Scepticism on energy plan timeframes 'understandable' - Muscat
Labour leader Joseph Muscat said this morning that scepticism expressed by some quarters on the timeframes for Labour's energy plan was understandable because the country had become accustomed to mediocrity.
Speaking at a PL business breakfast, Dr Muscat defended the timeframes however - including the commissioning of a new gas-fired power station within two years - saying that in the same way that the present government fast-tracked some permits and changed local plans, there would be political commitment for the timeframes to be observed.
Dr Muscat announced that a new Labour government would have a minister responsible for energy.
During the same activity, Labour candidate Konrad Mizzi, who unveiled the plan yesterday, said an international call for tender would be issued in April, followed by a month-long road show, and procurement would be completed in five months.
Dr Muscat said that the present government's arrangements regarding the Special Purpose Vehicle to pay off some of Enemalta's debts would be respected.
He also said that Labour would shortly be unveiling more energy proposals, including renewable energy. He said families would continue to be encouraged to invest in renewable energy.
Earlier in the activity, Mr Mizzi said that retaining the status quo in the energy sector would have seen Enemalta becoming another dockyard.
Mr Mizzi said the party took a prudent approach to make energy tariffs sustainable and help businesses become competitive.
Under Labour's plan, the unit cost of electricity would come down to 9c6 from the present 18c, which would include a return on capital and a profit margin.
The PL would build a terminal rather than invest in a pipeline which would cost €140 million. This would enable it to buy gas from all over Europe.
Labour would also build a new gas power station in Delimara which would have a better efficiency rate. The tall chimney at Delimara would be removed by 2015.
Mr Mizzi said that the required €376 million investment would be partly financed by the private sector without the need to privatise Enemalta, which would be buying electricity.
The PL government would issue an expression of interest in April and plan a series of road shows. It would hit the ground running because it knew there was a lot of interest in the proposal.
Mr Mizzi said that €77 million would be invested to reduce tariffs and €110 million would be used to bring Enemalta back on its feet. Businesses would also see a reduction of around 25 per cent in their tariffs.
With more than €17 million in energy being used to produce water, water tariffs will be reduced by 5 per cent and the rest of the savings to renew water table.
The plan was to drop tariffs for businesses within one year after the reduction for residential clients in March 2014.
Dr Muscat said this roadmap was credible and doable and the studies had been carried out by foreign consultants.
It had a social element because it would be helping families and a competitive element because businesses would also see their tariffs sliced.
Dr Muscat said that introducing new taxes to finance this would be like robbing Peter to pay Paul so this was out of the question.
This, he said, was a golden opportunity for the private sector in Malta which would open new avenues for private companies.
“We are excluding privatisation of the state energy provider and we will protect the jobs there,” he said adding that the technology Labour was proposing was tried and tested.
Labour, Dr Muscat said, was pleased that the government was thinking on the same lines but the difference was that it had had 25 years to do it.
“We are encouraged with the interest shown in the proposal both locally and internationally.”
Replying to criticism on over investment, Dr Muscat said the party did not believe there was over investment. It was planning ahead.
If things did not change, tariffs would have to increase and even the European Commission has confirmed this.
The business breakfast is still under way with a question and answer session taking place soon.
Replying to a question by hydrologist Marco Cremona, Dr Muscat said a tax on sewerage was 'not on the cards'.
Dr Muscat also said in reply to another question that under Labour, Enemalta's management would be bipartisan. Directors would be chosen on the basis of their merit, whatever their party, he said.
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Leslie Darmanin
Jan 9th, 15:27
Unfortunately Labour's plan will work.
Labour is promising a (so far unknown) foreign company a monopoly of the energy industry, so long as it helps keep it in government by keeping prices fixed for 10 years (2 Labour terms).
Who wouldn't take that offer?
The whole deal is an immoral scam.
There is an issue of national security here.
PN wake up. This is very serious.
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 16:36
@Leslie Darmanin
They are going to take us away hahaaa!, they are coming to take us away hohoo huhuuu......
Carmel Borg
Jan 10th, 10:47
@ Pat
Very rhetoric of you using KMB's and Sant's exact words which were pompously and prominently reported by sweet young Joseph as a journalist when Malta bid to join the EU, hahaaa! hohoo, huhuuu
Mary Ann Borg
Jan 9th, 15:18
'Understandable'? Mela hasibna xi 4 kretini jew? Ilu gej biha s-snien, issa lanqas biss kien kapaci johrog bi proposta cara li tinftihem mill poplu? Dan min jahseb li hu? Il-Lejber ta' Joseph ilhom jimbxu u jghidulna nistennew u nkunu nafu. Issa li stennejna, qed jghidulna li ghandna ragun jekk ma nifmhuhix? Ohra bhal tal-VAT gejja din.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 9th, 15:53
Jekk ma fhitmx xejn int (1) ma jifissirx li hadd iehor ma fhemx u (2) toqodx tikkumenta fejn ma tifhimx.
M. Bezzina
Jan 9th, 16:41
bilfors il PN mhux iwied l ilma jisfen jekk il PN mhu jamel xej biex jghin lil poplu!!
PAUL MINTOFF
Jan 9th, 14:17
Earlier I asked a simple question,seeing that no one answerwd me,I am asking the same question.
CAN ANY BODY TELL ME WHAT THE AVERAGE SAVING EACH HOUSEHOLD WILL BE MAKING IF THIS PROJECT WILL BE DONR
THANKS AGAIN
Rennie Mercieca
Jan 9th, 14:04
Interconnector? Is the public really informed about it? Can Tonio Fenech publish the contract/agreement for the public to judge. Seriously what do we know about it specifically?
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 15:31
@Rennie Mercieca
So much for an intelligent argument...the interconnector is in place and will be in operation this year.
Cornelius Murphy
Jan 9th, 14:01
Joseph Muscat should make a public call for a show of interest in this project. Let's see how many companies and investors will come and line up to take all the risk on their shoulders of providing energy at a fixed low price for 10 years.
G. Borg
Jan 9th, 13:49
"Earlier in the activity, Mr Mizzi said that retaining the status quo in the energy sector would have seen Enemalta becoming another dockyard". X'gara f'daqqa wahda ? Stnbhu ? Iddefendewa tant id-Dockyard ? Saret hazina issa ? Kellu ragub Austin Gatt jaghlaqa ? Hello...........tafu x'qeghdin thawdu ? UNBELIEVABLE !!
L Zammit
Jan 9th, 14:12
Attent Konrad ghax jigrilek bhal Anglu!
Justin Anastasi
Jan 9th, 23:00
Unbelievable int g.borg.......... Jekk ma jsirx xi Haga biex jithallas Id dejn ta enemalta jigri bhad dockyard ghax ihalluwha titkisser umbghad jaghlquwa plus lei jaghmlu xi 100 miljun ohra dejn biex naghtu is somma ghax tfalli l enemalta...........PL delivers
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 13:44
I am amazed at the stone face of the GOnziPN and its parrots. PN has failed big time in the enrgy sector and after 25 years they burdened us with a powerstation (BWSC) which they found on the Yellow Pages which works on HFO and which by EU regulations has to be changed to gas anyway..and up to now doesn't work properly. Other energy plans?....ermmm zero like the Brazil company of Gonzi.
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 13:38
Where are the PN proposals. Up to now scaremongering galore and showing that they are highly panicked.
Barbara Gordon
Jan 9th, 13:38
I cannot hardly understand why this bombastic issue popped out now at this crucial time during an electoral campaign. If Im not mistaken similar situations happened during previous election PL campaign which resulte grea in great mess aftewards. Hope this is not one of the same like otherwise one of both parties is bluffing and playing fool of all of us. As if from 10/03 bills will be reducted.
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 13:36
Given that we are used to mediocrity , skepticism is understandable. Future is for winners: past is for losers!
A Cuschieri
Jan 9th, 16:04
That's why PL is afraid of mentioning the past - because it confirms that the only consistency in the PL is being on the losing side.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 9th, 13:15
Where are GonziPN's and SimonPN's proposals to reduce the electricity tariffs? When? By how much? How? Ghildulna please GonziPN and Co., Irridu nisimghu fid-dettal x'sejrin taghmlu! Mela tigu tohrogu il-manifest elettorali li se jkun gwida ghall-programm elettorali? Intom bis-serjetá? Anqas il-programm elettorali m'ghandkom lest? Fejn hu ippreparat il-PN? Dizaztru totali!
Michael Magri
Jan 9th, 13:13
One Thing Is Very Clear And Absolutely Certain. That the Gonzi/BusuPN and their erks are SO MUCH STUNED and SURPRISED with the PL`s energy proposals that they went into a PANIC FRENZY, INVENTING `Fairy Tales` and Banal arguments of all kinds, shapes and forms to may be.. repeat.. may be.. trying to tint this PL`s Masterpiece.
However this Scare Mongering thing will NOT WORK..
Bravo Joseph.
Anthony Curmi
Jan 9th, 18:48
Yes Mr Magri stunned and surprised by the shallowness of the PL's consultants' 'desk top' calculations!!
Joseph Micallef
Jan 9th, 13:11
What's the big deal if it takes 3-6 months more to be implemented? A national hospital too 16 years to be ready! A 10 metre bridge took years to be restored! Cirkewwa and Mgarr terminals took years and thousands of euros in overruns to be ready!
What we know is that PL is putting all his energy to reduce the tariffs while expired GonziPN voted bil-qalb to increase the rates. These are facts!
Nadia Camilleri
Jan 9th, 13:07
Mr Falzon, today's voters have two parties showing us commoners what they will offer us if we decide to give them our trust to govern. We have two stories; either the PL proposals which in my humble opinion is very credible and doable or else PNs proposal which is the same sing-song equals to practically nothing.
I think only one side is insulting our intelligence; you choose which side it is.
G. Borg
Jan 9th, 13:52
Dear Ms Camilleri, if insulting your intelligence, for you, is keeping a country (MAlta) out of the Financial Disaster (Wordlwide) I think you are settings your standards a bit too high. You are probably expecting miracles from the labour party, BUT, you will be greatly disillusioned, like we have been under Alfred Sant !
paul falzon
Jan 9th, 14:18
Dear Ms. Camilleri,
One can either listen and swallow the hook, line and sinker or else engage in research to form his/her own opinion following any proposal.
I suggest you read the below article.... I am sure it will self-explain why JM is insulting our intelligence with that proposal !
http://etfdailynews.com/2012/12/17/6-reasons-why-natural-gas-prices-will-rise-25-from-current-levels
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 9th, 14:48
Pn proposal is backed by facts. Pl proposal is backed by a history of proposing something and delivering something else.
However you are free not to face the truth and facts as much as you like!
Mario Vella
Jan 9th, 13:07
With all the Enemalta's debt, how can it do away with a loss of revenue of 25% ! Hedging for 10 years would mean that the gas prices in the initial years would be much higher than the market price ! In any case, when the Interconnector is commissioned , it will bring prices down, anyway.......And who talks about uncertainty ???? Hawwadni ha nifhmek.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 9th, 13:46
Tista ssaqsi lil Gonzipn ukoll ghax dawk ukoll interessati fl impjant tal gas qalu. Bhala PN apologist ir risposta ta Gonzi se tikkonvincik u mhux tal PL.
George Cutajar
Jan 9th, 12:38
What did JM expect ? Dd he honestly think thatbwe would swallow his proposal hook, line and sinker? Take away all the glitz, lights and powerpoint presentations we are left with nothing to reach a reasoned conclusion that what he is saying makes any sense.
Labour has embarked on a campaign similar to the one of 1996 - all they want is our vote and then God help us.
Joe Muscat
Jan 9th, 13:42
U Hallina George......Is that all you can come up with?..Labour is prepared and it is now showing with solid proposals...as opposed to the disintegration of a run down GonzPN.....This Government's failure to address very important issues because of its arrogance will lead to an election defeat, which, in my opinion is badly needed to restructure the PN party...
G. Borg
Jan 9th, 13:54
Kemm tistghageb mix-xejn Sur Muscat. Jekk il-presentations ghalik huma kollox, j'Alla l-Mulej jghina jekk jitla l-Labour fil-gvern. Nissugerilek tara ftit ahbarijiet ta' barra ha tkun taf x'inhu ghaddej bhalissa fid-dinja, imbghad iftah halqek. Veru kaz ta' DNA differenti..................
George Cutajar
Jan 9th, 14:14
@ Joe Muscat - These are not solid proposals but a cut and paste exercise of what the PN government is already doing - the interconnector, the plan to change the plant to work on gas with the added proposal to build another power plant. Once again Labour is showing that it cannot be original and cannot come up with feasible proposals but at the end of the day let the people decide.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 14:29
@Joe Muscat,
Solid proposals??? The proposal to be solid it has to be scrutinized by an in dependable consultant firm & details of their findings will be reported for all to read, guarantees by the so-called Investors needs to be pre-paid in local banks prior to the election, investors must be identified, were is all the transparency in all this. Who will be Political accountable in all this ????
A Cuschieri
Jan 9th, 12:34
"saying that in the same way that the present government fast-tracked some permits and changed local plans, there would be political commitment for the timeframes to be observed."
So first you criticised Government for doing this and now you're already stating that you'll do the same?? So was it good or bad to fast-track projects and permits?
Stephen Gambin
Jan 9th, 12:30
Good job Dr Muscat everything look so professional!!!!! Thats the way to do it!!!!
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 9th, 12:26
@Eddy Privitera
Which company in its right senses would incur the risk and the bank interest (cost) of paying out before any revenue comes in and guarantee prices for 10 years? It is clear that Muscat and his friends have absolutely no idea about business. Anyone with experience can tell you: within a couple of years the project will go aflame and we'll have another dinosaur funded by taxpayers
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 13:40
@Mr A. Scicluna:
Business men /women,is what distinguishes men/women from the rest :we take risks. Without risks there is nor future. If you don't want to take risks become an antiquarian!
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 9th, 15:18
Ms Muscat,
If you are a business person you are completely aware that there is acceptable and non-acceptable risk.
You would be the first to balk at subsidising your customers for a year and at guaranteeing prices for 10 years.
What will happen to the viability of the project should the price of gas double? Will they renege on the promise?
Mary Ann Borg
Jan 9th, 12:19
Mela se jgib kumpannija privata, se jrahhas id-dawl u lil haddiema tal-Enemalta qed jghidilhom 'tinkwetawx'. Temmnuh?
L-ahhar darba li l-poplu emmen lil Lejber kien fin 96 b'weghda li jnehhi l-VAT. Issa l-Lejber qed iwieghed li se jrohhos id-dawl . Temmnuh?
Elezzjoni ma tintrebahx fuq issue wahda. Fin 96 kienet il-VAT. Fit 2013 tidher li se jkun il-kont tad-dawl.
Emmen ghas skaptu tieghek!!
Nenu Galea
Jan 9th, 19:35
@Mary Ann Borg
Il PL qed naghmel proposti dettaljati u kredibbli mhux bhall GonziPN li l- ewwel ivvota bil-qalb biex izid il kontijiet. u issa qed jghid li jistaw jorhsu . Fejn hi lkredibilta ta GonziPN Ms Borg?
Marco Cremona
Jan 9th, 12:14
On the other hand, the point I raised on the fact that the reduced water tariff will not provide enough revenue to the Water Services Corporation to make good for the various investments and operation costs related to the sewage infrastructure, recovery of water from the sewage treatment plants, flood relief, investments in reservoirs,etc. was said on behalf of the Malta Water Association
paul falzon
Jan 9th, 12:11
JM should acknowledge that today's voters will not be fooled by this proposal or rather presentation . Floating voters like myself will not be convinced unless someone from the private sector will commit to the Labour Party's proposal to have the gas price fixed for 10 years.
Stop insulting our intelligence please.
carlos ellul
Jan 9th, 12:53
So you prefer the white elephant which keep piling debt and giving us a crappy service for a premium price then this proposal? As a floater voter I was impressed by Joseph Muscat. Its a bit of fresh air compared to the PN propoganda based or rehashed catch phrases (values) and billboards.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 9th, 13:13
You are a floating voter? Wow! What would you write had you been a nationalist? Ma nahsibx li inti nazzjonalist... ma tarax.
paul falzon
Jan 9th, 14:26
Floating voters are called such due to their apolitical approach but with the ability and educational knowledge necessary to either be conversant with a vast number of issues or with the ability to engage in research and form a personal opinion thereafter.
Please allow me to suggest :
http://etfdailynews.com/2012/12/17/6-reasons-why-natural-gas-prices-will-rise-25-from-current-levels/
Andrew Siad
Jan 9th, 16:52
tista ma ddahaqnix aktar int minitix floating voter u dan a jichdu il kummenti li dejjem thalli qabel dan il proposal
paul falzon
Jan 9th, 17:57
@ Mr.Said : Since you fail to understand what floating voters do...here is my history :
1) Voted PL in 1996 and 2008
2) Voted in favor of the EU Referendum & Divorce
3) Voted PN during another 3 General Elections.
Unlike yourself i get to check data which people like yourself regard as facts, making them to live in ignorance and believe whatever their party throws be it Nationalist or Labor
Marco Cremona
Jan 9th, 12:11
I am disappointed that the Times journalist quoted me as saying that the MWA 'praised Labour's proposal' and then went on to say that I (in my personal capacity) asked about the sewage tariff.
For the record, what I said was 'The electricity proposal is "interesting"-which I said in my own personal capacity as the MWA does not have a remit to discuss energy policies.
Marco Cremona Secretary MWA
Edward Mallia
Jan 9th, 14:37
I am even more disappointed that Joseph Muscat missed a brilliant opportunity to return with interest George Pullicino's recent "incredible administrative mistake" (as some would have us believe). Some form of sewage meter would register high flow volumes in those cases where people have connected roof-top drainpipes to the sewers. They will incur high charges until they set the matter to rights.
Rennie Mercieca
Jan 9th, 12:04
Any proposals from PN yet regarding energy? I would criticise one option by comparing it to an other. Up till now it didn't happen? Is it still in the pipeline? Is there any idea after all?
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 9th, 12:21
Do you read the papers? What about solar farms and the incentives to invest in PV for the home? Why do you think that we now have smart meters? Come on!
Paul Meilak
Jan 9th, 12:25
You watch ONE News only... thats why you're asking these questions.... if you also watched TVM and NET news you should have heard already about the interconnector !
scott brown
Jan 9th, 13:08
may i suggest changing your remote since your TV seems stuck on one channel. like most pl apologists you're so brainwashed you can't even see what is so obvious. unlike the xandir malta days and thanks to pn today we can change channel whenever we want to see what others are offerring. so just inform yourself ad critisize as much as you like. thanks to pn we are a democratic country.
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 13:40
@Paul Meilak: What else is the energy policy of the PN ...just the interconnector? Very poor indeed!!!
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 13:42
@Scott brown: the problem is that there is only one PL channel while there are 3 PON channels as TVM/TVM 2 are also hijacked by the clique. Up to now we haven't heard any proposal formt he PN camp. Up to now they are just busy to try to discredit the PL's holistic and progressive proposal. The interconnector alone is not a solution to the energy issues and problems.
PAUL MINTOFF
Jan 9th, 12:02
Can anyone tell me what the average household saving per week is going to be if this project is done
THANKS
George Cutajar
Jan 9th, 12:50
Ask Konrad Mizzi - I am sure he knows it all.
Joe Busuttil
Jan 9th, 13:23
There was a two page supplement with l-Orizzont this morning. There may be other sources of information I may not have seen.
S Portelli
Jan 9th, 11:58
When the ultimate objective is to get votes it is difficult to convince people about the plans and probably the outcome is a mess. When in 1996, Joesph Muscat and Alfred Sant agreed that VAT will get votes the solution was a mess.
What will happen is this. The Labour would not invest in anything of this but just leave the interconnector to work. I am ready to bet on this!
James Grech
Jan 9th, 12:33
@S Portelli
u're aware, I'm sure, that usually ppl that do not have any plans tend to either resort to historical spins and twists or else come up with colourfull predictions based on hogwash. If I were you, which I'm not, I would ask my political party for counter proposals, and then talk.
Mr Alexander Azzopardi
Jan 9th, 11:57
Mhux ovja cause they pn apolagist beleive if PN cant do it than no one can, bhall li kieku il pajjiz maqsum f genji u injuranti!!
Mr Kevin Zammit
Jan 9th, 11:56
"Labour would also build a new gas power station in Delimara which would have a better efficiency rate. The tall chimney at Delimara would be removed by 2015."
That on its own would pay off the investment in the long term as what is left of rural maltese fishing villages like marsaxlok are our best resource ... a resource that has been ruined by the nationalists over the years
Kenneth Williams
Jan 9th, 12:06
Fejn kont int meta in nazzjonalisti ghamlu il power station ta Delimara. Issa dal biki .....qares l gheneb ..
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 13:00
This is not an enviromental issue although it should be taken into account but this is about our future Power generation for the island. How can we trust JM even the gimmick is a farce, he cant even get that right consider he had 5 years to come up with a better gimmick than this ....and guess what he fail miserable
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 11:53
as regards enemalta employees, minister fenech said that he intends to put 70% of the power demand on the interconnector. hence enemalta will only use a small part of the new BWSC plant. all other plants at delimara will not be used. so WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE ENEMALTA EMPLOYEES??
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 9th, 12:04
marius mifsud WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE ENEMALTA EMPLOYEES??
There would be more than anaf work for them what the new PLANT
Richard Caruana
Jan 9th, 12:11
Put that question directly to JM. With PL's proposal most of them will be out of a job since only 40percent of Malta's power will come from Enemalta.
Joe Busuttil
Jan 9th, 13:27
@ Marius and Richard----do you two only follow Net News? In order to comment you have to listen to both sides.
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 11:53
as regards enemalta employees, minister fenech said that he intends to put 70% of the power demand on the interconnector. hence enemalta will only use a small part of the new BWSC plant. all other plants at delimara will not be used. so WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE ENEMALTA EMPLOYEES??
carlos ellul
Jan 9th, 12:56
They will end up just like the Air Malta/Sea Malta/Malta ship building owners
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 9th, 13:38
carlos ellul They will end up just like the Air Malta/Sea Malta/Malta ship building owners
ENDER gonzi pn but
John Borg
Jan 9th, 11:50
Who will be the private investors who will be taking on this investment? Fast-tracking is useless if no body shows interest?
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 13:48
Do you think seriously that the PL is talking in air if they haven't already any interested parties in such a project? Don't let the GonziPN scaremongering machine to affect you. You should be intelligent enough who is being credible or not. The PN's track record in energy is disastrous.
Jesmond Chetcuti
Jan 9th, 11:45
a debate between Konrad Mizzi and Minister Fenech (with the later given ample time to prepare himself) on Xarabank would be a top drawer....whoever wins this debate will probably bag the forthcoming election...
J Tabone
Jan 9th, 12:04
They have already done this debate on Bondi+ yesterday!
Antonella Briffa
Jan 9th, 12:16
Konrad Mizzi had 2 and a half years to prepare himself and did not answer all questions with flying colours. Tonio Fenech only had a day to prepare himself... and as I believe you have noticed, Tonio Fenech was more than convincing, coming across as thoroughly knowing what he was talking about.
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 13:51
Tonio Fenech is synonym to failures. BWSC, Air Malta, €500 in his pocket, Arriva, ARMS, national debt and deficit, etc, etc,etc. So he is no competent body to talk about the PL's energy proposals.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 9th, 11:44
The problem what the PN is that people are more intelligent today
so what lying and lying and trying to make people fear GET you NO WERE !!!!!
http://heathersanimations.com/Silly/spookje.gif
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 11:36
minister fenech said that he intends to change the BWSC plant on gas. A research on the net confirms that this involves a capital investment (the pl is saying 70 million). A sunstaintial part of the present BWSC plant will have to be eleminated and replaced by new gas technology. was it worthwill for minister fenech to invest on this plant and scrap part of brand new equipment after two years?
M Busuttil
Jan 9th, 11:39
and the current plant is not working yet since its a prototype!
Ian Bugeja
Jan 9th, 11:40
Marius ... I think you need to understand how a power station works. It is steam with powers the power station. The fuel is just used to generate the steam.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 9th, 11:53
Marius at time of investment decision the gas option, albeit cleaner, was more expensive as confirmed by the NAO in his audit.
M.Busutill, do you record ONE news and stay watching it repeatedly to protect your vat, that is the one you're living in.
M Busuttil
Jan 9th, 12:03
dear mr micallef I watch everything not only net and PeppiBondiStation.....and at the time of the gas option it was more expensive?? jaqaw fil yellow pages sibta din ukoll??
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 12:09
@mr ian bugeja: oh my god? don't you know that the BWSC and large diesel engines just like you have under your car bonnet but on a larger scale.?
James Grech
Jan 9th, 12:10
The recurring problem with subsequent PN govs is the lack of transparency and lack of planning in almost everything they do/did. U remember Austin Gatt saying that gas was the only way forward, way back in 2003. Then almost 10 years down the line, we're being faced with a prototypical plant which the PN r now saying will be converted to gas, conversion costs have already changed twice at least.
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 12:13
@mr micallef: no sir, the minister said that he had no time to prepare for the gas infrastructure that's why he opted for oil/ may i remind you the the BWSC plant has just been started and if you look at the prices of the gas during the last 3-4 years you can get my point. also try to research on the fuel used in new powerstations in the UK, the low countries, austria and germany.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 9th, 12:24
M Busutill go read the NAO findings
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 13:17
@marius mifsud
the more you speak about the subject the more your prove to us YOU HAVE NO CLUE of what we're talking about if a power station for you is the same like a desiel engine. than I am right when i appeal to all PN voters not to let people like you decide their future and go out voting on the 9th of march, clue less people like you will put my country in a financial mess no 10x I vote PN
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 11:34
PT11. and we did thousands of jobs were saved, we saw record in tourism, huge investment in education and medical services remained free for all, the PN did all this without any political gimmicks but with one determination that our country will not be humiliated at the cost of winning the next general election
G. Ellul
Jan 9th, 13:04
Bonell, qisek il-windmills li ried jaghmel il-partit tieghek.....iduru fis-shab!!
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 11:33
Pt9. Your future will depend on what others decide for you, and the way I see it now is that there are so many people who blindly will cast their vote to MLP regardless of what the future holds under a labour government, but you will have to share the same fate. I rather loss my way why then sit on the fence and let my family and my kids future be decided by someone desperate to be in power.
Gorg Borg
Jan 9th, 12:04
They all want to be in power, my friend, blue or red , green or purple. After 10 years, power gets in their head and arrogance reigns. Should you choose arrogance for your family, you decide.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 13:44
That’s exactly why I will vote PN in this election, all these fake proposals from the MLP camp is enough insults to us. LP had enough time to come up with an honest ROADMAP to propose to us. If it seriously wanted to be credible. But given in to this comedy central I will put my property, my family and my country at risk. We will be humiliatedand bailed out like our neighbor countries
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 9th, 11:32
Part 2
I buy the second car because I reason that in two years time my running costs will drop. In two years time I will have two cars but I will really only need one.
Did I make a good decision?
Maria Mangion
Jan 9th, 11:57
Nispera li ma jkollokx thaddem il karozza low emmisions euro 5 tieghek bil pitrolju ghax ma ssibx fuel fin ghalijha. Il PN hekk gralu GAS Vs heany fuel oil.........
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 11:32
PT8. This proposal by JM sound like a desperate bid in attempt to divert the voters and secure an election victory for JM and the MLP, with no guarantee in hand that this proposal is feasible and doable, those who will refrain from voting for the PN will have others who see this as a political game deciding for them.
Gorg Borg
Jan 9th, 12:06
Yep political desperate bid just Gonzi's reduction in tax (and then raise fuel) and so on and so forth
Antonella Briffa
Jan 9th, 12:27
well said John! Spot On!
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 13:49
No George the PN government fulfilled its electoral promise by reducing the income tax from 35% to 25%, include removing 35 more taxes which 33 of them were introduced by the then MLP government 96-98. And took tough measures which secured 1000 of jobs & saved us from being humiliated like the Cyprus model & asking for a bail out during the recession time. While JM was planning his gimmicks on us
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 11:31
just finished watching a repetion of bondi+. fenech said that he intends to take 70% of power demand from the interconnector. now 70% of 230 megawats (the maximum yearly demand) is about 170 megawats. so normal daily demand from the bwsc pant is about 30MW since average daily peak demands are 190-200MW according to minister. BWSC plant produces around 140MW. so why the investment of BWSC??
G Portelli
Jan 9th, 11:41
You are watching only the average demand. In summer we have to look at the peak demand. Possibbli li daqshekk fjakk?
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 9th, 11:31
Part 1 of 2
I need one car
I buy one which currently costs me 20c/km to run but I am told that in two years time when gas is available it will run on 8c/km.
Someone comes along and tells me that I can buy a car now which will be delivered in two years time which runs at 9c/km with the obligation to use it as my primary vehicle.
A Abela
Jan 9th, 12:43
But the car you bought won't run at 8c if you don't change the engine. I would never buy a car that will need an engine change after two years.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 9th, 14:18
Abela wrong answer on 2 counts.
1.I bought car 1 because I needed it and at that time running it on gas was neither available or feasible. However I made sure that , albeit at a cost, I could run it on gas when that became possible ( I also know that at that time running costs will be cheaper than those of car 2)
2.The answer is out of subject. The question was about my decision to buy car 2.
M. Bezzina
Jan 9th, 11:30
IT-tama ghall pajjizna Jm.....
Alfred Galea
Jan 9th, 11:25
I think that instead of a new power station we must immediately invest in an energy collector so that during the night we store energy at the price of 3 cents from the interconnector.
W. Cassar
Jan 9th, 11:23
Looks like the PN have been caught with their pants down.
Im still waiting for their proposals, basta they point fingers...
Antonella Briffa
Jan 9th, 12:30
hemm budget shih li ghandek ikollok idea xser joffri l PN. Taf xnaf, li l PL ivvota kontra l budget b'kapricc u cahadni min beneficcji fdan il budget! Dak ghaqal min lopposizzjoni! God forbid they are in government!
W. Cassar
Jan 9th, 15:49
A Government should not have to depend on an opposition to pass a budget.
A government is in power because it has a majority, if it does not then it should not be in power, the PN should have called an election long ago. You blame the wrong people.
OMAR SAMMUT
Jan 9th, 11:21
Jiena ma nafx, kulhadd ghandu dritt jistaqsi dwar dawn il-proposti u jidher li il PL huwa preparat iwiegeb.Issa jiena nistaqsi ghaliex meta il-prezz taz zejt nizel 85 dollaru il-barmil u sahansitra inqas il-kontijiet tad-dawl baqaw qatt ma rohsu.Min irid ikun kredibli irid iwiegeb.
G Portelli
Jan 9th, 11:38
Ghax meta rahas il-prezz taz-zejt, iccaqlaq il-prezz tad-dollaru u allura ghalina li nixtru bid-dollaru d-differenza ftit li xejn inhasset. Hafna drabi l-prezz tad-dollaru u l-prezz taz-zejt jimxu hand in hand.
Paul Meilak
Jan 9th, 11:47
Xi darba taha twegiba l-PL ghal liema raguni fin-1996-98 il-prezz tal-kont tad-dawl kien bhal dak ta llum , meta l-prezz taz-zejt kien għadu irhis ?
twanny borg
Jan 9th, 11:20
ghal mument hsieb li tal-pn qalu li l-enemalta ser issir dockyard ohra taht il-pl.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jan 9th, 11:13
So, an investment of €400,000,000.00 would render the average consumer a bill of a reduction of just €5.00 a week; does this make common or even business sense?
Am I the only one living in cloud cuckoo land?
JC.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 9th, 11:26
@ Joseph Cauchi Senior Am I the only one living in cloud cuckoo land?
YOU SAID IT NOT ME !!! HA HA HI
Victor Calleja
Jan 9th, 11:29
yes you are
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 9th, 11:33
@ Joseph Cauchi, . 375m is the total cost of 3 different progects.(1) 166m for a new Gas power station financed by the private sector. (2) 145m Gas terminal & storage again built & run by the private.(3) 64m BWSC HFO conversion to Gas. With PN in Goverment they still need to spend 64m to convert BWSC and build a Gas pipline worth 120m. another 200m on top of enemalta already heavy debts.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 9th, 11:40
Joseph Cauchi Senior: Are you more of an expert than KEMA - the same international company whuch GonziPN has used its consultancy services uo to a few weeks ago ?
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 11:41
@Mr J. Cauchi.
I suppose for you...and me, a 5 euro reduction in the electricity bill is not much. But for those who have a family; those pensioners and are unable to heat their homes? Five euros a week is a lot!
But then again, the social partners take a whole year to agree to a 4 euro weekly increase and when they decide such an increase GonziPN announces that we have won the super five!
C. Bartoli
Jan 9th, 12:10
Sewwa kien jghid Mintoff, Il-labour gvern minghajr ruh socjali. Is-sinjur intieh id-deheb u il-fqir il-loqom li jibqa. MLP sar il-partit tas-sinjuri, min jahli l-iktar igawdi!mela sew jien nahli €360 kull sitt xhur u se nifranka 25% igifieri €15 euro fix -xghar u minn ghandu il-villa fully airconditioned u bl-iswimming pool u jahli €3000 kull 6 xhur ha jifranka wkoll 25%, €750! Prosit!
C. Bartoli
Jan 9th, 12:12
@pat and for those who can afford to waste €3000 they save €750. Kien ikun fair li kieku min ghandu residenza u jahli iz-zejjed ma jifranka xejn (jew anke izidlu) halli inaqqas mil hela mentri min bhali minghix sinjur u joqod attent jifranka iktar. Specjalment meta nafu kemm is-sinjur jevadi taxxa.
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 12:45
Mr C Bartoli.
First of all jealousy would get you nowhere.
Secondly, heavy users will save according to how much they use.
As things stand, GonziPN's decision making skills, have led us to the present energy disaster:a cocktail of heavy and toxic fuel oil and............. a spattering'new' power station.
C. Bartoli
Jan 9th, 13:55
@pat muscat, mela fejn jaqbillek biss jekk tifranka €5 ahjar minn xejn, mela is-sinjur jevadi it-taxxa u min fuq il MLP ha jcapcaplu u ha jajdlu ahli halli jien nifrankalek iktar u lil fqir, ihallas ghas sinjur prosit e!
Steve M. Engerer
Jan 9th, 11:10
So according to the MLP in a year a tender will be issued, adjudicated & the power station built..
Is it credible? It might be if you think of your self a magician...
I recall the VAT - CET gaffe, that doesn't give me much hope..
Concrete proposals is what the electorate wants..
M Busuttil
Jan 9th, 11:20
Drajt wisq fil livelli medjokri ta burokrazija sur Engerer. Jekk int kuntent hekk hafna mill-poplu jixtieq bidla ghall ahjar!
Steve M. Engerer
Jan 9th, 11:41
Sur Busuttil, iz-zmien itina parir...
Eddy Privitera
Jan 9th, 11:44
Steve Engerer: You are wrong. If you follow what PL speakers aresaying - but which Tonio Fenech is doing his besty not to allow them to explain - you would have known that the new power station would be ready in TWO years tuime. But the reduction in tariffs for familes can be started in March 2014 because the private company would be paying Enemalta ONE YEAR IN ADVANCE !
Steve M. Engerer
Jan 9th, 12:34
Oh really Mr Privitera, than my mind is at rest.. lol
C Bonello
Jan 9th, 13:28
@ Eddie privitera.
Which private company is going to do this? Is this company already put it's name in? Or are we building castles in the sky here? Black or red sir? Please put your bets in for your future.
Peter Buttigieg
Jan 9th, 13:37
@ Eddy Privitera: So IF (and only IF) you are right, the private investor would not only take the risk of 10 year's increases in the Gas Price, risk losing millions over millions if the gas price continues to soar, he will have to pay all his investment to the Government in Advance.
And since it seems you know the inner workings of the agreement, what will the investor be paying the govt for .
Nenu Galea
Jan 9th, 19:47
Mr,Engerer which are the concrete proposals you are expecting the bla bla bla Gonzi said today in Germany,GonziPN commited himself already on the electricity bills when he voted bil-qalb to increase the rates.YES the detailed and well explained proposals of the LP are certainly more credible
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 11:08
GonziPN's energy failure has dragged us down: we need a new- PL led- energy boost. We have nothing to lose but GonziPN's dismal energy failures.
joseph green
Jan 9th, 13:05
We have everything to loose if we vote for PL , Pat ghax iddahlna go hajt bhal ma ta parir fuq CIPRU , is sur Joseph.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 11:03
PT8.
which it will result in higher fines from the E.U. if like MLP said there is a vast interest from foreign and local investors in this project then we deserve to know, in details who are they, the Maltese people deserve some transparency on this issue after all it’s a high sensitive issue were thousands of jobs will be at stake if the plan fails
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 11:03
PT7.In my opinion this is a desperate attempt to win the general election, and like Adrian Vassallo said “after will see” after this we have no guarantee that this project will take off anytime soon as this whole project is an enormous task to build the storage facilities, pipelines, and converting the power plant will result in delaying the de-commissioning of the Marsa power station
Michelle Attard
Jan 9th, 10:58
What happens when the first 10 years are over and the price per unit needs to be renegotiated? Will a maximum increase per unit be negotiated at the very beginning, or is it possible for the private investors to implement any increase necessary to make up for any losses in the past 10 years, as well as to ensure that any future price hikes in gas are covered?
M Busuttil
Jan 9th, 11:06
What will happen in the next 10 years with the prices of heavy fuel oil?? If we only think that healthwise it will be more beneficiarry to change to gas. That's already enough to change.
What is the plan for energy by PN? Can anyone ask them please! From Opposition and making the agenda!
Maria Mangion
Jan 9th, 11:15
May be you will get today's bills back in 10 years time. Time to be efficient and deliver, time to move on.
M Busuttil
Jan 9th, 11:22
Time for change we beleive we can be a better country. There are more intelligent people among us. The Klikka time is over.
Michelle Attard
Jan 9th, 11:42
@ M Busuttil
Gradual increases/decreases can be handled by the consumer, but imagine a 20c/unit hike in 2024. That would cripple individuals and businesses alike. Of course gas is cleaner than heavy fuel oil, but good business decisions take all aspects into consideration and such a possibility cannot be ignored.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 9th, 11:46
Which ever party wins the government the prices of HFO and gas will go up & down. negotiating a price for 10 years will garantee of return of investment for the private investor and a stable price for us people and the commercial sector especial the industry.
Michelle Attard
Jan 9th, 12:12
@ Maria Mangion.
It is absolutely not acceptable to get today's bills in 10 years' time. If there is no limit on price increase per unit then all the benefits of this proposal are lost. It would just keep the population quiet for 10 years, and all hell will break loose after that
Michelle Attard
Jan 9th, 12:16
@ Joseph Aquilina
Well, I guess this is the main difference in opinion. I would rather have gradual increases and live within my means, than live comfortably today and pay for it in the future... or even worse leaving a legacy of problems for future generations. I am not one to agree with the "imbaghad naraw" attitude. Failing to plan....
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 13:22
Usually gas is always lower than oil, so the 'opportunity cost's is always factored in.
Simon Scerri
Jan 9th, 10:57
Danger ahead for the country with this proposal or invention of Labour Party. I still call them labour Party although they do not mention it!!!
K Grech
Jan 9th, 11:09
maybe you might rethink about the BWSC extension power station, which in the upcoming years will be below eu standards :D and which you yourself have payed for it, the worse part is that it is highly faulty but those comments are just ignored by yourself :/ it is a pity that you seem to live on another planet.
Albert Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:56
Konrad is saying that enemalta will become another Drydocks. It was this government that had the guts to resolve this difficult problem that was a burden on the country's finances and despite workers being layed off they all got a very reasonable payouts + an early retirement plan with most finding jobs elsewhere. I like many other do not have this same comfort if made redundent.
C Falzon
Jan 9th, 10:55
The LP is well prepared. Prosit and keep up your good work.
Simon Scerri
Jan 9th, 11:13
unlike !
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 9th, 10:55
The LP leader should understand that intelligent voters would prefer a government, like the present Nationalist one, that succeeds in creating new jobs as demanded by the ever-changing demands of the labour market rather than by hanging expensive, devouring albatrosses round the necks of the Maltese taxpayers who incidentally are also the voters.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 9th, 11:02
Francis Saliba M.D YOU should understand that intelligent voters would
CAN WE TRUST GONZI PN AGAIN ?????
NO CREDIBILITY > HE > LIES > A > LOT
Donna Parnis
Jan 9th, 11:08
the albatrosses came from the NP, there are the ones who have put all the bills sky high and give us little in return, you talk about expense, what about the new parliament, why was that built when we had a perfectly adequate one, a bridge to nowhere that serves no purpose, a hospital with huge waiting lists and patients in the corridors. medicine out of stock, no thank you, enough of PN bills
Robert Agius
Jan 9th, 11:08
so, tell us how 5b in debt is not a 'devouring albatrosses round the necks of the Maltese taxpayers who incidentally are also the voters' intelligent one.
W. Cassar
Jan 9th, 11:21
That counts you out then Francis lol
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 9th, 11:23
@Donna Paris
The utility bills have rocketed skyhigh all over the globe through external market pressures and just as much in foreign countries that are not run by an NP government. Therefore your argument is fallacious
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 9th, 11:35
@RobertAgius
Much bigger national debts calculated on a per capita basis also exist universally in most of the bigger and richer economies. Malta under the NP is no exception. The only alternative is to revert to the low standards existing in third world developing countries and imposed on Malta in the Mintoff days. That is the choice facing us today. May God help us choose wisely
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 9th, 11:43
@WCassar
How is that? I write paragraphs of reasoned comments that you try to refute by a "lol" and a six word insipid opinion. That is not very intelligent on your part, is it?
W. Cassar
Jan 9th, 12:06
@ Francis Saliba
My intelligence lies in not debating with you, as I always get the same bickered answers ... so humor it is!
Robert Agius
Jan 9th, 12:11
Yes dottore, but in your case you seem to value a debt as an investment according to your political colour. PN have only themselves to blame for the situation they are in. A wise man would vote for AD. Cause the rest are only interested in their own pockets and inflated egos.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 9th, 13:46
@WCassar today 12:06
Your "intelligence" is such that you write that you do not debate with me at the same time that you debate with me.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 9th, 13:55
@Robert Agius,today,12:11
National debts are an indication of creditworthiness in the eyes of internal and external creditors. All big business and most national economies today run on credit. That is a fact of life and not a foible of the NP or the PL (but not AD). You think otherwise because AD has never been anywhere near being trusted with the responsibility of actually governing
.
W. Cassar
Jan 9th, 15:54
You asked me a question I replied.... Good Day.
Toni Borg
Jan 9th, 10:53
So Joseph is finally admitting that the Dockyard inheritance left by the Labour governmnet was nothing else than a fiscal hole!!
Nevertheless, the PL spent years 'ixewxu lil haddiema' that a PN governemnt would close it down - as in fact it did for the good of one and all!!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 9th, 11:12
Closing down the dockyard wasn't good for "all"from the perspective of the MLP. That idle and unproductive workforce was very useful for the MLP-GWU tandem when it brought down the Gorg Borg Olivier government by a prolonged and senseless industrial action in 1971 and also later during the Mintoff-KMB years when it supplied the "soldiers of steel" needed to ransack the Curia, Lawcourts etc.
Simon Scerri
Jan 9th, 11:13
like !
anthony sultana
Jan 9th, 10:51
The PL is not in government yet, and allready is showing us that he is nothing but a storm.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:50
PT6. Furthermore, I just don’t understand why we should convert to Gas when other countries are doing the same thing. The price of gas is on the increase due to high demand why do we have to follow the flock. The cost for this project alone if it fails would create a huge financial disaster and we the same voters who will vote JM in power would have to face the music & make up for the losses
Donna Parnis
Jan 9th, 11:11
You trash JM for his proposals yet Gonzi was looking into the same thing, whats the difference, Maybe because JM got there first and did his homework and Gonzi as usual just spouts off but does nothing as usual if it isnt to his pockets benefit.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 11:42
No Donna, JM never did his homework on this , Gonzi had the option to go for gas powered turbines but he decided not to because the cost to convert the existing plant and to build the pipe line and the storage faciliteis and the shipping etc, would cost millions, and after that you have no guarante that gas will remain cheap when countries like netherland and the Uk are converting to gas
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 11:45
Pt.2 the price of fuel is highly dependable on the demand thus when you have big industries like the US, Uk, Norway and holland converting to gas they will also bring huge changes in fuel cost. our best option is to wait for these countries to convert to gas and wiat till the heavy fuel oil demand drops therefor the cost of heavy fueal will also drop.
Donna Parnis
Jan 9th, 13:12
John Bonello, but Gonzi opted for heavy fuel and a broken contraption, He spent our money on something that broke down on test,,, parts sent to be repaired and again broke down, This is costing the tax payer millions, is that what we have to look forward to. Every fuel is getting higher and higher with Gonzi, only for the next 3 months fuel will go down, Heavy fuel is not good for the enviroment.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 16:16
Pt4. on the international market, this includes the shipping costs, etc. Not unless then the private Investors will be subsidized through the introduction of a new Tax.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 16:17
Pt5. In terms of reliability, the power generation for our country will solely depend on private investors and shipping companies, what would happen during heavy storms do you still believe that JM will come up with a plan to control the weather, do you believe that during the winter season these ships will be able to deliver Natural gas to us on daily basis…
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 16:17
Pt6. NO, therefore in the future we will all have to fork out the money to build bigger storage facilities. The plan is not feasible and that’s the end of it.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:48
PT6.Like myself there are others who want to see guarantees paid in advance in local banks by private investors, and the MLP be honest about the time frame on this project. Anyone who comes from engineering industry like me knows that these projects take years to complete …commissioning alone would take months to finish.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:47
PT5.
Moreover, we deserve to know what we’re voting for it may be a political game for people like you and the MLP but trust me, after so many times taken for a ride with this type of proposals by the MLP leaders…I think it should be fair to say that this time around the Maltese people deserve to know what they’re voting for.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:47
PT4.What guarantee we have that this proposal is welcomed with arms wide open by the industrialists.
Why is the MLP refraining from going into details with this proposals and have the same proposals scrutinized by independent consultants. After all it’s us the Maltese tax payers who will foot the bill to accommodate JM proposal.
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:46
PT3. enemalta they will stop the supply of gas or shut down the power plant, then the local manufacturing and tourism industry would suffer the consequences with loss of jobs for the common citizen. the project its self cost 320M, this amount of money can be further invested in PV were full subsidies will be given to residential homes.
John Camilleri
Jan 9th, 10:41
Excluding service charge my family of 4 paid Eur 916 for electricity and Eur 246 for water for a whole year. With the discounts proposed I will save Eur 240 per year or Eur 20 per month. Thats not even enough to go out for a pizza. Therefore I will stick with the sound PN policies rather than MLPs gimmicks.
A. Agius
Jan 9th, 10:49
Until a few weeks ago your government was boasting so much because your family, like mine, would get a €200 extra in children's allowance. What were comments then? If you add these with the savings from the electricity bill, you might afford a pizza then. You know what the real gimmicks are Mr Camilleri: the decrease in petrol, diesel and gas prices in these months before the election
N. Aquilina
Jan 9th, 10:49
It's ok John, fil kaz kompli hallas bl-gholi! 240 m'huma xejn ghalik imma ghall min hu p' paga wahda tfisser xirja ikel ghall xahar!
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 10:49
Good luck!!!
W. Cassar
Jan 9th, 10:53
Well for some people 240Euro is a lot... the key word in your comment is STICK... meaning you are a PN voter so the chances of you switching are as remote as finding oil!
And just so you know ....you can go for two pizzas and two drinks at a well known place on Sliema front and silly have change ... and they do fantastic pizza to boot!
ivor scicluna
Jan 9th, 11:15
kemm inti sinjur Sur Camilleri !!!!!!!!! Sewwa jghidu li l-injorant huwa dak li ma jridx jitghallem!!!! Vera tqum flusil-pizza li tiekol int Sur Camilleri.
Donna Parnis
Jan 9th, 11:16
do you buy your pizza at the Hilton or something,? believe me 240 euro more a years in the pockets of the lower earners would be a boost, with PN in another 5 years there will be double on the poverty line if not under it. Try thinking of all the people on this island not just of yourself. With the PN all bills will go higher and higher so he can fill his own bank account,
John Camilleri
Jan 9th, 11:20
I would prefer to keep my job than risk everything for Eur 20. The international price has been going higher and higher and therefore no company in the world will guarantee a price for 10 years. Just think a little before you comment.
M Busuttil
Jan 9th, 11:27
Jekk thobba tant il pizza Sur Camilleri ivvota Labour mela ghax iktar se tkun tista tohrog tiekol issa!
Hallina.....gimmicks taf x inhuma? Li tibat ittra qabel l elezzjoni tghid li l-job tieghi huwa garantit! Tghaddi elezzjoni u tispicca bla xoghol!
Ahjar tmur tfittex issibli programm tal PN meta tohrog tiekol pizza :-)
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:40
PT2. the contract runs out, then the new generation will have to make up for that buy paying higher tax. which means my comsumption will be paid in the future by my own kids. also this will creat a new type of monopoly by the private sector...Once we convert our power plants to gas then we we'll always depends from the investors to supply us with gas. anytime they have an industrial dispute with
Lino Busuttil
Jan 9th, 10:38
I don't like any of the big parties especially the way they fear to mention that our health service is doomed if it remains totally free. People suffocating Mater Dei for any ailment as it is free even to avoid paying a doctor visit. But this energy plan makes sense, it has what it takes to turn around Enemalta and for the first time will creat a comfortable extra capacity for the long term future
John Bonello
Jan 9th, 10:37
I honestly believe that this proposal is just about privitising Enemalta, investors would want to make a capital on their investments, this would lead to reduce the work force & the operation costs. tarrifs will not be that cheap as from this year gas is on the increase due to high demand from other countries. All financial loses which the investors will incure we'll have to make up for it after
Silvan Said
Jan 9th, 10:35
"Labour leader Joseph Muscat said this roadmap was credible and doable and the studies had been carried out by foreign consultants." So the proposals are credibile just because the consultants were "foreign"?
ivor scicluna
Jan 9th, 11:17
Biex ma jigix xi ministru Malti li vvutajt int u jghidilna li kien Malti "CUC" !!!!
Stephen Brincat
Jan 9th, 10:30
Kollu kliem fierah dan Sur JM...froma ohra din bhal tal VAT, u il fabrika ta Deserta...taf x naf x nghid ahjar kif qieghed ghax naf kemm gej il kont milli nafda lil JM
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 10:51
Fil-verita' ma tafx kemm se jigik. Zgur taht JM se jigik orhos :)
ivor scicluna
Jan 9th, 11:19
il fabbrika tad dezerta jew tal-Brazil ????!!!!!!!!!!. Ma nahsibx li taf x inti tghid!!!
B Ellul
Jan 9th, 10:30
The new buzz word is 'mix' now.... hehe and the MLP will be doing a mix (kawlata) if he's in parliament....
To all the MLP supporters... So the water is going to be just 5% cheaper? All this fuss for 5%?
After removing the gas storage from Qajjenza, MLP will be building new gas storage tanks in Marsaxlokk!! Prosit!!! Where is the Marsaxlokk local council now? And were is Mizzi?
vincent Lia
Jan 9th, 10:27
Another carrot dangling on a stick. Malta does not need another PS. Overproduction means making a loss. With the present production and the interconnector there is no need for more and prices can be reduced because of efficiency, but than PN is already doing that. PL has to bride the electorate by promising a load of lies. LNG is more expensive than using pipeline. It is dangerous to store...
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 11:42
both the minister and conrad mizzi agreed that the old powerstation of delimara is extremely inefficient and produces a lot a harmful exhaust gases. so to be efficient it will be replaced by a new efficient and environmental friendly station. enemalta as everyone knows is financially in ruins so it cannot afford to build it herself. so private sector will build it. so where is the overproduction.?
marius mifsud
Jan 9th, 11:45
as regards the interconnector, no country can be so irresponsable to rely it's electricity demands on an interconnector which can be damaged anytime. that's why the eu asks it'ds member states to be capable of being self-sufficient
joseph green
Jan 9th, 10:26
Konferma mil PL li il gvern mexa sew fuq il kwistjoni tad Dockyard , meta il PL kien kontra kif mexa il gvern dak iz zmien. Issa jamettu li kien hemm hofra fit tarzna u qatt ma itakiljawa , kellu jkun il PN li kellu il gazz li jsolvija minghajr glied u protesti fit toroq.
John L Galea
Jan 9th, 10:53
Tinsiex x'kien wieghed GOnzi lil haddiema tad-Dockyard. Il-PN ghamel minn kollox biex id-Dockyard tfalli, bhalma ghamel f'kull kumpanija bhal-Air Malta, Enemalta, Sea Malta, etc.
joseph green
Jan 9th, 13:02
Sewwa qed tghid John L Galea u illum ikonfermah Joseph , bid differenza li ma ghadux jiehu mit taxxi taghna biex issostni id Dockyard , jien meta falliet il kumpanija li kont nahdem fiha f zmien il Labour hadd ma offra skema ta irtirar kmieni.
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 9th, 10:24
What a poor business man: expressions of interest are a far cry from legal commitments and signed contracts.
MC Attard
Jan 9th, 10:22
Fejna il-kampanja posittiva Dr Muscat? Jew diga insejta il weghda li ghamilt jumejn ilu?!
Oliver Grech
Jan 9th, 10:18
"It would hit the ground running because it knew there was a lot of interest in the proposal" - Konrad Mizzi. How does he know? If they kept it secret to the everyone, how do they have this certainty?
"JM said this roadmap was credible and doable and the studies had been carried out by foreign consultants" - Niftakar lil LP jghidu, imbasta uzaw l- foreign consultants. Issa tajbin allura?
Maria Mangion
Jan 9th, 10:39
What is certain is Enemalta is left with over 800,000,000 euro debt after 25 years of PN. Can you please let people ready to work and commit their energy, try something different this time around. Gonzi's results are clear, would have expected PBS to interview Kemi expert and ask if what PL is promising is deliverable. But no perhaps because he in not a Cuc Malti (-:
John Mifsud
Jan 9th, 10:41
Only recently, DNV Kema, the company of energy consultants appointed by the PL, was appointed by the Government to give their views on the Delimara power station.
It seems that the Government is in a tight spot as to how to handle any criticism towards their own consultants. The Govt. was wrong not to go for gas in the first place, & the consumer is paying for this gaffe.
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 9th, 11:21
@ Oliver Grech, did you ever look at Konrad Mizzi CV ? This man is an energy consaltant by profession based in England. He's no lawyer turned politition turned nows it all like most of the ministers responsible for Enemalta we had for these last 25 years.
John Caruana
Jan 9th, 10:18
Nawguraw li kollox imur sewwa fil-pjan tal-Labour. Tkun haga serwwa hafna jekk jorhsu xi ftit il-pizijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma.
Charles Muscat
Jan 9th, 10:17
Why now all these risks about Enemalta I didn't know Enemalta is in trouble.
Mr C Camilleri
Jan 9th, 10:30
Then you were not living in Malta !
Lino Busuttil
Jan 9th, 10:32
Enemalta is far worse off than Dry Docks and Air .malta put together. It's a big hole.
A.Felix Busuttil
Jan 9th, 10:34
you were not in Malta because even Minister Fenech said enemalta is in trouble during budget speach
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 9th, 11:09
It's because you only watch Net News and read in-Nazzjon and il-Mumment.
Charles Muscat
Jan 9th, 12:52
Why compare it with dockyard? Enemalta was not on strike for 9 months and still receive their paycheck.
Lawrence Fenech
Jan 9th, 10:17
Vera, u bil garanzija bil miktuba ghal-xogholhom f'idejhom u wara kollha ghal barra.
N. Aquilina
Jan 9th, 10:45
Mela il labour hsibtu Gonzipn! Staqsi lil tal GO u tal Airmalta, tad-dockyard u lil tas seamalta, staqsi lil kaccaturi u lil tal linja!
Lawrence Fenech
Jan 9th, 11:05
@Aquilina.
Fhimtni hazin, jien qed nirreferi ghas sistema ta' GonziPN li jghid haga u jghamel ohra. Joseph serhilhom mohhom lil ta' Enemalta li xogholhom assigurat.
Wenzu Brown
Jan 9th, 11:28
BIL PAROLI KOLLOX NGHIDU.
N. Aquilina
Jan 9th, 14:18
Skuzani Sur Fenech :)
Oliver Grech
Jan 9th, 10:14
Why is Konrad Mizzi using the past tense when speaking of Enemalta? Jew daqshekk pruzuntuz li jaf fic- cert li ser jerbah u ser ikun ministru?
Toni Borg
Jan 9th, 11:22
Heq mela min trid li jqieghdu! Jekk Konrad hu il-mohh wara dan il-progett. Dak iz-zmien kollu jistudja u jahdem l-Londra mhux bil-fors li xi hadd hekk ikun il-ministru ta dan il-progett. Ghalhekk gie imsejjah biex jigi lura f'pajjizna mill-PL.
Jaf xinhu jghid u jghamel u l-kalkoli. Kliem impoggi sew u l-poplu femuh ukoll ghax tkellem car u semplici.
Wenzu Brown
Jan 9th, 10:09
Another dockyard????
joseph green
Jan 9th, 10:57
Hofra ohra skond Joseph , ga bdejna bil hofor u mhux fil gvern habib tieghi Wenzu
Wenzu Brown
Jan 9th, 11:06
Sur Green, issa jigi Eddy Privitera u jsib xi skuza. Dak kampjun ghalihom.
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