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Labour's water and electricity proposals would lead to 'higher taxes'

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Labour’s plans for a reduction in water and electricity rates would fail and lead to higher debts which would have to be paid through higher taxes or tariffs, Finance Minister Tonio Fenech said this afternoon.

Addressing a news conference, Mr Fenech said DNV Kema’s recommendation confirmed that a gas pipeline as proposed by the government was cheaper than Labour's proposal.

The PL’s proposals, unveiled last Tuesday, would mean another €200 million at least would be required for infrastructure to be built in Malta. The PL said the proposed plant was estimated at €166 million, but in 2009, Bateman’s tender offer with the same technology was of €186 million for a smaller 150 MW plant.

The cost would, therefore, be closer to €240 million. Additionally, Labour also failed to account for the costs related to the acquisition of tankers, and other infrastructure. Mr Fenech pointed out that Labour’s imagery conveniently failed to show the true size of the storage tanks required.

To cover the capability of the gas tanks being proposed, two to three vessels would have to be dedicated to this operation, built purposely for this 25-year project. These vessels would cost at least €50 million each.

Moreover, no maritime study was carried out to see if a ship would be able to berth with the available infrastructure.

A jetty would probably also have to be built and this was estimated to cost around €50 million.

Labour’s proposal cost closer to €600 million rather than the €370 million the party was claiming. This cost more than the government's interconnector and extension and yet, the PL wanted the people to believe they would reduce the rates, Mr Fenech said.

The minister said that standard power purchase agreements did not provide for a price guarantee for 10 years and an agreement which did provide for such a guarantee would be far more expensive than Labour was claiming.

He said that in the past 10 years the cost of gas had shot up in line with the price of oil. He noted that estimates that Labour would generate electricity at 9c6 per unit did not come from their consultants' report. Labour refused to say how they got to this figure or what the energy mix was going to be.

It was a figure Labour's energy expert Konrad Mizzi came up with without saying how.

The government had been wanting to opt for gas for a long time but all studies carried out had shown that this was not viable.

The government remained committed to give the people the cheapest possible energy in a sustainable way.

The minister said that the timeframes given for the implementation of the Labour's proposal were also unrealistic. Labour was proposing to cut tariffs years before their project could materialise.

Moreover, Labour’s proposal isolated Malta from the EU, which wanted the whole union to be joined with gas pipelines in one united grid.

Since the EU knew that Malta and Cyprus were cut off from the mainland, it had accepted to help financially.

Labour’s project would not receive EU assistance because it breached European strategy even though it was more expensive than the government’s option.

Mr Fenech said that the government had today also published, on the Finance Ministry’s website, all gas studies it had carried out.

Labour’s proposal was a gimmick the same way its proposal to remove VAT in 1996 had been.

The minister's presentation can be read in the pdf link below.

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Edward Mallia

Jan 11th, 09:14

The problem is that another Minister (George Pullicino) and another "STUDY" (reported in the Proposal for a National Energy Policy) asserted that an LNG terminal backed by a 60,000m3 storage would be the most feasible option. Was Min. Fenech trying to scare Min. Pullicino? Can Min. Fenech spare a very few words from his "niagara falls" presentations to give us poor sods a credible answer?

Edward Mallia

Jan 11th, 09:22

On second thoughts Min. Fenech may be right after all. The panic which gripped Enemalta on the occasion of the Mercaptan leak at Qajjenza, the hurried transfer to and burning of Mercaptan on the vast steppe of Bahrija, the barrage of lies, the passing of bucks, the "denials" of ministers, chairmen, MEPAs and other officials, indicate clealrly that we would not be able to cope with an LNG leak.

Joe M Borg

Jan 11th, 05:49

Those who got PN's/EU's generous financial support to install PV systems are getting '0' balance, or at least, near zero, depending on their lifestryle. And there are 6,000 who saw sense in this scheme, and invested. So it's NOT only Tonio who has a '0' balance. Now your Joseph has woken up to the fact that Malta might one day have PV energy. It has been here for years, thanks to PN, Joseph!

Joe M Borg

Jan 11th, 05:54

Yes, and Joseph wants to add 600,000,000 to Malta's debts! He didn't even have the money to pay for a serious study by experts, and all this plan is pure guesswork. They 'forgot' to include the expence of transporting gas by ship to Malta. Or probably they found a 'volunteer' willing to bring it free of charge. And with a gas pipeline already planned, WHO needs ships for gas? Imagination!

Steven Smith

Jan 11th, 08:07

what planet do you live on? Malta economy is one of the healthiest in europe !

Peter Paul Farrugia

Jan 11th, 08:47

@Steven Smith

Sure Mr Smith, and it was even healthier when PN took over the govermnet after Dom Mintoff, little or NO National Debt !... plus the comparison is being made to countries such as Spain and Greece... does'nt look so healthy after you take these factors into consideration ...

Joe M Borg

Jan 11th, 05:58

Charles. Jekk INTI ghandek memorja, m'hemmx ghalfejn tkun tajba hafna (!), fl-2008 kien hawn il-credit crunch, LI MA KISSRITX LIL MALTA, bhal Cipru, li tant ihobb Joseph! Dwar il-figuri tal-PL, 'insew' izidu l-ispiza tal-vapuri biex iwasslu l-gas. Forsi sabu lil min iwassalulhom b'xejn?? Insew ukoll li se jkun hawn pipeline tal-gas, SPONSORJAT mill-EU, u m'ghandniex bzonn il-vapuri ta' Joseph!

Joseph Camilleri

Jan 10th, 23:39

Dream on eddie privitera dream on I prefer the pipe line than a bomb in marsa xlokk
mela issa il power station saret tajba? kemm ghamiltu hgejjeg? issa tar kollox mar rih? Ara vera partit tal lejber biddiltu kollox barra il mentalita!

Joe M Borg

Jan 11th, 06:02

Eddie. Kull min segwa l-konfer. stampa MA RAX ir-rapporti tal-esperti li qabbad il-PL! L-espert Konrad 'nesa' jinkludi l-ispiza tat-trasport tal-vapuri. Forsi ghandi xi habib li se jgibulu b'xejn?? Forsi PL qed jibzghu mill-babaw, ghax s'issa ghadhom ma tfaccawx ir-rapporti serji li suppost saru. Kulma qal Joseph, hu li se jibghatlek ufficjal fil-familja jaralek il-fridge, shower, washroom!

jm busuttil

Jan 10th, 18:45

@ Charles Massa

If you are commenting you must have seen the press conference and you would have obviously seen all the documents presented ( not the one above) and they should also be on the Ministry web site.

This time around il-hanqa ta' hmar has been heard from your end.

Joe M Borg

Jan 11th, 06:06

Charles Pl ilu snin jistudja, u ma ndunax li l-pipeline tal-gas tal-PN se jkun sponsorjat mill-EU! Dak studju! U nsew ukoll jinkludu l-ispiza tat-trasport tal-gas, (meta se jkollna pipeline u m'hemmx bzonn DAWN IL-VAPURI). Dak studju! U kienu gergru ghax il-power station kbir. Issa se jkun ikbr. Dak studju! Fejnu Tony Zarb? Mhux jinkwieta li l-kumpanija gdida tista tnaqqas il-haddiema?

H. Meilak

Jan 10th, 23:49

There are floating voters and there are others....who pretend to be floating voters.

Brendon Borg

Jan 11th, 02:24

Divided country.....are you serious?

M Borg

Jan 10th, 22:57

I hope you know that in this case it is the " numbers " which are important not the " pictures "

Get the numbers wrong and we have to pay for them !!

R Abela

Jan 10th, 18:23

mr cachia wara l'elezzjoni ha jkun hemm hafna rizenji u ma hemmx ghalfejn nghidlek mil lima partit ha jkunu.

john muscat

Jan 10th, 18:56

Wara l-elezzjoni lewwel li jirrezinja nahseb li jkun Dr. Gonzi min kap tal PN, u jsir Dr. Busuttil.

Mario Buhagiar

Jan 10th, 18:19

petrol can catch fire as well and cause an explosion. should we shut down all petrol stations? I agree that petrol stations within buildings should be closed, however they are still open! and that's by far more dangerous than a powerstation away from buildings. Also, heavy fuel oil is also extremely dangerous as it produces toxic and carcinogens (gases that can cause cancer).

Roberto Fenech

Jan 10th, 17:06

WE are better off off in
1) Employment
2) Education
3) Care for the elderly
4) Environemnt and open spaces
5) Tourism
6) Social Services
7) Better Beaches
8) Best country to retire
9) better choice of products for the consumer
10) travelling through low cost airlines
11) Better roads
12) Better IT services
13) Economy in general

Bizzejjed Sur Bajada???

Mario Buhagiar

Jan 10th, 18:09

@ Robert Fenech
1) Mintoff made more employment than any other PM. Including air malta, sea malta, BOV, hundreds of factories, tarzna, dockyard..
2) Mintoff was the one who got stipends and free education
3) care was taken for the elderly since Mintof times
4) this gas powerstation is the true safeguard for air env.
5) tourism dropped except cruise liners
6)Mintoff made 80% of social services

Mario Buhagiar

Jan 10th, 18:11

@ R. Fenech
7) PN wanted to build a wind farm in ghadira bay!
8) i think its the path way of both PN and PL governments which led to this
9) we are in the EU so trade is open
10) low cost airlines destroyed our company : Air Malta
11) ok (thanks to EU funds)
12) PL never had the chance to do anything with IT since its a new service
13) we got in a recession in the past few years so..

Emanuel Curmi

Jan 10th, 18:27

Dear Mr. Fenech After 25 years one can only progress but don't you think that many of the items you have mentioned have their foundation from a previous administration. I defer from your Environment and Open spaces though. Thanks to this administration the abysmal track record of our environmental credentials has reached a new low ebb while open spaces have long been lost to the building cartel

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 16:37

MLP promise is not feasible because it is a promise made on behalf of others who will not want to deliver and who have no obligation to do so. If you are transferring responsibility for power supply to the private sector, you can’t tell the private sector how to price what it is selling.

Kenneth Williams

Jan 10th, 16:45

Meta jkun wahdu kollox ok...imma meta jkun ma Conrad ma jiqafx jinterompi. Trid tisma lilu biss..anki l prezentatur kellu jwaqqfu. U ghandu wahda tajba ta il mistoqsijiet li jistaqsuh ma jwiegibhom QATT. Jekk ma temmnux araw Realta tal bierah u tkunu tafu x qed nghid...Brian staqsih 3 darbiet KEMM META U KIF ser irahhas il kont tad dawl jekk jerga jitla.

L Zammit

Jan 10th, 16:47

PL's power station up in smoke. Bravo Tonio.

David Bezzina

Jan 10th, 18:03

If anything,the PL's plan revealed the lack of planning that the PN has in the energy sector forcing the PN to admit that the electricity tariffs can be reduced after continuously saying that they cannot with LG also voting against reducing the tariffs in parliament.At least Labour has a person that has the expertise in the energy sector,unlike PN.

S Borg

Jan 10th, 17:44

Really? And the so called experimental power station, paid in full, and to be converted by PN to work with gas as well (as it should have been from starters), is delivering in your opinion?

S Borg

Jan 10th, 17:49

Well said.
You forgot to mention also the special containers they had to buy to transport and dispose off the waste generated by the new experimental power station.

Kenneth Williams

Jan 10th, 16:34

Ma ghandix dubju ...Jekk smajt lil M Brigulgio l bierah fuq Realta tinduna l fejn jigbdu l AD. Biex tasal tghid li tuza HFO flok il gas ghax irhas ma ghandux fejn jasal izjed M Brigulgio.

Donna Parnis

Jan 10th, 17:01

H Meilak, AD will go with whatever the PN say as they really have no ideas of their own anyway. They always have and always will. AD are like PNs broken arm.

H. Meilak

Jan 10th, 21:04

Donna Parnis, in my opinion you are quite wrong here. Nearly all Labour supporters will say yes to anything projected by Labour and nearly all PN supporters wll say yes to anything projected by PN. AD is the only credible party.....love them or hate them.

Donna Parnis

Jan 10th, 17:02

And Gonzis interconnector is still at the same stage it was in 1999, And they say PN look to the future, Yes the look but dont do anything about it. LP look, learn and deliver.

ANTHONY PAVIA

Jan 10th, 16:24

A very good point Mr Paris. The PN's record is well known. People may come to their own conclusions. What I find baffling, is that suddenly nothing is doable or possible. Therefore, I cannot fathom why we still suffer power cuts, the inter-connector project is still not approved, the gas pipeline is 7 years away,if eventually approved, the BWSC plant uses the dirtiest fuel possible, etc, etc,.

Kenneth Williams

Jan 10th, 16:23

Ghadu l anqas hu lest il kuntratt ahseb hu ara kemm ser jkun lest il pipeline sa 2014

David Bezzina

Jan 10th, 16:31

U mela...kollox dalwaqt ikun lest kumbinazzjoni !

Chris Borg

Jan 10th, 16:36

Ikun lest April 2014? Taf li ghadhom ma hargux il-permess biex jibda jsir ix-xoghol tla-interconnector minn naha ta' Sqallija? Mela m'ghamilniex mill ewwel hekk flok infaqna dawk il-miljuni kollha sabiex naghmlu il-BWSC bil-HFO? Jien ma rridx xi Arriva ohra ghalhekk mhux se nafda lil Tonio aktar. Darba iva, darbtejn le.

joseph borg st john

Jan 10th, 16:47

Kenneth ahseb u ara kemm se tkun lesta il powerstation fantasija tal lejber.

Peter Montebello

Jan 10th, 16:49

Kenneth, il-ministru fenech qal li sal 2014 ikun lest l-interconnector MHUX IL-PIPELINE. Ghal pipeline ta' madwar 6-7 snin ohra.

Carmel Borg

Jan 10th, 16:26

I would use exactly your same words except one. I will change the word "excuse" with "fact".

Jesmond Abela

Jan 10th, 16:03

Mr Borg - very smart!!

Matthew Micallef

Jan 10th, 16:14

I am sorry but that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Whats the difference? Raising taxes so that we can lower electricity and water? what does that solve. The money is still coming out of your pockets. What we need is our water and electricity bills lowered without touching anything else.
PN haven't been able to do this and I doubt LP will either.

M Borg

Jan 10th, 16:15

I hope that you are joking. ! Maybe you do not have a luxury car, or you do not travel, smoke of drink etc but if taxes are increased I am afraid even you will be taxed.

Not only that if the " rich " are over taxed prople might lose work so even if " you " are not taxed you will end up without a job. Not something to look forward to !!

J. Muscat

Jan 10th, 16:38

Dear Mr. Borg if you increase the tax on high earners they will leave the island. For every one high earner who leaves you will need 10 low earners to pay more taxes eventually!

LOUIS JOSEPH BORG

Jan 10th, 17:15

very wrong M BORG
i drink alohol,travel alot and own 3 cars and pay thousands of euro per year for my children education!
but as long as taxes are not on vital things so be it!

Mark Spiteri

Jan 10th, 16:25

The standard of living has increased so much under the PN that the Marsa power station couldn't be switched off Mr. Schembri...most people can afford an AC now.

David Bezzina

Jan 10th, 16:38

@Mark Spiteri : The Marsa Powerstation is a constant reminder of the PN's failure to tackle the energy issues whilst in power.If I may remind Mr.Spiteri,there were beggars on the streets when Labour came into office in 1971.The progress by Malta during these last 30 years was coherent with other industrialized countries and both parties contributed towards that progress.

Alfred Vassallo

Jan 10th, 16:09

Now just stay quite as your Government did in these last 25 years..... and watch things take shape...just sit back and relax...although I am quite sure that something the pn apologists can't do....too much to loose eh?

joseph borg st john

Jan 10th, 17:15

Vassallo in your dreams tell your beloved lejber to publish the details if they have any LOL

Daniel Soler

Jan 10th, 15:57

l-interconnector ikun lest March 2014. Dak il pipe line 5 years.

R Casha

Jan 10th, 16:04

Biex qed tiskanta....Gonzi ma ppublikax kuntratt li permezz tieghu kien ser jitwikka bl-Isptar St. Philips! Issa il-PL ghandu 9 gimghat biex jispjega kollox...allura trid tkun kalm u tistenna ftit filwaqt li tiftah widnejk u tifhem mhux biss tisma.

Simon Fenech

Jan 10th, 16:21

It is because no body can do miracles. If labour is so certain to be in government they should share all the details so those who do not wear spectacles of any color can judge at face value and vote accordingly. But as usual with labour it's give me a signed blank cheque and then I will send you the bill. If Labour wins it will be due to disgruntled nationalists and not due to this issue for sure!

Kenneth Williams

Jan 10th, 16:26

Veru ma tisthux...Jien ghadni nistenna il kuntratt tas St Philips...il kuntratt tas CEO ta l AirMalta....il kuntratt tal BWSC...tal Waste serve u elf kuntratt iehor.

Mario Camilleri

Jan 10th, 16:59

Imma kemm qed tahsbuna cwiec Sur Bonello? X'ismijiet ta investituri trid? Il-Pl wera il-pjanijiet tieghu, issa jekk ikun fil-gvern johorgu it-tenders u imbaghad tkun taf l-ismijiet ta min jixtieq jinvesti f'dan il-progett. Niggarantilek jien li kieku semma xi isem ta xi investitur kontu tohorgu tghidu li dan tal-qalba ux? u li il-process ivvizjat....u li ma tawx cans lil investituri ohra.....

David Bezzina

Jan 10th, 16:45

Sour Grapes,Mr.Cauchi !

Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO

Jan 10th, 17:10

To try to strengthen our point of view we tend to pepper our argument which may have validity with added flights of fantas. I agree with you that there are many LNG carriers which can be contracted even on short term basis to ship LNG and shipping prices are on the decrease. The only problem might be to match the holding tanks with a normal tanker size of over 135 thousand cubic metres.

C Cassar

Jan 10th, 16:02

Sakemm ikollu l-pipeline ghax kien prattiku u nduna li bil-vapuri ma tistax tahdem... u se ttella' l-spejjez. Allura qal ha ngib PS li kapaci tahdem kemm HFO u GAS. Fil-bidu nuzaha fuq l-HFO li huwa l-irhas zejt u mbaghad once li jkollna l-pipeline naqilbuha GAS. L-pipeline jrid jigi bil-fondi ta' l-EU u tafu li dawn jiehdu z-zmien.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jan 10th, 16:04

Ghamel power station jahdem bil-heavy oil imma li jista jigi kkonvertit ghal-gas aktar tard meta il-gas ikun process vijabli u dan sar biss wara li l-EU setghet tghin biex nidhlu ghall-ispiza ta' pajpijiet li jghaqqduna mal-kontinent.

Vince Piscopo

Jan 11th, 06:08

With all due respect Dr Saliba allow me to disagree with you. Why should we wait for the interconnector to start implementing measures (a long standing 7year-project still inconclusive by the PN govt) when we now know that there is another feasible option proposed by PL to expediate our bid to reduce energy tariffs in the best interests of bettering finances for businesses and families?

Mark Spiteri

Jan 10th, 16:28

jien pero sa nivvota PN

Mr. Mario F

Jan 10th, 16:46

Muscat has a dream for every opportunity to win him votes.

Andrew Cumbo

Jan 10th, 16:18

Lanqas li kieku ħa nagħmlu Power Station taħdem bl-ilma għax ukoll issibu xi tmaqdru. Mur ġibna ħa nagħmlu power station taħdem bil- faħam x' kontu tagħmlu izjed.

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 16:50

@ Andrew Cumbo dan mhux jien qed imaqdar imma qed nurik il-fatti ta Bloomberg New Energy Finance.

Andrew Cumbo

Jan 10th, 17:17

Sur Bartoli, jigifieri kif qieghed tghid int għandna nibqaw nħadmu Power Station bil-HFO b'detrriment għall saħħitna. Tista tispjegali kif allura il- Gvern għandu pjannijiet li l- Power Station tal- BWSC jaqliba għall gas? Meta naslu għall din il- qelba il- gas ħa jkun irħas?. U jekk il- pjanijiet kienu li fil- futur taqleb għall gas għalfejn il- PN ma għamiliex mal- ewwel?

f. zammit

Jan 10th, 17:17

Titkellem hekk sinjal li qijed tajjeb taht pn
Tkellem ma zghir mhux ma sinjur sihbi

W. Cassar

Jan 10th, 15:48

Reading your comment is being kind!

Richard Caruana

Jan 10th, 15:53

Quite right.

Where are the experts that talked their mouth off during the BWSC saga? Evarist Bartolo, Joe Mizzi (who knows exactly where we can find oil), et al.

Abe Sammut

Jan 10th, 15:50

Kemm int funny. Bhalma ghamel bwsc heavy fuel oil u qal li kien behsibom juzaw tal gas. Mela 250 million interessi fuq5-6 billion qishom m huma xejn imbaghad 350 million ghal poplu malti u ghawdxi biex jghin il familji kollha qieghed jghidilna ara min fejn ha iggibu il flus. Ara bieb il belt ghal hamiem u bridge ghal bahar u theatru ikrah malajr nefaq bl addocc li ma ggwadanjajna xejn.

Joe Vella

Jan 10th, 15:14

Alex Azzopardi, instead of empty words, why not take Tonio Fenecch to task on any issue that the Minister raised?

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:38

veru....Jitkellem bil-fatti.....mhux bid-duhhan jew bil-"GASS"

Joe Falzon

Jan 10th, 15:16

Are you serious? Gas only can be transported from the Gas Carriers that are ships to the newly built terminals on the unstable land which the PL di not forcast. no dolphins nor the freeport can be of an excuse to the PL and while the ships are not that the usual ones which transport containers, there are very limited number of these which are built purposesly for a number of stations.

Joe Vella

Jan 10th, 15:19

Adrian, where is berthing at the free port and the connection to the Power Station priced in the PL proposal? It is nowhere to be find in the PL proposal. So the Minister is right in stating that the PL proposal is underestimated. Neither the investment that is required to rehabilitate the land to build the Gas tanks costed in the PL proposal.

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:37

THe LP proposal SAYS that new ships need to be built, not Tonio Fenech.

Read the presentation. Yes, it is far from detailed and very sketchy.
It stinks of a done deal...????Bateman perhaps???

Adrian Borg

Jan 10th, 16:30

Mr Joe Falzon
Yes, I am serious if gas can be transported to Malta in a Pipeline how can it not be transported from a terminal to the Power Station. I am certain that your maritime knowledge is very limited to state that Gas carriers are not a common type of ship.
Mr Joe Vella
I never did say that there will be no cost but for a Minister to write it off outright is unheard of.
Mr Denis Pace
My com

Mark Spiteri

Jan 10th, 16:32

Are you serious stating that you can store gas at the freeport...and do you think the shipping companies using the freeport would like the idea...unbelievable

Adrian Borg

Jan 10th, 16:57

Mark Spiteri
Please read before making comments, I never said that the gas is to be stored at the free port.

Oliver Grech

Jan 10th, 15:02

That comes at an expense too, Mr. Camilleri...and the labour did not even account for that.

jm busuttil

Jan 10th, 15:11

@ Mr Andrew Camiller

Did not know that these come cheap. Hallina and get you facts right.

Joe Vella

Jan 10th, 15:24

Andrew do you really believe that there are ships out there waiting for the Government of Malta to lease them? These ships costs about 50 million Euros to build, who is with that kind of Investment keeping these ships docked waiting for Joseph Muscat to call. Where is the security of supply

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:43

The LP proposal SPECIFICALLY says that new ships will be built.

Ask JM not TF....

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jan 10th, 14:54

Have you never heard of gas being held in tanks elsewher - or huge amounts of fuel? Where do you think the gas or the petrol you buy is held until distributed? Jahhasra kemm thobbu tirrepetu hmerijiet.

Jeff Scicluna

Jan 10th, 14:57

what about the gas tanks right next to our residential areas?

Brian Gatt

Jan 10th, 15:14

600Million Gas bomb? bdejna nirrepetu bhal papagalli !!

R Axisa

Jan 10th, 15:15

Mela kull fejn ikun hemm petrol station li tforni l-gass ghall-karozzi hemm bomba! U halluna! Jekk l-affarijiet isiru skont ir-regoli tas-sigurta' skont EU standards, m'ghandux ikun hemm periklu. Saqsi xi engineer kompetenti u malajr jghidlek!

Mario Camilleri

Jan 10th, 15:16

The most bombastic bomb we have to shoulder is EneMalta's debt which is in the region of over €800m and that is not in Delimara but a burden on every citizen.

Jean Paul Micallef

Jan 10th, 15:17

LNG being a bomb is a myth for non technicals

Andrew Cumbo

Jan 10th, 15:54

All of us that live in the South of Malta want the power station to work with gas. Even if there is not going to be a cost reduction in our bills, for our health it is worth to have a power station with gas. Your argument does not make sense, as you are saying we already have two gas bomb plants that distribute our domestic gas to our homes.

Hossam Helwani

Jan 10th, 16:04

Where are the protests we had way back in 1988? The bonfires and the screams of pollution? and now we are creating a huge gas bomb!!!! how inspiring lejber we are perplexed.

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 15:12

Every one remember the forced introduction of 33 new taxes in 1996 and a sales tax(CET) of 29% this just to cover up the MLP gimmick of VAT removal. Even Lino Spiteri resigned after such a gimmick. At least Alfred Sant only lasted 22 months since he was voted off by another MLP MP and the economy wheel started turning again.

Adrian Gouder

Jan 10th, 15:21

Just a note to say the PN government consistently reduced the tax burden year after year.

Joe Vella

Jan 10th, 15:26

W.Cassar, Gonzi did away with 25 taxes that your PL Governments had imposed. That is the record.

m farrugia

Jan 10th, 15:28

can you list taxes plse or are you referring to yearly income tax cuts,further tax savings for families through parent tax, one year tax free for working mothers, tax rebates to parents of children in chldcare & private schools,substantial increase in childrens allowance, dirty cheap flights for families.....

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:36

Peanuts....
Wait for Labour, man!

T Mifsud

Jan 10th, 14:51

The PN are doing the Interconnector which the PL has to finish when in power

A Vella

Jan 10th, 14:54

Learn to read Schembri, PN's suggestions are very simple and sure - Interconnector and gas pipeline (when aproved), together with solar energy and possible wind farm. We know about this plane way before last Monday, and after all the drama built around Labour's policy there are still more credible and stable choices.

S. Cuschieri

Jan 10th, 15:03

PN have been coming up with suggestions and acting upon them for the past years now, for e.g. the pipeline which PL will go against despite EU proposals & funding.... I think it's only natural for PN to explain the consequences of such a proposal made by PL, which seems to be lacking a lot of important details!

HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI

Jan 10th, 15:19

The PN has been long ago telling us about their suggestions but first you have to take off your ear plugs and concentate on what the PN have been saying all along.
1. Finalise financing and complete gas pipe connector with EU help.
2. Change new power station from fuel oil to gas. Already producing cheaper energy.
3. Connect to the European grid.
4. Reduce W&E rates, if possible.
Dik is serjeta

Joe Vella

Jan 10th, 15:32

D. Schembri, the PN doesn't have to come up with any suggestions. The PN plans are in the working. Starting with Delimara 2 which already have reduced the cost of Electricity generation to about 15Cents per kilo watt. Secondly, the inter-connector is a work in progress and will be operational by March 2014. ...cont./

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:33

European Grid... March 2014
Gas Pipeline (EU funded) after 2015 - EU Budget.
Photovoltaic farms...



Are you blind or deaf or both?

Joe Vella

Jan 10th, 15:36

Cont... Once the inter-connector comes on line the production of Electricity by kilo watt will further be reduced to 11 cents. Also, once financing is guaranteed by the EU for the a permanent Gas pipeline to Europe and the pipeline is in place the cost of Electricity per kilo watt will be further reduced to 8.7 cents per Kilo watt, ..cont/

B Vella

Jan 10th, 15:47

PN have no solutions whatsoever.........!! their Policy on energy is the one we have today.!

Mr Anthony Briffa

Jan 10th, 15:56

The PN's proposals are already in place and it do not need to go about them the way the PL is going. It is logical if production cost come down along will the tariffs. The inter connector's commissioning in the 1st quarter of 2014 is the only way PL can reduce the tariffs slightly. Furthermore I am not surprised by PL's big talk, after all it made the tariffs a political issue. Now enjoy it.

Joe Vella

Jan 10th, 15:47

Mark Demicoli, what Gonzi said that no Government could guarantee to promise to reduce tariffs because no body knows what the price of the commodity is going to be in the future. Prices of Eledticity tariffs can go down with the savings of of the inter-connector and the permanent gas link will provide, as long as, the price of the commodity doesn't go up.

Mark Demicoli

Jan 10th, 17:19

J.Vella - there is no if's here, but simply that the PN proposal would cut tarrifs!

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130110/local/Gonzi-says-Government-proposal-would-cut-tariffs.452597

Oliver Grech

Jan 10th, 15:02

He just did...unlike your party.

Brian Gatt

Jan 10th, 15:15

Well said

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:35

Inventing amounts????
How naive can you get?

Richard Caruana

Jan 10th, 15:47

If you read the whole feature you will find that these have been published on the Ministry's website. Just go and have a look and you'll see how much it costs to work with gas.

This scheme by JM and his buddies is nothing but hot air.

Oliver Grech

Jan 10th, 15:55

Just in case you need assistance to find them. Here they are: http://finance.gov.mt/default.aspx

M. Cachia

Jan 10th, 14:56

Honk Kong - kissru muntanja u bnew ajruport f'sena!

Winston Zahra smajtu b'widenejja jghid li kull lukanda li bena, dejjem zamm ma l-istima u maz -zmien!

Ghaliex il-gvern ghandu jnuk differenti! Benchmarks = The Name Of The Game!

Mario Camilleri

Jan 10th, 15:13

Pero żgur inqas minn 15-il sena mhux daqs l-isptar Mater Dei.

S. Cuschieri

Jan 10th, 15:06

what cards are on the table?? PL just came up with a plan which is a fairytale & which will ultimately not lead to a decrease in the W&E bills cause the expenses are too much in the first place.

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 15:13

the PM announced last November that the Dellimara power station would eventually be converted to gas.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121112/local/new-gas-plant-inaugurated.44512

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:34

Already there.......Interconnector grid, EU gas pipeline!

Joseph John Camilleri

Jan 10th, 15:37

What cards on the table? Playing with figures to impress. A fully operational powerstation in two years time when we already have two power stations. If this is not a gimmick what is? And who are the fools to accept to build and operate this powerstation and wait for their profits in ten years time. This is fishing for votes.

Peter Paul Farrugia

Jan 10th, 15:54

You do not have to be a genius to figure out, in November, that one of the ways the PL plans to lower energy bills is by turning to Gas, Muscat had already proposed it.. But what really makes any PN excuse sound faint right now is that notwithstanding their claims of having had the knowledge years ago,they still did nothing about it and went ahead with the monstrosity that is the BWSC extension.

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jan 10th, 14:56

Shipping is in a slump and LNG carriers are easily available for charter. Please do some research before you comment.

Brian Gatt

Jan 10th, 15:17

Ever heard of Chartering of vessels? worst case scenario they need to dreg the area near the Dolphin to eliminate the tanker draft problem..

Mr CHARLES TANTI

Jan 10th, 15:19

Mela ma tafx li illhom jithlu dawn il vapuri gew il port ta mxlokk marcus.Dawn il vapuri jezistu u mux sa jinbnew ghax ga ghawn bhalhom.

Marlon Borg

Jan 10th, 15:28

On which world are you living? "you don't just find these vessels" - are you serious? Have you ever heard of chartering maybe?

S. Cuschieri

Jan 10th, 15:09

Ma naqbilx.... Jekk qed jipprovaw jispjegaw lil poplu x'inhuma l-proposti tal-PL (ghax meta ssaqsi lil xi membru tal-PL ma jafux kif se jirrispondu), dan ma nghidlux biza, izda huwa mod kif tfiehem lin nies x'inhi s-sitwazzjoni. L-PL hareg jghid li se jrahhas il kontijiet bi 25% - u din hi l-figura li n-nies se jiehdu pjacir jaraw. Izda l-verita hija hafna iktar differenti minn hekk!

m farrugia

Jan 10th, 15:32

diga qalulek bizzejjed xse joffru - aktar rohs fit taxxa, aktar investiment massiv fl eduzazzjoni u sahha bxejn, aktar jobs ta kwalita ghal min lest jghin ruhu u jistudja, pipeline tal gas finanzjat mill EU bil possibilita li enemalta tkun f pozizzjoni ahjar li toffri prezzijiet ahjar imma mhux ghas skapitu tal finanzi tal pajjiz, aktar investiment fi spazji miftuha ( li bhalhom diga saru ghexiere

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:35

Xoghol, Edukazzjoni u Sahha.

Denis Pace

Jan 10th, 15:42

Kampanja PL = POPULIZMU U DEMAGOGIJA....

Il-biza thal-poplu mhux il-PN jaghmilha....izda t-tifkiriet tal-gvernijiet Socjalisti..

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jan 10th, 14:57

Where and when did government give this commitment- can you quote when and where please?

Daniel Muscat

Jan 10th, 15:30

very well said.

Joe Falzon

Jan 10th, 15:19

Well then you are just living on the own!! Even the biggest economy in Europe has praised Malta's abilities to succeed in this crises.

Brian Gatt

Jan 10th, 15:27

Thallatx il-Hass mal-Gass no pun intended. This is a professional report backed up by an internationally re-known agency. Ex Minister Tonio Fenech is firing away figures without having any proof to back them up, but then again what would you expect form someone with his track record. Worst Finace Minister ever. I hope that this story end with the PL in Govt so we can then live happily ever after

Joseph John Camilleri

Jan 10th, 15:39

Vera trid tkun cuc mil-kbar biex tibla' din. Jitnellhu bl-intelligenza tal-poplu.

S. Cuschieri

Jan 10th, 15:13

If we really are ruined then we wouldn't have good educational systems, a free & good health care system, a good quality of life (just try going out for a stroll and see that all restaurants & bars are full of people & at times fully booked from weeks before) and to top it all off good reviews from the EU (which is definetely not biased)....

S. Cuschieri

Jan 10th, 15:14

not really....

J. Grima

Jan 10th, 14:52

Imma d-'devil you know' xorta devil jibqa'!

Jean Paul Micallef

Jan 10th, 15:20

U le

R Casha

Jan 10th, 15:59

are you voting for the first time?! Cause from your reasoning, you sound so immature!

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jan 10th, 14:58

So for you its common sense to come up with all sorts of lame excuses and invent numbers and figures. No wonder you support GonziPN!

Ms Rudi Mcbeal

Jan 10th, 17:36

Having common sense means being able to make the difference between deciding for yourself whether what is being said is the truth, BASED on FACTS, and not repeating like a parrot that they are "lame excuses' and "invented numbers" just because you choose to believe them because you want to believe them regardless, Mr Camilleri.

jm busuttil

Jan 10th, 15:13

Le kellu cans wkoll Alfred Sant.

Kemm tinsew maljar ta' Labour imma ahna Le

Peter Paul Farrugia

Jan 10th, 16:30

Alfred Sant's proposals, tariffs and taxes were all attempts at averting inflation and a deficit, which unfortunately for our country, were never given enough time to give their fruits. It was Dr Sant alone who had the visibility of forseeing the eurozone crisis which for
How sorry must most of us feel today..after 25 years of wreckless spending and unscrupulous corruption right under our noses.

S. Cuschieri

Jan 10th, 15:16

Jekk il labour jibqa johrog bi proposti bhal dawn nispera li l-PN jibqa jghid LE ghax ifisser li jkunu ghadhom f'sensihom!

Peter Paul Farrugia

Jan 10th, 14:56

Anyone who has ever done feasability studies knows that you have to start from a cost benefit analysis. This was clearly explained by the presentation, as were the other benefits such as better quality air for the south, something which the present goverment has unfortunately never tackled, despite a fully functioning Waste, Air, Radiation and Noise Unit ...

Maria Mangion

Jan 10th, 15:15

Perhaps Tonio can publish the details of the 2 day study that resulted in a 600 million figure. I feel we are being taken for a ride and the only uncontested fact is 800 million euro debt for Enemalta after 25 years of PN.

R Casha

Jan 10th, 14:48

so true mate!!

PL showed a massive improvement in their politcs...but PN are still way back! The famous Mud Thorwing campaign....meta ha jikbru?!

John Bonello

Jan 10th, 14:57

Because the goverment had to wait for the approval of the EU. but again the EU reqiured Enemalta to shut down the Marsa Plant due toxic emissions level beign produced from the plant. So the Gov. opted for a HFO power plant which can be converted later on to gas once the money for the gas pipe line is approved by the EU. Stop watching onenews your getting behind

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jan 10th, 14:45

Have you not read properly - the project is to be mainly funded by the private sector -so what are you on about? Please syop this scaremongering- let's be serious as this is Malta's future at stake.

Leonard Brincat

Jan 10th, 14:45

Mela bhal 5,000,000,000 dejn li hallew tal PN dawk ukoll iridu ihalsuhom uliedna u ulied uliedna habib

Peter Paul Farrugia

Jan 10th, 14:51

Then please explain why it was not implemented.

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 14:51

Jekk qatt jigri, din mhux bhal tal-vat gejja, kummiedja fi 3 atti, inaqqsu min naha u nitriplaw min naha l-ohra. Bhal meta ghamlilna il VAT replacment tax 29% u kelli sahansitra jrizenja il-ministru Lino Spiteri

M. Spiteri

Jan 10th, 14:53

mela bhal smart city, dik ukoll uliedna u ulied uliedna qed igawdu mill 5000 job BAHH li gab dal gvern

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 14:56

MLP promis is not feasible because it is a promise made on behalf of others who will not want to deliver and who have no obligation to do so. If you are transferring responsibility for power supply to the private sector, you can’t tell the private sector how to price what it is selling.

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 15:06

pt 1 Given the understanding that a set of eight PV panels would cut my electricity bill by around half, and assuming the set would cost some €6000 now (without grants), this would mean that a set of four such panels without the subsidy would reduce my bills by 25% and cost me €3000.

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 15:07

PT2 Labour’s proposal is estimated to cost the private sector some 2500 EUR per family, for a reduction of ‘an assumed 25%. With this in mind wouldnt it make more sense for whoever this private investor would be, to invest in a solar farm, with the prices ‘guranteed’ to remain 25% cheaper rather than depend on the assumption that gas prices would not increase?

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 15:09

PT3 Labour keeps insisting on outdated politics by promising the ‘fish’ and not the ‘fishing rod’.
What is more essential is to create a factual operating environment where commercial entities can thrive creating opportunities which in natural distribution will create more opportunities.

C. Bartoli

Jan 10th, 15:09

PT4 When this happens, the price of water and electricity will become irrelevant. This is the only way to solve this issue as energy will always be governed by market prices/forces, meaning, what’s good today may not be good tomorrow.

A Vella

Jan 10th, 14:49

They are already being worked out Peter, the gas pipeline is not something just invented now....To plan how to lay such a pipeline is no quick project and needs time, especially with the EU having to give the go ahead. Many Maltese should wake and smell the coffee after they were taken to dreamland by Joseph, Konrad and co. The more this is scrutinised the more ridiculous it becomes.

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