UK expert raises concerns in PL energy plan
The Nationalist Party this afternoon presented a UK gas and energy expert to give his views on Labour's energy proposals.
Finance Minister Tonio Fenech said Miles A Seaman, who was invited by the Nationalist Party, had extensive experience in power stations, gas installations, and safety issues.
Speaking at a press conference, Mr Fenech said the proposals by the PL were unrealistic. Costings were €200 million off the mark, timelines were wrong, and tariffs under the Labour plan would go up by 5% rather than go down by 25%. Furthermore, nowhere were 10-year price guarantees given in power purchase agreements.
Mr Seaman said LNG terminals constituted major safety issues because very large amounts of relatively volatile material was stored there. Therefore they were usually sited well away from other installations.
The PL proposal was at the small end of LNG terminals, which posed difficulties in finding suitably sized (small) tankers. Very few small tankers were in service and one doubted how many would be available, meaning that Malta might need to build its own.
He said sketches presented by the PL on the location of the LNG tanks were not good enough to discuss safety issues. Gas terminals, he said, needed to be designed in a way which mitigated the risks from the tanks, offloading and the marine operations.
The Seveso directive laid down stringent safety requirements in case of spillage or leakage eventually leading to evaporation.
Clearly, he said, there was 'a very clear win' of pipelines over gas terminals, although that did not mean that terminals could not be built safely.
Another matter was economies of scale. The PL proposal was for a very small plant, which would be rather costly compared to large plants.
On the timescales, he said the commissioning process from the health aspect alone would take 12 months at concept/design stage.
This was a complex design, and building would certainly take two to three years after permits was issued. To say just two years was very ambitious indeed, he said, although one could never say anything was impossible.
He said it was unusual for the terminal and the power station to be so close, although it was not impossible, although there could be an extra cost of 5% to 10% on safety measures. He however wondered whether there as enough space and said it would be more desirable to build the tanks a bit further from the power station. Still, tanks were built close to power stations, notably in Japan.
Mr Seaman said he had no personal experience of fire and explosions in LNG terminals and such cases were unusual. He acknowledged that a gas solution was better, from an environmental point of view, than using oil because there were no carbon emissions and machines could be more efficient.
Replying to further questions, Mr Fenech said it was clear that a gas pipeline was better than a gas terminal, but the PL had proposed a terminal without proper studies. The PN feared that in order to complete facilities within two years, a Labour government cut corners, and this would pose risks.
By Mr Seaman's own estimates, should normal timescales be followed, it would take six years to build the gas terminal close to the power station. That was the same timeline as the gas pipeline, which was the cheaper option, Mr Fenech said.
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George Azzopardi
Jan 16th, 12:52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembroke_Power_Station
See this example recently built 2,000 MWe natural gas-fired power station which has 5 x 400 MWe generation units. Cost is 960 million euros (800 million sterling). Note that this power station has a capacity of 10 times that to be made in Malta and was built in 4 years!!
@P Borg Yesterday, 16:49: 5 x 400 MW units in 4years!!
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 16th, 08:59
@ Justin Tabone
Maybe yes I watch too much of Net TV !! BUT YOU ONLY WATCH SUPER ONE TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 16th, 08:56
@ GENJU MALTI
Jekk konrad mizzi ser isir ministru ta' l-energija , mela JOE MIZZI ( dak li suppost sab iz-zejt) SER JIBQA JSAFFAR. Ara vera genju inti !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pat muscat
Jan 16th, 08:51
We v'e never heard this expert or any other expert before the noxious heavy fuel oil was proposed. We did not have one single press conference or Press briefings either. We never had a Xarabank or a Bondi+ programs on BWSC power station programs on PBS. Everything was sheltered from the media and from the public's eye and right to know. Ah, today its different: Press conference's galore!
Maria Camilleri
Jan 16th, 08:38
I would like to ask the Marsaxlokk /Dellimara area people if they will be pleased to have such huge tanks of potentially dangerous gas so near to their homes? I'm sure I wouldn't.
Ramon Farrugia
Jan 16th, 22:23
Sinjura Maria,ma jistax ikun tirraguna b dak it tip ta ragunar, inkella jien nejdilom biex jalqu l airport???
fl airport ukoll hemm hazna ta fuel vicin hal Luqa. u jekk jinzel jew jaqa xi ajruplan gol bitha mux perikoluz, ta vicin t tarzna mux perikoluz ta fejn l freeport mux perikoluz u anke jek taqsam triq perikoluz!!!!
Carmel Zammit
Jan 16th, 07:39
Gonzipn and Mr. Fenech cannot be trusted. If he really believes in what he says why did his government not install the pipeline? The presentation by PL shows that considerable savings could have been made on fuel costs had the pipeline been in place meaning that the responsibility for the high bills lies squarely with Gonzipn.
M Sciberras
Jan 16th, 08:18
This is a pipeline to Italy in the deep Med - not a kattusa under the sink. It easily takes 10-20 years from planning to completion. Italy has also only just given its consent, as the other end of the kattusa is in Sicily. Now we must apply for funding which is of course coming from the EU the PL didn't want us to join. If we joined EU in 1980, we'd have d pipeline & more. Instead we have Rep Day.
Joseph Sant
Jan 16th, 07:15
Hedging gas price for 10 years is not possible any more... see below..
Quote - "Prior to the restructuring of the industry, gas supply contracts often had terms of 10 years or more whereas today they are typically less than three years."
Link: http://bipartisanpolicy.org/sites/default/files/Henning%20Long-Term%20Contracting.pdf
Alex Ellul
Jan 16th, 00:30
On what price of LNG or CNG has the PL based its costings? Electrcal power in Europe costs ~22c per KWh (unit) and the PL is saying that the proposed gas-power PS will provide power at 12c per unit. Do the PL know something that ALL of Europe does not?
On what price of LNG/CNG has the PL based its costings. THIS is the most basic parameter upon which we plebs can arrive at an informed opinion.
Joe Grech
Jan 15th, 23:24
Mr. Miles A. Seaman was not that convincing in his comments. I believe that one can obtain further information about him in Linkedin.
Joe Sammut
Jan 16th, 08:43
That’s because you took him literally. If he were an American he would have said “A power sation in three years supplied by ships? You blokes must be crazy!”
It’s ‘unlikely’ you understood.
Joe Sammut
Jan 16th, 08:47
Try Miles Seaman BSc CEng CEnv MIChemE MEI at http://www.cambrensis.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Panelprofiles_Oct-2012.pdf
Joseph Micallef
Jan 15th, 22:55
What boggles my mind is that a quick search on google about Mr. Miles Seaman did not return any findings except his linkedIn profile, done by himself. I doubt the credibility of his findings. Ohh! He was appointed by GonziPN to conduct this study? NO, NO, NO.. I will just trash this article then.
Joe Sammut
Jan 16th, 08:48
Miles Seaman BSc CEng CEnv MIChemE MEI at
http://www.cambrensis.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Panelprofiles_Oct-2012.pdf
Warren Griscti
Jan 15th, 22:28
Gabu bix minalih imaqdar il-pjan tal-pl u minflok wera li jista jsir u muwiex bomba kif qal hu lol zelqa fin nixef ohra.
B. Farrugia
Jan 15th, 22:17
The PN shot itself in the foot.
Mario Desira
Jan 15th, 21:03
Science has become just another religion, with scientists replacing high priests, and God help you if you are a reputable scientist going out with and idea against mainstream science! The dogmas of infallibility and know-it-all has been adopted by many scientists, while real science and real scientists languish in some emarginated corner -.as the saying goes, there lies, damn lies and statistics
Mario Desira
Jan 15th, 20:57
I bet the PL can get an expert who says the opposite no? People should realise what most experts state (and that include judges psychiatrists, doctors, etc)is just an opinion - a look how academics function will reveal intellectual wars within wars. Experts also assure us mobile phones, animal micro-chipping and electromagnetic fields are safe to give an example, when the opposite is the truth
A Dimech
Jan 15th, 20:32
"He however wondered whether there as enough space and said it would be more desirable to build the tanks a bit further from the power station. Still, tanks were built close to power stations, notably in Japan."
this to me confirms that this project can be done;
The British expert is actually causing more harm to PN than to PL - becasue he is admitting that it can be done, and safety risks low.
Joe Sammut
Jan 16th, 08:51
You don’t understand English , you took him literally . He was being politely sarcastic.
If he were an Ausie from down under he would tell you that it’s bollocks.
Kurt Vella
Jan 15th, 19:56
I do hope that this expert is being paid by the PN, and not through my taxes, to sing Gonzi PN's tune
m. borg (slm)
Jan 15th, 19:50
Tonio Fenech shot himself in the foot.
Looks like gonzipn is playing to lose recommand that the press conference is aired entiely with the journalists' Q &A.
Stephen Gambin
Jan 15th, 19:48
Lol grazzi talli gibtuh I'll Dan l expert ghax tajtuna palata ohra looool grazzi tassew !!!!!!
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 19:45
@Eddy Privitera
Nice Eddy how you never have a counter argument and always do what you know how to do best ... teasing all those who do not share your own line of thinking rather then trying to convince them with valid and strong argument. I understand you. There is no valid and strong argument with what lejber is proposing for energy!
Joe Sammut
Jan 16th, 08:51
Iddeciedu !
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 15th, 19:35
Just for the record Dr Konrad Mizzi is a business consultant and not an Energy Technology consultant. That is the reason why in his arguments he only refers to 'factored costings' rather then the technology required. However he might have some expertise on project management.
Joseph Grech Attard
Jan 15th, 19:27
How can an expert, who was GonziPN's consultant and who did not open his mouth when GonziPN chose fuel oil instead of gas, yet now says that gas is better, dare open his mouth now and be credible? Are there other connections between him and GonziPN's administration? Is it true that Enemalta published a statement against the PL's energy plans? If so who paid for it? We or GonziPN.?
Mr Alistaire Gill
Jan 15th, 19:18
Milli jidher dan l-espert jifhem f'kollox.
Fl-Ingilterra sahansitra qabbduh jghati l-pariri tieghu dwar ir-rotot tal-karozzi tal-linja. Araw din is-site:
http://www.thecnj.com/camden/2008/070308
Ghalhiex min gab dan l-artiklu halla barra li l-unika esperjenza li kellu dan l-espert ta spluzzjoni ta' gass kienet f'pipeline fil-Belgju u mhux f'tank tal-gass?
Ian Calleja
Jan 15th, 19:17
Dear Osvaldo, it takes two to Tango!Or,as in the most basic of Newton's Laws of Motion: For every Action,there follows an Equal but Opposite Reaction.Since when has the PL monopoly of the Truth?How did you gauge that "nearly all stakeholders,constituted bodies,experts,general public" swallowed all this PL concocted thrash! PLmust publish its workings to be credible!
Mr Stephen Borg
Jan 15th, 19:16
It has become a habit with the Nationalist party to rubbish anything the opposition or someone else proposes.
They will rubbish anything the opposition will propose because all they have to show for twenty five years is minus six billion euros in the country coffers.
Frans Camilleri
Jan 15th, 19:02
How many LNG explosions and deaths caused by it have there been? Let's have an informed and objective discussion please, not scare tactics. In addition to some papers referenced by other readers, I recommend http://www.beg.utexas.edu/energyecon/lng/documents/CEE_LNG_Safety_and_Security.pdf and
http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/proceedings/02/ngt/Quillen.pdf.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 19:26
Yes why not. In Italy a train carrying containers of a gas exploded killing 14 people!!
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Rail_explosion_reported_at_Viareggio,_Italy
Can you imagine what would happen to the people living in the south of Malta if an accident happens to one of the tankers full of liquid gas? Or where the gas will be stored?
Joe Sammut
Jan 15th, 19:39
We only need one explosion to have a tragedy in Marsaxlokk Bay.
A leak or an explosion in the area would be disastrous for Malta.
What about the human error ?
T Gauci
Jan 15th, 18:50
Jekk tilbes suit tkun expert f'dan il pajjiz
martin brincat
Jan 15th, 19:27
Mela l-partit ta Gonzipn ghandu hafna esperti. Vera esperti . Ta' kif jaghmlu il-pajjiz midjun
j brincat
Jan 15th, 18:38
One wonders why GonziPN chose heavy fuel oil (HFO) instead of gas as all experts are pointing to this source of energy!
jb
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 15th, 19:22
Perhaps because the transportation is cheaper than gas
adrian dimech
Jan 15th, 19:31
nahseb ghadek ma fhimtx ghala . naheb il-gawwi jaf ukoll, Tista tistenna u gib Fondi mill-EU u tghamel pipe line, jew tista tghagel kemm tiflah tonfoq flus biex tghamel tankijiet , imbaghad tghamel pipe line, mela spiza doppja fuqna siehbi,
Bil hegga kollha li ghandek inti qlibtha il-karozza mill-petrol ghal gas. ?
Siehbi qattusa ghagilija frieh ghomja tghamel
Joe Sammut
Jan 15th, 19:31
Simple , it’s cheap , safe and fuel can be supplied in small shiploads while fly ash can be collected in filters and precipitators and disposed of safely under EU rules.
Leonard Cole
Jan 15th, 20:16
@ Brincat seeing your comments on a daily basis I wonder whether in your opinion PN has ever done anything good in 25 years ...
joseph Abdilla
Jan 15th, 18:35
Sur Bezzina veru ghandhom expert hafna tajbin bhal nghidu ahna Konrad Mizzi li kien manager tal-IT fl-enemalta . U bilhaqq fejn hu Joe Mizzi li ilu hames snin jitkellem fuq il-power station.
Angelo Polidano
Jan 15th, 19:50
Sur Abdilla, Joe Mizzi is busy pointing out were the oil is.
adrian dimech
Jan 15th, 18:25
Ejjew nghiduha kif inhuma l-affarijiet nahseb it-tekniku tal PL KM huwa Kink iktar minn dan l-espert ingliz mhux hekk jew.
Nahseb fuq din hemm bzonn U TURN GAS DOWN.
R. Aquilina
Jan 15th, 18:25
The PN are really getting to grips of being in opposition , as all they have done this past week is just oppose every single proposal from the PL. Are they going to bring over a foreign " expert " every time t he PL proposes a reform or project. Come on Dr. Gonzi get your candidates working and show us that you have a real team capable of winning an election, and not a bunch of laughing yes men.
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 15th, 18:38
If someone is going to sink your ship, first you have to stop them from sinking your ship before you can begin to talk about upgrading the services on board. Simple common sense.
Why don't you ask Joseph Muscat and Konrad Mizzi to show their studies that say they won't sink she ship, before you accept their claims blindly. Who's the laughing yes man, now?
Mark Borg
Jan 15th, 19:51
Cornelius Murphy, how come you want to see the LP's studies on their proposal and yet all these months you never once asked why GonziPN changed its policy on energy from one based on gas to one on HFO? Orf the terms of the BWSC contratc? Shall I continue listing? How come Mr Murphy? Illuminate us please.
Joe Camilleri
Jan 15th, 22:04
ermmm every single proposal.....o yes reduce electricity bills, the other one was reduce electricity bills and reduce electricity bills again and they have been saying this for the past 2 years in opposition and for the past 8 days
R Aquilina stop being a die hard lejber and wake up...didn t you get your wake up call in 1996 till 1998
pat muscat
Jan 15th, 18:24
Mr Seaman was a consultant for EneMalta's safety; we never saw him on TV when the toxic heavy oil was introduced; it was either confidential, data protection or arrogance-take your pick! Today Mr Seaman was seen in front of the camera with Tonio Fenech because of election propaganda!. But Mr Seaman did not play Tonio's tune; you have to bring an other 'expert': why don't you bring a Edward Mallia?
Joe Sammut
Jan 15th, 19:08
I think Dr Seaman did his job well at Delimara .
I don’t think he had anything to do with HFO and whoever made the risk assessments for the Delimara Plant did a good job , it was approved and was part financed by the EU.
We’re not in a vacuum and we have to abide by the EU rules on safety standards.
Edgar Gambin
Jan 15th, 19:14
On TVM Edward Mallia said that he cannot come to a conclusion about the whole project because the proposal is too dry. After all this is what people are saying. We need the studies to conclude. Don't you?
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 19:56
Pat, how comes we never hear you being so concerned about the PS emission before ,it seems lately everyone from the MLP is repeating after JM, I am for clean energy but then again if JM wants us to have a clean energy he should of invested in another interconnector and keep the DPS as a back-up , but ohh hold on that is already being done by the PN, opps no we need something different here!!!!
M Borg
Jan 15th, 20:21
Maybe you did not understand what he said. He said the project will take 6 years not 2 years. He said that the ground is not strong enough for the two large tanks to be placed on it.
He said that it is very dangerous to have these large tanks next to each other. He said that there are only 4 ships that we can use and that these are always chartered. so new ships have to be built. Is that enough?
Wilfred Camilleri
Jan 15th, 18:20
I pity anyone living close to an LNG terminal. An accident resulting in an explosion could kill everyone in the vicinity! LNG is a highly volatile liquid gas. Don't take my words for it. Check out these two documents:
http://www.quoddyloop.com/savepassamaquoddybay/documents/newspaper_inserts/insert-7.pdf and http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/oilgas/storag
Charles Cremona
Jan 15th, 18:47
If one of these LNG tanks blows up it will be like a miniture nuclear bomb, it will take out half of Malta with it, never mind the power station where they will be sighted.
Joe Sammut
Jan 15th, 19:11
And our so called expert Dr Conrad wanted to put the tanks against ALL safety standards , underground resulting in an explosion which increases exponentially.
Simply crazy!
Wally Vella-Zarb
Jan 15th, 19:14
The Passamaquoddy Bay group has a vested interest in that it wants to keep the LNG terminal away from their tribal lands.This is also known as the NIMBY syndrome. Same risks as our Qajjenza. They also highlight the vulnerability to terrorist attacks; remember that in the United States most things are viewed through the experience of 9/11. The other link does not even mention any extraordinary risk
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 15th, 19:27
@ Charles Cremonait will take out half of Malta with it,
Well Malta is divided into parts so then the ather half
they will live happily ever after
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 15th, 19:30
I don't recall you guys saying the same thing when the gas tanks were built at Il-Qajjenza. But of course! Those were built under Gonzi's patrionage- so that's Ok then.
Ray Abela
Jan 15th, 20:04
@Charles Cremona...A miniature nuclear bomb will obliterate Malta, half of Sicily and Northern Tunisia...I lived in London next to a gas tank that would fit 5 MOSTA DOMES......It never exploded...In fact it is probably still there.....
Tony Zammit
Jan 16th, 07:37
Mr Andrew Camilleri
agree with you .. Il-Qajjenza Gas tanks nobody complaing about them.
Mark Borg
Jan 15th, 18:12
Pity that Tonio Fenech does not bring some more experts like Mr Seaman to continue to rubbish the decision to go for HFO!
martin brincat
Jan 15th, 17:49
Lil dan misshom gabuh qabel ma ghamlu l-power station li tahdem bil Heavy Oil mhux issa. Sorry too late I decided whom i'll vote this election .
Frans Aguis
Jan 15th, 17:49
So how much was this expert payed to share his opinions?
Alex Dalli
Jan 15th, 17:14
Experts from overseas?
Like the one that told you to make all roads into a single lane to avoid accidents. We ended up with one big traffic jam.
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:09
For me, the what raises the biggest question, (ONE of the many questions), is the time they plan to finish the power station. If it takes them as long as it's taking them to restore Australia Hall, the power station will NEVER be finished. Other questions: Will there be ANYONE interested in this project? Should PL be trusted? Should some of their advisers be trusted?
m. borg (slm)
Jan 15th, 18:00
If the project is entrusted to gonzipn then you are right, Mater Dei is a good example of PN'gonzipn efficiency.
But it is wrong to measure others with the same ruler.
George Cassar
Jan 15th, 19:39
Mr. Borg,
You always mention Australia Hall, by any chance do you live there?
M Borg
Jan 15th, 20:24
@ m.borg (slm)
You can use any ruler you like. The end result will always be the same. This project will take 6 years if not more. Ask the expert.
joe micallef
Jan 15th, 17:09
Attn Tonio Fenech..........who is paying for such propaganda that serves only the Nationalist party in its electoral capaign?
You are not representing the Malta governement interests but your party' black flag.
The tax payers is interested in the reduction in energy tariffs and until you can provide a better solution that the PL your party is lagging far behind labour mate!
m. borg (slm)
Jan 15th, 17:08
Mr Seaman is the chairman of Technical Ltd "The company has enjoyed strong success in a niche market, supplying electrical / instrumentation system designs and equipment for offshore sea platforms and dockside facilities used to deliver natural gas supplies to shore from huge specialist vessels"
Note "for offshore sea platforms" something gonzipn are dreaming about and the carrot for Mr Seaman
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 17:07
@ Edward Mallia
Since you’re speaking on behalf of the MLP, can you answer a simple question, what’s keeping the MLP from publishing the studies it conducted? Do I not have the right to know in full details of what I'm asked to vote for? If this project requires of me to pay higher tax do I have the right to know?? No O levels required to answer me
Nazzareno Cortis
Jan 15th, 18:11
Erick---you know for sure that voting for PN means voting for a heavy fuel oil power station!!!!!
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 18:32
Incorrect, the PN made the investment in the lnterconnector and the gas pipeline which planet your living on
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 19:05
@ Eric Bonello
One by one.
1. I am not speaking on behalf of the MLP.
2. Therefore you should ask that question to the MLP or PL.
3. Did you ever ask the PN govt. to publish full details of the studies or projects on which your taxes were being spent?
4. I did, which means that my answer to your 2nd & 3rd questions is yes, though I can see the need for some reserved areas.
cont.
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 19:19
cont.
5. The response I got was pretty near zero. I could sound off about rights, wrongs and Aarhus conventions to my hearts' content.
6. So the worst you can say is that the PL is aping the PN govt. If you want to be fair, you will admit that in this case the PL has revealed a damn sight more than the PN ever did. Remember the Mistra Disco at the last election? Where were your rights then?
M. Bezzina
Jan 15th, 16:58
mhux ingibu in nies min barra ghalla agenda tana jew!!!Manniex bzonn barranin jghidulna xinu tajjeb alina...ghadna nies kapaci Malta
Peppi Borg
Jan 15th, 16:56
Mr.Seaman cancelled out Tonio Fenech's scaremongering.
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:11
Peppi, for most Maltese, Mr Seaman CANCELLED PL's project! You didn't understand anything!
P Borg
Jan 15th, 16:55
Publish your report now, MLP! MLP's plan won't work, we wait and see! THAT is why the report is hidden!
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:13
The PL will NOT publish the report....BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST! It's just pure guesswork.
George Cassar
Jan 15th, 19:42
The PL will not publish its report because it was paid for with private funds not public ones. The PL is not the government. So stop harping about that. The Government never published the reasons why it chose HFO instead of Gas in 2006. It was our money used for paying zillions of experts. And look at the results!
Anthony Grech
Jan 15th, 16:55
Iva Tonio Fenech l'anqas issa ma rnexxielu jsib xi CUC Malti ? Milli jidher ma tantx ghawn CWIEC Maltin lesti jzommu l-forcina zoppa ta' GonziPN. Kellu jinqeda b'wiehed barrani?
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:18
Ic-cwiec Maltin emmnu l-'forcina zoppa' tal-PL dwar il-VAT. U tant irnexxew il-PL, li l-Maltin 'helsu minnhom' ghal 15 il sena! Ghalfejn ghandhom jafdw lil Joe issa, li ftit ilu ta parir lil Gonzi jsegwi lil Cipru? Imn'Alla Gonzi ntelligenti iktar minn Joe, ghax kieku sema' minnu, dahhalna f'hajt. U nafdaw lil min icapcap lid-deputy tieghu, u l-ghada jqacctu. Mela lil Malta x'jghamililha?
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 20:24
Correct Anthony, and that's the mistake from the MLP and JM, they are treating us like the MAKKU they use to call us, they thing that at the end we'll just take their word for it. but, we're not and unless all studies and reports are published within due time we will not vote MLP and the people will elect the PN to govern Malta again no need to risk loosing everything now on a mere 2c6 reduction
jm busuttil
Jan 15th, 16:54
To all the PL. Konrad is no energy consultant . A known fact.
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:14
That's true, but his father is in MEA, and that counts, at least for PL.
R Axisa
Jan 15th, 17:37
Nahseb ghandek zball ta!
Mario Galea
Jan 15th, 19:07
What do you mean he isn't ? he is very persuasive. I say go for it and to h--- with this expert. Indhil barrani dan. Fix jifhem.
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 15th, 19:33
@ RAxisa. Dr Konrad Mizzi is a business consultant and have no expertise in energy technology. That is the reason why he only refers to 'factored costings' in his arguments
M Micallef
Jan 15th, 19:40
Axisa Konrad is not an energy consultant. It's a fact
James Tyrrell
Jan 15th, 16:54
Given the fact that GonziPN paid this expert 3000 Euros for his opinions how much weight can be given to them? He's hardly going to take the 3000 Euros and then support the opposition!
Alan Abela
Jan 15th, 17:06
The 3K your are refering to is the money paid to KPMG and NOT to this expert!
M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:22
This expert was talking in English I am sure you understood all he said. He said that he was not paid to give this talk but he felt, that after reading about it he had to give his share.
The $3000 were paid to KPMG so get your facts right first.
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 15th, 16:52
''Finance Minister Tonio Fenech said Miles A Seaman, who was invited by the Nationalist Party, had extensive experience in power stations, gas installations, and safety issues.''
Looks like it's all Gas & GAITERS!!
m. borg (slm)
Jan 15th, 16:51
Instead of telling us what is gonzipn's alternatives to PL proposals Tonio is back to his old tricks of "cwiec" maltin seeing that the proposals have been endorsed by a good number of people who matter and goes for "il-bravi" foreigners .
People who would sell their msoul for a free holiday.
Neil Zammit
Jan 15th, 17:24
we all know what PN thinks about energy. Its heavy fuel oil....and in 10 years a mixture of oil and gas (from the pipeline) The question is would you rather use an unhealthy power station with heavy fuel oil or a greener one with gas?
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:24
m borg Gonzipn have been showing their alternatives for the past 15 years, but since you are a Onetv overdosed, you missed all the fun. You missed the pipeline, which Joseph, as usual, is copying. You missed the solar energy projects running for many years now, throughout Malta. One of the 'bravi' who praised Joe's project, is a fraudster, escaped from Malta. This was NOT shown on Onetv!
Osvaldo Pace
Jan 15th, 16:51
Can anyone explain how come to build up a new power station (BWSC ) we just found it on the yellow pages and to try to put down a proposal which nearly all the stake holders, constitute bodies, experts and generally public is positive about the PN already commissioned to reports and worst one of which it will be paid from our taxes. Can this be interpreted as panic
Eddy Privitera
Jan 15th, 16:50
This UK expert has made it plain that his views are based on " INFORMATION HE WAS FED " ! Guess who FED him the information ? This is the same tactic used by Tonio Fenech and GonziPN when asking KPMG to prepare a report in record ONE DAY.. KPMG made a number of disclaimers disassociating themselves from the correctness of the information given to them " by third parties" !! Guess who it was ???
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:27
Eddie. Likewise, the PL 'experts' were fed by PL themselves. The same PL who gave a completely different meaning to Profs Mallia's reports on Onenews! One of the PL foreign experts who gave them a green light, is a fraudster, with a criminal record, escaped from Malta. Ma min rajtek xebbahtek, Ed.
C Briffa
Jan 15th, 17:57
listen to eddy he is an expert he is talking from lp wide experience
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 15th, 17:58
Why are you surprised Eddy? The PL presntation was not endorsed by the qualified expertese. It was Konrad Mizzi who has been repeating the same arguments without any official foreign proof. One time he says tanks will be built in Delimara foot print then he says underground, LAQWA LI JORHOS ID DAWL U L ILMA. U fejnu Mizzi mela dan ma ghadux il kelliem tal Lajber ghall energija?
Another deputy PL
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 20:01
well EDDIE why not stop here & the MLP publish it's studies and reports so we can have the final conclusion and this country can move forward on another subject !!! if he was fed the wrong information as you said , who's fault is that ??? and since you know the facts can you please state the capital cost/kwh is projected to operate the plant ?????
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 15th, 16:50
X'tkinkwethom din il bicca xoghol tal energija lil pn...lanqas jafu fejn ha jaqbdu jaghtu rashom. Qishom bhal kelb jigri wara dembu!
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:32
Ovvjament li tinkwitahom. Meta PL ilhom jghidulna li Malta falluta, bla flus, mejta bil-guh.....u issa qed jipproponu progett ta' 600,000,000. Minn fejn gejjin dawn? Jekk l-investituri Maltin falluti, bhalma qalu PL, MIN se jinvesti? Jekk il-progett ta' Joe ma jirnexxix, jigrilna bhall-progett tal-VAT li ma rnexxiex. Min bata, Fred? Int u jien! U nisimghu minn Joe li ppropona lil Cipru?
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 15th, 20:27
@Joe M Borg
L-ewwel nett dawk il 600 M huma BISS figment of imagination li jezisti biss fl mhuh tal pn... ghax jaqbilom jejdu hekk.
U tieni jinkwitaw biss il pn ghax jekk majitilux jitilfu dik il bicca l-aham li ilghom ippapu ghal dawn l-ahhar 25 sena!
J Chircop
Jan 15th, 16:44
I feel the when it comes to figures and projections this failed aspiring GonziPN leader should lay low with his track record...
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:36
Watching Onetv you missed ALL PN track records, including: record tourism; record jobs; record university students; record aviation workers; record IT jobs; record women workers;
Joseph's records include: NO to EU; no to Euro; advice to Iceland; 'Made in Brussels'; advice on Cyprus; Anglu's stabbing; Simon's Louis copycat;
Need we compare MORE their track records, Mr Chircop? Better stop, eh?
carmel vella
Jan 15th, 19:25
@Joe M Borg
& Record in deficit year after year
Record in national debt
Record in lies after all.
Gonzi cannot be trusted once again! Bil-Malti nghidu: tilef il-qaleb u l-gbejna!
Too much is too much!
J Chircop
Jan 15th, 20:25
I was referring to this minister in particular
But if you want to derail we can do so....
Failure in public transport, air malta, drydocks, smart city, 1/2 of the countries debt under this prim minister in particular, all of it under PN, sea malta, privatisation of all profit making companies, double the gov tax income over 10 years, electricity bills, waiting lists, party financing, whistle blow
J Chircop
Jan 15th, 20:27
JM is fresh and gives us Maltese hope. PN is stale, stagnant and continuously scarmongering! Lastest phrase to be used is dinosaurs... Takes on to know one
All we've heard it nag nag nag! No beef!
Joe Camilleri
Jan 15th, 16:40
The PL concentrated their electoral programme on reducing energy bills by 25 per cent which thinking about it is not that much - if you spend 1000 euros per year on electricity, you save 250 euros each year - thats what all the fuss is about
More important issues are to be addressed - oh sorry for the past 25 years PN have addressed them and PL have nothing else to address!!
Eve Axiaq
Jan 15th, 16:46
Mur staqsi lil lukandiera, hwienet, restoranti u fabbriki u tkun taf what the fuss is all about.
R Axisa
Jan 15th, 17:01
If you don't agree with the reduction, may be you are well off, you can always refuse it and donate it towards the benefit of enemalta's red balance.
Believe me, even the least reduction would be appreciated by those families who find it very difficult to make ends meet.
cesco di luigi
Jan 15th, 17:39
I tend to agree. God forbid that this election is going to revolve solely around this issue. What about other matters, such as principles?
Joe M Borg
Jan 15th, 17:40
E Axiaq, R Axisa. You should have written these comments back in 1996-8, when Sant raised the tariffs when oil was at $12 a barrel. And when he introduced CET and 33 other taxes. Remember, that it was PN that reduced or removed 25 of PL's taxes. 'Believe me, even the least reduction....' There i simply NO comparison!
C Briffa
Jan 15th, 17:59
@Eve il-jum li jieqfu jgerrgru tan-negozju id-dinja tkun ilha xi gimgha li spiccat
Giocchino Attard
Jan 15th, 18:14
My electric bills add up to 1700 a year that would give me 425 euros back under the pl plan.Is that good or bad ?
Joe Camilleri
Jan 15th, 21:40
R Axisa you are making ends meet on a PL proposal that has no assurances except for the assurances of a party that wants to win an election after a quarter of a century in opposition
your comments would have been more appropriate in 1996.the PL had promised many things like removing VAT but never mentioned CET which was even higher than VAT and removal of stipends etc etc etc etc
George Cassar
Jan 15th, 16:36
Nenu,
The PL's proposal has already consumed 8 days of the PN's time of electoral campaigning and we are still waiting for the PN's proposals on anything really! Why is the PN so intent on shooting down these proposals? Is it because they may be very true?
Eve Axiaq
Jan 15th, 16:43
Good one.
jm busuttil
Jan 15th, 16:53
@ George Cassar
Stop watching One and see and read other media. Dr. Gonzi last Sunday gave his proposals for Gozo. Joseph Muscat was in Gozo and said nothing.
Here is a link if you are interested to know.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130113/elections-news/gonzi-explains-pn-s-plans-for-gozo.453019
George Cassar
Jan 15th, 17:35
@jm busuttil
I'm sorry to disappoint you but I have been channel surfing and web surfing like crazy and the fact remains that the PN have been lambasting the PL's energy plans for a whole week. And to tell me that Joseph Muscat didn't propose anything for Gozo means you only watch NET TV
Joe Camilleri
Jan 15th, 21:29
PN s proposal is what you see is what you get............low unemployment rates, good economy in a time of crisis etc etc,i can keep going on and on
PL proposal to date is a reduction in electricity bills by 25 per cent. 25 per cent back on your electricity bills will give you back 2 weeks of groceries Giocchino Attard in one year and as for Eve all restaurants etc complain cause they r packed
J. Camilleri
Jan 15th, 16:34
F'dawn ix-xaghrejn li gejjin ha naraw hafna "irjus kbar" mil-ewropa jiftahhru bit-tmexxija ta' pajjizna. Ara vera network ta nies hziena!
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 16:46
... and not for a second you think they MIGHT BE RIGHT and lejber is wrong! Lejber has been painting the picture of doom and gloom when we all know that here in Malta we have it much better then Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal and Cyprus ... and island which Joseph Muscat seemed to love so much but now never mentions it again! How can you trust Joseph Muscat?
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 16:33
In short lejber want to take us all for a ride another time ... just like they did in 1996! lejber diehards wake up from the dream! The ONLY real option for our country is PN!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 15th, 16:52
Joseph Aquilina: You will soon wake up from your dream - on March 10 ! And the Maltese People will finally breathe a sigh of relief !
m. borg (slm)
Jan 15th, 16:55
Joseph tied the feasibilty to his credibility something neither Tonio or gonzi ever did. Name just one project they took upon themselves to finish in time.
None whatso ever.
The Foreign expert had this to say "...although one could never say anything was impossible." and I believe gonzi's slogan in 2008 was "Flimkien kollox Possibli"
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 15th, 16:57
@ Joseph Aquilina The ONLY real option for our country is PN!
IS >>> TO >>> STEP >>> ASIED !!!!
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 15th, 16:28
JUST SMOKE IN THE AIR
I do not blame Miles A Seaman , if the studies of the finance of the power station were based on how
Tonio Fenech runs the finance's of Malta , they always been Higher deficit record !!!!
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 16:35
Did you read the article! Comment on what this expert has to say rather then just throw mud! Do you have any counter arguments!?
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 15th, 16:44
Joseph Aquilina Do you have any counter arguments!?
HA HA HI YES FROM the Yalow pages HA HA HI
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 18:15
@Joseph Brincat
I hope you know you just prove me right ...
J. Camilleri
Jan 15th, 16:22
tonio borg u shabu tkomplux turuna kemm into tac-cajt.... drajnijhom dawm il-kumidji!!!!!!!!!
M Micallef
Jan 15th, 16:47
I think its the whole energy mix issue which seems to be tac-cajt.
Christian Ellul
Jan 15th, 16:47
Tonio borg x'ghandu x'jaqsam?
Lawrence Attard
Jan 15th, 16:22
Nispera li mhux it taxpayer ukoll hallas biex jingieb is sur Seaman biex jintuza bhalla propaganda il pn. Diversi "cwiec" Maltin diga qablu li l pjan tal pl fih hafna affarijiet posittivi u nippreferi l-opinjoni ta' "cuc" Malti li jaf lill pajjizu minn xi hadd li gie jiehu holiday minn fuq dahrna. Jekk mhux se johorgu bxi haga konkreta id distak bejn il partit se jizfied baktar favur il labour.
C Briffa
Jan 15th, 18:07
Nahseb li l-poplu kollu ser jispicca cuc ta xi barrani li qed jisponsorja lil pl
Ray Abela
Jan 15th, 16:22
Mr Seaman is a safety expert as he rightly so stated. If Tonio wanted the Maltese electorate to form a credible opinion from this pathetic charade, he failed, he should have at least invited Conrad Mizzi to answer personally to issues presented by the safety expert there and then. What I heard were mere conjectures and observations. "Some" journalists were trying to put words into his mouth!
M Borg
Jan 15th, 16:43
We have all heard and heard and heard .... Conrad Mizzi. What we want now is to see and read , we have heard enough.
If he had to put the workings on the table things will be very different. We want more than just the answer of 9c6.We want the workings. When everyone says that the cost will be much higher, we want to hear Conrad Mizzi explain to us , with workings why they are wrong.
Zuzu Borg
Jan 15th, 18:14
Why Conrad Mizzi he is not an expert in this matter but in IT and we are fed up of him because he is saying the same all the time.
Ray Abela
Jan 15th, 18:39
@M Borg The article is about safety NOT costings, please read again before commenting. Stick to the agenda. "When everyone says that the cost will be much higher" Who is everyone? The PN.. try and remove your blue blinkers. It may help.
@ Zuzu Borg. "we are fed up of him because he is saying the same all the time" At least he is reliable and consistent...
stephen portelli
Jan 15th, 16:20
Imisskom tisthu minflok taraw kif ser iggibuna il quddiem qed timpikaw mal pl . Min flusna gibtu espert biex turu xiex ..? Ma hlejtux flus bizejjed kemm tifilhu taqaw iktar baxxi min hekk. Ghidu l ideat godda u x ser tghamlu mhux timpikaw . Qed Turu kemm inthom f paniku.
zammit o
Jan 15th, 16:20
it is very evident that the Nationalist Party is panicking. Tonio Fenech failed miserably in his attempts to discredit Labour's energy proposal. Consequently, they brought this guy from the UK to do Tonio's job.
But, unfortunately for the PN, the more they try the more people are convinced that Labour' proposal is doable.
albert galea
Jan 15th, 16:19
Tonio Fenech ahjar jghdiln ghala iz zieda ta lgholi tal hajja ma inatatx lil penzjonanti milli jibqa jinsisti li il PN ma jridx irahhas il kontijiet tad dawl u ilma
P Sciberras
Jan 15th, 16:18
Looks like this is another expert from the UK, similar to the one also from the UK who gave the advice how to loose 40,000,000 euros with the Fairmount contract,and escaped back to the UK. MR. Seaman should face Dr Mizzi and not listen to more cucati advice,unless he had already returned back to the UK,
Michiel Paetzel
Jan 15th, 16:13
I guess Minister Tonio Fenech should be careful who to ask to speak on behalf of the PN, it seems that this gentleman is on a crusade against bad bus service LOL
http://www.thecnj.com/camden/2008/070308/news070308_12.html
Even better, the committee he is the treasurer off cares about a lot of things where the PN doesn't seem to have a very good track record in
http://www.whatnw6.org.uk/
Salvu Sciberras
Jan 15th, 16:23
Better! According to your argument the gentleman is than less suspect and his views carry more weight.
john muscat
Jan 15th, 16:13
It looks as if the PN doesn't want the people to have cheaper electricity rates. Why oh why, I wonder. As yet I haven't heard anything else except criticising the LP without the PN saying how and when they will reduce the bills.
George Grech
Jan 15th, 16:12
The first question should be: With the interconnector delivering cheaper electricity by 2014, do we really need this plant?
M Grima
Jan 15th, 16:25
Tell that to the 'Movimento Territorio Ragusa' that the interconnector would be hooked by 2014. Not that I wish it but GonziPN only excels in promising, haphazard planning and never delivering.
Pierre Micallef-Grimaud
Jan 15th, 16:10
Proposals, plans, local & foreign experts, W&E bills, gas, fuel oil .... we got weeks ahead of listening to all these items on the party's agendas. Most of us would be well prepared to obtain a B.Sc or Masters or certificates in Physics or chemistry at this rate. Is electricity the only problem Malta would be facing in the coming years?
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 20:30
well no not really under the MLP government we will have more then just one problem to face, like higher taxes, higher tariffs @ 5% increase over and above the current standing rate, unemployment, a full EU bail out, loss of stipends for uni students, pay for medical service, sorry Pierre but the list is to long to type it all in here
Nenu Cassar
Jan 15th, 16:09
I don't know why the PN brought Mr Seaman. As it appears below, we have a long list of experts who consult wikipedia as if it is God's truth. I am not sure who is 100 percent right but it appears that Joseph Muscat is turning himself into a magician, a sort of Merlin, or rather Midas. As soon as he becomes Prime Minister next March he will be turning everything into gold.
A. Xuereb
Jan 15th, 16:08
So first Tonio Fenech gets Enemalta to finance a 3000 Euro report and now he finds an expert who comes forward voluntarily to criticize PL s energy proposal. Is it true this UK expert has been Enemalta s consultant since 2002? If it is true then he should hang his head in shame and crawl under a rock as Enemalta has clocked up 800 million Euros in debt.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 16:38
So what if yes? The question is; ARE YOU ABLE TO COUNTER THE ARGUMENTS HE IS MAKING? Or for you just because Joseph said its good is enough!?
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 15th, 16:52
3000 Euro is 0.05% of what Joseph Muscat's proposal will cost to build, so why not if it is necessary to convince the Maltese people to avoid this fracas?
"Qis mitt darba u aqta darba" as we say, but Labour have shown not one proper study or working to convince us their extraordinary claim of a 25% reduction in bills can work. You should thank Tonio Fenech for doing their homework for them!
A. Xuereb
Jan 15th, 16:55
@ Joseph Aquilina: it is true,he has been a consultant to Enemalta since 2002. He can't be that great otherwise Enemalta wouldn't have an 800 million Euro in debt.If he is such a great expert why hasnt he advised the government on how to give us cleaner energy and cheaper bills? Or is it because he was never asked to as those exorbitant energy bills are making good for Enemalta's losses?
m. borg (slm)
Jan 15th, 16:59
Exactly Tonio knew that KPMG's report would not hold water no credible report is started and finished in 5 hours
Now Tonio went one further and engaged a-cuc-malti to help him hoodwink the people. This so called expert came and gave us his expertise in less than 24 hours after the KMPG report.
Get real Tonio you are losing it and it is a shame at such a young age.
Andrew Siad
Jan 15th, 17:41
which argument joseph aquilina....?
that the project is in fact doable like the so called 'expert' said?
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 15th, 17:55
@ m. borg (slm)
Have you seen the Labour reports and studies, m. borg? Are they credible? Please tell us.
I don't believe Labour have any reports that justify their proposal and especially the 25% price reduction they are promising in order to steal votes from the gullible. That's an extraordinary claim to make and so it requires extraordinary evidence to be believed. People wake up!
Salvu Sciberras
Jan 15th, 16:08
As one day follows anther it becomes more evident that the PL plans for energy generation are amateurish, will not make electricty cheaper and cannot be achieved within the stated time-frames.
Edgar Gambin
Jan 15th, 20:26
Like
B Vella
Jan 15th, 16:06
We can't trust the PN on Energy . Nobody is going to forget the BWSC Fiasco.
No more Heavy Fuel Oil Please.!
Lawrence Attard
Jan 15th, 16:28
Forsi ghad jassal iz zmien li jinkiexef tassew kif tqassmu 4 miljun ewro commission? Viva il yellow pages. Leo Brincat bil mistoqsija li ghamel fuq xarabank deher li jaf xi haga jew tefa hdejn il lik?
Mark Borg
Jan 15th, 16:03
Where are the PN proposals? We are in the second week of the campaign and all we get from the PN is negativity. Come on tell the HOW, BY WHEN and at WHAT COST of your proposals. Supposing that you have any, that is.
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 15th, 16:27
There's none so blind as those who will not see.
Here is Tonio Fenech's 2nd press conference in a week explaining away Labours lies on the matter and showing with facts and figures how the PN energy strategy is superior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fetm4zNwJh0
Somehow, I doubt you will bother to watch it, much less understand it, Mr Borg, so I won't bother finding the first one for you.
B Ellul
Jan 15th, 16:02
I would give a chance to the MLP.... prepare for another election in 24months....
CHARLIE GRECH
Jan 15th, 16:06
Not on your live
A. Xuereb
Jan 15th, 17:01
The PL have hopefully learned from the masters themselves (PN) on 'how to hang on to power at all costs'.Is this why the PN wanted a 2 month campaign,so it could get its house in order? They plan to keep on bashing Labour for the next 2 weeks and then give us some half baked proposals over the remaining 4 weeks.Those that have had it good will then cheer and clap at these wonderful proposals .
Alex Ellul
Jan 15th, 16:02
The nominal avrg cost of electricity in the UK is ~21c. The PL is trying to convince us that the rate will go down by 25% from the current rate which for us low-end consumers is about 16 cents. Thus the price at 25% less would be ~12 cents which is just a bit more than half what it is in the UK. Does PL know something that the British don't?
Has the PL discovered a cheap source of gas?
John Micallef
Jan 15th, 16:00
This was a complex design, and building would certainly take two to three years after permits was issued. To say just two years was very ambitious...although one could never say anything was impossible.
By Mr Seaman's own estimates, should normal timescales be followed, it would take six years to build the gas terminal close to the power station.
Permits will take 3 to 4 years Mr Fenech? lol
George Cassar
Jan 15th, 15:59
On his LinkedIn profile he describes himself as a "specialising in major hazard safety on the process industries". So as he said in the press conference more than once - he is out of his depth on some issues hew was asked to comment. So why did they get him if his area of specialisation is "major hazard safety"?
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/miles-seaman/7/379/915
M Borg
Jan 15th, 16:12
Because he said what had to be said about health & safety. What he said that the two big tanks cannot be built in the same place of the small tanks . To do the safety tests before planing he said that those alone will take 1 year. + 2 years for planning and between 3 to 4 years in building. That makes up to a least 6 years.
He also said that the 2 bid tanks were a safety hazard .
John Azzopoardi
Jan 15th, 15:58
why is this guy meddling in Maltese affairs.........why not talk about the problems they are having in the UK and talk about the impact the UK withdrawal from the EU will have..........We no need this man to tell us much.
M Borg
Jan 15th, 16:14
We do need this man or any other expert to tell us if want we are going to have will work. Always willing to hear any other expert.
Maybe if we had the workings we would know were we stand, as it is we are still in the dark with just the answer of 9c6.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 15th, 15:57
What is this fuss the Gonzi pn sapoters are comment on ??
Miles A Seaman never said that it could not be done !!
SO Tonio Fenech all you have done is JUST SMOKE IN THE AIR >> HA HA HI
Joe Grech
Jan 15th, 15:54
Looks to me that he's just parroting what Tonio Fenech said just a few days ago!! Who paid this guy?? And how much!! They could have asked me to do it for them!!!!!
A Dimech
Jan 15th, 15:54
If PL's plans were not serious, why bother to bring KPMG and a UK consultant?
with time, it is being shown that PL is right once again.
PN is only snipping around the edges - oh it cannot be done in time, oh it is not safe, oh, oh , oh!!
M Micallef
Jan 15th, 16:51
A Dimech, on the contrary time has showed that such political stunts are now familiar within PL, like for example the VAT removal, Im not sure if you clearly remember such a promise.
C BONDIN
Jan 15th, 15:53
Pls google this / Vitol 10 years Lng agreement
And also than google these pls http://stockgumshoe.com/reviews/energy-strategist/my-1-lng-tanker-stock-to-buy-now-energy-strategist/
Than you might have some answers
P Borg
Jan 15th, 16:08
At a FIXED PRICE, please? This is the question, not the 10-year supply itself. If yes, please point out where the fixed price is mentioned.
Joe Sammut
Jan 15th, 16:28
I did, and found out that a ten year supply agreement can exist but not on a fixed price . It’s like hiring a truck to deliver your goods on your doorstep.
You buy the goods, the truck delivers the goods you buy.
Mr Joseph Azzopardi
Jan 15th, 15:53
Why should we take the word of this 'expert' when the proposal put forward by the PL was designed by DNV KEMA who have more than 2000 specialised experts worldwide and are second to none in providing such solutions in the energy industry?
Salvu Sciberras
Jan 15th, 16:19
Wrong. KEMA did nothing of the sort. What struck me is that they said piped gas is a cheaper option.
D Schembri
Jan 15th, 15:52
but why does not the PN comes with its own agenda rather than attacking PL???? daqshekk bla idejat?
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 15th, 16:14
The PN has a very clear agenda on energy but now it has been forced to rebut Labour's quickly cobbled-together plans and nicely rounded figures (without any supporting reports or workings to speak of).
Labour have it easy because they somehow manage to impress the most gullible with the false promise of saving them a few euros, and it's a hard task to explain to those people why that won't work.
Steve Zammit
Jan 15th, 15:52
Ma kontx naf li hawn daqshekk nies li jifmhu fil-gass.
Kollha esperti kontu hirgin
B Ellul
Jan 15th, 16:01
hehe iva ta. Il gahan Malti sar professur fuq kollox.... Solvejna problema kbira, we now have all the expertise in-house.
George Azzopardi
Jan 15th, 15:49
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembroke_Power_Station
See this example recently built 2,000 MWe natural gas-fired power station which has 5 x 400 MWe generation units. Cost is 960 million euros (800 million sterling). Note that this power station has a capacity of 10 times that to be made in Malta and was built in 4 years!!
P Borg
Jan 15th, 16:02
The website says: "In December 2012, the European Commission sent a notice of infringement the British government. The notice lists 18 SEPARATE VIOLATIONS of four EU laws regarding the plant's cooling system. The EU commission has requested that the British government prove the new power station's cooling system does not adversely affect marine wildlife in the Milford Haven waterway."
George Azzopardi
Jan 15th, 16:16
@M Borg .. this is 2000MW PS .. 10 x that of Malta!!!!
P Borg
Jan 15th, 16:49
@George Azzopardi: So what? Is this how we should do our analysis? Are you by any chance implying that we can have all this done in one-tenth of 4 years, i.e. 5 months?! What do you comment about the 18 violations of 4 EU laws then? Do you truly believe all this can be done in 2 years?! MLP'S PLAN WON'T WORK ... WE WAIT AND SEE!
Andrew Siad
Jan 15th, 15:49
dan nemmnuh ax mux xi 'cuc' malti
Mr raynond ciancio
Jan 15th, 15:57
cwiec hemm mad dinja kollha habib tieghi, naf jien ghax hdimt maghhom
Joe Pace Asciak
Jan 15th, 15:48
“Dr Muscat said his government would aim to reduce bureaucracy by 25 per cent”. The magic number is 25.
Daniel Camilleri
Jan 15th, 15:48
I sincerely thank minister Fenech for bringing forward Mr. Miles A Seaman. I'm more convinced that PL's proposal is doable.
Nicholas Borg
Jan 15th, 15:55
Nobody claimed it is not "doable". The issue is cost and timeframes, and this is precisely where Labour are taking us for a ride.
M Grima
Jan 15th, 16:05
Is this guy second surname 'Nostrodamus'?
Andrew Siad
Jan 15th, 15:47
kont h sibt li l pantomimi kinu spiccaw wara li amilna sena shiha addejin bijom qabel waqa l gvern.
Mr Peter Korsten
Jan 15th, 15:47
One wonders why they didn't bother to find an expert to corroborate their idea of building an undersea tunnel for a mere €150 million.
A Cachia
Jan 15th, 15:59
Thinking about it........ :)
S. Caruana
Jan 15th, 15:46
Mr.Miles those who brought here are MILES away from credebility!!
James Vendetta
Jan 15th, 15:46
"However, due to economic, environmental and technological changes, natural gas has become the fuel of choice for new power plants built since the 1990s."
http://www.naturalgas.org/overview/uses_eletrical.asp
"At the end of 2005, a total of 203 vessels have been built, of which 193 are still in service."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNG_carrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_natural_gas
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 19:32
No one is saying that a gas power station would not be ideal. The problem is **HOW** to get the gas here. Lejber is still in the age of the middle ages and want to invest in tankers to transport the liquid gas. PN wants to transport gas through a gas line that would also feed the whole of the EU! Now think about it for a few second put politics aside and ask yourself.. which sounds as the best opt
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 15th, 15:43
Miles A Seaman said one could never say anything was impossible.
The PL have the will to deliver and they well
B Ellul
Jan 15th, 16:01
Dahhaq :) :)
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 19:33
Yes, like they had the will to remove VAT and introduce 33 new taxes!
George Cassar
Jan 15th, 15:42
I just saw this conference and Mr. Seaman clearly said that "it is comparatively unusual" to have fires or explosions in these types of installations.
So why are people below saying otherwise? Or is I heard a different press conference?
CHARLIE GRECH
Jan 15th, 16:29
I live in the uk for 40 years 2.5 miles away from my home there a gas tank there never been any explosions or fires and if you take the train to London you pass an other gas tank .. Still there I just past from there on the 10/01/2013
Giocchino Attard
Jan 15th, 18:39
Their time is ending
Albert Scicluna
Jan 15th, 15:40
Mr Tonio Fenech
Mr Panic Station
joseph green
Jan 15th, 15:56
Shame on you Conrad
M Grima
Jan 15th, 16:14
@ Joseph Green
You sound an angry man Mr. Green. Come and join our Movement and find your peace. By the way the name is Konrad, Dr. Konrad Mizzi. Can I ask why he should be ashamed just because he exposed the incompetence and mess within GonziPN? And if you think that you can tackle this guy just remember that Tonio Fenech is still reeling from the thumping which he got from Konrad.
M Micallef
Jan 15th, 16:53
M Grima, Im sure he was referring to Konrad's overused phrase "shame on you"
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 15th, 15:40
@ Mario Ellul
The project is indeed possible BUT MUCH MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE said Miles A Seaman, meaning that the dream of lower (Water) / Electricity tariffs is more impossible to achieve.
Do not forget the most important thing, the LABOUR PARTY ELECTORAL PROMISE is not to built a new power station but to lower the Electricity tariffs by 25%.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 15th, 15:37
Xi manuvra ta Austin Gatt din minn wara l-kwinti? Tghid qabel iffirma l-kuntratt mal BWSC ikkonsulta ma dan l-espert u ohrajn? Ma nahsibx.
George Cassar
Jan 15th, 15:37
I just saw this conference and Mr. Seaman clearly said that "it is comparatively unusual" to have fires or explosions in these types of installations.
So why are people below saying otherwise? Or is I heard a different press conference?
J Scicluna
Jan 15th, 15:37
Mela l-ewwel qalulna li l-PL u Joseph Muscat ma ghandhom xejn x'joffru u isa ghax urewhom x'tassew ghandhom x'joffru qed idahhlu l-bsaten fir-roti!!!!
Kieku jien il-PL, nistieden lil dan l-expert u niddiskuti mieghu ukoll ha nara x'soluzzjonijiet ghandu...u l-PN ikollhom 'Backfire'!!
M Micallef
Jan 15th, 17:00
What's wrong behind questioning such a big idea? PL has offered this "solution" which needs to be evaluated and understood by the people. PL has not even published its "studies" so how can they set up such a discussion with an expert? You have raised a good question, why doesn't PL bring over its experts and publish its studies and give us the answers, rather than just a presentation?
Edgar Gambin
Jan 15th, 20:39
Il PL m'ghandux ghalfejn jistieden l-esperti. Kull ma jrid jaghmel jippubblika l-istudji u forsi naraw min ikollu backfire.
Mr J Xerri
Jan 15th, 15:36
... and all this huffing and puffing on a proposal that somebody termed it as not worth the paper it is written upon.
Joseph Gerardi
Jan 15th, 15:36
The man seems to have two first degrees. Would probably not even be shortlisted to teach at most sixth forms in Malta.
Joe Borg (Senior)
Jan 15th, 15:36
Kemm seww biex gie fdan l-espert. Nispera li ma halsietx l-Enemalta reget!!
anton murcia
Jan 15th, 15:32
Even if the gas-firing gimmick of the Labour party were certain to bring the country lower to its knees, those who feel un-favoured will still want to discard the PN government by their vote, thus ushering in a Labour regime with little, if any, economic growth. Everyone will have to trudge along then under a new, dry political season with old Labour ministers embracing old fancies and agendas.
marius mifsud
Jan 15th, 15:31
yeah right! an enemalta paid expert is an independent expert! even so he did not rule out the feasability of the pl plan. tonio fenech has one again confirm his low level esteen of local exports. Prof Vella (expert on chemical issues) has ruled out any abnormal risk of danger, mr ellul vincenti has ruled out fenech's claim that the tanks cannot be built on reclamed land, lino spiteri and others...
Joe Borg (Senior)
Jan 15th, 15:31
fuw liema studji qed jibaza l-opinjoni tieghu dan l-espert?
Matt Ellul
Jan 15th, 15:30
Ala anna nemnu lil partit tijak tonio? afdajnik fil passat u amilt romblu minn fuqna. kullhadd jaf. kif tridna nergaw nafdaw lilek ? u ala din l insistenza kolla sabiex twaqqa l pjan tal labour party? mhux ahjar li kiku tohrog bi proposta ahjar minnha u tajdilna kif, meta u bkemm ha trahhas d dawl u l ilma? sour grapes.
Kenneth Williams
Jan 15th, 15:28
Mr Seaman say it all.....
Mr Seaman said he had no personal experience of fire and explosions in LNG terminals and such cases were unusual. He acknowledged that a gas solution was better, from an environmental point of view, than using oil because there were no carbon emissions and machines could be more efficient......
By any chance is/was Mr Seaman is a consutant with Enemalta??????
Joe Sammut
Jan 15th, 15:25
Ovvjament Konrad Mizzi jifhem iktar minn dan l-espert tal-gass li gabu n-Nazzjonalisti.
A Cachia
Jan 15th, 15:51
Mhux espert tal-gass imma espert tas-sigurta. Skuzani ikkoregejtek.
Saviour Aquilina
Jan 15th, 15:24
Konrad Mizzi, must hide some where where no one can find him.
christopher grech
Jan 15th, 15:24
a nationalist candidate has just left my home, the third one today, They are doing their home visits. I have told them all that this strategy of our party's must stop immediately as regards the energy. we are trying to critisice the mlp plan with every means which includes infrastructure, finance, time frame and so on. for the first time our campaign is on the defensive.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 19:35
Christopher - if you believe in lejber plan for energy feel free to vote for them! That said, PN is oblige to open your and everyone else eyes so that if the Maltese people opt to fall to the tricks of lejber yet another time, then, and only then, those who felled for such tricks would have no one else to blame then themselves ...
George Azzopardi
Jan 15th, 15:23
See this example recently built 2,000 MWe natural gas-fired power station which has 5 x 400 MWe generation units. Cost is 960 million euros (800 million sterling). Note that this power station has a capacity of 10 times that to be made in Malta.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembroke_Power_Station
I wonder why this expert did not raise concerns in his own country!
A Cachia
Jan 15th, 15:20
Igifiri hallasna konsulent biex min GIMMICK issa giet possibli?
Nghid jiena qabel ma ghamilna power station tahdem bil-Heavy Fuel Oil ma stajnix gibna lil dan l-espert qabel?
Prosit qed naqtghu figura ma l-Ewropa b'dawn il-kummiedji!
Joseph Borg
Jan 15th, 15:17
Who is this guy? I could only find a linkedin profile! Rather unusual for an 'expert' of this sort. GonziPN are just paying everyone to say what they want... and expect us to believe! 5 years of GonziPN lies are enough!
Paul Borg
Jan 15th, 15:17
gas pipeline will take 10 years to build minimum. Confirmed by very reliable maritime sources and subject to EU funding.
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 16:05
The Italians built the ~400km Greenstream from Tripoli to Gela in 18 months + 6 months for commissioning. The trajectory on the seabed, perticulrly in the initial 180km, is much more difficult than the Malta-Gela case. So why should it take 10 years to build?
C. Borg
Jan 15th, 15:16
X' panic ghandu s-Sur Tonin u l-klikka!!! Miskin, kif intilef jipprova jkisser il-proposta tal-PL. Min kollox qed jippruvaw. Hello.... fejnom il proposti taghkom??? Wake up, wake up....
R. Balzan
Jan 15th, 15:14
After the sham, manipulated KPMG presentation of yesterday, we now have an expert brought over from the UK by the Nationalist Party. They forget to tell us that the expert who was consulted by the PL is the same one used previously by the Nationalist government. More sour grapes.
D Mifsud
Jan 15th, 15:13
How about hearing some good proposals from PN instead of lambasting others' proposals. Please PN promise us some nice things like you did before the last election. Not that I am expecting that any of PN's promises are kept
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 15th, 19:42
They did. PN has nothing against a gas powered station. The question is how to get the gas here. PL is proposing to do this by tankers. PN wants to do this with a pipeline. Politics aside; which from the two solutions sounds best to you, less dangerous, and environment friendly (tankers pollute as well)?
p.s. PN delivered over 90% of promises made in the last election.
Kenneth Williams
Jan 15th, 15:11
Still, tanks were built close to power stations, notably in Japan.
'Clearly, he said, there was 'a very clear win' of pipelines over gas terminals, although that did not mean that terminals could not be built safely.'
'To say just two years was very ambitious indeed, he said, although one could never say anything was impossible.'
Another soap bubble from our taxes Tonio?
John Bonello
Jan 15th, 15:09
I wonder why all this fuss about a press conference. After all the PN is trying to give as much information as possible so that we can make an informed decision during the next election. The PL is just telling us that their plan is doable and that's it.....so we now have KPMG, and this UK expert against Konrad Mizzi which is not an expert in energy but an expert in IT...its up to the floaters now!
M Grima
Jan 15th, 15:54
It amazes me that you have failed to detect one glaring difference. While Labour's plan took 3 years to prepare those of Tonio Fenech took a mere 24 hours (KPMG's report and the Miles opinion).
Got it!!!!!
A. Agius
Jan 15th, 15:09
Is this the same Seaman? http://www.thecnj.com/camden/2008/070308/news070308_12.html
If yes can he give us some expert advice about Arriva as well whilst here!!! Must be an expert in a lot of things :)
Justin Tabone
Jan 15th, 15:08
The less you talk the better. Every day is resulting into a disaster for PN.
Ian Ellul
Jan 15th, 15:06
It's telling that while the PN brought nothing new to the table, they've concentrated their campaign 100% on Labour's proposals.
The fact they've spent their total energies on Labour's energy plan tells me they see in this plan a political threat to them, i.e. the plan is a good one.
Moreover, could the PN explain why public Enemalta finances have been used to finance its campaign against Labour
E. Xuereb
Jan 15th, 15:06
For those questioning Dr.Konrad Mizzi's credentials; http://www.pcubed.com/industries/energy/
It seems that he's an EMEA Partner, Energy, Utilities & Clean Tech. So, yes he is an expert in the field and we should be proud that a Maltese is involved in the management of such companies. Moreover, this particular UK environmental and safety expert, confirmed that this is in fact doable.
Justin Tabone
Jan 15th, 15:03
We will not believe you anymore Tonio, and whoever expert you bring around.
A. Agius
Jan 15th, 15:03
a "UK gas and energy expert"? Can we have more details about his credentials please? I found a Miles Seaman on linked in ( http://www.linkedin.com/pub/miles-seaman/7/379/915) but he is no gas and energy expert: he is an Independent Environmental Services Professional (if it's the same one) endorsed more for risk assessment rather than energy
M Grima
Jan 15th, 15:02
Don't you dare say that GonziPN is in PANIC mode!
Ticcajta!!!!!!
M Grima
Jan 15th, 15:01
Rumour has it that this English guy, Mr Seaman, was found from the yellow pages.
GonziPN - What a farce!!!
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 15:01
PT2. This will raise serious doubts on the MLP plans and if JM wants to save face he should publish the report and the studies the MLP consultants carried out. I think they owe it to the same people they are asking to vote them in power & delaying this it will only come back to haunt them in the coming weeks which by then it might be too late for them.
C Falzon
Jan 15th, 15:01
It is doable Mr Tonio Fenech. Can you get it??? It is doable. Well done PL. Keep up your good work.
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 15:01
PT1.Miles A Seaman is an expert on this subject, he would not tarnish his reputation to save Gonzi or the PN face, what he said are indeed facts, for the size of our island we don’t need this plant, the pipe line and the interconnector alone would be sufficient to supply us with clean energy. The PN are not against the use of LNG but on the method which the MLP is proposing.
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 16:09
If Seaman is an expert, can he please answer the question I asked about the direction of gas travel in the case of a leak of liquid from an LNG tank? It's just about O-level standard.
PHILIP RIZZO
Jan 15th, 15:00
Our accountant Minister for Energy is stamping his feet saying " If I didn't do it...you cannot ".
Many of us equally qualified [ or, more correctly unqualified ] suspect that before he has the time to watch Arsenal knocked out of three successive Champions' Leagues [ perhaps by then he will be travelling economy class ], the PL's native, but competent, energy expert will have proved him wrong!
A Abela
Jan 15th, 14:58
Convinced no one. Next please Mr fenech
victor ellul
Jan 15th, 14:56
jekk kien konsulent ta l.enemalta .allura hu complici tal falliment li tinsab fhiha l.enemalta!
J Farrugia
Jan 15th, 14:54
''although that did not mean that terminals could not be built safely.''
So where's the issue???? PN instead of nitpicking can we have some concrete plans in black and white, which if you don't impiliment you get booted out ??? come one if you got the guts to do that??
Gordon Grech
Jan 15th, 14:53
Can we have information who is this person? Such as qualifications? Otherwise can I make a presentation?
A Abela
Jan 15th, 14:53
What a pantomime. Ara ssibx i haga ahjar Mr Fenech.
M Grima
Jan 15th, 14:51
These type of maneuvers were expected from GonziPN but now they have exceeded all levels of incompetency, panic, damage limitation and irresponsible logic. Even hard core nationalists, especially those who do not form part of the selected few are disgusted with the way the PN has handled the energy issues which have plagued this country. Even they are realising that the PN's actions are gimmicks.
Joseph Borg
Jan 15th, 14:51
Seaman is not a few face for Malta. He is a consultant for Enemalta since 2002. Now it is up to you to decide his credibility.
pat muscat
Jan 15th, 14:48
GonziPn is now really scraping the barrel. For twenty five years GonziPn never consulted anyone not even its own deputies about our energy procurement: every thing was confidential, data privacy and what what not: as this week we've been having one expert a day to prop up Tonio Fenech's desired answers! Tonio Fenech should either sue Edward Mallia or resign!
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 16:12
Watch it Mr. Muscat. I could do with not having Tonio Fenech on my back going by the latest evidence of weight gain!
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 15th, 14:48
@ Mario Ellul
The project is indeed possible BUT MUCH MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE said Miles A Seaman, meaning that the dream of lower (Water) / Electricity tariffs is more impossible to achieve.
Do not forget the most important thing, the LABOUR PARTY ELECTORAL PROMISE is not to built a new power station but to lower the Electricity tariffs by 25%.
M Grima
Jan 15th, 14:47
Tonio Fenech is unbelievable and downright pathetic. Does he really think than the report prepared by KPMG (initiated and finalised in just one day) and this English guy's view are of any value. Labour took three years to come up with a report which the majority have hailed as doable, including members of their own party ,an ex Enemalta Chairman, MHRA, MEA and a host of other independent bodies.
James Abela
Jan 15th, 15:42
Three years??? They should have come up with something better than that in three years.
Joseph Bajada
Jan 15th, 14:46
the more you try to torpedo the PL's proposal, the more I am convinced that there is no alternative to the PL. Come elections and the PN must make space and move to the opposition benches.
They are wasting their energy bombarding a sound energy road map, when they don't even have one for themselves.
Utter rubbish, that is what this party is....
twanny borg
Jan 15th, 14:46
il-pn qed jitkaxkar f'din il-kampanja fuq pjan fallut tal-pl li fuq il-karti jidher sabih bil-weghdi ta' trahhis meta fil-prattika mhux tajjeb. il-pn irid ifakkar lil poplu fil-passat tal-pl ghax huwa l-mera tal-futur u jrid ifakkar fix-xogholijiet u affarijiet ohra li ghamel il-pn fil-gvern.
Daniel Borg
Jan 15th, 15:48
Allura skond int il laburisti jergaw jindifnu fil mizbla jekk il passat mera.tal futur?.u jergaw jiehdu 500 extra fil.gima.u jola.d.dejn ta.malta wkoll, u jolew BIL QALB.il kontijiet tad dawl u lilma
Abe Sammut
Jan 15th, 14:46
ejja tonio fenech tina tieghek kif , kemm , meta u il presentations please ta l interconnector u tal pipeline tal gas
R Camilleri
Jan 15th, 14:43
At least Mr Seaman did not mention a "Bomba f'Marsaxlokk"...
Lawrence Fenech
Jan 15th, 14:42
Tonio mortu tilghaqu il-warrani ta' xi barrani iehor,bhal tal-Arriva u id-kisastru tal-belt u Air Malta, hadd mhu ser jemminkom ghax il-gideb ghomru qasir.
A M Bonello
Jan 15th, 14:41
Mr Seaman?
"never erd of im"
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 14:41
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/miles-seaman/7/379/915
M Grima
Jan 15th, 14:40
Tonio Fenech is clutching at the proverbial straw. First he said the PL's plan was 'Alice in Wonderland' . Then he said that Labour's plan would raise the electricity tariffs, then he commissioned KPMG to draw a report which was concluded in 24 hours and now he brought over this English mercenary to give us his side of the story.
Is GonziPN for real and do they think we are that gullible?
James Abela
Jan 15th, 15:45
Do you think that the rest of the country of gullible enough to believe Muscat's plan? A plan that they refuse to make public with no transperancy. Listen to what others say and then decide. Don't be colour blind.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 15th, 14:39
How can I believe and trust GonziPN + Tonio Fenech, along with their elves in PN? They spent a whole 5 year period fooling us and telling us lies. Five years of undelivered promises. Five years of trying to make fun of all those who come up with positive proposals. I'm sorry Gonzi + Tonio, darba tidhaq bijja, izda mhux it-tieni darba. Tista ccempluli kemm tridu ghaliex jien PL se nivvota.
Simon Farrugia
Jan 15th, 14:39
What about presenting the people with your proposal instead of trying to destroy that of PL.
How about stating clearly the real intentions of the PN 's apparent shift from gas to HFO.
How about naming all those involved who pocketed that handsome commission.
How about getting into the public those who desparately wanted to give us an HFO power station and are now safely in their hidout.
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 21:42
Simon its very simple, the EU directives means that the Marsa power station must be closed by the 2015, the government had to look for other options and obviously HFO is far more cheaper solution until the gas pipe line is finished . also note that the same proposal the MLP is proposing was in front of the government the reason he opted to HFO is because the other is not feasible
matthew tanti
Jan 15th, 14:39
this is all useless. the majority of the people only care about having their bills reduced, which the PL will do even if it means bankrupting the country.
Andre Briffa
Jan 15th, 14:37
Failure of a proposal. Next please.
M Briffa
Jan 15th, 15:23
next PN proposal you mean???
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 15th, 14:37
F'din l-ahhar gimgha, ir-rapport ta' Konrad Mizzi gie mbiccier, u ma ghadu jiswa xejn.
~ GENJU MALTI ~
Jan 15th, 14:55
hahahaa.... Like it or not Dr. Konrad Mizzi will be th Minister for Energy in less than to 2 months time.
Joseph Borg
Jan 15th, 14:57
sur vassallo
ara vera qedin f'panic mode tal PN ta, kollox ta malajr bix jiprova jiskredita rapport mahdum bl ikbar serjeta.
u l vera andna poplu injorant, kuntent jibqa jhallas iktar u b'arja iktar nadifa.
jien nisfidak li tigi toqod fin nofs inhar ta malta u ibqa tkellem hekk
nisfidak tinzel toqod bormla u tara l pastazata ta 'progeet' u tibqa titkellem hekk
Justin Tabone
Jan 15th, 15:04
You watch too much of Net TV !!
R. Balzan
Jan 15th, 15:11
Wishful thinking Angelo. The proposal is gaining support by the minute - despite all the doomsday, idiotic statements of some ex-Ministers and a number of PN frustrated apologists.
Antoine Vella
Jan 15th, 15:13
Għalhekk il-Labour ma riedx joħroġ il-proposta tiegħu qabel u għalhekk beda jinsisti li l-kampanja elettorali tkun qasira kemm jista jkun.
Tal-Labour ma ridux jagħtu ċans lill-poplu jkollu t-tagħrif meħtieġ biex jagħmel għażla infurmata.
M Briffa
Jan 15th, 15:16
issa tkun taf x jiswa r-rapport ta' Konrad Mizzi sur vassallo...ma jiswa xejn il-paroli li qed jivvinta tonio fenech u l-partit tieghek biex minghalikhom twaqqghu ghaz-zufjett progett li jekk xejn zgur ha jservi sabiex nghalqu l-fabbrika tal-kancer darba ghal dejjem...min ma jilhaqx l-gheneb jghid li hu qares sur vassallo : )
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 15:27
Minn kienu l-bicciera? Tonio Fenech, KPMG li qaghdu fuq Tonio Fenech u l-Enemalta ghal rapport miktub f'saghtejn?; Is-Sur Seaman hadd ma jaf minn fejn sabuh?
Albert Scicluna
Jan 15th, 15:47
issa ghadna nistennaw il proposti ta gonzipn
Joseph Vella
Jan 15th, 14:37
It seems that Miles Seaman is a safety and risk assessor for major hazards and not an energy expert.
W. Cassar
Jan 15th, 14:48
Exactly ...I wonder how much they paid him?
It does not make a difference to be honest, its about time the PN start giving us their proposals as Im sick and tired of their one worded negative feedback.
Antonio Pace
Jan 15th, 15:06
Grow up.....would you store a gas in your bedroom. That's how safe it is to have gas stored next to the power station and residential areas.
Antoine Vella
Jan 15th, 15:11
Miles Seaman is an expert on safety and risks and spoke only about safety and risks.
He said that, for health and safety reasons alone, the PL proposal would take at least 5 years, possibly more.
Incidentally, Konrad Mizzi holds degrees in management and marketing so how did he became an "expert' on energy?
M Micallef
Jan 15th, 15:13
they both compliment each other Mr.Vella
Carmel Borg
Jan 15th, 15:35
...and you are more expert in the field than him...
M Grima
Jan 15th, 15:50
@Carmel Borg
At least he is not a mercenary or a 'Jack of all Trades'. Look up this guy's CV and you would come to my own conclusions. But, what is more bizarre is the minister's panic behavior to discredit what was prepared in 3 years in a couple of days.
Andrew Siad
Jan 15th, 15:54
@Antonio Pace
grow up antonio where do you keep your gas cylinder at HOME! it could not be in your bedroom but it surly is nearby
Mario Ellul
Jan 15th, 14:36
'Clearly, he said, there was 'a very clear win' of pipelines over gas terminals, although that did not mean that terminals could not be built safely.'
'To say just two years was very ambitious indeed, he said, although one could never say anything was impossible.'
The above is self explanatory. The project is indeed possible.
Peter Zahra
Jan 15th, 15:00
Of course the project is possible, however the point is at what cost and can it be done within the period indicated by Labour party ?? It is simple to conclude that the budget costs are going to be much higher & to make matters worse it will take at least 5yrs to complete and consequently incurring milllions in debt which Malta does not really need !!!
Richard Ellul
Jan 15th, 15:03
One needs to read between the lines in politics. People need to watch British comedies such as "Yes Minister" & "Yes Prime Minister".
Carmel Borg
Jan 15th, 15:41
Mario, do you know the difference between possible, probable and more importantly sustainable?
I honsetly hope that if labour is elected, it proves me wrong as after all I don't want my family to suffer for the sake of saying "I told you so", but most indicators are screaming failure.
Joe Sammut
Jan 15th, 14:35
I watched the LIVE televised press conference where Mr Seaman called a spade a spade , away from political interests.He was objective and factual and could not be cornered by the journalists.
Unlike MLP Candidate Konrad Mizzi, he’s an expert in this field .
At the MLP Electoral Program writers: “Go back to the drawing board on this one , it was a good try but is not workable/feasable.
M Grima
Jan 15th, 15:00
Of course every Nationalist and every mercenary they have commissioned in this last week to discredit the PL's energy plans are objective, factual and call a spade a spade. On the contrary, Labour spokesmen, especially Dr. Mizzi, are incompetents on the subject matter.
This is characteristic of GonziPN who think they are always right and everyone else is wrong. Hypocrites and downright arrogant
Anthony Portelli
Jan 15th, 14:35
probabbli li jkun "persona non Grata" jekk Pl jirbhu l-elezzjoni.
Eq, sorry, qedin fl-EU!
Victor Laiviera
Jan 15th, 14:35
That sound you can hear is not another hailstorm - it's only the sound of barrel-bottoms being scraped.
D Caruana
Jan 15th, 14:35
in my opinion the PN is trying to oppose the project. The PN argue that the building of a gas terminal is not feasable. The Uk expert obviously was payed and hired by the PN to critisize this big project. The only fact is that this expert was in favoure of having a Power station that uses Gas. Uk expert knows ,Gas is best, hence, why the PN in gorverment chose Heavy Fuel Oil?. Expert any comments?
Mark Spiteri
Jan 15th, 14:45
you really don't want to listen..this has been explained a million times this week.
Antonio Pace
Jan 15th, 15:12
Heavy Fuel Oil is being used until a gas pipeline supported by EU funds is installed. In fact MLP's own consultants said that Government's option is cheaper than MLP's option. I'm sure you missed this.
D Mifsud
Jan 15th, 15:22
simple D Caruana. The PN government has been sleeping in the last years and did nothing because it was not expecting to win the last election and that would have left it on a Labour government to tackle energy issues which were more than due. Now when the PN won the election, it slept for another 2.5 yrs, then had to rush to find a contractor from the yellow pages to build something asap.
Michael Grech
Jan 15th, 15:39
And you think that an expert who is probably payed an incredibly good salary is going to risk ruining his reputation for a one of sum for the PN.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 15th, 14:34
A UK gas and energy expert to give his views on Labour's energy proposals
A LOT > BLA >BLA > BLA and then he said one could never say anything was impossible.
so Tonio Fenech ,you did not proved NOTHING < JUST SMOKE IN THE AIR >> HA HA HI
carlos ellul
Jan 15th, 14:34
Mr Fenech's daily apocalyptic reviews are getting hilarious by the day. Has he had the decency to at least feed Mr Seaman the correct information?
joseph mifsud
Jan 15th, 14:33
dan mr seaman mhuwiex wigg gdid ghall enemalta ghax ilu konsulent mi 2002.u nafu kif ini l enemalta fallutta totalment..
Jason Zammit
Jan 15th, 14:33
Conrad Mizzi fxi Play station jifem mux Power Station
gianni Zammit
Jan 15th, 14:47
u tonio fenech id delettant fid dejn li halla lil pajjiz jifem. thanks pn gibtulna bnidem li ikonfermalna li tista issehh il power station. ha nivvota lewwel darba lil pl.
R Casha
Jan 15th, 14:47
you need to have some level of IQ to understand all Konrad says....but if you don't understand it does not mean that he does not know what he is saying....he really knows the subject, very well indeed!!
Joseph Borg
Jan 15th, 15:19
Daqs kemm jifhem Austin fit-transport?
Matt Ellul
Jan 15th, 14:33
Please Tonio, stop this. You are losing more and more votes.
Mr B Busuttil
Jan 15th, 14:33
kemm qeghdin hazin!! billboards ta 5 snien ilu... 'finanzi fis sodd' + bla ideat ta xejn...
Randolph Peresso
Jan 15th, 14:31
What seemed to be a professionaly studied plan is turning out to be a shallow, half-backed plan done either by amateurs, or in haste, or both.
gianni Zammit
Jan 15th, 14:55
Dr Joseph muscat qatt ma qall li ma jahdimx bil pipeline ghax il piplene iddum hames jew sitt snin biex issir irid jaghmel power station tal-gass ghax f'sentejn jaghmilla u irrahhas il kontijiet il power station li jaghmel Gonzi qed taghmel hafna hsara lin -nies u gholla il,-kontijiet.
J Grima
Jan 15th, 15:02
Mr. Peresso, you're good with words but you're reading skills stink! Looks like the article's being read by amateurs, or in haster, or both :)
Andrew Siad
Jan 15th, 15:59
"professionaly studied plan is turning out to be a shallow, half-backed plan done either by amateurs, or in haste, or both." kien ir rapport tal KPMG li hareg f gurnata
matthew tanti
Jan 15th, 14:27
mela d-dinja kollha tahdem bil-pipelines, u ahna se nivvintaw sistema differenti li ma tinkludix il-pipeline, meta din hi s-sistema li tixtieq l-UE. Storja simili ghal tac-CET meta ghamilniha tal-bravi u ppruvajna noholqu sistema differenti min dik li kien ilha tahdem fuqha 'l bqija tad-dinja. jidher kemm joey muscat hu l-eredi ta' fredu sant
Mr Leon Zawadzki
Jan 15th, 14:27
Two question need to be answered before coming to any kind of collusion. What and with who were these "extensive experience" garnered with ? and most important how much was Mr Miles A Seaman paid for expressing his views ?
Answers please.
Lawrence Zammit
Jan 15th, 15:39
Mr Zawadzki do you intend to make a financial contribution ?
J Chircop
Jan 15th, 14:26
Ghada il- ufficju meterjologiku ha jippublika studju imhallas mit taxxi tal poplu biex igiddeb l- harba tas silg li ghamlet illum. Dal- maltemp kollu Gimmicks. Umbad ha jigi espert tat temp mill- BBC biex jghidilna li ghada nistu immorru nghumu
Andrew Grech
Jan 15th, 14:55
X'ghandu x'jaqsam!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peter Murray
Jan 15th, 14:25
Here we go -dragging out all the usual suspects to denigrate Labour's Plan.Firts e have the KMPG reprort and now this "expert" testimony ,which simply reinforces the perception of the definition of an expert as being someone who knows more and more ..about less and less!
David Smith
Jan 15th, 14:41
Seems like that fits you altogether seeing your frequent comments online.
Joe Abela
Jan 15th, 14:51
maybe PN OR PL should have asked you because you are an expert on everything because you always enlight us with all your expertism in all issues.
Jesmond Chetcuti
Jan 15th, 14:25
for me this expert is confirming that it is doable...not easy but doable...surprusingly even aknowledging that can be done in 2 years ,goes against the PN talking..
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 15th, 14:50
Ha Ha Ha Ha. From a straight forward 2 year thing to a not easy but doable in a week!
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 15:24
smajtu jitkellem? fejn qal li se ssir f'sentejn? L-ewwel nett il_PL qal li se ssir f'sena u nofs - minn Marzu jekk jigi elett sat-2015 u t-tieni nett l-espert qal li trid sena studju ta' sigurta, sena mill-inqas ghal tender u 3-5 snin ghall-bini tal-powerstation
Charles J. Buttigieg
Jan 15th, 14:23
Instead of quoting Mr. Seaman the PN should suggest a one to one confrontation between Seaman and Konrad Mizzi on our State TV.
Randolph Peresso
Jan 15th, 14:29
By this you seem to imply they both hold the same degree of expertise, right?
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 15th, 14:33
You mean like the one refused by KEMA on Xarabank?
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 14:40
PT1 .NO Charles enough with one to one confrontations, we need fact before we cast our vote so it’s for the best of our nation that the MLP should publish its reports and studies it conducted rather than play with words. The fact alone that it is hiding away from the public and making pathetic excuses arouses suspicion that there is something else which they are refraining from telling us.
Eric Bonello
Jan 15th, 14:43
PT2. Do you not want to know if the design will pose a risk to the environment or the people living in the vicinity? If the estimated costs reflect the true cost? if the plant was underestimated ???, if the Power plant is feasible or we wait for the pipeline ?? Do you want to know the capital cost/kwh for operating this plant??? So many questions beign unanswered by the MLP
Antoine Vella
Jan 15th, 14:46
Miles Seaman is an expert on safety issues in power plants. Konrad Mizzi is an 'expert' in marketing and management (judging from his academic titles).
Contrary to what the PL has been implying, Konrad Mizzi is NOT an engineer or a specialist on power stations and installations.
Antonio Pace
Jan 15th, 15:14
Why not have Seaman and Kema debate this...oops sorry I forgot that Kema also said that Government's option of a gas pipeline will result in cheaper production costs than what the MLP
is suggesting....
francis Buhagiar
Jan 15th, 14:23
If this guy is that good you should have asked him to draft a plan for the PN so that you could the water and electricity tariffs. One thing I would like to know from this guy. How come that in his country water and electricity bills are cheaper than in Malta?
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 14:47
X'ghandu x'jaqsam espert tas-SIGURTA' mad-dawl u l-ilma?
Richard Ellul
Jan 15th, 15:14
North Sea oil & gas
Joseph Micallef
Jan 15th, 14:21
PN is doing things which never did in 25 years... the problem is that I can't believe them. They are so, but so untrustworthy. The aim of the PN is not to lower our tariffs and provide us with cleaner air BUT to destroy Partit Laburista. I will not accept that so I will strongly vote for Partit Laburista.
David Azzopardi
Jan 15th, 14:39
'But to destroy Partit Laburista'....last time i heard those words, were from the PL candidate Edwin Vassallo...but it was the other way round...
M Mercieca
Jan 15th, 14:39
Very well said.PN cannot be trusted anymore. They have been double crossing this country for too long now. PL is the way forward. No questions asked!
Antoine Vella
Jan 15th, 14:50
Mr Micallef, instead of attacking the PN, why don't you read and reflect on what technical consultants,nclude the ones engaged by the PL, have been saying?
These experts said that the pipeline will be cheaper and now we have a safety expert who did not go into the economic issues but said that, not only is a pipeline safer but the regasification plan needs some 5 years to start functioning.
B Testa
Jan 15th, 14:19
Normally experts do not express themselves unless they have time to analyse everything. This one was not briefed on the gas and fuel tanks at Oil Tanking facility in Birzebbuga. The government never mentioned any hazards with volatile fuels such as those stored at Oil Tanking. But for PL proposal it is different. Two weights two measures Mr Fenech, it seems you have much too loose....
M. Spiteri
Jan 15th, 14:18
the expert said as well (I watched the press conference) that he is an expert on Safety measures, and economics is not his area of expertise.
So anything on the costings, time frames etc are just not this man's expertise
Ok, PN, let's try another one
Antoine Vella
Jan 15th, 15:07
M.Spiteri, the expert spoke on safety measures and said that, from a safety point of view, it is unthinkable that the PL proposal can be carried out within two years as Labour is promising.
Read the Times report: 2-3 years just to build the power station AFTER permits have been issued. The permits would require a minimum of 2 years.
If you don't think this sinks the whole project . ..
Neil Dent
Jan 15th, 14:17
.....which we expect to be swiftly followed by a press conf from Konrad Mizzi to once again debunk the PN argument.
Mr Mark Borh
Jan 15th, 14:17
I would suggest that the PL discuss with this expert as well as the PL's experts so that any critical issues can be outlined fixed, and then re-evaluated.
Alex Falzon
Jan 15th, 14:16
It looks to me that for the past 25 years the P.N. in government has met the expectations for us Maltese and overall well-being of the country.. this is for the simple reason that the last two weeks both parties have gone head-to-head over which best policy applies our energy plan.
J Chircop
Jan 15th, 14:23
PN has no policy.
Robert Cassar
Jan 15th, 14:13
Fliemkien kollox possibly :) .. what a joke! ara biex il PL irid jaddi iz zmien. Where are the policies on education? job creating? EU? Health? ...I am still waiting
Glenn Curmi
Jan 15th, 14:40
Where does the PN stand?! No proposes what so ever!
Clive Clive
Jan 15th, 14:47
They will soon come out ... don't worry :)
Anton Attard
Jan 15th, 14:12
Thank you Dr. Gonzi for choosing BWSC - 'He acknowledged that a gas solution was better, from an environmental point of view, than using oil because there were no carbon emissions and machines could be more efficient.' Shame on you Gonzipn
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 15:19
What sort of an "expert" is Mr. Seaman if he is prepared to say that there are no "carbon emissions" from gas? Natural gas emits water and CO2 on burning. Being a simple molecule it emits less CO2 per unit of energy it gives than gasoil or HFO, somewhere between 70% and 75%. But not nothing. The best BWSC machine type eff. is 50%; the best gas turbines woring with gas not gasoil reach 65%.
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 14:12
This farce reminds me of the situation in England aound 1530, when Henry VIII was trying to get rid of Queen Catherine. His friends and those of Catherine were hiring poor Jewish rabbis to spend time in University libraries poring over biblical texts to locate the Old Testament ruling on the position of a deceased elder brother's widow which suited their case.
Manwel Sinagra
Jan 15th, 14:49
Come on Edward. You are not that old surely? :). However, you are right. This is nothing but a farce.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jan 15th, 15:40
I agree that it is just farcical to persist trying to score points through nitpicking. The electorate has clearly by now decided for a gas fuelled energy policy, understands that HFO constitutes a hazard for the environment and health and perhaps a majority recognizes that we owe this stage to a bold PL initiative . Now it is just detail of options and choices . Time for other electoral issues.
Victor Zammit
Jan 15th, 15:47
Yes Prof. Mallia, and Henry VIII persisted in doing it his way against accepted practice and got a new wife. Who said history repeats itself?
leli farrugia
Jan 15th, 14:11
aktar ma nara u nisma il partit nazjonalista jinsisti biex jiprova ifhem li pjan tal partit laburista mhux tajjeb aktar qed nikonvinci ruhi li dak il pjan huwa tajjeb , mhux ahjar tghidulna il pjan tghakom sur tonio fenech kif se jkun milli qed tinhlew fuq il pjan tal labour
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 15th, 14:10
Give a monkey peanuts and it will do as you say. Come on, this is gettng ridiculous. hasn't the PN anything else to say? Watch PBS news tonight -this guy will be first item and yo won;t get any psotive comments about the LP energy proposal. Its getting all rather boring now.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 15th, 15:22
Clutchingatstrawites! That's what's wrong with you
Terence Zammit
Jan 15th, 14:10
first thing that comes into mind is ... will this british expert hired from PN tell us things in favour of the PL energy proposal ... I don't think so !! second, can it be more clear that the PN does not care about energy plans but wants only to win an electoral point, they are doing a press conference daily to try and convince the electorate but they won't because the Maltese are not stupid!!!!
A Cachia
Jan 15th, 14:09
Prosit. Now can we move on please?
Eve Axiaq
Jan 15th, 14:09
Sur Tonio Fenech mela vapuri mjux tlieta biss hemm kif ghidt int?
C Muscat
Jan 15th, 14:09
PN tibqghax tipprova iddahhaq in-nies. Il-gass hu ferm ahjar minn BWSC. Jekk ghandkom sens komun u tatu kas is-sahha tan-nies ieqfu kissru l-options offruti.
Jekk xejn ghidulna x qed toffru.
Kenneth Williams
Jan 15th, 14:08
Mhux ovvja li l Ministru mhux se joqghod fuq cuc malti bhal Konrad.....ma tarax x jghid l ingliz jghodd ghalkemm jidher li ilu bil pensjoni dan ir ragel !!!
Wenzu Cole
Jan 15th, 14:07
Another press conference from Tonio Fenech about a the PL proposal. And then he says they are not panicing.
D Axisa
Jan 15th, 14:03
For me this is nothing new, as Mr. Seaman said that nothing is impossible to do. The PN is turning every page to come out with something, but cannot find anything substantial. He also explosions were unusual in these kind of terminals. Even timeline though it's ambitious nothing is impossible. This is anoth Down for the PN and Tonio fenech. Pack up or come out with something concretee.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 15th, 14:02
Tajba din. Kieku l-espert ma kienx se jaqbel maghhom ma kienux se jgibuh mhux hekk.
Qabdu lil KPMG mit-taxxi tal-poplu u Konrad irrnexxilu jisfuma l-argumenti taghhom ghax l-informazzjoni li tawhom kienet biased. Issa gabdu lil dan. Tghid xi manuvra ta RCC din?
Charlo Agius
Jan 15th, 14:00
Next up to Konrad Mizzi to answer these Panic stations.....and once again the very well-prepard Konrad will give all ANSWERS.
Wasting of time for Tonio Fenech!
Joseph Abela
Jan 15th, 13:59
Dan Tonio ser jiggennen! Qed igib nies minn kullimkien biex jikkonvicu lil poplu li il-pjan tal PL mhux fattibli. Tonio tmejjilt bizejjed bin nies f dawn l ahhar snin, tistaw iggibu lil min tridu! Sorry imma il poplu malti mwegga bil pastazati li ghamiltu. Dan ahna ukoll ha nhallsu ghalih lil dan il konsulent???
James Attard
Jan 15th, 13:58
Nixtieq onestament (u minghajr l-ebda satira u ironija) nistaqsi kemm jithallsu dawn il-konsulenti biex jitkellmu u jaghmlu 'feasibility study' kemm ghal PN u kemm ghal PL....Ghax bejnietna nithajjar insir konsulent fi zmien kampanja elettorali.
Jigifieri hemm xi PL jew PN 'public relations officer' jikkuntatjani jekk joghgbu. Jien nifthem ftit fl-ICT...
Grazzi bil-quddiem
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 13:58
One off the cuff comment- question: gas from the tanks would travel quickly across a km or more.
But in which direction, hrizontally or vertically? Any liquid NG will evaporate instantly on coming into contact with the eniroment outside tanks. As methane is light than air, it will go up and disperse.
2nd thought: Can we have Mr. Seaman's opinion on the LPG tanks at Benghisa?
Edward Mallia
Jan 15th, 15:12
@ Matthew Tanti
Who by Mr. Tanti? Can you answer the question about the direction of "gas travel" in case of escape of liquid? That still leaves the LPG tanks question.
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 15th, 15:39
the expert pn got is not so young eitherr
matthew tanti
Jan 15th, 15:51
you are the physics professor, you tell us. so this expert is talking rubbish according to you.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jan 15th, 16:56
This is the crux. LNG has an unenviable record of safety. A full containment double shell plus a boundary containment would be safer than any gas facility we ever had. Contrary to LPG LNG is not kept in pressurized tanks, is lighter than air so it disperses quickly, burns at a temp of over 1000 degrees and has a narrow flammibilty range.I wonder what were/are the safety features of the LPG plants
Darren Caruana
Jan 15th, 13:57
PN, Tonio Fenech, You have made your point many times over now;
Labour's proposal is not feasible.
I think its about time you stop trying to prove this and present your proposals for lower electricity tarrifs from 2014.
We are waiting. until then......................
Victor Laiviera
Jan 15th, 13:57
The old "my expert is better than your expert" game.
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 15th, 13:57
Minjaf kemm xorbilna dan biex giw jghidilna din il haga!! Gabuh fi zmien ftit sieghat....ara kemm kellu x'jaghmel!!! lol....Il-PN ghadu ma xebax bil-politika li jbezza biss??? Xi frustrazzjoni qed iqabdu lil kulhadd.
A Abela
Jan 15th, 14:56
Le volontier gie qal. Ghandu qalbu perzuta ghal Malta.
j brincat
Jan 15th, 13:55
The fact remains that the PL has promised to lower the exorbitant W & E bills and what the PL promises it would deliver as it has done in the past.
What is for sure is that GonziPN promises a lot BUT delivers very little.
Unfortunately the Maltese have come to know what GonziPN is all about!
jb
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 14:53
what the PL promises it would deliver as it has done in the past.
Bhal tal-VAT jigifieri?
daniel farrugia
Jan 15th, 13:55
tried to check on google who is this expert but failed to find any information .... can somebody please enlighten us who he is? another thing labour never said that it won't change to the gas pipeline when this will be made available thanks to the EU funds so please at least stop asking the same questions for which Dr. Konrad Mizzi already answered!
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 14:54
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/miles-seaman/7/379/915
Dandra Borgesco
Jan 15th, 13:54
I really hope this 'UK expert' is not this guy here with only a BSc qualification obtained in 1965:
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/miles-seaman/7/379/915
matthew tanti
Jan 15th, 14:36
expertise is not based only on qualifications, that is the starting point. after all, konrad's expertise is in IT, not engineering
David Smith
Jan 15th, 14:39
Seems like Mr Seaman has been working in the field since 1965. And what exactly are the PL candidate's qualifications, who is being touted by the PL as God's gift to mankind??????Sorry I rephrase that...God is Konrad Mizzi's gift to mankind.
Dandra Borgesco
Jan 15th, 14:59
The fact that he has decided to take this on his own and not backed by a company shows how much of an expert he is.
Andrew Grech
Jan 15th, 15:12
I think you might have missed this part;
' He founded this company with a few like minded partners specialising in major hazard safety on the process industries. over the 7 years he was on the board, latterly as Chairman it grew into a substantial international practice with bases in London, Scotland Norway and the US. He was responsible for acquiring many major projects and was project director '
N Chetcuti
Jan 15th, 19:24
@ Matthew Tanti. Intom kollha pappagalli tirrepetu it-tghajjir. Fittxu ha tkunu tafu l-kredenzjali ta' Konrad. Mela billi jghid Tonio, l-accountant li falla l-kunsill ta' Birkirkara.
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 15th, 13:52
Dan xi iehor li tawh 24hrs cans biex jara il-karti kollha?? Alla jbierek ezatt l-istess kliem li qal Tonio il-gimgha l-ohra u tal-KPMG il-bierah. Nahseb flok il figuri tawh il video tal-konferenzi ta Tonio lol. Min kollox qed jaghmlu biex jippruvaw jiskreditaw proposta tajba u li huma ma riedux jaghmlu avolja gew mghotija parir li ahjar LNG milli HFO....x'panic qed inxomm lol
Joseph Borg
Jan 15th, 13:51
Although it is not impossible - Flimkien kollox possibbli dear Mr Seaman. Thank you for condemning PNs choice in favour of using the Heavy Fuel Oil.
j brincat
Jan 15th, 13:51
GonzoPN still shell shocked and trying in vain to come up worth a scoop!
Their problem is that after the 101 vain promises made in 2008 their credibility has gone to the dogs!
jb
A.Felix Busuttil
Jan 15th, 13:49
Mr Fenech the GONZIPN track record is not to believe what ever they say. Do you think GONZIPN are capable to keep time frame and they are always overboard in their costing. No one is going to believe what ever you or your expert says. The Pl project is endorsed by the majority of the Maltese and other Maltese authorities. anyhow what is your plan?
Robert Camilleri
Jan 15th, 13:49
It would be better off that PN submit their proposals rather engaging an expert to give his views re PLs proposal. Who will be paying for this expert? PN or us the "cittadini" from our taxes. Anything is impossible -
Flimkien kollox possibli remember???
Andre Briffa
Jan 15th, 13:48
And so their great proposal keeps falling apart....Who did they honestly think they were fooling?!
j brincat
Jan 15th, 13:47
ANd can't they realise that these scaremongering tactics are winning them NO brownie points!
Guess Dr Konrad would within the hour prove them wrong again, as usual!
jb
R Casha
Jan 15th, 13:46
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/miles-seaman/7/379/915
vast experience?!
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 14:57
lee mela xini l-esperjenza ghalik? Kornad Mizzi l iggradwa mill-ICT??
Antoine Psaila
Jan 15th, 13:45
Miskin Toninu x'jithambaq u jipprova jikkonvincina, b'terzi persuni ghax jaf li lilu hadd m'ghadu jemmnu. Ahjar twiegeb ghal istatistika li regghet harget illum fuq il-qaghda allarmanti tal-finanzi u tnehhu dawk il-billboards taghkhom finanzi fis-sod li ilkhom tirriciklawhom mit-2003
MT Caruana
Jan 15th, 13:45
Last sentence says it all ...one could never say anything was impossible.
Emile Owen
Jan 15th, 13:45
What kind of expert is he???!!!! An environment expert, self appointed and looked every bit out of his depths in explaining and answering questions!! All we heard was eh, emm, ehh, emm, not my area........ehh, emm not in my field...............emm not my expertise. Another pathetic attempt by the PN to try discredit the PL plan!!
Martin Attard
Jan 15th, 13:44
by the way I go-ogled for Miles A Seaman and nothing popped up...
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 14:57
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/miles-seaman/7/379/915
Michiel Paetzel
Jan 15th, 16:00
Try again Martin....
I guess Minister Tonio Fenech should be careful who to ask to speak on behalf of the PN, it seems that this gentleman is on a crusade against bad bus service LOL
http://www.thecnj.com/camden/2008/070308/news070308_12.html
John Mifsud
Jan 15th, 13:44
Whilst speaking about safety, can Minister Fenech put our mind at rest and guarantee that all the foreign naval vessels that enter our ports and seas do not carry nuclear bombs and plants?
Bernard Mamo
Jan 15th, 13:43
But of course he did.
M. Spiteri
Jan 15th, 13:42
l espert ingliz qal darbtejn : 'I have no idea, you re way ahead of me' (lil lou bondi bdw lol) u 'i dont have the precise answer' fuq l issue tat 10 year contracts
expert indeed
Marco Galea
Jan 15th, 14:40
Ghax ESPERT FIS-SIGURTA u mhux fil-vapuri tal-gass
Please choose the reason of your report below: