Updated: PL defends its energy plan
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The front man for Labour’s energy plan this afternoon defended every aspect of the plan and said that Minister Tonio Fenech’s statements earlier today reflected his incompetence on the subject.
Giving a presentation in reaction to the minister’s press conference, Konrad Mizzi, who is also a Labour candidate, said that the Dutch consultants who drew up the costings of the infrastructural projects used international standards to arrive at their figures.
On the 10-year power purchase agreement, he said the minister did not know what he was talking about when he spoke of hedging. In the gas industry 10-year gas supply agreements through which the purchase of a fixed volume of gas would be guaranteed, were industry practice.
When asked to specify where such agreements existed he said these were found all around Europe including in the UK.
Constantly questioned on how realistic the timeframes Labour had given were, Dr Mizzi insisted one should not judge a future Labour government with the mediocre yardstick of the present administration.
He ridiculed the minister’s assertion that Enemalta or the private company would have to buy ships to deliver the gas. The company would be buying the gas from the supplier and then make shipping arrangements.
He quoted from comments by Prof. Edward Mallia on timesomalta.com in which Prof. Mallia said that the minister’s claim showed his incompetence in energy matters because in the Mediterranean there was enough spare capacity of ships that carried liquefied natural gas.
Dr Mizzi said the gas would be stored in two 20-metre diameter tanks each holding 30,000 cubic metres of gas. He insisted that this was not such a big thing and people in the south would prefer these to the tall chimney. They will also be getting cleaner air.
Asked whether this proposal presented by Labour came from Bateman, the company that had competed with BWSC for the Delimara extension, Dr Mizzi said it did not.
However, he claimed that in 2008 the government had received a report with a proposal that was similar to the PL’s, which the government for some reason ignored and decided to opt for heavy fuel oil. This was in spite of having taken a policy decision two years earlier to go for gas.
In terms of the gas pipeline, Dr Mizzi said that Malta only had a pre-application with the EU so this would not be coming in the short term.
He took umbrage at the minister’s claim that with the new power station the Labour Party was proposing, the country would have over-capacity.
The minister, he said, seemed to have forgotten that even according to EU guidelines a country should have energy reserves that were double its largest unit.
As the interconnector, with 200MW, would be Malta’s largest unit, the country would need a reserve capacity of 400MW.
Labour finance spokesman Karmenu Vella, who spoke earlier, insisted that the Finance Minister's reaction confirmed that the PL's plan was a feasible project.
Mr Vella quoted the minister saying that the project was not doable before four or five years and that the costs included in the study were unrealistic.
"We do not agree with these two concerns raised by Tonio Fenech but at least he has confirmed it is doable," he said.
Describing Mr Fenech's presentation as "amateurish", Mr Vella said it was "full of contradictions" and questioned the minister's credentials to criticise Labour's proposal.
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Joseph Sultana
Jan 12th, 10:22
Beppe tkellem fuq kif il PL ghamel mazra m onqu. PN ghamel mazra ma onq il poplu,u ma nies li ivutawlu l ewwel wiehed jien. staqsi lil tal Hotels,restaurants,fabbriki u industrija li mhux tiflah il kontijiet. Jekk xi hadd ghandu soluzjoni ejja nipruvawa u mhux nikritikaw ghax jekk hemm naqra hope,tnejilniex,tafu li possibli. Pls jekk Tonio Fenech mhux engineer ghalxiex nibatuh TV,nidru ridikoli.
Benjamin McClure
Jan 11th, 12:55
Having helped plan several large scale energy projects, I am bemused by Labour's optimism. The proposed project will require much, much longer to complete than the 2 years that the party envisions. Environmental assessments and stakeholder talks alone will take at least two years. Besides lengthy development timelines, big cost-overruns are inevitable in such complex projects. Be skeptical.
Steven Brockwell
Jan 11th, 12:23
its not the proposal that is bad, its the 10 year guarantee that goes with it? if for example the said price of 9.6 cents per unit does increase by just one cent, after 3 years, than the project will not be fee-sable, the inter connector will give us that price with out spending 400 million
Edgar Gambin
Jan 11th, 11:46
As Anglu Farrugia was fired after his poor show against Simon Busuttil, so should Toni Abela.
Ms Sandra Grech
Jan 13th, 23:04
Konrad Shame-on-You Mizzi you mean.
pat muscat
Jan 11th, 10:40
The energy situation is as follows: bills the second highest in Europe; toxic expensive heavy fuel oil; paying a daily fine for Marsa Power Station; record in outages; EneMalta with 800 million in debt and still loosing millions notwithstanding handouts. All this underscore how much more the system needs to change -along with the politicians responsible for its mismanagement.
A Vella
Jan 11th, 11:54
Stop repeating what you're told pat, check the facts - look at these official figures. http://www.energy.eu/
LP and their fanatics have zero credibility in my books on energy strategy forward. After 5 years of promising to bring change, they want to hide the real info, and bypass EU rules on safety and enviromental matters, to accommodate 'the private sector' or some anointed ones.
G Mangion
Jan 11th, 10:34
Tal misthija, mlp qed jibza juri li ma ghandu Xejn Konkret bil proposta ta li ghamel biex inaqqas it tariffi ta dawl u ilma, Il -Poplu Fatti irrid jaghra u mux Paroli biiss , GHALIEX GHADU JAHBI LIL POPLU JM & CO ?
GHALA DAN IS SILENZJU :?? Il - Poplu Jaf ghala, U Ma hux sa jafda Hobzu fuq il , jekk jew meta jasal il Waqt Nejdilkhom . !
G. Mangion...
M Abdilla
Jan 11th, 11:01
X'Silenzju????????????? Kull mistoqsija li xtaqtu risposta ghalija tawkhom risposta ghalija!!! GonziPN ahjar johorgu dak il-programm elettorali u jejdulna x'inhuma l-pjanijiet taghhom! Forsi SmartCity inlestuh xi darba? Jew inkella jibqa taht it-trab.
Manny Debono
Jan 11th, 10:23
Alice in Wonderland - Swiss Partnership Dreams in the Med.
VS
a Govt. with a vision -proven and tested which led Malta from Ghaddafi's Tent Encounters and Tal Barrani to a PM standing side by side with Germany's Chancellor praising Malta's stamina.
L-Ghazla F'Idejkom u s-Sewwa Jirbah Zgur
Manny Debono
Jan 11th, 10:14
MLP will reduce elec bills by 25% by March 2014- average saving per year of Euro 150 per annum on households . No savings for low income families- these are already subsidised. This has nothing to do with gas station Delimara 2 proposed by MLP. This won't happen within 5 years. The cost will be funded in some other way.
PN 's strategic vision will continue to focus on jobs -real jobs and growth
Mehdi Klein
Jan 11th, 10:04
"the new station and its recent extension continues to run on heavy fuel oil. The EU fines Malta more than 1,000 euros (1,290 dollars) every day for continuing to rely on such fuel. " Oxford Analytica, Sept 2012. Maltese people should think about this great PL proposal.
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 09:53
I wish that Dr Mizzi would explain more to the public of the health implications of this new gas. As a chemist, I know that the gas is way more pro-environment, and also health-wise, but the main target seems to be the money. I think health issues should be also taught to the general public as well
Albert Bonello
Jan 11th, 09:51
I cannot understand why the PL do not want to publish their workings. How easy it is to make a power point presentation without the workings to justify your proposal. On Bondi+ Dr. Toni Abela stated that these will not be published until after the elections. This can only lead me to think that there is something fishy and don't give me the B*** of sensitive information, this is only a proposal!
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 10:04
Tonio Fenech made various wild claims, yesterday, throwing figures about. Where did he get these from? Where are the published reports on, for example, how much it will cost to shore up the area where the tanks are to be built, or for the purchase of ships. If he did not invent these amounts, why not publish his studies or reports- if they exist, of course.
Jimmy Magro
Jan 11th, 11:18
Did u ask GonziPN to give the technical report on the proposal to lower the tax rates in 2008? The promise has been broken as the tax rates were never lowered. How about coming to terms that there is no other publication required as the debate is a political one and not a technical one.
Mr Alistaire Gill
Jan 11th, 09:50
Kif jinbidlu z-zminijiet.
Flimkien kollox possibli - mal-PL
Ammetiha Tonio Fenech li l-kampanja tal-PL hi eccezzjonali.
Din id-darba l-ahjar imhuh qedin fit-team PL
Mr Alistaire Gill
Jan 11th, 09:42
Under the able hands of Tonio Fenech the credit rating of Enemalta has been downgraded to junk by the rating agencies - ghax id-dejn mhu xejn. The Marsa power station has been closed according to plan so many years ago - ha ha. The contract of the BWSC no one can see. The new extension is saving us a lot of millions since it is not working yet. Hallina Tonio.
Duncan Baldacchino
Jan 11th, 09:39
The PN is claiming that 2 big gas depot in Delimara will endanger the area! But till last year there was a big gas depot in Qajjenza with people living next to it!!!! These are stupid claims from a government without ideas!! If the PL ideas are bad why the PN are so afraid about them! The gimmick word used by Gonzi and friends have to be said about the BSWC power station!
Duncan Baldacchino
Jan 11th, 09:34
I think the PL is trying to solve the biggest problem the Maltese families and businesses encountered in the last years! Why attacking new ideas if they are good especially for our health.
The PN don't have any new ideas to solve the problem. It's better if they try to explain why they chose the heavy fuel power station that is unhealthy for the Maltese than trying to ask ridiculous questions!
Jimmy Magro
Jan 11th, 09:23
The technical debate must be made between the technical persons and not between politicians. The PL does not need to defend its proposal and should take the offensive by discussing the benefits to the people and business. Get out of the whole and change the direction of the debate.
Jimmy Magro
Jan 11th, 09:21
This is an electoral campaign and no where in the world, a political party is requested to publish technical documents about its proposals. The PN never published a technical report when they promised the lower tax rates in 2008, and which did not deliver during the whole legislature.
B. Theuma
Jan 11th, 09:10
Prosit Dr. Konrad Mizzi , bniedem espert f'dan il-qasam u li qed turi potenzjal kbir.
Ms Sandra Grech
Jan 13th, 23:06
Everyone's an expert in Malta it seems as long as they have a degree.....
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jan 11th, 08:54
Well I live in malta true? So where do you live sur Bartoli ? Ghax for the last years months we have been getting power cuts like crazy, so you can talk about the candles and back to the drawing board, with the Pn as they seem to have nothing but problems with the new plant... The Steam Turbine, is out dated and absalite by 20 years, that for your thinking
Gas would have been the answer
Ninu
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 10:05
Why did we get power cuts? because workmen hit cables. How is that the fault of the government, How full of promisses Joseph stop workers from doing mistakes?
D. Muscat
Jan 11th, 08:52
Nistaqsi, allura se jkollu jinbena moll id-doppju fil-qies tal-Waterfront tal-Belt in-naha ta Dellimara halli jittrakkaw il-vapuri tat-trasport tal-gass?
Imbaghad hdejn dal-moll se jinbnew 2 tankijiet tal-gass enormi kull wiehed daqs il-knisja tal-Mosta bieb ma bieb il-power station? Ma jafux li ghal ragunijiet ta sigurta barra minn Malta dawn it-tankijiet DEJJEM ibieghduhom? Bravu Konrad!
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 09:48
Mosta Dome - 37.2 m in diameter, these new tanks will be 23m. ma nafx kif qas il-figuri ma jafu jirrepetu l-pn. Also I know of several petrol stations which are "bieb u ghatba" mar-residenzi, fosthom: Rabat, Safi, Floriana, Fgura, Qormi, fejn kulhadd jaddi sigaretti mixghulin u mhux, mobiles mixghulin u mhux.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 11th, 10:07
Qatt smajt bit-tankijiet tal-gass li nbenew dan l-ahhar fil-Qajjenza - liema tankijiet mar jaqta iz-zigarella l-istess Gonzi, u li hdejhom hemm in-nied joqghodu? Dawn ma jinkwetawkx?
ray mond
Jan 11th, 08:47
My Question is this! Can Dr Konrad Mizzi or LP mention a SPECIFIC country / company that invested 376mil that gave a 10year price gurantee on fosil energy such as gas / fuels or electricty produced on fosil fuels??
Edward Mallia
Jan 11th, 08:46
If Min. Fenech had Min. Pullicino's National Energy Policy among those "Reports" he would have found the following:
The study concluded that - an LNG terminal with a STORAGE CAPACITY of 60,000m3 would be the most feasible option.
LNG can only be imported by ship; 60,000m3 by the Min's standards, constitute a "super bomba".
Can Min. Fenech ask Min. Pullicino about this and report back to us?
C Muscat
Jan 11th, 08:34
PN professjonali; jikkritikaw qishom ma humiex il-gvern. Messhom jisthu kemm nefqu flus f konsulenzi u qatt ma raw rapporti bhal dawn. Insejna l-arriva; bwsc li simon qal qed jahdem?! u ma qalx il-final account kemm gej izjed mill kuntratt; insejna li tal-marsa minghajrha ma nghaddux.
Mela iriduni nibqa inhallas 600+ kull kont u ma nippruvax niffranka 125 euro kull 4 xhur!!!
C. Bartoli
Jan 11th, 08:13
If and when this cunning plan is implemented, the Delimara plant will have to be decommissioned during construcion and conversion.
So how will electricity be generated and supply to homes and industry guaranteed?
Is it back to drawing board or back to candles and paraffin lamps?
antonio zerafa
Jan 11th, 08:23
You make me laugh ..........
A Farrugia
Jan 11th, 08:36
C.Bartoli tahseb li CUNNING PLAN, ma jahsibx ghas- supply tal energija during the contsruction and conversion............... mela qieghed titkellem dwar plan ta-tfal tal kindergarten jew !! X''tahseb re minn l-ewwel jghid li ma tista qatt li trahhas it tarrifi tal energija, imbaghad fi zmien ta qabel l-elezzjoni jerga jibdilu u jixheta li iva ta tista, that is a kinder plan is it !!
Edward Mallia
Jan 11th, 08:51
A very biased comment probably involving a huge conflic of interest as well. I seem to remember a candle-making firm called Bartoli situated on the edge of Rabat. The comment constitues a clear advertisement.
A Farrugia
Jan 11th, 08:07
Well done Konrad Mizzi keep up the good work, jien ghaliha dawk il- votanti ta raba distrett nghid li ghandhom il fortuna, li jistghu jellegu bniedem ta din il kapacita, profesjonali f'' xoghlu. Malta ghandha bzonn hafna izjed raprezentanti ta din il kwalita superjuri fl'' abbilta. PL really means buisness as they seem the party ready to deliever. They deserve the chance to do so !
antonio zerafa
Jan 11th, 07:57
Was reading comments below: somebody said labour following cyprus, remember pn talking Irland Ireland Ireland No? somebody said labour and vat, remember pn talking Incometax reduction 5 years nothing, somebody talking louis grech and the Hunger, remember airmalta said to be leadbirds (ghasafar tac comb) and the only time Airmalta going down the drain was in Pn time,,,, maybe pn is panicing????
Andre Briffa
Jan 11th, 08:53
Labour are the ones panicking and they will do ANYTHING to be in power. God bless this country when JM is running the show.
Jessica Williams
Jan 11th, 07:53
I am impressed with Dr Konrad Mizzi. He is consistent and credible. I sincerely hope PN will not resort to the digging up dirt, personal attacks and character assassination, it is not the sort of campaign the general public is after. should be setting the agenda and not simply reacting to PL.
Edward Mallia
Jan 11th, 07:30
Did Min. Fenech have The National Energy Policy in that pile of "Reports"? If he did, he would have found the following:
"The study concluded that
an LNG terminal with a storage capacity of 60000m3 would be the most feasible option. "
LNG can only be imported by SHIP not by PIPELINE. Can Min.Fenech ask Min. Pullicino or the author of the study about this?
Publish the answer please.
John L Galea
Jan 11th, 07:19
I didn't know that in Malta we have a myriad of people highly qualified in energy consultancy, business management, economics, etc. Amazing!!!
Noel Damato
Jan 11th, 07:10
PL's performance shows that its a well prepared team with a clear road map for our country's future. Thanks for the clear proposals given to the consumer so he can start coping with life.
Pierre Fenech
Jan 11th, 07:03
A very well prepared press conference. Very competent person. One can see from the way he answers without turning round the bush. I am impressed at the way PL are well prepared this time round. Not like the past few elections when they were very disorganised. Well done PL you deserve the vote this time round.
Andre Briffa
Jan 11th, 08:54
You say that now...but when we turn into the joke of europe you'll be wishing PN to come and save the day yet again!
Lawrence Fenech
Jan 11th, 04:48
Konrad you are an energetic young man and an expert on the subject of energy. You are certainly an asset to the PL party. You are very convencing and capable to get your message through no doubts about it.
Andre Briffa
Jan 11th, 08:54
I thought Toni Abela is better...
John Grech
Jan 11th, 04:18
Dawn xi pjanijiet huma.??????... jekk jitla l-PL fil-gvern se jkolna SUPERGVERN li tant kien qal kemm Austin Arroganti u Bulldozer.. u mid-dehra se jaghmlulu kompetizzjoni lil Austin li issa rilevanti biss ghal PN ghax mhux se jkun izjed la fil'Gvern u lanqas fil-parlament. Mid-deha bil'PL fil-Gvern mhux se jkolna bulldozer wiehed imma diversi.. bullijiet!!!!
Edward Mallia
Jan 11th, 01:01
Min. Fenech has suddenly pulled a Sicily cable price - 11c - out of the hat, when he evaded giving any answer on that for months on end.
Time scales: Tripoli-Gela pipeline (~400km) laid in 18mon + 6mon to start up. How come Min. Fenech needs 5 years for a 100km line? A money time lag I guess.
Cyprus - now building an LNG node - is out of reach of the EU gas grid. Any EU help must be for LNG.
Andrew Farrugia
Jan 11th, 00:24
with all the respect....not convincing at all....how on earth is this possible?????........IMPOSSIBLE.....JOSEPH is trying to please everybody to be primeminister.....IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY,,,,,SENSIBLE PEOPLE REALISE
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 11th, 09:49
he answered all questions posed by PN. why is it not convincing?
j schembri
Jan 11th, 00:13
It seems really doable from gas pricing side!!!
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-natural-gas-prices-reshaping-global-market-2012-12-12-144851222
Andre Briffa
Jan 10th, 23:56
The PL will do anything to be in power...they don't care they're going to ruin this country asking as they are in power. Pity the generations to come as the hole they leave will take years and years to recover
pat muscat
Jan 10th, 23:45
Its a pity that GonziPN can only come up lame excuses and sheer panic:instead of giving a helping hand to lower the high tariffs that he shoved on us, he is shooting down Pl's proposal. Only audacious and courageous and determined people can bring about change, and make things happen. GonziPN willows in lethargy and the result is for all to see: expensive bills and EneMalta nearly bankrupt!
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 10th, 23:37
I am convinced more than ever that lejber has gone mad. They want my vote by enticing me with this insane project? no way I am better as I am .
Lino A Catania
Jan 10th, 23:29
Dr Mizzi you are doing a great service to the nation. Keep it up. Soon they will run out of questions and objections and will be asking you how many ablations will be reserved for female employee at the new plant.
Lino A Catania
Jan 10th, 23:22
This is the 11th general election I remember. And already voted in 8. Never I remember such a detailed proposal such as Labour's electricity plans. Well studied and magnificently presented. Good work Dr Mizzi.
Wish I come from your district. What amaze me is the negative attitude taken by most journalists. Just serving their masters. Can easily be nicknamed the LICKERISH BUNCH.
Vincent Bezzina
Jan 10th, 22:48
What happened to the cable to Sicily in the meantime? Not enough commissions on marine cables?
Vincent Bezzina
Jan 10th, 22:37
At least PL have picked up on an issue that is truly important to Maltese. I can't understand why anyone - no matter what their affiliation would object to lower bills - the Americans have an expression - Turkeys Voting for Christmas and this describes those objecting to lower bills.
Lara Vella
Jan 10th, 22:33
Il-PL jideher konpatt u iktar kredibbli fil-proposta tieghu. Il-PN wisq konfuz, il-kelliema tieghu wisq konfuzi u l-argumenti taghhom wisq imhawdin.
Matthew Tanti
Jan 10th, 22:28
Lil min ghandna nemmnu illum lil Tonio Fenech li qalilna li l-kontijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma ma jistghux jorhsu. Lil Lawrence Gonzi li qalilna li l-pura verita' hi li l-kontijiet ma jistghux jorhsu jew lil Lawrence Gonzi li qal li hu ha jrahhas il-kontijiet iktar mill-PL. X'konfuzjoni hux :)
A Vella
Jan 10th, 22:26
Not only we can not fix the price. But we do not have an idea of what price we will be charged for delivery. Do your own research!
Matthew Tanti
Jan 10th, 22:25
Tonio Fenech kien il-ministru li qalilna li ma jistux jorhsu l-kontijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma. Il-ministru li ghabbiena b'power station li tahdem bl-iktar fuel li thammeg. Dawn huma c-certifikati ta' Tonio Fenech fil-qasam tal-energija. Kif nistghu nemmnuh lil Fenech iktar.
Darren Agius
Jan 10th, 22:21
Meta? Kif? B'kemm? Il-PL issa wiegeb ghall-mistoqsijiet kollha. Issa jmiss lill-PN li johrog bi proposti konkreti. Il-PN irid jghidilna jekk qablux bejniethom jekk hux ha jrahhas it-tariffi kiefra li xehtu fuq il-poplu. Jekk u meta jaqblu li jrahsuhom issa jridu jghidluna meta, kif u b'kemm.
Mr. M. Camilleri
Jan 10th, 22:18
This is PL's JOLLY!!!
Well done Mr. Mizzi!
J Hili
Jan 10th, 21:51
kieku delimara ghamiltu il wind farms mhux ahjar ? rih No problem ax is sena kollha ...la cumnija u l anqas gas kullhadd safe . fejn huma l esperti?
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 08:34
u tixghel nofs Marsaxlokk biss.
Aqra naqa izjed u tifhem ghaliex!
Ronald Borg
Jan 10th, 21:29
Konrad,
very well explained.
your arguments on TV were solid and convincing.
Tonio and Jason had absolutely no idea what they were talking about.
marius mifsud
Jan 10th, 21:28
as regardsbuilding time frame, may i remind the readers to distinguish between building a prototype or an already proven plant. When i used to work with GE, we once built a plant which had some new technology in 2 years, but i have saw a large combined cycle plant (of 300 power units) being built in the UK in 5 months, but obviously this was not the first one thast they built
marius mifsud
Jan 10th, 21:24
(...continued). the enemalta website states that the current capacity of the 2 powerstations is around 660MW. so enemalta (and rightly so) has an over capacity with respect to the 480 power maximum load.
As regards the gas tankers ships just google on natural gas transportation in the mediterrenean and you will see that there is a constant transportation
Peppi Borg
Jan 10th, 21:22
All Gonzipn's horses cannot keep up with PL's dynamic team! PL has got ideas, just what our country needs at the moment. Gonzipn is panicing and switched to the usual scaremongering mode.
John Zammit
Jan 10th, 21:21
A well prepared study that the Government was not capable to do or rather say didn't want to do
marius mifsud
Jan 10th, 21:19
minister fenech is lamenting that the pl plan will result in over investment. it must be kept in mind that 1:the interconnector can get damaged,hence you have to be self-sufficient as regards the 480 amount of power he quoted. 2. electricity generating machine need servicing from time to time which requires part of the plant to be switched off (..to be continued)
Noel Abela
Jan 10th, 21:05
The PL is showing how well prepared it is. Its proposal are doable and its representatives know very well what they are talking about. GonziPn want details but if this sensitive commerecial imformation how can this be published after all it is what Tonio Fenech used to say about BWSC...............no?
Mary Ann Borg
Jan 10th, 20:55
Yes of course, it is a doable at doing away with VAT, another Lejber trick to get to power. Afterwards we all realised that removing VAT was not doable at all, in fact.
Joseph Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 23:07
With all due respect, when VAT was introduced we were told that VAT is a fair tax. It taxes what spend not what they earn. It therefore encourages people to work more. In fact, the promise was that in the meantime income tax was to be phased out.
What happened?
We now have VAT
Income tax.
+ we still have 5 thousand million dejn.
Find the time to find out why.
Jean Paul Micallef
Jan 11th, 01:04
Read read & read. This is elementary science nothing to do with vat.
R Axisa
Jan 11th, 05:34
Any why do we have to believe what the PN is saying after all the messes they've been up to!
Joe M Borg
Jan 11th, 05:37
What troubles me is Joseph's plan to send 'officers' to check EVERY family on their 'way of life'! He has to check what type of fridge you have, check your washroom, shower/bath', toilets, and check how often you do the laundry. Then, probably, if he finds wastage, Joseph will tax one and all, as Sant did to health, because 'some are wasting their medicine.' Their 'excuse' is ready.
John L Galea
Jan 11th, 07:08
MaryAnn why do you waste your time to trumpet your biased and unsubstantiated opinion.
Frank Zammit
Jan 11th, 07:47
What was very comfortable doing the PN was to mislead the DOCK YARD workers, THE AIR MALTA and SEA MALTA employees that their jobs were safe under GONZI PN. Your party (that use to be my PARTY) also promised SMART CITY and over 5000 IT jobs. The PN's newfound genius, SIMON, also primised a budget surplus by 2010; a miscalculation of about €400,000,000. And you are saying the PN is trustworthy?
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 08:37
@joseph Buhagiar
If you go to work in any Western Country, you will pay VAT, Income Tax and a load of others.
VAT is a fair tax because it taxes consumption. The more you afford to consume, the more you pay.
IWhoever said that Income Tax will be phased out? Impossible.
Since 1987, I.Tax was reduced by several PN governments.
Removal of VAT was a Vote-Catching gimmick and we fell for it.
Neville Carabott
Jan 10th, 20:42
Dan Mr.Konrad Mizzi means business.Jien lill dan it-tifel ha nivvota zgur.Pajjizi nhoss li nies bhal dan ghandu bzonn.Well done Mr.Mizzi-YOU MEAN BUSINESS.
Joe M Borg
Jan 10th, 20:48
Progett fallut qabel ma jibda. Jien il-vot tieghi mhux se nahlieh fid-duhhan. Pajp tal-gas se jkollna, mela ghalfejn hemm bzonn ingibuh bil-vapuri? Bla sens kompletament. Qisek ghandek l-ilma tal-vit, u tmur iggib l-ilma bil-barmil mill-ghadira. Hawwadni ha nifhmek.
Catherine Mercieca
Jan 10th, 21:12
Jien bhalek ha naghmel ghandna xorti hiereg fuq ir-Raba DistrKett taghna, kburin bik Konrad.
D. Zammit
Jan 10th, 22:44
Ghaziz Mr Carabott, jiena ma naqbilx mieghek ghas-semplici raguni li jekk ghandi bzonn nixtri ghamara ma mmurx ghand tal-haxix, imma ghand mastrudaxxa. L-istudji ta' Dr Konrad Mizzi m'humiex fis-settur tal-energija imma fil-finanzi.
If he really means business, why doesn't he publish the technical specifications of the proposal so the real competent people can analyze them at their own expertise?
Neville Carabott
Jan 10th, 22:45
Mela tahlihx u tih lill san simon ghax dak mhux duhhan.kemm int vojt.
Mary Ann Borg
Jan 10th, 23:26
Ma kontx naf li issa anke tfal se johorgu ghall elezzjoni mal-Lejber.
Jean Paul Micallef
Jan 11th, 01:12
@joe borg
Habib. isma sew jek trid tifhem. il.pipelime tajjeb imma ghal xiex ha tuzah jekk ma hemmx impjant kbir bizzejjed li ha jiehu minnu. ghalhekk hemm bzonn impjant iehor biex ikollok fejn tuzah u tnehhi magni li jehlu ma magni li tiffranka. tankijiet hemm bzonnhom dejjem pipeline jew le ghax trid storage bhal lilma tad dar jekk ikun hemm xi delays, kif ghanda bhallisa.
Frank Zammit
Jan 11th, 07:58
Yes MR. BORG you sound very confused and disorientated. It's obvious that some people have a problem realizing that we are being forced to pay these exaggerated utility bills because Hon. Tonio Fenech is as disoriented as you are. Wake-up PN, your energy policy has failed...miserably. By concentrating on shooting this proposal down your are only shooting yourself in the foot and us in the face.
Mr charles azzopardi
Jan 11th, 08:02
@ Joe M Borg :
Singapore has a water pipeline with Malaysia and Malaysia threathened to increase the water prices with Singapore reverting to Military action in the malacca straits ..
Ukraine had 100s of dead people as soon as Russia closed the gas tap in the middle of winter ..
So will Superman Simon go to take out his word against Italy if they increase their prices ?
Elementary Dr Simon
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 11th, 08:14
@joe Borg, did your government say when the pipeline will be financed by the EU [60%] and when it will be built and running. Dates please. May be 2020? Dak hu Duhhan.
Denis Pace
Jan 11th, 08:15
Konrad Mizzi showed us a desktop presentation....
His credibility can only be confirmed once he publishes the studies which led him to these conclusions. Louis Grech said he has no problem about doing so, whereas Toni Abela said that they would publish reports AFTER the election.
Now, unless this is just a vote-catching exercise, we believe it is imperative to see Substance, BEFORE we vote!!!
Alan Xuereb
Jan 10th, 20:31
People of Birzebbugia, if the gas tanks were already a burden what's gonna be 2 other tanks big as mosta church? PLUS another new plant extending the old! What about all the marches and placards against the gas reservoirs? Mayor of Birzebbugia, please, can you speak out NOW for these people!!!!
John Zammit
Jan 10th, 21:19
People in Birzebugia have a chance to change either the Heavy Fuel Oil or the clean Gas
A Cachia
Jan 10th, 22:14
U is-sludge tal Heavy Fuel Oil minn fejn jghaddi?
Mr. M. Camilleri
Jan 10th, 22:27
Taf li l-gass ma jħammiġx!!!!!!!!!!
Kun af qabel titkellem!!!!!!!!!11
Anton Attard
Jan 10th, 22:38
We live there my friend. This new concept will remove Delimara Chimney and will remove all emissions. Who cares about storage?
Joe M Borg
Jan 11th, 05:39
Yes, let's see Marsaxlokk Local council and people protest about the power station now, as this PL one is much bigger. And where is Tony Zarb? Isn't he concerned that the new company might send the enemalta workers away? Or has he ALREADY gone into hibernation?
Mr Alan Zahra
Jan 10th, 20:29
Leaving energy generation to a private entity is a strategic mistake, especially in a small market where no other competitor will venture. Tariffs might be low for the first few years but will undoubtedly increase for a decent return on investment in the coming years.
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 10th, 20:44
having a gaseline and an interconnector to one country (italy) heading intp political instability is a massive strategic mistake.
Joe M Borg
Jan 10th, 20:50
Adrian. WE might have headed into disaster if Gonzi had followed Joseph's 'bright' advise to copu Cyprus. Luckily for us, Gonzi is much more experienced, and wiser than Joseph.
Joseph Sammut
Jan 11th, 06:13
What's the difference between a private entity and Enemalta? Have you been living in Malta for the last number of years?
lawrence spiteri
Jan 10th, 20:28
Kemm hadt gost naqra dawn il-kummenti. Jidher carissimu illi kull min hu mkahhal mal PN jinsab f'fernezija shiha. Dumb stricken. Il kummenti banali li qrajt hawnhekk fuq ingravajjet u kuluri u kritika sempliciment biex inkunu ghidna xi haga tindika li Konrad Mizzi hawwadtkom sew b'Tonio Fenech imfixkel ghall-ahhar, b'Lawrence Gonzi idur dawra shiha u fil-Germanja jghidilhom li ha jrohhos id-dawl.
Joe M Borg
Jan 10th, 20:52
Li Louis Grech jiftahar li bena hangar (li bnieh hadd iehor) ghamilni 'dumb stricken' Qatt ma bsart li Louis jaqa' fi hrafa bhal dik. Kelli opinjoni fern iktar tajba ta' Louis, kif gieli ktibt qabel! Nahseb li Louis tfixkel, ghax lanqas biss ftakar MIN bnieh il-hangar!
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 11th, 08:29
@ Joe M Borg
Obviously Louis Grech is not smart enough to run away from a sinking ship of fools. Look at Edward Scicluna.. He hadn't shown his face since this ridiculous proposal was unveiled.
Anthony Mizzi
Jan 10th, 20:19
PL has got new ideas...... Gonzi / Busuttil PN just copy, cut & paste and make ideas, bill-boards, venues, LP proposals their own WITH NO SHAME!
joseph borg st john
Jan 11th, 03:33
Mizzi i m sure you are not refering to the budget that is what i call copying.
D. Muscat
Jan 10th, 20:15
Tonio Fenech; ''Ghal kull riskju li jehodlok il-privat trid thallas ghalih. Il-privat ma jehodloks riskju b'xejn. U tar-riskju li jehodlok trid thallas biz-zalza.''
This for me is the crux of the problem. This public-private venture proposed by Labour is too risky to succeed considering the volatility of gas & oil prices in an uncertain financial climate.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 10th, 20:30
That is one of the huge risks. In reality, as happend elsewhere, a private entity may decide (yet very improbable) to work at a small margin for ten years in the knowedge that on the start of the 11th year it will have a captive market which it could bleed to death! A life span of such a plant is between 20 and 30 years.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 20:34
D. Muscat: What qualifications do you have to arrive at your conclusion ???
Eve Axiaq
Jan 10th, 20:38
U ghaliex Malta biss? Ghax harguha l PL?
Joe M Borg
Jan 10th, 20:54
Eddie. What qualifications do YOU hae to teach D Muscat. Qualifications of the 70's?
Peter Buttigieg
Jan 10th, 22:24
@ Eddy Privitere - I think D. Muscat has a PhD in Common Sense. Hallina trid..
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 11th, 00:05
@ Eddy Privitera
If a limited liability company goes bust all it does declare bankrupcy and close doors. What if the private investor goes bust due to the pressure to keep its rates to the lowest? Either the rates go up or declare bankrupcy.
Cocpardo talked sense to night. Unless the project is supported by factual costs it is irrelevent.
Did you see Merkel with Gonzi? IL MAKKU GIE HONORAT
Mehdi Klein
Jan 11th, 03:11
Joe. What qualifications do you have to question the one who questioned?
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 07:45
@Eddie,
Well, what qualificatins in this subject you have or other have in that matter, while I'm an electrical engineer with 20 years expirience in oil & gas (P.S, I'm wiriting these comments from norway). Does that give me the god given right to shut other people from commenting on this subject. Both sides agree that the PS can be converted to operate by gas.
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 11th, 08:34
@ Eddie Privitera
He has a qualification that used to be called common sense until it became almost non-existent among a large number of people.
Emanuel Griscti
Jan 10th, 20:12
Its all well and good to reduce electricity and water prices if there is no hidden taxes to pay for it but surely there are a lot more important things apart from energy prices like education health job creation stability to mention just a few lets not be blinded just with cheaper electricity bills and look at the overall prospects and plans!!!
R. Stivala
Jan 11th, 07:43
Mr Emanuel Griscti, there's almost over a month left for the election... So there is tplenty of time left for the PL to give us their proposals, this was the first and most important one so other good proposals by the PL are yet to come !!
Unlike the PN which didn't give us at least one Proposal to start with!!!
Richard Caruana
Jan 10th, 20:12
What Konrad Mizzi hasn't mentioned yet is that their 'consultants' came out with the result that the pipeline as proposed by the PN energy costs will be less.
So why do we need another power station? And how come tariffs can be reduced BEFORE the new power station is ready? Who'll pay for that.
This is nothing but pie in the sky. Keep dreaming, it's all downhill from now on for the PL
Eve Axiaq
Jan 10th, 20:35
Ghal informazzjoni tieghek u ta nies bhalek f'dawn is sentejn id dawl ma gholiex ghax se npattu ghalih bl interconnector. Dan qalu Tonio Fenech il bierah fuq TVM fl ghaxija. Issa dan l interconnector ghadu ma sarx u knowing PN alla jaf meta jitlesta. Pero fil verita hu ovvja li ma gholiex minhabba l-elezzjoni.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 20:39
Richard Caruana: You should have watched Konrad Mizzi's press conference. He answered the point you made ! As regards lowering tariffs BEFORE the power station is ready, is because the private operator will pay IN ADVANCE. At the end of the FIRST year. Hence tariffs will be reduced after ONE YEAR ! Obviously you are not following what the PL explains but listen only to what GonziPN say !
Richard Caruana
Jan 10th, 20:52
I do follow everyone who is discussing this, and the more I hear the more I'm convinced that this is a pipe dream.
Let's get elected and then we'll see. That was the tactic with VAT and that is the tactic now. Credibility can only be won through convincing arguments when all costings are published. Till then it's just an idea with no substance.
Peter Buttigieg
Jan 10th, 22:28
Eddy - Ezattament ta xiex ser ihallas bil quddem l-operatur privat???? ma nghamlux mod ta xi kampanja elettorali hux. Ghax jekk ser jibni hu il Power Station ma nafx ta xiex ser ihallas lil gvern... spejegali ezatt.
Jean Paul Micallef
Jan 11th, 01:20
Baqalek xtaqdef habib...hasra li mintix tifhem. iz zmien ser jurik ghax kg suf bhal kg hadid, u mhemmx argumenti.
Power station gdida trida ghax ta delimara lantika 30% efficienti u thammeg u tuza zejt gholi u l gdida tuza gas li huwa irhas fejn ma jhammeg xejn, tajjeb ghal sahhtek u 55% efficenti. GHAZEL INT ISSA
G. Cassar
Jan 10th, 19:58
Labour is rejoicing that their plan is 'doable'.
Only two insignificant points of contention left to resolve; price and timescale! Ohh well!
Please keep in mind that with unlimited time and money anything is possible irrespective of practically.
Frans Aguis
Jan 10th, 20:15
I guess numbers are too hard for you to understand.
G. Cassar
Jan 10th, 20:42
My point, if you had bothered to read the above, is that it is unfair to proclaim that PN are sort of endorsing PL's energy proposal. Clearly they are not in agreement on the only points that do matter - money and time. I repeat, anything can be considered as doable but this does not mean that it is wise to do. Such grand claims and the respective numbers need to be substantiated.
A. Mizzi
Jan 10th, 19:52
At least the PL has an energy plan ad from the opposition, paying out Consultants out of Party funds!
What do the PN have NO PLANS, the Marsa power station that was supposed AND ELECTORALLY PLEDGED to be closed down by 1992, the Delimara Plant , now outdated and still not paid for and the €4,000,000 COMMISSIONED BWSC extension which is still being tested, EVEN IF ALREADY PAID !
Mr Gabriel Cassar-Torregiani
Jan 10th, 19:48
Karmenu Vella, - the guy who forgets what he said two minutes ago. So now he limits himself to being insolent.
P Sciberras
Jan 10th, 19:44
Strange but true, we expected L.Bondi to be present for this press conference,it seems that he do not fancy to ask questions directly to Conrad on his own without interference and timely brakes.
joe caruana
Jan 10th, 19:40
Dr Mizzi is say that M'Xolk residence prefer the removal of the long chimney. The new power station require a chimney and 2 gas storage tanks. B'Bugia residence especially those who live at Qajjenza can explain what was the situation when gas tanks were in operation in that area.
B Testa
Jan 10th, 20:39
It seems that you do not live in the area. The Oiltanking Facility which is closer to Birzebbuga has about 15 large tanks full of oil. With an explosion there, the Freeport area will become barren and god knows what happens with Birzebbuga. Removing the HFO will be an upheaval for us residents as we have got enough of the burnt fuel smell we have every morning in our localities. PL is making sense
Lawrence Zahra
Jan 10th, 19:40
Will the 30,000 families who today receive benefit vouchers to cover part of their electricity bill still receive them under the proposed new PL tariffs?
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 20:20
the 25% is an average, if i understood correctly, therefore some people may benefit from more than 25%. I guess this is where the 30 000 families come into
Marco Galea
Jan 10th, 19:36
Konrad Mizzi ta' presentation ohra? u l-istudji ghadu jahbihom?
Jekk mandekx x'tibza' li l-proposta kollha tisfaxa, IPPUBLIKA l-istudju mhux il-powerstation ... dejjem jekk m'hemmx x'tahbi!
Maryanne Camilleri
Jan 10th, 19:35
The PL's proposal re the energy mix is brilliant &contrasts with the PN's proposal to depend only on a 50 megawatt powerstation & the interconnecter terminal.What will the consequences be if the interconnecter facility is damaged or if there are industrial disputes in the energy sector in Italy or if there are power outages in Italy? The PL proposal is very secure & safeguards the workers' jobs.
Peter Buttigieg
Jan 10th, 22:36
Maryanne - Please explain to me what happens if the Private Investor starts loosing money in the 10 years price fixing agreement with Enemalta - let me think.....loose millions over millions or......PULL THE PLUG....
That is why for the plan to be feasable they need double the capacity as contingency. but that contingemcy won't come cheap....
Edmond Micallef
Jan 10th, 19:30
Poor GonziPN apologists.
They choose to believe a person who proclaimed that the Maltese are Cwiec, thus including himself in this bracket. At the same time they refute to believe a professional technocrat who has graduated in this matter and has international working experience in this field.
U tghidx ma ppublikax kollox Tonio fuq il-BWSC! Hekk nibqghu. Wishful thinking. Come on, be real.
Joseph Gili
Jan 10th, 19:30
PL is making the electoral campain agenda, wake up PN.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 10th, 19:27
After reading this, one can only conclude how amateurish Minister Fenech is. I hope he will go back to being an accountant.
A Abela
Jan 10th, 19:26
Well done Conrad
B. Farrugia
Jan 10th, 19:25
Brilliant defence, congratulations Perit Vella and Mr. Konrad Mizzi.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 10th, 19:24
It is plain to see that the MONEY we gave from our taxes to the PL opposition was WORTH IT
IMAGINE how much more it will be WORTH IT when they will be in government
"which they will BE ".
GOD BLESS THEM >>> KEEP IT UP >>> MALTA TAGHNA IKOLL !!!
W. Cassar
Jan 10th, 19:22
I never knew who Konrad Mizzi was before these proposals happened. I must say Im pleasantly surprised by the way he answers all questions put to him.
Well Done
Floater.
D Zahra
Jan 10th, 20:06
Same hear mate! The chap is a breath of fresh air.
Charles Massa
Jan 10th, 19:21
X tistenna minn ministru li qatt ma lehaq it targets tieghu innifsu? Li jkollok xi studju profond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
G. Borg
Jan 10th, 19:21
Tal-LAbour saru Nazzjonalisti iktar minn-Nazzjonalisti innifishom.........dak il-BLUE kollu warajhom..........get a life !
R. Stivala
Jan 11th, 08:00
X ghandu x jaqsam dan il comment ma li hawn miktub hawn fuq ?!?!?! X paniku ghandkom ... lanqas tafu x ser tikkumentaw !!
Joseph Gili
Jan 10th, 19:13
Mr. R Mifsud, issa qed tghid hekk, meta resqu ghal-kuntrat ta l-isptar ta St. Philips, u tal powerstation int fejn kont.............?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 10th, 19:13
Categorically excluding that a project could be carried out soon or even after four years does not mean that it would be do-able later. Making such an illogical statement means that one is not competent to comment on Tonio Fenech's superb performance.
Max Portelli
Jan 10th, 19:09
@Christopher Sammut
Ha nghidlek Sur Sammut, mohhi miftuh u sincerament nixtieq li l-PL johrog b'proposta sura ghax jiena nhallas kontijiet ukoll. Imma l-pura verita' hi li le ma jikonvincunix. Nametti li jiena nqis ruhi ghal Nazzjonalist. Imma nametti wkoll li l-PN ghandu l-problemi u aghmel zbalji. Pero' bl-izbalji u l-problemi kollha taghhom, l-PL xorta narahom minghajr sugu!
twanny borg
Jan 10th, 19:09
jista' xi hadd jghidli d-data tal-ewwel kont b'irhis li n-nies jircievu jekk jitla l-pl kif qed jghid? ix-xahar u s-sena.
Joseph Gili
Jan 10th, 19:53
Vote PL and you will know, Mr Borg.
Mr. Mario F
Jan 10th, 20:04
Fl-10 ta Marzu 2014 jistenna lil tal-meter jigi jiehu reading. Il-konsum minn dakinhar l-hemm ikun b-discount ta 25% ghal 10 snin. Jigri x'jigri fil-prezz tal-gass, int tibqa thallas bl-irhis. Semplici le? Jekk inkun hemm klawsola biex l-owner tal- power station jithallas izjed jekk il-gass joghla, dak jidhol bhalu dejn fl-Enemalta, ha jhallsuh uliedna
Joe Busuttil
Jan 10th, 20:29
Aqra l-gazzetti u tkun taf. Jew bhala Nat. tistenna li haddiehor jaghmillek xogholok?
Peter Buttigieg
Jan 10th, 22:42
@ Mario F - Jimporta nzid mal kumment tighek - jew ahna meta nkunu penzjonanti.... Veru mniehri mhux daqsekk zghir imma biex tibla li din hija l-ahjar proposta trid tkun veru tara sal ponta ta'mniehrek...
twanny borg
Jan 10th, 19:04
tal-pl maqdru l-power station il-gdida u qalu mhux se tahdem. issa dawru kollox u qalu li jridu jzarmaw ta' dellimara u juzaw lilha u jibnu ohra.
John Camilleri
Jan 10th, 19:03
With the proposal of the Partit Laburista if everything goes according to plan a family of 4 will save around Eur250 per year. Since this savings will come into play in the 2nd year of the legislature we will save Eur1,000 over the 5 year legislature. That works out to Eur 16.67 (Lm 7.15) per month. I cant believe that people are ready to risk all we have gained for Lm 7.15 per month. Incredible!
Sarah Grech (Zebbug)
Jan 10th, 19:52
And what exactly have WE gained under the PN administration, Mr. Camilleri?
Apart from arrogance and one fiasco after the other, I mean.
Andrea Schembri
Jan 10th, 19:57
Dear John Im from the south and I would risk even my life to know my son would get healthier air think even knowing that I will gain money by getting this healthier life
Joseph Grech Attard
Jan 10th, 20:00
So, if your calculations are right, which I doubt, saving Eur 16.67 per month is not much, but, more or less the same amount as increase in the cost of living, is a lot. Two weights and two measure? Surely not. This is the moral and ethical reasoning of GonziPN bloggers! Lent is approaching. Repent!!
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 20:14
John Camilleri, do you know LNG is natural gas(methane)? It only produces carbon dioxide and water when burnt? heavy fuel oil produces SOx, NOx, H2S amongst other toxic gases, PAHs which are carcinogens (can cause cancer), smog and soot which can cause asthma and pulmonary diseases. Yes, I will take the risk, cause my life and others in the south is at risk!
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 20:15
also i prefer 16 euros extra than less in my pocket
Joseph Micallef
Jan 10th, 18:56
Well done Partit Laburista. Reactive in less than 2 hours. GonziPN and his clique can't be trusted. They've been changing versions time and again. First they said it's impossible for tariffs to be lowered, Simon said it was a 'gimmick', Tonio said the same thing and Gonzi, whilst being honored with another invalid certificate from Berlin said that the PN would lower tariffs. Ħawwadni ħa nifmek
Ruben Mifsud
Jan 10th, 18:49
If this plan is so "Doable", then why is PL refusing to publish the details of this report???
carlos ellul
Jan 10th, 19:00
Why did the Gonzipn refused to publish the details regarding the BWSC?
Saviour Aquilina
Jan 10th, 19:02
Because PL have nothing to show.
Vincent Cassar
Jan 10th, 19:10
Perhaps for the same reason that the PN never published his, paid by the taxes of the people of this country, about the reasons for going to HFO in 2008 and going against their own decision in favour of gas in 2006?
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 10th, 19:12
Ruben Mifsud we new about the 500 euros after 1 year !!!!
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 10th, 19:29
Because they are waiting for the PN to first publish its report on how the PN is going to reduce the tariffs.
A Abela
Jan 10th, 19:32
Fittex fil yellow pages forsi ssibhom
Warren Griscti
Jan 10th, 19:32
Tonio Fenech ippublikah listudju li ma jistax jahdem pls?
Joseph Grech Attard
Jan 10th, 19:55
Just because GonziPN or PN or whatever would make its utmost either to copy or, more probably, to buy off the private sector not to co-operate, so typical when the PN is in opposition. Besides, Gonzi, in Berlin, has promised to reduce energy bills. Can he explain how?
J. Pace
Jan 10th, 18:46
Segwejt dibattu bierah, u vera fis-shab tal lejber. Kif jista jkun tibni l-pipe in 2 years!!!!!!!!!!
U VAT kemm ha tghola?? Tistghu tkunu onesti u tghidulna kemm ha ggibuha?
Haga ohra, jista xi haddj ikkonfermali jekk rohs tad-dawl u ilma hux ghal-kulhadd? Ghax s'issa ma hiex cara jekk rohs huwiex ghal-kulhadd jew le! Probabli minn jhallas hafna taxxa (35%) ma japplikax ir-rohs ghalihom!
John Attard
Jan 10th, 18:56
U vera fis shab ta biex ghadek ma tafx li l lejber f 2 years terminal qed jissugerixxi mhux pipeline!!!!
Luke Scicluna
Jan 10th, 18:57
L-Amerka bnew l-Hoover Dam fi zmien hames snin. Fit-30s.
Jekk hemm id-determinazzjoni, issir.
G. Calleja
Jan 10th, 19:13
Il-PL qatt ma qal li se jibni pipe f'sentejn. Il-pipeline huwa progett li dahal ghalih il-PN . Huwa progett tajjeb li pero se jitlesta aktar tard. Il-proposta tal-PL tghid li l-gas jingieb bil-vapuri f'forma likwida.
Rigward it-trahhis, dan m'huwiex relatat ma kemm thallas taxxa jew kemm taqla, imma minnflokk huwa relatat ma kemm tahli elettriku, u jiffavorixxi lil min jahli l-inqas.
Patrick Cumbo
Jan 10th, 19:23
J Pace--Jiena ma nafx xsegwejt il-bierah u xi jkun dan id-dibattu...nahseb li ridt tajd dibattitu...imma qed ninduna li ghandek jew poblema biex tisma jew ma tismax jew trid tisma li jaqbillek..jew tisma dibattitu mux bibattu J.Pace
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 10th, 19:33
The two years refer to building of the new station. The rest is just your invention, trying to scare people. Minn fejn gibthom dawna il-qlajjiet?
Warren Griscti
Jan 10th, 19:33
Alekk mux ha juza il pipe imma il gas tankls ax il pipe iddum hafna aktar bix tibnih jekk segwejt sew. U kulhadd ehe jgawdi ta mir rohs.
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 19:34
line mhux ha jinbena mil-ewwel. l-ewwel il-LNG ha jibda jigi bil vapur, imbad jinbena il-pipeline wara. dan ghax sakem jinbena il pipe, jilhqu jaddu xi 6 snin fej setaw jorhos xorta il kont. il-VAT ha tibqa listess ghax mandiex ghalfejn toghla. ir-rohs hu ghal kulhadd, pero skond kemm tahli. ez. jekk tahli amont zajr ta units, it-25% ha jola (thallas inqas) jekk tahli iktar units, it 25% ha jonqos
K Grech
Jan 10th, 19:42
l pipeline iridu jaghmluh il PN ukoll just so you know, il haga hi li taht il PN andek 6 snin mill anqas skond Tonio biex tibda tara xi "trahhis".
Joseph Xuereb
Jan 10th, 18:46
L-MLP flok joqghod ipacapac u jpacpac imissu jippublika ir-rapporti bhal ma ghamel Tonio Fenech fuq il-Gas Pipeline. Jekk ma jaghmlux hekk hemm x'jahbu. kulhadd jifhem li meta tahbi xi haga ma tkunx sabiha. Kieku kien mod iehor kienu jpercuha u mil-ewwel.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 10th, 18:59
Il-partit li qiegħed tirreferi għalih inti jismu Partit Laburista. It-tieni, il-PL qiegħed ipaċpaċ? Ara vera inkredibbli. Inti Malta qiegħed tgħix jew f'xi pajjiż fuq pjaneta oħra? Proposti serji, studjati u dettaljati bħal dawk u tgħid li hu tpaċpiċ? Mela xinu jagħmel GonziPN? Taħwid, paniku u ġenn u U-Turns il-ħin kollu!!
victor ellul
Jan 10th, 19:15
Mela meta il-Gvern hebba ir-rapporti tal-BWSC u ohrajn, Il-PN kellu x'jahbi, skond int. U dawn saru minn flus il-poplu ghal gol-but ta' xi konsulent.
Warren Griscti
Jan 10th, 19:35
Il gas pipeline ilkom min 1999 tajtu bih habib ta. U listudju ta tonio fenech li ma tahdimx fejnom pls. Jew mandux?
Frank Fenech
Jan 10th, 18:41
Minister Fenech's credentials speak for them selves, he doesn't need Karmenu vella's approval, after all he is the minister concerned that together with our Prime Minister they managed to keep Malta afloat whilst a good part of Europe is sinking. The Minister punched so many holes in the Labour Party's proposals that it went down like a stone in water, far from confirming that it is feasable
Doreen Attard
Jan 10th, 18:41
Wow Dr Conrad Mizzi, I think the pl has got another star candidate. He answered all the questions and only those who are not of good will can say that something was amiss in this gentleman. Well done Dr Mizzi well done pl.
jm busuttil
Jan 10th, 19:38
Le Le well Done Well done u zgur veru star. Dan Franco Debono iehor. If labour looses the election jisparixxi qabel iz-zmien.
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 19:45
agreed. I really loved hearing him talking. such a bright person! well done
Ms Sandra Grech
Jan 10th, 21:50
Oh my if This guy is one of the PL's star canidates then it's really scary to think of what the less-than-star ones are
victor ellul
Jan 10th, 18:38
il kuntrattur ikollu jixti vapur biex igib il.gas qal il.ministru.mela jekk naghmel swiming pool ikolli nixti bowser? mhux amateur trid tkun.
R. Saliba
Jan 10th, 19:01
jekk il bowser ikun bilfors ghalik, Iva hekk ikollok taghmel.
Ed Camilleri
Jan 10th, 19:20
Siehbi, jekk int kuntrattur u behsiebek tiehu tender ghal 25 sena, x'taghmel? Tikri l-bowsers jew tixtri li jkun hemm bzonn?!
K Grech
Jan 10th, 19:46
Bil paniku li andhom fuq kollhox qed ihawdu, jigu jaghmlulek paragun li medicina tkun out of stock ma li tal laham ma jkollux kull tip ta laham. Ma jafux fejn ghandhom jaghtu rashom sieheb
Luke Bonnici
Jan 10th, 18:35
looks like a PN's news conference with all that blue ... on a separate note I cannot but congratulate the ToM for the quality of the videos it is posting on the website. They are very informative and give the viewer a very good overview of what is being reported!
Oliver Grech
Jan 10th, 18:34
Maybe when all the reports are published we can give a better analyses hux, Sur MLP.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 10th, 19:00
uffa... u make me feel tired ta.. grow up.. and soon please.. for the benefit of our country!
K Grech
Jan 10th, 19:48
U jekk johorgu int x taghmel? Tibqa tara n-Net jew net2(tvm)? Ghax dawn it tnejn li huma jahdmu bl istess magna u t tnejn mhux ha jwasslulek dak li jkun qed jigi miktub fuq ir-rapport, sakemm ovjament m andekx il kapacita biex tifhmu kollu int
Mr. Mario F
Jan 10th, 18:33
Am getting used to the blue backround in ALL the PL's press conferences. Not a single red tie. Not one torca showing. Why hide the past? The image is fresh, the substance still amateurish. From the past, but still very relevant I guess. Click and enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS7ygueKVFA
Victor Vella
Jan 10th, 18:33
Nispera li Karmenu Vella jerga` ma jiehux xi zball meta fi zmien Sant kien fil-gvern bi zball dahal il-Mellieha bil-yacht minflok il-port!!! Nispera li dan mhux xi zball.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 18:44
Victor Vella: Tidher li ma kellekx argument ! Tonio Fenech sab kappell jigih- KONRAD MIZZI - li kixef il-medjokrita ta' Tonio Fenech u GonziPN ! Ara tibghatux lil Simon Busuttil issa ma Konrad Mizzi !
K Grech
Jan 10th, 19:50
Bhal ma il-PM and the club m andhomx fejn jaqbdu jaghtu rashom bil paniku, daqs tant iehor int sieheb minitix issib xi tghid.
Adrian Vella
Jan 10th, 18:32
PL still refused to publish all the documents to support their arguments. One can present a lot of ideas and projects which may seem pleasant but the Maltese people are willing to see all the facts.
joseph borg st john
Jan 10th, 18:26
Isma xqal wiehed mil ucuh godda tal lejber mur afdah il dan. Tiftakru kemm konna qedin sew meta kien ministru Socjalist biex man semiex il kumidja fil bajja tal Ghadijra.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 18:41
Borg St.John Ara f'hiex qed taqghu ! Car illi Koinrad MIzzi hallikhom bla nifs bir-risposti li ta' ghal kull hmerija li hareg biha Tonio Fenech !
Joseph Micallef
Jan 10th, 19:01
X'argument hu? Għandek xi provi ta' korruzjoni? Mur għand il-pulizija filkaż mhux tpaċpaċ fil-vojt sabiħ. Kumment vojt, bla-sens u inkwetanti għaliex juri l-faqar fl-għarfien li xi wħud għandhom. Jiddispjaċini ħafna.
John Bonello
Jan 10th, 18:25
James you lost the plot now, how come the pipe line is not feasabile because the Pn are being honest about the time frame & the LP proposal is feasabile when it there writen on the wall that the time frame, the fixed tariffs,the estimated cost, the sites every thing about their proposal is undoable the only thing which can be done is converting the power station to gas but everything else is a lie
James Grech
Jan 10th, 19:34
I did not say that the pipeline is not doable. According to Minister Fenech this will take at least 6 more years to be up and running. When the inter-connector is finished, the price will be reduced to arnd 11c per unit, however this reduction will not pass on to us immediately. Enemalta has to pay for this connector. PN's proposal has more leg-dragging & more time before reducing bills, if at all
John Bonello
Jan 11th, 11:51
James and what make you think that MLP proposal will be finished before that, the time frame is a big fat lie, the cost estimates is another big fat lies, if MLP is credable than is should publish the reports to put the voters worries at rest not play hide and seek game. if you was honest about something would you then hide the evidence, or show the evidence to support your claim ????
Max Portelli
Jan 10th, 18:22
Ahjar ma taw proposta xejn il-PL. Kienu jaqghu inqas ghac-cajt. 'Amateur'qallu Karmenu Vella, ghax ma jaghtix daqqa t'ghajn il-mod ta' kif qed jithadded il-partit tieghu qabel ma jiddikjara l-presentazzjoni tal-PN bhala 'amateur'. Ghalekk ilna 25 sena fil-gven, ghax 'amateurs' hux?
Christopher Sammut
Jan 10th, 18:39
Is that all you can say, closed mind that is what a person is so called
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 18:39
Max Portelli: nahseb li l-aktar li se jaqa ghac-cajt hu Tonio Fenech, Gonzi u Simon Busuttil ! jekk smajt lil KONRAD MIZZI ISSA FIL-kONFERENZA STAMPA, suppost li indunajt kemm dan il-progett tal-PL hu mahsub bil-ghaqal. waqt li minn naha ta' GonziPN hlief studji ma nisimghux. Biex imbaghad jiehdu decizzjonijiet hziena !
Max Portelli
Jan 10th, 19:14
U Eddy Privitera, kemm nixtieq li jitilghu l-PL u jwettqu kull ma jghidu u jwaqqghu lil PN ghac-cajt. Imma din mhux xi loghba tax-xorti u l-pjan tal-PL, minn l-informazzjoni li qed jaghtu s'issa, ma jidirx li huwa possibli li jsir fiz-zmien li qeghdin jghidu u l-anqas bl-impatt finanzjarju. Iz-zmien itina parir, veru, imma jien mhux lest noqod niriskja l-vot ghall-kastelli fl-arja!
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 19:37
qallu "amateur" al l-argument li prezenta. ddawwarx diskors.
Max Portelli
Jan 12th, 10:16
Igifieri temmen li l-PL se jrahhas id-dawl u l-ilma? Meta anqas biss iridu jipublikkaw l-istudji li bihom wiehed jista' verament jigudika jekk hux possibli fit-temp ta' zmien li qed jghidu huma. Xi kultant anqas inkun nista' nemmen li qed nara l-istess affarijiet li taraw intkom. Ara veru kaz fejn wiehed jifhem dak li jrid jifhem ghax il-karba ghall-poter kilitu minn gewwa.
L Zammit
Jan 10th, 18:21
If it is so amateurish why the disgraceful language on PL's tv station directed against Minister Fenech.
R Abela
Jan 10th, 18:18
toni no 1.
wara l'interconnecter il prezz ha jinzel ghal 11 cent il unit.
toni no 2.
kif nista nigarantixxi il prezz ta dawl u ilma (wara l'interconnecter) jekk il press tal fuel mghux fiss.
will the real toni stand up!
John Bonello
Jan 10th, 18:29
@R abela
Tonio fenech made the remark regard the gas pipe line the government can not guarantee that the price of gas will remain fixed at a low rate at the demand for gas is growing UK, Holland, germany, US are all opting to gas once the demand for gas goes up the price will be the same as oil. with the interconnector thats fixed because its with the EU grid line
R Abela
Jan 10th, 18:39
IF and that is a big IF, he knows that with the interconnector the price will drop to 11 cents per unit then yes he CAN guarantee the price of electricity.
But we only know one thing for sure that with the pn in power again the prices will RISE and not fall.
James Grech
Jan 10th, 18:14
Be reminded that the PN is claiming that the construction of a gas pipeline, will be a 6 to 7 year project, at best. And though it is also being claimed that the price will be less than the 9c6 mentioned by the PLs prop, the amount of debt incurred by enemalta during this time will make this evenmore unsustainable. Furthermore, not all reduction will be passed on to us.
Andre Calleja
Jan 10th, 18:12
blue ties, blue theme...... hmm someone is envious, not to mention, a copy cat !! simple english says, if you can't beat em, join em!
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 18:29
Andre Calleja. have you listened to Konrad Mizzi's replies to Tonio Fenech ? It seems you did because you could only write about blue ties and such stupidities ! Tonio Fenech will have a very difficult time to sleep tonight !
zammit o
Jan 10th, 18:40
a very eloquent argument .. Labour representatives should not wear blue ties.
Blue is our colour!
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 10th, 18:04
Lejber way of thinking has always amazed me (though not in the positive way)!
Q: Why is our project good?
(Lejber) A: Because they do not agree with us!
Wow! Genius!
While facts show that lejber was always proven wrong whenever THEY did not agree with them!
joe muscat
Jan 10th, 18:19
like when Labour made Airmalta , Sea Malta , BOV etc etc
Mr Alan Zahra
Jan 10th, 18:51
Joe, how could you possibly not mentioned Labour's great ideas which affected all of us:
1. Partnership/Switzerland in Med
2. Abolishing VAT
3. In the making - this unsustainable energy plan @ a cost of €600M at the mercy of a private enterprise with a captive market and no other competitors.
It's a huge strategic mistake to privatise Energy generation on a small island without any competitors
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 19:41
alan, you don't know what you're saying. you can transport LNG in the same oil tankers. both are in the liquid form and both are oils. there is no need to buy new tankers. and even IF we had to buy new tankers we can sell our old ones. labour made mistakes, and so did pn. examples include the minister raise, and divorce, open theater, bwsc, arriva, only investing in renewable energy now.
E Gatt
Jan 10th, 18:03
The Socialists' blue is getting bluer
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 18:30
E Gatt: Now you should realize what competent people Dr. Muscat has around him !
Mr. Mario F
Jan 10th, 18:43
Partit gdid, kuluri godda, ucuh skaduti
E Gatt
Jan 10th, 18:47
@ Eddy Privitera
Competent? Surely you meant deceptive.
twanny borg
Jan 10th, 18:56
@eddy privitera - hekk kien jghid ghal anglu farrugia imma ..........................
Carmel Zammit
Jan 10th, 18:03
I want to see the Gonzipn proposals. PN has changed direction in all aspects. It has become adamantly pessimistic and negative. All constituted bodies recognised the plan as a doable yet For tonio it is a failure. Any account with a pinch of business acumen would endorse the plan a business bright idea. Sunk costs are sunk costs. God forbid they stay for another 5 year term
Eve Axiaq
Jan 10th, 17:55
Tonio kif il proposta tal Labour haditlek jumejn biss biex tistudjaha? Dik x'serjeta hi meta PL ilu xhur jahdem fuqha. Bir ragun jghidlek amatuer Karmenu Vella.
Max Portelli
Jan 10th, 18:18
Daqs kemm hemm zbalji ovji fiha l-proposta, mhux ovja. Anzi dam jumejn nahseb biex ikun prudenti. U jekk inti konvinta milli qieghed jghid Joseph Muscat, inhajjrek serjament tara x'inhi ezatt il-proposta qabel ma titkellem.
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 10th, 18:38
@ Max
La qed tghid hekk sinjal li tifhem sew. Illuminana int.
Max Portelli
Jan 10th, 19:17
Jekk trid, l-informazzjoni hija accessibli ghal kulhadd, idhol u ara u asal ghall-konkluzjonijiet tieghek inti.
Maria Vassallo
Jan 10th, 17:53
KV,
Tonio Fenech ghandu ragun mhux inti jew il-PL.
Imbaghad ghal fejn tinkwiet.
Il-naggoranza tal-maltin se jivvutaw PL anke dawk li gew imcahhda mill-vot.
Andrew Siad
Jan 10th, 18:16
int gejt mcahda bhala mara mil partit tieghek stess biex tivvota imma ma nahsibx li tafu dan ax ghadek zghira jew forsi taghzel li ma tkunx tafu
Roberto Fenech
Jan 10th, 17:51
Konrad Mizzi, just said that it will take 5 - 6 months for the procurement process to take place and 18 months for the new power plant to be operational. Simple math tell me thats 2 years not 1 year.
Can anyone enlighten me please?
Carmel Zammit
Jan 10th, 18:10
What year and Month are we in Roberto????????
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jan 10th, 18:22
Could it be you were not following closely? I always understood it to be 2 years. Even PN spokespersons always alluded to 2 years not being long enough.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 10th, 18:34
Roberto Fenech. The project will be finalised in 2 years time. But the reduction to familes will start in 1 year since the operator will be bound to pay Enemalta ONE YEAR IN ADVANCE. So the reduction in W&E bills will start in 1 year's time !
L Fenech
Jan 10th, 18:45
Sur Eddie Privitera,
Illuminani ftit ax tgerfixt.. Mela it tnaqqis mhux min kif jitla il labour fil gvern kellu jibda? Gifieri minn marzu ta 2013?
Diga mexa bsena!
Halluna!
twanny borg
Jan 10th, 18:52
@eddy privitera - u min huwa dan l-operator li se jintrabat li jhallas il-kontijiet kollha ta' malta b'25 jew 30 fil-mija? isa ghidilna...............
R. Saliba
Jan 10th, 19:04
bound to pay Enemalta ONE YEAR IN ADVANCE?!!!!! LOL!! You surely have no idea what oyu are talking about.
joe caruana
Jan 10th, 19:19
Eddy: are you serious in telling us that the operator is going to pay Enemalta to reduce W & E bills in advance for a whole year? Who's this fictitious operator who is ready to accept this deal?
John L Galea
Jan 11th, 07:27
@L Fenech: Dak int qed tivvintah.
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