PM asks Muscat to withdraw energy plan
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Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi this morning demanded an apology from Labour Leader Joseph Muscat for his "incorrect and unethical" statement linking the Delimara power station to a high incidence of cancer and asthma.
Dr Gonzi accused Dr Muscat of taking advantage of people's emotions and said using cancer patients in this way was "not on".
Speaking during an interview on Radio 101, he said experts had said there was no link of any sort.
"Experts are saying that cigarettes are the main cause of cancer and Malta has one of the least rates of cancer and asthma incidence. He (Dr Muscat) should make a public apology admitting his mistake because it is unethical," Dr Gonzi said.
The Prime Minister also said that Dr Muscat’s energy plan was endangering the country's finances and economy and asked him to withdraw it.
Dr Muscat was too much of a risk for the country, he said, adding that the financial service sector which Dr Muscat was praising was at stake because of the effects of Labour's electoral promises on the country's finances.
"Let us all learn from the past and not trust Labour because our achievements are at stake," he said.
Dr Gonzi spoke on the findings of a report compiled by auditors KPMG which concluded that tariffs would increase by five per cent with Labour's proposal.
Labour's candidate who was the main spokesman on the proposal, he said, was going round saying he would be Energy Minister if elected so he had a "vested interest" not to listen to criticism and experts who were saying that it was not possible to complete the plan in the established time frame and with that budget.
He referred to the Standard and Poor's downgrade, saying that Dr Muscat, unlike rebel PN MP Franco Debono, said he agreed with the budget so could have easily voted in its favour.
Dr Gonzi repeated his intention to vote in favour of the budget if in Opposition, if nothing else was added.
In a statement this afternoon, the PL said that the Prime Minister's declarations that power stations that used the most pollution oils were not detrimental to health were offensive to families and common sense.
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Edward Mallia
Jan 20th, 19:00
May we have a few FACTS instead of an avalanche of non-fact.
@ Alex Ellul Neither MPS nor old DPS had ANY abatement equipment for gaseous pollutants. MPS had precipitators for fly ash; DPS nothing. Even so MPS much more dangerous than DPS. The BWSC plant has NOx, SOx dust abatement. LPG (propane +butane) in cars has LOW particulate emissions; needs spark ignition. petrol engines easy to adapt.
Raymond Micallef
Jan 20th, 13:36
@Joseph Aquilina
1. Iz-zieda li hadu l Ministri, hadd minnhom ma rritorna l ebda Euro.
2. L-Arriva ghaliex mhux tajba mill ewwel, dan hu transport Pubbliku, essenzjali kuljum, din il-problema taghkom li taccettaw kollox.
3.Il-haddiema tad-drydocks min imexxihom ahjar kellhom bzonn.
4.Insejt meta Gonzi u Gatt qalu li ma hawnx bizzejjed studenti ghall IT u ser ikollna ingibu minn barra!
6.x'ma sarx?
Mary Bisazza
Jan 20th, 10:03
Dr Gonzi must be living on a different planet. "Despite being the most hazardous, coal is still being used by some of the newly-built power stations and, last year, it was used to generate 8.7 per cent of all the new power in Europe." http://bit.ly/W8fXTt
Why has the EU warned Malta about the harm to our health? http://bit.ly/10Jb3Rk
effie stafrace
Jan 20th, 09:43
This is not the PN I knew – John Bencini | 20 January 2013
pat muscat
Jan 20th, 09:03
GonziPN is not even capable of an environmental business scan? It cannot comprehend that there are hundreds of gas powered power stations being built and that natural gas is going to be abundant-some say for some 200 years? Why dig yourself in a deeper hole?
Michael Magri
Jan 20th, 08:56
"PM asks Muscat to withdraw energy plan" Haa.. Haa..
Dr Gonzi you must be joking right.! I think that it would be more polititicaly correct if YOU, would `withdraw` your Shameful ARROGANCE. Your Shameful tactics of Scaremongering.. Your Shameful Spinning and Twisting of the Truth.. Your Shameful `Adjectives` / `Phrases`, personaly addressed to Dr Muscat. ETC.. ETC.. ETC..
SHAME ON YOU SIR.
Mr C Galea
Jan 20th, 00:36
"Dr Gonzi accused Dr Muscat of taking advantage of people's emotions"
Are you for real Mr Gonzi? When ever did you not stop playing with these so called emotions? The Divorce issue was one big emotional ride for all voters and you played a good part in that? So did the Church,have you asked the church leaders involved to apologies?
stephen mifsud
Jan 20th, 00:25
this is what Gonzi did ....took a pay raise of €500 for him and his cronies , he took our city gate project and totally screwed it up with the help of Piano and then Arriva what a mess that is (still miss the old classic buses ) Smart City ???? not so Smart afterall , ....need i go on ?
Alex Ellul
Jan 19th, 23:19
...while if properly maintained chimney flue is scrubbed clean from all particulates and NOx and SOx's gases and what remains is water vapour and CO2.
Remove all diesel engines from the road and lets go for LPG engines.
That's were we should be burning LPG or LNG or CNG, in our vehicles. This will eliminate carcinogenic diesel fumes from our lungs.
Edward Mallia
Jan 20th, 18:11
Two more banana skins Alex.
LPG is a propane-butane mixture much used in Europe as a car fuel; here we have just had empty trumpetings by Min. Pullicino.
LNG and CNG are the same thing - methane CH4, one in Liquid form and one in Compressed Gas form.
They are not normally used in car engines; but there are plenty of city buses powered by CNG.
Michael Camileri
Jan 19th, 23:17
Cigarettes are a very easy scapegoat.
I am more worried about the petrol and diesel vehicles... surely that is worse?
Electric cars are the way forward in Malta.. we are a tiny island
Alex Ellul
Jan 19th, 23:16
Dr. Muscat should propose that we remove all diesel engined cars from the roads since it has been scientifically proven that diesel exhaust from vehicle diesel engines is a carcinogen. We are breathing diesel exhaust all the time. When driving we are a few meters away from the tail pipe of a car. The Delimara chimney is kilometers away, the prevailng winds blow out towards the ocean while ,,,,,,
Alex Ellul
Jan 19th, 23:14
Conclusions
Dr Christopher Portier, Chairman of the IARC working Group, stated that “The scientific evidence was
compelling and the Working Group’s conclusion was unanimous: diesel engine exhaust causes lung
cancer in humans.” Dr Portier continued: “Given the additional health impacts from diesel particulates,
exposure to this mixture of chemicals should be reduced worldwide.“
Alex Ellul
Jan 19th, 23:12
Lyon, France, June 12, 2012 ‐‐ After a week-long meeting of international experts, the International
Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), which is part of the World Health Organization (WHO), today
classified diesel engine exhaust as carcinogenic to humans (Group 1), based on sufficient evidence
that exposure is associated with an increased risk for lung cancer.
Charles Massa
Jan 19th, 21:38
U xiinhuma l alternattivi tieghek sur prim ministru? Inhallu heavy fuel oit, biex tniggez l arja. Jew power station li tibqa tahdem biz zejt u izzid il kontijiet ta dawl/ilma bhal ma qalulek tal Europa. Il PN ilu 25 sena fil gvern u ma ghamel xejn fil qasam tal energija. Issa ghax il PL hareg bi proposti serji, il prim ministru qabdu paniku
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 19th, 22:25
Charles Massa, taf li l-emmissjonijiet mil powerstation tal BWSC iridu jobdu ligi tal-Unjoni Ewropea dwar l-arju nadif tal-2008? Taf li id-duhhan jigi iffiltrat u ir-residwi li jingabru jahznuhom f'silos biex imbaghad jiddisponu minnhom kif suppost?
Paniku Muscat ghax l-esperti kollha qalu li il-plan tieghu ma jistax izehh. Mhux ha jkun hemm rohs ta 25% u lanqas terminal tal gass f'sententejn.
martin brincat
Jan 20th, 09:59
Wiehed tajjeb li jkun jaf li l-heavy fuel oil (HFO) ahna l-maltin insejhulu QATRAN.
Joe Fenech
Jan 19th, 21:26
"Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi this morning demanded an apology from Labour Leader Joseph Muscat for his "incorrect and unethical" statement linking the Delimara power station to a high incidence of cancer and asthma. "
Who are the experts? Are any of the experts foreign and independent? How can deny the obvious?
lzammit zammit
Jan 19th, 23:28
Mhux ahjar tghidilna min huma l-esperti tal power station li se jghamel il Labour
Clayton Bartolo
Jan 19th, 23:37
probaly the same experts mr austin gatt & mr delia engaged for the public transport reform....hell yea this goverment aint a shame?
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 19th, 21:12
Meaning that no one can say that HFO has eitehr a bad nor a neutral effect on publi health in Malta. For sure the smell of HFO fumes is enough to trigger an asthma attack at least to me. Happens to me quite everytime I drive past the materials storage tanks if I do not hold my breath.
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 19th, 21:08
Its too early in the day to scientifically infere any health effects of burning HFO. What is tough sure is that LNG is a much cleaner and thus healthier option to HFO. Especially in view of the fact that results for HFO emmissios (actual measured) have never been divulged.
M Gatt
Jan 19th, 21:04
http://www.mag.com.jo/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23&Itemid=33
This is a portfolio of some of the work of one of these electricity plant installation companies. Plants of 400MW as one can see have been completed in less than 2 years!
Andrew Cumbo
Jan 19th, 22:04
M. Gatt thank you for the link. Hope those that have nothing more than negative attitude change their minds when they read this website, and realise that PL proposal can materialise in the stipulated time said.
Wilfred Camilleri
Jan 19th, 23:01
Apples and oranges. No two plants have the same requirements. And that didn't include the strict requirements for environmental assessment that the EU requires. Also, the plants wasn't built on a bay like Malta's would. And it doesn't depend on ships being built to ferry the LNG.
B.C. Borg
Jan 19th, 23:42
Completion in 20 months!!
K Grech
Jan 20th, 03:46
http://www.alstom.com/power/gas-power/turnkey-power-plants/simple-cycle/
here is another example, took only 16 months to complete, its less than the PL is saying.
PL will surely go for the best option which suites the country's pocket, not austin and the gank's one with a commission of about 4 million over yellow pages.
Wilfred Camilleri
Jan 20th, 15:01
Both examples cited above are companies touting their technologies. Of course they're going to provide the rosiest pictures to sell their technology! Again, the second example cited by Mr. Grech doesn't take into account environmental assessments and the special requirements that would be needed for Malta's plant!
M Gatt
Jan 20th, 18:58
Mr. Wilfred camilleri can you please provide your credentials that make your opinion on the energy sector so solid?
Mario Camilleri
Jan 19th, 20:10
"Dr Gonzi accused Dr Muscat of taking advantage of people's emotions and said using cancer patients in this way was "not on".
Taf tistħi Sur Gonzi, mela nsejt meta siħbek Simon xebbaħ in-nuqqas ta' mediċini mal-'grocer' li ma jkollux fuq l-ixkaffa? Tal-mistħija!!
twanny borg
Jan 19th, 20:05
kieku veru familja kollha timrad bl-azma kieku hemm familji u hafna nies ohra fl-inhawi morda wkoll. ghaldaqstant wiehed ghandu jara jekk hux kaz ta' azma genetika tintired. il-pn nehha x-xarabanks il-qodma naqqas hafna mit-tniggis. veru ghall-ewwel l-arriva holqot problemi imma is-servizz qed jitjieb. il-fatt li naqas it-tniggiz l-arriva kienet success.
Glenn Zammit
Jan 19th, 20:31
Powerstation nadifa trid tghid ghadna ux ? hahaha nice one. Arriva fjask totali mil bidu kien. Fejn apparti it traffic li zdid u mhux kif qal Mr Buzulotti Spiccaw li traffic naqas ghax gonzi stess bix jevita t traffic jispicca jirrikorri ghal muturi tal puluzija bix iwarbu.
Clinton Magro
Jan 20th, 09:19
Dazgur nimaginak tuza l Arriva kuljum lilek... wara sena u fuqhom imisshom iperfezjonaw mhux ghadhom qedin jitjiebu .... zzzZZZzzZZzzzz ... shhh you might wake twanny
twanny borg
Jan 19th, 19:57
........."About inheritance and genetics:Inheritance of Asthma refers to whether the condition is inherited from your parents or "runs" in families. The level of inheritance of a condition depends on how important genetics are to the disease. Strongly genetic diseases are usually inherited, partially genetic diseases are sometimes inherited, and non-genetic diseases are not inherited".......
michael scicluna
Jan 19th, 19:53
http://ppp.worldbank.org/public-private-partnership/sector/energy
Anthony Borg
Jan 19th, 19:49
Dr Gonzi ghax ma taghmilx survey dwar is-sahha . U taraw mill liema parti ta malta ibaghtu l-aktar bil kancer u l'azma... Dwar dan ma hemmx blue ,ahmar jeww ahdar..
Andrew Cumbo
Jan 19th, 19:46
Hope that after 9th March it will be you that will be withdrawn and all those arrogant around you. You brought this country in ruin state with a debt of 5 billion Euros. You continued bringing Airmalta and Enemalta in a critical financial situation. Without shame and with undemocratic way you granted yourself and the others €500 a week increase. Your time is up now we have had enough.
Glenn Zammit
Jan 19th, 20:32
tort tal labour party ukoll habib. Nahseb anka il power cut tal bierah tort tal labour ukoll . Ghax dan l ahhar jigri x jigri il labour jahti
J Cutajar
Jan 19th, 19:46
Sur Prim ministru isthi jekk taf. Veru qed nghixu f'anarkija
Grace Delicata
Jan 19th, 19:39
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120503/local/Asthma-on-the-rise-from-indoor-lifestyle.418052
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120511/local/asthma-plague-growing.419257
These two articles, carried in the Times i the last year, seem to indicate that the statement 'Malta has one of the least rates of cancer and asthma incidence' is incorrect.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 19th, 19:36
I wonder why lejber still keeps secrets from the Maltese ... why they do not want to show all the details about their plans ... What is the nationality of the countries/companies intrested in this project!?
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 20:34
Joseph? Were you in cuckooland for the past five years? Your dearest GozniPN didn't publish the contract with BWSC (swietilna 160 miljun--u ma tahdimx) or the contract with St.Philip's(swielna 12 il-miljun) did it?
Glenn Zammit
Jan 19th, 20:35
because a political party like gonzi pn that have not shown his plans about green energy will sure try to ruin labour party's plans by going to these interested investors and try to scare these companies away.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 19th, 23:30
Hi Joseph, again you are being negative about LP. You have to admit that your beloved PN is out of touch with what,s happening in Malta and you also have to admit that LP is a breath of fresh air after 25 years of the same people with the same ideas. In the coming days I will try to convince you to give your support the other Joseph (Muscat)
P Mangion
Jan 19th, 19:23
is it true that YOU believe that a Power Station can be build in two years?
michael scicluna
Jan 19th, 19:57
Jekk temmen fi standards Nazzjonalisti....le!
Andrew Cumbo
Jan 19th, 20:03
Mela aħna bhalkom biex bnejtu sptar għamiltu 17 il- sena. Għalhekk dawn affarijiet impossibli għalikom għax intom mhux kapaci.
Robert Lewis
Jan 19th, 20:19
@P.Mangion. Have you ever been to the Med Conference Centre in Valletta, which is much more nicer then the roofless theatre. That was finished in 3 months.
Victor Calleja
Jan 19th, 21:31
open
http://www.mag.com.jo/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23&Itemid=33
A Vella
Jan 19th, 19:16
What about the trab iswed? In numru ta nies li jbatu bl-asthma??
Joseph Portelli
Jan 19th, 19:15
kemm aw min sar jifhem aktar mill-esperti! kemm aw min mhux qed jirrealizza li l-kabinett tal-ministri tal-Prim Ministru Joseph Muscat se jkun ta' aktar minn 20 ministru (hafna minnhom ta' zmien l-80's) u l-ispiza ta' dawn il-ministeri kollha ser tkun ferm oghla mill-500Euro fil-gimgha!
Joseph Attard
Jan 19th, 20:01
Tiskanta kemm hawn min hu espert. Ma' kontx naf li Dr Muscat ġie jgħid lilek kemm se jagħmel ministri u min se jkunu!
Aaron Mallia
Jan 19th, 19:15
Dr.Gonzi is in a state of panic !! Loser !!
Kevin Agius
Jan 19th, 19:06
Prosit Mr Ray Micallef..... ezatt veru ma jafx jisthi.....
Raymond Micallef
Jan 19th, 18:33
Inti skuzajt ruhek:
1. 500 Euro zieda bil mohbi.
2. Disaztru tal - Arriva.
3. Mal-haddiema tad drydocks, li telqu u issa s-Sid il gdid qed jaghmel il-qliegh.
4.Ma l-istudenti li dahlu ghall korsijiet fl-IT biex jahdmu Smart City u lanqas dahal hadd.
5.Ma l-anzjani li jidhlu fl-isptar u jkollhom jqattghu hin twil fuq strecther!!!
6.Mal-poplu Malti kollu talli ma wasaltx bil - wedghiet tieghek. leee
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 19th, 19:33
1. 500 Euro zieda bil mohbi.
> The money was returned
2. Disaztru tal - Arriva.
> The situation is now much better. We have busses that do not polute.
3.Mal-haddiema tad drydocks
> Why? The drydocks was dead weight on the country
4. Ma l-istudenti li dahlu ghall korsijiet fl-IT
> They are finding plenty of work in other companies.
6. Mal-poplu Malti kollu...
> +90% of promises delivered
marius mifsud
Jan 19th, 20:30
@mr aquilina: no the money were not returned! check your facts
G Schembri
Jan 19th, 20:39
@ Joseph Aquilina
1. 500 Euro zieda bil mohbi.
You are misinformed - the 500 euro was never returned, Dr Gonzi is not saying wether or not they will take the 500euro weekly salary rise if they are re elected into government. As for the Arriva situation of course it improved it couldn'tget any worse could it? The service in certain localities is still worse than the previous bus service.
Anthony Neil Pace
Jan 19th, 23:24
@Joseph Aquilina
4> There are NO jobs at all in the IT Industry for new students. I should know, I'm a hard working student in IT.
The only jobs that are available, even for Basic staff, the companies require minimum 2 years experience.
Not only that, but MCAST is a decade behind in terms of their syllabi, and the premises within which we work is collapsing on it's self. So shut up please.
V Mercieca
Jan 19th, 18:30
Dr Gonzi int veru ma tafx xini misthija.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 19th, 18:25
FINANZI FIS - SOD ??
Gonz pn knows that Poverty in Malta increased by 89,000 people
And didn't do nothing about it He reminds me of >>>-------->
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1TXIeHtSTx4/UKo3X0hcqUI/AAAAAAAAA48/JewZbjF3t0g/s1600/scrooge039-web.jpg
Paul Giordimaina
Jan 20th, 06:06
Mr Brincat nixtieq li jien fqir bhal dawn in nies li qed issemi immur gita fis sena nohrog niekol fxi restaurant nixtri id djar nixtri il karozzi nilbes lahjar ilbies u mitt haga ohra veru li mintkom happy bxejn issa forsi taqtaw xewqitkom u jitla zeppi u jkolkom kollox bxejn.
Tyrion Lannister
Jan 19th, 18:18
Pt 2 of comment.
Having this alternative source will surely be a positive move and we will reap the benefits from it, whether 1 year or 5 years down the line..
Malcolm Farrugia
Jan 19th, 18:14
GonziPn more panicked than usual!
Joe Busuttil
Jan 19th, 18:02
It's you who should apologize to the people for giving them the most polluting power station. You really have a cheek ,Dr Gonzi. Malta is so small that the power station affects all of us (not my opinion but that of an expert in cancer.)
M Gatt
Jan 19th, 18:11
To add to what you said; Gonzi has the nerve to criticize labour's energy plan after 5 years of spending our money on trial and error projects which as you know, most failed. in 2008, he said that he is projecting a surplus in the next 2-3 years! Instead we have a record breaking deficit. Can Dr. Gonzi explain that instead of trying to put doubt about Joseph Muscat?
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 18:18
The most polluting power station record was at the time Coal was used, because EVEN when it was not in use, coal dust was everywhere! But you were probably hibernating then!
Johnny Xerri
Jan 19th, 19:22
Mr. Borg,
at the time of that power station, coal was a normal fuel. At this day & age; gas or renewable energy is the norm. Thus Gone-zi PN is heading back in time & not being proactive & modern.
Moreover, why he power station meant to be up & running in June 2012 & now in Jan 2013 is still not functional? Teething probs...lol...more like a whole jawline prob!!!
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 19:23
No I was not. I was trying to get Enemalta to improve the conditions of the truck drivers taking radioactive coal ash to Benghijsa, where it still is. And getting labelled as a trouble maker by Ninu Zammit, then in charge of Enemalta. The switch to HFO, also under Zammit, was an improvement.
P Mangion
Jan 19th, 19:26
Joe, Memorja Qasira ! What did the Marsa Power station do when it was fired with coal? Ask the Marsa residents!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 19th, 18:01
This is truly funny ! Dr. Gonzi asking Dr. Muscat to withdraw the much-studied (over 3 years) plan when Dr. Gonzi has not yet announced his own party's plan, which is just being hurriedly prepared NOW ( in 2 weeks) after having been caught with his pants down by the PL?s plan !
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 18:21
Eddie. Your comment shows that you are day dreaming, or hibernating. PN has not only been proposing, BUT ACTING! To start with, the 2013 budget includes part of the proposals, if you are aware! Intelligent people normally KNOW this! And this budget was given 'like :-)' by PL. Other proposals include: tunnel; pipeline; jobs for Gozo; ALL ARE NOW BEING peoposed by PL! Copycats.
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 19th, 19:04
Eddy, Joseph Muscat does not even has his pants on let alone being down. He was not even capable of formulating his own budget and want to take over the PN budget on a plate. How can he be credible of building a power station which is well off the mark from all aspects.
The electorate are still waiting for Konrad Mizzi to come up with the promised agreements. In the meantime keep on guessing.
Johnny Xerri
Jan 19th, 19:23
Mr Borg, how can the Pl be copy cats when the PN has not even uttered one single proposal.
P Mangion
Jan 19th, 19:33
Eddy, i am sure you remember better times when Malta was governed by your friend Mintoff and Karmenu. (Sant did not have the time to show us how successful was the removal of VAT was going to be) At that time we had NO problems with power stations, water and pollution. It is a pity that PN was elected and we lost freedom of speech.
Tyrion Lannister
Jan 19th, 17:58
I don't understand why the PN is so hell bent on shooting down a viable plan. Even if the plan goes slightly over the timescales or the prices don't instantly go down, is it not a good thing that Malta will be implementing a cleaner energy source? That we will be preparing our country for more energy use down the line? That we will have an 'energy mix' and not be so dependent on one source???
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 18:23
The last time PN were so hell bent to shoot down a 'viable plan' was in 1996. They SAID that removing VAT was a disaster. And they were proven right! When Dr Gimmicks realised his mistake, re stepped down, and WE suffered.
Johnny Xerri
Jan 19th, 19:27
Mr Borg,
When PN make a 'mistake' such as
(1) The €500/week salary increase.
(2) The arriva fiasco.
(3) The St. Philips (pjacir) take over.
(4) The BWSC HFO power station (that still is not 100% functional and delayed by already 7 months due to teething probs)
(5) Smart (or rather stupid) city.
We suffer & suffer & suffer...coz nobody is accountable & nobody resigns...
Tyrion Lannister
Jan 19th, 21:54
@Joe M Borg
You are comparing two completely different subjects by two different party leaders nearly 20 years apart, so not a very solid argument.
Also with your own reasoning a lot of PN government members should have stepped down by now as there have been a lot of mistakes done during PN legislature.
Pav Elliot
Jan 19th, 17:55
National debt as @ Dec 2007 was EUR 3,380,000,000 or 62.1% of GDP
National debt as @ Dec 2012 was EUR 5,008,000,000 or 75% of GDP
Finance Minister Fenech, missed each and every target he set.
Yes, there was good coming from GPN but we paid too high a price for the good achieved as can be seen.
The PM should have managed his team better. Voters will now decide. That is democracy.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 19th, 17:44
Dear Gonzi care taker pm is telling Dr Muscat to withdraw the energy plan
way because it is embarrassing him HA HA HI as they say >> from a KING to a JOKER
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/dedmazay/dedmazay1111/dedmazay111100046/11271996-joker-on-a-white-background-vector-illustration.jpg
mario genovese
Jan 19th, 17:42
I live in Tigne 4 levels up and yet my apartment is always full of unwanted and unwarranted particals. Can Gonzi's expert enlighten me?
Carmel Serracino-inglott
Jan 19th, 20:31
Mention the unwanted particles please otherwise your statement is worthless. I also live in Tigne 4 levels up incidentally.
m. borg (slm)
Jan 19th, 17:32
Mr gonzi if any withdrawing needs be done it should be you together with Toni Fenech withdrawing from the race and give the party a chance to get a mild beating instead of the thrashing that awaits you.
ARROGANCE gains nobody anything.
George Cutajar
Jan 19th, 17:29
Such negativity from the Labour side. This is Malta and not Spain, Italy, Greece or Cyprus thanks to LG and the PN . You kept your jibs, still receive pensions in full, still get free healthcare and education and generally live well because the PN is not a populist movement like the PL. if the PN looses the coming election it will go out with head held high .
David Scicluna
Jan 19th, 17:38
Head held high only because they have become so arrogant.
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:46
George PL supporter want to experiment with change, just as they did in 1996, and trusted PL. They had the 'winning team' then, and the magic formula (VAT). Another similarity is that what to do AFTER VAT is removed was unveiled AFTER election: CET & 33 taxes. This time, AGAIN, they are going to reveal the whole 'plan' AFTER election. Can't wait to see the CET parallel!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 19th, 17:51
George: Alla jaf kemm hawn eluf ta' nies li kienu emmnu lil dan il-bniedem fl-2008 u jiddispjacihom illum li hallewh jidhaq bihom ! Kaccaturi, Nassaba, u l-familji raghhom, haddiema tal-GO, Tarzna, Sea Malta, Karozzi tal-linja, Air Malta etc.. etc., Gonzi ghadu sa llum ma talabx mahfra tal-ingann li ngannahom ! TISTA TAFDAH 5 SNIN OHRA ??????????????
GRACE PAVIA
Jan 19th, 17:56
Is this the joke of the century? How dare you and your party insult the taxpayer in such an arrogant way?
George Cutajar
Jan 19th, 19:02
@Eddy Privitera - nassikurak li lest nafda lill minn dahhalna fl-Ewropa, dahhalna fl-Euro, kien kapaci jiehu decizjonijiet li setghu tellfuh il-voti, lill minn salva l-impjiegi u zamm il- weghda ta' edukazzjoni u sahha b'xejn u mhux lest nafda lill min ghalih l-Ewropa kienet il-mazzra tal- millenju. Mhux lest nafda lill min iwieghed biex jinghogob u ghall- konvenjenza.
Giocchino Attard
Jan 19th, 19:14
If your gonzi is so good why would he loose the election?
Louis Craus
Jan 19th, 17:26
Isa ara x'qallek Joseph dak li kisser pajjiz,u partit,........tant li gejna downgraded ghas- second .
Pajjiz mimli b'miljuni ta'miljuni ta' Euro dejn.
Joseph Portelli
Jan 19th, 17:43
u safrattant is-sahha b'xejn u l-istudenti jithallsu ghax ikomplu jistudjaw !!!
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:47
Lil Anglu mhux Gonzi kissru.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 19th, 18:20
Josephh Portelli: Zewg affarijiet li dahhalhom gvern laburista . Grazzi !
George Cutajar
Jan 19th, 19:06
@ Eddy - jien ma nafx liema edukazzjoni b' xejn dahhal il- gvern tal-Labour ghax biex ilhaqt imnalla il-genituri tieghu ghamlu sagrificji kbar. Taf li fl1984 kien hemm 700 student l-universita u llum hemm 700 kors. Dwar is- sahha b'xejn ma kienx gvern Nazzjonalista li impona taxxa fuq ir- ricetta tal - medicina.
A Vella
Jan 19th, 19:19
@Joe M Borg dik accountability hi. Franco DEbono, Jesmond Mugliett and JPO xi tghidli dwarhom?
Robert Lewis
Jan 19th, 17:24
Cannot understand what the issue about Vat/Cet mentioned yesterday is all about. What about the 12 million euro fraud in the Vat Dept under Tonio's Ministry. How much money was paid back and what happened to who ever was involved. Even last night we didnt hear anything about the 4 million euro commission paid for the BWSC power station. U zgur li "Finanzi fis-sod" misshom m'ghumhiex ukoll.
Joseph Portelli
Jan 19th, 17:21
kemm aw min sar jifhem aktar mill-esperti! kemm aw min mhux qed jirrealizza li l-kabinett tal-ministri tal-Prim Ministru Joseph Muscat se jkun ta' aktar minn 20 ministru (hafna minnhom ta' zmien l-80's) u l-ispiza ta' dawn il-ministeri kollha ser tkun ferm oghla mill-500Euro fil-gimgha!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 19th, 17:52
Joseph Portelli: Jaqaw il-Kabinett tal-PL INT se tghamlu biex taf kemm se jkollu memberi u min se jkunu ?
Robert Lewis
Jan 19th, 17:59
Almenu igawdu 20 mhux 10.
G Schembri
Jan 19th, 20:50
Ghidilna min huma dawn l-20 ta zmien it-80ijiet ghax nahseb anqas hemm 20 li se jikkontestaw ahseb u ara kemm se jilhqu ministri.
Paul Borg
Jan 19th, 17:18
GONZI is officially in....Panico e Paura....Panico e Paura !!!!!!!!!! u Austin Gatt iwahhal f-Kullhadd.....
Michael borg
Jan 19th, 17:45
Couldn't agree more issa ghax se jaqgha qed juri li hu ddisprat
Ivan Cocker
Jan 19th, 17:16
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=514&tid=91
In addition, IARC considers that there is not enough information (Group 3 classification) available to determine if distillate (light) fuel oils or distillate (light) diesel fuels cause cancer. They have also determined that occupational exposures to fuel oils during petroleum refining are probably carcinogenic to humans (Group 2A classifi.)
Ivan Cocker
Jan 19th, 17:15
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=514&tid=91
The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that residual (heavy) fuel oils and marine diesel fuel are possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B classification).
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 17:11
@ Karl Bugeja
I was on the Local C. group that contested the IPPC permit for use of HFO in DExt.
But I still say that Dr. Muscat's statement had more politics than sense. MXlokk's Rosario Incorvaja in The Times today "No one is talking except the politticians. The three local councils surrounding the power station have not even ventured to say a word". If they have data why not show it to us?
Pippo de Marco
Jan 19th, 17:11
'Joseph, your energy plan appears to be very popular and it is causing me a lot of embarrassment, so will you please withdraw it ?'
The desperate plea of a desperate man.
E Bonnici
Jan 19th, 17:10
What does it cause a power station as such, diabetes then? How can one deny such a fact that a power station is nothing but unhealthy. Am not saying that cars emissions do not cause respiratory problems, but a power station doesn't?
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:25
That's true, Mr Bonnici, but if Joseph's claim that cancer is related to the power station because of it's proximity, then Gozo should be cancer free!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 19th, 17:56
Joe M. Borg: The cancer in question is LUNG CANCER since there are numerous other cancers. How about ASTHMA ? Or have we forgotten this disease afflicting mostly people living in proximity of power stations ?
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Jan 19th, 17:00
I am glad that DR LAWRENCE GONZI is already contemplating being IN OPPOSITION...........I totally am not in conformity that this citizen keeps being referred to as PRIME MINISTER...............a CARE TAKER PM is not a PRIME MINISTER.......this country has been without a constitutional Prime Minister since Monday evening, December 10th, 2012...in accordance with what our supreme law dictates.
George Cutajar
Jan 19th, 17:21
Emmy your comments are ever so co(s)mic.
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:29
Emmy, remember that he was, and STILL IS a bit more popular than YOU are, at least comparing your votes to his. And he did a BIT more good to Malta than you did. His party has been in government for 15 years, while yours......
Mr C Galea
Jan 20th, 07:23
ditto
GRACE PAVIA
Jan 20th, 07:28
An infantile attack on a person's principles rather than an attack on the arguments being raised!! But when will party blinkered defenders (and in these situations it seems GonziPNisti excel) realise that the Maltese are no longer a herd of bumpkins.
m. borg (slm)
Jan 19th, 17:00
It is gonzi who should apologise for asking us to make sacrifices, increased our energy bills lowered our standard of living and driving almost 80,00 over the poverty line while giving HIMSELF and his cabinet of incompetents a weekly €500 raise and a double honoraria.
What a cheek in maltese we say "Ghandu il-gilda ta' wiccu ehxen minn ta' kukkudrill" jew "Wiccu infurat"
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:30
'Asking us to make sacrifices'.. This reminds me of 'tightening the belt', 'wage freeze', and other statements under MLP.
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 16:57
1.@ James Grech: I said cancer and DPS not cancer and PS in general+ no hint that M'Xlokk & Marsa are paradise or that one should not try to remedy.
2. @ A. Leone Ganado
IPPC permit condition: MEPA monitoring equipment in M'Xlokk & B'Bugia C. bldgs. A troika including a Loc.C. rep. had charge. No results ever published. Why? The "political" statement just issued by MXlokk C. is no substitute.
m. borg (slm)
Jan 19th, 16:56
IF anybody needs to amke any apologies its the PM himself who forthe last 8 years has been joy riding together with his family and friends and friends of friends with the people's tax money.
Apologise for throwing away a free gas line for the benefit of the fuel oil barons.
Apologise for scrapping emission laws to make way for BWSC HFO plant and their €4 million commissions.
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 16:53
I think if GonziPN' apologist are believing Dr Gonzi; they should sign a paper to opt out of cheaper bills Dr Muscat would be giving us a year or so. This would be a win win situation for everybody!
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:32
Why didn't YOU opt out of cheaper bills in 1998, when Dr Gimmick raised the tariffs? Lead by example, and do it yourself.
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 23:35
@Joe M Borg.
Hallejt f'idejn par idejn sodi u issa skond 'Standard and Poor's kulhadd jaf fejn dawn wasluna: gharkubtejna b'dejn li Malta qatt ma rat bhalu: anqas fi zmien Monroy!
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Jan 19th, 16:52
According to S&P and other agencies it is the debt that PN Governments produced that are endangering the country's finances and economy. Like such debt did to other countries in the Euro Zone.
Many are still waiting for an apology from the PN.
For the 60 years that the PN fought against the Maltese language.
For wanting to join Malta with Fascist Italy.
For using religion to grap power
Eric Bonello
Jan 19th, 16:50
PT4. at you own cost. I have no doubt that if elected JM would want to be a successful PM like every other PM we had in this country but he took it to another extreme by implying that if the E&W proposal fails he would resign, which means that right or wrong we have to shoulder the consequences as JM would do whatever it takes to fulfil his pre-election promise and save his face
Eric Bonello
Jan 19th, 16:50
PT3. This is the same person who most of the commenters here are glorifying. This is the same person, who for partisan reasons voted against your budged …I mean how shallow minded can you be, can you not read between the lines there is not energy plans, there are no studies to show up for it, there is nothing accept a political pledge that at all cost JM would satisfy his pre-election promises
Eric Bonello
Jan 19th, 16:49
PT2.What more proof do you need that the E&W proposal is a gimmick, Konrad Mizzi failed you, he promised you that he will publish a copy of the Fixed price agreements in front of the camera no sooner that camera was off he vanished went into hiding. Same yesterday your dear leader JM was repeatedly asked about this & on each occasions with a smirk on his face he ducked the questions
Eric Bonello
Jan 19th, 16:49
PT1.I am amazed at these comments from MLP voters, we are weeks away from going to the polls, you people will without any doubt be paying more taxes to finance the shortcomings from the MLP E&W proposal and rather than seeking the truth and demanding for more transparency from the MLP your all here criticizing a PM who against all odds safeguarded your jobs
Chris Xuereb
Jan 19th, 16:46
Tghidu x tghidu il gimmick station ta Muscat brodu imma jien favur ghax bis sahha tal projett ikollu jirrezenja.
Igri jibnija ha nehilsu.
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:40
Mhux il-power station il-propju gimmick, imma l-proposti lil kulhadd. Qal li l-finanzi dizastru, u Alla jbierek jaf li ghandu finanzi biex jipproponi mijiet ta' progetti, li kull wiehed jiswa miljuni. Jekk ma jirnexxilux, qal, iwarrab. Prosit, tattika tal-PL! Fl-1998 Sant HEKK ghamel! Falla l-pajjiz bil-VAT/CET, u meta falla, warrab. Halla f-idejn PN biex ipoggi kollox f'postu. Xejn gdid!
Kevin Barun
Jan 19th, 16:32
Why withdraw the energy plan? The only one that withdraws what he say is the PrimeMinister himself.
He wihdrawn the Gimmick that he is going to remove the Fuel Depot from the centre of Birzebbuga and also whitdrawn the gas powerstation Suggestion just to supply us with a good dose of Heavy Fuel Oil Emissions. I talk to lot and lot of Birzebbuga residents. Dont dare say to oppose this proposal
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 17:43
Kevin. Withdraw the energy plan, BECAUSE in 1996 PN told Sant to withdraw the VAT gimmick. PL persisted, and DISASTER. Similarly, PN told PL to change their views about Local councils; EU; Euro; computers. And as always, PN is proven to have been right. Even in the case of the DEPUTY, PL dragged behind! The budget is another example. Similarly: tunnel; pipeline...They ALWAYS drag behind!
Anton Agius
Jan 19th, 16:31
in addition I have to a point out, that the fuel used per se does not determine "how c;ean" or otherwise the power station is..... A power station can run coal (dirtier than HFO) and be relatively clean, it all depends on the waste gas treatment plant.....
Anton Agius
Jan 19th, 16:27
people seem to be confusing issues.... the problem with Labour's energy "plan" is not the fuel. Nobody doubts the fact that gas is much cleaner option than gasoil, HFO or coal... As we say, however, "the devil, is in the detail" and for some odd reason Labour is shying away from publishing its costings. I think that if we are to believe Labour than we have to see how it reached the conclusions
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:37
Like the VAT issue, we will learn the details AFTER they are elected. In the VAT issue, the 'detail' was CET and 33 taxes. In THIS issue.....wait and see. AFTER election. Like in VAT, it will be too late then. Ah, yes, Joseph said that if it fails, he leaves. Typical of PL. Sant did the same. He damaged Malta's econmoy, then 'left', leaving the job of restarting to PN.
Eric Bonello
Jan 19th, 17:02
....without the fixed price agreement the proposal would not be feasible and the utilities bills will increase. plus if ths proposal fails to attract investors we have to fork out the money to save JM from quiting.
Alex Dalli
Jan 19th, 16:25
Rome is burning! The collapse is round the corner!
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:38
Yes, Rome is burning, and Anglu and family have already evacuated.
Ray Bonello
Jan 19th, 16:41
and instead of playing the fiddle he plays with people's lives.
Ray Bonello
Jan 19th, 16:59
@ J.M. Borg
Yes together with Mugliette, Franco Debono, Pullicino orland, Schiavone and so many others.
B Vella
Jan 19th, 16:23
And imagine if he will be giving another term...............!!!
M. Bezzina
Jan 19th, 16:20
Kif nista nafdak meta l kontijiet ser jergaw jolew!!
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:34
Sur Bezzina. Mela emmnu lil Joseph li se jrahhas. Anki tifel zghir jifhem li mpossibbli trahhas meta l-gas IKTAR GHOLI, u meta qed iwieghed kollox lil kulhadd. Kull proposta li qed jghamel Joseph tiswa l-miljuni. Ma qalilniex li l-finanzi ta' Malta falluti? Liema se nemmnu, li falluti, jew li hemm min fejn iwieghed kollox lil kulhadd? Sakemm ma sabx il-lampa ta' Aladdin!
Mr B Busuttil
Jan 19th, 16:17
issa jaqbez xmun .. jirepeti l istess affarijiet... u li jaf kollox
M. Bezzina
Jan 19th, 16:16
PM ghax ma rajtx il kuntratt li ghamilt int tal BWSC li qallek bih Franco debono.....jew dak il kuntratt li kien ser ikollna bxejn min and l ENI!!!B XEJN eh mhux bil flus hallina tridx!!!Ara hadd ma jara taht Ghabtu!!
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:11
Joseph Muscat disagreed with 3 professionals about the connection between the power station and cancer. If Profs Joseph Muscat is right about his assumption, and the South IS suffering more from cancer because of the proximity of the power station, then Gozo should be cancer free!
Ms Sandra Grech
Jan 19th, 16:43
Exactly. He's just assuming, how very unscientific and unethical. A lot of people around me, including family have cancer and I live in the North. So what does that mean?
anton portelli
Jan 19th, 18:18
We all wish that gozo is cancer free,after reading some time ago, how shamefully patients are treated and cured in gozo!!!
anton portelli
Jan 19th, 16:09
Nesa il prim ministru taghna meta fgana bit trab iswed mil marsa power station.meta ghamilna xi sitt xhur minghajr filters!!!!
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:32
U inti nsejt meta l-PL bena l-Alpi suwed fil-Marsa. Insejtu t-trab iswed tal-faham?
Carmel Vella
Jan 19th, 16:04
Dr Gonzi is like a fish: the more he opens his mouth the more he comes into trouble!
Carmel Vella
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 19th, 16:03
Gonzi pn tell Dr Muscat to apology ???
Dear Gonzi pn you have stopped taking the 600 Euro increase
but you still own the nation the backdated which you haven't given
Adrian Buckle
Jan 19th, 15:59
Can someone take the PM aside and tell him how ridiculous he sounds when he talks like this?
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:30
Probably they are still telling Joseph how ridiculous his ideas abou Iceland, Cyprus, EU, Euro, VAT were.
Michael Gatt
Jan 19th, 15:55
I agree with the labour stand
Noel Mifsud
Jan 19th, 15:55
Apology itloba int lil poplu li sallabtu b dal kontijiet u int hadt zball li hadt 500 euros u mma tajtomx lura
Clinton Magro
Jan 19th, 15:55
Hehe a simple search and you have your answer. These are all Material Safety Datasheets which contain safety information about Heavy Fuel Oil. Most of the information is only relevant if you ever get in contact with it but .... BUT read what happens when you burn it... read what happens when you inhale.... now that's something for all of us!
http://goo.gl/CdtxC
C Busuttil
Jan 19th, 15:53
X' tistenna minn ivvota bil-qalb biex ikollna kontijiet bhal dawn li hawn
X'tistenna minghand min ha 500 zieda minn wara dar kulhadd
X'tistenna minghand min jiehu gost jara l-piz jingarr mill-poplu
Dr. Gonzi ergajt ghamilt il-PN, il-Partit tas-Sinjur, dak kollu li ghamel Eddie kissirtu mhux biss il-pajjiz anke il-partit, li qatt ma kien daqshekk maqsum. Herba shiha huwa wirt tat-tmexxija tieghek
Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:50
Mr. Gonzi knows that there are no flaws to the new energy system plan. It has been under scrutiny for the last week and a half and if there was a flaw the nationalist would obviously inflate the cause so that it would be banned for life. Its useless Mr. Gonzi to ask Joseph Muscat to withdraw the plan. Your time is up.
A Farrugia
Jan 19th, 15:49
Prt 2 Dr Gonzi taf kemm ghandek apologiji x''taghmel lejn il poplu Malti, u hallejtna nistennew ...anzi ghax kellek wiehed minn shabek stinat u ma rridx jametti il fjask li gab fil pajjiz minhabba l- arriva int qbizt ghalih u mhux tlabtu jkun responsabli ta ghemilu. Your chance is over now, we have to move forward to a progressive direction under LP . Give us a break will you !!
zammit o
Jan 19th, 15:45
Gonzi needs to listen more to the people who live in the harbour area.
A Farrugia
Jan 19th, 15:43
Issa izzejjed Dr Gonzi, sahha ivvvutajt bil- qalb ghal gholi tal tariffi tal energija, allura tajjeb mela issa jigi il kap tal opp, u jghid li se jrahhas it-tariffi u tridu jarmi il pjan kollu, tajba ukoll din..... PM taf x'imisek armejt il pjan ta meta hadt iz-zieda int, u parti min shabek ta 600 ewro fil gimgha u lilna tajtna ewro u nofs!! Min irrid ha jaqra u jifhem u JIZEN !!
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:28
A 10 year old UNDERSTANDS that to keep up to ALL Joe's promises, SOMEONE will have to pay. The last such gimmick from PL, VAT is an example. VAT was removed, as promised, but WE paid the price: CET & 33 taxes. PN removed or reduced 25 of these.
A Farrugia
Jan 19th, 16:55
@ Joe M Borg, A 10 year old also UNDERSTANDS that a PM ,should be much wiser when it comes to money, spending millions on a bridge to nowhere,instead of reducing waitiing lists in hospital, as I already said giving himself and his friends a 500 ewro week pay rise behind everyone'back and now, he wants JM to withdraw his plan of reducing our elec bills. A thing that a 10 yr old should never do
R. De Giorgo
Jan 19th, 15:38
GAME OVER GONZIPN........Bye Bye !!!
Ray Bonello
Jan 19th, 15:38
Tghid Xmun li stilla qed jilluminah lill-Wenzinu?
Mr Joseph Azzopardi
Jan 19th, 15:34
PT3: "... each 10-µg/m3 elevation in fine particulate air pollution was associated with approximately a 4%, 6%, and 8% increased risk of all-cause, cardiopulmonary, and lung cancer mortality, respectively." http://www.faqs.org/health-encyc/The-Environment-and-Health/The-Environment-and-Health-Air-pollution.html#b
Mr Joseph Azzopardi
Jan 19th, 15:33
PT2: "Studies ... have suggested that air pollution from traffic and the combustion of coal, diesel fuel, and wood, has a modest association with lung cancer risk...it was estimated that 5% of male lung cancers and 3% of lung cancers in women between 1970 and 1994 were related to air pollution." http://lungcancer.about.com/od/whatislungcancer/f/lungcancerairpollution.htm
F Gauci
Jan 19th, 15:39
Kieku kull persuna tinteressa ruhha bhalek u taghmel ir-ricerka taghha, ikollna inqas nies li jaghtu kaz biss dak li jinghad mill-politikanti! Respect!
Mr Joseph Azzopardi
Jan 19th, 16:11
@F Gauci, grazzi hafna! I do my best :)
A. Mizzi
Jan 19th, 15:32
Iva dan bis serjeta? Kemm jiflah ikun bla idejat..... hu u ta' madwaru jew min qieghed imexxih!
Dan ghadu Prim MInistru ?
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:13
L-isbah ideat li smajna ftit ilu kienu dwar Cipru, l-Islanda, il-VAT. Kulhadd ghandu xi jxomm, Sur Mizzi.
Edmond Micallef
Jan 19th, 17:13
@Joe M Borg
And don't forget Ireland - how prosperous we were told they were back them before our joining the EU!
What happened to them now, eh?
Mr Joseph Azzopardi
Jan 19th, 15:31
PT1: "Epidemiologic studies over the last 40 years suggest rather consistently that general ambient air pollution, chiefly due to the incomplete combustion of fossil fuels, may be responsible for increased rates of lung cancer." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8741787
Clinton Magro
Jan 19th, 23:43
U mhux ghalxejn qed tghidlu ... PL hazin u hekk se jibqa jghid... issa igri jasal id 9 ta marzu halli forsi jieqaf iharref.
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jan 19th, 15:30
With the same reasoning the Prime Minister has to apologise to me for hiting me so hard with bills and high cost of Fuels gas and vehicle, is the new trend ghal PN
How low can we go.
Ninu
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:15
Have you asked for, and received an apology from PL for the VAT/CET scam, and the high tariffs when oil was at $12 a barrel?
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 19th, 15:27
Dear GONZI PN you know as we know
that you have only one way left ,and that is >>> ------>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qIOCuBwcTc&playnext=1&list=PL9F37727057E9F74D&feature=results_main
Lawrence Fenech
Jan 19th, 15:27
Gonz first withdraw your repaired BWSC power station, than withdraw the useless and eyesore Parliament Building, than withdraw the halfbaked Theatre, than return the workers to the Dockyard, the workers to the Air Malta, the workers of Sea Malta, return the 500 euros per week you and your clique took behind our backs, maybe you may get a reaction from Joseph. All this is "incorrect and unethical"
Darren Frendo
Jan 19th, 18:15
I think you should first learn how a country should be run a country and then talk I'd dockyard?? Mela ma tafx x inti tghid Jew? Telf kull sena!! Il haddiema tad dockyard jew sabu xoghol Jew hadu somma gmiela. Sea Malta . Tad dahq!! L air malta .. Kellna inahhu il minopolju fis suq Ghalhekk marret hazin l air malta .. It risultat tal low cost air?? Record fit tourismu ghal 3 snin infila
S. Calleja
Jan 19th, 15:26
I have no interest in Maltese politics at this stage, but I can say one thing. I used to live in Fgura and suffered from almost an all year round hay fever ailment, which used to make me feel miserable most of the days in spite of all the medications I used to take. Since I left the island 3 years ago (North Europe, later Australia), I feel like I was born again. Breathing is back to being a joy.
Ms Sandra Grech
Jan 19th, 16:46
Yes even me, that's because of the cars though
S. Calleja
Jan 20th, 02:01
True, but they have cars abroad too, and lots of them too. It must have been something else.
Herman Mercieca
Jan 19th, 15:25
Mela l-ewwel kienu jadu meta kif ha trahsu kemm hatrahsu w meta ha dhabruwa. ghax ghadilhom issa ma ridux jacetawa din il-proposta. Ghadna ma smajna xejn min naha tahom,nahseb ha jikupjaw il-manifest tal PL dawn imdorijien jikupjaw
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:20
Herman Ma semax min imwahhal mal-Onetv. Tant semma' proposti Gonzi, li Joseph ikkopja hafna minnhom. It-tunnel ilu fuq il-pjani tal-PN; il-pipeline; xoghol f'Ghawdex ghall-Ghawdxin; energija solari se tghalaq 10 snin (u Joseph ISSA nduna biha!); budget 2013; child care centres ilhom jezistu; ecc. Dawn ISSA nduna bihom Joseph, u qad jipproponihom. Forsi fl-ahhar telqu lil Cipru.
Joseph Buhagiar
Jan 19th, 15:23
Dr. Gonzi. Please listen to people that really and honestly wish you well. Get rid of the arrogant and promise us that they will not be there whatever happens. Promise us that you will put in place the wistle blower act EFFECTIVE FOR PAST INSANCES TOO. You know what you have to do. I am sure of that. Then, we floating voters will re-consider. But unless you change direction, No way this time!
Malcolm Seychell
Jan 19th, 15:23
We will decide if we want the project and not you
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:24
The last time PL were in power, THEY decided, not us. They decided to scrap VAT, introduce CET and 33 other taxes. PN removed or reduced 25 of these. PL also decided, to 'we' to change stipends into borrowing. They also decided that Switzerland won, not EU. Joseph decided, not 'we' to kick Anglu out of politics. Next time, he will decide what to do with 'us, not we.
Joseph Borg
Jan 19th, 15:22
Jien nahseb li wahda mir raguni ta persentagg gholi ta cancer u asthma mhux il power station biss imma l-arja kollha kemm hi mniggsa li ghadna madwarna. Il bini monstruz li tela u li ghalaq kullimkien. Hafna familji illum lanqas kwarta xemx ma jkollom u il hin kollu bid dawl artificjali mixghul minhabba li difnuwhom bil bini gholi bla limitu ta xejn. X'jimpurta mis sahha il mepa li hi il kagun ta
Michael Grech
Jan 19th, 15:20
Gonzi is the epitome of arrongance. If there is any who may ask Muscat to withdraw his plans, it is the electorate. Does he envison himself as some Sun King (I am the state); one who rules by divine right?
Eve Axiaq
Jan 19th, 15:19
@charles Crrmona
Spekulazzjonijiet ma jieqfux. Jekk tfittex fuq l-istess Press is sena l-ohra ukoll kienu qalu perezempju li d-deheb se jispara l fuq. Ma gara xejn minn dan. Fuq l-istess Press u ohrajn tissemma il 'fracking' tal gas. Fl Amerka isejhulha 'the new Saudi Arabia'.
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 15:16
2. But Dr. Gonzi is in no position to demand withdrawls of "plans". Any apologies for Mercaptan burning; for turning off Marsa precipitators?
Konrad Mizzi is imitating JPO. Prior to 2008 election JPO let it be known that he would be the next Tourism Minister. This gave access to & intervention in closed meetings between a developer (a JPO prestanome!) and DCC board members. No ves. int. there!
Vincent Bezzina
Jan 19th, 15:15
Gonzi has lost all credibility but does not seem to know it. I cannot but wonder if he is just thick or stubborn. He is also in total denial, as he has been about the corruption and incompetence which flourished under his administration. This attitude is in part why so many have complained he is a dictator. In a democracy,he has to abide by the will of the people. Its the divorce debacle again.
Ms Mari Bor
Jan 19th, 15:14
Arrogance!
F Gauci
Jan 19th, 15:13
We've been campaigning against fossil fuels for the past 10 years or so I think, because of all the negative effects they have on human health and environment (The Green House Effect). You should spend more time doing your own research and not be so gullible and believe everything politicians say. It is common sense that heavy fuel oil is a health hazard!
Roy Schembri
Jan 19th, 15:10
Why make promises on energy prices when anyone with half a brain knows that if they pay 25 percent less in energy then they'll pay 25 percent more in tax to fund it. (maybe that's the part Dr Mizzi has forgotten to mention). On the other hand maybe the callow Dr Mizzi got his pluses and minuses mixed up . . . !
Joe M Borg
Jan 19th, 16:26
Deja vu. Vat was removed, and we paid the price: CET.
Karl Bugeja
Jan 19th, 15:09
How low can you go dr gonzi ?!
Ms Jessica Spiteri
Jan 19th, 15:07
Wow, I can't believe this guy.....getting more arrogant on a daily basis
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jan 19th, 15:07
As Joe Biden or other US politicians would say would say we are getting pure malarkey from the PN leader. I suspect he is in denial of the new political reality and believes that "'l'etat c'est moi e mon parti" a delusion which many political parties long in power harbour. Perhaps it is time for some humble pie now that time for fasting is approaching.
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 15:25
But there is still Carnival in between. Surely the PN must make hay while Carnival lasts.
B Vella
Jan 19th, 15:06
Staqsu lil Franco Debono, Mulgiett ,JPO u hafna Nazzjonalisti ohra kemm ghandu rasu iebsa dan il- Prim Ministru. !!!!
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 15:02
1. Dr Muscat was rash in his statements about cancer and DPS especially. Not least because M'Xlokk local Council has said nothing about the pollution measurements they were supposed to be collecting during the BWSC test period. One is doing people a disservice if when they air real complaints one makes no effort to place possible causes in context. No lack of sympathy implied in sensible advice.
Karl Bugeja
Jan 19th, 15:12
Issa inqabdu katusa mic cumniha ghal quddiem il bieb tad dar tieghek sur mallia halli tkun taf x jigifiri !
James Grech
Jan 19th, 15:23
It would have been a rash statement if the relation between HFO-fired plants and ill-health was proven to be non-existent. While this is not the case, cause the relation exists, one should not give the impression that living close to an HFO plant is like living in wonderland either. The risks exist and one should try to address them, sooner rather than later.
Joseph Buhagiar
Jan 19th, 15:27
This may be true, probably it is. But how about if Dr. Gonzi replies to the important questions which all of us know about. He evades them every time. Hundreds of indirect taxes have been dumped on all of us Maltese citizens due to the fact that governments departments continue to over spend year on year. This the important 5000 million dejn. How, why, where, who.................
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jan 19th, 15:44
Does one expect a council to carry out pollution measurements? There should be a continuous moniitoring by the health department. The fact that black dust was being deposited in the South for a number of years and that the precipitators often failed should however raise serious health concerns. Black dust and gas clouds do point to noxious particulates being inhaled by residents of the South
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 16:57
I think that Heavy fuel oil emissions are as clean as they can be; but I am not going to let anyone take a chance on me.
Edric Micallef
Jan 20th, 00:19
The BWSC power station started operating effectively only since last mid December, following the various damages that occurred and which resulted in suspention of the testing period until the steam turbine was back. So, data with the new DPSE in operation were only being taken since mid December. There will be no problem for these to be published. Afterall these are given to Enemalta, MEPA & LC.
Alex Caruana
Jan 19th, 14:58
Dr Debono was not against the budget but against Austin Gatt still in cabinet & how he was right
Ray Bonello
Jan 19th, 15:02
like
twanny borg
Jan 19th, 14:56
Azma u l-kancer rizultat tat-traffiku. Il-bdil tax-xarabank kien success biex jitnaqqas il-mard prosit gonzipn. Dik il-familja minn marsaxlokk li qalet li ghandha fil-familja mard tal-azma trid tghid fejn toqghod ezatt jekk mhux go xi triq dejqa li kienu jghaddu x-xarabanks l-antiki. Fil-kaz trid tghid grazzi lil austin gatt.
Ray Bonello
Jan 19th, 15:12
Grazzi o kbir Agostino Pio.......
Mr Tony Gauci
Jan 19th, 15:15
@ Twanny Borg
Int Bis Serjeta jew ??? kiku kinu success kif qed tejd int ma tarax dan it traffiku fit toroq !!!! jew in ma isqux ??? hallina nejxu. Nahseb int luiku persuna go malta barra il Dr. Gonzi li qed tejt kinu success .....
Malu Rosso
Jan 19th, 15:18
Le twanny borg dik il familja ma toqoghod go xi trid dejqa imma innaha tal power station. Mhux ahjar tuza ftit tal prudenza twanny borg ma nies li qed isofru il mard u mhux biex tiskuza lil gonzipn tiprova twaqqa dubju fuq hadd iehor
Anthony Lee Baldacchino
Jan 19th, 15:22
Int ghandek zejt f`wiccek????? Kif tista titkellem b`dan il-mod fuq nies ma tafhomx. Jien xlukkajr bhal dik is-sinjura, u ibqa CERT li ma tghaddix tal-linja min quddiema. Itlob skuza tal-paroli fil-vojt Twanny u tippruvax tmeri.
F Gauci
Jan 19th, 15:31
L-azma u l-kancer mux rizultat tat-traffiku biss. Mhux ha nmerik fuq hekk, imma hemm elf fattur ghal cancer u l-azma! Kulhadd jaf li l-heavu fuel oil huwa qerried ghax xbajna naraw kampanji kif ftit ftit qieghda tinqered id-dinja bil-greenhouse effect. Nixtieqek taghmel naqra ricerka fuq il-heavy fuel oil u ma sserahhx biss fuq dak li jinghad mill-politikanti :) Prevenzjoni ahjar mill-kura! :)
twanny borg
Jan 19th, 19:30
Mela kemm imissom mietu u mardu nies fi zmien il-pl il-menqa fil-marsa bil-kwantita ta' faham mitfuh mikxuf qalb in-nies? Jekk hemm familja li qed tghid li mardet minhabba l-enemalta ghandha tiftah kawza l-qorti ghad-danni.
Mr Tony Gauci
Jan 20th, 03:34
@Twanny Borg
Qed terga turi kemm int maluq go kaxxa tas suffarini Sur Borg. Ma tafx li bix tiftah kawza taht dan il gvern irid ikollok ball liri. U haddim jaqlaha u jikola jista jiftah kawza kontra il gvern u wara kollox tinqat ma tafx meta??? Ehh kemm ad awn nies imzazen bhalek. Tibelwa kollox iktar min imzazen....
Ian Psaila
Jan 19th, 14:51
@ M Cachia
So ur an expert on cancers. Can you please send me your study and audits you have done so we can evaluate better your comment.....
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 19th, 14:49
Ma tridx forsi wjoll li ghall-gid tal-pajjiz, il-Labour jirtira li jikkandida ruhu ghall-elezzjoni generali, biex nassiguraw futur fis sod bik fil-gvern ghal darba ohra.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:47
It would be better if Gonzi shuts up his mouth entirely as each time he speaks, he speaks rubbish and pollutes us with his lies, non-sense, lack of knowledge and lack of leadership. Since when Gonzi has become an expert in health? Should he decide to shut-up and thus speaks less rubbish, he might stand a good chance of loosing his final blow election less severely. But I know he won't do it...
michael scicluna
Jan 19th, 14:45
L-pjan ta l-energija tal PL huwa fattibli u reali u ma ghandux ghalfejn jirtirah. Mhux bhad decizjoni li izzid lilek innifsek 600 EWRO li mbad nizlu ghal 500 biex mbad irtirajt u li issa ghax waslet l elezjoni tghid li jiddispjacik!!
m Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:58
Adek ma tafx xi tfisser mela.fattibli ta..fattibli meta naraw listudju min fej gab n.9c6 u fej fid dinja bena powerstation blistudji bkolox dam sentejn biss..qas li kiku beda l birah ma jitlesta
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 15:08
In-9c6 gejjin costings tad-DMV Kema. Li ghal hafna drabi ikkonsultat lill-Gvern ukoll dwar dan il-qasam (avolja m'ghamel prattikament xejn). Are you saying DMV Kema are lying?
michael scicluna
Jan 19th, 15:46
Hemm differenza min partit li dejjem kien konsistenti u dejjem kien jaf x ried u hadem snin ghalih u bejn partit li dejjem halef li qatt ma seta jrahhsu u l bierah sirna nafu li irrifjuta pipeline bxejn b mistoqsoja kbira....ALA??
m Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:49
Check your facts cause dnv kema said that 9c6 had missing the roce and distribution costs! Then it wont be surely 9c6..fil presentation li saret stajt namlu jin n 9c6..alek listudju ma jridx jintwera ax jola hafna aktar
Richard Caruana
Jan 19th, 15:55
Gauci Cunningham
Konrad Mizzi stess qal li l-DMV Kema ma tat l-ebda costings ta' kemm ser jigi kull unit. Dak in-9c8 inhadem mill-PL u la jinkludi l-qliegh tal-kumpanija u lanqas l-isiza kapitali.
m Micallef
Jan 19th, 16:55
Kiku amilna l pipeline ma litalja kona inkunu ristretti li nixu lenergija al 25yrs minandom biss u mux mandt lewropa..political experts kem trid aw
John Scicluna
Jan 19th, 14:44
I dare say that Dr. Muscat is very cunning in the way he puts his words... he states that power stations are of detriment to health and that power stations are factories of cancer and asthma.
Through his statements I don't believe he directly refers to any particular power station in Malta !! He already knows his way out when the worst comes to worst and when his words will be challenged...
M Gatt
Jan 19th, 14:34
Dr. Gonzi this country doesn't need you any more! Never did!
M Borg
Jan 19th, 14:39
If you had a job and still have that job it is thanks to Dr Gonzi .
So it seems that you and the country did need him
Warren Griscti
Jan 19th, 14:48
M.borg I have a job but I'm going to get kicked out as soon as the contract expires. Thanks Dr.Gonzi.
James Hili
Jan 19th, 14:49
Mr Borg so you are portraying Gonzi as some leasder of an ex-communist country where il populin used to thank their great leaders because unemployment was zero!
michael scicluna
Jan 19th, 14:52
Brainwashing! thats what Gonzi is good for!! 20,000 jobs??? if you'll believe that you'll believe anything!
M Borg
Jan 19th, 15:36
@ James Hili
I am not portraying anyone as a leader of an ex communist country and I will not call anyone populin.However it seems that unlike you, I know what is going on around us.
In other EU countries people are out in the streets without jobs, salaries and pensions halved and social services stopped.I do not see this happening in Malta do you ?It pays to follow what goes on .
jm busuttil
Jan 19th, 16:13
@ michael scicluna
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Well I think if we believe that the power station is a reality we would believe anything but people out there are realizing Joseph's gimmick.
M. Cachia
Jan 19th, 14:34
One does not need any expert advice to know that the incidence of CA and other diseases are highly related to locations. People coming from around the Power Station Areas are more prone for sure and no expert can say otherwise. It is pure common sense!
Re apologies, the PM is really going into very dangerous grounds! The infamous letters sent to various sectors prior to the '98 election!
John Scicluna
Jan 19th, 14:46
Yes I agree that people living around power stations may be more prone to CA and other diseases, but how far away from the power station do you need to be to eliminate this risk ?? I'm sure that no one living in Malta is far enough to eliminate this risk...
Charles Cremona
Jan 19th, 14:33
In todays Reuters web sight there is a report on LNG gas and the spiraling prices of this commodity including Shipping. its a real eye opener. I am surprised the Maltese media and the PN have not yet latched on to it.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:37
Xux Charles you might wake them up!
M Borg
Jan 19th, 14:41
Right everyone knows that. So can someone explain how anyone can have a contract for 10 years when prices are going up everyday ?
It is impossible to fix LNG prices so the rates can never go down to 9c6 .
Paul Haul
Jan 19th, 14:43
And when I was challenged by this yesterday in this same Press I was already aware of this. My colleague works for Reuters and it is widely known that Gas Pricves will be going up by a huge amount.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 14:48
So DMV Kema are liars or fools, right?
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:59
Cunnigham. I get the impression that you don't know that PL did not go for KEMA's suggestion. Moreover KEMA never said gas prices can be frozen for 10 years
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 15:13
Mr.Micallef. --Kema said that there are 3 options. Two of them are the LNG terminal and the pipeline. Infact the PL has repeatedly said it'll work on these two. The problem with the pipeline is that, although its cheaper (Kema), on its own our energy supply would depend on Italy and the prices they dictate and would take around seven years to complete IF we get EU funds. Hence the energy mix.
Daniel Zarb
Jan 19th, 15:23
Mr Joe Micallef, fixed prices in natural gas contracts have been used for ages. And by the way you can have a long term fixed price contract with price review provisions in case gas prices change significantly. That means that the price could be reviewed before 10 years in unfavourable conditions. These contracts have taken place before. They can take place now.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:56
Zarb so I understand it shouldn't be a problem to show copies of such contracts
m Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:56
@gauci cunningham
no knv are not liars or fools..but they never assured us about the timeframe pl is proposing..also which company on earth is going to sign a contract for 10years on a fixed price, where both of us know that gas prices are rising..tajdlix hedging ax nkela tibda tixtri bloli min qabel;)
m Micallef
Jan 19th, 16:00
@daniel zarb
ma nafx fej sibtom daw l kuntrati ax jin ili nfitex u ma sibtx qihed..u jek l prezz jocaqlaq jek ikun em u favourable situations mela mux ha jibqa 9c6 +roce+distribution costs
Joseph Micallef
Jan 20th, 00:09
@ Joe Micallef,
Ermm... you're not realizing that not even ONE (1) of all the posts in timesofmalta.com agrees with you? I'm getting worried for you.
Warren Griscti
Jan 19th, 14:28
Iktar kemm jaddi jzim iktar titlef voti bdin it tattika
Tony Borg
Jan 19th, 14:28
It's not a matter of how many people are suffering from cancer/asthma as a direct result from the emissions from HFO power stations.
If there is ONE and just ONE human life in danger, then this is enough reason to change over to gas. Or human life is not sacred anymore?
John Wayne
Jan 19th, 14:27
Please make way for somebody else Dr Gonzi.
Joseph Portelli
Jan 19th, 14:25
taf x'naf dwar din tal-€500? li jekk it-Tnejn 11 ta' Marzu Joseph ikun Prim Ministru, l-ghada t-tlieta 12 ta' Marzu jahtar kabinett ta' l fuq minn 20 ministru, uhud ta' zmien Mintoff - diga semma xi ministu tal-energija u iehor tad-drittijiet civili! U b'dawn il-ministri kollha, mit-taxxi taghna se jkun qed jiehu hafna aktar minn €500 fil-gimgha!!!
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 16:04
Sur Portelli! Bl istess argument tieghek taf kemm hatar kumitati kollha blue eyed boys LG, taf kemm hela flus f' overruns ta progetti, taf kemm jithallsu ic chairmen mahtura min LG go parastatal companies bhall mepa. Mhux ahjar naqtawa u zball nghidulu zball u mela ha toqghod tghid kemm ha jahtar ministri JM
James Tyrrell
Jan 19th, 14:25
Part 2
Studies have also proven that particulate matter emitted from incinerators and oil-burning power stations can travel up to 80 miles from a 200ft high chimney. The most dangerous area is downwind for seven miles per 100 foot of chimney. In still weather most particulate matter falls to ground within 1.3 miles.
James Tyrrell
Jan 19th, 14:25
Part 1.
Particulate matter emitted from power station chimneys has been proven to cause a wide range of illnesses, e.g. chronic asthma, diabetes, leukaemia, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, breast and colon cancer, hypothyroidism, arthritis and depression.
Robert Lewis
Jan 19th, 14:25
Taf x'titlob l-irgulija u l-onesta Dr Gonzi li ilkoll kemm inthom tipprezentaw l-assi kollha inkluz flus f'banek Malta u Barra, proprjeta, etc. li ghandkom illum u ukoll dawk li kellkom 5 snin ilu, u naraw id dfifferenza li hemm. Hekk titlob l-onesta u mela hafna paroli fil vojt u tippruvaw titmejlu bin nies, u imbaghad nipprezentaw l-assi taghna u naraw minn mar lura.
RONALD ARRY
Jan 19th, 14:43
well said, ma tarax ha jiprezentawlek lassi taghhom,kiku lanqas fkilometru karta ma joqodu kolla
j brincat
Jan 19th, 14:23
Over and out!
Bye!
jb
Chris Borg
Jan 19th, 14:33
lol 20 comments from 105. expect amazing
A Dimech
Jan 19th, 14:20
I ask for an apology from Gonzi for promising to close the Marsa Powerstation some 15 to 10 years ago and this is still going.
I ask for an apologoy from Gonzi for promising Air Malta, Dry Docks and Bus Drivers a secured job before last election, and than did the contrary afterwards.
I ask for an apologoy from Gonzi for proming 7,000 new jobs at SMART city;
and the list goes on.....
sammy cassar
Jan 19th, 14:28
while you at it ask Dr.Muscat for an apology for giving us all the wrong information about the EU. ANd canvassing so much against Malta joining this Union.
Richard Caruana
Jan 19th, 15:58
Then I demand an apology for suffering for years from the dust and ash from the coal fired power station during Mintoff's regime.
One could smell the mountain of coal half-way out to the harbour, and living at the fringe of Paola was a disaster for us in the 70s.
That was the true cancer factory.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 16:38
Richard--Noone doubts that burning coal was a very dirty option but that was the option used in most Power Plants at the time. Mintoff didn't have the choice of Gas or promised gas for 14 years and then delivered coal when push came to shove. Point remains that HFO was the worst choice on Gonzi's part when the same Govt. had promised gas since 1999 and when it is used all over the EU.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 14:20
@K Grech
"j brincat, let Andre Briffa explain to us some of, the 'MANY NEW PROPOSAL PROJECTS' GonziP[a]N[ic] had come up with so far in this campaign"
From what I saw yesterday on Xarabank - without the usual theatrics thanks to the BA - he has NONE and NONE at all!
Cheers K Grech!
jb
K Grech
Jan 19th, 16:33
@j brincat, of course he has nothing, did you see Gonzi's face when Joseph asked if Gonzi's cabinet has made public all enemalta's document? We are to await something more exciting about Gonzi and clique management of Enemalta :D
Cheers back Mr.Brincat ;)
Anthony Attard
Jan 19th, 14:19
Jien ghadni ma nistax nifhem kif l-EU ghandha directive fejn tghid li vapur go port ma jistax ihaddem magna bil- HFO............Gonzinu, bil-plant il gdida tal BWSC qed ihaddem 8 magni bil HFO gol port ta Marsaxlokk. Biex hemm din id directive ta' l-EU sinjal li l-HFO huwa ta dannu ghalina........hux ekk?? jew qed tamilni iblah Sur Gonzi??
Paul Cassar
Jan 19th, 14:18
WHAT SHOULD THE PM WITHDRAW:.................."nivvota bil-qalb........................... "..........................650?500e weekly from our money taken behind our backs..............................smart city fiasco.......................white rocks gimmick..................marsa sports ground joke................income tax rebate....................please add......................
Anthony Attard
Jan 19th, 14:29
jirranga il-huts li hemm fl-industrial estates ta Kordin kif ukoll il Crafts village f'ta Qali (jidhak bil poplu u self employed)..............micro business park go Ghawdex................
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 16:01
il vot kontra id divorzju, li ghazel teknologija thammeg flok dik iktar nadifa, li mermer il finanzi tal pajjiz, li halla bniedem bhall austin gatt fil parlament, li wara RCC gie imnehhi mil parlament ghadu hemm u m'ahniex zguri ghadux jithallas mit taxxi taghna u finalment li nefaq 80 miljun biex ghamel xaqq fil belt flok ghen lil min hu fil bzonn
Robert Lewis
Jan 19th, 14:18
Dr Gonzi you asked Dr Muscat for an apology when you yourself admitted that it was a mistake taking 500 euro weekly increase hash, hash, (you and your klikka) and kept the money. If one goes to confession the priest will tell him that unless he/she returns back what was taken, the sin will not be pardoned. Yesterday you changed the subject several times because this issue stinks.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 19th, 14:17
Maa x'biza!
Gonzi int f'hames snin ghamilt fuq biljun ewro dejn. Xi bzonn kien hemm li tispara d-dejn il-fuq jekk l-ekonomijakienet sejra hekk tajjeb? Mhux ta b'xejn ir-rapport negattiv ta S&P .
j brincat
Jan 19th, 14:16
@Jonathan Deeley
"I was asthma-free until developing it soon after moving to Malta a decade ago. I do not wish to denigrate Malta as a country by mentioning this effect. The physicians w, that my asthma had materialised as a result of vehicle fumes and dust caused by building work. In my opinion, Dr Muscat"
AND isn't your conclusion, likewise, too much simplistic!!!!
jb
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 14:16
Dr Gonzi should have called an election when he knew that he had lost its majority in July, when the reading was on the wall. The newspaper,s editorial told you early in 2012 that the only way to solve your divisions was through early elections; you did not listen; so Standard and Poor's down graded your finanzi fis-sod!
Wally Vella-Zarb
Jan 19th, 14:16
The KPMG report has so many waivers and disclaimers on page two that they are refusing ownership of the results. What they are saying is effectively "Garbage in, Garbage out. We are not responsible if the data that we were given by the Corporation amounts to garbage". Full report here:
http://www.enemalta.com.mt/enemaltastorage/images/files/miscellaneous/kpmg - presentation.pdf
M Borg
Jan 19th, 14:46
Is it anyone's fault that the report had to use the numbers given ?
If the workings and not the answer of 9c6 were handed out we would all know which of the workings is right.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:56
The report needs disclaimers because
1. Nobody except the PL can determine the price of gas for 10 years
2. Report was produced on unsubstantiated information presented by the PL
On the otherhand the fact is that KPMG findings are published for everyone to examine - the PL's are not.
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 15:33
@ Joe Micallef
The report needs disclaimers so that KPMG do not put their foot in it again after their report for Enemalta for the IPPC permit for DPSE. There they were given a fake brief by EMC, made one mistake themselves, and wonder of wonders came out with a much desired result: that if gasoil rather than HFo was used in the DPSE test, EXISTING TARIFFS would have to go up by 10.2%!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:40
Profs Mallia I am sure you understand that there is a significant difference here.
Whilst you can examine and rubbish the KPMG report you (at least as far as we know) and others cannot do the same with the PL proposal.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:58
@ Joey Micallef,
Anke lill-Profs se tmeri? Professur, espert fil-fizika b'ghexieren ta' snin f'esperjenza f'diversi oqsma avvanzati. Inkredibbli. Mhux ta' bxejn il-kollegi tieghek jitbissmu meta tghid xi haga.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 16:26
Micallef I am not doing that I am just stating a fact.
I'm sure Profs Mallia doesn't require your assistance to win a technical argument against me.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 14:13
...KPMG based their results on costings given to it by the Government as clarified in the report. DMV Kema did all the costings itself. Are we saying DMV Kema is wrong? Gonzi shouted "shame" yesterday because the PL said that around 2 of the 3 consultants on Bondi+ were all die-hard Nationalists and politically appointed people. he's doing exactly the same today. Pot. Kettle.Black?
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 14:12
We expect an apology from GonziPn, the week that was, when it introduced the 'finanzi fis-sod billboard', Malta was downgraded to BBB+!
Some finanzi fis-sod when all are saying that with your mismanagement you brought us on our knees!
Marthese Cassar
Jan 19th, 14:12
http://www.neftochim.bg/assets/components/lukoil/pdf/sds-reach/en-fuel-oil-heavy-fuel-oil.pdf
The link above shows that exposure to HFO causes cancer and damage to unborn children-FACT FACT !!!!
m farrugia
Jan 19th, 14:12
pl nobody in his senses is belieiving you except contractor who will win direct tend
j brincat
Jan 19th, 14:11
@oseph borg st john
"Qed jicajta Gonzi mela ma jafx li lewwel prijorita ta Joseph Cyprus Muscat li jsir primistru ta 39"
ANYTHING wrong with that Irish Joe!!!!
jb
m farrugia
Jan 19th, 14:10
pl saying that country' finances are in dire straits and then promising a project of millions worth of euros which have to be paid by us taxpayers ( incorporated in our bills) which will be approx ready at the same time as pipeline funded by eu (from where our country got more than one million claimed by sant & muscat) + promises of budget+promises of free child care-pl please decide
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 15:56
M Farrugia have you ever heard Muscat's proposal for real? I think not because if you had you would have known that this is a public private partnership therefore it will not cost us tax payers anything as it will be funded by the private sector. Taqbadx u tfajjar bl-addocc aqra qabel halli ma taqax ghac cajt!
j brincat
Jan 19th, 14:10
@D. Xerri
"The Maltese People ask the PM to withdraw and RETURN BACK the 500 Euro per week increase the PM and his Colleagues have taken for so many months !"
Anzi I would ask another:
Have we EVER been told how much the PM, the Minister and Parliamentary Secretaries refunded from the sum paid to then AND which they themselves agreed to refund?
We're waiting!
jb
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 14:08
Re labour's plan DMV Kema consulted the Govt. too. They gave the costings for the 3 choices. Two of which the PL chose (LNG terminal+pipeline). The Govt. had reports that LNG terminal would be a good option. LNG terminals exist all over the EU. They are not a health hazard according to GonziPN's expert. You still need storage so even PN needs to build the tanks. We need an energy mix....
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 14:08
GonziPN dalwaqt jibdew jghidulna lil dak li johrog mic-cumnija tal-power station hi bhal dak ir-riklam tas-sigaretti li wara gie illegali' ....... cigarettes are cool as a mountain spring'!
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 14:06
Mhux bizzejjed li hallejt li Austin Gatt idahhalna f'basla li gabet lil kulhadd ghalkubtejh bl-ghazla tal-heavyfuel oil flok il-gass; issa se tibda tizbalja int ukoll? Skond l-Inginier pace ' it was political jealousy' that determined whether we should go for gas of this dirty oil. U issa x'inhi l-izkuza l-gdida? Kullhadd jaf li tizbalja darba hu uman imma li tibqa tippersisti?
j brincat
Jan 19th, 14:03
@Mr Joe Micallef
"I challenge ..provide scientific data that corroborates your claim that the lower than average incidence of cancer in the south area is linked to the power stations"
Pipe down with all these challenges. The days of the Musketeers are gone and done with!
And do you really believe that anyone will have the guts to come forward.
I thought you live in Malta!
jb
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:49
Hi Cut and Paste I was reacting to a challenge!
In the absence of "guts" which really should read facts one should remain silent, that is, lest you are PL and really have no other way to make a point!
Joseph Micallef
Jan 20th, 00:12
@ Joe Micallef,
Naħseb jekk forsi titkellem inqas fuq il-blogs, taqta figura ferm isbaħ u tgawdi rispett ħafna aktar għaliex mill-posts li qed tibgħat, ma jaqbel ħadd miegħek, anqas nies ta' l-istess fehma politika u li jien għandi rispett sħiħ lejhom. Biex tmeri l-fatti u l-fehma ta' l-esperti bħall dik ta' Profs. Mallia, ci vuole!
A.Felix Busuttil
Jan 19th, 14:02
Prof. S Brincast said <IL-KBIR GHADU GEJ>
Daniel Zarb
Jan 19th, 14:06
This government chooses not to listen to an accomplished and experienced oncologist like Prof Stephen Brincat though. They only listen to doctors that dance to their tune. Unbelievable people.
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 15:53
In fact I am thinking that in 10yrs time the gov. will have a lot of sues for damages due to HFO. Just wait and see! Il hasra li johorgu mit tax payers money u mhux mill but tal PN
D. Xerri
Jan 19th, 14:02
PM asks Muscat to withdraw energy plan ...... The Maltese People ask the PM to withdraw and RETURN BACK the 500 Euro per week increase the PM and his Colleagues have taken for so many months !
joseph borg st john
Jan 19th, 14:01
Qed jicajta Gonzi mela ma jafx li lewwel prijorita ta Joseph Cyprus Muscat li jsir primistru ta 39
David Magro
Jan 19th, 14:04
Imma intom tahsbu li ghandkom dritt divin li tkomplu tahkmu lil Malta wara li fallejtuha!
Carmel J. Caruana
Jan 19th, 14:08
This Joseph Muscat and Cyprus thing is just PN spin. The economic crisis in Cyprus arose simply because Greek banks for historical reasons invested heavily in Greece. When Greece went down it pulled Cyprus down with it. Nothing to do with wrong economic models. If our banks had invested in Greece, Ireland or Spain we would have the same problem. Cypr has better hospitals, hotels, roads ... than us
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 14:17
Mela ejja ha nsemmu Iceland. Tiftakar li Gonzi kien qalilna li "kieku ma dhalniex fl-ewro kien jigrilna bhal-Izlanda"? Tiftakar? Wara li qal hekk bdew ifallu xi pajjizi membri ta l-ewro! How's that for consistency? Ghax GonziIceland ma jridx jibqa fil-poter. he's there to give a "service" to the people. U halluna!!!
pat muscat
Jan 19th, 17:04
@Joseph borg st john. U x'inhi l-priorita ta downgrade Lawrence? More of the same that is higher electircity bills?
Victor Laiviera
Jan 19th, 14:01
The usual scaremongering tactics. They are not working.
D. Xerri
Jan 19th, 14:06
What do you expect from An Expired GonziPN - Scaremongering words and letters sent to different sectors !
Marthese Cassar
Jan 19th, 14:00
http://www.dacorum.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1597
The above is a link to a UK study showing the high incidence of asthma that comes about as a direct result of the sulphur dioxide from power stations operated with HFO. Gonzi, It is you who must apologise for bringing this monster at our door. FACT --HFO CAUSES ASTHMA
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:18
Compare like with like and come back. Hint - look at the emission values mentioned and compare them with those of the new plant.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:43
Mr. Joe Micallef,
Mela m'ghandekx x'taghmel fil-hajja? Jider li tiehu pjacir taqra, ghallura halli intik xi haga ohra x'taqra:
http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol45/mono45-11.pdf
You'd better read this rather than wandering from one office to another.
Jonathan Deeley
Jan 19th, 13:57
I was asthma-free until developing it soon after moving to Malta a decade ago. I do not wish to denigrate Malta as a country by mentioning this effect. The physicians whom I visited in connection with my condition were all of the same opinion: namely, that my asthma had materialised as a result of vehicle fumes and dust caused by building work. In my opinion, Dr Muscat's analysis is too simplistic
David Magro
Jan 19th, 14:05
Jonathan, HFO contributes to increase in cancer and asthma...we in the south are expierancing it.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:56
@J Martinelli
"The chances of getting an apology from Muscat & withdrawing his PS fantasy are as good as an ice-cube's in hell"
On contrary we're waiting for an apology from your GonziPN for the various reason listed in the posts below!!
But will we get them for GonziPN?
Your guess is as good as mine!
Seems you're well acquainted with snow and ice!!!
jb
Daniel Zarb
Jan 19th, 13:56
Gonzi Gonzi the phase 1 turbines at Delimara are spewing more particulates and nitrogen oxides than they should, exceeding the emission limit most of the time. This can be seen on the Enemalta website. Please do us and yourself a favour...STOP TAKING US FOR A RIDE!
Mr Albert Dimech
Jan 19th, 13:56
Perhaps he should have spent the €2.3 million for the bridge to nowhere, on a nation wide study on asthma and cancer, then there would be something on which to base argument for and against. Doctors referred to out dated local studies and foreign studies. There is no recent local research, so the PMs argument is as good as JM's. People in Fgura, Zejtun and M'Xlokk might think otherwise.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 13:55
.....YOU voted wholeheartedly against a decrease in the bills. YOU said bills would go down if oil prices reach the $80 a barrel. YOU didn't. YOUR Minister called ppl's protests pantos. YOUR Party promised GAS in 1999 and called it "ir-rigal tal-Millenju" YOU did NOTHING. YOU got told by 3 CEOs that the bills were unsustainable. YOU Governed for ten years and YOU have nothing to show for it!
Mr Joe Cardona
Jan 19th, 13:54
Dr L. Gonzi nahseb aktar int ghandek ghala tiskuza ruhek mela Dr J. Muscat. Ghandek tiskuza ruhek fuq Smart City, il-kumpanija tal-Brazil u dik tal-Olanda li suppost kellhom jimpjegaw eluf ta' nies, ghal 500 ewro li hadt int u shadek il-Ministri minn wara dahr il-poplu, ghal gholi tal-prezz tal-gass, petrol, diesel pitrolju, hobz, cement, u aktar u aktar il-kontijiet esagerati tad-dawl u l-ilma.
Mr J Xerri
Jan 19th, 13:53
And where is your energy plan, Dr Gonzi? And are you still going to lower energy tariffs as you promised when you where in Germany, as since then we have heard nothing about this and about what plan is going to be implemented to achieve this reduction in energy tariffs?
R Psaila
Jan 19th, 13:53
No need to be a specialist these days to get to know the most basic things. Just google HFO and cancer and see the results. Technology has made people wiser and more knowledgeable. Gone are the days when politicians in Malta could fool a good chunk of the voters very easily. Unfortunately, not all politicians seem to know this, or else they might still think that we are idiots. Please grow up!!!
B. Farrugia
Jan 19th, 13:52
I think that is very dangerous to downplay the harm powerstation smoke can and will eventually cause,
no one need apologize,
unless it be those who rejected / retracted a gas powered powerstation in the first place.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 13:52
.....YOU chose the WORST form of fuel. YOU made us guniea Pigs in the process (remember, untried untested?) . YOU were never transparent in the way Enemalta was purchasing oil. YOU got Ene. on its knees (800 million in the red). YOU got reprimanded by S&P's for this "ailing" company. YOU increased our bills by 180%. YOU ignored everyone in the process......
Mr Edward Caruana Galizia
Jan 19th, 14:00
It is the PL that wants to take water and electricity out of the hands of the people and give it to private investors who are not democratically elected. This means they can put prices up as much as they like regardless of the price of oil.
And on top of that, the PL wants to build a new power station with money we don't have next to villages that would be at risk of being vaporized.
M Grima
Jan 19th, 14:12
@Edward Caruana Galizia
Ma x' biza.
Was that a script from an audition which you have just written.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 14:27
Oh Edward never knew you'd become a die-hard, old-time Mintoffian? Its called Privatisation dears. Mid-Med? Lotto? Post? MIA? Maltacom? All privatised by PN govts.? Are these companies led by "democratically elected" CEO's? Didn't think so! But still the PL is promising that the Private sector builds and runs the LNG terminal while BWSC (switched to gas) will remain public as will enemalta..
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 14:28
@E.G.C. Nice turn of phrase about villages being vaporised. What would be the vaporising agent?
LNG (at ~ -130C) would be rapidly vaporised itself once in contact with anything outside the tank. Being lighter than air it would go up rather than across to M'Xlokk. If you are so concerned, tou might take a short walk behind the Freeport and look at the situation there.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 14:36
"...money we don't have". But of course we have Edward! 80 million for a Parliament. 80 million Fairmount contract. 55 million to buy the Public trans. promise. 160 million for a PS which went wrong. 600 eur. a week increase per Minister. 40 million over and above the millions spent ghax insejna nibnu L-isptar tal-Kancer. xi miljun lil Renzo Piano.12 million to rent out a closed Priv. Hospital
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 14:47
"..put prices up as much as they like regardless of the price of oil."--its not oil we're talking about its gas. You know the same gas the PN has been talking about since 1999? The PL said that it would reach an agreement through a power purchase agreement for the first ten years. Pn laughed off Hedging and called it a "gamble" than they got in power and hedged calling it "forward buying".
Mr Edward Caruana Galizia
Jan 19th, 15:21
We're talking about electricity and water not an airport. Whenever a place privatised, or even formed some sort of partnership with a private company, water and electricity it ended in more and more people having their water cut off. Take for example Detroit.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 15:41
"...We're talking about electricity and water not an airport." In Malta we have but one airport and infact that's why the MIA privatisation (by the PN) had been criticised by the Pilot's Union among others. Due to the fact that it put the Airport charges up and made MIA one of the more expensive airports around.
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 15:46
The results are there for all to see. What is the result of years of Enemalta being in "our" hands, as you put it above? 800 million euros in debt, inefficiencies galore, absolutely no transparency in the purchase of fuel, millions in interests (77 million last year), a high rate of power outage, political interference, choice of HFO and a downgrading by S&P's partly because of Enemalta!
Mr Edward Caruana Galizia
Jan 19th, 16:41
Again Albert, the price of electricity and water will go up, and we will have no one to hold accountable. An airport is an airport, and although you talk of processes being sky high, I have flown down many times and not once have I spent more than 150euro.
But water and electricity are one's life line. If you can't afford a flight, don t fly. But if you can't afford water and electricity?
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 17:58
@Edward --I fully understand your point. But my point is this; we're on the eve of another election. Enemalta is on the brink of insolvency and if it goes down there's a very good chance we'd all go down with it. So what are the options? PL is saying there should be a private-public partnership that would slowly start solving Enemalta's problem. GonziPN, which created this mess, is keeping mum
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:51
"Let us all learn from the past and not trust Labour because our achievements are at stake," he said"
What achievment!
Being downgraded to BBB+ by Standard & Poor and so we're no longer in Class A category.
He should have explain to the people what the implication of this means
ANDthe implications are very serious indeed!
But I leave it to the PN apologists to explain them!
jb
Franco Abela
Jan 19th, 13:49
saying that Dr Muscat, unlike rebel PN MP Franco Debono, said he agreed with the budget so could have easily voted in its favour.
CORRECTION... FRANCO VOTED AGAINST BECAUSE HE HAD LOST CONFIDENCE IN YOU
A. Gauci Cunningham
Jan 19th, 13:48
Imma dan possibli ha jibqa jitrattana daqs li kieku ahna cwiec? YOU took the wrong decisions in the energy sector. YOU chose a HFO Plant through a process which stinks to the high heavens. YOU changed the emission laws of Malta to accommodate your choice. YOU chose to negotiate with a company on the World Bank BLACKLIST. YOU changed the tender requirements. YOU gave 4 million in commissions...
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 15:45
Albert that is his only way cause he doesn't have any proposals! LG should apologise for opposing divorce, putting d country through a referendum that cost us 4million & then still voting against, for giving us a meagre 1.16 while he took 600 a week, for choosing HFO over gas, for getting the country's finances in a mess, for not helping d minorities, for the ppl in the corridors at mater dei etc.
Kenneth Williams
Jan 19th, 13:48
Mhux ahjar ghidtlu l bierah wicc imb wicc. Staqsik fuq il power station u bdejt tlaqlaq.Mhux ahjar tohrog b xi proposta forsi nibdew naraw xi haga ta sugu...Ninnutak meta tkun wahdek bomba tkun meta tkun ma Joseph tkun imfixkel
K Grech
Jan 19th, 13:55
Kin jidher bic car li Gonzi kien mifxul u l loghba elettoralli kurrenti tal PN hi dik li jbezza biss, il hasra al GonziP[a]N[ic] hi li wara 25 din it tattika qeghda tfallilu
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:12
Which part of the PN energy policy you don't understand. In nutshell
1. December 2013 - BSWC plant delivered - unit cost form 18c to 15c
2. March 2014 - Inteconnector /closing Marsa - unit cost 15c to 11c
3. 2018 - Gas pipeline (if part EU funding is obtained) - unit cost 11c to 8c4
4. 2020 - Closing delimara 1
for the record I am not convinced of the gas solution.
Edward Mallia
Jan 19th, 14:37
@ Mr. Joe Micallef
1. BWSC -- unit cost from 18c to 15c. Overall unit cost or BWSC unit cost (when BWSC is fully working; some doubt at the moment)?
2. Sicily IC -- sorry, the 11c unit cost has no formal basis; discussions have not yet taken place.(MRRA Perm. Sec)
3. 2018 unit cost to 8c4: where is that coming from? can we see the calculations please?
4. 2020: closure of Del.1 Who said?
Daniel Zarb
Jan 19th, 14:49
Joe Micallef are you serious? Interconnector in 2014?! you must be daydreaming. That will not be ready before the end of the legislature, mark my words.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:50
@ Joey Micallef,
Let me tell you the parts I did not understand:
5) the 500 euro a week stolen from our pockets,
6) the choice of the most polluting (prototype) BWSC powerstation
7) the acquisition through hiring of St.Philips after 16 years waiting for Mater Dei
8) the record in debts
9) the 7,000 ghost jobs at smartcity
etc..
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:36
Prof’s Mallia
1. Certainly (at least as reported) when plant is fully functional
2. As reported and certainly can have no formal basis. Due to production economies I still believe this will always be our cheapest (and cleanest) source
3. This was on Kema report – it may have been 8c7
4. Reported and I understand a must due to NEC directive
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 15:39
Mr. Micallef can you hand on heart say that the time line you gave is correct. Taf li ilkom biex tibnu triq fic cirkewwa iktar min 3 snin u domtu biex bnejtu mater dei 17 il sena! It track record tal PN fuq il progetti huwa hazin hafna bhala timeframes u bhala flus so why should we believe now!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:48
Micallef
5. Muscat will make us pay more with a larger cabinet of ministers
6. Where did you get that from
7. I see nothing wrong and will probably not solve the problem
8. Ample evidence to show. One example an unintended social network with PL telephone system to a proper one with huge IT infrastructure
9. Smart city will deliver
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:53
Aquilina excluding the case of Mater Dei which has it's own complicated story involving the PL who first wanted to pull it down and then decided to increase it's size with no plans, I do not think any party in Malta can claim delivery on date of projects. You certainly remember PL only project btw 96 and 98. A promenade which was supposed to cost 800K and completed in 8mths cost 1.9M and took 18mt
Joseph Micallef
Jan 20th, 00:14
@ Joe Micallef,
I won't react anymore to your comments as your posts are just non-sense, time wasting, symptoms of someone who hasn't got anything more interesting to do in his life and one track minded based on myths.
Franco Abela
Jan 19th, 13:48
For several years I used to notice the heavy smoke coming out of the short chimneys of the Marsa Power Station covering Marsa, Paola and the vicinities. NO ONE will ever convince me that this smoke does not contribute to ill health.
B. Farrugia
Jan 19th, 13:47
even air borne dust and particulate matter. Therefore it is highly likely that power-station smoke, including the fuel, (which may not be visible) is harmful to the lungs, thus resulting in the conditions mentioned above. Just because it has not yet been proved in Malta does not mean that this problem does or will not exist.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:47
@Andre Briffa
"The PL elves are back at work"
Is this ALL you could come up with??
I have no doubt you're on neither side of the fence and not one of the PN acolytes aka as apologists or the
Charlatan's Brigade!
But then there are also trolls!!!
jb
K Grech
Jan 19th, 13:57
j brincat, let Andre Briffa explain to us some of, the 'MANY NEW PROPOSAL PROJECTS' GonziP[a]N[ic] had come up with so far in this campaign.
B. Farrugia
Jan 19th, 13:46
also long-term exposure can result in chronic asthma, lung fibrosis, allergies, chronic bronchitis, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Often the patient may not even recognize the condition and diagnosis is delay.
Asthma can worsen under certain atmospheric conditions such as humidity, pollen, fungal spores, temperature, wind direction, gases, acids, and chemicals in the air.....
B Attard
Jan 19th, 13:45
Ara vera ragel ma jisthix il-PM Hemm elf issue li ghandu jitlob apologija dwarhom u dan qatt ma sehh. Irid ikun fadallek iz-zejt f'wiccek....
B. Farrugia
Jan 19th, 13:45
Asthma is due to the exaggerated inflammatory response of the lungs (narrowing of air passages, increase in secretions and swelling of lung tissue). It may cause wheeze and shortness of breath on exertion. Various noxious stimuli are usually to blame, these include chemicals and really anything organic, even the tiniest of amounts can cause start an asthma attack also long-term exposure......
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:42
"Dr Gonzi repeated his intention to vote in favour of the budget if in Opposition, if nothing else was added"
Hypothetical statement!.
If in Opposition HE would NO longer be there!
But the proof of the pudding is in the eating and the eating shows that the PN in Opposition NEVER voted in favour of any Labour's budgets.
And this is history not make belief!!!
So, please!!!!
jb
Mark Depasquale
Jan 19th, 14:15
Of course you`re definitely right. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. That`s what happened between 1996 - 1998. Sorry mate!! Once bitten twice shy. No more Labour pudding.
Tony Borg
Jan 19th, 13:42
Dr Gonzi is like a scarecrow.
He seems to forget that once birds get used to the scarecrow they are not scared of it anymore.
Justin Tabone
Jan 19th, 13:39
Dr Gonzi should apologize first for giving a Eur500 salary increase to himself and all ministers.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:39
"He referred to the Standard and Poor's downgrade..with the budget so could have easily voted in its favour"
AND when did the PN EVER vote in favour of budget when in Opposition?
Remember 1998???
The PN voted with their lifelong foe (to regain power) so as to bring the legitimate government of Dr Sant, who unlike Gonzi, won the election by MORE than 1500 votes!
jb
Joseph Grech Attard
Jan 19th, 13:37
Dr. Gonzi, EFA, Simon Busuttil & all those invloved in the 'money no problem' false theory should be the ones to apologise to the Maltese nation for having lied and taken us into the Eurozone when crisis had already begun but was not public. What ethics are you talking about PM? Those of your party which took your personal name and made a mess and created more division in Malta because of cliques.
Charlie Formosa
Jan 19th, 13:36
Qed jiprova jamel minn kollox biex jirbah is siggu tal poter. ara vera dawn il politikanti jamlu kollox ghal flus!
Richard Ellul
Jan 19th, 13:35
Cancer and asthma? What about the mizbla at Zurrieq and Maghtab? These were a real problem.
Joseph Attard
Jan 19th, 13:35
Dan bis-serjeta jew?
Mela jridu jivvota favur il-budget, meta il-gvern kien fid-dmir li jara li jkollu maggoranza parlamentari u iridu jirtira l-proposti
Dr Gonzi, lanqas kellek hila tikkonvinci deputat tieghek biex jaqbel miegħek, ser tikkonvinci lil Dr Muscat biex jirtira l-pjanijiet serji tal-PL!
Mid-dehra l-pjan inkwetah
Joseph Micallef
Jan 19th, 13:34
Dr.Gonzi, I challenge you, hands down and with great honour. You don't know what you're saying. There is high probability that there exists a direct link between Heavy Fuel Oils and Cancer. These are facts! Just google it and the first links which come up are of the cancer centre of France. So, apologies for what? In contrary, it's YOU who should apologize for stealing 500 euro a week!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 13:50
I challenge you Micallef to provide scientific data that corroborates your claim that the lower than average incidence of cancer in the south area is linked to the power stations.
Muscat and Mizzi (not Joe Mizzi - he has been side lined) have not provided any yet, as they haven't provided any related to the 10 year fixed price gas purchasing claim!
Do yourself a favour and don't quote ONE
Mark Depasquale
Jan 19th, 14:25
Dear Mr. Micallef. I think you are in a state of political delirium. The Prime Minister repeatedly ,repeatedly ,repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly and repeatedly admitted that it was a mistake. MLP should apologise for ripping off the liberty of speech, liberty of opinion, the liberty of everything. Oh, by the way do you remember or know what I`m talking about?
Joseph Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:40
@ Joe Micallef, Mark Depascquale
I challenge you with GREAT PLEASURE. Who care what Gonzi says? He has been speaking rubbish since he took leadership of PN! Mela ghax jitkellem Gonzi, jitkellem l-oraklu? Read the following article in detail. (This is just one of many). It might serve you well to stop speaking rubbish:
http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol45/mono45-11.pdf
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 16:32
Micallef what is that supposed to show. Those type of reports are used if not commissioned by the EU to set its emissions directives. And the new plant is reported to be well below those limits.
Stop avoiding the challenge and provide scientific data that corroborates your claim that the lower than average incidence of cancer in the south area is linked to the power stations.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:34
"Labour's candidate who was the main spokesman on the proposal, he said, was going round saying he would be Energy Minister"
Proof dear PM!
The PL is one united team!
jb
joseph borg st john
Jan 19th, 13:53
Except Anglu Farrugia .
Mark Depasquale
Jan 19th, 14:27
Daqs il - krema Custard maghqud!! Staqsi lill - Anglu!!!
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:33
"Dr Muscat was too much of a risk for the country, he said, adding that the financial service sector which Dr Muscat was praising was at stake because of the effects of Labour's electoral promises on the country's finances."
Has he forgotten the 101 promises made in 2008?
Like the famous 7000 IT jobs in Smart City and the reduction in income tax from 35% to 25% (wef 1/1/2009)!
jb
joseph borg st john
Jan 19th, 14:15
And also coping Cyprus .
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 15:33
Mr. St. John like LG wanted to copy ireland or have you conveniently forgotten! Ireland's finances are a mess as well allura issa nibdew nghidulu ireland lorry!
Carmel J. Caruana
Jan 20th, 08:31
This Joseph Muscat and Cyprus thing is just PN spin. The economic crisis in Cyprus arose simply because Cypriot banks for historical reasons invested heavily in Greece. When Greece went down it pulled Cyprus down with it. Nothing to do with wrong economic models. If our banks had invested in Greece, Ireland or Spain we would have the same problem. Cypr has better hospitals, hotels, roads ... than
Alex Cutajar
Jan 19th, 13:32
"Let us all learn from the past and not trust Labour because our achievements are at stake,"
Achievements are not at stake, Achievements were let down under a gonziPN government. Did you forget that we had to register surplus by 2010, and instead we had more debt?
alex - www.alexcutajar.com
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 14:44
How much are you paying or borrowing for your University tuition? Labour's past on that alone is nothing to write home about or worthy of trust!!!!
Joseph Micallef
Jan 19th, 15:31
@ Joe Micallef,
It's a pity that you have benefited from free education set-up by Labour administrations. However, I can't say that yours in particular was highly successful as your poor way of trying to reason things out needs a lot of re-education I believe..
N. Aquilina
Jan 19th, 15:32
Sur Micallef, li ma kien il labour lanqas edukazzjoni b'xejn f'dal pajjiz! Veru il labour ghamlu zbalji fil passat bhall ma ghamlu il PN allura ha noqghodu sejrin hekk! Dr. Gonzi ma mexxiex tajjeb jekk dan mhux qed tarah allura jew int maqtugh mir realta jew inkella tant int partiggjan li jekk il PN jghaddsek fil hama tghidlu grazzi!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 16:47
Aquilina spjegali fejn ma hadiemx sew il PN u ghidli kif fuq l'istess suggetti il PL ser jahdem ahjar.
Jien ser nivvota PN fuq l'EU, l'ekomomija, l'ambjent, l'edukazzjoni, ix-xoghol u is-sahha.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 16:47
Aquilina spjegali fejn ma hadiemx sew il PN u ghidli kif fuq l'istess suggetti il PL ser jahdem ahjar.
Jien ser nivvota PN fuq l'EU, l'ekomomija, l'ambjent, l'edukazzjoni, ix-xoghol u is-sahha.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 17:02
Micallef who told you that I benefitted from the castrated ideological education of the MLP? Thank the good Lord I haven't
Thomas Anderson
Jan 19th, 13:29
Unfortunately Dr Gonzi has a very short memory, did he forget all the scaremongering regarding cancer when Super One put a TV repeater on Rabat MLP club, did anyone from GonziPN apologize for that? Please Mr PrimeMinister could you tell us what are your proposals or is it more of the same, like taking 600Euros a week behind everyone's back?
J Martinelli
Jan 19th, 13:28
The chances of getting an apology from Muscat & withdrawing his PS fantasy are as good as an ice-cube's in hell.
He persists in his mad scheme, using the plight of a cancer stricken family & links their misfortune to the Delimara PS. Statistics deny his claim.
Marsa residents should all be dying of cancer being next door to a PS with low technology and for years was run on coal by the Socialists.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:28
"Dr Muscat was too much of a risk for the country"
How can Dr Muscat be riskier than him when under him the credit reference agencies (Moodys & Standard and Poor) downgraded us on 5 (five) occasions in the last 2 years.
Now (a couple of days ago) we lost classy A category and have been relegated to second division (BBB+) AND are moving towards 'junk status'.
The pot must be..
jb
Edmond Micallef
Jan 19th, 13:23
Dr Gonzi should apologies to the whole Maltese Nation for voting wholeheartedly for the increase in the utility tariffs, thus burdening the families with increased hardships and economical dilemmas.
And regarding clean air and the environment in general, this administration surely cannot honestly, hand over heart boost of an exemplary or rewarding track record.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 19th, 13:42
Why not? Closing off Mghatab and other landfills, introduction of engineered landfills, separation of household refuse, treatment of all drainage, Sant Antnin plant, removal of old buses, cleaner power generation, bring-in sites, tree planting etc. etc.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:23
"The Prime Minister also said that Dr Muscat’s energy plan was endangering the country's finances and economy and asked him to withdraw it"
Has he conveniently forgotten that under him and Eddie we have a record public debt of €5 BILLION and a debt servicing of some € 250 million yearly. That's besides the debt of other government entities which reaches some other €1.1 billion!
jb
Stephen Borg
Jan 19th, 13:44
U m'intix ser tqabbel l-istandard of living ta' qabel Eddie ma wara Eddie hux sur Brincat. U jidhirli li inti wiehed minn dawk li hajjtek kienet hafna ahjar taht gvern immexxi minn Eddie
Jonathan Camilleri
Jan 19th, 13:23
Why does Dr. Gonzi say that the link is incorrect? Has he published a study proving the contrary? What do the technical (rather than the political figureheads) have to say about these plans?
B. Farrugia
Jan 19th, 13:21
The problem of pwer station polution is that one does not know exactly what is coming out of those chimneys, Probably hundrens of complex and organic chemicals, and heavy metals.This concoction is not healthy for sure, neither is it neutral. Therefore it is harmful, howmuch we do not know.Quite a few years would have to pass before studies reveal the true magnitude of the problem.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:20
"he said experts had said there was no link of any sort"
Was he referring to Dr Stephen Brincat, guess not!!!!
The 'other experts' kept beating about the bush and did not come up with a direct reply. They remained standing on the fence with their petty 'ifs and buts' 'outdated theories','studies only at Fgura', and what have we!!!
But the people who are suffering know!!
jb
Andre Briffa
Jan 19th, 13:38
The PL elves are back at work
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 19th, 17:25
Andre Briffa
Oh wrap it up, for once!
Noel Abela
Jan 19th, 13:17
Dr Gonzi yesterday said that taking an increase in his salary of Euro500 was a mistake of the past and that we should put it behind us. What he did not say was that he took this pay rise BEHIND OUR BACKS. Is he man enough to apologise for such a blunder and why does he not confirm that he and his ministers paid back the hush hush pay rise they all took and I say again BEHIND OUR BACKS
Joseph Mizzi
Jan 19th, 13:14
As the clichèd saying goes: all's fair in love and war, dear Prime Minister.
j brincat
Jan 19th, 13:14
"Lawrence Gonzi this morning demanded an apology from..."
OMG - how pathetic?
He should apologise for lumping us with a power station that works on heavy fuel oil which incidentally was found out of the Yellow Pages!
He should apologise cause the obsolete Marsa Power station, which spews black dust, is still on and as a result of which we're paying hefty EU fines!
jb
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 19th, 13:13
just because its not the only source of cancer, doesn't mean it doesn't cause cancer. Cancer is affected by cigarettes, exhaust, pollution, food, type of diet, genetics... but also burning of heavy fuel oil also does cause cancer. Read scientific papers! If we can save a life out of thousand, we should!
Ethelbert Schembri
Jan 19th, 13:12
Experts are saying that cigarettes are the main cause of cancer and Malta has one of the least rates of cancer and asthma incidence.. This is an insult to all those that are suffering from cancer and that they have never come close to a cigarette, so is Dr Gonzi implying that little kids even of few months or days that their parents have never smoked, suffer because they smoke? You must be ashamed
Anthony Lee Baldacchino
Jan 19th, 13:10
Allahares ma tivvutax ma budget li ghamiltu int stess umbad. Iddahhaqnix Prim. Il-Maggoranza tal-poplu nemmen li mhix temnek u mhix se tavdak.
f. zammit
Jan 19th, 13:09
mela f kollox tifhem int . int mohhli qieghed hawn ghax perezz li taf b kollox
u tieghek it tajjeb int jisthoqlok tmexxi lewropa u dinja kollha
Maria Xuereb
Jan 19th, 13:08
Mela inti Dr. Gonzi tista xi darba titlob lil JM jaghmel xi apologija? Inti li ma nafx kemm il-zball ghamilt u ghamilt affarijeit minn wara dahar il-poplu u qatt, qatt u qatt ma tlabt apologija? Kif tista inti tiddimanda apologija. U jekk l-esperti tieghek qed jghidu hekk u ta' JM qed jghidu haga ohra lil min se nemmnu? Lilek li qatt ma ghidt il-verita u s-sewwa imma bil-kontra.
Ronald Cauchi
Jan 19th, 13:05
For a caretaker Prime Minister Gonzi has a lot of cheek.
Joseph Muscat
Jan 19th, 13:04
The Pm holds Labour responsible for S&P downgrade. So as He said yesterday that he will not support the budget vote if labour is in Government and the energy issue is included. By His own measurment, wouldn't He also be responsible for a futher downgrade, or is it simply two weights and two measures.
Both parties should grow up and treat the electorate with much more respect, we are not ignorant.
M Grima
Jan 19th, 13:03
Possibli li b'hekk biss trid tipprova tigbor giehekk billi tbezza lill-polu. Ipokrita!!
K Grech
Jan 19th, 13:03
"Dr Gonzi spoke on the findings of a report compiled by auditors KPMG which concluded that tariffs would increase by five per cent with Labour's proposal."
What about the wastage of money from minister Pullicino on wasteserv? Obviously if Gonzi thinks that PL's members will be as corrupt as PN's, than yeah it will go up by 5%
C. Sammut
Jan 19th, 13:03
What audacity! Unethical is using ex Enemalta employees making healthcare statements on tv!!
M Grima
Jan 19th, 13:02
The politics of fear.That's all Dr. Gonzi has to offer!!
Steve Zammit
Jan 19th, 13:40
Scaring people with cancer is what M Grima?
M Grima
Jan 19th, 13:02
Oh, Dr. Gonzi you're going to drown clutching the little straw that you have grabbed. Why don't you focus on your own campaign and your proposals which seem to have evaporated? The only apology this electorate expects is from you and your elves for pocketing €600 a week behind everyone's back and giving is a meagre €1.16 which you have not yet returned.
Shame of you
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