Labour says PN's projections are 'incredible and unbelievable'
Labour MEP Edward Scicluna said this evening that it was incredible that Finance Minister Tonio Fenech had said that the PN electoral promises, costing an average of €120 million in recurrent expenditure every year, would be funded through increased efficiency in government spending.
Speaking at a press conference, Prof Scicluna said this government had a poor record where spending efficiencies were involved.
One only needed to remember the outcry last year when the EU told the government to reduce its spending by €40 million.
Yet the PN was making promises which would increase recurrent expenditure by €120 million, and the minister had said at a press conference this afternoon that the increases would be covered by improved efficiencies and recurrent expenditure would not change from the projections he had made in the Budget.
The question, Prof Scicluna said, was what would happen if these efficiencies were not achieved The answer was that the deficit would increase by 1.5 percentage points per year, and the dream of achieving a balanced budget would remain just that.
PL finance spokesman Karmenu Vella said such projections continued to undermine the PN’s credibility and that of the Finance Minister. It was little wonder that the European Commission and rating agencies such as Standard and Poor’s had shown that they did not believe government projections.
Malta had repeatedly missed deficit reduction targets, he said.
There were the same old people promising the same old things, he said, and they could not be believed.
When pressed by journalists whether a Labour government would aim for and achieve a balanced budget, Mr Vella said Labour would certainly be more efficient in its spending that the current one.
Prof Scicluna said it would be an achievement if Labour managed to stop the rise in the government debt, something which the present government never managed to do.
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Steve Zammit
Jan 29th, 18:48
So are your dear Scicluna and Karmenu !
And by the way, where's Konrad?
Carmel (Nenu) Aquilina
Jan 29th, 18:28
Ħażin li ma ikkonvinċejtekx Sur Guido Farruġia!
Fuq kollox jekk inti tibqa iddeffes rasek fir-ramel, inti u l-familja l-ewwel li tistgħu tbgħatu, jekk il-futur tal-pajjiz ma jkomplix ikun fis-Sod bħalma għamlu fis-sod il-gvern Nazzjonalista ta' Dr lawrence Gonzi, jekk ikollna gvern Lejburista!
Ħsiebek hemm poplu Malti u Għawdxi, Lawrence Gonzi qed jiggarantilek futur fis-sod.
G Caruana
Jan 29th, 14:10
Labour refuses to publish their power station costings & Konrad Mizzi is nowhere to be seen.
A Tonna
Jan 29th, 13:40
3. The government should also financially punish more law-breaking citizens who think they are cowboys on this island. This will be a two-fold solution for crimes and contraventions. It is silly to pay e.g . 60 euros for causing injuries on someone, 23 eureos for over speeding etc.) Does anyone need a PhD for this? If such issues are tackled correctly, money will come!
A Tonna
Jan 29th, 13:40
2. Some even ask you, 'Do you want the estimate with VAT or not'. Obviously, the payer will benefit from not paying VAT but the payee benefits more. And in the long run who suffers? The government, and at the end us tax payers.
A Tonna
Jan 29th, 13:39
1. We need a government that really fights against tax evasion, especially VAT. They know who they are. It is impossible that we insignficant tax paying employees (and voters) know who evades VAT and those who collect taxes do not know. Everyone knows that most of those who give service, such as doctors, mechanics, private tution, construction contractors and the list is never ending, evade VAT.
A Tonna
Jan 29th, 13:06
Why was government spending not efficient before?
Richard Caruana
Jan 29th, 12:48
When the PL came out with its fairytale power station proposal, the PN brought in independent experts and even went as far as conducting an audit exercise, consigning it to the trash can. Since then the project went on the backburner and it's proponent K Mizzi disappeared.
These two bright boys had decided against the PN's costings in less than a couple of hours. What a studied judgement!
Carmel (Nenu) Aquilina
Jan 29th, 12:28
Għall LEJBER l-Indipendenza impossibli, l-Unjoni Ewropea kienet xkiel, l-munita Ewro m'għandniex x' nambuha, u kollha ġibnihom u qed jagħmlulna ġid kbir!
Il-programm elettorali tal-PN sar bil-costings b'kollox, u tal-LEJBER jgħidu li hu incredibli!
Mhux bilfors li hu incredibli, jekk tal-LEJBER mhux kapaċi jwetqugħħ!
Ħsiebkom hemm Maltin u Għawdxin, Gonzi u Simom għall futur fis-sod!
Guido Farrugia
Jan 29th, 16:13
Ghal naqra ma kkonvincejtnix Nenu. Erga pprova wara id-9 ta'Marzu.
A J Rose
Jan 29th, 12:07
PL should lay out the costings on their proposals first, especially on the new power station which is not required, before they try to delve into the PN's costings. They look bewildered and panicked.
What a yawn!
T Magro
Jan 29th, 11:36
As a first time voter both of you helped me to make my final decision...how can you study all the costings made in just 2 hours?...same as making a power point presentation on the power station and you think that we are beleiveing you?? ...PN won my vote this time...better the devil you know
John Azzopoardi
Jan 29th, 11:14
I think the same can be said about labour proposals. Is this all our politicians cn offer in this campaign. Or do they know that Brussels will be running Malta and not them.
Mr Lawrence Calleja
Jan 29th, 11:04
Is this the same person that was a consultant of Alfred Sant during the introduction of the VAT system between 1996 till 1998? No wonder that the MLP are in a panic mode. Their strategy is to wait for the PN to name their proposals, then they will follow suit.
Frans Aguis
Jan 29th, 10:51
"€120 million, and the minister had said at a press conference this afternoon that the increases would be covered by improved efficiencies "
HAHA like having a 1 million euro project blow up into a 30 million euro project? Like having all the projects go on for twice the time and more than twice the money? You mean those kinds of efficiencies? U hallinia Ton
Keith Davis
Jan 29th, 10:28
We have no way out unless we elect a technocratic government made of the most competent individuals in their respective sectors and that do not need to appease. With the current system and same people the extremely high debt the country has will never fade. We are paying millions just on interest on debts. Imagine all that money wasted instead of going for health and education, and other.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jan 29th, 10:04
Why is Labour in such a ‘panic mode’?
If Labour is worried that the PN cannot find 2% from the ‘national cake’; then how credible is it that Labour can find 25%?
It’s only 2%, you know!
If this is not PANIC from the Labour side, then I do not know what is!
JC.
K Grech
Jan 29th, 11:18
yeahh if this is what you call panic, then what was the tablet proposal of PN? came out 1 hour after PL's, not even worked well, don't you realize that first this proposal was to all, and then it was reduced to year 3- form 5, hilarious how PN changes his proposals
John Zarb
Jan 29th, 11:33
@ Joseph cauchi senior
PL is not panicing for sure. It is only saying that Tonio Fenech is trying to fool us as he has done already in various budgets he presented. The only party that paniced was GonziPN when Labour introduced the water and electricity workings.
Grezzju Mejlaq
Jan 29th, 10:02
I partially agree with Labour that the PN projections are optimistic. However, when Labour's response to the same question is "a Labour government would aim for and achieve a balanced budget", which means absolutely nothing as to what financial projections Labour is aiming at,and how it will achieve.
Labour needs to give answers, not the usual : "We're not going to do what the PN is doing..."
Andrea Andrew
Jan 29th, 10:00
PL in government will be the disgrace of Malta..
John Zarb
Jan 29th, 11:53
For sure GonziPN is country's disgrace with all the unfulffilled promises and lampant corruption smell all over the country.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 29th, 09:51
Robert Pullicino: The PL is announcing a number of PLEDGES ( meaning THEY WEILL BE IMPLEMENTED) each day so that they can be explained properly and thus understood. GonziPN published its 125 "promises ( meaning a lot of them will remain just that - PROMISES !) so that many of them will escape scrutiny and detailed analysis by journalists,
Fran Abela
Jan 29th, 10:43
So you think that the Maltese electorate - journalists included - are all idiots who cannot understand a full electoral programme but will understand the 'pledges' that the Malta Labour Party is offering day by day ?
Mr Mark Borh
Jan 29th, 09:39
Incredible and unbelievable? Just like that power station they plan to build because the one there is now is causing cancer, or how about a tax holiday for three months? or how about removing VAT? I can keep going on all day.
Don't kid yourselves, I've heard several things from PL that were incredible and unbelievable. Why don't they publish your manifest and workings of the power station then?
Eddy Privitera
Jan 29th, 09:52
Mark Both: You can "keep going on" for the next 5 years, AT LEAST, after 9 March !
Keith Goodlip
Jan 29th, 09:38
The given track record of the PN in government does not bode well for the next 5 years.
They have constantly missed the "OWN" imposed targets over and over again.
D. Ellul
Jan 29th, 09:28
Flimkien kollox possibli - fix-xoghol, fis-sahha u fl-edukazzjoni. Good luck PN
Eddy Privitera
Jan 29th, 09:44
D. Ellul: Izda l-aktar fill-fallimenti tal-previzzjonijiet finanzjarji !
m. borg (slm)
Jan 29th, 09:10
Budget 2012 had to be reduced by €20 million (EU's orders) and still over budgeted by at least €120 million.
Tonio delusions of 2014 to 2018 budgets to be, plus €120 every year and promising surplus by 2015.
Now if this is not some barmy thinking I don't know what is. !!!!
j brincat
Jan 29th, 08:54
@Robert pullicino
"PL have no vision ....four weeks into the campaign and they haven't yet published their manifest !"
Some more patience, please!
Whose vision are you referring to?
That of GonziPN who wants us to give him five more years of blissful power so that he fulfills the promises he made way back in 2008!
Is that your meaning of a visionary leader to you?
jb
Chris Borg
Jan 29th, 08:51
It's true that PL haven't published their whole manifesto yet, but they are giving us parts of it every day. The PN only issued their manifesto 5 days ago after 3 whole weeks of just negative comments. SO I don't see the fuss that PL havent issued it yet... the only issue I see is that most of the PN manifesto (surplus, less debt, etc..) where all already published in their 2008 manifesto
Mr B Vella
Jan 29th, 08:47
One of the people that convince me to vote Labour is Profs Edward Scicluna !!! Keep up your good work Profs the majority of the business community trusts you .
j brincat
Jan 29th, 08:45
@Neil Dent
"What a desperate comment 'jb' "
Who knows who is desperate Mr DENT, whoever you are!!!!!
It is THOSE who had NEVER had so good in the last 5 years who are sweating under the collar cause they cannot have it so good all ALL the time while the others are finding it increasing difficult to make both ends meet!
jb
Neil Dent
Jan 29th, 08:52
Not sure what you're insinuating Mr BRINCAT, whoever you are!!!!! but it sounds very 80's MLP to me!
ND
Robert pullicino
Jan 29th, 08:10
PL have no vision ....four weeks into the campaign and they haven't yet published their manifest !
Simon Scerri
Jan 29th, 07:48
PN made a great counter attack and are winning the game....winning the game cause they are well prepared and are realistic to the game!!! a whole team makes a team with reserves also and the supporters!!!
K Grech
Jan 29th, 12:11
Hmm yeah, i think the more you write here and the more Gonzi talks non-sense, the better it is for PL. its like 1person/10mins is moving away from PN.
Joe Tabone
Jan 29th, 07:25
It is 'incredible and unbelievable' that after 15 years in Opposition and 5 years under Joseph's leadership, we are half way through an election campaign and LABOUR have not yet presented their electoral programme!
WHY...................???
Simon Scerri
Jan 29th, 07:44
agree with you!!!!!!!!!
G Tonna
Jan 29th, 07:53
Because they have lost track of what they stand for. Are they socialist? Do they still believe in a centralised economy? Will they resort to robin hood fiscal policies of Mintoff's days? Do they believe in a liberalised economy? Will they go back to import substitution should their non existant economic policy bring about unemployment? Are we sure they won't pull out of the EU again?
G Tonna
Jan 29th, 07:55
They don't even have a party minifesto, or should I say they still have a real socialism one of Mintoff's days!
Steve Zammit
Jan 29th, 18:49
Ghax tal-PL ma jafux b'xix se johorgu, gonzi staqsa lil JM fuq Xarabank fejn jixtieq iwassal dal-pajjiz, u baqa' bla risposta.
B Ellul
Jan 29th, 07:01
Look who's talking! Where are your workings on the new Power station which you want to build? haha... what a waste of time!
Alfred Bugeja
Jan 29th, 06:57
"...same old people promising the same old things."
Not bad, coming from two dinosaurs who are at least 20 years Tonio Fenech's seniors.
m. borg (slm)
Jan 29th, 09:04
But 20 years wiser.
One is a Professor of Economics and the other a successful entrepreneur, What has Tonio to show except eight off the mark budgets as minister of finance.
Such sordid and infantile statements do not do you any good.
Andrew Azzopardi
Jan 29th, 11:42
Mr Borg,
I don't think I would ever mention results (especially financial) when sticking up for Labour. You could mention that labour did some great things for low wage earners like introduce the minimum wage. But otherwise, not much else. They were a total flop when it came to education, finance, investment of the country. However, I honestly hope that the next 5 years will be a different story
m. borg (slm)
Jan 28th, 23:32
Whatever you say the dice are cast.
Nobody is going to change the future.
Wilfred Camilleri
Jan 28th, 23:20
What's incredible and unbelievable is the PN's whole electoral program and their leader!
Josephine Tanti
Jan 28th, 22:36
So the present admin is stating by its own admission that they have been inefficient by EUR 120 Million per year. Assuming this inefficiency has been going on for the last 10 years this equates to EUR 1.2 Billion!
Can Mr. Fenech please elucidate the breakdown of these inefficiencies for only 2012 for a quick overview?
m. borg (slm)
Jan 29th, 09:05
100% right, Tonio's declaration about more efficient government spending only shows how inefficient he has already been.
pat muscat
Jan 28th, 22:22
During the last 25 years Gonzi+PN never balanced one single budget; not even when the going was good. Moreover, they have bequeathed to our kids a mountain of debt that will take long years to annihilate.Who is going to believe that GonziPN would not continue with its old ways?
Richard Caruana
Jan 29th, 07:22
And according to you Mintoffeconomics is the cure!
Golden days indeed, long gone and hopefully never to return.
These two have no faith in the future of Malta and will lead this country to stagnation
Simon Scerri
Jan 29th, 07:46
Pat looks you do not live in Malta!!! you make me laugh.....be realistic for once !!!!
JOHAN MICALLEF
Jan 28th, 22:09
tistaw twegbuni kif tonio fenech mar zmerc f kull budget li qal imbaghad temmnuh f kull ma jejd!?la huwa daqshekk tajjeb tonio fenech kif ghal kariga tad deputat mexxej gie elett b mod qawwi simon busuttil?u min dakinhar kuljum jidher fuq it tv biex jigbor lura l kredibilita li tilef!!jekk f 5 snin kull progett u target gie jiswa d doppju u t tripplu iktar milli propost...
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 28th, 22:00
I do not believe lejber are in any position to talk about credibility. they promised to remove vat and instead gave us 33 new taxes. PN removed 27 of those taxes!! They promised to keep stipends and then changed their minds. etc etc etc
keith chetcuti
Jan 28th, 21:58
At least pn showed costing .the pl showed us nothing just bluf . Ahjar xxitan li taf mill dak li ma nafx .
manuel lia
Jan 28th, 21:50
incredible and unbelievable is building an lng terminal,2 lng tanks [mosta dome comes to mind],gas power station ta 200mw,changing the new power plant to gas...IN 24 MONTHS .....thats surely incredible and unbelievable.....u ghax kont ha ninsa...issib lill xi hadd minus li jaghtik prezz garantit ta gass ghall ghaxar snin....NOW THATS TRULY UNBELIEVABLE...
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 29th, 12:51
lol you surely see only net. Because if you just hit wikipedia, you see that the Mosta Dome is by far larger than the LNG tanks
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 28th, 21:45
INCREDIBLE AND UNBELIEVABLE
WHAT IS CREDIBLE AND BELIEVABLE, BUILDING A POWER STATION IN 18 MONTHS?
WHERE ALL AROUND US ARE HAVING AUSTERITY MEASURES, REDUCTION IN SALARIES AND PENSIONS, REDUCTION IN SOCIAL SERVICES, WE IN MALTA ARE PROSPERING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A BRIGHTER FUTURE.
NO NEED OF ANY CHANGE OF DIRECTION. WE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD SO PLEASE BACK THIS PROPERTY. YOU WON;T REGRET IT
Colin Azzopardi
Jan 29th, 09:19
A true nationalist comment... But people are not buying all the sweet talking from this government. They had their chance to prove to be worth keeping but they messed up way too much. Their pockets are more important then people. I am not saying this because I'm a lejburist, far from it. However I consider myself as an ex PN.
Roberto Fenech
Jan 28th, 21:42
It was too quick for Labour to do all the calculations and verify the PNs projects. Either the statement was prepared or the calculations are wrong. Sorry LP din bhal tal billboards tal budget 2011. Kwarta wara il budget kellkhom ga billboards too little too late...
Kunu darba serji please...
John Spiteri
Jan 28th, 21:41
The projections of Profs:Edward Scicluna are :- Malta Health Scheme can no longer be given free to no one in Malta. Mea Culpa.
Anthony Mizzi
Jan 28th, 21:29
What Profs. Edward Scicluna and Karmenu Vella say is very much RELEVANT and should never be taken ligthly !
Their track record and reputation speak out loud and clear!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 28th, 21:17
On the other hand the PL has a brilliant record where spending efficiencies were involved
In fact I have been recently informed that the project to lay some tiles on the Bugibba front is being sought as a best practice case study by the best universities around the world. They also looked at the staggering LM 800 million debt in just over 2 years but they intend using that for PhD level!
A. Mifsud
Jan 28th, 21:12
...yet another case of the pot calling the kettle black !!!!
Dejjaqtuna lkoll kemm intom. Iz zewg partiti lesti jghamlu kollox ghall poter!
Denis Pace
Jan 28th, 21:10
I bet my bottom cent that this speech was prepared BEFORE the publication of costings.
Seeing Edward Scicluna next to Karmenu Vella makes me shiver!
Joe Tabone
Jan 28th, 21:02
Profs Scicluna should at least show the PL electoral programme to the electorate. What is LABOUR waiting for??
What happened to the reports to support LABOUR's energy proposal? ALL experts are awaiting this report to evaluate this proposal? Where are the numbers??
Annie Pace
Jan 28th, 20:57
Karmenu Vella said "there were the same old people promising the same old things, he said, and they could not be believed".
Look who's talking!! He had better look around him before speaking...there are fossils in the PL parliament benches that date back to Mintoff's, KMB's and Sant's time, including himself.
Marco Galea
Jan 28th, 20:55
Edward Scicluna fuq TVHEMM meta mistoqsi dwar il-costings tal-PL: "Fil-hin opportun"
WARA L-ELEZZJONI?
Mario Mercieca
Jan 28th, 20:45
Its very simple dear Karmenu and Edward..Divide your 600 euro useless power station by 5 and there you go 120 million per year..ara veru min tal Mintoffcomics inthom.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 28th, 20:33
Joe M Borg: You say I am an asset to GonziPN. Well the Malta Today survey published yesterday has shown that the PL is 14 percentage points ahead of GonziPN, a rise of 3 points from the previous one. Could it be that I am an asset to the PL ? Just asking.
Andrew Azzopardi
Jan 29th, 11:59
So the 14 percentage pnts are all your doing? so, Dr Muscats total revamp of the labour party image has nothing to do with it? Mr Privitera, let me spoon-feed you here - DR Muscat is doing his utmost to come across as progressive, new and a changed party and I would say with a lot of success - well done to him. But, you on the other hand sound like a throw-back to 80's - you are a liability to MLP
Richard Caruana
Jan 28th, 20:33
So these two lejber gurus are not of the opinion that our GDP can grow at the PN's predicted rate.
Can only mean that they don't believe that they can do it themselves; considering their past, we're not surprised.
They've given up already and are promising us stagnation.
Chris Muscat
Jan 28th, 20:25
First they accuse PN of rubbishing MLP's proposals, only for them to do the same once they have the chance.
PN's track record in increasing Malta's economy is a reality and whoever doesn't see that is blind.
Andre Briffa
Jan 28th, 20:23
This article really cracked me up! Karmenu Vella and Edward Scicluna...YOU are incredible and unbelievable!!
Mary Ann Borg
Jan 28th, 20:15
Come March 10, Joseph, Konrad and Profs Scicluna will start eating their own words. But March 10 also represents Day 1 out of 730 days to have the gas power station on stream. Now that is credible, don't you think?
James Grech
Jan 28th, 19:55
To keep to these promised amounts will a PN Gov. go back on his word and increase the taxes? What does it mean when the minister says that his gov will be more efficient? how? which are the changes that will be done for these to be achieved? It's confusing! Is this just hot air? we need to know!!
Andre Briffa
Jan 29th, 11:06
James Grech, Only ONE government went back on its word re: taxes....and that was the PL! When they removed VAT and then introduced another 33 taxes!!
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 28th, 19:47
Reading many of these ridiculous comments makes me think that the reason for an intellectual like Prof. Scicluna to enter politics, is that he sensed long time ago that something extremely serious and wrong had been going on. It's a pity that people like Prof Scicluna and Prof Monti in Italy are not found in politics around the world.
martin said
Jan 28th, 19:37
The most incredible and unbelievable topic is that these 2 politicians show up commenting about anything!
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 28th, 19:43
Especially when you reflect on the sheer genius of the Golden Years of Mintoff-onomics.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 28th, 20:35
Anthony Scicluna And these people are being believed , while Tonio Fenech, Simon Busuttil and Lawrence Gonzi, ARE NOT !
Richard Caruana
Jan 28th, 19:32
From the guys who told us that national health under the PN would be against payment in 2008.
You weren't credible then, certainly not now.
The one on the right who claims that health has to be charged, and that student stipends are unsustainable, but now toes the party line; the one on the left holds the record of unemployment in Malta
What do these two know about economics?
Richard Caruana
Jan 28th, 19:27
Just give us your costings, dear PL, and we'll compare!
Lejber in panic mode!
Donna Parnis
Jan 28th, 21:04
LABOUR not lejber if your writing in English Mr Caruana will give the costing soon enough and then we shall laugh once again at the pn
anton cassar
Jan 28th, 21:49
So ...you think that Lejber is in panic ehh...let me call your bluff......do you have some Euros to spare ???
If so I double it for you !!
Lawrence Fenech
Jan 29th, 05:17
@Richard.
14 points ahead and in panic, you have it upside down my friend. PN is drowning everyday in it's programme and will keep doing so for the next 39 days. Gonzi's days are counted.
Steve Zammit
Jan 28th, 19:23
Kemm hu sabih il-background BLUE warajkom.
George Cutajar
Jan 28th, 19:22
Prof Scicluna said it would be an achievement if Labour managed to stop the rise in the government debt, something which the present government never managed to do.
Not surprising coming from someone who only last week said that employment in Spain was better than in Malta. Do we understand that should Labour get elected the government debt will not go down? This is what JM has been promising.
Andrew Camilleri
Jan 28th, 20:13
Yes Mr Cutajar as a matter of FACT the employment rate is better in Spain than in Malta. Just check your facts please.
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php?title=File:Employment_rate,_age_group_15-64,_2001-2011_(%25).png&filetimestamp=20121030182934
Denis Pace
Jan 28th, 21:11
Dont forget Cyprus, Joe!
Saviour Aquilina
Jan 28th, 19:13
No problem Prof....give us your costing, or what you and you colleges says are the only truth???
jm busuttil
Jan 28th, 19:11
Eddy back in action.
Yes Eddy the Power station will be costing round about 600 million, even a non accountant or economist can make the projections. I pray to God that you will be around to see the fall of the PL and Malta thanks to Konrad's power station.
I also hope that there will be a law to bring to justice all those involved in this epic failure.
M Gatt
Jan 28th, 20:18
Be sure to pay those 25% though. Just pay them on top of your bills :)
Joseph Bajada
Jan 28th, 19:06
increased efficiency?? for 120 Million Euros extra a year? How? Increasing VAT? Increasing Electricity and Water rates? Fining and taxing everything that moves under the sun?
incredible!
David Farrugia
Jan 28th, 19:24
of course, the EU is already projecting an increase of Water and electricity rates, as things stand.
Ruben Mifsud
Jan 28th, 19:00
If PL is stating that PN's promises are undoable due to dept, than PL is stating that if PL be in goverment he will do nothing cause even his "PROPOSALS" cost money!!
PN's promises are a 5 year term program, so it will not cost 120 M Euro from the first year in goverment.
You do not need to go to any university or being a professor to understand this!!
K Grech
Jan 28th, 19:14
This article is a bit difficult to understand it, especially when you start reading it without the want of understanding it. So take another moment to read it and search what 'recurrent expenditure' is.
Ruben Mifsud
Jan 28th, 19:32
@ K Grech,
please read it again you and try to understand what PL is saying between the lines!!
Vince Piscopo
Jan 29th, 05:57
So Mr Mifsud since you seem to be very into figures explain to me what PL is trying to say between the lines according to you ? I agree with you that you need not be that intellectual to comprehend simplistic terms but i ask you 1 thing? Would it be acceptable to you if PL were to say that those promised proposals that would not be met during this term will be tackled in the next term as Gonzi did?
peter mercieca
Jan 28th, 18:59
Dear Eddie, i happen to follow a lot more than you think but you are just one of those old timers that the LP or MLP should put aside if they ever want to move forward! if this election is won by JM its going to be done just by default and not because of what they are proposing. we all know including yourself what mistakes were done in 22 months, but I think that we have to learn from mistakes!
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 19:11
peter, watch your words. Please don't scare Eddie Privitera away, as he's an asset to PN right now. With his reasoning, hopefully many first time voters who do NOT remember what PL can do, will think again. Let him speak, he shows what to expect from a 'new' PL. Prehistoric ideology!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 28th, 20:44
Peter Mercieca: There were no DOWNGRADES in those 22 months. There were no stories OF CORRUPTION too. There were no stories of POLITICAL VINDICTIVENESS too ! What is important is TODAY & TOMORROW. OR haven't you read what Dr. EFA has said in yesterday's The Sunday Times ?
Jason Zammit
Jan 28th, 18:58
Sur Eddie Privitera, when are PL costings coming out ??? Tigiex tajdli wara lelezjoni ta ghax tifqa u toqtol xeba nies bid dahk .... Ajdilna ftit meta I'll PL ser jatina I'll costings tieghu hali inkunu nafu ahna I'll poplu kemm ser nohorgu taxxi ax wara kollox min butna u min butek ser johorgu ta u min ta hadd iktar ... Awaiting your reply
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 19:09
Jason. EZATT bhal tal-VAT! Qabel l-elezzjoni qalulna BISS bis-sabih: 'se nnehhu l-VAT'. U kulhadd rama' l-cash register. Wara l-elezzjoni qalulna li 'se jkollhom' idahhlu CET u 33 taxxa ohra. Deja vu'. Wara l-elezzjoni jghidulna l-kumplament, u jekk ifalli, Joe iwarrab! Dik responsabbilta'. Mur afdah!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 28th, 20:45
Jason Zammit: Il-costings qed jithabbru KULLJUM, jew qed tghix fil-qamar ?
Joseph Xuereb
Jan 28th, 18:55
I do not blame them as this is beyond them and their abilities centre on MINTOFFECONOMICS and, lest we forget, Scicluna was not in favour of the Students Stipend system. It is also beyond them to retain our country's economic performance in this world of problems. So I understand why they are reasoning in this manner. It is vital for this country to ensure that we let PN govern for prosperity.
K Grech
Jan 28th, 19:18
lest we forget, it was PN that has last touched the stipends :)
Mr Alistaire Gill
Jan 28th, 21:11
Joey. ghidilna li kien GonziPN li naqqas l-istipendji u l-ismart cards kwazi bin-nofs.
Din ma ddoqx ghal widnejk.
Kien Joseph Muscat li qal xhur ilu li l-istipendji ghandhom jizdiedu a pparagun ta l-gholi tal-hajja.
Dawn m'huma xejn ta - 5 biljun dejn tal-gvern 800 miljun ta l-enemalta, 100miljun ta bieb il belt u downgrade ta S&P u negative outlook. Tort ta' Joseph avolja m'ghamilhomx hu.
Mark Pace
Jan 28th, 18:54
Scicluna & Vella held a press conference to say that Minister Fenech's projections were not correct but they did not say what their projections were!!!!!! "When pressed by journalists" they admitted that a Muscat government will not achieve a balanced budget. We know what that means....just look at what the Socialists in Spain & Greece did to their economies.
George Cutajar
Jan 28th, 18:54
I will believe that Tonio Fenech's projections are unbelievable if and when the two learned gentlemen tell us how their party intends to build a power station and gas terminal at Delimara with a mere Eur 300 million.
The very fact that both speakers were very evasive on being asked about a balanced budget should Labour win the election should send shivers down one's spine.
K Grech
Jan 28th, 19:20
Hmm, 'shivers down one's spine.', have you had 'shivers down one's spine.' during these past 5 years? because if you had forgotten, PN promised a balanced budget in 2008.
John B. Borg
Jan 28th, 19:47
Money for Labour's gas terminal shall be found in the same manner that Gonzi PN found money to finance his massive ego trip costing 100 million euro on the Piano City Gap project and cutting the millions that are being squandered on consultancies, fabulous salaries to blue eyed boys and sheer mismanagement of public funds. Not so hard George.
Mr Alistaire Gill
Jan 28th, 20:58
Kemm iddum biex tifhem Gorg. Il-PL mhux se jibni power station, imma jixtri l-energija minghand il-privat li jibni il-powerstation. GvernPL jaqleb l-extension tal BWSC biex tahdem bil-gass.
Naturalment hemm xi whud se jitilfu kemxa gmiela minn fuq i-lcommission taz-zejt imma int u jien u l-industrija se niffrankaw mill-kontijiet ta l-energija u l-ilma. Jekk int komdu thallas bl-gholi jien minix.
Frank Gauci
Jan 28th, 18:53
Il buzullotti spiccaw mill arriva u dahlu f mohh Karmenu Vella biex qed jiddeskrivi l pn "same OLD people".....u leeeeee
Jos Brincat
Jan 28th, 18:51
So Labour is not sure that it will stop the rise in the Government debt as expressed by Profs Scicluna. I find these remarks very incredible considering that it took these 2 spokesmen 4 just hours to shoot down the projections made by the Minister of Finance. At least the PN's electoral promises are backed by figures now. What about the PL's proposals?
Victor Laiviera
Jan 28th, 18:47
The PN is trying to do what it failed to do in Parliament - get a sort of "budget" approved.
L Zammit
Jan 28th, 20:30
Don't you worry. The Maltese will approve the budget on March 9.
Tony Borg
Jan 28th, 18:45
If the PN electoral promises are to be financed from increased efficiencies from government spending, then why didn't they do it over the past 5 years and reduced the deficit?
At work we used to practice a "continuous improvement policy" all the time. I suppose it's OK to blow taxpayers money capriciously then is it?
Charlie Tabone
Jan 28th, 18:43
pROFS ,Dr karmenu vella......ma tistawx temmnu b dak li qed taqraw.......u zggguuuuuuurrrrrr......ghal tal labour bi 3 proposti mqanshin ghadhom......
j brincat
Jan 28th, 18:42
@Joe Sammut
"Joseph is dishing out promises without the formal approval of the party conference"
Do you mean by dishing out promises like the dishing out of tablets to ALL after the PL came with the idea an hour EARLIER!
LOL!!
jb
Neil Dent
Jan 28th, 19:03
What a desperate comment 'jb'. I doubt you even believe it yourself, it's so ridiculous. The PN option, love it or hate it, was well considered, costed and structured in a sensible and logical manner. Far and away superior to that of the Movement.
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Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 19:06
Joseph Muscat 'came out with the ideas' of the tunnel; pipeline; jobs for Gozo; solar energy; day care centres; MEP deputy; VAT; EU, Euro;...ALL AFTER PN introduced them. You were snoring then! Wake up, PL always trail miles behind.
j brincat
Jan 28th, 18:39
@John White
"A new prosperous project on the way,a new useless power station. .... Don`t make us laugh"
Do you know who is making our belly ache with laughter!
The one who has promised us that the deficit would be balance by December 2010 and instead this widened further still and also burdened us with €5 billion public debt!
Throwing figures around impress nobody!
jb
Gordon Farrugia
Jan 28th, 18:51
+1 but the deficit is now closer to 6 billion than 5 plus you have to add to that figure that hundreds of millions owed by Enemalta, the millions owed by AirMalta and the hundred or so (milllion) we have guaranteed for Greek debt. When you look at the full-blown abyss figure it really paints a dark picture. And then you have politicians behave as if we are in surplus. Get REAL! Expect Taxes!!
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 19:01
j brincat Someone else promised us that if Gonzi were elected in last election, health would not remain free. After 5 years, WE KNOW who was lying.
You know what does NOT impress anybody? Building an entire power station in 18 months, with all the machinery, and the 2 atom bombs. Just an accident waiting to happen. Aren't M'xlokk local council worried? Are they laughing like you are?
Dennis Spiteri
Jan 28th, 19:02
Are you living in a real world jb? A slump throughout the world and you expect the government not to invest to spur on the economy i.e. an increase in expenditure and subsequently PN did not honor part of their promises. I prefer living in a country with no unemployment protests rather than one with balanced budgets and unemployment
Joe Sammut
Jan 28th, 19:45
@ Gordon Farrugia , people like you vote Labour because they can’t differentiate between debt and deficit.
People like you say “Mhux l-istess?” and continue their arguments as if they won the argument.
Gordon Farrugia
Jan 28th, 20:21
debt and deficit lol
well the 6 million are all DEBT - it is all money that we eventually have to pay and it is you, me, our children and their children who are going to pay it!! The first rule towards financial independence is to pay your debt before you even consider investments - at present we are paying hundreds of millions just to cover interest (money that could be utilised elsewhere!!)
Andre Briffa
Jan 28th, 20:28
J Brincat....they are using figures for people to understand the situation...if you think figures are used to impress people you clearly are a lost soul.
Joe Sammut
Jan 28th, 18:35
I have been hearing buzz words from Joseph Muscat and unproven statements for the last three weeks. Can these two gentlemen in the picture enlighten us about the costings of their pie in the sky LNG power station.
Joseph said that Labour came with the costings , I beg to differ.
Joseph is dishing out promises without the formal approval of the party conference.
Anglu’s supporters are angry.
James Grech
Jan 28th, 18:30
Unbelievable how PN acolytes still live in cuckoo land. Just because the minister did a weekend-long bookkeeping exercise than all is fine? How will this efficiency will be increased? We never had such a large public debt which increases to 90% of GDP if one considers Enemalta's debt. How will the PN address this? Where are the efficiency-improvement measures in the electoral program?
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 19:04
James, you are free to believe PL then. In 1996 most of Malta believed PL, because of the VAT 'bait'. They were sorry only AFTERWARDS. And they were SO SORRY, that PL have been in opposition ever since. So, go on, TRUST you glorious PL withy their power station gimmick. Building a power station in 18 months! My God, another Grimm fairytale!
Gordon Farrugia
Jan 28th, 20:26
@ Joe you know what are REAL gimmick? A tunnel between Malta and Gozo. That's a true gimmick. Likewise iPads for everyone - that surely a gimmick. Another gimmick was when PN in the last elections promised income tax cuts from 35% to 25%. haha. A gas powered station isn't a gimmick but a proposal we urgently need realisation of. Surely everyone by now experiences the occasional power cuts.
N. Bugeja
Jan 28th, 18:29
"There were the same old people promising the same old things" - says the same person who was in parliament during the Mintoff era...How ironic!
C Sant
Jan 28th, 18:29
As incredible and unbelievable as your election results forecast!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 28th, 19:00
C Sant: Dr. Musscat has NEVER made any election results forecast. Only Dr. Gonzi has been telling his blinkered supporters that he will be winning the election ! What has been published are opinion poll surveys by Malta Today and The Sunday Times . Or haven't you ever seen them ? There was one published yesterday by Malta Today. Have a look !
Dennis Spiteri
Jan 28th, 18:27
Same old labour...
G Tonna
Jan 28th, 18:27
That was very quick from Labour. Now I understand why they will manage to build a new gas power station and roll it out in 2 years. PL will be a super government.
I cannot figure out why it will take them one year to finish a pedestrian bridge at the Mriehel Bypass.
JL Deguara
Jan 28th, 23:15
I understand your expectations when we're used to forget when a project even started, just to have it finished, or inaugurated but not finished, at the eve of an election.
At least PL mentioned the Mriehel Bypass bridge. For PN it was insignificant, based on statistics on how much pedestrians cross the road each day.
Andrew Azzopardi
Jan 29th, 11:48
@JL Deguara.
You totally missed point that G Tonna was making.
m. borg (slm)
Jan 28th, 18:24
".....would be funded through increased efficiency in government spending."
At least 6 years or is it 7 years, as finance minister Tonio never balanced a budget so much so that he never hit the mark when projecting the deficits which were all more than those planned.
Only idiots would believe Tonio when he talks about balances.
James Grech
Jan 28th, 18:23
totally agree! With the innumerable overruns in each and every initiative by consecutive PN governments, it is not realistic to believe that these promises will be achieved by the stated amount. One only has to remember how a 1million euro contract was turned into one of 23Million Euros. This was stated by the auditor general. What about the various credit rating agency reports? This is not on!!
P Borg
Jan 28th, 18:22
"Incredible and unbelievable" is MLP's power station! First of all, dear MLP, incredible = unbelievable! Now, how come Prof Scicluna believes that a gas power plant will be ready in 2 years' time and will cost 300 million Euros?! THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE from a professor! Let's wait and see ... to witness the MLP's own undoing. MLP may win the election, but it will fail soon after, as in 1996.
sammy cassar
Jan 28th, 18:22
isa hej. Look who is panicking now!!! PN is explaining where they are getting the money from. Where will Joseph Muscat get 300 million euro? emmm sorry 600 million euro? Do you know?
scott brown
Jan 28th, 18:21
Well, if they are incredible and unbelievable, Profs, why don't you give us PL's credible and believable costings. I just hope they are more credible then the energy proposal madness and the building of two 30,000 tonnes tanks on rubble without costing for a single cent on foundations.
m. borg (slm)
Jan 28th, 18:27
Just take into consideration that labour will not embark on useless projects like the roofless theatre, new parliament, hole-in-wall in Valletta's bastions, a bridge to nowhere and roads that are dug into only weeks after being finished.
Those are some of the kind of monies PL will be saving, let's not forget the milllions on consultancies and reports that never see the light of day.
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:39
Mr Scott, PL CANNOT give us THEIR credible and believable costings, because they do not exist. Dr T Abela stated that the 'rest' of the studies will come out AFTER election, when it's too late for hapless Malta.
Mr Anthony Briffa
Jan 28th, 18:19
The two persons in the press conference are in a panic and cannot yet realize what hit them this afternoon. They rushed to call the costings incredible and unbelievable without even managing to publish the PL electoral programme, which Mr Vella should have completed by now after working on it for the last few years. The tit bits by Joseph everyday do not present a real programme.
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:41
Dr K Vella is famous for 'I don't know what I said...!' I think he STILL does not know what he is saying!
Godfrey Zammit
Jan 29th, 00:31
Look who's talking about efficiencies are they the same people who told us about the 7000 jobs at Smart city, 800 jobs at White Rocks, Ta` Qali crafts village and what about the downgrade by S&P. Best assets of this country were sold and now the Maltese people are left with huge debts and the worst ever deficit in our history. Gonzi PN made BUREAUCRACY part of our culture. (FINANZI FIZ-ZEJT)
joseph green
Jan 28th, 18:13
'incredible and unbelievable'
is the timeframe project you are suggesting for the new powerstation.
Mr Edward Caruana Galizia
Jan 28th, 18:11
But god knows how many millions of euros for a new power station......well that's alright then is it?
Eddy Privitera
Jan 28th, 18:22
Edward Caruana Galizia. It seems that you were asleep when Konrad Mizzi had repeatedly explained that the money to build the new gas-fired power station will be coming from a private company ! Wake UP !
Brian Debono
Jan 28th, 18:41
Mr Privitera,
Are you so gullible? So a private investor will spend hundreds of millions for nothing? Maybe because he likes Joseph Muscat? Don't be ridiculous.
Someone ( you and me) will pay for it.
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:46
Eddie, It's clear YOU were asleep when PN were providing schemes for PV panels; solar water heaters; applying for the pipeline; finding 20,000; restoring all our bastions; marina; cruise terminal; Lusfthansa; SR; and all the rest. People like you are an ASSET to PN. YOU show what PL are all about! Onetv overdosed, daydreaming, and still 30 years backward! Keep it up. And thanks!
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 28th, 18:50
@ Eddy Privitera
I heard K Mizzi. He said
1. The tanks will be built on the fore shore next to the power station.
2. The tanks will be built instead of the four existing tanks
3. The tanks will be built underground.
Which one of these Eddy? The most important that no matter what the rates will be reduced even it means driving Malta G A S D O W N gol hajt. Laqwa li tghaddi ta Muscat.
Neil Dent
Jan 28th, 18:52
Eddie - how and by whom? Your PL/MLP/Muviment NEVER answer a direct question put to them on costings, that are asked on a simple right-to-know basis. They just keep them under wraps (let's say that they actually exist just to give them the benefit of the doubt), together with Karmenu Vella's long awaited electoral programme. Ara vera tibla kollox li jghidulek jahasra, 'Dward.
Neil Dent
Jan 28th, 18:52
Oh, and by the way Eddie - where's Konrad gone!?
George Cutajar
Jan 28th, 19:26
@ Eddy Privitera - in all honesty do you know of a private investor who is willing to sponsor a project, guarantee a fixed price for the goods and perhaps recover his investment over a 25 year period? Unless the guy is crazy or has millions to throw away ( some far away state) or simply that you and your party are hoping that this guy might fall from the sky.
Denis Pace
Jan 28th, 21:15
600 million for a new power station which we do not really need is the BIGGEST question mark in this pre-election run-up
Marco Galea
Jan 28th, 18:11
There were the same old people promising the same old things, he said, and they could not be believed.
KARMENU VELLA SAID THIS?
GOOD RIDDANCE!
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:47
As usual, Karmenu does not know what he says! He HIMSLF confirmed this during another press conference. Keep it up, Karm.
Denis Pace
Jan 28th, 21:16
Karmenu's roots must go deep as he is still on the surface of the LP...not like Anglu
twanny borg
Jan 28th, 18:08
Ghall-anqas il-pn spjega kif ser igib u jqassam il-flus tal-weghdi elettorali. Issa nistennew il-pl jispjega tieghu.
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:48
Se ddum tistenna twanny. Bhal tal-VAT, il-PL jispjehawlek WARA l-elezzjoni, meta jkun tard wisq. U jekk il-progett ifalli, Joe iwarrab! DIK responsabbilta'.
j brincat
Jan 28th, 18:07
When it comes to projections GonziPN fails miserably!
Taking just Mater Dei,deficit balancing and spiral public debt as an example!
jb
JOHN WHITE
Jan 28th, 18:18
A new prosperous project on the way,a new useless power station. We will see if the time frame will be kept as Konrad said. Yeah like we are building blocks. Don`t make us laugh JB
Dennis Spiteri
Jan 28th, 18:20
anke ghall-fondi tal-UE qieghed tirreferi? Aren't those also projections jb?
R. Camilleri
Jan 28th, 18:24
Part 1:
I think that you forget the sptar San Rafaele and general hospital saga.
Pre 1996 (PL Sant government) the new hospital was funded entirely by San Rafaele hospital Milan and was intended as a research hospital (including the medical school) and taking a load of 400 patients while refurbishing slowly each ward at St Luke's (which had already started with the orthopedic wards.
R. Camilleri
Jan 28th, 18:28
Part 2
Sant changed the plans and converted them to a general hospital and as a result we lost all the italian funding.
In 1998 the foundation had been changed by the Sant government to 800 beds and with the funding lost the PN had to continue on what labour had already ruined.
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:52
j brincat You 'missed' the 20,000 jobs; the billion euros from EU; Mater Dei was praised as 'state of the art' by YOUR idol; 10,000 university students....... Another thing! PL before last election terrorised us by the fact that if Gonzipn is elected, health will NOT remain free. WHO failed miserably there? PL who lied all along. It was ONLY under a PL gov that health was EVER charged!
Denis Pace
Jan 28th, 21:18
Mater Dei is a bottomless pit with parties vowing that Healthcare will always remain free.
But a useless power station will explode any deficit beyond repair!
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 28th, 18:05
One point that needs to be clarified from the PN: is al this spending over and above the current proposed budget? Has this been taken into consideration? The PN undertook to implement it. But then, they know that no one epxpects the PN to implement its budgets - it never has.
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:56
'It never has.' Should Gonzi have implemented Joseph's advise to copy Cyprus then? If Gonzi was not wiser than Joseph, and did what he was told, the next government, whoever he might be, would have to ask for a bailout, like Cyprus. But luckily, we were in Gonzi's, not Joseph's hands. One thing PN did NOT implement was PL's warning that under PN health will not remain free. Thank God for PN.
peter mercieca
Jan 28th, 18:04
it would be much better for Profs. Scicluna to tell us the costings of the labour proposals. we all know what happened in 1996 and unfortunately the only way we can judge labour is during the short days in government. i don't think it would be fair to judge them on the 80's but at least we have to look at recent years.
JOHN WHITE
Jan 28th, 18:18
Well said Peter
Eddy Privitera
Jan 28th, 18:28
Peter Mercieca: If you just listen to the PL's press conferences, when it explains the costings of its pledges, then you would know. But it seems that you are not interested in hearing anything coming from PL. You just gobble up whatever is said by GonziPN !
m. borg (slm)
Jan 28th, 18:31
You say "...the only way we can judge labour is during the short days in government..." yet it is not the first time you commented on what happened in the eighties.
Isn't that somewhat hypocritical of you talking about events that supposedly happened in the 80s which you did not experience them?
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 28th, 18:55
That is exactly what you do Eddy you just gobble all that is said by the PL even if all the experts say it is impossible for the power station to be built in two years.
Muscat says that the heavy fuel oil is a cancer factory and you parrot the same on the blogs when all the experts say the opposite.
Minn ma jifhimx ghandu jiehu parir mill esperti u mhux iffajjar bl adocc. Il Malta ma tidhaqx bih.
Joe M Borg
Jan 28th, 18:57
What do YOU gobble, Eddie. Believing that an entire power station CAN be erected in 18 months! The Grimm brothers are proud of you. Keep it up.
Steve Zammit
Jan 28th, 19:22
Eddy hear hear
Peter Zahra
Jan 28th, 18:00
Karmenu Vella said "the same old people promising the same old things". Jaqaw qed jiprettendi li hu xi newcomer by any chance !!! I bet that he is the oldest labour MP and have been in parliament since the 1980' s !!!
marc pace
Jan 28th, 18:00
correction mr scicluna...the eu never asked the government to reduce it's budget....it reduced at it's own will as they found a sustainable way of reducing government spending!!!!get your facts straight before you go blabbing about the government insulting people's intelligence!!!
Michael Magri
Jan 28th, 18:17
VETRY... VERY.. WRONG SUR PACE.. What the EU did not tell GonziPN is from where the 40 million would be deducted.... That`s All..?
Eric Borg
Jan 28th, 17:58
For a moment let us forget both Parties. Imagine Malta has Profs Scicluna in Financial Control of the Government!!
He will bring real ideas, not as a Lawyer..........,but as an honest Economy Professor!
I shall vote for him irrespective which party he is in!!
peter mercieca
Jan 28th, 18:12
Eric int ghandek tfal???? ghax dan il Profs kien l istess bniedem li qallina li lis stipendji tat tfal taghna irridu jinqatghu!!!
JOHN WHITE
Jan 28th, 18:20
Inbabsu minn hemm u nnaqsu minn hawn ........ Stipendji zejda....
Jesmond Chetcuti
Jan 28th, 20:43
@Peter, yes eventually stipends in their present format has to end...loan without interest is the way forward...our children have to thank God (and the rest of the working population) that they don't pay any fees to attend Uni...not many countries in the world give this privilege ...
Michael Magri
Jan 29th, 17:29
I shall vote for him irrespective which party he is in!!
Eric.. You are 100% on the right track.. We all know of those famous two words .....SOUR GRAPES..... right...!!??
P Debattista
Jan 28th, 17:51
"There were the same old people promising the same old things, he said, and they could not be believed."
How ironic coming from none other than Karmenu Vella...
Maria Mangion
Jan 28th, 18:23
Since then Karmenu Vella proved himself even in the private sector. As joseph is saying we learned from our own mistakes. As for Tonio Fenech he is promising more of the same , and admitting no mistakes. May I remind you of the 5 billion debt most of which was created by this government, and do not forget enemalta and its 800 million debt with its stubbornness not to change to GAS . Hmmmmmm......
N. Bugeja
Jan 28th, 18:30
Glad to see I'm not the only one here who couldn't decide whether to laugh or to cry when I read that!
Neil Dent
Jan 28th, 18:44
Now THAT is what's truly "incredible", Karmenu Vella. By the way - where's that PL/MLP electoral programme that you've been supposedly working on for the past year or whatever.
And where are the PL/MLP costings?
Please choose the reason of your report below: