Gonzi asks why Labour chose ships over pipeline, queries election funding
Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi this morning again asked where Labour is getting its electoral campaign funds from, saying it must have already spent €1m in the campaign.
He also continued to criticise Labour's energy plan and said it was a mystery how Labour had opted for a process - including the transportation of gas by ships - when other options such as a pipeline were cheaper.
"What interest does it have in having opted for more expensive electricity?" Dr Gonzi asked.
Speaking during a visit to farmers in Mgarr, he said the Labour energy plan was a gimmick of the first order, not least because its implementation would cost almost twice what Labour was saying.
It had emerged, he observed, that the 9c6 unit cost of production which Labour was speaking about did not include the profit which the private investors were expected to make.
The government, Dr Gonzi said, wanted the lowest possible tariffs, but they needed to be sustainable.
He did not want to see Malta suffer like Greece and Cyprus. The private sector organisations which had praised the Labour plan had done so before realising that the people would have to pay for much of it, tariffs would rise and jobs would be put at risk, Dr Gonzi said.
MORE FUNDS FOR AGRICULTURE
Dr Gonzi said farmers and fishermen were one of the pillars of the Maltese economy, and the government was in talks with the European Union for more funds to be available to this sector.
He said that in eight years, the sector was given €80 million in national funds and €100m in EU funds, enabling modernisation. The government also introduced various measures, including lower social security and an easier way how agricultural land could be transferred to full-time farmers.
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Joseph Grech Attard
Feb 9th, 11:54
The EU budget for agriculture has remained static so i cannot understand how farmers willm eceive more! The EU budget for things like pipelines has been reduced, so one can only implement pipelines by borrowing more money from somewhere. Why doesn't the PM give a true picture? We were promised 'money no problem' and we ended up 'money huge provlem'. These are the true facts.
sandra zammit
Jan 12th, 10:29
i would like to know from the government I elected last general election hasn't proposed anything yet about energy,and why the pipeline and whatever he is suggesting to the pl hasn't been put in action in these last 27 yrs?why are the pn and it's leaders criticising the pl's proposal and nothing from their part has been proposed?
Eve Axiaq
Jan 12th, 08:17
Pipeline jfisser mhux qabel ghaxar snin ohra. PN qal li jrid madwar sitt snin biex jitlesta. Fondi approvati fil-verita m'hemmx. Kull ma hemm applikazzjoni preliminari. Knowing PN l-ewwel jinawguraw l-ewwel parti, imbaghad l-ewwel fazi, jieqaf ix-xoghol, jinawguraw it-tieni parti, it-tieni fazi.............. Kullhadd jaf kemm damu biex tlestew Materdei u Cirkewwa Terminal.
PHILIP RIZZO
Jan 12th, 07:41
The denouncement of a specific and detailed energy proposal as amateurish by those who have been directly responsible for the productive inefficiencies of the state monopoly that has resulted in energy costs that have crippled each one of us is most unconvincing. Malta needs a change of government!
Frank Zammit
Jan 12th, 02:17
Enough of this charade, stop asking irrelevant questions, and say something worth listening to. By misleading people you are only confirming that your PARTY has no answer to the PL plans. Do you think we are all stupid and that we don't know when you are creating a spin? Treat people with respect and show some consideration towards the intelligence of the people.
Joe Tabone
Jan 11th, 20:01
Common sense - a gas pipeline is safer and environmentally better. Why should we build two HUGE gas tanks? Why risk??
Eddy Privitera
Jan 12th, 09:04
Joe Tabone_ The Maltese people, businesses and Enemalta cannot afford to wait 5!7 more years for the pipeline. Until the pipeline happens the PL's plans are the ideal solution !
J. Pace
Jan 12th, 14:24
@eddy - as if your labour will finish his dream project in 5 years...
We will speak in 5 years time and see whether 1) the project has been complicated, 2) how much it costed, 3) how much we are paying..
If all this dream comes true, I will vote labour for the rest of my life..Pero tinsiex x'qal il-capo tieghek - "ha jiehu responsabilta tal progett" so I expect him to resign in 2 - 3 years time!
David Bezzina
Jan 11th, 19:33
Instead of asking frivolous questions,Gonzi may do well enough to illuminate on how he plans to reduce the tariffs in the near future.
And just to put this in perspective,the EU will only fork out a fraction of the cost of the pipeline in any case.An important detail Mr.Busuttil forgot to mention.
And furthermore,Labour has not discarded this option and never did.
Charles Cremona
Jan 11th, 20:13
I don't believe Gonzi or Muscat will be able to reduce energy tarriffs, if anything they will go up, simply because the price of oil and gas is forecast to double in the next five years. Every country in the world with the exception of Saudi and Kuwait is facing escalating energy prices, we are no exception despite what the politicians tell you we have to pay up same as everyone else has to.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 19:15
To this very day, dr. gonzi has STILL NOT DENIED Dr. Muscat's accusation, that GonziPN would be increasing W&E tariffs if re-elected, as was revealed in a report of the EU Commission !!!! When will Gonzi come clean on this ???? Or is he afraid that Dr. Muscat will publish the report ?
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 19:55
How about Dr. Muscat publish his proposal studies and reports, how about start treating the Maltese voters with some diligence and respect, asking for my vote on a half baked proposal with one big ? written over it. why not publish his own work on the figures he presented us. that's more important to us specially floating voters. If he wants to win our trust he must be open in his proposals
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 19:59
To this very day JM has declined to publish the proposal and has declined to provide us with concrete plans, this shows the type of gimmick he and his party is EDDIE and your nothing special as your one of them ...he speaks and you bow your head. for you MLP voters election is nothing but "we won" it's like a football game but my family and my property is at risk with this political game of JM
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 20:08
then again if you take into consideration the 25% on reduction on the E&W, currently the price per unit stands at 18c with the interconnector the price will drop to 11c, further to JM gimmick plant the price would drop to 9c6. So 2c4, what's all this fuzz about even if his estimates are correct at 370 m, we only get 2c4 reduction while from the interconnector we get 7/unit.
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 20:11
therefore Eddie the reduction will come about thanks to a PN government who invested in the interconnector with a reduction of 7c/unit. JM proposal contains to many risks for one to consider for a mere 2c4 reduction per unit. There again JM riding on Gonzi back first the budget then the interconnector what's next ohh yes the Pipe line is not being ruled out now....lollll
Eddy Privitera
Jan 12th, 12:36
John Bonello: PL has published more than enough details, far more than GonziPN ever does. GonziPN is only good at piblishing artists' impression of projects, suc h as the White Rocks Sports complex - which never materialise. Smart City which remains a Ghost City. When PL piblishes something , this means that IT WLL BE DONE !
George Azzopardi
Jan 12th, 16:11
@John Bonello ..GonziPN ghadu anqas biss hareg bi proposta wahda!! Ghax ma jghidilniex kif se jrahhas l-eletriku kif qal fil-Germanja jumejn ilu! Fil-kas ghidlu wkoll jghidilna meta w kif (ghal-inqas!!)
zammit o
Jan 11th, 19:13
According to Gonzi the PL "must have already spent €1m in the campaign".
In order to be credible, Gonzi must publish his calculations
David Bezzina
Jan 11th, 19:35
Why the sudden interest in Labour's campaign funding ?
Now that's rich coming from a party who never publishes its accounts.
Mario Scicluna
Jan 11th, 18:57
@J Martinelli
Kemm qed jinteressak pjan meqjum u maghmul bil-galbu tal-PL sabiex jghin il-familji etc.! Donnu qisek qed tippanikkja Martinelli, forsi qed tpappiha u qed tibza? Staqsejt x'qed jipproponi GonziPN tieghek? Bahh bhas ssoltu . Staqsejt lil Simon x'se jaghmel? Staqsejt dwar x'fih il kuntratt ta' St. Philips? BWSC? Dwar kif kuntratt ta' €1 miljun saru €29 miljun? Yellow Pages tghid??
anthony brincat
Jan 11th, 18:34
at last thanks pl
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 18:52
THANK YOU FOR WHAT?????? some people never stops to amaze me, at last we know that it's a big fat lie and the best gimmick of the century...
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 19:52
@ Bonello: enlighten us how you know.
Charles Massa
Jan 11th, 18:19
IL PL hareg bi pjan serju kif u meta se inaqqas il kontijiet tal dawl/ilma. Gonzi ilu 5 snin jejdilna li dan ma jistax isehh. Issa il PN qieghed fi stat ta paniku
Emanuel Muscat
Jan 11th, 18:16
Some farmers does not have enough space to store new agriculture machinery bought partly from the EU funds and there are complaints that the goverment through MEPA policy does not allow them to errect new siutable stores in their own fields specially in ODZ.This is a wrong policy and as promises by this goverment before the reform of MEPA it should be one of the reforms to be done.
effie stafrace
Jan 11th, 18:07
@Joe M Borg .do you think that the eu will sponsor a project that may run into millions of euros,a sum of 700 millions is being mentioned,just to see that 400000 citizens would not have to pay high energy bills.
m. borg (slm)
Jan 11th, 18:35
Did you think all this by yourself?
Michael Magri
Jan 11th, 17:59
"What interest does it have in having opted for more expensive electricity?" Dr Gonzi asked.
DO YOU MEAN THE BWSC MYSTERY, WITH A 4 MILLION EURO COMMISSION.....!!!!!!!!
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 17:47
Here for you that think otherwise:
http://finance.gov.mt/image.aspx?site=MFIN&ref=Malta%20Gas%20Supply%20Report
http://finance.gov.mt/image.aspx?site=MFIN&ref=ENI%20Gas%20Pipeline%20Final%20Report_1
http://finance.gov.mt/image.aspx?site=MFIN&ref=ENI%20Gas%20Pipeline%20Final%20Report_2
j brincat
Jan 11th, 17:30
"Dr Gonzi said farmers and fishermen were one of the pillars of the Maltese economy"
Can he tell us how many farmers have abandoned their fields because they can't make both end meet?
The same goes to the fishermen.
Will he go to Marsaxlokk?
jb
j brincat
Jan 11th, 17:28
"It had emerged, he observed, that the 9c6 unit cost of production which Labour was speaking about did not include the profit which the private investors were expected to make"
AND where has it emerged so?
jb.
j brincat
Jan 11th, 17:16
Queries about election funding!
Was I imagining things when I thought I saw an ex- Parliamentary Secretary taking our handfuls of euro ,which must have run into thousands, from his pockets during one of the fund raising activities organised by the PN and shown on NET?
jb
Maryanne Camilleri
Jan 11th, 17:09
GonziPn still has not informed us how much the gas pipeline will cost and when is it planned for it to come into operation. Furthermore, since the PN are committed to reduce the electricity and water rates, could they please inform us by how much will it decrease, how and when. Simon Busuttil did not answer these questions on PBS but muddled through a prepared vague response.
Joe M Borg
Jan 11th, 17:35
Maryanne. The difference between PN and PL projects is that PN project will be sponsored by EU, while PL WILL NOT! With a pipeline, you have a continuous flow of gas, while with PL's 'brilliant' plan, you rely on ships. Plus, you'll need two massive tanks, as big as Mosta Dome. Will the M'Xlokk Local Council 'bless' this 'bomb' next door?? A 15kg gas container can destroy a house,PL's bomb...
M Borg
Jan 11th, 17:45
Was the volume of your TV low when you watched PBS yesterday? The cost of the pipeline was explained not once but three times.
Simon Busuttil explained that the pipeline will be funded by the EU. a very clear answer but it seems that Toni Abela did not want ot understand it.
Because of this pipeline rates will be reduced.
Warren Griscti
Jan 11th, 18:07
Tha gas pipeline is still coming from 1999 lool that's a long time ago. Miskin issa ha juzah ax semmih il pl. it tieni haga la jkun sar il pipeline ukoll jintuza ukoll imma bil vapuri tista trahhas malajr ax il pipeline fadallu hafna bix isir. Il bomba li qedin tbezzaw bija tifirhu tal pn biss ax it tank ikollu is sigurta tijaw. U intom qedin biss tissoponu li jtukom il fondi ta eu hi
Maryanne Camilleri
Jan 11th, 19:22
Mr.Borg it appears that you do not know EU procedures & economic/accounting principles. Projects such as the pipeline are co-funded so there will be a cost. Also from an economic/accounting viewpoint there are opportunity costs that are equal to the pipeline total cost. Hence, GonziPn needs to inform us the € project value. I want to know when, how & the amount the utility bills will be reduced?
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 20:02
Maryanne if you log on to the FM web site everything in there is published for you & others to know, if you look further up in my post you have the links there to follow. The PN already said that by next year alone the price per unit will be 11/unit due to the interconnector which will come to service then.
Maryanne Camilleri
Jan 12th, 10:52
Mr Bonello what I want to know is the € value of the construction & commissioning of the gas pipeline. I want to know by how much the utility bills will be reduced to the consumer & when such decreases will take place. I will even now raise the stakes: Is the proposed gas pipeline (promised in 1999) viable for a power station which according to Tonio Fenech is only to generate 50 mega watts?
j brincat
Jan 11th, 17:09
Simply because we're NOT inventing the wheel as Profs Edward Mallia confirmed yesterday (an expert on these matters)!
But GonziPN is still stunned by the PL's professional proposals!
Now we're are waiting for GonziPN's proposals or he has already run out of steam!
jb
Joe M Borg
Jan 11th, 17:39
j brincat Gonzi's proposals have been going on for the past 5 years. You missed them because you prefer a Onetv overdose. The gas pipeline has been planned, and funds are being asked for it from the EU (PL's plan CANNOT get funds from EU). With a pipeline, you get a continuous flow, PL's plan relies on ships! Also, PL's plan puts two 'bombs' the size of Mosta Dome opposite M'Xlokk. Get it?
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 17:03
This week, it struck me as quite obvious that the PN is running a reactive campain rather than an active one. They are lost in constantly asking PL for details and themselves not showing us what they intend to do: it's not enough to tell us that there is no need for change because the people have PN. We want to know how you are going to change what we have been complaining of all these years.
Joe M Borg
Jan 11th, 17:45
PN have been DOING things for 15 years. PL have only PLANNING. That's the difference! YOU can start the change by switching off Onetv, going out, and seeing new roads; PV's; Lufthansa Technique; SR Electronics; new schools; new hotels; tourism records; If you attended PL's first meeting, you should have noticed, IN THE HARBOUR AREA ALONE: terminal; lift; breakwater; restored walls;marina....
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 18:42
@ Joe M Borg: You do what you like and let others do what they feel like doing - do not patronise! Of course PN has done alot of things, no denying. But now it's time for a change. Our honourable Dr. Fenech Adami once said - remember - a party in government should not exceed 10 years.
Peter Simpson
Jan 11th, 17:02
Muscat opens doors and possibilities: we have never had an open debate on our energy needs before. On the other hand GonziPN can only offer us sky high electrcity bills, heavy and dirty oil power stations; and a lot of rifles to shoot down feasible, doable proposals like this gas fired power station. Up to now no instituion or captain of industry has shot it down. When are we going to grow up?
J Chircop
Jan 11th, 16:53
How does HFO get here GonziPN?
Where are the party funding laws?
Whistle blower act?
Do you publish your accounts? PL does!
What are you proposing? More of the same?
M Grima
Jan 11th, 16:49
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/20/idUS50783+20-Nov-2012+HUG20121120
Tonio Fenech and Dr. Simon Busuttil please look up this Reuters site to confirm that Dr. Konrad Mizzi was spot on when he told you that you know absolutely nothing about 10 year gas supply agreements.
GonziPN thinks the electorate are morons
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 11th, 17:09
Grima with a little desktop research and analysis of that same article you would hopefully understand that you made a gross mistake, tantamount to shooting a crater through your foot, when you made reference to it and suggested that you are not a moron.
I don't think you are - you are just clutching at invisible straws. Understandable.
victor ellul
Jan 11th, 17:12
prosit ....issa forsi jemnu ghax qaluha l.barranin...u mhux xi cuc malti...
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 11th, 17:22
@M. Grima: the article does not address the issue. What is being questioned is not the possibility of entering into a 10 year agreement but FIXING THE PRICE for 10 years without any mechanism which will adjust for the volatile market price.
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 17:23
Grima, this is different from the MLP model to start with in germany there are more then one supply companies not like malta. and secondly the MLP model is to have the investors who will be running the plant tied to 10 years agreement which is impossible not unless the government put guarantees for them otherwise they will become liable & do you think these investors are stupid enough
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 17:26
this type of hedging agreement we will be able to do it once we finish the pipe line to scicily, then we can buy our own supply direct from companies like statoil and run our own power plant but not as proposed by the MLP. What if the investors deciede to end the businues with enemalta then what?? what if there is an industrial dispute with enemalta ?? its a bit more complicated then you think
M Grima
Jan 11th, 17:53
@John Bonello
I have strictly omitted to comment about the details of such agreements but limited my point to the fact that both T. Fenech and S. Busuttil categorically denied that 10 year agreements DO NOT exist in the energy sector. Nowadays with the use of investment vehicles like long-term hedging, futures and derivatives and with the help of scenario planning such agreements are possible.
M Borg
Jan 11th, 18:04
@ M Grima
I do not think that you will be happy paying what the Germans are paying for their electricty
Published: 25 Aug 12 13:41
Households in Germany pay around €3 billion too much for their electricity each year, according to a market analysis which says industry is benefitting from state aid for the switch to renewables – but domestic customer are left out
Maurice Aquilina
Jan 11th, 20:17
..the article your referenced is actually CONFIRMING what the PN are saying! The 10 year Statoil/Wintershall agreement refers to the 10 year SUPPLY of Gas but NOT a price.
On the contrary, it is a contract taking into consideration Spot prices, ie: the fluctuating market prices.. ie: no one will offer a fixed price for 10 years.. So yes you are right, some of the electorate are indeed morons! :)
John Grech
Jan 11th, 16:48
Dawn id difensuri Tal pl kemm qed jaghtuh poter lil gonzi..... Mela Vera li possibli li l pn jirbah l elezzjoni ghax kieku se jitlef hadd ma jaghti kaz dak li jghid gonzi!!!!!!
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 11th, 17:21
Mela ahseb u ara kemm qieghdin jaghtuh POTER lil Muscat il ministri bhall Tonio - Beppe - Jason u il 'wonder boy' li il hin kollu jitmahznu u jippopaw biex jipruvaw jawgu il fatti tal proposta laburista.
Tony Zammit
Jan 11th, 16:40
Why a gas pipeline Malta to Sicily, What happens if it's cheaper in Libja?another pipe line?
Shawn Grixti
Jan 11th, 17:06
Prosit! Kumment bis-sens!!! Ieqaf u ahseb kien jghid in-nannu!!
Mario Mercieca
Jan 11th, 17:34
1. We are members of the EU not a part of Libya, 2. the EU will only fund a Gas pipeline which connects us with it, otherwise you will have to pay for it through our pockets, 3. We are much nearer to Sicily than to Libya, thus the pipeline would be much cheaper. 4. It takes several years and expense to build a pipeline (especially if not EU funded) that having two pipelines is not viable
Tony Zammit
Jan 16th, 18:57
Mario Mercieca
Then ship it to Malta..as one could ship this gas from any where in the world and it dosen't take 4-5 years to get here..
Then connect pipe line Libya to Malta to Sicily.
G Schembri
Jan 11th, 16:36
Dr Gonzi can hardly criticize the PL proposals, his powers station works with heavy fuel oil, costing Malta a lot of money to get rid of the toxic remains, and a lot more on health issues such Asthma and cancer. Did the PN get any money from the commission for the BWSC power station. Why is he thinking that the PL are connected to any funny business - L-ispizjar milli jkollu jtik?
michael scicluna
Jan 11th, 16:33
Mhux ovja!! biex isewwi l-hsara li ghamiltu fl-enemalta b'mod immedjat! Ghaliex bil-vapuri is sena d-diehla ikollna rohs fejn bil-pipeline rridu nistennew 5snin
pat muscat
Jan 11th, 16:33
It would take normally 7 to 10 years build a pipeline between Malta and Sicily , provided GonziPN is not at the helm. Otherwise, judging by past GonziPN performances-(Cirkewwa Terminal 13 years, Mater Dei 18 years) :it would take an other 15 to 20 years..... if we are lucky that is!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 11th, 17:17
It takes max 5 years to build a pipeline. It takes longer if you build an offshore terminal with that
Mater Dei. You conveniently forget that the original plans where to build an acute hospital with 200 beds, than AS after promising to dismantle it stone by stone and with no planning at all decided it would be a 600 bed hospital
PL record. Bugibba front. 700K-8mth project became 2M-16mt project
Christine Vella
Jan 11th, 16:30
since the 7th of January, Labour has been minding his own business and only cares what labour does. On the o ther hand PN party is only asking questions and never minding his business. Bondi plus perfect example
Saviour Cachia
Jan 11th, 16:27
Can anyone explain from where have the 400,000,000,000 million national debt accumulated? Arriva, Mater Dei, BWSC etc and all the financial atrocities done by Gonzi PN oligarchy, added by the new Parlament and open theatre? Why Gonzi and his colleagues are not ashamed to keep asking about Labour Party proposals, when we had tangible prove where PN policies led our country?
Thomas C. Cassar
Jan 11th, 16:17
Dottor Gonzi mid-dehra biex jitla sal-bejt jixtri xarabank jew karozza kull darba. Ma tafx li vapuri jinkrew, kumpanijji tal-gass Maltin diga jaghmlu dan?
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 16:28
Jekk il-vapuri jinkrew, min se jhallas il-kera? U jekk Joseph jikri l-vapuri, ma jkunu taghna qatt, le? Nibqghu inhallsu l-kera.
Minn naha l-ohra, jekk jixtri l-vapuri (e150 miljum) min se jhallashom lura (+ interessi)?
Il-kumpanniji Maltin li jimpurtaw gass, jimpurtaw LPG u mhux LNG. Taf x'inhi d-diffedrenza?
Gonzi biex jitla fuq il-bejt it-tarag juza mhux xarabank.
Ara veru Lejber!
Thomas C. Cassar
Jan 11th, 16:40
Hasra ma hadux il-pariri tieghek meta ghaffgu tal-BWSC u l-heavy fuel oil sur Martinelli. U x'jimpurtana li poggejna f'periklu s-sahha ta' xebgha nies ghax donnu dan l-issue tas-sahha kullhadd skartah.
Tony Zammit
Jan 11th, 16:44
J Martinelli
Le ta' usa il lift
R Axisa
Jan 11th, 16:47
J Martinelli - go through or listen to the details well before you write - gie spjegat tajjeb li mhux il-kaz li se jinxtraw vapuri, u l-ispejjez tal-garr bil-vapuri huwa accounted for diga.
Tony Borg
Jan 11th, 16:54
J Martinelli
Sur Martinelli tista jekk joghgbok tghidilna kemm ghandha vapuri l-enemalta biex iggorr il heavy fuel oil?
Ovvjament ir-risposta hi zero kif inhu in-numru ta' haddiema li thaddem il-famuza kumpanija braziljana.
Allura skond is-sapjenza kbira tieghek ma jimpurtax jekk jinkrew il-vapuri biex igorru il-heavy fuel oil imma daghwa jekk igorru l-lng?
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jan 11th, 16:13
This energy proposal by the MLP is a GIMMICK!
The same gimmick that the MLP has turned into B L U E !
Everything is BLUE, - Blue here, Blue there and Blue everywhere!
Where is the true colour of the MLP, the R E D ?
Ashamed of Red, perhaps?
JC.
.
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 16:32
Good one Joseph.
Blue here, Blue there and Blue everywhere!
And soon they will find out that they BLEW it one more time!
Tony Zammit
Jan 11th, 16:35
The Malta flag is good enough
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 16:10
To those who replied to my comment much further down: if Gonzi now says that W&E tariffs can be lowered, then 1 year ago he was trying to fool televiewers when he had stated,that what Dr. Muscat was saying about lowering tariffs " WAS IMPOSSIBLE " ! Gonzi can't have it both ways. Either he was lying then, or is lying today !
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 11th, 16:23
Privitera you are an endemic fabricator of "inaccuracies"
Gonzi, as any person with a minimum of responsibility would, repeatedly said and says that he is committed to lower prices and hence the energy strategy that is based on BSWC, Interconnector and Gas Pipeline. Whether that commitment results in lower prices depends on fuel prices about which NO ONE has even a tiny degree of control.
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 16:45
@ Joe Micallef
No Eddy & Co are too thick in the head to figure things out.
Why is Joseph proposing 3 ships?
Reason: Ships mean millions, bought or leased = commissions to Labour leaning 'investors'.
Gas-fired 'Bateman plant' = 300 million for which their 'local rep' received no commission from BWSC deal.
Muscat is duping the public even before winning the election!
Mur ara x'inhu gej, jekk...
R Axisa
Jan 11th, 16:49
Mr Joe Micallef - how can you say that Gonzi repeated said that he is committed to lower prices? I always heard him say that it is impossible to lower them. And by the way, he even voted in favour of increasing them "bil-qalb".
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 16:58
PT1. No Eddie he wasn’t lying and he isn’t lying now, he said that during the debate because as it is now in Malta we can’t lower down the prices, but the PN government took measures to control and lower the prices as best we could, interconnect is one of the initiatives, encourage the consumers to invest in PV panels with subsidies schemes
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 16:59
PT2. I must ask these questions; after the millions of euros of investment on this power plant, where is the ability to switch to the most economical or readiest available fuel, this is of great value in a time of fluctuating fuel prices. This operational flexibility is a real advantage with the dual-fuel system, but it seems that JM (acting on behalf of Bateman)
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 11th, 17:03
Axisa
Gonzi was saying prices couldn't be lowered without the interconnector and gas pipeline.
I assume you know that at current prices, when the interconnector is in place production price will drop form 18c to 11c and when the pipeline is in place it will drop to 8c+
At that time the question was. With the current infrastructure and fuel prices could prices be lowered - and the answer was no.
victor ellul
Jan 11th, 16:06
hadd mu jsemmi li bil power station tal BWSC qed ikolna nhalsu biex narmu lisksart tossiku tieghu
P Sciberras
Jan 11th, 15:55
This is a tricky question,as it does not say if this pipeline connection will be going straight from Malta to Sicily, or if there is going to be an inter connector halfway between? Is the price Malta will have to pay for the gas is the same price Sicily buys its gas or at the international price,or negotiated ? What alternatives will be available if any damage is incurred to the pipeline.
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 16:53
Gas prices are set according to the international market demand. Same as oil prices are set by OPEC.
Individual countries MAY be able to get some preferential deals but it's not the general rule.
In Malta's case, any preferential deals may very well be offset by transportation costs .
Joseph bases his calculations on the present depressed market demand. Just wait until the world economy revs up!
Joseph Micallef
Jan 11th, 15:50
Tghid kieku ma kienx hemm il-cameras, kien imur il-Gonz sabiex icarrat halqu bis-solita tbissima ultra falza tieghu? Qabad il-laring ta halli jezaminah. Allahares jaqbad id-dejn ta' Malta ghaliex ghereq bih kieku.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 11th, 15:48
Oh come on Gonz... call it a day and disintegrate from politics please. I will never forgive you for putting me in a situation where I had to leave Partit Nazzjonalista. You ruined a party, you ruined a country. Tigri tasal l-elezzjoni sabiex nivvota bil-qalb kontrik.
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 16:59
Way to go Joseph!
You cannot even hide the fact that your comment is an obvious 'plant' just like we experience from time to time by Labour elves. Your comments have 'Labour' written all over them and stop crying about 'having to leave the Nationalist Party' you never really belonged to.
Ruined Malta, eh? Why are you not protesting on the streets with a 'Vote Lejber' poster?
Hallina Zepp!
Louis Craus
Jan 11th, 15:35
Gonzi jrid ikun jaf minn fejn qed igib il- flus il- PL.
KIf jaf li PL nefaq EU 1M?
Kif ma jghidx hu min fejn qed igib il- Flus?
Irid ikun jaf ghax il- PL ser juza il- vapuri flok il- pipeline.... Easy.
Ghax jibza li Pullicino jsoddlu il- pipes.
anton cassar
Jan 11th, 16:44
Louis, Gonzi ghadu ma ra xejn !!!!!......Mela x`ser jghid issa la jara id- Dome ta M`Xlokk ??
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 17:07
@ Anton: u lanqas int ghadek ma rajt xejn.
anton cassar
Jan 11th, 18:04
@ Joseph sammut.....Hekk qed jghidu ...Il-kbir ghadu gej !!!
David Farrugia
Jan 11th, 15:32
party financing...ask a certain Debono who concluded a professional report for GRECO....and whom you chose to label 'irrelevant'
Anthony Lee Baldacchino
Jan 11th, 15:26
Dear Gonzi, please ahjar ma tghid xejn. INT L-IKTAR Prim Ministru li lir-rahal taghna (Marsaxlokk) qatt ma stmajtu u wara li ghamiltilna l-power station tahdem bl-iktar zejt mahmug, gejt tghamlilna il-front tar-rahal u taf li mhux kollu ghamiltu, biex minghalik tghaddi biz-zmien lin-nies. Int komplejt iggib il-firda go dan il-pajjiz.
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 17:09
Mela xi tghid ghall PS tal-Marsa li fi zmien l-idolu tal-MLP inqaleb minn zejt ghall faham l-aktar mahmug?
Il-PS ta Delimara jahdem bi fuel li jintuza mad-dinja kollha w l-emissjonijiet huma baxxi w kif stabbiliti mill-UE.
Issa meta Joseph jibni zewg bombi w li jekk allahares qatt jisplodu jaghmlu herba mir-rahal tieghek, ghid (jekk tibqa haj), "Heqq, hekk kien hemm bzonn la Joseph qalilna hekk"!
Peter Cassar
Jan 11th, 15:25
Hon. Prime Minister Gonzi...can you please give me a concrete list of proposals enticing to vote for my party again this year? Let us not waste our time with continuous questioning of the PL's proposals and campaign funds...
Every true Nationalist should realise that others are coming across as well prepared and we are coming across as the panicked ones...
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 17:11
Part of the 'team', Pete?
Alex Coppola
Jan 11th, 15:24
As from March 9, 2013 we shall have a new teledrama series on TVM called "Il-Gas jigi mil-vapuri"!!!
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 17:10
Is sabieha hija li PN qeghdin jafsu hafna lill-PL ghad-dettalji biex flistess hin qeghdin jizolqu milli jaghtuna d-dettalji tahhom: xarukaza!
Paul Micallef
Jan 11th, 15:21
Bil haqq xweghedi u gimmiks ghadna ghal din l-elezjzoni GONZI AND SIMON tal groccer????
Ghax hlief tejdu fuq il-proposta tal PL mintkhomx. Ejja ejdunna???
J Martinelli
Jan 11th, 17:20
U int ma tghid xejn fuq il-proposta ta Joseph, Pawl?
In-numri jhawwdulek mohhok jaqaw?
Taf x'qed jipproponi Muscat?
Taf li jekk jaghmel dak li qed jghid izid d-dejn b'xi 500 miljun ewro?
X'gara mill-ilmenti dwar id-dejn li kien iparla fil-vojt fil-Parlament?
Taf li qed jipproponi PS li ma ghandniex bzonna?
Taf li jrid ibigh iz-zejjed lill UE meta il-prezz hemm huwa irhas?
Fejn hu Scicluna? Stahba?
James Muscat
Jan 11th, 15:16
I tend to agree with the comment submitted by Mr. Mario Buhagiar. Through some research online it shows that countries who never had a gas infrastructure, have to start delivering gas by ships, as the construction of the pipeline takes considerable amount of time. Simple research !!!!
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 15:23
Or else you do not waist TAX money, invest in an inter-connector and then build a gas pipeline ... simpl logics. it has made already very clear that what lejber is proposing will generate more electricity then the country needs ... i.e,. WAIST!
James Muscat
Jan 11th, 16:31
Apart from clean energy and efficiency factors - at this stage Enemalta cannot keep moving in this direction - A complete hemorrhage of financial losses with direct effect on the consumer - transferring itself on utility bills.
Anthony Paris
Jan 11th, 15:13
"What interest does it have in having opted for more expensive electricity?" Dr Gonzi asked. "What interest did GonziPN have in having opted for the dirtier Heavy Fuel Oil electricity?" we have been and still are, asking.
Maria Xuereb
Jan 11th, 15:09
Pero' biex inkompli, jiena ghadni nittama li tikkonvincini li nerga nafdak bil-proposti li ser tohrog ghalina l-Maltin. Sa issa jiena u l-familja tieghi ghadna fit-triq tan-nofs jekk nergghux nivvotaw lil PN jew le pero' ha nistqarr li l-propoti tal-Labour huma fantastici s'issa u jekk ma tikkonvincinix jiena u l-falmilja zgur li nivvutaw ghall-ewwel darba lil kamp oppost, jigifieri lil Labour
Henry J Bonett
Jan 11th, 15:06
The problem about party financing is that the PN has been holding back on such a popular law. The only conclusion that comes out of this is that change has not been to their advantage. Does one also read from the PM's concern that he is feeling the earth shake beneath his feet and does not want to cede advantage?
Maria Xuereb
Jan 11th, 15:05
Dr. Gozni jiena qed nistenna l-poposti tieghek halli nara kif ha jolqtuni f'dawn il-5 snin li gejjin, nara jekk ikunux fis-sod jew inkella mibjin fl-arja, nara jekk hemmx cans li l-partit jerga jidhaq bija bil-weghdi tighu, dan irrid niflieh sewwa u bilghaqal halli wara niddeciedi jekk nargax nivvota lil PN jew le. Nistqarr li s'issa l-iktar proposti konkreti qed narahom gejjin mill-kamp oppost
Pippo de Marco
Jan 11th, 15:01
Just a thought, but would having ships open up the possibility of obtaining gas from a wider range of sources than the one pipeline that we could eventually become a price-hostage to ?
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 11th, 15:27
On the one hand, yes. On the other, transporting explosive substance on a ship is more dangerous, risky and costly.
Charles Caruana Carabez
Jan 11th, 15:55
at A. Scicluna: The 'gas' is transported in liquified form, just like petrol is.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 19:05
Scicluna, there are specialised ships that carry LNG - in fact they are called 'LNG Carriers' - so don't worry about explosing ships. Better worry about the hmerijiet li qed jipprova jbellalkom Gonzi.
David Caruana
Jan 11th, 14:52
"Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi this morning again asked where Labour its getting its electoral campaign funds from"
It was YOUR duty to enact a party financing law. You failed to do so in 25 years.
KARMA
Joseph Bajada
Jan 11th, 14:48
such a pathetic PM. What credentials does he have in criticizing the PL energy proposal when he failed so miserably in this area?
J. Camilleri
Jan 11th, 14:45
Kemm int kujuz sur gonzi. Mhux ahjar tejdilna l proposti tijek milli hsibhek fuq ta haddiehor. Irridu twegiba dawn...illhom jamlu daqshekk skandli
Shawn Grixti
Jan 11th, 14:45
@Joseph Aquilina, poggi naqra bil-qeghda ghax tidher li ser taddik xi wahda. Ikkalma... li ser taqghu mil-gvern mhu tort ta' hadd hlief ta' Gondsi u il-kukkanja tieghu, bil weghdiet folloz u ta' kemm meghla il-bwiet tieghu u ta' madwaru u halla lil-poplu isofri il-konsegwenzi!!
Frans Bartolo
Jan 11th, 14:41
From the Opposition I expect proposals, from a party in governament I examine and judge performance. Franco Debono
Joseph Borg
Jan 11th, 14:37
I bet Franco Debono can talk at great lengths on the subject! But why did GonziPN ignore him?
brian spiteri
Jan 11th, 14:34
Ahjar gonzi jghidilna ghalfejn meta it taljani bnew il pipeline tal gass u iz zejt mill libja ghall sqallija u ghaddew minn hdejn malta ahna ma hadniex fera. Meta kont il libja u mort hdejn ir raffinerija li tibghat il gass u iz zejt lejn sqallija li qieghda kwazi mal fruntieta ta tunez, il libjani ma setghux jhifmu ghalfejn il maltin ghazlu li jibqghu jiehdu il gass bil vapur.
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:34
What if parts of Mater Dei are given to private sector in order to invest in medical equipment such as MRIs, or theatres and we lesser immortals are asked to pay a nominal fee for procedures? Would the Maltese Citizens agree to this?
This is the same as asking private sector to invest in generating electricity. If they generate 40% than it's as if privatizing 40%. The profits will come later.
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:31
Gonzi, i am a simple citizen and I have understood the plan more than you, PM! we will get the LNG with tankers at first which are now transporting HFO. then, by the funds of the EU we will be getting LNG via the pipeline. is that simple enough for you? stop playing deaf, coz its irritating
M Borg
Jan 11th, 15:01
Well that is the trouble, it seems you did not understand the new plan.
With the plan being proposed we will not be able to get any EU funds. That is the trouble, big trouble for us. If it goes wrong we will all suffer.
William x
Jan 11th, 15:12
then you are an idiot. cause normal tankers can't carry LNG, LNG has to be contained under pressure and extremely cold temps.
Andre Briffa
Jan 11th, 15:27
Mario Buhagiar, you're not making sense
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 17:21
@ what has gone wrong with this government for us to suffer an increase in taxes, high fuel prices and high electricity bills? How I dislike people who want to preach to others things that they themselves are doing wrong. What is wrong for us to do something on our own steam: the EU should appreciate this not complain. Maybe we get EU funds for other things: you think that PN only can manage us?
Warren Griscti
Jan 11th, 14:18
Iva lil Simon nistaqsih jien fi 12 il sena ma kontux kapaci iggibu il fondi min eu u tibnu il pipeline? Propju issa wara li bnejtu bl hfo tridu teqilbuwa al gass. Imma kemm hasbuwom ma jifmux in nies bir rispett kollu
Giocchino Attard
Jan 11th, 14:15
I 'm very sorry to ask Is this this the man we had in office for the past years.Very embarrasing.
brian spiteri
Jan 11th, 14:15
@ gonzi
Mela issa l anqas tifhem bil malti ma ghadek? Ir risposta tahielek conrad il bierah fl istqarrija ghall istampa, ghax il pipeline jiehu hafna snin biex jinbena u il maltin u l industrija maltija ma jistghux jistennew iktar!! Raguni ohra hi li bil pipeline bilfors trid tixtri il gass min ghand supplier wiehed, jekk ikollok terminal tista tixtrieh min ghand min jaqbilkek.
Giocchino Attard
Jan 11th, 14:15
I 'm very sorry to ask Is this this the man we had in office for the past years.Very embarrasing.
Warren Griscti
Jan 11th, 14:13
Tara Bondi+ u tinduna bl- imparzjalita tal-programm. Meta toni iqajjem punti kontra il-pn l-argument idur milewel biex ma jinkixifx hmieg. Meta Simon mistoqsi jekk hux ha jolew il-kontijiet it-twegiba baqa ma inatatx u hlief bombi u teatrini mux qedin nisimaw. Jien nejdlu il-poplu mohhu miftuh u deciz li lil lg ma jridux fit-tmexxija aktar.
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 17:27
B'liema awtorita Bondi jitlob ghal-dettali biex kif jghid huwa jiflijhom u jiggudikhom. Dan fix jifhem ghajr li jghid li huwa gurnalist? Imma din hija l-ghajnuna li huwa jghati lil-PN u hasibna li "we cannot see through him". Din immissa tarah ukoll awtorita tax-xandir w l-PBS.
Alex Ellul
Jan 11th, 14:06
and here's the link showing Germany's building of 25 coal fired power plants, each 2400 MW each. Total power in malta equivalent: 60 power stations:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2012/08/31/germany-insane-or-just-plain-stupid/
Prepare to shed thy tears, oh crocodiles.....
Lawrence Attard
Jan 11th, 14:05
Mela kellu ragun dr Franko DeBono? F'dawn is-snin kollha ghax ma hadtux azzjoni w aghmiltu ligi sura dwar il-finanzjament tal-partiti politici?
J. Camilleri
Jan 11th, 14:00
il-fondi qed ingibuhom mil-ewropa!!! ha ha
Tony Borg
Jan 11th, 13:58
Well Dr. Gonzi if you had not dragged your feet and introduced the law on the financing of political parties the Maltese public would have known from where the PL is getting his funds.
You, asking from where the PL is getting the money is rich (pun intended)
Joe Busuttil
Jan 11th, 13:57
You ask us where the PL gets its funds ,Dr Gonzi? You have an expert in party financing right behind you, a bit to your left,if I'm seeing right . Go on,ask him ,and tell what he has to say. The less you say ,the better for you.
Jean Karl De Bono
Jan 11th, 13:48
Can Prime Minister Gonzi or Dr Simon Busuttil, or any other super energy expert `I know it all` from his cabinet deny what Profs. Edward Mallia had to say yesterday regarding transportation of gas by ships. I prefer trusting profs. Mallia rather any other person who has a shameful track record in the energy sector
M Cassar
Jan 11th, 13:44
Mela Gonzi nesa dawk ic-capep ta' flus hergin mill glekkijiet waqt il-gbir ta' fondi tal PN? Mur u hallina Gonz...dahhaqx izjed! Sur Gonzi ghalfejn bqajd qatt ma ghaddejt il-ligi tal-finanzjament tal-partiti hi? Issa too late! Dear Gonzi, int Il-Pipe Line u l-Vapuri qed jinkwetawk. Izda lil poplu qed jinkwetah is-sahha u l-but. Il-Poplu jrid arja nadifa, izjed flus fil-but u nies izjed fsahhitom
Mr Alexander Azzopardi
Jan 11th, 13:36
Why didnt you introduce party financing if youre so curios where the money are coming from? Or your own party has its own mega sponsors coming from tal klikka!!
Geoffrey Farrugia
Jan 11th, 13:33
Both pn and pl get financed by services rendered 'free of charge' rather than cash payments. If dr gonzi has doubts on this he can ask pbo for a breakdown of how pn is getting its election works done.
Andre Ellul
Jan 11th, 13:32
The more this proposal is debated the clearer the choice is between:
An improved status quo (PN) vs a leap into uncharted waters (MLP)
D Axisa
Jan 11th, 13:32
So, Dr. Gonzi is asking why Labour opted for ships instead of the pipeline. There is a simple answer, because Labour's proposal we can start getting gas sooner. But if we have to wait for the pipeline, which is also in Labours mind, we will have to wait for another 6 to 7 years.
A.Felix Busuttil
Jan 11th, 13:28
because pipe line takes 10 years. Why GonziPN did not think about pipeline? 8 years ago they said that soon this will start. But time frame as GonziPN style takes usually over 17 years
Oliver Grech
Jan 11th, 13:27
Inkompli nsostni li l- ghazla laburista ghal energija u l- flus tal- kampanja elettorali ghandhom x jaqsmu. Issa anke dome bnew dawn. U halluna. Possibli qed tahsbu li l- poplu mhux qed jinduna li hemm xi haga tintenn biex f daqqa wahda l- LP sar sinjurun. U dan mil- opposizzjoni...ahseb u ara jekk ikun fil-gvern.
J Micallef
Jan 11th, 13:24
Short term memory...how much did Mater Dir cost us comapred to the budget (Ok, it was expanded under MLP, but still, no excuse, it is OUR money).
How often do we manage to spend within 110% of what is budgeted for a project in Malta? NEVER!
So, how can we believe any of the arguments by either side on the PL proposal?
Mr Joseph Desira
Jan 11th, 13:23
Sussidji lil bdiewa ghadhom ma spiccawx suppost, imma mhu qed nircievu xejn. Ahjar jghid li dalwaqt jispiccaw, jew se jonqsu!
Peter Simpson
Jan 11th, 13:18
Ghala dan l-imbierek pipeline qatt ma smajna bih qabel Dr Konrad Mizzi ghamel l-esposition tieghu. Issa qam mir-raqda Dr Gonzi, meta ghal sena shiha l-Parlament mar on a 'long holiyday 'imhabba Dr Franco Debono; issa qed nisimghu b'dan l-imbierek pipline. U kif qatt ma ghamel program televiziv Tonio Fenech fuq l-energy procurment ta Malta? Kampanja politka ta GonziPN mill-yellow pages sa issa!
Paul Caruana
Jan 11th, 13:12
Let us be very clear on one thing: the issue of the questionable methods by which political parties get their money affects both parties (PL and PN) equally!
So rather than one party taking a 'holier than thou' approach to this issue, which honestly no side can, both parties should come together to come up with enforcable regulations for political party financing in Malta.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:38
"equally" is hardly right.
Labour has plans under wrap. Who knows? The private investors may have already invested.....
Mario Camilleri
Jan 11th, 13:41
Franco Debono said many times that he put forward his proposals and report which was left in the dark by his same party and for obvious reasons. Furthermore PBO did not accept the challenge made by PL's deputy Tony Abela to show both parties' financing. Nor did the PN put forward the whistle blower act.
Henry J Bonett
Jan 11th, 13:51
Absolutely right, Mr Caruana. Problem is that the PN has been holding back on such a popular law. The only conclusion that comes out of this is that it has not been to their advantage. Does one also read from the PM's concern that he is feeling the earth shake beneath his feet and does not want to cede advantage.
A Dimech
Jan 11th, 14:19
PN had 25 years time to enact a Party Finances Bill.
Franco debono pushed hard for it.
Gonzi ignored him. Now Gonzi should at least have the decency to shut up on the matter, since what is happening now is of his own making, by not doing anything.
Emanuel Curmi
Jan 11th, 14:31
The answer to that question is that neither party is interested to either divulge their sponsoring or introduce a legislation to regulate party financing. This is all twisted propaganda from the side of the PM ( and the opposition ) to their adoring but hardly critical followers. This is one of the evils of the 2 Party dictatorship in our so called democratic system.
C Muscat
Jan 11th, 13:12
Jien lil Gonzi nistaqsih kemm hallas overbudgets minn flusna bhala variations fil-progetti. Mhux ta b xejn hemm 5 BILJUNI dejn. Jien rawni ikrah ghax gbidt l-attenzjoni fuq progett tal-gvern. L-imghallem qalli li ma ghandux xoghol iktar ghalija.
Michael Seychell
Jan 11th, 13:25
Sur Muscat jekk dan ik-kaz gara veru, kull ma kellek taghmel kien li tiehu l-Imghallem tieghek quddiem it-Tribunal Industrijali biex tfittex id-drittijiek tieghek.
Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta
Paul Micallef
Jan 11th, 13:52
@Muscat.
Kif jitla il-PL ghanda issir gustizzja mieghek mill l-ewwel u hafna ohra bhalek. jien ukoll sofrejt ingustizja kerha gejt imkecci mil BOV sempliciment ghax LABURIST xejn aktar u wara tefewni naqta il-haxix Halfar, ghamlu minn kollox biex nispicca, imma zammejt sod. 25 sena nistenna gustizzja, u tal PN hadu promotions u kollox ghax sempliciment kienu presenti iz-zejtun. XEJN MU HA JINTESA
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:53
and I challange you to give an answer to that question! You know something that we do not know? A new power station was always planned, the interconnector was always planned. So what are you talking aboiut?
Frans Aguis
Jan 11th, 13:11
Well Dr Gonzi,If you had listened to you back bencher Franco Debono, a party financing bill would have already passed and been approved and you would know perfectly well how PL's campaign is financed.Instead you spent 10 years thinking you will always have more money because the big bosses usually donate to you. I guess you are no longer a good investment in their eyes.
Peter Simpson
Jan 11th, 13:09
Such comments on ships by Dr Gonzi simply point to the deeper-seated problems in Malta's energy procurment.
Joseph Galea
Jan 11th, 13:08
GONZIPN qed jikkalkula li s' issa il-PL nefaq Eur 1 000 000 s'issa. Ahseb u ara kemm ghamel kalkoli tajbin biex wasal li l-power station se tigi tiswa 600M.
Hallina Dr. Gonzi
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:54
... and you know how much PL spent! or better you couldn't care less because even if PL did not put a single bilboard you would still vote them because that is what you where raised to do!
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:06
It is easy to see who is speaking the truth; Joseph Muscat is promising heaven on earth to everyone in order to win votes. Gonzi is saying the truth even though this might cost him votes! Why? Simple, one is honest and responsible, the other one has a proven track record of always being wrong, and it seems he does not mind adding another achievement in that record!
W. Cassar
Jan 11th, 14:06
Yes honest and responsible just like when he mentioned the large Brazil company of 4 people and gave himself a raise while we paid higher fuel rates.
Hallini! Inti paroli fil vojt ghandek!
Joe Fenech
Jan 11th, 14:39
True That My Friend !
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:00
Malta has a very clear choice; between a responsible leader – Gonzi, OR an irresponsible proven to be always wrong leader – Joseph Muscat!
victor ellul
Jan 11th, 13:07
naqbel mieghek ..gonzi veru responsabli.....imma ta 6 miljuni dejn li ghabba lil malta
Mario Camilleri
Jan 11th, 13:15
@Joseph Aquilina,
So by your reasoning all the others including John Bencini, Tony Zahra and Michael Falzon (Perit) ex-pn amongst others businessmen are all irresponsible. Good one!!! Tidher li bl-istess mentalita!!
Irresponsible those who sent us personal signed letters stating that our jobs are secured and the first thing was a redundancy. That is IRRESPONSIBILITY, the irresponsible leader.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:57
@victor ellul; learn how modern countries are managed and then we talk again about the subject of deficit.
@Mario Camilleri; It has already been made very clear where the PL plan on energy is flawed. Indeed even those you mentioned agreed that PL energy plan is too optimistic. But hey, PL could have given you a blank paper and you would still believe they are the best option for Malta.
Mario Scicluna
Jan 11th, 13:57
@Joseph Aquilina
Tant kien ''irresponsible proven to be always wrong leader'' Joseph Muscat, li lil Lawrence Gonzi dejjem tah tkaxkira nobis il-hames darbiet li gie mistoqsi l-elettorat sabiex jivvota tul kemm ilu JM imexxi l-PL!
Huma propju nies bhalek li jiziraw il-firda fost il-poplu u jkesksu sabiex titmexxa kampanja ta' gideb u hmieg fuq il-persuna u mhux fuq l-argument. Imissek tisthi!
Mario Scicluna
Jan 11th, 14:50
@Joseph Aquilina
Tant kien ''irresponsible proven to be always wrong leader'' Joseph Muscat, li lil Lawrence Gonzi dejjem tah tkaxkira nobis il-hames darbiet li gie mistoqsi l-elettorat sabiex jivvota tul kemm ilu JM imexxi l-PL!
Huma propju nies bhalek li jiziraw il-firda fost il-poplu u jkesksu sabiex titmexxa kampanja ta' gideb u hmieg fuq il-persuna u mhux fuq l-argument. Imissek tisthi!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:59
Lill- Bdiewa ghidtilhjom meta se jispiccaw is-sussidji li qed jiehdu sa llum ?
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:07
Thanks to being in the EU (which Joseph Muscat was so much against) the Farmers in Malta will benefit from EU funds!
f fiott
Jan 11th, 13:40
lil kien ghalik il bdiewa ma hadu xejn daqs kemm kont kontra lewropa
f fiott
Jan 11th, 14:25
li kien ghalik sur privitera il bdiewa ma hadux sussidji daqs kemm kont kontra lewropa
Paul Meilak
Jan 11th, 14:37
Eddy, taht gvern laburista, il-prodotti agrikoli intremew fit-triq ! Kellhom suq hazin totali.
S Vella
Jan 11th, 15:01
Issa l-bdiewa tghidx x'jesportaw tal qara twil.
HALLUWNA!!
Gonzi bit tadam f'idu u l-abbatini jitbissmu warajh......xi hlew :)
Eve Axiaq
Jan 11th, 12:55
Jista xi hadd minn ta Gonzipn jghid ghaliex qatt m'ghaddew il-ligi tal-fondi tal partit? Mhux ghax ma kellhomx zmien zgur.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:13
Because they were too busy making sure that Malta had a strong economy, that Malta had plenty of jobs, that Maltese had a good standard of living! What has lejber to show for these last five years? NOTHING! Or better, one bad advice after the other! In the next election we have to be honest and select between a credible leadership, and one that did not get one thing right in these last 40years!
Eve Axiaq
Jan 11th, 13:59
@ Aguilina
They were busy getting the 500 euro increase too and paying BWSC in advance. A strong economy when we have 6 billion debt, when government sold 90% of gold reserves to try to make some good to the ever growing deficit. And Smart city......
Paul Micallef
Jan 11th, 14:13
@Aquilina
Int xi diretur siehbi??? jigi ghalik id-driver??? kollox bxejn jaqaw??? ghandek xi perkacci??? Rahaslek it-taxxa??? Xi tridu jaghamel il-PL mil oppozzizjoni hi??? Lanqas ID card ma kien kappaci ibbidel biex jaqbel mal PL, xtippretendu??? Anka shabek stess daru kontra GONZI AND co, ma nafx kif dan ma tarahx, il-gvern tal PN gie imwaqqa minn NAZZJONALIST siehbi, mhux mill MINTOFFJANI hi.
S Vella
Jan 11th, 14:54
@ Joseph Aquilina
You mean busy giving himself and the oligarchy a double wage of €600 per week which he then changed to €500 weekly from behind everyone's back!
So many good things "U WAQA L-GVERN"...Ask Franco Debono!
25 years is more than enough if he wanted to introduce the law but he didnt was to move still muddy water. He did not want unveil his contributorsor punto e basta!
Simon Farrugia
Jan 11th, 12:53
The energy issue - Enough said. Argument exhausted.
ENERGY:- PL 1 - PN 0
Until such time that the PN counter- provides us with its energy proposals, PL, can we move on to the next issue please?
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:08
If you watch PL media yes, if you watch independent media, Joseph Muscat now saying he will still consider a gas pipeline (after waisting money on the tankers), the fact that the plan leaks water from all sides ... I do not really think you are right!
W. Cassar
Jan 11th, 14:03
Joseph Aquilina
Do you know how much more we will be spending if we don't use ships and WAIT 8 -10 years for the pipeline? What is the problem when we already use ships for fuel, .... it is clear that this will not be wasting money, as it will be recouped through the savings made.
brian spiteri
Jan 11th, 14:28
@ j aquilina
Min hi din il media indipendenti li qed tirreferi ghaliha int? In net? Il 101? Bondiplus? Ghall informazzjoni ta gonzipn supporters dan il pjan gie imfassal fost ohrajn minn nazzjonalisti imxebba mill hnizrijiet ta dan il gvern, kif ukoll min esperti barranin u ohrajn lokali fil qasam ta l energija. Meta tkun fil p.n. tkun tajjeb anke jekk tkun l ikbar hmar, meta titlaq issir injoran
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:30
Joseph, he will build the pipeline which will be funded by the EU. the tankers will not be bought because we will use the same ones which transport the HFO. PN is really "misunderstanding" the argument.
Simon Farrugia
Jan 11th, 14:47
If you watch PL media yes, if you watch PN media you get confused cos PN is saying that PL's proposal is not doable, than it says that PN is committed to reduce tariffs......
And to tell you the truth I think that it is the PN's past track record and the state of our family pockets under this administration that is leaking water from all sides.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 12:52
Gonzi should know that there is no party financing law because he did his best to pretend he wants it but never got round to enacting it. So now it is convenient to make these silly allegations. In any case, since there is no party financing law, is it illegal for a company to sponsor a party's campaign? If Gonzi were honest, he should tell us who his party donors are.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 12:50
The PM is misleading because the pipeline is on the cards already but will take many years to complete while building the new station will take only a couple of years. Does Gonzi want to condemn us paying his exorbitant tariffs for the next 20 years? As for LP funds, I do not expect a serious politician to make such silly allegations - but then we know he is desperate.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:42
Far from silly allegations......the truth will somehow come to the surface. These mysterious private investors will not remain a mystery.....unless Labour loses out again in the next election.
If Labour win, we will see who is behind this "investment"
Mario Camilleri
Jan 11th, 12:49
Gonzi suppost jaf kemm hemm kuntratti moħbija li l-poplu skont hu u Tonio ma nistgħux naraw u sal-lum għadna ma rajnix dejjem bl-iskuża għax ta' natura kummerċjali. Allura kif illum li huwa gvern 'caretaker' qed jitlob bi dritt li jara li jrid hu??? Dan min hu??? Issa jkollu jistenna u jara u jitgħallem kif tmexxi f'isem il-poplu u mhux titmellaħ bil-poplu.
Gonzi wasal għal ġudizzju.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:58
Mario: GonziPN lanqas IL-KONTIJIET TAL-PARTIT TAGHHOM ma jippublikaw. Imma kurjuzi hafna biex ikunu jafu kull punt u virgola tal-istudji li saru, minkejja li l-PL KIXEF kwazi kollox, hlief dawk id-dettalji li importaanti jibqghu mhux mikxufa halli gvern laburista ma jikxifx idejh qabel jibda jinnegozja mal-kumpaniji interessati !
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:06
How do you know of hidden contracts if they are hidden? Or are these only allegatons and mud throwing, the per-usual of lejber!
Mario Camilleri
Jan 11th, 13:46
@Joseph Aquilina,
Ħażin jekk m'hemmx kuntratti għax sa fejn naf jien u l-Maltin kollha dejjem irid isir kuntrat fejn jidħol bejgħ ta' propjeta u jekk int ma tafx li hemm il-kuntratti allura qed tgħix fuq xi iżola!!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:49
All of a sudden Dr. Gonzi has changed tune , once again ! Two days ago he stated that he " was committed to lower W&E bills. Today he says that he wants the "lowest possible tariffs, but they have to be sustainable" So it follows, that according to Gonzi, today we have "the lowest possible tariffs". HENCE GONZI WILL NOT BE LOWERING W&E BILLS, as he stated in Brussels 2 days ago !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joseph Portelli
Jan 11th, 12:54
nissuggerixxi lill-Prim Ministru Joseph Muscat jaghmlek Ministru tal-Unjoni Ewropea!
twanny borg
Jan 11th, 12:57
X'int thawwad eddy?
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:03
Lower YES, Eddie, but being responsible, Gonzi is making it very clear that there is a limit of how much the price per unit can be reduced in order not to undermine the whole country. On the other hand Joseph Muscat seems to be coming from Fantasy World, promising all to everyone in a very irresponsible way! All this just to be PM!
joseph borg st john
Jan 11th, 13:48
Eddy kemm int bravu f kollox tifem qisek arkivju meravilja.
Peter Zahra
Jan 11th, 12:49
Dr Toni Abela on Bondi+ yesterday confirmed that the LP's proposal on reducing tariffs is just an electoral gimmick. I would dare say it is similar to a "scam" as such when various e mails & Msg are sent at random stating that you have won a lottery or inherited millions of euros !! The LP is just interested in obtaining votes and then if elected, "il froga f taxxi jigu taghna llkoll !!!!
Eve Axiaq
Jan 11th, 13:00
Bondi kullhadd jaf kemm hu bniedem imparzjali u huwa fatt maghruf. Jien insaqsi jekk forsi Simon kienx jaf bil-mistoqsijiet li se jsiru. Qeda nsaqsi biss.
Toni Abela madankollu irnexxilu jissupera.
Bondi postu huwa fuq in-net.
C Muscat
Jan 11th, 13:08
Possibli ma indunajtx li Bondi ma kien jistaqsi imma jiddibatti b mod insidjuz. Dawk il-mistoqsijiet teknici u kull darba (nahseb iktar minn 100 darba) qal qabel jew wara l-elezzjoni lil toni imma lil simon ma qal xejn x hin qal li ghad iridu johorgu taghhom.
Jien nippreferi niehyu cans biex flok 1800+ euro taht Gonzi nibda inhallas 1400 euro.
PN hallsu x 3 fuq mater dei over budget
Peter Zahra
Jan 11th, 13:22
@ Eve Axiaq
If not mistaken it was Dr Toni Abela who evaded the questions and did not reply the various questions put out by Lou Bondi(who is a journalist) and Dr Simon Busuttil !!. I have serious doubts that you have not seen the programm itself, when you state that Dr Toni Abela was superior to Simon !!! If so, I think there could be some serious problem in your reasoning then......
W. Cassar
Jan 11th, 13:55
Sorry I stopped reading at Bondi+
Simon Farrugia
Jan 11th, 12:46
Party financing? Please ask Franco Debono.
Kenneth Williams
Jan 11th, 12:46
Izjed ma titkellmu fuq il pjan ta PL l energija izjed turu kemm qedghin fi stat ta paniku....Kellkhom zmien bizzejjed biex tghamlu li kien hemm bzonn imma hlejtu l hin...issa wasaltu f lahhar hadd ma ghadu jemminkhom u qedghin taqdu lill media kollha biex iddawwar il kanuni fuq mil PL. Mhux bizzejjed ilkhom mil 1999 biex tistudjaw il pipeline tal gass issa giet l ghaggla. Isthu jekk tafu!!!
D Mifsud
Jan 11th, 12:45
Its incredible that PN plays the expert in the Energy field after the mess it did in 25 yrs and the 800 million debt of Enemalta. The opposition has the benefit of the doubt with its proposals while the Govt has proved itself as a complete failure in this area. (among others)
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:44
Jihn Bonello should replace Tonio Fenech. He is obviously used to the procrastination of GonziPN and hence is using the same yardstick ! Malta cannot wait any longer. GonziPN has been in office more than enough and has not solved the energy problem. Instead it has continued to enlarge the problem. IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE OF A TIRED & GROSSLY INEFFICIENT CREW !
twanny borg
Jan 11th, 13:09
Taf kemm kienet tissolva taht il-pl ghax konna nispiccaw bla power stations u konsegwentament bla dawl. Hallina!!
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:44
yeah....same words as in 1996....that time it was taxation.
VAT removal = LP victory = 33 new taxes to replace VAT.
And now.....without scientific reports, who can trust Labour (other than die-hards like Mr.Privitera)
joseph borg st john
Jan 11th, 13:58
Eddy intom maghlajr issolvuwa il problema tal energija ghax titfu lil Malta kolla kif kontu taghmlu tiftakar?
Giocchino Attard
Jan 11th, 14:06
Eddy Jiena ma nafikx personali imma prosit kemm taf ittiehom fuq rashom dawn l istess nofs tuzzana nazzjonalisti.
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 15:32
Eddie your only saying this because you have no answers to my logic, like I said I have experience in all this but you don’t, your only used to repeat the gloom and doom your party leader predicted so much. Just listen to you repeating the same thing from super one, your lack of knowledge and poor judgment is enough to convince me that you have no idea on this issue alone.
Henry J Bonett
Jan 11th, 12:41
One thing is certain. Konrad Mizzi has come out as a real professional who speaks with the ease of authority. All PN spokesmen have come out as pathetic amateurs with a daunting amount of fiddling technical detail.
And about funds, It takes one to know one. What cheek!
joseph borg st john
Jan 11th, 14:03
Int bis serjeta Konrad Mizzi hesterical theatrical and amusing yes.
Joe Borg (Senior)
Jan 11th, 12:40
Gonzi asks why Labour chose ships over pipeline
.. semplici .. ghax biex nistennew pipeline tal-gas ikollna nistennew xi 6~7snin ohra .. kieku haseb ghaliha qabel forsi. GonziPN kienu rieqdin w ghamlu power station bl-iktar zejt li jnigges w issa qed jargumentaw fuq il-gas .. ara veru trid ikollok wiccek joqod!!
M Micallef
Jan 11th, 12:45
u l vapuri kemm se jdumu mela?
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:52
M. mIcallef Int mela blajt il-hrafa li biex ingibu l-gas bil-vapuri rridu nixtru jew nibnu t-tankers ???????????
Biex ingibu z-zejt u l-fuel x'naghmlu, ingibuhom bl.ajruplani , jew ?
George Cremona
Jan 11th, 12:53
Raguni wahd biss hemm ghall-ghazla tal-PL, raguni li tintenn pesta. Bdew jintnu mill-lum li ghadhom fl-Oppozizzjoni ahseb u ara la jkunu fil-gvern. X'hasbuna tal-PL, xi qabda bciecen u mzazen. Kemm ghadu zghir Joseph Muscat biex jghaddina bid-dghajsa.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 12:54
Il-vapuri tikrihom f'haqqa ta ghajn. Bhalissa hawn hafna vapuri qeda u sidhom jiaqbzu fuqek kif turi l-icken interess f'xi krija.
Joe Borg (Senior)
Jan 11th, 14:05
@M Micallef .. ara vera jbellawlek kollox biex blajt tal-vapuri .. mela zejt tal-BWSC biex qed jigi??
Joe Borg (Senior)
Jan 11th, 14:05
@George Cremona .. sour grapes
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:34
M Micallef, how do you think we transport oil right now? sending them by e-mails? we will use the same tankers which are currently transporting the oil right now. whats the difference? both are liquid oils
Kenneth Williams
Jan 11th, 12:40
Kemm xtaqna naraw dokumenti fi zmien li ghadda imma bir riha taghhom bqajna. Insejtu meta talbuh lil Austin Gatt u qalilhom li mhux obligat li jirrispondi ghax ghandu HAMSA maggoranza. X'ARROGANZA
P Micallef
Jan 11th, 12:39
Its all your fault. You should have enacted the Party's Funding legislation pushed so strongly by Franco Debono.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 12:56
The PN strategy is now obvious: pretend you want a party financing law, do nothing about it and then accuse Labour of obtaining funds from foreign sponsors. This guy's cheek is limitless.Come on, Gonzi, publish the list of donors of your party in the last five years.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:45
Do you think that would have exposed these private investors? In your dreams!
Alex Ellul
Jan 11th, 12:39
and we are still waiting for the price of gas that the PL's consultants had based all their workings on. AFAIK, gas is more expensive than HFO, so I do not see how the price of electricity can be reduced by 25%. The only real, already achieved milestone is the reduction of power from the Marsa PS, resulting in savings of millions a month. This can already be passed on to the consumers...
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:54
Alex Ellul: Kieku dak li ktibt int kien veru, kieku allura ghax ma qalux Gonzi jew Tonio Fenech ??? Ghaliex Gonzi kien qal li rohs fil-kontijiet KIEN IMPOSSIBBI ? Jew ma kontx smajtu dak in-nhar f'dibattitu ma Dr. Muscat ?
Wenzu Cole
Jan 11th, 12:37
Where have the Fenech Adami advisors vanished. Since the campaign started, every time Gonzi or Simon opened their mouth they managed to shoot multiple rounds in their foot.
On another note his claim can also mean that he is know very worried that the contractors that fund his party will now have fair competition and not a monopoly on all government projects.
John L Galea
Jan 11th, 12:37
Gonzi up to now you didn't come up with one simple proposal yet!!! Up to now what you did was trying to scaremonger people with PL.
What a lame politician you are. No ideas. No plans. Nothing at all.
Tell us why shipd transport HFO? Tell us HOW? WHEN? BY HOW MUCH? you will reduce energy tariffs as you stated in Berlin.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:48
@John Galea....
Gonzi's record in Education, Employment, Health, Financial services etc. speaks for itself.
As for energy, proposals are there and tangible:
Interconnector in March 2014
Gas Pipeline (when EU funds are available. EU budget due in 2015).
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:35
PT6. including feasibility studies, an international call for expressions of interest followed by a proper call for tenders, evaluation and negotiations and a final decision on the bidder. there is plenty more of flaws in this proposal alone which most of you who are not experience with this type of operations are not aware of but if the MLP mange to sway the voters and win the election
John Attard
Jan 11th, 12:34
Your hinting a done deal between Labour party and an energy company but at the same time your stating that it is impossible that any private company would go for this investment!!! I cannot understand which part of your talk i have to believe. !!!!!
V. DeBono
Jan 11th, 12:34
Just because the industry is not helping you out any more, it doesn't mean its helping PL. Even if it was, well, I guess you'll never know. Party financing legislation was irrelevant.
Besides, at this point, we're not even interested about your energy suggestions...you had plenty of time...dismissed .
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:34
PT5. I have to pay twice as much in tax to sustain the investor’s losses and in that way I will be paying for others consumption. No thanks Eddie but MLP proposal don’t work my profession in this subject helps me understand that the only way forward is the PN proposals. A project of this size normally has various stages
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:34
PT4. On-going in other countries. In this situation the government will always give in to the investors. While it is true that the price for the unit will remain fixed at 9c6 for the next 10 years, the tax payers will have to make up for the increase in gas prices on the international market at that means the 25% reduction on my utility bills
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:33
PT2.The PN introduced the subsidies for household to install the PV panels and solar water heaters. What the PM said is that as it is now it’s impossible to reduce the prices for the tariffs but work is under way so we can control these prices the best we can. In my opinion the scope of fuel operation is the same for both parties it’s the timeframe, the operation and the building of a new PS
Joe Borg (Senior)
Jan 11th, 12:41
X'inhu end result .. Enemalta falluta .. skemmi ta PV lli ma hadmux (<1% renewable energy)
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 12:58
The PN also intriduced 30,000 vouchers to poor families who cannot afford to pay their W&E bills - is that not shameful to have so many poor families in a Malta doing so weel that Merkel is simply amazed?
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:49
@Andrew Camilleri....If this for you is Poverty, then long live this poverty!
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:33
PT1.The PN government took the entire necessary step to reduce and control the utilities tariffs. It took the initiatives into conducting these studies after the PN was elected in 2008. It took the initiatives to install the interconnector to connect Malta with the EU grid line, it applied for the EU funds to finance the pipe line which is more reliable the shipping LNG.
Matt Ellul
Jan 11th, 12:29
Kif spicca GonziPN... imma meta gejjin dawk l- weghdi Gonz? Mohhok fil- LP !
m. borg (slm)
Jan 11th, 12:29
"He did not want to see Malta suffer like Greece and Cyprus"
That is why on 10th March you'll be in opposition Mr gonzi.
Carmel Borg
Jan 11th, 13:16
Do you forget that dear Joseph, 2 years ago told LG that he does know nothing about economics and should learn from Cyprus' PM? Now, where do we stand? Much better off not just from Cyprus and Greece, but Italy, Spain and other larger countries which has their own natural resouces.
But then you don't respect Merkel's comments as they sound distorted to you.
K Borg
Jan 11th, 12:27
Dr Gonzi first answer the following:
1. Why did you choose heavy fuel oil?
2. Why you gave yourself a 500eur increase per week?
3. Why did you choose Austin and Richard instead of a Franco and Jeoffrey?
4. Why did you choose BWSC?
and so on ...
I lost faith in your leadership. Makespace for better persons in your party.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:50
Franco and Jeffrey? better???
You must be a die-hard labourite!! to say that
N. Aquilina
Jan 11th, 16:59
I would go further and ask Dr. Gonzi why did you change the tendering conditions in the middle of the process from Gas to HFO? Insaqsuh ukoll biex wara li xeba jghajjar lil PL li ghandu proposti fantazma, jghidilna ftit fejn huma il proposti tieghu, ghodda ghaddiet l ewwel gighma tal Kampanja u dawn il proposti tal PN lanqas xamma taghhom m ghandna, forsi qeghdin in the PIPELINE pun intended
daniel farrugia
Jan 11th, 12:27
1 million already spent in the campaign ??? thats why they calculated the labour proposal to cost 600 million ! kemm jara kbirr....
m. borg (slm)
Jan 11th, 12:27
The same way I ask gonzi:
"Why did you chose ships for the transport of HFO ?"
Alex Ellul
Jan 11th, 12:36
@m. borg: because there's a biiiiiiig difference between liquid fuels and gaseous ones. Liquid fuels are easilt transportable and transferable. Gas has its risks and costs of pressurisation/liquification for ship transport, ship to shore and shor to ship transfers, regasification etc. I think you need to read a book or two about the subject.
Adrian Agius
Jan 11th, 12:42
Are you living in Malta or elsewhere in space ??
Funds for a gas pipeline to Sicily are already available, and that comes cheaper than building three ships.
Sakemm mhux se jaghmel xi Malta Shipbuilding ohra :))
Warren Griscti
Jan 11th, 12:57
Adrian agius jahasra inti jekk tamel pool tibni bowser ? Sa fejn naf jien gonzi qal nittama li jtuna il fondi leu ax bix tkun taf adu pre application
Adrian Agius
Jan 11th, 14:18
Sur Warren Griscti, jaqaw il-pool tieghek timlija darba fil-gimgha ? lol
Il-vapuri bil gas gejjin u sejrin se joqghodu. Dazgur li Gonzi jittama, ghax Muscat ma jirnexxilux igibhom "jekk il-poplu jtih il-fiducja" lol
Giocchino Attard
Jan 11th, 14:25
usually when you buy something you get free delivery.
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:38
@ Alex ellul. LNG stands for = LIQUIFIED natural gas. they are both liquids (after pressurization)
Vince Piscopo
Jan 11th, 15:20
Mr Ellul since you seem to be an expert in the field does it sound feasible to you to buy an Arriva bus to take you to Valletta? Does it seem feasible to you to leave various businesses and families from enjoying a reduction in energy tariffs which gives a boost to our economy and creates/sustains jobs? Does it sound feasible to wait for the pipeline and until then see Enemalta down to pieces?
N. Aquilina
Jan 11th, 16:55
Mr. Agius, int meta tmur il belt bl Arriva tixtri il karozza jew thallas in noll tat trasport? L istess haga ha jghamel il PL ihallas it trasport, din li il PL irid jonfoq il miljuni biex jixtri il vapuri hija hmerija ta Tonio Fenech anke profs. Mallia irredikolah. Fuq il funds ghandek zball, il bierah Simon qal fuq Bondi+ li jispera li l EU tiffinanzja parti mil progett, s'issa m hemmx certezza
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:25
Gonzi: Why don't you first pubkish the JS LIST on which are the donors of donatiions to GonziPN FIRST ? Billi qed tiprrova thammeg lil PL bil-hmieg li hu mhammeg bih GonziPN, mhux se jirnexxilek ghax il-PL DEJJEM jippublika l-kontijiet tieghu. Izda GonziPN QATT !
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 13:10
PL could have moved forward a law in parliament but never did it; why? The government has the excuse of having been too busy making sure Malta had a strong economy? What does lejber has to show for these 5 years? ... a plan that leaks water from all sides!!?
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:51
and you expect us to believe that!
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 13:51
why do we have to publish this & that first, if MLP proposal is feasable then why play child games showm me yours & i show you mine. It a national issue and the Maltese people need to know what they're voting for, it's our god given right to know what we're voting for & noboady have the right to say otherwise & the Maltese people should refrain from voting MLP is they fail to publish the reports
Joseph Borg
Jan 11th, 14:21
@ Joseph Aquilina
int bis serjeta??? din arroganza grassa
issa beda jehel l labour li mil oppozizjoni ghax certa ligijiet ma sarux!!
come on, get a life siehbi
sa fejn naf jien hija responsabilta tal gvern prezenti li jaddu l ligijiet li hemm bzonn
jien bhala floater nies bhalek jgeluni nivvota PL.
il bierah Dr Muscat fid diskors tieghu kien kollu fil pozittiv
tisma lil Dr Busuttil bil kontra
N. Aquilina
Jan 11th, 16:51
John, are you serious man? Where were you when the people demanded to know what was in the BWSC contract and the St Philips deal? Ma staqsejtux lil Gonzi biex jurihomlok halli umbaghad abbazi ta dawn tara tivvutalux? Ara veru l ispizjar milli ikollu itik!
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 17:56
@N aquilina,
if that is incorrect for you than why do you want to change if your embracing the same type of attitude.
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:25
PT7. than you all learn about them as you’ll be paying the price, but once we move in that direction there is no turning back wheatear its feasible or not, and given the way the MLP is presenting this proposal to us with all these hidden secrets one should ask if all this risks involved are worth it, if it worth loosing what we gained for a vote catching proposal
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:25
PT7. than you all learn about them as you’ll be paying the price, but once we move in that direction there is no turning back wheatear its feasible or not, and given the way the MLP is presenting this proposal to us with all these hidden secrets one should ask if all this risks involved are worth it, if it worth loosing what we gained for a vote catching proposal
pat muscat
Jan 11th, 12:22
Dalwaqt isaqsi lil Dr muscat jekk: il-pipes tal-pipeline humiex tondi,jekk jilleakjawx, u bhal Bond+ kemm se iqumu kull pulzier! Jekk Muscat ma jirrispondix ghal kemm se iqumu l-pipes kull pulzier; allura l-progett mhux tajjeb! lol!
M. Spiteri
Jan 11th, 12:22
well researched Dr. gonzi. another 2 months and we'll get rid of you at last.
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:22
PT6. including feasibility studies, an international call for expressions of interest followed by a proper call for tenders, evaluation and negotiations and a final decision on the bidder. there is plenty more of flaws in this proposal alone which most of you who are not experience with this type of operations are not aware of but if the MLP mange to sway the voters and win the election
Simon Farrugia
Jan 11th, 12:21
Now that we have PL's proposals, can we have yours, dear prime minister? Or should we keep our focus on PL so that you remain in your hiding. PL is convincing, you are not. But after all this is your way of doing politics, and it has now grown old, stagnant and pathetic.
N. Aquilina
Jan 11th, 16:47
Simon dawn in nies ma jafux jisthu ta! Kemm ilhom jghidu biex il PL johrog il proposti biex taghhom ghadhom lanqas huma lesti, kemm kien hawn cwielaq jghidu li il labour ghandu proposti fantazma, tal PN fejhom issa? Kif dawn l istess nies mhux qed jesigu li il PN johrog il proposti ukoll? Kif il prezentaturi "imparzjali" tal WE mhux qed isaqsu dawn id domandi? Two weights,two measures anyone?
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:21
PT5. I have to pay twice as much in tax to sustain the investor’s losses and in that way I will be paying for others consumption. No thanks Eddie but MLP proposal don’t work my profession in this subject helps me understand that the only way forward is the PN proposals. A project of this size normally has various stages
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:20
PT4. on-going in other countries. In this situation the government will always give in to the investors. While it is true that the price for the unit will remain fixed at 9c6 for the next 10 years, the tax payers will have to make up for the increase in gas prices on the international market at that means the 25% reduction on my utility bills
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:39
John Bonello:Mela hsibt lil Muscat dghajjef bhal Gonzi ? Gonzi lanqas tarf tal-partit tieghu ma kellu, u beda jcedi lil kull min jiftah halqu !
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 13:47
Well what happen then if JM is not weak will he wage war against the investors when they start to demand more subsidies, where do you think this will lead us all, do you think that the foreign investors will be all patriotic and give us the fuel for the PS with losses, & more so if we end up hiring the tankers, if the investors stop the supply of fuel then what ???.
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 13:48
Your argument shows your poor judgment on this issue, like I said to you before I have a vast experience on this subject and for you to now I am currently writing this to you from Norway, I am commissioning a 6th generation drill ship. My opinion is based on past experience, and if you think with one generation plant we can make some wonder deals with investors you have another thing coming
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:20
PT3.which the PN disagree, include the involvement of the private investors, while this type of negotiations work in other countries unfortunately we only have 1 power company in Malta consider our size and if there is a dispute between the two operators and the investors decide to stop the power plants then the whole country will be in a financial mess and this type of disputes are all the time
Mr Lawrence Calleja
Jan 11th, 12:19
why Labour chose ships over pipeline: Forsi ghax ghadna nghixu fiz-zmien ta' Kristofru Kolombo.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 11th, 12:37
Lawrence Calleja: Inthom f'hiex iggibuh il-fuel , buil-pipeline jew bil-vapuri ? U taf kemm se jdum il-pipeline biex jitlesta , jekk jibda ??? Il-poplu xeba jhallas kiontijiet gholjin daqshekk, irid li tinstab is-soluzzjoni malajr kemm jista jkun. U l-PL DAK LI GHAMEL !
John L Galea
Jan 11th, 12:38
Forsi ghax int ma tifhimx. Forsi ghax il-pipeline baqalu 5 snin ohra mill-inqas. Forsi ghax temmen li jbellghulek.
C BONDIN
Jan 11th, 13:42
pff kemm hawn minn hu tad dahq. Proset ehh haha dak li jigrilek meta tara n net biss habieb
Mehdi Klein
Jan 11th, 12:19
why dont he ask himself on how to solve this issue quoted "the new station and its recent extension continues to run on heavy fuel oil. The EU fines Malta more than 1,000 euros (1,290 dollars) every day for continuing to rely on such fuel" Oxford Analytica..waste of money indeed
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:18
PT2.The PN introduced the subsidies for household to install the PV panels and solar water heaters. What the PM said is that as it is now it’s impossible to reduce the prices for the tariffs but work is under way so we can control these prices the best we can. In my opinion the scope of fuel operation is the same for both parties it’s the timeframe, the operation and the building of a new PS
Paul@ Micallef
Jan 11th, 12:18
The best answer to the above is given by Dr Franco Debono: "A party that has made a mess of the energy sector for years, polluting all the place and burdening enemalta with 800 million euros in debts, should run into hiding when the energy sector is mentioned. I will not even take note of their criticism – how can they criticise when they made such a mess." Other comments are superfluous.
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 12:18
PT1.The PN government took the entire necessary step to reduce and control the utilities tariffs. It took the initiatives into conducting these studies after the PN was elected in 2008. It took the initiatives to install the interconnector to connect Malta with the EU grid line, it applied for the EU funds to finance the pipe line which is more reliable the shipping LNG.
Mario Scicluna
Jan 11th, 12:17
Dear PM, you managed to ignore Onor Franco Debono's repeated call to legislate Party Funding and Financing through Parliament, always with some lame excuse or another! Franco Debono worked hard on the issue, and when he proposed it, GonziPN snubbed him and pushed him and what he proposed aside! Il fondi gew mill poplu LG, l-istess poplu li dhaqt bih ghax hadt €500 fil gimgha minn wara darhu!
Joe Borg (Senior)
Jan 11th, 12:17
Gonzi asks why Labour chose ships over pipeline
.. semplici .. ghax biex nistennew pipeline tal-gas ikollna nistennew xi 6~7snin ohra .. kieku haseb ghaliha qabel forsi. GonziPN kienu rieqdin w ghamlu power station bl-iktar zejt li jnigges w issa qed jargumentaw fuq il-gas .. ara veru trid ikollok wiccek joqod!!
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 11th, 12:14
Gonzi asks why Labour chose ships over pipeline ??
It's common sense ,Gonzi pn the pipeline , we do not know it the EU will give us the money for it
and if the EU give us the money still it will take from 7 to ? ? ? years
as I said >> common sense is not so common for Gonzi pn !!!
victor ellul
Jan 11th, 12:26
joe il bierah fuq bondi+ qal li l.pipe line se jkun lest sa sentejn' x.tahwid hux? ahjar jghamlua tixel bil punic flok HFO.
M Grima
Jan 11th, 12:13
Dr. Muscat has already answered the question about the usage of ships to transport the gas. The timeframes would not allow us to have the gas pipeline before his strategic date to lower the energy tariffs. But, in time it will be given its due consideration. He can rest assured that PL will not spend 25 years to study this option.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:52
yes, in the meantime....WE PAY!
N. Aquilina
Jan 11th, 16:37
Denis in the meantime you will pay cheaper rates, but judging from your comments I am wasting my time trying to tell you this as even if Labour covered Malta in gold you would still find something negative to say about them! Shows the poor mentality we have in Malta and that Joseph Muscat wants and will change!
Ian Spiteri
Jan 11th, 12:12
Gonzi's only doubting the project because it's feasible and possible. This is project is a way for this country. If not for commercial and energy purposes only,it's also important for health. Time-frame could be reached once we chop off the beuracracy,and process will run smoother.
As for the campaign expenses; well if Franco Debono WAS relevant to you, you could have known the answer more easily!
Joseph Bajada
Jan 11th, 12:12
Sour grapes Dr. Gonzi!
Joseph Micallef
Jan 11th, 12:12
Anzi ma jafx jisthi GonziPN. Ara naqra b'min hu mdawwar fil-filmat. Kollha ndaf u minghajr tebá. Joe Cassar, David Agius, Tony Abela... dan hu it-team li GonziPN irid joffrilna. GonziPN - NO THANK YOU! Malta jixirqilha ferm ahjar.
M Grima
Jan 11th, 12:10
The PL is getting the funds from a guy they found on the yellow pages. Dr. Gonzi is behaving like the proverbial guy who was clutching straws when he was drowning. Don't worry the Maltese voters will save him from the agony of bankrupting this country with a national debt of more than €6 BILLION, the chunk of which have been spent during his leadership.
Mr Mike Farrugia
Jan 11th, 12:10
"where Labour its getting its electoral campaign funds from"
Mela hekk isiru l-affarijiet? Jaqaw it-tenders jiffinanzjaw il-Partiti?
saviour frendo
Jan 11th, 13:07
Noooooo......Funds for the party are coming from coffee mornings. Remember?????? Goverment members of parliament on tv taking out stacks of money from inside pockets. All money gathered from coffee mornings.
Or what is good for the geese is not good for the gander?????????????
A Dimech
Jan 11th, 12:10
Is this man for real?
I mean, Franco Debono has been going on about having Party financ legislation and he ignored him!! Now he is complaining about PL spendign money?!!!
Or PL is sayign they will reduce tariffs, and he is saying they will raise them?!!!
I mean if he is so keen on a pipeline - could he not have done it in 25 years in power?!!!
It all defies logic!!
Byron Abela
Jan 11th, 12:10
Using cleaner techn and then polluting with ships makes no sense.
Warren Griscti
Jan 11th, 12:40
Using heavy fuel oil and then saying you are going to gas makes no sense at all by lg. Why not make gas the first time ? Oohhhh I know I smell a commission. At least PL has a project while PN has nothing because from 25 years it was this week he admitted prices can go down.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:56
Warren...if you followed the parliamentary discussions and read the reports, it is very obvious why.
The biggest issue was the price of electricity. Gas would have been even more expensive.
If JM is elected to power, he has no other way than to reduce tariffs. (just like removing VAT in 1996).
The obvious consequence would be to raise taxation,eg. increasing withholding tax on bank accounts.
joseph saliba
Jan 11th, 12:09
We are climbing up, which is so hard. Changing direction is easier. It means going/falling down. The country needs progress which does not lie in a change of direction. PL needs a change of direction maybe one day it will start taking off.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 11th, 12:09
GonziPN ma tistax tafdah ghaliex bhal ma kien jghid Eddie Fenech Adami, min iwieghed u ma jwettaqx, MA TISTAX TAFDAH. GonziPN pacpac hafna, wieghed hafna u wettaq ftit, u l-ftit li wettaq kien bil-kontra ta' dak li qal. Nappella li l-ex haddiema tal-GO, AIRMALTA, SEAMALTA, Trasport pubbliku ma jinsewx fid-9 ta' Marzu.
Warren Griscti
Jan 11th, 12:07
Bir rispett kollu ahjar jejdilna xha jamel hu ax ametta li jista jorhos imma in nies mumix cwiec kif ajjartuwom intom. It 2 jider bic car li lg ma rax il pjan ax qal bic car li il pipeline idum hafna bix isir u nahseb jaf hu stess ax ilu min 1999 li weduh.
john muscat
Jan 11th, 12:06
PL never said that a pipeline scheme would be abolished, but in the meantime ,ships must provide the gas required. It's no use saying false news as one lie after another makes one unbelieving what one says.It's no use criticising one another, but one must say what HE is going to do!
M Grima
Jan 11th, 12:04
What Cheek. It was Dr. Gonzi himself who is resisting the publication of his party's Income & Expenditure accounts where it concerns party financing, something which the PL is most willing to do. Maybe the PL is getting the funds from some benefactor who has been afforded some lucrative government contract. This guy is unbelievable, he thinks we are all morons who cannot think with our own minds.
Karl Abela
Jan 11th, 11:59
With ships its back to to medieval times.
Charles Cremona
Jan 11th, 12:06
Perhaps Cyprus Joe will resurect Sea Malta to transport the Gas, these people are living in a fantacy world.
M Grima
Jan 11th, 12:06
That's exactly how we get the Heavy Fuel oil for the Dellimara power station. By your own puerile reasoning GonziPN is living in medieval times. What a stupid comment.
Clayton Borg
Jan 11th, 12:09
Can you please enlighten me and tell me how does HFO gets delivered to Malta at the moment ?
Catherine Fenech
Jan 11th, 12:12
Int bis-serjeta???? Iz-zejt biex qed jigi....bl-ghasfur???? Mhux bil-vapuri ukoll.
Philip Borg
Jan 11th, 12:18
Such pathetic comment!
Ships nowadays are the safest and cheapest way to transport heavy and bulky cargo.
Besides that, this method will be used until the pipeline is ready, saving us precious time and money.
PB
pat muscat
Jan 11th, 12:18
Get a binocular Karl, go near M'scala and try to count the great number of red gas carriers anchored off the Hurd Bank, none carry sails Mr Abela .Indeed they are highly sophisticated refrigerated, and pressurized carriers!
M. Spiteri
Jan 11th, 12:20
looool. nice one Karl you must be very well informed about how we get our oil loll
M Busuttil
Jan 11th, 12:25
Hahahahaha iz zejt qed jigi bl istork :-)
Charles Cremona
Jan 11th, 14:39
To answer comments below: heavy fuel is easy to transport by conventional tanker, to transport large amounts of gas as required by a power station you have to build specialist ships that cost approx 200mill each, specialist terminals will have to be built. The Brits had to do all this recently were they built a massive terminal in west Wales to handle these specialist ships, it cost them billions
M Grima
Jan 11th, 15:38
@Charles Cremona
So according to your source or to your imagination there are currently no ships which carry gas and which can be leased. Hard to believe but then PN apologists live in a world where they actually believe that they are always right and everyone else is wrong. And your jibe about Cyprus Joe sounds very much like Irish Lawrence. Short memory!!!!
Charles Cremona
Jan 11th, 20:01
@M.Grima. No there is not many LNG gas carriers for lease out there as it happens, the reason for the Cyprus Joe is because Joe always admired and wanted to copy Cyprus and the economy there which is now of course bankrupt and is so bad that the Germans said today they are unlikely to lend any money unless they change their ways, see report in yesterdays Der Spiegec
W. Cassar
Jan 11th, 11:58
"He also continued to criticise Labour's energy plan and said it was a mystery how Labour had opted for a process - including the transportation of gas by ships - when other options such as a pipeline were cheaper."
I think the answer has been said over and over before... gas pipe takes a long time to build. I heard Muscat say today he is not against the idea but the time frames involved.
Mr Duncan Scerri
Jan 11th, 12:08
One also needs to bear in mind that with a pipeline one is restricted to a degree on the source of the purchase. Whereas with marine transportation of the resource, there is greater flexibility in where one purchases gas from.
Raisa Marie Garcia
Jan 11th, 12:19
and what's the rush??
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:44
@W.Cassar - I am sure you heard about the Maltese saying li l-irhis huwa ghali.
While the project is ambitious and worth discussing I would certainly not implement it as is. Ambitious projects should be discussed properly rather than being fait acompli.
Daniel Vella
Jan 11th, 11:58
Dr Gonzi i am sure PL chose ships over pipeline for the same reason you chose buses over underground in the public transport saga. For the same reason you chose engineered landfill over incineration of organic and non-recyclable garbage in the waste saga. Because ships are easier and cheaper to implement than a pipe-line at this stage. And a pipe-line can still be implemented after if costeffectiv
Paul Meilak
Jan 11th, 12:06
The pipeline is much cheaper as it will be funded by the EU !
M Busuttil
Jan 11th, 12:24
F liema sena se jkun lest dan il pipeline imma?
Daniel Vella
Jan 11th, 12:40
@ Paul Meilak - Granted ..... but who said the ships would need to be purchased? Do you buy a van to have the items you bought online delivered?
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:40
Paul Meilak, its true, but with just 1 pipe we will run a great risk. what if something happens to this pipe? what if we have a quarrel with italy? what if the price in italy goes high? what if italy goes to war?
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 14:41
I don't think ships are cheaper than pipeline. All you need is a strike by GWU at the port to halt all gas coming into Malta.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 11th, 11:58
Wouldn't it be better if you start worrying about the national debt which was made by YOU and for which WE will be paying? As usual, GonziPN puts priorities upside down! The more GonziPN speaks, the more rubbish and non-sense emerge. GonziPN, take care of your own business. We want to know HOW, WHEN and BY HOW MUCH your tariffs will be lowered. Till then, MINIX SE NAFDAK!! INTI DHAQT BINA!!
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 11th, 12:15
Ghandek ragun tghid li Gonzi dahaq bik ghax ilek thallas austerita li fallejt. Mela kulhadd jghid kemm Malta sejra tajjeb u wiehed bhalek jghid li Malta falluta. Id dejn jisplodi bil proposti tal lejber ghax ma ghandux idea fejn sejjer. Cocopardo qal il verita u jemmen fil progett tal lejber jekk jispjegaw aktar fid dettal imma din hija kolla fantasija ta Muscat.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 11th, 11:55
GonziPN is worried about PL's funding. Mela telqukom xi negozji li kienu jghinukom qabel GonziPN? Forsi anke dawn imexbbajn minkom u issa qeghdin tinkwetaw li m'ghandkomx biex tiffinanzjaw il-kapmpanja taghkom? Wara li kissirtu pajjiz finanzjarjament, issa kissirtu partit ukoll? Farrakt partit nazzjonalista Gonzi. Dak ic-certifikat li ghandek! Iktar kemm twarrab malajr, iktar ahjar.
anton cassar
Jan 11th, 12:22
Joseph ilqat il-musmar fuq rasu ghax hekk hu.....L-unika wiehed li ghadu jtihom hu Zaren !!!
John L Galea
Jan 11th, 12:42
GonziPN qed tweggghu zaqqu ghax il-PL ghandu l-fondi. Ma kollox se jipprova jaqbad. JHuri kemm Gonzi hu ddisprat bl-ikrah ghax hadd mhu qed jemmnu hlief 4 msieken li jibilghu kollox.
joe muscat
Jan 11th, 11:55
saying it must have already spent €1m in the campaign.......kemm jara kbir
C Falzon
Jan 11th, 11:55
Minghand dak tal yellow pages GonziPaNic nahseb!!! Tkomplux thawdu imhuh.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 11th, 11:53
Dear GonziPN, why are the ships worrying so much? Why are you so fond of the pipeline of gas? It seems that you are so fond since the pipeline connects us with europe. LoooL as if you are trying to give the impression that we can drive and walk through the pipe to go to Sicily. Hallina GonziPN, MINIX SE NERGA NAFDAK. May I humbly suggest to SHUTUP. You might loose less votes!
Chris Mifsud
Jan 11th, 12:24
How about the fact that the EU will most likely be paying for the gas pipeline ? Or did you convienentely forget that ?
A Vella
Jan 11th, 12:27
Undecided Voter, this is the type person you will associated with if you vote Joseph2013. Good luck.
A Vella
Jan 11th, 12:27
Undecided Voter, this is the type person you will associated with if you vote Joseph2013. Good luck.
W. Cassar
Jan 11th, 12:36
@ A Vella
I don't care about associations its policies and plans that count, we should not put politics on the same level as supporting a football team.
John L Galea
Jan 11th, 12:40
@C. Mifsud: The EU paying for the pipeline is a supposition yet, but we hope it will be so.
Joseph Galea
Jan 11th, 11:53
Ghaliex m' ghamiltiex inti mil-ewwel mela, jekk dejjem qed tghid il-verita?
Issa too late! Ieqaf ibki!
Imnalla kien l-MLP kif thobbu ssejhulu li caqlaq l-energija fil-pajjiz ghax kieku thalla kollox rieqed.
U min irid jitkellem min kullhadd? Il-Ministru tas-suppost energija? U halluna ghax issa qed tiedhqu wisq bl-inteligenza tal-poplu Malti u Ghawdxi!
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 13:59
issa l-lejber iccaqlaq l-Energija....u tkun taf. L-aqwa li jkun fil-Gvern.
Anton Attard
Jan 11th, 11:52
That's a nice comment Dr. Gonzi - very relevant to the people behind you.
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