Ministry defends bus fares structure after EU complaint
The Transport Ministry insisted this evening that Malta has repeatedly informed the European Commission that bus fares in Malta are not based on nationality but
on residence and therefore they do not breach the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
"Furthermore, Malta has emphasised that the bus service reform, including the
proportionate nature of the fares, is justified under EU law as it is part of a larger policy by Malta aimed at the objective of addressing congestion and health problems."
The ministry was reacting to a report in The Sunday Times that the EU has given notice of actions against Malta over alleged discriminatory bus fares.
In a statement, it said:
"With more than 300,000 licensed vehicles, Malta’s traffic congestion equates to 884 vehicles per square kilometre (by far the highest rate in the EU27 where the second highest rate is in the Netherlands at 244 vehicles per square kilometre, compared to an EU average of 69 vehicles per square kilometre) and 112 vehicles per kilometre of road (also by far the highest rate in the EU27 where the second highest rate is in Italy at 81 vehicles per kilometre of road, compared to an EU average of 10 vehicles per kilometre of road).
"The Household Travel Survey carried out in 2010 shows that only 15% of local trips are made using public transport, while 74.6% are made by private car; the percentage of trips by public transport between 1989 and 2010 fell by 42.9%.
"Moreover, qualitative research shows that 62.4% of existing bus users are bus-dependant, meaning that for economic, health or age reasons they cannot own or drive their own car and, therefore, use public transport out of necessity.
"In order to put the new fares into perspective, it is pertinent to note that the full rate (charged to non-residents), effective from 3 July 2011, is €2.60 for a day ticket or €12.00 for a 7-day ticket, either one allowing the holder unlimited travel on all bus services on the island of Malta.
"This makes it significantly cheaper than almost any other EU Member State.
"Malta has argued that departure from the current subsidised fares would, in a best case scenario, lead to no, or insignificant, growth in bus patronage. In a worst case scenario, it would likely result in a continuation of the trend of declining bus usage which has developed over the past 40 years."
The Ministry reiterated that the differentiated fare scheme, which is based on residence and not on nationality, is an essential component of the bus transport reform which has the objective of bringing about a modal shift from private to public transport, thereby positively contributing to Malta’s environment, health, air quality and quality of life.
"Malta considers that such a scheme is, therefore, not only necessary for the well being of its residents, but has been implemented in a proportionate manner which is in line with EU legislation. The Government is in discussion with the European Commission on the dossier," the ministry said.
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ROBERT HIDE
Feb 12th, 20:33
More wasted time and money caused by stupid EU rules and regulations !
Ms. P.M Graham
Feb 12th, 18:32
"Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union."
Makes interesting reading.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2010:083:0047:0200:en:PDF
Article 10
In defining and implementing its policies and activities, the Union shall aim to combat discrimination based on sex, racial or ethnic origin, religion or belief, disability, age or sexual orientation.
James Dewar
Feb 12th, 17:51
You simply can not defend the indefensible!
Tom Broadley
Feb 12th, 15:18
Can i please put my name forward for top job at the ministry of transport so i can sort out this farce, after all if Peter Andre can clinch the cultural ambassador's job there sure is hope for me.
mary kelly
Feb 12th, 16:09
Why do tourist have to pay more I been to Ireland , UK I was never asked if I was a tourist or not I payed the standard Fare only in Malta I say
JIMMY ATANASIO
Feb 12th, 16:48
i am with you mary.why do tourists have to pay more.i live in canada and have been on very a many trips all over the world,and not once did i have to pay more than the locals.it's plain greed on the goverment and the bus owners.that simple
Kieron O'connor
Feb 12th, 14:02
Who do you think is paying for the lower subsidised fare currently available only to "Residents"?
Every tax payer on the island whether you use the bus or not pays for the cost of the subsidised lower fare, so dont fool yourself thinking foreigners (oops i mean non-residents) should pay more, the reality is everyone pays more!
Mr Peter Korsten
Feb 12th, 13:34
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Nice to compare Malta to the Netherlands, but there are large swaths of the Netherlands that are largely empty. From my office, I can see about 2/3rds of Malta, and there are very few empty spaces.
The problem is a totally inadequate road system. Too many roundabouts and no redundancy.
Lee Micallef
Feb 12th, 12:35
European harmony ! ha
The worst thing Malta ever did was join the EU and the sooner the UK have a referendum and get out the better then others may take note and follow suit ! Then we can all have our own laws once again and not listen to the fools in brussels !
Joseph Bartolo
Feb 12th, 12:28
Having to show your ID card on a bus is itself discriminatory!
Its almost as bad as the ETC job seeker website, where, in order to register as a job seeker, you need to specify your status - Married, Divorced, Separated, etc. !!!! What has your status got to do with seeking a job?
I actually complained anonymously about this to the Data Protection Commissioner, but to no avail!
C Cassar
Feb 12th, 11:11
The fares should be made the same but at the higher rate currently charged to non-residents. Even at that rate it is incredibly cheap. €12 per week? - you won't find anything close to that in any other European city.
Peter Murray
Feb 12th, 12:14
Neither will you find wages here close to that in any other European city!Also is was stated here that our bus fares were "almost" the lowest in the EU-what country has the lowest and how many are lower than ours?
Francis Raeymaekers
Feb 12th, 11:11
Sadly, all this adds to the perception that Malta is fast becoming a grubby little rock in the southern Med, rife with discrimination and obtuse in logic. There can be little doubt that Maltese DNA is based on "cut your nose to spite your face". It's time Malta looked in the mirror and saw its real reflection and not its perceived image.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:04
couldnt agree more - wake up wee island and smell the pastizzi
Johan van Driel
Feb 12th, 11:09
There is no direct discrimination in Other European countries with regard to bus or train fares. Indirectly however locals travel cheaper than tourists. In the Netherlands for instance one can buy bus/train ID cards valid for one year which entitles the holder to 40% discount on all trips. It is obvious that tourists are excluded from this system. Malta could do something similar.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:05
to be honest it really is irrelevant that its indirect or direct - it is still DISCRIMNATION
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Feb 12th, 17:47
When in London, I buy the Oyster card which gives you cheaper trips on all forms of transport. I ws never asked whether I am a resident or not.
J M
Feb 12th, 11:00
Maltese do pay higher fares in other countries public transport in those cities which have decided to give cheaper public transport fares to people who live in the city in question IF they are not resident in the city.
This whole issue is confused by the fact that other countries give residence based discounts on a city-by-city basis and Malta is so small that the whole country is like one city.
R. Lewis
Feb 12th, 10:55
According to what is said above the prices will definately go up then so less people use their cars.If the system was punctual one would not complain especially 20 months later. Last Sunday Bus 42 C'Kewwa/Valletta should have been in Mosta at 1111 but arrived at 1140 (the one before that was at 1011) dak servizz.Bendybuses should have tkt conductors available to help with 150 people on board.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:07
am sure if we all used the buses everyone would get to work on time...NOT......it does beg the question how does the bus driver get to work...on time...or maybe he doesnt and that starts the rot. An acquaintance of mine said recentlt that the last time he used a bus was to go and buy his car.....says it all really.
Ivory White
Feb 12th, 10:50
Whenever I have gone to other European countries the public transport fare was always the same. I highly consider this as an act of discrimination.
Mario Muscat
Feb 12th, 11:19
You haven't travelled enough in the EU. You should try Poland, Lithuania, latvia..... Besides, in the UK there are 3 prices if you want to study in some universities. One for UK residents, one for EU and one for worldwide. I'm sure this happens in other countries too. Talk about discrimination!!!!
Ian James
Feb 12th, 11:59
Yes and when getting across London we can all pay as much for 2 stops as a tourist pays to go the whole length of Malta! Everything is relative so stop moaning when you have such a value for money service.
Peter Murray
Feb 12th, 13:02
Mario Muscat you cavalierly forgot to mention that the UK residents fees are substantially higher than the others as foreign students are subsidised.
Chris Tuckley
Feb 12th, 10:33
I was speaking to a travel agent friend the other day, they are now selling Malta as an all inclusive holiday, this is because of the bus fares. Tourist who pay all inclusive stay within walking distance of there hotel, no longer taking a bus to lets say Rabat , Therefore revenue which would go to a cafe,bar, etc in Rabat or any souvenirs they would purchase.The hotel are the only winners
Mario Muscat
Feb 12th, 11:15
You must be joking!!! The price of a one week bus ticket for tourists in Malta is the same for a 20 min journey in the UK!!!! OMG
Pauline Thompson
Feb 12th, 10:26
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti - as I stated earlier it's irrespective of the distance - the problem is charging non Maltese more for the same journey - therefore whether it's one stop or six EVERYONE is charged the same fare. Where I live doesn't matter but if you must know, yes, short trips are expensive, and they are expensive for EVERYONE.
cesco di luigi
Feb 12th, 10:22
I Lived and worked in Sweden, Germany, Austria, Belgium and always paid the same as the locals even when just visiting. By the way the system in ALL of these countries is in a much higher class (in particular regarding timing and puncauality) than the much vaunted local version of Arriva who always come up with flimsy excuse, like closing the emergency door cos of cheats! Tell it to the marines!
Patrick Vella
Feb 12th, 10:21
Can anybody reply to this question please - Why is Gozo left out of the equation ? ...and if anybody thinks that it is - well think twice - try buying a ticket from Malta (resident or not) and using it in Gozo ! hahaha and then see the reaction that you receive ! No - in Gozo you HAVE to buy a separate ticket valid only in Gozo...so residents and non-residents are paying a double day fare !
Malcolm Mizzi
Feb 12th, 10:14
Any discriminatory laws.
John Dee
Feb 12th, 10:14
So obviously discriminatory that one wonders why the TM refuses to admit it!
You have to chuckle at all the usual "I am Maltese and I deserve special treatment" claims which seem to refuse to accept the importance of foreign visitors to this little rock. (No doubt I will now get the normal"go home we don't want you" response).
Ms. P.M Graham
Feb 12th, 10:13
"the bus fares are “locked in” for 10 years."
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120404/local/Arriva-explains-why-it-pays-to-use-the-bus.414078
Bus fares will be locked for 3 years"
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20101107/local/higher-bus-fares-for-tourists.335010
"Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into!" (Laurel and Hardy)
Mark. Galea
Feb 12th, 09:57
I completely agree with the system. I pay taxes in Malta, so I have a lower fare. If this is not the case, then our fares would be higher. If a foreigner wants to reside in Malta, use the ID card. If not, just go back to your country of origin, where the system is "better".
Mr Tony Gatt
Feb 12th, 10:41
Good on you Mark. We Maltese aren't xenophobic- just don't like foreigners!
John Dee
Feb 12th, 10:51
Good thinking Mark. Bring out the donkeys and carts again, because there is no tourist or expat money coming in under your plans. Close the hotels and most of the bars. Double the 'bus fares - at least you'll be guaranteed a seat!
Peter Murray
Feb 12th, 12:59
No one claimed it is better -just more fair and just.-other names for democratic
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:12
ask ARMs if the id card is proof of residency mate - their answer is a resounding NO...unlike Arriva - and just who governs these two entities - hmmmm hard one that - you cannot be resident with in one entity and not be resident in another - another farce of the highest order,,
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:14
a great idea Mr Galea - clearly and advisor to AG - alienate the tourirst and the ex pat community - good old johnny foreigner good for the money but nothing else. well its time for the piper to be paid....
jason thorley
Feb 12th, 20:11
I find your attitude completely unchristian Mark.Read article 10(If you can) its blindingly clear that this Arriva fare farce is discriminating against fellow EU residents. Admit it, sort it and move on.Or not and pay the huge fine that will be levelled by the EU. I would also like to point out that a whole load of "foreign EU member state" taxes have gone to Malta already,you want more? Greedy!!!
Kevin Fenech
Feb 12th, 22:42
Totally agree Mark. I reside in Australia and I believe that on my wage 12 euro per week is nothing to spend on a week’s travel. I can’t get to the next town in Australia for this small amount of money. Why should I enjoy subsidised bus fares when it is the locals who are paying the tax and keeping the busses on the road?
Ray Woods
Feb 12th, 09:36
There are more important things than just price in attracting people to public transport for example - reliability, safety, journey times - all of the things that Arriva has failed on....
David Calleja
Feb 12th, 11:10
@ James Micallef - you're talking rubbish - I travel regularly to London, have bought an oyster card (and can return it for the deposit made) - and just use it normally like ANYONE else in London - I have yet to find an automated machine that asks me to identify my country of residence / nationality / etc ... why comment when you evidently don't know how the system works?
Ray Woods
Feb 12th, 09:32
EU will argue that however you dress it up, its effect is discriminatory. The Maltese do not pay higher fares in other countries and we are all citizens of the EU aren't we? Next stop water and electricity. Malta wants EU money but doesn't want to play by the rules.
James Micallef
Feb 12th, 10:19
For London underground, residents can use Oyster which automatically charges cheapest possible fare, not always possible with regular ticket. AFAIK Oyster has one-off fee and requires UKaddress to register, so yes, Maltese DO pay higher fees in other countries. As long as it's by residence not by nationality it doesn't break EU rules
JJ Valletta
Feb 12th, 11:37
@James Micallef: Can you please check your facts before declaring your idiocity:
a) Everyone can buy an oyster card
b) In fact, you can order it online and get it posted to Malta
http://visitorshop.tfl.gov.uk/oystercard/product/oyster-card.html
There's nothing to discuss, you pay whatever that country charges - some are expensive (e.g Norway) and some are cheaper (e.g Uganda) - that's life!
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:16
not just EU money Ray woods - OUR MONEY as EU tax payers in our home countries.....and a large contributor to this countries economy
P Mangion
Feb 12th, 09:28
"in a best case scenario, lead to no, or insignificant, growth in bus patronage." this meaning that even before the inglorious system was launched, figures showed that albeit the millions being spent (or squandered) there would be no increase the patronage. Isnt this squandering of public funds??? The auditor general should seriously look into this matter!!!!
Lawrence Hallett
Feb 12th, 09:08
you only needed an id card to get the cheaper fare the id card was nothing to do with residence. mr.gatt is once again in the soup, and definitely not victory kitchen soup
M Borg
Feb 12th, 09:23
well to get an ID card one has to live in Malta so it seems that your soup will reamin empty in this case !
If you are British I am sure you realise that bus fares in Malta are a joke when compared to what you pay back home.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:21
actually M Borg-id cards do not prove you live or are resident here-you dont even have to live here-as many of your malti expat who live elsewhere would testify (albeit illegally)-i know quite a few who are not resident here but they still use their id cards-expired ones....and get the lower fares-not tomention they would get them anyway without even showing a card, coz they speak and look malti
M Grima
Feb 12th, 09:07
There we go again, the Ministry is always right and the European Union is wrong. Come the 9th March the electorate will put an end to this arrogance!!
Maryanne Spiteri
Feb 12th, 10:02
So Come 9th March the Ministry will be always wrong and the EU always right? Great defenders of the nation you are...
M Grima
Feb 12th, 09:06
GonziPN has ridiculed this country with the umpteenth gaffe in the interpretation of EU Law. But, what is even more annoying is that no one from the ministry is accountable for this mess. The Minister himself, Dr. Austin Gatt should assume political responsibility of this latest fumble and resign.
Oops, sorry I have uttered the dreaded word!!!
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:22
would that word be responsibility.....
John Cundy
Feb 12th, 08:24
I think it may be useful if a financial statement was produced that showed how much subsidy was made to residents compared to overall profits made. Another exercise could be to produce some alternative model projections. (Sorry I'm not an accountant and maybe used the wrong words but Arriva and the Govt could show these things for better understanding along with alternative pricing projections.)
Lawrence Fenech
Feb 12th, 08:16
Il-buzullotti ta' L' Arriva ma jispiccaw qatt wara il-milljuni li intefqu fuq dawn il-busses second hand. Kull fejn tiltaqa' mahhom trid tnaqqas u iccedi specialment meta jikkwartjaw minn side street. Fejn jaqbillu il-gvern ma toghogbux l'opinjoni ta' l' EU.
Alexander Hilton
Feb 12th, 07:20
I am still of the humble opinion that an Arriva Bus Driver is no government official, warden or the Police and therefore he has no right to ask for my Personal ID. It is nobodies business when I ride a bus if I am resident or not, what Nationality I am or if in deed I had proper bowel movement in the morning. I would have taken a bus when appropiate, but I am not due to this crap.
Jay Oatmon
Feb 12th, 08:12
I agree completely - having to use an ID to ride a bus is annoying and ridiculous.
The government stance may be plausible but the net effect is discrimination, and no matter how it is explained (and how much wriggle room there is) in the end it is discrimination.
Stuart McNeil
Feb 12th, 08:39
Excellent comment and so very true.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 08:52
these people know no shame...!!!!! disgraceful discrimination....
Alfie Lewis
Feb 12th, 09:22
I agree with you 100%. I am telling the Ministry that they are not saying the truth. I am married to an Asian women and the drivers
always ask my wife for the ID , WHEN i am with her I tell her,not to show her ID to driver I challenge them to call the police ,because only to them I show my ID or to the bank So MR. ministry it has nothing to do with residence but how once face looks.
Maryanne Spiteri
Feb 12th, 09:58
So many comments from people with British surnames when we know so well that the British are ID -card phobic. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. if Britain had introduced an ID system it would be a safer place with much less identity theft etc
Maryanne Spiteri
Feb 12th, 10:00
You have every right not to show the ID card. But then pay the full fare without benefiting from the resident discount. Simple, no? You wouldn't go to your local Asda and expect the discount without presenting the food coupons...
Matthew Grima
Feb 12th, 11:29
Agreed, why can't one get a bus card that can only be given to residents?
David Willow
Feb 12th, 16:25
@maryanne spiteri - obviously malti or maybe from Texas... - we shall, see how you feel when they impose a biometric id card to hold all manner of data on you- where is your privacy then...they have no rights for this.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 07:02
Is it really healthy and safe to cram 95 people standing on a bendy bus - yeah right - i dont think so - at the speeds the buses are driven .....is that really quality of life.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 06:58
You will be telling us next the high costs of registering cars, dual tariff on utilities here is also to do with health air quality environment & quality of life-yet all these "actions" by you are geared towards money-ours into your pockets This being the case why is it "jonny foreigner" is the one to pay the most when you take our money too-lots of it from our cash spends and our EU contributions
David Willow
Feb 12th, 06:54
What a load of old tosh - strange that this crap comes out after the infringement notice (the second one) none of this "tosh" was ever mentioned in the build up to bus reform.....PN just be honest its all about the money and nothing to do with health, environment, air quality and quality of life.....
Carmel J. Caruana
Feb 12th, 05:23
Dear Ministry, the essential point is that whenever I go abroad I am never asked to show any residency card. Just admit that you have messed it up and correct the mess please. You are embarrassing us all.
Peter Xuereb
Feb 12th, 04:29
The reason for lower prices for "Residents" is only possible through subsidy. But indeed this can be extended to other EU citizens, considering that the Maltese government itself gets considerable EU funding. So there is no valid excuse really, other than money grabbing. Hopefully the EU gets on the Maltese government like a ton of bricks.
Pauline Peterson
Feb 12th, 03:16
A long-winded statement, which does nothing to solve the problem, just delays this ongoing saga even longer.
Two euros for all. How easy is that?
Don't say people are using their cars instead, because most people don't like sitting in traffic. If the routes and timetables are fixed, there won't be complaints about the fares.
Peter Murray
Feb 12th, 02:29
What an absolutely perverse and obtuse argument to put forward to declare that Malta's bus fares are significantly cheaper than almost any other EU member state! As what possible relevance could this have on a like-for-like basis and moreover,which EU member has the lowest fares?
Joe Grech
Feb 12th, 02:12
Do they really expect to convince the EU?
What on earth do they mean when they declare that ''bus fares in Malta are not based on nationality but
on residence? Can anybody explain?
The most absurd of this rather doubtful ''explanation'' is that Transport Malta is preoccupied with the ''well being of its residents''. Now that's ripe!
Michael Gamble
Feb 12th, 00:49
I see nothing wrong with the system running at the moment & it's quite normal for 'locals' whichever country they reside in to get better deals than the tourists/visitors.
I live in Cornwall which is heavily reliant on tourism & in almost every case there are discounts for me at most of the tourist locations & better rates for local travel if you have a local bus/train pass.
More EU interfering!
Melvyn Mifsud LLD
Feb 12th, 00:30
Who replied
The transport
Ministry or the Minister .........,,,, by the initials of
A .......,.. Woops. what does Manwel Delia have to say
G. Caruana
Feb 11th, 23:42
Such a scheme is discriminate.
The old bus system did this, and it was considered a 'Bużullotta'.
Now it's being done with the approval of the authority. It makes it official:
'Let's screw non-residents over and line the pockets of some fat cat, while making it look like we are minding our kin.'
A. Schembri
Feb 11th, 22:57
So if the Maltese citizen has no right to have lower fare for the bus service, then why is it that uk correspondece universities offer cheaper rates for correspondence students within the uk and Eu students pay more?
Maybe the eu should explain
Paul Borg
Feb 11th, 22:46
So why is it only in Malta. I do not recall paying more , as a tourist, in any of the 27 eu countries. Malta by far is the most expensive per kilometer commuted with the public transport. So the report is not correct.
G G Debono
Feb 11th, 22:32
1 ) As a resident over 3 decades in UK, Germany, Switxzerland DenmarK I paid tax, social security, transport etc exactly as everybody else.
2 ) if only 15% of local trips and current subsidised fares lead to no growth in bus patronage.are made using public transport, then this is because
a) there is something wrong with public transport or
b) private car use is made too easy
Tessa Taylor
Feb 11th, 22:01
So for the purposes of bus travel, possession of an ID card proves residence and qualifies me for cheaper fares.
My ID card does not prove residence when it comes to water and electricity bills....
David Willow
Feb 12th, 08:56
True Tessa - and a common misconception - although it can be argued that when you signed the application form for the old id card - you declare that you are resident here in Malta..accepted by arriva at government direction yet not by ARMs who are directed by the same government.....either way a SHAMbles and a disgusting level of EU national discrimination.
John Micallef
Feb 11th, 22:00
"This makes it significantly cheaper than almost any other EU Member State.
It reflects the level of service, i would pay more only if its a service you can depend on. Even in Morocco the public transport is far punctual, with state of the art buses. I used it & was very sorry for the one we are getting from Malta. We cannot even be compared to Maghreb, figure out to the EU my dears!!
Ms. P.M Graham
Feb 11th, 21:59
I love this statement!!
"The Ministry reiterated that the differentiated fare scheme, which is based on residence and not on nationality,"
Can I quote you on that in the arms class action??
Non Maltese nationals with an Alien card can travel the buses as residents but are not seen as residents by ARMS
EU waken UP!!
Stuart McNeil
Feb 12th, 08:44
Spot on comment--I am in the same position as you.What a two faced country this is.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 08:58
two faced and three tier pricing structure in shops too...one for the local nationals one for the resident expat and an other one to fleece the jonny foreigner tourist - SHAMeful
Anthony Paris
Feb 11th, 21:40
The EU should learn that the PN is infallible.
Francis Sammut
Feb 11th, 21:16
But a continuing trend of declining bus usage is what we would have had if Austin Gatt and Manuel Delia didn't take notice in the last hour, so to speak and took notice by bringing back the old bus routes at an extra cost payable to Arriva! We could have spared all this cost and suffering by the commuters if they listened to the people who matter and not to Georg Sapiano & Co.
Mr Tony Gatt
Feb 11th, 21:02
It's strange to reconcile people complaining of the poor wages the Maltese receive and yet have probably the highest proportion of car ownership per capita in Europe.
Maybe someone can explain this conumdrum.
Mr Henry A. Grima
Feb 11th, 21:44
Tony, there are cars and cars; a high % of cars in Malta are 10 years or older.
And this trend is bound to remain as long as more modern 2nd hand cars keep the exorbitant prices they are asked for.
Vincent Bezzina
Feb 11th, 22:12
No conundrum. In London you get faster and cheaper using the public transport. In Malta not having a car is NOT an option - not unless you have a whole day to waste.
Buses are just another vehicle on the same roads as your car, except they keep stopping at bus stops, take you extremely out of your way and generally take 3 to 5 times longer.
I wish i could use viable public transport personally.
Paul Borg
Feb 11th, 22:50
We also have the oldest and most polluting cars per capita and depend entirely on one means of public transport. Maybe instead of a Gozo tunnel, they should invest in a underground railways ....haha
Wally Vella-Zarb
Feb 11th, 23:00
No conundrum at all. If the public transport were reliable people would use it. It is not, so they don't. Unless one is working on flexitime one cannot rely on the bus arriving at the appointed time; sometimes it does not even materialise. People who need to get to work on time are constrained to use their cars. I am retired but only use buses to go to Valletta so as to avoid the parking problem.
A. Sultana
Feb 11th, 23:25
What is even more funny is that cars here are even more expensive to buy, hence a bigger burden. Yet, we can afford to own more.
Nadir Sammut
Feb 12th, 04:11
You have to be careful. No. of cars / square km : Malta is highest in EU27.
But, also, No. of people / square km: Malta is high (I believe the highest) in EU27.
Also both statistics do not factor the age and condition of the cars.
How many new, dent free cars do you see in Malta? Not as many as in most of EU27. (Of course there are worse places too).
Peter Xuereb
Feb 12th, 04:34
Cars in Malta stay in use for far longer. This is a combination of 3 things: Cars get passed down through generations (Parents giving their children the "Old Skoda"), Cars are not strained too much by use (relatively small distances of travel) and, funnily enough, a car in Malta is the least likely to be involved in an accident. (Road layout rather than driver behaviour, I'm sure)
Aristide Galea
Feb 12th, 11:03
A simple ansewer Mr Gatt , A poor Public Transport System where a ten minutes journey with your private car it takes at least 1hr 30min by public transport . Sometimes you have to take two buses to make that trip . Further more whenever I go abroad I have always paid the same fare as the local residents .
John Cole Smith
Feb 11th, 20:53
Carping, niggling and quibbling. What waste of time. Does everyone in authority, simply ignore the extreme suffering of a bus nation?, who amongst the deputies, ever traveled on an Arriva Bus, both in summer and in Winter, in a scorching 45 degrees? The first thing Joseph, if elected, should address, this and legislate for it to become a crime. Arriva bus users are treated worst than animals.
Mr Henry A. Grima
Feb 11th, 21:34
It should also be a crime to say that Arriva, 95% of the time and trips are not in comfort.
45C; where on earth did you get that?
Get real.
John Cole Smith
Feb 11th, 23:43
Mr Henry A Grima, I understand , you must be looking at the bus temperature gauge. If the bus is on fire it will still read 15 degrees, who knows why?, also there are portable pocket digital temperature gadgets that cost as little as €4.50, that are extremely accurate, its 40 - 45 , also you can watch commuters alight throwing up on alighting. I am sure all the buses you board are 15-21 degrees!
J Martinelli
Feb 12th, 00:55
Is this another ad , "Paid for and approved by Joseph and the Labour Party"?
Get real and get a life.
Dennis Zammit
Feb 12th, 04:59
Scorching 45 Degrees !!!!
Are you referring to the same Arriva public transport in Malta with airconditioning? If if not, the temperature in Malta does NOT rise to a scorching 45 Degrees Celsius.
So, what is your point?
Dennis Zammit
Feb 11th, 20:52
Well said.
Did any of the English complaining tourists EVER complain on the cost of short public transport trips in London and Greater London area? Never heard of any of these?
So why do they complain here in Malta?
All they need is a Maltese ID Card . . .which proves a 'sort' of Maltese residence.
Ms. P.M Graham
Feb 11th, 22:11
Mr Zammit, everyone pays the same price for everything in London, which is the difference. It's not the cost it's the discrimination.
Alan Dunn
Feb 11th, 22:20
I resent your response Mr Zammit, Not all English complain and complaining is what you are doing right now, but you have not got your facts rights about Public Transport in London, because everyone pays the fare they are entitled to, regardless of where your a resident, regardless of what part of the world your from and regardless of what part of Europe you live.
R Slater
Feb 11th, 23:07
And of course you show your maltese passport proudly when taking London buses...No really...why not? Oh yes because you pay the same for bus fare, no matter where you come from...If you want a monthly pass...you pay the same as an english employed person...want to travel on a short public transport...well you can..it costs the same price...for everybody.
Pauline Thompson
Feb 11th, 23:43
This isn't about distances, it's about discrimination - non-Maltese pay more for their journeys. It's not only the British tourists who complain but all those who find out that they are being ripped off. In the UK senior citizens travel free on buses and paying passengers are charged the same fare irrespective of where they come from!! Everyone is treated equally!!
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Feb 12th, 01:31
Is the cost of short public trips in London based on where you are domiciled?
John Turner
Feb 12th, 07:04
I'm an English tourist. Compared to just about any other country I've been to (and certainly compared to "rip-off Britain") bus fares in Malta are very cheap. There's nothing to complain about.
In Britain, rail travellers resident in a particular county can get a local rail card giving a significant reduction in the cost of off-peak tickets. You can't have a rail card if you're not a resident.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 07:04
Because Dennis Zammit - the foreigner is being ripped off by government sponsored daylight robbery and discrimination - it really is that simple.
David Willow
Feb 12th, 07:05
and having a maltese id card does not prove residence at all ( ask ARMs) - wake up man smell the coffee..
R. Lewis
Feb 12th, 10:41
@Dennis Zammit. It looks as if you have never been to London. Where do you get the information from. Not only that everyone pays the same fare, but even SCs they travel for free.
Jade Schembri
Feb 11th, 20:48
So Malta has found the holy grail whilst the rest of Europe is just blowing air? Wake up Malta
J Martinelli
Feb 12th, 00:58
Yes, Jade Schembri, that's what Malta got by not going for 'Partnerxipp'.
Some 2.3 billion worth of trouble!
Please choose the reason of your report below: