Puli suggests direct election of PN leader by party members
Former Parliamentary Secretary Clyde Puli has floated the idea of a direct election of the new PN leader by the members of the party.
The leader is currently elected by the members of the party’s National Council – some 800 people nominated by the various party committees.
However, writing on facebook, Mr Puli said the party needed to not only be close to the people, but be the party of the people, open to all those who wished to contribute towards a common ideal.
He therefore suggested the holding of a Congress of Party Members for a more open method of electing the party leader.
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matthew tanti
Mar 14th, 21:58
u zgur li simon jrid illi jkunu -kunsilliera li jivvutaw ghaliex kienu l-istess nies li ghazlu lilu u li jekk jikkontesta ghall-kap jergghu jaghzlu lilu.
mark borg
Mar 14th, 20:37
How about Claudette Pace for your leader ? she could be the next Margaret Tatcher ! you never know unless you try !
Frank Zammit
Mar 14th, 20:25
Mr. Seychell you are wrong. A new LABOUR PARTY LEADER will be elected by the paid party members. The idea was suggested by the President of the PL club Marsascala supported by the committee of the same club. For the record this was the one that was accepted by the General Conference of the Party. Dr Abela suggested a different method which was turned down by the GENERAL CONFERENCE of JUNE 2008
Tony Scicluna
Mar 14th, 19:52
People, this is a time for reflection. Let's bring new ideas, and most of all let's do this constructively. In my honest opinion the two heads (Kap and vici kap) should be Chris Said and Mario DeMarco. They are both credible, hard working and intelligent. PN needs them badly. Ann Fenech too.
A. MICALLEF
Mar 15th, 16:10
Both Demarco and Chris Said are responsable for the election fiasco. They were decision
makers and they made all the bad decisions which resulted to the historic fiasco. Veru
tajbin dawn it-tnejn, tinsewx izzidu wkoll lil Beppe Fenech Adami, u veru tigu partit tal-
"Carry On"
H Darmanin
Mar 14th, 19:49
L-idea daqs kemm hi valida tista tkun daqs hekk iehor perikoluza......!
K Psaila
Mar 14th, 19:28
Party leader should be elected by the party members and not by the few so as to avoid past results. New faces new chapter.
Joseph Camilleri
Mar 14th, 19:09
Someone mentioned the onoraria! what the heck? it is worse now because there is a ministry for every member of parliament and also a p s for every tom dick and harry. Just make the calculations and check, we were better of when we were worse. Typical lejber tricked into believing them, not me I did not and never will.
Norman E Grech
Mar 14th, 18:49
We're ok with that Clyde, as long as YOU are not the one elected!
Melvyn Mifsud LLD
Mar 14th, 18:44
I agree fully. For the PN to bounce back, we need someone new - chosen by one and all.Including paid up members. I also would opt for the opinion of those who are not paid up members. Widening the opinion - even if only in an advisory role.
We need to listen to one and all -even those who are not Party members or even those who voted us out this time.
New leaders only will put us back on track.
mark borg
Mar 15th, 06:30
I agree fully.For the PN to bounce back ....ha ha ha and Bounce back it did indeed, last Sunday !
A Cachia
Mar 14th, 18:43
Puli should contest for Deputy leader!
J Fiott
Mar 14th, 18:35
I agree with this proposal. I would add that the members of the executive committee should be directly elected by the party members too. The candidates seeking election on the PN ticket and the electoral program should be approved by the party members as well.
Direct democracy has come of age. Online voting is fairly easy to implement.
ANTHONY PAVIA
Mar 14th, 18:45
Yes I am in complete agreement. Finally, Puli has hit the jackpot.
fred sammut
Mar 14th, 18:28
the party need not to lie to ppl
the party need not to send un realastic promises
the party men does not need to take €500 behind close doors
the party has to admit that PL did at least 1 single thing good
the party needs to be proud of all Public Holidays
the party needs to listen
etc etc etc
carmel taliana
Mar 14th, 17:00
I agree thats how it should be so that he would be best known by everyone.
Michael Seychell
Mar 14th, 16:47
This suggestion was made by Dr. G. Abela when he was contesting for the MLP Leadership, however his suggestion was turned down by the general conference of the MLP.
Clyde's suggestion has first to be proposed to the P.N. Executive, and if approved will be put on the P.N.'s National Council which is composed by around 900 Councillors for their approval or rejection.
Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta
Mr nicholas saliba
Mar 14th, 16:42
mal-mebri li jivvuttaw ghandhom jivvuttaw ukoll ghal-inqas it-tesserati li huma ghal ghomrom
Henry S Pace
Mar 14th, 16:37
Vox populi vox Dei - The voice of the people is the voice of god
Henry S Pace
Mar 14th, 16:31
It ;looks quite normal. When the going was good , nobody raised his finger .
Now each and ever former minister is speaking up, surprisingly.
The former Ministers and Parlaimentary secretaries are now trying to save their face.
STOP, stop and ponder deeply.
C Chircop
Mar 14th, 16:10
I would prefer a more structure type: preliminary voting through the Party members (excluding Councillors) and a 3-strong shortlist to undergo a Councillors' vote. The final weighting of votes would be split between the paid members & Councillors. E.g. 40% for paid members' vote in preliminaries, 60% for Councillors' vot. . Important: PN media is to be made equally available to ALL candidates
Lino Camilleri
Mar 14th, 16:07
Yes I agree to involve the party members in the process of selecting a leader but when you involve too many people, you tend to lose the real objective. This fora could be useful to scrutinise all potential candidates and any doubts highlighted. Every candidate has to promote himself and present a detailed plan of where he wants to take the party and how to achieve it. Let's be wise this time.
Shaun Anthony Camilleri
Mar 14th, 16:02
I nominate Dr. Mario De Marco for the leadership of the PN.
Edward Camilleri
Mar 14th, 17:40
It's one of the best options available, he is really intelligent , moderate and can bring back all those that were hurted in a way.
Tony Scicluna
Mar 14th, 19:46
Mario and Chris Said
Alfred Vassallo
Mar 15th, 13:09
I consider this man as a part of the Klikka or at least he knew very well what was going on.
Nazzareno Cortis
Mar 14th, 15:51
Puli
Simon Busuttil this morning on TV ---when asked by the presenter about this same issue --stated clearly that at this point in time---such a suggestion cannot be put into practice!!!
A Cuschieri
Mar 14th, 16:20
I heard the same thing and apparently the timings the problem. In my opinion, if we really want to rebuild the PN to it's deserved glory, we should bypass the rules and take the necessary action even if it means delaying the leadership election by some time.
Jekk ha naghmlu xi haga, jew naghmluha sew jew xejn. Timings can be sorted out - with the right will to do so.
Jes Farrugia
Mar 14th, 17:24
Naqbel mieghek perfettament A Cuschieri. Jekk l-istatut huwa skadut ghandu jinbidel, il-partit mhux tal-kunsielliri biss jew ta xi ndividwu. Il-kap u l-vici kap tal partit ghandhom jintazlu minn dawk li kienu tesserati qabel l-ahhar elezzjoni generali.
SIMON BUGEJA
Mar 14th, 15:45
nahseb li l-ewwel pass li ghandu jghamel il-partit huwa li jiehu l-idejat tat-tesserati kolla biex ikun jaf xi jhossu n-nies u verament ikun qed jisma lill kullhadd.l-amministrazzjoni prezenti m`ghandiex terga tikkontesta specjalment Simon Busuttil li rredikola l-Partit bil kliem gas down gol hajt.jaf li qieghdin fit 2013.l-elazzjoni ghal kap ghanda ssir bejn it tesserati u mhux fil kunsill.
S Zammit
Mar 14th, 15:58
Naqbel ma Clyde u mieghek mija fil mija. It tesserati ghandom jinghataw aktar cans . Mux biex ihallsu it tessera biss qedin. Bix xieraq li tinstema il karba tahhom ukoll.
Alfred Muscat
Mar 14th, 17:14
Tajjeb Hafna, jekk hem bzonn Dr. Gonzi jibqa acting sakemm issir xi haga bil-ghaqal. Qattusa ghaggielija taghmel frieh ghomja.
m farrugia
Mar 14th, 15:38
prosit puli - followed you on debates, you always very ably explained pn's great achievement whilst at the same time very constructively criticising labour's mistakes, including the recent appt of head of civil service.Go for it- contest leadership post - as leaders we need people who did their best even when pn was in difficulty not those who shyed away & then appeared in press after election
Kenrick Aquilina
Mar 14th, 15:35
Naqbel 100% imma wkoll il-partit irid johloq kummissjoni li torganizza laqghat fil-kazini ghax nemmen li hawn hafna membri li ghandom ideat tajbin x joffru lill Partit biex jimxi l quddiem, umbad wara jsir dan il-kungress li l partit kien diga organizza xi haga simili tieghu fis-70's
May Cassar
Mar 14th, 15:30
All those who are members (tesserati) should have the opportunity to vote for the leadership of the party. after all it is the members who will be asked to vote for the NP leader at the next election. Start off by listening to your members as a first step towards reaching out to all those who have the Nationalist party at heart.
A Cuschieri
Mar 14th, 15:25
Nahseb jekk isir hekk ikun messagg car ta kemm il-Partit irid jerga jkun il-partit tan-nies. Naqbel 100% ma dak li qed jipproponi Clyde Puli anke ghaliex fl-ahhar mill-ahhar huma dawk il-votanti u tajjeb li jkunu jistghu jesprimu l-opinjonijiet taghhom - specjalment wara disfatta bhal m'ghadu kemm ghadda minnha l-PN.
David Magro
Mar 14th, 14:58
Li ghamel Joseph jidher li hu tajjeb ghal PN...hekk tajjeb prosit u mela tmaqdru dejjem....forsi fl-ahhar f`dan il-pajjiz nitghallmu.
Michael Seychell
Mar 14th, 16:58
Mr Magro Joe Muscat was approved by the Party's delegates and not the general members. Note also that G.Abela; Evarist; M.Falzon & Coleiro Preca, complained in the local media that Joseph was elected Leader with the support of the 'Party Machine' - actually using different words.
Michael Seychell
Alfred Cassar
Mar 14th, 17:54
you're completely wrong David, Joseph did not do this
David Magro
Mar 15th, 06:35
Att Mike & Alfred...read well...what Puli said is very similar to what Joseph said. YourPN will need to go through changes that the PL went through....he listened to the people and adopted what the people said. You need to get your party to change the old connections....up you you my friends.
Adrian E. Camilleri
Mar 14th, 14:53
I would tend to favour such an idea. A referendum to choose the new Party Leader, and why not the Deputy too? We shall then have the leaders the majority of the PN members opt for. Great initiative.
B. Cachia
Mar 14th, 14:52
I have nothing to do with Mr Puli, but I've set up a facebook page in favour of this idea, which people who support it may wish to 'like':
https://www.facebook.com/pages/For-the-election-of-the-next-PN-leader-by-all-party-members/269682266499302?fref=ts
M Borg
Mar 14th, 16:51
Had you followed TVam you would have saved yourself a lot of trouble.
S.Busuttil said that as things stand the way of voting cannot be changed.
B. Cachia
Mar 14th, 19:47
Nothing is impossible, where there is a will.
mario salnitro
Mar 14th, 14:31
Just copy Joseph it is easier and the final result showed for it self.
B. Cachia
Mar 14th, 14:30
An excellent idea whose time has come.
Anthony Mercieca
Mar 14th, 14:18
Fully agreed, it is high time genuine members of the party would participate. Such should be done in a way that participants should at least be party members for 1 year before leader and officials elections are held. Membership should be endorsed by a specific committee to avoid manipulators in the run off for such party elections.
A. Mercieca
carmel cassar
Mar 14th, 14:17
With you all the way.
Stephen Apap
Mar 14th, 14:13
I agree, the voice of more people must be heard making the election even more democratic
Dennis Zammit
Mar 14th, 14:12
VERY GOOD idea.
Most party committee members especially those from PN Clubs have been in place for too many years with most of them fully tied to an MP and solely fully dedicated to that MP or candidate.
Most of them are NO WHERE to be found during the election process and DO NOT ever help or offer real help . . . they are too busy with their 'ZIEMEL'.
Many helpers are UNKNOWN to the system.
Alfred Muscat
Mar 14th, 17:16
Issa ilqat il-musmar fuq rasu. Mhux biss imma uhus minnhom sabu ruhoim ma' xi ministru bla hadd kien jafhom
James Vella Clark
Mar 14th, 14:11
I fully agree. The sudden mushrooming of facebook pages by separate groups of people pushing one candidate or the other is already sending out the wrong message and as it stands, the one elected will only be for that faction who pushed for his appointment. The trickiest part of it all now is making sure the right people will be contesting.
Mary Rose Azzopardi
Mar 14th, 14:06
very good idea - I think it's the way forward.
Jason Zammit
Mar 14th, 14:06
i totaly agree with Clyde....ths would be the1st step towards the great PN revolution ....Prosit Clyde
Victor Calleja
Mar 14th, 13:53
Not practical. It shows the number of paid members of the party. There might be surprises.
SIMON BUGEJA
Mar 14th, 15:47
so what. issa huwa z-zmien li jissiehbu Nazzjonalisti Ta Vera.
Tarcisio Bonello
Mar 14th, 13:53
Hear Hear !! - A Breath of Fresh Air, Prosit Clyde - I will vote for you should you contest Party Leadership. The PN needs new blood and a young leadership, We don't want to see any more dinosaurs from the preceding PN legislature that is surrounded by controversy. The party needs to prepare and be ready for the next election ASAP.
ps. The Other Posts should also use your suggested method
P. Ciantar
Mar 14th, 13:49
I agree this is inovative, not even Labour had the courage to do this last time round even if it was suggested by George Abela in the labour leadership race.
Maria Spiteri
Mar 14th, 15:42
It's not...check the PL's statute. Joseph Muscat implemented this as soon as he was elected.
Kevin Caruana
Mar 14th, 13:43
I think its a good idea - after all the leader needs to be liked and respected by the many not the few. Also those disgruntled Nationalists will have the opportunity to contribute towards what thet thought needed fixing feel part of the process again.
And if not for nothing, its good revenue generation as many would be interested in joining as members so as to have a say in the mater.
Henry S Pace
Mar 14th, 13:43
Stop . Stop and ponder deeply
Chi spesso parla , Spesso falla'
M Grima
Mar 14th, 13:37
The guy is finally coming to his senses. His smirk has finally been replaced by a look of concern. He must be asking himself how he can lure back the thousands of nationalists who voted with Labour. He must be questioning his own pitiful performance in front of the TV cameras where he had repeatedly tried to make fun of the opposition. Take a leaf out of Labour and try to be positive.
Joseph Apap
Mar 14th, 13:33
The NP can first have elections in the towns and villages to elect or renominate the delegates thereafter the 800 or so delegates should be in a position to elect a new leader, Deputyy Leader and Secretary of the Part.
Possibly the Secretary should not be an MP.
Also the hitting below the belt by some NP MPs should stop immediately
Dennis Zammit
Mar 14th, 15:08
Well said.
Hold Laqghat Generali in the sezzjonijiet (Kazini) IMMEDIATELY to clear old moulded members who are justb there to be there.
Furthermore, the Secretary General SHOULD NOT be an MP . . . he would be too busy taking care of his seat in Parliament.
M Grima
Mar 14th, 13:31
"Mr Puli said the party needed to not only be close to the people, but be the party of the people, open to all those who wished to contribute towards a common ideal."
It took Mr. Puli quite a while to realise that the party belongs to the people just like the country belongs to the people. And because the country belongs to the people they have wholeheartedly and massively voted out the PN.
Norman E Grech
Mar 14th, 18:56
Well said!! Hehehe
J Micallef
Mar 14th, 13:31
Yes, finally.
PN always ready to criticise how PL do things, yet the election of top brass in the PN is made by the clique...
So this is the way to go.
Joseph Apap
Mar 14th, 18:46
It is done in the same way within the Labour Party
twanny borg
Mar 14th, 13:30
naqbel mija fil-mija.
Paul Micallef
Mar 14th, 13:27
Who wants to bet, as GONZI said before the election, moru IL-LAGHABU limhatri, that Demarco will be the next Pn leader????
Stephen farrugia
Mar 14th, 13:21
An interesting proposal which probably needs a change in statute. This is the way forward if a real change has to happen in the PN.
C Falzon
Mar 14th, 13:13
hahaha kemm ghajruh il Labour Party ghax ghamel kungress. Ara fiex gew!!!!
Kenrick Aquilina
Mar 14th, 15:32
il-Pn kien diga organizza kungressi Simili fis-70's
twanny borg
Mar 15th, 01:28
@c.falzon il-pl ma ghamilx kungress biex jahtar it-tmexxija.
John Zammit
Mar 14th, 13:10
This is in the same Line with the PL new statute as amened
Mario Zammit
Mar 14th, 13:08
It's long overdue that party members (tesserati) should express their vote in similar instances. Inclusion is the name of the game that would guarantee transperency.
V. Cauchi
Mar 14th, 13:07
This guy has good ideas. He can at least think out of the box. What is now needed is an extension of the 3-month period to provide further room for ground-breaking thought.
Mr Mike Farrugia
Mar 14th, 13:03
Not a bad idea.
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