inglizi raw li Malta se tiggwadanja izjed milli se tiggwadanja l-Ingilterra, m'accettawhx ir-referendum. Ghalhekk Mintoff hareg jghajjat bl-Indipendenza. Naturalment, il-Knisja kienet kontra l-integration, bl-iskuza li konna se nsiru protestanti!
Mario Micallef
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:08
iva ergajt, tista tghidlina inti min itni u x'inti, iva bis-serjeta li ghidt li kellna l-indipendenza? Forsi jekk thaddem ftit mohhok, u qalbek, immissek ghidt, Gorg Borg Olivier, beda t-triq, biex Malta giet verament hielsa, u le, din x'tip ta'argumentagg ghandek ghid?Mela qed tahsibna boloh? Jew tant inhsadt b'dak li rajt ftit ilu, li tak ferh ta'genn,?
Brian Farrugia
Aug 24th 2012, 06:57
La il maltin ma riedux l-integration warraba Mintoff u ghazel l-alternativa.
Wayne Borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:53
these few days that have passed, we can confirm that, tough what some FEW people can say and the poison that comes out, Il-Perit was, is and will always be influential and loved! Grazzi Perit!!!
effie stafrace
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:53
grazzi mintoff.
Mohammed Hazzouri
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:48
God Bless you Dom Mintoff !!! May God rest you in peace... salute...
Rich Brad saunders
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:42
My father at the time a> Scotsman from Glasgow was serving in the RN, i was only a young lad and i remember we lived in Misida for a while, i can also remember in the late 70's the problems we had with the locals cause of the political situation at the time, some maltese used to shout abuse at us and many or our lads who were at the time serving on HM ships, i also attended Stella Maris College in Gzira where i made many friends some British some Maltese and ofcourse i loved the place and loved Malta, however now my father has passed on,i still fly to Malta for a break spending my money and ofcourse enjoying the sun, but even now i can honestly say and ofcourse many ex-servicemen, that i shall NOT be losseing any sleep over his passing, he made it difficult for the British at the time, many Maltese were employed by the British and when as you say this Mintoff guy kicked us out, many of your citizens found themselves out of work, ofcourse they all got this guy to thank for all the trouble he caused then in the 70's, as i said earlier no skin off my nose and definitly many of us will not be mourning his passing., now that alot of my countrymen spend alot of money in your country, all i can say is that without us bringing in the cash Malta will sink.
B Agius
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:21
My father, one of many, fought a war for your country, Mr Saunders, and when it ended the British army kicked him out. He had a family to feed and had to sell what little we had to scrape a living. How about that? Everyone dreams of independence and self rule - if you know your history it's full of struggles to do just that. Your Winston Churchill once declared this island unsinkable so I don't think it will sink without your contribution - although it is always welcome. Peace be with you and your own.
Lesley Darmanin
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:36
Contrary to any impression that might be given, Mr Saunders, there are many in Malta who are not mourning Mintoff's passing away either. As for all this nonsense about "kicking the English out". it is just Labour Party mythology. It is the narrow-minded view of a pathetic island mentality upon which the Maltese Labour Party thrives so well - vide Labour's position on the European Union and immigration, to mention just two examples.
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:42
Don't worry Mr. Saunders, we didn't lose any sleep either after you left. To tell you the truth, we felt really free. We felt a nation!
ANTHONY PAVIA
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:50
It is a blessing that your opinion is NOT shared by the majority of your countrymen who were associated with our young, independent, island state. Fortunately for us, we managed, with the help of all our political leaders, to diversify the source of incoming tourists, and today your nationals, albeit always welcome, represent a third of all arrivals.
As for money being spent, may I ask you to note that my co-nationals spent a lot of money over at your country enjoying the good there is over there; and keeping up friendships developed before and during the turbulent times you mention. However, we do not feel the need to brag about it.
I am sure it was not your intention, but without wanting to, you have given Mr Mintoff the best accolade he could possibly get. Your last sentence was the raison d'etre for all the enormously successful Mintoffian efforts to wrestle the Maltese economy out of the abyss you outline in your last sentence. Moreover, you may note that today we are your equal partners in the EU.
Toni Borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:50
Dream on Mister!
We showed to the entire world that even though we are small country we are able to be positive and compete with the best countries around the globe ALL alone with our own government and hard working citizens. We continue to work hard so that visitors like you will be amazed by our beautiful country and come over and over again. You mentioned the 70s riots... ok fine but don't forget the 2011 riots you had in London and the everyday protests in the streets.
We always wish you a nice stay in Malta.
Rgds
F Williams
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:53
Mr Saunders,
You seem you are still living in the glory days of the British empire. Your writings are further proof that Mintoff was right to kick you out of Malta. For centuries we Maltese served our foreign masters. I come from a family which loves almost everything that is British, my great grand father died during the first world war serving you brits, his son lost use of one of his ears serving you brits during he second world war. Even my father proudly served in the navy but he was happy to give up his good pension and supported the idea of a Military Free MALTA. You mentioned that Mintoff made it difficult for the British...Yes so what? You were in our country after all! Your post war government had the cheek not to allocate part of the marshall aid to the courageous fortress Island and instead threatened to close the dockyards...What an appreciation for our fore-fathers` effort in the war eh? Because for you Malta was just the Sunny Fortress Island to be used as you pleased! A nice retirement place, a good place to get drunk and sha..ing down the gut! Thanks for your comments Mr. Saunders! MALTA FIRST & FOREMOST! Little MALTA kicked out the GREAT BRITISH EMPIRE!
F Williams
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:55
"all i can say is that without us bringing in the cash Malta will sink."....You still think we are just an aircraft carrier?
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:00
@Lesley Darmanin. It's mythology eh!!?? Well, why don't you just look at the facts and see what really happened? Mintoff managed to get a deal with the British and Nato, which meant Lm102 million for seven years as rent, and with limited areas! Not as it was before the Defence Treaty of 1972. With the Defence Treaty of 1964, the British had under their rule 75% of the island. Yes, Mintoff kicked the British services out and yes Malta thrived after that, but not with the British help! And of course, the British tried their best to discourage the Maltese from letting go of the British. But Mintoff was always there, and managed to lead our country from a fortress economy to one based on work and tourism. As for Labour's present position, times change and the PL changed with them.
M Grima
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:00
Rest assured Mr. Sauders that Mr. Mintoff would not have welcomed your mourning. After fighting your war you accuse us that without your holiday money Malta would sink. Are you serious Rich or are you just trying to be super funny?
Victor Scicluna
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:03
I am not a Mintoff sympathiser myself but I won't let a foreigner abuse me, my country or any other Maltese. Mintoff has done good and bad but it is not for you to abuse especial when you are British and in the way you did it.
We Maltese have no grudges against any nationality we love foreigners especially British as you well know. Even back in those days we respected and love your country and Queens and Kings even though we were treated as second class citizens. We were abused by your country many times but this is not the story of only our country your country abused many under it's rule and still does. Many countries were left in economical ruins when the British left but thanks to Mintoff ours wasn't.
If you come to this country so that you can throw money at us to abuse us in this way please stop coming you aren't welcome here we don't need your charity nor your attitude. So many other beautiful Mediterranean countries to go and abuse but we do not need you
M Grima
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:24
Wow, please don't stop coming to Malta Mr. Saunders or else the Maltese will starve to death. You have the cheek to talk in such a manner after we fought your war at the expense of many Maltese deaths and the destruction after all the bombing we got. I have many British friends who have the opposite opinion of what you are stating. Do us a favour and stay home where you rightly belong.
Ross Stephen
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:28
Being half Brit and half welsh can I just say all your comments are offensive, Mintoff is dead he deserves respect in death and I am no labour support. 2ndly Malta would not sink with out British tourist - they would feel a small pinch may be. 3rdly it was a world war to which Malta was involved as the Italians wanted to rule it and you should be ashamed mocking the dead by saying it was uk war, the commonwealth as a whole gave their life's so people like you could knock em and have your say. Grow up, politics bring out the worst in people
Alexandra MalliaBorg
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:44
Well said Mr.Grima our sentiments exactly
Victor Scicluna
Aug 23rd 2012, 19:59
Mr. Ross Stephen the war might have come to Malta without British presence although Malta wouldn't have been that important for the Axis if there weren't any British forces on the island, as with Sicily the Axis could have controlled the Mediterranean and North Africa. I even think that we might have fought the British on the Italian side if it weren't under British rule in those days but thanks to God that did not happen. It was mainly thanks to Malta and the sacrifice we had to endure that helped the turning point in North Africa and with the end of the war there the second European front could start in Italy. So yes it was your war and after the devastation left you refused to aid us with the money that was rightfully ours with the Marshall Plan.
From the BBC website:
Hitler showed Malta no mercy and it has been estimated that the island was one of the most intensely bombed areas in the entire war - proportionately more bombs fell on Malta than did on the city of Coventry.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/ff4_siege_malta.shtml
Pat Hobson
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:18
@Victor Scicluna. Churchill was ready to hand us over to Mussolini to avert the war with Italy. But something went wrong, and we were kept under the British!
Nick Carter
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:43
I agree with Lesley Darmanin The British were not kicked out but left. From the independence onwards they ran down their forces and in fact wanted to run them down even more than the Government up to 1971 wanted. Why did this government want them to stay - to provide money and revenue so that the Island could - rightfully in my BRITISH opinion - stand on its own two feet without the need for British support. Both the British and Maltese knew that eventually the British base would be closed. Mintoff managed to extract more money while they were here. Remember he signed a deal for 7 years and then spent all his time being aggressive towards those who were paying the money. Hypocritical - maybe but then he was a great politician and hypocracy is a vital requirement for that!
C. Bezzina
Aug 23rd 2012, 21:56
Mr Saunders,
My father was in the British Service for a very long time, i can say there was time when he was very happy but to be promoted to very higher ranks he had to leave the country otherwise if you remain in Malta you had no chance to be promoted. But in Malta even Maltese people were abused by some British Inspectors in the service! Also let me remind you that Malta did not sink under Winston Church and will never do!
Frank Zahra
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:04
Mr. Saunders,
You seriously think that we Maltese, depend on you British people???? How wrong you are. If you have a look at our statistics, you would note that tourism in Malta is diversifying in a way that now we are welcoming tourists from all over the world, please note.
Please note as well that it is thanks to Mintoff that Malta opened itself to tourism and with its expansion Malta has managed to make sure that ones you were kicked out of Malta, chefs working with your army could find a job in new built hotels and so on and so forth.
You British and other close people close to you way back that time thought that once you were out of the island we should end up in poverty. Well as you can see we are still here and better than before. So better that you still some to us as you say.
By the way, if by any chance you decide not to come to Malta any more , you and the other ex-servicemen, we Maltese shall not lose any sleep, be assured.
Ian Ghirlando
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:35
Mr Saunders, your comments are uncalled for. You do not make them in the name of the British people. For the first time in years of reading the Times of Malta, I was compelled to write a riposte to your words. As someone who is half Scottish and half Maltese (origin), I feel that your comments are divisive and insulting to your holiday hosts. As visitors to the island it is not our place to make political comments, especially in an article about the death of a Prime Minister. Most Maltese and most British people have a warm and historical friendship. You can see the upset you have caused. Fortunately, I don't think you will spoil it for the rest of us.
V. DeBono
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:11
Thank you Mr. Saunders .... I'm now even more proud to be Maltese... I can't stop reading the beautiful replies you got... Some good Maltese patriotism I had been missing for a while... I need not add anything... Well said to all ( not you Mr.Saunders.. If you wouldn't mind )
John Benner
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:13
I have an English father and a Maltese mother , three years ago I applied for a Maltese passport , now I hold two passports for the two greatest countries in Europe and I am very proud of that .Nine years ago while on holiday in Malta a relation of mine took me to the Labour party headquarters while there I met Mr Mintoff and for about ten minutes we talked about Malta and the UK , when I asked him do you hate the British he told me his argument was always with the politicians , many of the institutions in Malta are based on those in the UK he said , no I don't hate the British . So this weekend is a time to give respect to a man who loved his country , who had a love hate relationship with the British , a relationship that both sides agree today things were done wrong , Malta stands strong within the EU ,and no matter how much we may disagree about the past the strongest ties of the Maltese people still lie with the UK and long may that be .
Mary Borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:24
How preposetrous of you to even think that we actually need your money to sustain our economy! As if yours if blooming into a superpower. Such arrogant behaviour is highly reminiscient of imperialist attitude. Of course, you, like many other Maltese blinded by their political blue spectacles, cannot see the whole picture. Gaining independence on paper is no independence at all. Having the British still holding legislative and authoritative power on the land telling us what to do in our country and snatching the best parts of our land turning them into no-go areas for Maltese while stating that our land is independent is sheer baffling mockery. I am sure had you been in our position, you would have expected the removal of such powers. Dom Mintoff had the guts and gonads to act on it without any shedding of blood unlike other countries under British rule that had to fight back for their freedom. As much as I love England, I can assure you that I am not passing any sleepless nights for you having left our country either.
Shaun Anthony Camilleri
Aug 24th 2012, 05:14
It's people like you that give some people a bad name. The Maltese did not kick the British out they just exchanged management. The Maltese in fact love the Queen as can be attested by the welcome she received when she visited. The British troops could have stayed if they were willing to pay the rent requested. The Maltese did not kick out the British but changed the décor as mentioned. I am British Maltese and when I was at school I was pelted with eggs in the street in Rochdale for being a little darker than the rest as well as called a Paki. No one forces you to come to Malta and no one will notice if you do not come either. I am sure you are one of those egg pelter types anyway. Do not think you are doing the Maltese a favour by coming here.
JJ Agius
Aug 24th 2012, 09:03
Sorry!Look what the Brits did to South Africa!I was in cape town & went to Robin Island(Mandelas Prison) Tour & places etc. I still cannot beleive how those people were treated as bad & if not more than the Jews under Hitler! Thank God in Malta they found Mintoff. No wonder Lord Carrington(Minister of Defence than) told me that Mintoff was one of the best P.M. at that time.Still you are a scotman ashamed to say you are English! If Mintoff was Scottish than;you could be happy saying Scottish people rule themselves as Maltese can say.I still respect the British but Malta first & foremost as Mintoff taught us. Regards you spend money in Malta so we Maltese spend a lot of money in the UK. What ever you say Mintoff was a big part of the Maltese History not like you & me .
J.J
m borg
Aug 24th 2012, 10:26
Without you we did a lot better at least it keeps our country away from such buggers asking for compensations to get another free holiday ;) At least we have no riots and disturbed teenage stabbers in the streets. Enjoy your Puki land.
Eve Axiaq
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:29
Staqsi ftit lir romol, ommijiet u pensjonanti ta dak iz zmien ara x'jghidulek. Min holoq l industrial estates u l'airmalta fejn ta spinta lit turizmu? Li tara lil Gonzipn irid jibqa fil poter immexxi min klikka mhuwiex ta dwejjaq?
Joe Portelli
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:27
Half of us may not have voted for him - but he is/was an ex Prime Minister , failrly elected by the system and the people of Malta and this should be remembered by the whole nation. Like all retired and dead politicians , they are not in the 'ring' anymore and certain critisms is uncalled for. To those that don't accept this, please remeber, what goes round comes around and thats no nice experience - only uncivilised people behave in such ways.
Mr J. Bonnici
Aug 23rd 2012, 22:07
'fairly elected by the system.'
U ddahhaqqniex Joe.
Mela nsejt kif Mintoff biddel id-distretti biex jisraq l-elezzjoni tal-1981? U seraqha kien, illum anke Joseph Muscat ammetta. 5 snin u tlett xhur ta' mizerja.Taqta' 18 il-xahar il-poplu ma avdax aktar il-Labour u ma nehohiex bi kbira jekk l-elezzjoni li gejja jerga' jitlifha ghax certi kummenti li qed naqraw qed jergghu iqajmu memorji koroh li ma nistghu ninsewhom qatt.
john muscat
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:22
Mr. John Borg,
Did the fact that when our late President Dr. Censu Tabone and Dr. Guido Demarco passed away, God rest their souls, who were also given a very the farewell they deserved by the nation also remind you of North Korea? Speak sense please, if you didn't like Mintoff you had a right to do so but please speak sense.
Lesley Darmanin
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:12
All this show in the streets goes to prove that despite all that Malta went through in the 70s and 80s under the despotic rule of Labour, we have learnt nothing. No wonder the PN only managed to scrape through the 1987 elections, despite those atrocious years of KMB. Labour will always be Labour. And here they are idolising a man who wreaked havoc on our country, destroyed thousands of lives and made Malta an international mockery. These Labour supporters have not changed. They are still there, clamouring for this man who bought off their votes through handouts and favours. If they had their way, they would like to have it all back again, just like it was under those degenerate Labour administrations. It is sad, very sad to see such scenes. And what is more, a very sad future lies ahead for Malta come the next election. It leaves you with such an empty feeling that such a large portion of the Maltese population continues to support, even glorify, the very person who trampled on our rights, on our livelihood, on our very dignity. How very very sad, and worrying.
Victor Laiviera
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:28
The usual exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies you have bee peddling for decades.
The Maltese people are giving you a clear signal that they have seen through and will; not believe you any more.
You can only fool the people for so long.
Eddie Vella
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:34
Lesley you should be ashamed of yourself let Mintoff rest in peace, And these people are saying goodbye to a giant who stopped poverty, and intoduced social welfare,If you happens to go to a bank with children allowance,a minimum wage, pension,etc you owe it to Mintoff. Or you want to be still ruled by forign people sucking our blood
David Bezzina
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:38
OH yes,what a terrible man.
Reading your comment,one would think that Adolf HItler or Idi Amin was ruling the country in the 80's.
In the 60's,we still had beggars on the streets,no money in the till and rampant poverty and stupidity.
Who gave Malta its welfare state,its large corporations and removed poverty from the island ?
And you say that he wreaked havoc.....with all his defects he left Malta with a 450,000,000 Maltese Liri in Maltese coffers.
Look at Malta today....all corporations sinking with debt and a national debt of 5 Billion Euros.Who wreaked havoc ?
One thing is for sure......that your one-sided and brain-washed way of thinking has not changed from back then.
Labour has changed and is your sheer arrogance of thinking that only the blue part of Malta is fit to govern.
Mintoff eradicated poverty.He had made some mistakes but who doesn't.He was only human.
M Grima
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:40
If you had one grain of respect for the dead you would just shut up Mr. Darmanin. If you want to see what a great man Mintoff was, switch on Super One TV ans see for yourself what Mintoff meant to the thousands who in the sweltering heat are paying their last tributes to the architect of modern Malta.
ALBERT FENECH
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:46
The solution lies in your own hands. There is a big world out there - Australia, the United States, Africa, Asia and even the Galapagos Islands. I fervently urge you to choose and go to one of these localities and this country will be well rid of you and people of your ilk. Afore you go I would just like to point out I disagree with you - the people of this country have fully learnt their lesson - how mistaken sectors of its population were and are in not having recognised the achievements of this great man.
ALBERT FENECH
M Grima
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:53
Remember Mr. Darmanin that the poison which you are trying to give us may also poison you in the process. Just go to Valletta this Saturday and see for yourself what the man meant to the Maltese.
B Agius
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:58
You and your views are a minority. Albeit one to be respected. So please show respect for others who do not share your views.
David Buttigieg
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:24
"You and your views are a minority."
Well, seeing that apart from a mere 22 month blip, the last time labour and definitely Mintoff won a majority was 36 long years ago, don't be too sure what a minority it is!
G Schembri
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:22
Mr Darmanin you have repeated all these lies over and over again, enlarging them with every repetition. So much so that you have started to believe them. What lives did Mintoff destroy? Can you please mention just one life that he really destroyed. The way the international media has described Mintoff after his death shows that not only did he not make a mockery of Malta, but he did us proud.
If anyone bought anyone's vote it was a those who won the last general election, after extending the time where there were large queues at closing time.
Mintoff never trampled on our rights, Mintoff never told the unions he did not have money to give workers a raise and then behind everyones back give himself and his regime a weekly raise of 600 euro.
Mary Borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:39
@ David Buttigieg: you are assuming that all PN supporters share your view. surprise, surprise, they don't. there were many nationalists on the streets today as well just as there were many labourites when Tabone died too because many don't fail to see the good in people too.
S. Calleja
Aug 24th 2012, 05:30
@ G. Schembri. How can you say that? I feel really upset reading "What lives did Mintoff destroy?". My wife's family really had it hard because her father was a teacher (and not a manual labourer). They could barely make ends meet during those days because of wage freezes. Mintoff did a lot for the working class, but brushed aside the professionals and educated, throwing them into misery like my wife's family back then. What's more, they even got shot at while at home one evening during the teachers' strike. Luckily the bullet did not hit anyone, but when my father-in-law reported it, the inspector asked him "was that because you striked, or because you did not?". This probably happened because he slipped a word against the government at work. Not to mention all the vacated properties that were stolen from families to give them through his housing program. Dak sew! You give things for free, and cause others to pay for it. Very fair indeed! Mintoff was not a government for all of Malta. He was a government for the working class. They admit it even themselves. That's not right. If you want to improve a country, you don't dismantle one section to build the other.
Malicia Dabrowicz
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:03
@H Stafrace/ John Borg
How about we allow people to mourn the way the want it? Without mockery, you know.
Joseph Mifsud
Aug 23rd 2012, 16:59
The Mintoff story is not over. They say he is a giant of Maltese politics. I say he is the Samsun of Maltese politics after what he had done in 1997 bringing down his own government. He destroyed the Temple on himself and his opponents the result of which is only begining to surface now on his death.
Malta's elit and the PN will regret Malta's entry in the EU while the PL will take all opportunities to re-develop Malta with EU help, and be free to apply EU laws the PN doesn't want to apply.
Thank you Dom you surely satisfied with what you've done.
Anthony A. Mifsud
Aug 23rd 2012, 16:38
Dear Dom, thank you. Go in peace
Tony
H Stafrace
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:15
Thank what?
H Stafrace
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:16
lets stop at Go. Shall we?
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Aug 23rd 2012, 16:31
B`SAHHTEK PERIT...............as we all present were accustomed to loudly utter with you as the very witty host there at L-GHARIX.............
B`SAHHTEK PERIT AS YOU NOW ROAM IN YOUR COSMIC & EVER ETERNAL FREEDOM.............
B`SAHHTEK PERIT AS YOUR SPIRIT HELPS GUIDE THIS OUR COUNTRY FROM ITS CONSTITUTIONILIZED CORRUPTION IT HAS PROFOUNDLY FALLEN INTO.....................................
B`SAHHTEK PERIT AS YOU ASSIST THIS ONCE BARE FORTRESS ROCK THEN TURNED INTO A FLOURISHING COMMERCIALLY-ORIENTED REPUBLIC UNDER YOUR RIGID GUIDANCE,NOW IMPOVERISHED YET AGAIN.......................
B`SAHHTEK PERIT AS WE WARMLY RECEIVED YOUR EVERLASTING ,DEEPLY-FELT & INGRAINED MESSAGE OF
MALTA L-EWWEL U QABEL KOLLOX..........................B`SAHHTEK PERIT INTO ETERNAL PEACE.
Peter Paul Borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:06
"Hear, hear".
A Vella
Aug 23rd 2012, 17:22
Sir even your name is a good indication of how much you're stuck in the past, no one in the developed world uses post nominal letters anymore.
Alfred Cassar
Aug 23rd 2012, 16:27
I think whether you approved or disliked the policies of this man, deep down in the hearts of all Maltese, for one reason or another, they can all say God save his Soul. May he Rest in Peace.
Neil Ellis
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:13
I certainly agree with that , whatever his policies and beliefs he was still a human . As an Englishman who visits and loves Malta and has many friends on your lovely island i wish him to rest in peace and for everyone else to live in it.
Steve Pace
Aug 24th 2012, 06:58
In that respect i totally agree with you as i commented elsewhere..
stephen mifsud
Aug 23rd 2012, 15:49
God Bless Dom Mintoff God Bless Dom Mintoff
H Stafrace
Aug 23rd 2012, 16:19
god bless what ?????
Nadia Camilleri
Aug 23rd 2012, 18:16
@ H Stafrace
Free education for everyone not only the rich
Free healthcare for everyone not only the rich
Free and decent houses for everyone not only the rich
Pensions, childrens' allowances and other social benefits for everyone not only the rich
Removal of slumps and beggars from our streets
Decent wages for those that wanted to work
Right of vote for women
He gave us pride and dignity, made us believe that even if we are such a tiny rock, we can still be called a nation that deserved respect even from the greatest of the super powers
You want more?
You only need to take a good look around you ... all you see was Mintoff's creation.
Yes God Bless Mintoff and his legacy ... Malta l-ewwel u qabel kollox ... for ever Amen.
R. Azzopardi
Aug 23rd 2012, 20:55
@Nadia Camilleri,
All that you have is true but do you know where the problem lay? These benefits (housing especially) were funding by ruthlessly seizing assets of the rich and not-so-rich. Help the poor by all means but not at the expense of fellow citizens who worked their butts off to purchase what they own. My parents had to get married 2 years before they were supposed to because their house was requisitioned. They were ordinary working folk who made huge sacrifices to buy a property. They were still very young so they left it vacant for a year and it was requisitioned. I'm going to be very blunt here. I will defend what is rightfully mine until my dying breath. I am not a charitable institution.
Mary Borg
Aug 23rd 2012, 23:41
don't waste your breath with this stafrace. he's just trolling!
S. Calleja
Aug 24th 2012, 05:52
@ Nadia. Trouble is, nothing is actually free and somebody had to pay for all that. And it wasn't the rich. It was the middle class. Mintoff gave a lot to the poor, but he achieved that by destroying the lives and dreams of many decent chaps whose only mistake in life was to be born in a middle class, educated family. I agree that poverty need to be eradicated, but I, like many others, believe that there were other means this could have been achieved, namely, through economic progress, like what happened in the rest of the developed world, and everybody would have won. Because of this, I don't think Mintoff was very imaginative, because he took the easy way out to solve things - destroy one part of Malta to fix the other, by force and violence. That is of course why he is such a divisive figure, and why people have such diametrically opposing views about him.
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