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Updated - Gonzi: 'Committed to reducing W&E bills' - Muscat reacts

Updated - Adds Joseph Muscat's reaction

Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi insisted today that the government was committed to reducing water and electricity bills.

Asked whether the PN was committed to reducing water and electricity bills through its eventual conversion of the power station to gas, Dr Gonzi said: "We have been saying this. We are proposing to have a gas pipeline to deliver gas to our power station, funded partly be the EU and partly through private investment. Labour has now chosen a different alternative and I would like to know why."

In his comments, made to journalists in Berlin, where he met Chancellor Angela Merkel, Dr Gonzi said he was "flabbergasted" by the fact that Labour's energy proposals were dependent on two government projects which Labour had been criticising for the past five years: the interconnecter and the Delimara power station extension.

He said the Nationalist Party would be giving its detailed reactions on Labour's proposals during a press conference tomorrow.

He said the PN had long said Labour's plans would create a financial hole and the proposals for a gas terminal showed that they would increase dramatically.

"This means they will have ships coming in and out instead of a fixed pipeline," he said.

He said it was also interesting that Labour was refusing to publish all its reports and details and failing to say which investors it had met, when the meetings were held and what was agreed formally or informally.

The PN, he said, would publish its own reports and details in the coming days.

(Hear Dr Gonzi's comments here Prime Minister's comments (.mp3 file))

JOSEPH MUSCAT'S REACTION

In a reaction, Labour leader Joseph Muscat, speaking in Mqabba,  said the Nationalist Party was panicking.

"First they told us it is impossible to lower utility bills, then they told us our proposal is a gimmick and now they are saying they will do they same," Dr Muscat said.

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Mike Abbot

Jan 10th, 14:41

PL’ s profession and well prepared energy proposals!

lol

Anthony Arpa

Jan 10th, 08:23

Jay if a politition comes to your home and when he get in will tell you that outside is raining ,
Go out to see yourself if it's true

joanna farrugia

Jan 10th, 07:23

jekk int komdu sur gauci kompli hallas.l bqija hallina niddecidu ahna x inhu tajjeb ghalina

Anthony Attard

Jan 10th, 07:25

Int bis serjeta? nispera li sarkastikament....... insomma jekk average il-familja tifranka Eur19.75, f'sena tifranka Eur237, Bil flus li tifranka tkun tista tixtri affarijiet ohra........u b'hekk iddur ir-rota

Shaun Camilleri

Jan 10th, 07:28

Bil-kalkolu tajjeb hafna tieghek qieghed tassumi li kulhadd ihallas €948 fis sena

19.75 / 0.25 = 948

Hallina tridx, mela vera qed tahseb li twelidna lbierah.

Mur capcaplu ha jghidlek li ha "jivvota bil-qalb"u jivvota kontra l-ghazla tal-maggoranza fir-referendum!!

J Grima

Jan 10th, 07:47

Thanks Professor! Care to explain why?

Mark Borg

Jan 10th, 16:46

"Labour's apparent electoral edge over the PN manifesto is mainly the water and electricity issue". Wishful thinking Dottere. That is only a taster. Enjoy!

Frank Zammit

Jan 10th, 08:20

You sound like an expert. Why don't you give some advice to GONZI PN on how to stop draining us dry of our money until just before the General Election?

Edward Borg

Jan 9th, 21:12

Sur Mifsud aqra u ifem qabel ma tparla il pipeline li kontu tikkritikaq intkom ma tghid xejn fuqu?

vincent Lia

Jan 9th, 21:29

Thomas jekk jitla il PL se jrahhas id dawl bil progetti li ghamel il PN. Power station gdid li JM ilu jmaqdar u gas pipeline u interconnector. Il progett tal PL hu non starter, u lanqas biss hemm bzonnhu. Progett biex juri kemm hu bravu u jfalli lil Malta. U jekk ghadek ma indunajtx hadd ma jaf x se jsir, bniedem irrisponsabli bhal JM jwieghed il hut fil bahar ghax il prezz taz zejt had ma jafu.

B Ellul

Jan 9th, 22:53

Iddahalx l'Alla fin-nofs ghax b'argument tieghek jien ukoll nighd Alla jilliberena mil purrcinellati ta Muscat.

R Curmi

Jan 10th, 04:36

naqbel 200% ma li qed tghid habib

J Martinelli

Jan 9th, 23:45

A few months back Dr Gonzi explained that at current oil prices it was impossible to reduce tariffs. In fact the govt is subsidizing Enemalta some 30 million a year to keep the current tariffs.
Now Joseph is proposing to build a new PS and keep the new extension 'on standby'. Kemm sirna sinjuri Guz!
Do you think that if lower bills were possible the govt wouldn't have lowered them already?

Edward Borg

Jan 9th, 21:13

Good point totally agree with you

J Martinelli

Jan 9th, 23:56

Certainly not by 25% as calculated by Joseph, Scicluna. Mizzi, Mizzi et al.
Pie in the sky - 300 million outlay by private investors!? Dream on Joseph.
Joseph promises a gas PS when gas pipeline is a pipe-dream, 'new' PS (Sargas?) is years away but the guppies swallow the bait by March 9 and expect lower bills on March 10! Heaven help us.
Be real guys, pinch yourselves and try to stay awake.

Tony Zammit

Jan 10th, 05:06

adding to your comment
5000,000,000 millions EUROS Debt.
That Gonzi created

joseph green

Jan 10th, 12:51

Tghodx il flieles qabel ifaqsu habib , ghax fl ahhar elezzjoni diga kien dikjarat tellief il PN u tal PL hargu bi hgarhom jiccelebraw , forsi kont wiehed minnhom int ?

J Martinelli

Jan 10th, 00:05

Bomba daqs il-VAT - CET u cash registers marbuta mal-bumpers tal-karrozzi, mbaghad kellhom jerghu jixtruhom godda?
Bomba daqs meta gholew il-kontijiet tad-dawl meta l-prezz taz-zejt kien ta $12 il-barmil?
Bomba daqs il-mizata fuq kull certifikat tat-tabib?
Wisq probabbli li l-LP qabdu paniku u qed iwieghed l-impossibbli u l-imzazen jibilghu kollox.
Ivvota Lejber u hallas aktar taxxi.

Joseph Micallef

Jan 9th, 20:23

Prosit Tony!! spot on!! Prefect comment!! Come on Gonzi... WHEN, BY HOW MUCH and HOW. We are waiting for your GIMMICKS Gonzi.

Anthony Attard

Jan 10th, 07:33

u mistoqsija ohra. GHALFEJN ISSA MHUX HAMES SNIN ILU?? Kieku Tonio Fenech ma kienx jghidilna li jkollna nidraw bil kontijiet gholjin!! ghax hekk kien qal!!

Joseph Aquilina

Jan 9th, 20:27

Are you joking, revert back to coal. The cheapest and cleanest is Gas.

R Axisa

Jan 9th, 21:18

mela nsejt meta kien hawn il-power station tahdem bil-faham?? Kemm kien ikollna swidija??

Mr Adrian Zahra

Jan 9th, 21:35

I believe the PL submitted it to much more competent individuals.with all respect to.academics. With cheaper energy we will have a tendency to create more jobs as overheads for enterprise especially particular segments of enterprise tourism and hotels manufacturing another one.

Robert Camilleri

Jan 10th, 08:18

I AGREE WITH YOU 100 % JOSEPH MICALLEF

Anthony Attard

Jan 10th, 07:39

The greatest achievements in history were made by PRO-ACTIVE people, others are just RE-ACTIVE, they just re-act!!
PL is proactive and the PN just reacts!!

Robert Camilleri

Jan 10th, 08:25

@ Angelo Vassallo!!! int bis serjeta????

Tony Borg

Jan 9th, 22:25

Mr. Camilleri
My thoughts exactly. He does not want to be the one to sort out the financial mess this country is in. In spite of all the assurances that our financial situation is stable, many doubt that reassurance. I suppose the PN will want to blame PL when the EU start looking closely at our ever rising defecits.

Anthony Attard

Jan 10th, 07:47

No one ever mentioned this before. Good Point. Experts told them that the interconnector must be DC, instead they did the opposite......AC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current

sammy cassar

Jan 9th, 22:55

spot on.

saviour frendo

Jan 9th, 20:04

Dear Noel, please stay calm, definitely that, it is not you that 's going crazy, but HIM.

Joe Pavia

Jan 9th, 19:10

Joseph Borg jekk tiftakar sewwa il 500 euro increment was stopped. Mistake admitted. Don't you make any mistakes? PL does not make any mistakes? Anglu Abela is one. Let the first one without sin cast the first stone! If you believe!

Joseph Buhagiar

Jan 9th, 19:21


Why where they so high because the cannot manage as a business and it is because they have loads of money and surrounded with resources.
They can never understand the impact this has had on the not so fortunate.
They exceed every budget.
And where does the money come from then?

Joe Pavia

Jan 9th, 19:10

They would not know the meaning. It does not exist in their dictionary

Joseph Bugeja

Jan 9th, 20:13

Joe as usual we are not understanding your gibberish!
What are you trying to say? Or are you still dazed with your party's panic stricken reaction?

Pierre Ciappara

Jan 9th, 20:30

Int ghandek zejt f'wiccek? Issa qed taharqek qalbek ghax ha jkun hemm bicca mill-power station f'idejn il-barranin li ha nibbenefikaw minnha int u Jien???? Insejt illi bihhejna il-maltacom, il-mid med bank, il-lottu, il-freeport, Is-shipbuilding, il-pajjiz kollu ikmandat mill-ewropa, il-lira maltija and the list goes on and on?? Jiddispjacini ghalik habib

Warren Griscti

Jan 9th, 19:01

Daniel jahasra taf li tal Marsa bilfors trid talaq ? U taf li tonio Fenech qal li mil BWSC 20% ha juza ? Et tejd li gonzi ha jkecci in nies ukol ? Qabel tikteb kun af il fatti ta.

R Axisa

Jan 9th, 19:37

Daniel Galea - re Enemalta employees, it was confirmed that they will remain working there.

As regards to your independence comment - where were you when Mid-Med Bank (a profitable Maltese asset) was sold to HSBC??????

Eve Axiaq

Jan 9th, 19:55

Daniel f'pajjizi ohra l privat jissuplixxi l-energija.

michael scicluna

Jan 9th, 19:22

A u turn is something that you would do the other way round from what tou originally said.......but im sure gonzi has NO idea how to in this case!!

Mr saviour magro

Jan 9th, 19:22

dea GL Calleja can you explain to me what did you pretend to do JM for us from the chair of opposition?at least be fair.GL with your comments. thank you.

Ms Rudi Mcbeal

Jan 9th, 19:24

Jien nivvota biex il-pajjiz jibqa javanza u jimxi l-quddiem, biex ikompli jitkattar ix-xoghol u il-livell ta l-ghixien ikompli jghola. Il-poplu kollu hekk ghandu jaghmel ukoll, Sur Cassar. Nittama biss li il-maggoranza intelligenti bizzejjed biex taghmel dan.

Imbilli jorhos il-kont tad-dawl u il-pajjiz ma jkomplix javvanza, anzi imur lura, jien u hafna ohrajn ma ahna ha niggwadanjaw XEJN!

John Lusignan

Jan 9th, 19:36

the PL plan is FICTION - its a power point presentation based on one wild assumption after the other. Whatever labour say you know very well that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have the plant up and running in the time frames mentioned - to do so you would have to break EU rules and get rid of the planning authority.Thats just one flaw out of many! Prices will fall with the interconnector the PN is building

Joe Calleja

Jan 9th, 19:55

Yes it is the same one, Yes WE can reduce the bills ...but NOT with the Labour gimmicky so called 'energy plan'.

R Galea

Jan 10th, 03:20

Tonio said "impossible"! Simon said "it's a gimmick". Gonzi makes a U-Turn O.o

Min tridu jemminkom? PN tilef kull kredibilita! Rounding it further up, ironically enough, it was PN who accused Labour as promising everything! And now I ask, min hu iggranfat mas-siggu tal-Poter??

*Joseph Brincat

Jan 9th, 19:19

Armando D`amico Funny how half of you only read the article title.
HAIFof it is ENOUGH >>> ha ha hi MOIRE OF IT ha ha hiiiiiiiiiiiiii

jm busuttil

Jan 9th, 19:58

As they are used be spoon fed junk news by one TV

Matthew Grima

Jan 9th, 23:34

jm busuttil, both sets do the same. and the same claims are thrown at the opposite side.

Joe Pavia

Jan 9th, 19:11

Yes true Joseph Brincat GOD HELP US ALL if PL is in Government.

David Magro

Jan 9th, 19:46

Le siehbi...mhux int qed tohlom izda Gonzipn tant inqabad bil qalziet imnizzel li waqa!

Giov DeMartino

Jan 9th, 20:04

Was it a lie or an error, Ms Muscat.

Eve Axiaq

Jan 9th, 18:35

In-nies qed jghidu ghaliex ipprefera BWSC bil heavy fuel oil meta kellu zmien bizzejjed biex jahseb ghal impjant tal gas kemm ilu fil-gvern. Jien ma nemmnux u bir-ragun.

George Cutajar

Jan 9th, 18:40

It is more than clear that the PN Government has long been working on what Labour came up with now. The only difference is that Labour's proposals will only materialise once some investor comes along who is willing to splash millions. The two articles above are clear proof that the PN has been working on a shift to gas for years before Labour saw the light.

Mr John Borg

Jan 9th, 19:05

Excuse Mr Saliba, but have your the articles you reproduced?

There no mention that the tariffs will be reduced. He simply mentions his wishful thinking that he will convert the BWSC power station he purchased (was it through Yellow Pages?) to gas.

Why did he not buy the gas plant in the first place? Perhaps because somebody would not have pocketed the promised commission?

I wonder...

Mr saviour magro

Jan 9th, 19:29

and JM has being saying this since he was leader of LP before 2011 for sure. and why he did a knew Power station with HFO?get lost sur saliba

John Bonello

Jan 9th, 19:52

@Eve Axiaq,

Because the Marsa power station must be closed within the time frame set by the E.U, and the cheapest option is to have the HOF powered plant until the funds from the E.U to cover the cost of the pipe line are available. In this way we can convert the existing power stations into gas and have a reliable source of supply without privatizing Enemalta.

John Bonello

Jan 9th, 20:03

PT2.Same with the Sarga farce. This is why the MLP is refraining from publishing the documents because it want us to be in the dark regard who is behind in all this gimmick.

marc pace

Jan 9th, 18:28

exactly what i was going to say!!!!

Carmel Zammit

Jan 9th, 18:34

Cut and paste?? The PN had the cheek to alter his policy and go for Heavy Fuel Oil - somerthing which the PL never endorsed. So where is this cutting and pasting????

Doreen Attard

Jan 9th, 18:35

Are your really serious George ? Can't be. If you listented to the detailed explanation by Conrad Mizzi of the PL proposals you wouldn't be writing this. And by the way you said Labour's proposals are partly a cut and paste. Cut and paste from what. The PN until a few weeks ago was saying that utility tariffs cannot be decreased. You got my mind boggled!!!!!!!!!

Martin Saliba

Jan 9th, 18:44

George , il problema hi li gonzi dejjem qal li il kontijiet ma jistawx jorhsu u jekk il PL irahasom irrid izid it taxxi .
Gonzi tijak ijad jigdeb ? Gonzi tijak ha irahas il kontijiet u joghli it taxxi ? Tinsiex tuza kejl wiehed .

John Bonello

Jan 9th, 20:09

@Carmel Zammit

here is the cut and paste read this there's plenty of more to read if you search a bit. p.s welcome to the real world were onetv is no longer blurring you mind:

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110905/local/gas-firing-power-station-remains-government-aim-gonzi.383453

John L Galea

Jan 10th, 07:27

@G Cutajar: The PN had 25 years to do something on energy. The PL has been telling GOnziPN to go for gas, etc, etc. GOnziPN was not interested in solving the energy problem as they were more interested in solving their internal problems. Malta lost 5 years at least which burden was put on us taxpayers. The PL is committed to build on what there is and improve it and its proposals are very sound.

Donna Parnis

Jan 9th, 18:31

Did you not hear JM he said the reductions would start in 2014,,,,,and for businesses 2015, JM gave us a date, Gonzi said it couldnt happen yet now hes done another u turn and says hes committed to reducing the bills, Funny how all of a sudden it can happen, Vote for Gonzi get more lies.

Donna Parnis

Jan 9th, 18:34

Does it really matter who produced the interconnector, it was produced for Malta not for the PN, at least the PL will be using items already in Malta and not getting stuff from scratch which would cost the tax payer more money. Already a savings dont you think

Mr John Borg

Jan 9th, 19:09

Pardon me Mr Mifsud, but could you please specify where the inter-connector is?

As far as I know this project has not started yet! please correct me if i am wrong.

R Axisa

Jan 9th, 19:45

Jekk inti rajt bondi+ il-bierah, imissek taf li l-interconnector huwa parti mill-pjan kollu. Ma nafx minn fejn ivvintajtha li l-interconnector mhux se jintuza. Tonio Fenech il-bierah ghamel enfazi kbira li l-interconnector ghamlu l-gvern tal-PN. Allura dan ifisser li ma jistax jintuza jekk ikun hemm gvern gdid??

Matthew Grima

Jan 9th, 23:30

If the PL is elected, will you be driving on roads resurfaced by the PN?

R Abela

Jan 9th, 18:14

IVA KOLLHA JAQBLU QEDIN!!!HA HA HA HA!!

R Axisa

Jan 9th, 19:48

u infiq ta' eluf kbar f'konsulenzi li ma jwasslu ghal xejn.

R Axisa

Jan 9th, 18:02

anzi, ivvota bil-qalb biex joghlew il-kontijiet!

A Cachia

Jan 9th, 18:04

he also asked him where he got the money from for the reports and consultants....

Giov DeMartino

Jan 10th, 15:21

You were wrong about Mintoff's plans for integration and you are wrong even here. L Gonzi did not say that he will be reducing the tariffs, but that he is committed to reduce them...which is not exactly the same.

B. Farrugia

Jan 9th, 18:07

So true,
I rememmber the sound clip clearly, very clearly.

Doreen Attard

Jan 9th, 18:28

@Andrew Said
Sorry Andrew not a U turn. It's a pure lie, they have not intention of reducing the utility rates.

Andrew Siad

Jan 9th, 19:35

doreen i meant a u turn after he said that muscat would be irresponsible if he chose to reduce utility bills

Ray Buhagiar

Jan 9th, 18:17

Warren read again the article. He said he is committed to reduce the bills and not that he eventually will manage. This is because no one would guarantee that gas will be a sustainable commodity in the near or distant future. Gas may become more expensive than oil...who knows.



Chris Mifsud

Jan 9th, 20:09

No its not late... I and many many others will be voting PN. The MLP are not trustworthy.

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