Labour promises 25% power tariffs cut, gas power station - Muscat to assume personal responsibility
Water bills to be reduced by 5%
The Labour Party today unveiled plans which would see consumers saving 25% on their electricity bills from March next year. The plan includes the building of a gas-fired power station by the private sector, with the electricity being sold to Enemalta for onward distribution. Private investors still have to be identified. A call will be made after the elections if a Labour government is in place.
Labour leader Joseph Muscat told a press conference that he would, as prime minister, assume personal responsibility for the implementation of the plan, along with an energy minister He said low consumers could save as much as 35% under the plan. Labour, he said, would reduce generation costs, clean up the environment and reduce tariffs for families and businesses.
This, Dr Muscat said, was the best boost which could be given to the economy to grow and boost jobs.
He expressed confidence that the private sector would come forward to invest in the new power house and the conversion of Delimara II to gas - a total investment of some €370m.
Asked what will happen if the private sector did not invest in this plan, Dr Muscat said he was "confident" that there was "strong interest" by the private sector.
"It is a safe investment for the private sector," he said, denying there was a done deal with any company.
"This is not a proposal belonging to any one company. Any company can come forward to submit its proposal," he said. A Labour Government will issue an expression of interest by April, he added.
Dr Muscat said that a Labour government would honour all debt commitments Enemalta has made. The annual subsidy of around €25 million currently being paid to Enemalta would be retained.
The Labour plan also sees a 5% cut in water bills from next year through improved efficiency and reduced costs at the WSC.
Delimara as it would look under the Labour plan.Deputy leader Louis Grech said the Labour Party's policy went beyond a reduction of utility bills and it was a comprehensive energy policy.
The press conference, which is still in progress, is titled 'Affordable, reliable, clean energy for all.'
The proposal is based on a shift to gas from heavy fuel oil at the power stations and a public private partnership for the building of new generation facilities.
Savings would start from next year.
Consumers would still buy electricity from Enemalta and cost savings would amount to around 25 per cent in 2014. Industry would benefit from similar savings in 2015.
Mr Grech said all workers at Enemalta would be retained. The plan, he said, meant no additional tax burdens for the people. It also meant a cleaner environment.
Labour candidate Konrad Mizzi said nothing in the proposal threatened Enemalta's survival.
The plan sees the replacement of the old Delimara plant with a new gas-powered power station funded by the private sector.
The Labour Party's alternative energy policy will emphasise solar power, a shift from wind.
NEW GAS POWER STATION
Consultant Thomas Leonard discusses the power options for Malta.Consultant Thomas Leonard said a new 200MW gas-fired plant would replace the old Delimara power station (the phase 1) and the new BWSC unit would be converted to work on gas.
His company explored three options to deliver gas: pipeline from Sicily, LNG terminal and regassification terminal and an offshore compressed natural gas receiving point.
The preferred option for gas delivery was through an LNG and regassification terminal - the delivery of gas by ships and storage in tanks at Delimara.
The new generation plant would cost €166 million and the BWSC conversion estimated at €68 million. The gas supply infrastructure was estimated to cost €142 million.
The cost of generation will drop to 9c6 per unit with savings of €187 million for Enemalta.
The old Delimara power station would close down in 2015, and its high chimney would be removed.
Enemalta would enter into a power purchase agreement with the investors of the new power station, fixing the price of energy for 10 years.
The new power plant would be ready in 2015.

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HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jan 24th, 09:58
How can we trust Konrad Mizzi, the brains behind the PL proposal when sometimes he says, he builds two gas tanks on the fore shore near the power station, then he says put them instead of the existing four small thanks and then he says he puts them underground.
Which of the three. Hawadni halli nhawdek. l'aqwa li jorhsu il kontijiet u mbghad naraw wara, l-aktar, l-aktar JM jirrezenja. Tajjeb ukoll.
Joseph Buhagiar
Jan 24th, 20:34
How can we trust Gonzi PN when he promised for example the wistle blower act, the political party finances act, to balance the accounts by 2010 etc, there is no space to list here....and then did not follow his promise through. Do you trust people that promise you and then back out!! + 5000million euros debt!! Sorry I do not trust PN any more.
K CASSAR
Jan 9th, 23:18
Finally a decent plan which has been researched and audited. For those who doubt the feasibility of gas, I suggest they ask the people from the south who's children - like my own - suffer from asthma due to the bad air; or maybe the should count the cancer patients in that area. Nothing will undo their suffering so better make sure it doesn't happening in the first place!!!
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 9th, 12:22
@ Edric Micallef
PL's choice is Gas and it is the MOST EXPENSIVE. It will become much more expensive if, as joseph is saying, we will import gas by SHIPS. And it will become even more expensive if we spend €40,000,000 to strengthen the land for the storage of GAS. The solution is to import gas from mainland Europe which the PARTIT NAZZJONALISTA has already in hand.
pat muscat
Jan 9th, 16:46
@Angelo Vassallo. Gas price is coming down due to fracking. In the US it is already 75% cheaper than in Malta!
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 10th, 21:53
gas is definitely cheaper than heavy fuel oil, also much more healthy. heavy fuel oil can cause cancer and asthma. Also it will take 6 yrs to build the pipeline. PL will build the pipeline but until the pipeline is completed, we will bring gas by ships
Alfred Falzon
Jan 9th, 11:29
I have listened 2 various opinions re proposed new Power Station. There is always a risk that it could finally backfire due to its various complexities. If so, who will pay 4 d millions of euros spent on it? Will there b a warranty 2 avoid a repetition of d scandalous Bwsc power plant?
Fluctuating day-2-day energy prices must b taken into account, more so if d gas is 2 b imported from Russia!
aaf
Brian Gatt
Jan 9th, 11:01
I refrained from commenting before maybe i see some constructive critisism by the PN bloggers (lackeys) but all I read were spiteful messages which resulted because the PN Lackeys got cornered and not having any feasable arguments they come out baring fangs and writing spiteful messages. Guys the more spiteful you get the more proof you give us that PN is in panic mode!
Alfred Falzon
Jan 9th, 14:59
Did u call "lackeys" those who criticised d PN by standing up to b counted?
Now u dare call those who r still doubting Thomases "lackeys" because they expect 2 have more tangible proof as to d feasibility of such a major project costing millions of Euros to d Nation!
Not only "times change", but in d case of PL diehards one has to acknowledge that "hours change"!
Now who r d "lackeys"?
aaf
Steven Brockwell
Jan 9th, 09:53
the only way forward is alternative, renewable energy, plus the inter connector full stop. as a trades man its a fact, cut out the middle man to gain lower prices, however, for another company to sell its electricity to EneMalta is just doing the opposite
Mr Nathan zammit
Jan 9th, 01:27
http://election.josephmuscat.com/pls-energy-vision/?lang=en all the details are given here, look at the presentation...
its a bit of a shot in the dark with the assumption that the private sector will invest and allow this to run at an affordable rate after the 10 year contract..
Steve Zammit
Jan 9th, 00:21
pie in the sky and pigs fly.
Albert Caligari Conti
Jan 9th, 00:16
Labour promises 25% power tariffs cut, gas power station and Muscat to assume personal responsibility.Louis Grech also promised a few days ago that they will come back to us and let us know just in case promises can't be kept.Good job for all of us that we have the rules of the game before hand!Now feel free,think and plan your next move.
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 22:28
the chimney will go from Delimara, HFO will be replaced by oil but practically a new 200MW powerstation will be built in Delimara, for which there is no need since, with the interconnector and the BWSC extension, we will already be meeting our demands...hence, cleaner fuel, but burning loads more..huge waste..why dont the PL and the PN reach a consensus on simply converting the BWSC plant to gas?
C Busuttil
Jan 8th, 22:28
I never imagined in my life that labour would one day come out with such a serious proposal. Seriously I am impressed whatever the PN says. At least they could have the decency and shut their mouths. For 5 years they offered no alternative expect that we could do nothing "ghax ghola z-zejt minn barra". However you have fooled me last election but rest assured you will not this time. NO Vote
Martin Saliba
Jan 8th, 22:20
Comments re: PN manifest 112.
Comments re: PL power proposal 818 .
PN panic !!
Edward Gatt
Jan 8th, 21:39
This morning Joseph Muscat said that saving would be from 25% to 35%. But this evening he said that heavier users would see saving of only 2%. So can he tell us exactly what defines heavy users? We were promised exact workings and we were promised that each household would be able to calculate how much its savings could be.
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 21:26
Sewwa kien jghid Mintoff, Il-labour gvern minghajr ruh socjali. Is-sinjur intieh id-deheb u il-fqir il-loqom li jibqa. MLP sar il-partit tas-sinjuri, min jahli l-iktar igawdi!mela sew jien nahli 360 euro kull sitt xhur u se nifranka 25% igifieri 15 euro fix -xghar u minn ghandu il-villa fully airconditioned u bl-iswimming pool u jahli 3000 euro kull 6 xhur ha jifranka wkoll 25% 750 euro! Prosit
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 8th, 21:09
@ Paul Salnitro
U HALLINA SUR PAWL SALNITRO
L-anqas biss taf fuq xiex qieghed titkellem. Yes you are right - you really do not have any idea how labour is going to achieve this project, not even joseph does, for that matter.
Mela issa ser tghatu kaz tal-Mepa? Mela issa ser tghatu kaz x'tghid l-Ewropa? Mela issa m'ghadkomx kontra l-Ewropa?
U HALLINA SUR PAWL SALNITRO
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 8th, 21:06
@ Eve Axiaq
Kemm inti certa li "il privat se jinvesti"? L-anqas "dear leader" joseph muscat ma hu cert li l-privat ser jinvesti.
F'idejh, joseph muscat m'ghandu assolutamnet xejn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pancrazio Grech
Jan 17th, 23:03
mela urilek il karti ta xghandu hu xmandux melha. jew inti wiehed ipatentjat li tara biss blu
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 8th, 20:56
@ Jason Sultana
It is very clear that you, sur jason sultana, DOES NOT HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF "personal responsibility" and this phrase does not even feature in YOUR dictionary.
Victor Vella
Jan 8th, 20:14
What the LP is proposing is nothing but a leap in the dark . If plan A fails what plan B is envisaged?.Who are going to be the shareholders of such company? What ROI the shareholders are going to have and in how many years such investment is going to be redeemed? What feasible studies have been taken and there is demand for such investments? I doubt such a project!!!!
John Bonello
Jan 8th, 20:13
Pt3.which the tax payers will be making up for the Fines incurred by enemalta & if this project fails this would lead to a financial dissaster to our country as the Turism & manufacturing industry would be badly hit with increase in tariffs eventually they be laying off people.
John Bonello
Jan 8th, 20:09
PT2. for ten years while the shipping and fuel cost are on the increase.the investors will be making a huge financial loss, which will only lead to subsidies for our Tax to relieve the investors. Enemalta would be paying higher fines for keeping Marsa power station running while converting the delimara power station & that would make the situation worse for Enemalta which we the tax payers
Joseph Bugeja
Jan 8th, 20:08
803 comments.
P.N. panicking and fidgeting!
A non starter would not garner any comments!
Steve Zammit
Jan 9th, 00:20
Lol
More like the other way round
John Bonello
Jan 8th, 20:05
PT1.This must be the farces of the century, To start with the whole project would defnitly take more than 6 months to complete, what about the tendering process or this have already been evaluated ???, investors need to do their homework before they invest in this project and who in their right mind would invest in a project were the tarrifs will remian fixed
Mr Don Manning
Jan 8th, 19:28
I have heard this one in the UK as our labour party's theme was "spend, spend, spend" to get votes, the debt problem is for another day. In the UK the other day is now and thats why we have higher taxes and lower benifits, more unemployment. A good government needs a balanced approach not a any thing goes to get a vote.
anthony sultana
Jan 8th, 19:03
This evening PL make it clear with good explanation of how he is going to decrease the power and water tariffs,I support the PL on this one.Prosit Sur Muscat.
joe caruana
Jan 8th, 19:03
Much have been said about the electricity bills, new power station using gas. Nothing has been said how it is going to affect Marsaxlokk Harbour and its residence. Hoping that the major of Marsaxlokk make an environment assessment study and report to the residence of the village and the council members. Moreover what are the other proposals in the PL electoral manifesto?
M Borg
Jan 8th, 19:00
During the first half of 2010 to the first half of 2011, natural gas prices for household consumers rose in all EU Member States: due to the limited size of the gas markets, gas prices are not available for Finland (for household consumers) and Greece; gas prices are not applicable for Cyprus and Malta. On average, the EU-27 price of natural gas for households rose by 6.9 % during the period
George Cutajar
Jan 8th, 18:46
Can Labour please tell us how much their consultants have been paid on this brief? Can Labour tell us who the investors involved are? Can Labour be clear and tell us what will happen if no investors come on board? Can Labour tell us what this proposal will cost the tax payer? Will Enemalta be privatised? Will the new plant be built at Marsaxlokk?
Too many unanswered questions.
Giocchino Attard
Jan 8th, 19:36
You and your friends are very unhappy wow what is it that you guys want?. Booo
Martin Saliba
Jan 8th, 21:01
George , it is none of your buisness how much the consultants have been paid as i am sure , that being a blue eyed boy , you did not contribute to their payment . On the other hand have you ever demanded to know how much your goverment paid to the many consultants it engaged ?With regard to your other questions they have been answered allreay .
John Pace
Jan 8th, 18:42
The power station technology the PL is proposing is probably the aeroderivative gas turbine, whcih is an aircraft engine converted for driving a generator. It is cheap on capital cost but very expensive on total cost as it has to be replaced after a few thousand hours. It was the technology proposed by the Israeli firm which lost the Delimara contract to BWSC, which had better overall costs.
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 19:47
Seems like some re-writing of history here. The BWSC system, with its 18MW units, is a much better way of coping with the daily fluctuations in demand as well as with those arising from a wind turbine contribution. One rather shattering figure in the PL proposal is the cost of switching the BWSC engines to gas. Gordon Cordina and Enemalta said €27 million. PL says its is €65 million.
Pierre Fenech
Jan 8th, 20:42
Well we still have to see this BWSC power plant to fully function as it seems that trouble is never ending. Well what to expect from a prototype plant? The technology proposed seems to be tested this time round. May be because i am not a person who rush to buy things as soon as they are out on the market but let sothers experiment first :)
George Cutajar
Jan 8th, 18:37
as prime minister, assume personal responsibility for the implementation of the plan - Does this mean that if the private investor does not turn up JM will resign and call an election? Does Labour really know from where the financing is coming? Will we be asked to contribute through our taxes to this financing?
Please deliver the beef and not gimmicks.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 18:49
Elezzjoni tissejjah meta ma jkunx hemm maggoranza fil-parlament. Nahseb taf x'qed nghid.
Mid-dehra ma qrajtx l-artiklu, il privat se jinvesti.
Carmel (Nenu) Aquilina
Jan 8th, 18:35
Xejn ġdid mill-Lejburisti, aħbar stramba bħal tal-VAT u tal-CASHREGISTER, jew bħal tar-REPEATER CLASS?
Naħseb aħjar inħadmu daqsxejn iżjed moħna u ma' nħallux lill minn jinpressjonana bil-ħolm stramb u bix-xinxilli, u mhux nħalluħ jidħaq bina, Maltin u Għawdxin!
Kuraġġ u Awguri Maltin u Għawdxin għall 5 snin oħra ta' ġid u barka ma' L. Gonzi u S. Bussutil!
Matthew J Galea
Jan 8th, 18:33
Fine, for arguments sake we say that the proposed plan is up and running by 2015 and we start benefiting from the reductions in 2014 of a fixed price for 10 years. What will happen after the 10 year agreement expires? Would we be worse off? Because last I checked a private company main objective is to maximize its profits as much as possible and the energy sector is a natural monopoly.
M Borg
Jan 8th, 18:43
Just take a look at what private energy companies are doing in the UK and you will get your answer. Rates are going up every year and the UK government can do nothing to stop it from happening .
Charles Cremona
Jan 8th, 18:31
labours plan is all pie in the sky and would end up like the famous VAT debacle in 1997.
Joseph Fenech
Jan 8th, 18:14
Xejn Gdid minn tal-lejber,loghba ohra mahduma bhall-tal-VAT,u l-poplu mazzun jibla kollox.Vera Msieken!!!!
MARISA MUSCAT
Mar 5th, 15:10
Naqbel mieghek Mr. Fenech. Xejn maj jsir issa tara !!!!
John Cassar
Jan 8th, 18:11
The proposal is based on too many optimistic presumptions and realistically I expected much better in terms of renewables, day and night rates and not do away with wind power.
One also has to bear in mind that the price of oil and gas is expected to increase by up to 30% in 2014-2015.
Looks like we were promised the beef but we will end up getting the pork!
Andre Bugeja
Jan 8th, 18:20
Ta linqas mhux b xejn!! pork is always better than nothing ;)
John Cassar
Jan 8th, 18:42
Andre - actually I'd rather not get anything rather than get the pork!! LOL!!!
C Busuttil
Jan 8th, 18:00
Onestament qatt ma kont nistenna li l-PL kien ser johrog bi proposta daqshekk tajba ghal kemm mhux bizejjed ghalija biex xi darba nivvota labour.......... imma l-anqas ser nivvota ghal klikka li wara kull elezzjoni dejjem iziedu il-kontijiet tad-dawl
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 18:10
Insejt li kien hemm klikka ohra li gholliet il-kontijiet tad-dawl meta z-zejt kien $12 il-barmil, u LANQAS ma kien hemm credit crunch. Hemm ftit differenza bejn iz-zewg kazijiet, siehbi, jekk trid tirraguna sew.
B. Farrugia
Jan 8th, 17:45
I suppose now SB will illuminate us how he will lower the Tariffs?!
or will he reveal his plans after the election?
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 18:16
Keeping stuck to Onetv you'll NEVER hear PN's plans. PL's media keep their followers blind to what is happening around them. Just ONE example. Playmobil are investing 15,000,000, creating more jobs, and expanding, although they complained about tariffs. But PL media splash ONLY their complaint about electricity. Even GWU's 'independent' newspaper gave ONLY this view! The 'WORKER'S' paper?
Kieron O'connor
Jan 8th, 17:43
Private Sector = No Unions.
No way will an international utilities company come into the market and suffer the wastage and losses going on in Enemalta under the unions control.
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jan 8th, 18:23
That is why it is imperative for the private sector to be involved! Not just in this instance but in all areas of the economy. If you want to run operations well, you must involve the private sector.
M Borg
Jan 8th, 18:45
@ Anthony Pavia
Private companies want profit before everything else, we will end up paying more not less
Pablo Mallia
Jan 8th, 17:39
Will DNV KEMA Energy being the consultants and project owners be placing a bank guarantee of € 600,000,000 PRIOR to the voting day? If PL and Muscat are credible, they must show and publish a bank guarantee certificate of this amount placed in one of the LOCAL banks. Otherwise it is a smoke screen to catch votes. If the E&W rates are not reduced, this money will be used instead to reduce bills !
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 17:47
Not 'smoke screen' but rather, 'castles in the sky'. PL have been bombarding PN for excessive spending, and even BEFORE being elected, they propose to spend 370,000,000! Does this mean that PL believe REALLY that Malta's finances under PN are secure, and so they can feel free to spend so much? Or are they going to spend so much on ONE project, but health, education, social services ZERO?
vincent Lia
Jan 8th, 17:37
So Anglu was correct water will only go down by 5% gained by making the workforce more efficient, it has nothing to do with the electricity as that is going down by 25%. Anglu is the first victim, many more to follow. What are trade unions saying about a PL privatising electricity generation by building yet another new power station to replace one that is still efficient and within pollution limit
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 17:50
I don't agree that other victims will follow! Only ONE victim will follow: Malta! Like Malta was the victim of the VAT/CET gimmick.
Joseph Borg
Jan 8th, 17:35
L-ewwel kullhadd igorr ghax Joseph kien ghadu ma kixifx idejh u issa ghax qallilna qedin ingorru u nmaqdru. Ara veru il malti qerried.
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 17:55
Iva, veru qerried il-Malti. Il-PL ilu zmien JEQRED kemm PN qed jonfoq, u HU STESS irid jonfoq 370,000,000 FUR PROGETT WIEHED! U ghall-edukazzjoni, sahha, servizzi socjali? Mela Malta GHANDHA flus biex tonfoq daqshekk, issa? Ma qalulniex li PN faqqarna? U jekk jonfoq daqshekk, MINN FEJN SE JDAHHALHOM LURA? U META? Xi gimmick bhal tal-VAT/CET din?
C Muscat
Jan 8th, 22:29
@ Joe M Borg; tajjeb li tkun taf li dawk il-flus ser johroghom il-privat ghall-art u ghan-negozju tal-bejgh tad-dawl. Dik hi id-differenza bejn PL u PN jigifieri il-PN jaghti kollox art u negozji (eg tigne midmed) b'xejn u il-PL jigbor ritorn ghal malta taghna lkoll
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 17:35
Mela sew min jahli 3000 nifrankawlu 750 halli jgawdi is-swimming pool u il villa fully airconditioned u jiena noqod attent u jifrankali 15 u ma trid xejn li biex inpaxu is-sinjur intelfu il min ghandu bzonn il grants l-ohra.
A. Sultana
Jan 8th, 17:34
The promise of a possible 35% decrease in electricity prices is to say the least appealing. Unfortunately even the VAT removal was a great promise.
However, past aside, where is the transparency? And where are the rest of the proposals?
David Magro
Jan 8th, 17:58
A.Sultana was there transparency in the promises of Gonzipn such as the tender of BWSC?
Alex Ellul
Jan 8th, 17:33
I'm still waiting for some PL guru to tell me the price of LNG or CNG that this exercize was based upon. Unless we are told the price of the gaseous fuel this PL show is all pie in the sky.
Is there someone who can divulge this most basic of data? The price of LNG (cost of re-gasification factored in) or CNG delivered at Delimara?
B. Farrugia
Jan 8th, 17:32
Sounds very plausible.
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 17:58
Even VAT promise SOUNDED very plausible. But! Even Switzerland in the Med sounded very plausible. If PL have been telling us that PN have spent ALL our money, where is Joseph going to fork out 370,000,000 from? Probably from our pockets. Or from education, and health, as Profs Scicluna promised.
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 17:25
Sewwa kien jghid Mintoff, MLP gvern minghajr ruh socjali. Is-sinjur intieh id-deheb u il-fqir il-loqom li jibqa.
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 8th, 17:24
Possibli ma kienx hawn cuc Malti flok il-konsulent Olandiz?
Edward Borg
Jan 8th, 17:19
Ghalfejn dal panic kollu? din proposta biss u xejn konkret? jien ghalija nara possibli daqs il proposta tal mina bejn malta u ghawdex LOL
E. Mifsud
Jan 8th, 17:16
Din isbah mill-ohra! tiftakru meta qalu li jafu fejn jinstab iz-zejt? Din issa ili ftit ma nismaghha!
George Cassar
Jan 8th, 17:14
I wish that these PN apologisits give us their objective unbiased views about the following ;
The most polluting power station that does not even work sourced from THE YELLOW PAGES. A PRIME MINISTER WHO IS PROUD TO VOTE FOR AN INCREASE IN TARIFFS.who gave himself a weekly rise of Euro 500 and could not keep 35 MPs united let alone the nation. This not to mention the Arriva fiasco ecc
Edward Borg
Jan 8th, 17:22
Is soltu blabla u minghir sens ta xejn min laburist li jara is super 1 biss
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 18:06
George, probably PN apologists are waiting for YOUR unbiased views! You forgot that the LAST PL gov. voted for higher tariffs, when oil was $12 a barrel! You ALSO forgot the 'Black Alps' pollution in Marsa, courtesy of MR Mintoff. But if Mintoff does it, it's OK! And lastly. You forgot, ALREADY, that YOUR leader couldn't keep HIS OWN DEPUTY united!
George Cassar
Jan 8th, 19:05
@Messrs Borg is that you only want to dwell in the past , while the nation wants to look to the future. Step up to the plate that labour's proposal is a well studied , costed and with definite time frames. What is gonzi simon Tal-Grocer PN. offering more of the same .Instead of the national cake being fairly distributed between all and sundry ,the fruits of our nation go to the Clique,
Chris Borg
Jan 8th, 17:12
This looks interesting and promising. At least we have a plan which considers the environment and the pockets of our families. Something that PN in the last years forgot by increasing the WE tarrifs and launching a Power Station working on HFO - the most polluted fuel available. And people are asking from where will JM get the money - did you ask LGonzi when he build the new parliament or the BWSC
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 17:04
PL have been moaning endlesslu about PN's excessive spending spree! They already plan to spend 'just' 370,000,000 on ONE single project! What about health, education, social services, and others? Profs Scicluna has already 'indicated' that one might 'touch' health and education spending to lower tariffs. I smell something fishy! Malta's debt is no more of a problem, it seems!
Pablo Mallia
Jan 8th, 17:01
Am i correct to say that Malta will be having the cheapest energy cost in the whole world ? Cheaper than Hydroelectric, Solar and wind ? It is funny why the whole world does not follow our PL and solve the whole world energy crises! Maybe that is why Netherlands are using only gas fired power stations and have opted out of all renewable energy.
Manny Debono
Jan 8th, 17:01
My last W& E Annual bill came up to Euro 1000 fora family of 4. In 2014 I may be paying Euro 200 -Euro 250 less over 1 full year. Big deal .
Its jobs and secure & well paid jobs we need. Without jobs one gets subsidised rates for W&E.
"Industry would benefit from similar savings in 2015." Are you sure ? Not convincing. Dear MHRA , FOI , get this signed in writing by JM
George Cassar
Jan 8th, 16:49
Gonzi Pn eat your heart out .In all honesty you must admit that you can not keep pace with Labour . Your scare mongering will not work. Bye Bye !!!!!!
J.C. Borg
Jan 8th, 17:16
Mr Cassar - Did you read between the lines.
I saw tax, tax and more tax.
Steve M. Engerer
Jan 8th, 16:47
Is this all that it is about?
So, in a year I should be saving around € 15.00 a month.
Well I may have an extra pizza & a bottle of wine a month..
BUT only if the new power station is built, the present one transformed to work on gas & if a private investor decides to go for the plan!!
The gaffe of Dr Muscat has been unveiled..
B. Farrugia
Jan 8th, 17:35
Actually you may be saving 50c a day if you are PN
and 190 E in a year if you are PL.
Not only but the more you use the more you save!
Mario Buhagiar
Jan 8th, 18:04
15 euros a month extra in your pocket is better than 1 euro 16 cents raise right?
Alfred Falzon
Jan 8th, 21:09
@ Mario Buhagiar
Don't take anything for granted!
The project is still on paper and things are not as easy as they want to make us believe.
It shouldn't be dismissed nonetheless but we need to delve deeper before reaching a conclusion as to its feasibilty or otherwise!
Sant's VAT promise was a lame duck and once bitten TWICE shy!
Let's mark time and hear what both sides have to say!
aaf
S. Camilleri
Jan 8th, 16:44
So will the Private Sector make such an impact in a few months to pay for this 25% drop?
Are they going to come in with Cold Fusion energy from sea water? Will the private sector be able to generate 'cheap renewable' energy from massive solar farms built where exactly?? It takes a LOT OF LAND to generate the amount of solar or even wind energy to make a 25% impact on bills!!
Could it be just crap?
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 16:42
These groups are feared at election time. So neither Gonzi nor Muscat would dare take them on. Minister Pullicino has ended up with few metered private boreholes, no monitored private bowsers, the removal of well & roof drain obligation & EU censure. Muscat has produced his 5% tariff reduction but no hint of any long term policy like that advocated by The Malta Water Association.
Paul Meilak
Jan 8th, 16:41
Gas shipment ( no pipeline ), higher probability in increasing gas prices, impossible to implement the system in 2014....
....proposal based on lot of ifs and buts and maybes, conditions from which you can never predict or make a promise.
jm busuttil
Jan 8th, 16:31
If elected I would give you more than JM has promised this morning as I have done my workings and I am sure that they will work. Please do not ask me for the workings as you have no way of getting them, all I can promise is that I will take the responsibility. LOL
Darren Attard Bonnici
Jan 8th, 16:49
why? .. did GonziPN go public with the BWSC documents? ... did GonziPN go public with who is financing his 500 Euro a week Raise? .. Did GonziPN go public with the Brazilian company GAFFE? ... Did GonziPN go public with the utter disaster in the Valletta's Entrance?
Yet you did trust him with your vote .. No stand aside ... and shut up.
A. Sultana
Jan 8th, 17:30
Darren - That is why they say "He who is without sin, cast the first stone". PL always accuse PN of lack of transparency yet at the end of the day they are no better.
Last but not least there is no need to be arrogant to a fellow citizen just because he expressed his personal views. None of the parties are searching for power to make me and you rich so I do not comprehend this attitude.
jm busuttil
Jan 8th, 17:34
Darren just the attitude that shows that Labour wont work, you can use any slogan to impress but your last sentence says it all back to the past ala Mintoff style.
I hope that those who do not remember the Labour Regime would make sure that an attitude like yours will not reign on our island.
B. Farrugia
Jan 8th, 17:43
I am sorry to say but BWSC did go public with the documents,
did they not give 4 million commission to a Mr. Borg?
Darren Attard Bonnici
Jan 8th, 17:48
so this is always the PN's tactic .. when you have nothing to say you mention Mintoff?
first of all I'm no die hard PL Supporter ... I'm just a FED UP floating Voter that cross voted in the last election.
Regarding 'MY' Arrogance?
So Laughing and being sarcastic is not arrogant now? .. has Austin Gatt set a new trend? laughing and 'ghamilna pipi' attitude?...
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 16:26
In the matter of price of water, Muscat has stepped on a nest of vipers. Lowering water tariffs will benefit householders as they have no other cheap source. That makes social sense. But it will inevitably benefit other groups: some tourism operators; certain industries; farmers. These are also tapping 'public' sources, deriving private profit and causing irreversible damage. cont.
B. Farrugia
Jan 8th, 17:47
I believe tourists should be encouraged to save water and be metered and pay accordingly.
James Sultana
Jan 8th, 16:25
Quite strange is the fact that all those criticising PL's plans for a gas turbine power station citing all sorts of reasons have not done the same on the article about GonziPN saying that he is already considering a gas power station! Would Gonzi's gas be different and remain cheap? If it is as impossible as the apologists are claiming, why is Gonzi spending ONE MILLION on a FEASABILTY STUDY??
Josephine Muscat
Jan 8th, 16:23
Prosit Dr Muscat... Your promise has been unveiled and looks very promising. Now it is the public who needs to do his part on the 8 of March.
jm busuttil
Jan 8th, 16:50
Iva why not let them do their part this time around like they did when MLP had promised to remove VAT.
Joe M Borg
Jan 8th, 16:59
The trouble isn't what PL is promising, but what he IS NOT. The last time PL was elected, they had promised to remove VAT, which they did, BUT they introduced CET and 33 taxes! So far, Scicluna has indicated that to enable PL to reduce tariffs, health and education will have to pay the price. Promises are easy to make, keeping them is another matter.
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 8th, 16:22
@ Paul Salnitro
I bet that you have no idea of what the answer to the question I have put to the Marsaxlokk sindku can be. Otherwise you would have given me an answer in his place since you were so eager to reply to my comments. I am sure that the sindku cannot give me an answer neither.
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 17:20
I can answer your questions as best I can, I first wanted to address the lack of respect and offensiveness the stereotype people like you and Andrew Borg Cardona use.
For consultations to be had at an official level JM must be PM so unless you have a time machine I have no idea how labour was meant to carry out consultations on a project it still cannot carry out.
The second question comes next
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 17:29
EIA is a pre-condition to any large developments in current Maltese law.
To be carried out however the project must be submitted to MEPA, also just to let you know there are a number of EU directives which include the LCP and IPPC which regulate power plants.
Common sense plats a part, if the HFO power passed current environmental legislation then rest easy as an LNG plant will pass for sure.
salvu calleja
Jan 8th, 16:11
GonziPn energy plan during these past 5 years has reduced my standard of living were I had to put energy bills before my family recreational activities so as I'm not a CUC malti I will proudly vote for change
Ray Buhagiar
Jan 8th, 16:08
166 Million - New generation plant
68 million - conversion of BWSC to gas
142 million - gas infrastructure.
Will these plants be in the south of Malta?
From where is PL in govt going to generate these millions? The EU, Taxes? If LPG is increasing in price shouldn't we expect a similar increase in LNG? Is the 9c6 reduction per unit guaranteed?
Mario Aquilina
Jan 8th, 16:02
Bhal ma hafna jafu ahna t-tlielet l-iktar pajjiz ewropej li ihallas ghal konsum ta l-energija. l-power station tal-BWSC tħallset kważi kollha €160 miljun + 800 miljun dejn li ghanda enemalta. Proposti li se jaghtu nifs l-ekonomija maltija u lil haddiem.
ian tonna
Jan 8th, 15:57
So nothing is certain, since no deal has been done with a private company, JM is just confident a deal can be done...if you want my vote show me facts !
G Tonna
Jan 8th, 15:54
Who in the private investing world will be investing 370m unless he gets a commercial return for it of at least 10%pa and provided the revenue is guaranteed. If an SPV is used as a method of finance, investors will want to look at the feasibility of the investment and there is little peace of mind with many variables. There isn't enough comfort and a government guarantee is not possible.
G Tonna
Jan 8th, 15:49
Who in the private investing world will be investing 370m unless he gets a commercial return for it of at least 10%pa and provided the revenue is guaranteed. If an SPV is used as a method of finance, investors will want to look at the feasibility of the investment and there is little peace of mind with many variables. There isn't enough comfort and a government guarantee is not possible.
marc pace
Jan 8th, 15:45
mela tajba din wen the delimara power station and it's extension was built everyone was against it and now everyone is in favour of another power station being built!qabda ipokriti...muscat said that is was a done deal yet now hes saying tht hes waiting for investors to show interest...make ur mind up muscat!and the fact tht enemaa will buy the electricity won't mean that the bills will go down!!!
A. Sultana
Jan 8th, 15:43
If there is really so much interest in the investment and Muscat is doing this for us citizens, why did he leave us waiting till now? Why didn't he propose this before so the process would be kicked off earlier and everyone would benefit from cheaper prices 2 years earlier?
Or is this simply an electoral campaign promise to get in Government? This idea scares me.
salvu calleja
Jan 8th, 16:17
U Zgurrrrrr sewwa qed tghid ezatt kif qal Franco Debono.ix xoghol jaghmlu haddiehor u il mertu jiehdu l gvern people change my friend...
A. Sultana
Jan 8th, 16:31
Jigifieri kif qed nghid jien, l-affarijeit isiru biex nitilghu fil-gvern u mhux biex igawdi l-poplu. Jien nifhmu l-punt tieghek li kulhadd ghandu jiehu l-mertu ta dak li jaghmel pero dawn in-nies suppost mhux qeghdin biex jiehdu l-mertu imma biex jaghmlulna pajjiz ahjar fejn nghixu le?
salvu calleja
Jan 8th, 17:24
Habieb Dr.Gonzi kellu kull cans biex inaqqas il kontijiet imqar kif kien issugerilu Dr.Muscat tiftakar? imma le habieb ir rieda ma kenitx hemm u fiz zmien li kien qed jiehu 500 euro zieda u wasal ukoll biex ivvota bil qalb kontra li kien issugerut sorry habieb imma ma Dr.gonzi kont naf fejn qieghed ghalhekk ghandi c cans li ninvesti f haddiehor
Wilfred Camilleri
Jan 8th, 15:43
It's amazing how many people swallow such nonsense hook, line, and sinker! This proposal has no basis in fact or reality. It's simply a vote-buying ploy by a party with no real plans. "Pjani cari" indeed!
David Magro
Jan 8th, 16:15
Taghmel x taghamel kollox hazin taraw...what about bwsc? Is it ok for this flop? Lets give PL a chance to work on. These are all fresh ideas. Gonzipn has nothing to offer
B. Theuma
Jan 8th, 15:41
Prosit PL ! Dan il-moviment jidher organizzat u ppreparat sewwa biex jiehu t-tmexxija ta' dan il-pajjiz. Il-fatt li b'dan l-ippjanar il-poplu ser ikollu iktar flus fil-but u arja izjed nadifa diga' bizzejjed.
ian tonna
Jan 8th, 16:14
really? organizzat? seriously? Lets begin:
1) first he says it is a DONE DEAL now..he says he is confident of finding a private investor...so NOTHING is certain
2) if deal goes through the new powerplant will be finished according to JW in 2015 so how will he reduce bill in 2014 unless he is not making loss....
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 8th, 15:34
What does it really mean when we say "Muscat to assume personal responsibility"?????
Does this mean that if all this is a total flop, "dear leader" joseph muscat will refund all those millions of euros from his own wallet? If not can any LEJBURIST enlighten us what personal responsibility means please?????
Jason Sultana
Jan 8th, 17:11
answer to your last question: a phrase that do not feature in GonziPN dictionary!!!!!!!!!!! Im not surprised how many do not know what personal responsability means because the unfortunate thing is that NOBODY in GonziPN is responsible for their countless flops done in these last 5 years!
Christina Sammut
Jan 8th, 15:29
27,000 familja se jgawdu min rohs ta 35%, 2 min kull 3 failja se jibbenefikaw min rohs ta 30%. B'dan il-pjan, il-partit laburista qed juri li ghandu soluzzjoni ghal familji u n-negozji maltin. U fejn huma l-proposti ta GonziPN ??
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 8th, 15:27
Pn commentators- a bunch of negative Maltese gemgem. Be glad that reductions of energy oprices are on the way insteas of nit-picking. Bhal dak li qallu li inthom xi professuri tal-energija.
Edward Borg
Jan 8th, 17:03
Tassew sur Camilleri tal PN Maltese GEMGEM mela ilek ma tidhol fuq din il webpage????U hallina
Peppi Borg
Jan 8th, 15:19
Gonzipn's only mark visa vis energy plan is the 800 million debt!
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 8th, 15:19
Well done PL, From the comments I am reading below you caught the PN simpatisers pands down. They are so confused how this can happen.
Peppi Borg
Jan 8th, 15:19
I expext that Goinzi PN will not only critisize but tell us its plans for energy! What is gonzipn going to do about us having the third highest household and second highest business utility rates in the EU?
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 8th, 15:18
@ Edric Micallef
We had no doubt that you will be agreeing with "dear leader" joseph muscat, after all you are the LEJBURIST sindku of Marsaxlokk.
Has joseph consulted you and your council regarding the new power station in your village?
If he did, and I bet he DID NOT, have you commissioned an ENVIRNMENTAL IMPACT ASSESEMENT, and if yes, can you publish it?
AN ANSWER IS IMPERATIVE sindku!!
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 16:01
Why do you have to use the derogatory term "Lejburist"?
It just shows what a small person you are.
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 8th, 16:42
Now Angelo, Your PN had their chances and BLEW them, Now just sit back and let real people do their work.
and just watch it unfold
Edric Micallef
Jan 8th, 21:20
Dear Mr. Vassallo,
The EIA of the new power station extension included three different options for fuel: HFO, Gasoil, and Gas. The most pollutant being HFO and the cleanest being Gas. So, the EIA for this proposal is already at hand. PN chose HFO whereas PL's choice is Gas.
Peppi Borg
Jan 8th, 15:17
This plan will for sure leave more money in my pockets! It also adress environmental issues. How can one not welcome a plan which leaves 27 000 families with 35% decrease in their utility bills? 2/3 of our families are going to benefit from 30% reduction. PL is ready to govern
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 15:15
Kunu pronti l-ahwa, dalwaqt ser jidhol is shift gdid tal GonziPN haters imqabbdin u orkestrati minn Tal-Pieta sabiex(minghalihom) ihawdu u jgerfxu l-imhuh! Wara kif imwieghed mil-PL u thabbru l-proposti dwar ir-rohs tal-kontijiet, GonziPN u shabu flimkien ma' l-apologisti tas-ssoltu jinsabu mifxulin u fi stat ta' paniku tremend! U dan ghadu bidu! Addio li ghadu kif ghadda l-Milied, awguri etc!!
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 15:12
MLP sar il-partit tas-sinjuri, min jahli l-iktar igawdi!
leon camilleri
Jan 8th, 15:29
ma nafx kif ma tisthix tghid ekk jien ... min jahli ftit mhux ukoll se jgawdi ?! ... kulhadd se jgawdi :)
N Chetcuti
Jan 8th, 15:34
Kieku kellex taqra sew tinduna li l-kontra ta' dak li qed tghid. Id-distakk ta' min juza ftit u jahli hafna kiber.
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 16:27
ghala nisthi mela sew jien nahli 360 euro kull sitt xhur u se nifranka 25% igifieri 15 euro fix -xghar u minn ghandu il-villa fully airconditioned u bl-iswimming pool u jahli 3000 euro kull 6 xhur ha jifranka wkoll 25% 750 euro alura mhux is-sinjur se jgawdi u jien nibqa fejn qijad. l-iktar jekk tghola il-vat jew xi taxxa ohra ghax imbghad nigi ghar, mentri is-sinjuri jaharbu it-taxxa.
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 16:47
Kien ikun fair li kieku min ghandu residenza u jahli iz-zejjed ma jifranka xejn (jew anke izidlu) halli inaqqas mil hela mentri min bhali minghix sinjur u joqod attent jifranka iktar.
Edward Borg
Jan 8th, 17:07
Prosit C bartoli Ilqatt il musmar fuq rasu!
Aaron Cassar
Jan 8th, 15:05
Gas power station 'already being explored by goverment
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 15:23
Fejn kien f'dawn l-ahhar snin?
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 15:23
Fejn kien f'dawn l-ahhar snin?
pat muscat
Jan 8th, 15:02
'Malta taghna lkoll' and the incredible amount of comments on the Times augers well for the future. Together we can make it, divided we will fall. GonziPn was given a chance in 2008 to produce sustainable electricity bills: It failed miserably. We have nothing to loose but our chains tied to the arrogance of GonziPN ministers! They are so superior to us all, that they can never admit to a blunder
Pablo Mallia
Jan 8th, 14:53
If i buy a new car, and i know that the cost of fuel is € 1.38 per litre and may increase in future, can someone promise me that if i change the engine oil and fit new tyres it will be able to give me an extra 30% more Km per litre ?
C Gatter
Jan 8th, 15:08
Pablo I think you might need to take some lessons in mechanics....
To increase efficiency new tires and new oil may help but not by 30%...
That percent reflect on what fuel... i.e. new technology of cars are operating by gas as well, i.e. more efficiency and yes there will be extra km with same expenditure of money.
They are going to change the chimney, they are going to change the type of fuel"
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 8th, 15:09
Its not the ngine oil that is being changed - its the fuel. Do you know for example that an engine gives you more mileage when running on diesel then on petrol? Plus you do not mention the environmetal benefits - which of course was never considered by GonziPN.
C Gatter
Jan 8th, 15:11
Sry Pablo, I mean't " They aren't going to change the chimney, they are going to change the type of fuel"
pat muscat
Jan 8th, 15:31
@Pablo Mallia. Think out of the box and opt for a new technology: engines that work on electricity, hydrogen, gas or a mixture of both!
Pablo Mallia
Jan 8th, 16:38
Thanks for your input.......if that is the case why don't you all change your cars to gas, the technology is available already in some garages, but due to the high cost to install it is not being done. Maybe PL can subsidise also the gas car kit for us to further reduce our fuel costs!
Oliver Grech
Jan 8th, 14:52
Just wanted to ask an unrelated question: How much is the PN charging LP for the rental of their HQ. I guess that was at Dar Centrali in Pieta nahseb....with all that blue.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 15:12
What was your opinion on heavy fuel oil plant?
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 14:38
one has to take everything into consideration and things are not as simple as they look......whilst I welcome the change to gas, the decrease in emissions will be countered to some extent by the intense traffic of vessels transporting the fuel in question to Delimara....one has to quantify such traffic in order to b able to decipher whether there will actually be a decrease in emissions at the end
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 15:34
Who said anything about 'intense traffic'? In fact Min. Pullicino's National Energy Policy concludes that LNG supply + re-gasifier (a simple device to turn the liquid methane back to the gaseous state) is the best option for us. No talk of intense traffic. But it seems GP is now sold on a pipeline. Same for Sicily cable: best have a HVDC says Policy. We have HVAC in fact. Any questions?
Maria Mangion
Jan 8th, 15:45
Qrajt kummenti tieghek dwar l ilma, Nahseb insejt li ghal 25 sena il Gvern innjora bore holes privati li minnhom ittellghu miljuni ta' galluni ta' ilma minghajr hlas ghad detriment tac cittadin li jhallas ghall ilma li juza. U nispera li ma tridx tghidilna li il heavy fuel jasal Malta bil mixi b'dan l inkwiet kollu tieghek kif ser jasal il gas. Bil gas anke jekk il prezz jibqa' l istess kuntenta.
pat muscat
Jan 8th, 15:48
@ Dr Alan Deidun:
So the vessels bringing in 'heavy fuel oil' emit no toxic fumes and do not damage to the environment? Or is it the case that also tankers have a political bias?
Emanuel Curmi
Jan 8th, 16:02
By taking all into consideration one usually ends up doing nothing at all or this may serve as a catalyst to install the much rumored gas pipeline from Europe to Malta. Trucking sludge all over the island is also hazardous and polluting so this is by far the lesser of 2 evils. An environmental issue is now being given priority and you advocate caution which is hardly consistent with previous view
John Pace
Jan 8th, 18:50
A regasifier is not so simple, in fact it is extremely hazardous if the gas demand stops suddeenly, as when a power station trips. The few regasifying plants in the Mediterranean feed the gas pipeline grid which supplies the whole country and whose demand is stable.
Antoine Vella
Jan 8th, 14:37
If the new power plant will be ready in 2015, how can tariffs be reduced from early 2014?
Antoine Vella
Jan 8th, 14:34
What exactly is a "regassification terminal" and who is going to build it? Will it be able to function in all weather conditions?
How many storage tanks and how much land are they talking about and what will their environmental impact be?
Where, exactly?
Will a Labour government consult whichever local community is involved ?
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 8th, 15:12
So many questions, Antoine. Now I do not recall you publicly asking questions when the tender for the new power station was made. Why this sudden interest?
Joseph Aquilina
Jan 8th, 15:14
@ Antoine Vella. From what I read above I understood that a regassification terminal is simply a terminal for ships carrying gas that berth to unload gas. The terminal will be part of the infrastructure needed to be done which will cost around 142 million.
Antoine Vella
Jan 8th, 16:01
Thank you, Joseph Aquilina.
From the little that has been revealed, infrastructure is to be built by government since private investors are only being mentioned with regards to the power station itself.
But Muscat has already said that a Labour government will be working according to the Budget presented last November so there is no provision for a €142 million extra expense during 2013.
George Cutajar
Jan 8th, 14:33
"Enemalta would enter into a power purchase agreement with the investors of the new power station, fixing the price of energy for 10 years." - how can a price of anything be fixed for ten years? Prices rise and fall in all sectors and the energy sector fluctuates no end.
Pablo Mallia
Jan 8th, 14:32
"Muscat to assume personal responsibility"..........no where has Joseph Muscat write or say that if these dates and targets are reached, he would resign and call an election. Tixtrux hut fil-bahar kif sar f'tal-VAT.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 8th, 15:13
Yes, just like Austin Gatt did with the total mess that is Arriva.
B. Cassar
Jan 8th, 15:33
GONZI PN done all kinds of Mistakes, including BWSC always encountering problems, Ariva total disaster, 500 euro in their pockets, lack of transparency when it comes to justice etc. .
did Dr. Lawrence Gonzi assumed responsibility and resigned?
no he awaited for Dr. Franco Debono to bring him down
Carmel Camilleri
Jan 8th, 14:20
All this plan depends on private investments who surely are after making money. Who are these investors to risks such amount of money? What return is guaranteed for their risks? This is all dreams like the removal of vat which resulted in an enormous financial disaster.
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 14:51
Read 10 year power purchasing agreement, it's so simple it hurts my brains seeing people struggling to understand.
anthony sultana
Jan 8th, 14:14
This decrease in the power tariffs is good news for now, but in the long term is going to cause problems,Who is going to invest in natural power,who is going to try to save on water,this is going to add more problems with those once that we allready have.Wait and see.Aircondition everybody on,electric heathers all on.The vouchers make more sense my friends.
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 14:08
@ Alan Deidun Why say that off-shore wind is cheaper than solar, rather than on-shore wind is cheaper than solar and nearly as cheap as conventional generation? Do you subscribe to the Joseph Muscat view that a windfarm on Bahrija will ruin the water supply? Or to the GP view that Hal- Far has the same [bird] problem as Sikka l-Bajda and is, [where it was 3 yrs ago!] on the airport flypath?
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 15:10
Edward, by indulging in attacks on fellow environmentalists in public, you reap further disrepute on the green movement......just think about this for a minute.....incidentally, I have collaborated with Marco on more than occasion on env matters......as a member of the Committee on Wind Energy, instituted incidentally by your bogey man, you were not against offshore wind
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 16:02
I find the notion that environmentalists have immunity from public criticism rather sinister, positively masonic in fact.
I said nothing against offshore wind. All I said was that on-shore is cheaper. So it would have offered a better argument against demotion of wind. A limited farm on Bahrija would have more MW than all our PRESENT PV, and it could have been up and running a year or two ago.
Antoine Vella
Jan 8th, 17:06
Edward Mallia, when you say that on-shore wind energy is cheaper, are you factoring in the loss of land that could otherwise be used for agricultural or other purposes?
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 18:40
The land at Wied Rini is mainly garrigue; most of very limited ag activity involves illegal capture of garrigue by dumping construction waste and some soil. There is an illegal go-kart track; can you factor all that illegality in? Then there are at least 20 derelict 45m lattice masts on 4m x 4m bases which could take most of the base of 850kW turbines. Can you factor those out?
Antoine Vella
Jan 8th, 19:35
I'm not discounting on-shore wind energy generation. What I'm saying is that there are issues which can only be addressed if all political parties are in agreement.
Last year, a farmer who lives just outside Baħrija "assured" me that wind turbines cause cancer. That's what she was told: the electric current produced by the turbines somehow affects the brain, "like mobile phone antennae".
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 22:32
And before that a noted politician said that a wind farm at Wied Rini would ruin the water supply. And if the current from wind turbines causes cancer what about the current in overhead electric cables? Did your Bahrija farmer do anything about the mobile phone antenna at Wied Rini? Does he use a mobile phone for that matter? May we be spared any more silly sallies?
Kieron O'connor
Jan 8th, 14:08
The sooner both parties realise the job of a government is not to micro manage utilities & power plants the sooner the citizens will benefit from living in a prosperous nation.
Governments job is to legislate and create an environment where companies can inovate and offer services to consumers that saves the consumer money and offer sustainable jobs in a regulated market place.
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Jan 8th, 14:07
With out any doubts the Labour plan for a new gas power station is in all aspects far and far better than that of the PN's BWSC power station with the worst oil that there is in the market.
Clayton Spiteri
Jan 8th, 14:06
Don not HATE ....... CONGRATULATE!!!!!!!
scott brown
Jan 8th, 14:05
when the socialists want to inflate numbers they always use the %. When the price of fuel rises they use % but when it goes down they always quote real numbers.
can dear joseph tell us in real figures how much those 30000 familities with subsidised rate will save?
George Cassar
Jan 8th, 14:02
All GonziPN gave us was, increase after the other in the utility rates, a half baked polluting power station ,electricity cuts galore and more of the same proverbial saying " rub my back and I will rub yours.
Labour's proposal will ensure the generation of clean energy and a hefty reduction in rates. The proposal is costed with definite proposals. This is the first ever costed prop, by a party
Alex Ellul
Jan 8th, 14:01
What is the price of LNG or LPG delivered at Delimara? This is the basis of all calculations but it is nowhere to be found in the PL's presentation.
We need to know the price of gas upon which this presentation must be based.
Until this basic data is provided all is pie in the sky.
P Borg
Jan 8th, 13:59
"The cost of generation will drop to 9c6 per unit". This is what it all hinges on. PROVIDE THE CALCULATION, PLEASE! Including ALL the assumptions!
Alan Abela
Jan 8th, 13:58
Konrad Mizzi kien konsulent ta Alfred Sant fuq l-energija fin 97. L-istess zmien meta iz zejt kien hafna irhas u l kontijiet gholew. Naqa konsistenza PLEASE!
Mr Edwin Vella
Jan 8th, 15:28
Ma nahsibx li taf x'int tghid siehbi. 2013-1997=16. 24-16=8. Ma nahsibx li Alfred Sant kellu konsulenti ta' 8 snin.
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 13:57
Considering all the factors and considering all the fireworks of plans and powerpoints, the fact remains that joseph muscat is an immature politician who thinks that we are going to buy his story. As it seems suddenly all the disgruntled nationalists who seem to mushroom from mile end to make us believe they ever wore the shade of blue, they are wasting their time because they are pathetic lejber
Roberto Fenech
Jan 8th, 13:55
Like this we still have to stay at teh mercy of teh Government to provide us with energy. Typical Labour politics.
Better invest in solar panels and be self sufficient.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 8th, 15:17
Fenech, JM said that there will be private energy providers - as opposed to today's situation where we have only Enemalta. It looks like the PN has been practising 'typical labour politics' for the past 25 years.
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 13:54
@ Alan Deidun Why expect PL to do what Min. Pullicino has so signally failed to do, without any comment from you? That makes "it" a partisan comment, trying to shelter under Marco Cremona's skirts.
What about the recent GP "de-criminalisation" of roof connection to sewers and evasion of well requirement? Just the (non-partisan?) silence of the lambs in these cases.
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 15:06
Edward Mallia.....you can accuse me of anything except of being a GP lackey.....do the terms 'scheme rationalisation', Resources Ministry treatment of trees and of Buskett and of the general inaction on groundwater preservation ring a bell somewhere? Or do I need to quote chapter and verse where I stated these in my columns so as to avert your trademark, unjustified vitriol in my regards?
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 16:10
I mentioned specific cases Alan and did not actually use the word 'lackey'.
pat muscat
Jan 8th, 13:52
This is Pl's solution to an energy problem cooked at Castille. He who cooked the mess can never be expected to find a solution for a mess of his own making. GonziPN initially proposed gas, then changed to heavy fuel oil, and we the consumers have to carry the burden of exorbitant electricity bills because he who did the blunder is a heavy weight in GonziPN and is too arrogant to admit the mistake
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 8th, 13:52
Having a Gas pipeline also gives us another way (redundancy and possibly better competition) through which to import our gas requirements instead of ships doing go and forth. Such as the case today with gas for liquigas and HFO for Delimara phase 2.
Pablo Mallia
Jan 8th, 15:02
Adrian, there is a huge difference between the gas volume and flow rate required for domestic gas than running a power station. Also the gas is a different density. Thallatx il gas mal............
John Gauci
Jan 8th, 13:51
My simple questions around this energy proposal are:
1) What would happen if gas prices increase and reach record levels?
2) Why are water and electricity metres not mentioned in the study? Are you planning to increase those?
3) How can you determine the price of gas (9c per unit) from now?
4) This is a major capital project...so how can it be ready in just one year?
S Portelli
Jan 8th, 13:50
Well done Joseph! So In 1 year the country's debt will go up by EUR400M. So soon we will join other requesting a bailout! Best in Europe
A. Schembri
Jan 8th, 15:57
The private sector will pay for the new plant NOT the government...damn just read the article first -.-
Mario Spiteri
Jan 8th, 13:48
So now we really understand Louis Grech's body language & reason for 3X asserting on Dissett,facing Bugeja & Busuttil & without really having to say so in his first major TV encounter,that" the PL in Power will be frank/honest with the Maltese telling them that this cannot be implemented,this will not work out & in this we are sorry to have failed."He subconsciously had DNV-KEMA:PPP well in mind!
A Tonna
Jan 8th, 13:44
All Partit Negattiv moaners below, feel free to continue paying the current prices and thank you in advance to distribute the savings to us who agree with this proposal.
Edward Borg
Jan 8th, 17:09
Min hu il partit negattiv???? int illum twelidt jew?
John Gauci
Jan 8th, 13:44
For the past months I have been eagerly waiting to listen and evaluate the PL's proposals vis-a-vis water and electricity bills. Today I was quite surprised when I heard the content of the proposal and will say why. First of all throughout these 5 years labour has made everyone believe that electricity bills would the lowered soon after they are in power and not 1 or 2 years later!
E Gatt
Jan 8th, 13:39
Let’s believe in magic for a moment, that taxes and fuel prices will not rise, and give Labour’s proposal the benefit of the doubt.
Calculate 25% of your electricity bills, then ask yourself if it is worth risking the economic stability Malta enjoys with PN at the helm, for these unproven savings.
B. Cassar
Jan 8th, 15:45
speaking of economic stability at the moment is not a very wise decision.
apart from that even if Malta was enjoying economic stability, you cannot say that during the past 9 months was enjoying government and state stability! so I think I will risk because if according to your knowledge you are doing well in your business others are suffering and its better off with PL decisions at the moment
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 15:47
exactly, in my case it works out to a 15 euro reduction a month. MLP sar il-partit tas-sinjuri ghax min jaffordja jahli ha jgawdi. 25% of my bill of 360 euro will give me 15 euro reduction a month whereas the person that waste and get a 2000 euro bill will save 500 euro. No it is not worth risking especially if it will be another VAT fiasco like in 1996. Imbad ikun too late ghax inbatu kollha!
fredu debono
Jan 8th, 13:37
L-akbar cucata li smajt dawn l-ahhar 30 sena. u jekk ma ghandix nivvota labour meta nisma dawn il-hmerijiet. jien ridtu jghjidli li minn marzu se jrahhasli l-kontijiet , u mhux ghad trid tinbena l-power station. ahjar nibqa kif jien, ax kif jien naf.
Daniel Borg
Jan 8th, 15:36
Imma.dak xi.hsibt int, anke jien hsibt li wara lelezjoni ta 2008 se torhosli t taxa al 25% u fit 2010 jispica d defecit u jibda jkolna surplus, u l waiting list tispica darba al dejem u l white rocks ikun lest bhal ma weduna.. ima bhal ma ghidt int ux...
Tony Mangion
Jan 8th, 13:36
Read comments re 12/11/12 announcement
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121112/local/new-gas-plant-inaugurated.445122
Power station conversion to gas when EU funds are available - Gonzi and then read the comments below
Joseph Bonello
Jan 8th, 13:35
Answers to these questions,please:
01 Is it technically possible to build a new power station and have it fully operational in less than a year?
02 How did the PL arrive at a figure of 25% discount and how long (assuming the discount will come into effect as from April 2014) will this discount last?
03 From where will the financing of the gas pipeline be forthcoming?
Edric Micallef
Jan 8th, 13:34
Well done to Joseph Muscat who managed to come up with a proposal not only to lower the electricity tariffs, but also keep within the same footprint of Delimara Power Station and be more environmental friendly. The eyesore from the tall stack would also be removed since this was required due to use of HFO which, with this proposal would not be used anymore.
Perit Edric Micallef
Mayor Marsaxlokk
m. borg (slm)
Jan 8th, 13:31
If I recall correctly gonzipn's 2008 electoral slogan was "Flimkien Kollox Possibli"
How come these same people are now doubting that this can also apply to reducing electricity and water bills or do they consider gonzi as a god who only he can make things possible.
It only shows that gonzi failed and gonzipn apologists do not believe in themselves of being ale to contribute to a better Malta .
Pablo Mallia
Jan 8th, 14:51
If i buy a new car, and i know that the cost of fuel is € 1.38 per litre and may increase in future, can someone promise me that if i change the engine oil and fit new tyres it will be able to give me an extra 30% Km per litre ?
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jan 8th, 14:52
I don't think at all that Gonzi is a 'god' (on the contrary there were way to many shortcomings from the gov) ... However I do think JM is pretty amateurish!
I hope I am wrong but I am suspecting that the PL didn't speak up before simply so nobody has time to shoot down their pie in the sky....
This proposal raises more questions than answers.. at least for now...
Kenneth Mizzi
Jan 8th, 13:30
Any idea what will be the Super 5 numbers tomorrow pls
Joe Tabone
Jan 8th, 13:27
Can PL enlighten us what the price of gas will be for the next few years??
pat muscat
Jan 8th, 14:54
@ Mr Joe Tabone.
Price of gas is going down because of a new extraction technology called Fracking. Because of this technology, which has increased supply by tenfold, price of gas in the USA has already gone down and is now 75% cheaper than in Malta.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 13:23
PN apologists qed jghidu ghax il gas jista jghola bi 25%. Jintqalu hafna affarjiet mill-ispekulaturi tas-swieq, u ovvjament ghax dejjem ikun hemm interess mohbi. Ukoll kienu qalu perezempju d-deheb se jghola sew sa l-ahhar tas sena u minn dan kollu ma gara xejn. U jekk jghola l-gas ma jistax jghola l heavy fuel ukoll?
Mizzi mar sew bl 4 miljuni commission li ha hu u shabu.
M Grima
Jan 8th, 13:22
There you have it folks, its clear, its black on white and it's doable. What the PL promises it delivers, not only for half the electorate but for all Maltese citizens.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jan 8th, 14:54
one simple question if I may... What guarantee do we have regarding 'What the PL promises it delivers' ??
Richard Caruana
Jan 8th, 13:20
Another Arriva in the making.
Looks great on paper, but will be an ecological and financial disaster.
M Grima
Jan 8th, 13:19
It is so easy for the PN's apologists to criticize the PL's energy proposals when their beloved party has been sitting (or rather squandering) pretty and doing nothing about the high energy costs. No amount of debt, and regrettably we have almost €6 billion of it and also showing nothing for it, will attract the electorate to trust the PN. The PN has treated the people as morons. No more.
J Caruana
Jan 8th, 13:15
How would you fund the gas plant in Delimara? What if Gas prices soare in the future? (because other countries are working on similar plan - thus demand will go up). How would you improve efficiency at WSC? I can see that savings are in stages. That would hardly save you anything - gimmick of SAVE UP TO ......
M Grima
Jan 8th, 13:10
We have Enemalta with a debt of around €800 million accompanied by astronomical W & E bills and on the other the PL has a plan to gradually wipe out this debt and at the same bring bring down utility bills by 25%. GonziPN has not worked and no wonder Joseph's energy proposal has awakened the PN from their comatose.
Ken Mercieca
Jan 8th, 13:09
simple question to Konrad Mizzi - when he was part of Enemalta management why he did not press on with implementing what he is proposing now that he is a star candidate? was it his responsibility to do so if he was being paid to do so? why only now has he come out with such reforms??
Joseph Frank
Jan 8th, 13:09
The PN apologists are so let down by their party in Government that they think that all parties cannot deliver and will fail like yesterday’s Government. I cannot blame them, considering how GonziPN failed miserably and let us down when it comes to energy and tariffs. At least we will have a proper and clean power house after a call for tenders – not through a quick search in the Yellow Pages!
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 13:06
Have those people who have made a bogey of the PL consultantnoy realised that these are the same people Enemalta pulled out of a hat to certify the Delimara Extension?
Peter Vella
Jan 8th, 13:06
' which would see consumers saving 25% on their electricity bills from March next year'. 25% from bill or from Electricity consumption ONLY? Can anyone explain.
M Grima
Jan 8th, 13:06
While GonziPN is preaching that the PL is only a gimmick machine, Joseph is delivering the beef to all the Maltese, whether Nationalists or Labour. While GonziPN has riddled us with almost €6 billion of debt, Joseph is offering concreate and doable solutions. This is what distinguishes the boy in Dr. Gonzi to the mature politican, Dr. Muscat. This is how politics are done - the PL way.
Paul Portelli
Jan 8th, 13:04
those 25 5 will be reduced more if a labour goverment will look into enemalta 's operations.we have managers doing jobs that distribution technical officers used to do,we have bonuses that are taken by the hod's ,we have a grat ammount of theft of electricity,we have running costs that can be reduced and we have to look into the BWSC contract again.prosit mr konrad,prosit joseph
George Cassar
Jan 8th, 13:02
Seeing both Dr. Gonzi and Busuttil looking the way they are looking seems to me that they are looking at EneMalta's 800 million debt and smiling at it!
A.Felix Busuttil
Jan 8th, 13:01
This morning GONZI said that a power station working with gass is a project his goverment was working on. So PL project is feasable and workable because Gonzi was already working on.
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 14:40
No it means Joseph copied the idea
Peter Vella
Jan 8th, 13:00
At first glance one can calculate that the distribution costs and waste plus depriciation costs plus 10% interest on capital outlay (as the private sector will invest only if there is a return on the investment) will sum up to more than the difference between the present cost per unit of electricity and the proposed new generation costs of 9c6 per unit. Who will be saving anything?
Mark Borg
Jan 8th, 13:45
What a load of hogwash. Who do you think your are impressing with your 10% and 9c6 per unit? Pity all these years who have been stowed away somewhere.
John Borg
Jan 8th, 13:50
Now do the same calculation without investing anything and tell me how much you'll be saving!
Francesca Abela
Jan 8th, 13:00
What about more incentives for consumers to invest in Solar Panels? Many consumers would like to invest in the PV's but are put off by the mitial cost, how about a scheme whereby consumers would be offered a loan to buy the Pv''s and then payback is from the electricity generated surplus from the bills?
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 13:21
now thats a good idea well done
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 13:30
it is already available
C BONDIN
Jan 8th, 14:06
Very good idea Ms. Abela
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 14:49
PV installations are a short sighted gimmick.
From a utility standpoint any residential PV installation is ignored in the generation plans, even if the amount of consumer PV power input was controlled and measured (currently enemalta doesn't even monitor and control 11KV substations forget PV installations), the utility is still bound to operate a 'spinning reserve'.
investing in machines is btr
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 15:19
@ Francesca
Hafna koppji zghazagh bi tfal zghar m'ghandhomx bejt ghax flat jaffordjaw jixtru. Fejn se jghamluhom?
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 15:50
How about consumers being GIVEN the pv panels for free but then just pay a small monthly rent (which does not vary) for them? Any maintenance would be done by Enemalta. All the electricity generated would go to enemalta but the consumer only pays a small rent.
Christopher Sammut
Jan 8th, 12:58
Thank God we have a Maltese person named Joseph that is willing to do something regarding the problems that the PN had brought us in, shame to some posts here under, aren't we all Maltese, we are in need of a person that is willing to save us from the olegarkija of Gonzi PN, all genuine Maltese are aware of a needed urgent change cause this govt is no longer capable of doing good for this country
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 13:20
I don't agree with your cowardly baloney - does that make me less Maltese then you?
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 13:22
you must be living in super one land
John Gauci
Jan 8th, 13:57
Mr. Sammut tista tispjegali kif din l-powerstation ser tkun lesti f'sena wahda biss? Tista tispjegali kif il-prezz tal-gas per unit huwa diga stabilit u ben fatt? Tista tispjegali x'jigri jekk il-prezz tal-gas joghla kif qieghed joghla? Tista tghidilna ghaliex il-kirja tal-meters mhux imsemmija fl-istudju? X'jigri jekk ma jigux flus mill-Ewropa?
Christopher Sammut
Jan 8th, 17:33
Good evening Mr Micallef, Mr Spiteri & Mr Gauci, first of all of course we are all Maltese & surly you must agree that we need a change in many sectors of Malta, We needed a change in 1987 & we need a change now urgently as well,only people that form part of the Klika dont think so, if you are part of it you must for sure be against a change, plenty of genuine PN supporters think like me full stop
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 20:47
" genuine PN supporters think like me full stop" & "only people that form part of the Klika don’t think so"
Sammut your generalisations are simply disgusting and offensive. Since I don't agree with your proposed want of change and therefore I must form part of the "klika" I invite (challenge) you to tell everyone how I am such.
This is your chance to prove your worth.
S Scerri
Jan 8th, 12:58
I have been in this industry for nearly twenty five years. It is the way forward. If PN have listened to what experts have been telling ,them we would have had cleaner energy instead of the most pollutant power station in the Med. Is it commisions ?
John Pace
Jan 8th, 18:58
I think you are talking about Marsa power station.
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 12:56
The Labour Party's alternative energy policy will emphasise solar power, a shift from wind.
Why the "shift from wind"? Serious demotion means trouble with our effort to reach 10% of TOTAL energy use from RE sources by 2020. The statement needs to be quantified, if nothing else to assure us that it is not an echo of Dr. Muscat's dismissal of Bahrija as a wind farm will ruin the water supply.
Frans Aguis
Jan 8th, 13:25
Edward PN said they will invest in wind energy 5 yrs ago.Not a thing has been done after a feasibility study excluding Marfa as a location.PL say they will emphasize solar power seems a step in the right direction.
Did you ask PN to quantify their statements in 2008?If they did they sure as hell lied.
Frank Zammit
Jan 8th, 14:09
Generating electricity from wind is expensive, inefficient, cumbersome, an eye-sore and very noises. Believe me, you would not want to live near a wind farm.
carmel cassar
Jan 8th, 12:53
all I know is that Gonzi plan has fail ans enemalta was brought to its knees with almost 1bl in debt. So now we try joseph we cannot go much worse.
Charles Muscat
Jan 8th, 12:53
In Australia we have enough gas as well as other resources to supply the rest of the world for generations.
The electricity sky rocketed as well as gas since Federal Labor took office. In NSW we elected a newly Liberal premier. Things got worse. I think politicians in Malta are wasting their time negotiating gas deals when they cannot draw blood from a stone.
Mr Ernest Vella
Jan 8th, 12:49
u meta ha jorhsu?
joe muscat
Jan 8th, 13:00
Consumers would still buy electricity from Enemalta and cost savings would amount to around 25 per cent in 2014
Mark Brincat
Jan 8th, 13:11
Did you bother reading the article?
K. Bugeja
Jan 8th, 13:11
fi zmien sena sabih min meta jitla
J Caruana
Jan 8th, 13:17
will start next year (by end of December 2014). I hope he plans to hedge the price of Gas and the Euro against the USD. This is non-sense.
Joseph Galea
Jan 8th, 13:22
Jekk taqra sew ghandek miktub kollox!
A.Felix Busuttil
Jan 8th, 13:40
just read
John Borg
Jan 8th, 13:51
Aqra l-artiklu qabel tparla siehbi!
Keith Goodlip
Jan 8th, 13:59
If you cared to read the first line you would know!!!
Edward Borg
Jan 8th, 17:16
F sena qal Joseph.... progett super fast siehbi. Kollox fuq ir rubini ha jimxi
Karl Bugeja
Jan 8th, 12:46
well done for this initiative. A policy which both families and private firms will benefit from.u
Robert Grech
Jan 8th, 12:44
Any one knows if the proposed reduction in tarriffs is over and above the existing eco-reduction schemes?
Mark Brincat
Jan 8th, 12:52
Listen to the video. Konrad confirms this in the first few seconds.
Robert Grech
Jan 8th, 14:09
True. So that would mean a 40% reduction based on a 3000 unit per annum consumption with price per unit going down to less than 10c. Interessanti ...
Saviour Aquilina
Jan 8th, 12:40
Loghob u paroli ghall voti
Neil Zammit
Jan 8th, 13:30
ma nafx ghalfejn dan il-kumment? kun konstruttiv fil-kritika tieghek. jekk hemm xi haga hazin ghid xqed tara jekk hemm t-tajjeb ghid li tajjeb. Loghob u paroli....Biex jitla partit mhux jitkellem irid. Meta tela il-pn mhux ghax qall li se jrahhas l-income tax 5 snin ilu? ghidt loghob u paroli wara li ghaddew il-hames snin kollha u wettaq dak li wieghek fl-ahhar budget tal-5snin?
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 8th, 13:38
Proset, hekk ghamel Gonzi u HEKK se jerga jaghmel!!
Frank Zammit
Jan 8th, 14:11
I am positively sure you are referring to the PN right?
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 12:37
@ victor laiviera
since fanaticism is blocking all senses of reason I suggest you read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora's_box
I dont expect an apology your comment earlier justifies enough. It shows how flagrant you are when it comes to loyalties.
Wally Vella-Zarb
Jan 8th, 12:58
That link clearly highlights your misuse of the term ' to open Pandora's box'.
John Scerri
Jan 8th, 12:34
Before today Dr. Muscat told us he would tell us how, when and by how much the tariffs will be reduced.
Instead a set of proposals as stated in the presentation is given.
Proposals do not define anything.
One can get proposals for this and that from everywhere and conclude nothing.
Proposals ...not what was expected and the red blinkered PLs swallow everything.
Vincent David Caruana
Jan 8th, 12:48
According to you, JM should have gone, build it up from his own money , signed all agreements in his personal name so that you can have it in front of your eyes. It is obvious that all he has is a proposal at this point in time.
joe muscat
Jan 8th, 12:53
John qieghed tuza is-soltu tattika tal-PN , mhemmx ghalfejn tghidilna nafu li kull ma jaghmel il-PL ghalik hazin , imma nahseb jekk taqra l-istqarrija tal-PN rigward dan il-pjan tinduna li Gonzi nhasad u il-PN mghandu l-ebda pjan.
C Muscat
Jan 8th, 12:33
Il- Kumpaniji li qed isemmi diga qeghdin hawn; Kulma jonqos gvern malti ghal maltin kollha.Joseph keeop it up.
C Muscat
Jan 8th, 12:31
Prosit Joseph. You are the best!
Pav Elliot
Jan 8th, 12:30
A petrol car can be converted to run on gas, which then saves the user approx 40%. This has been known for years.
So running our energy needs on gas and reducing the cost to the user by 25% is a very secure proposal. But PN apologists will have nothing of it. How sad.
Long live the floating voters who uses a brain. On the plus side, 425 comments shows PL is getting attention.
Daniel Soler
Jan 8th, 13:37
Very true, thank god the floating voters, they used their brain for the past 25 years already.
W. Cassar
Jan 8th, 14:02
YOU are right its the floaters that count and not the sheep!
E Schembri
Jan 8th, 12:29
My questions are:
1) Which private companies are going to invest €400million and then bind themself for 10years when the price of gas is expected to continue increasing?
2) If power generation will be handed over to the private sector, we need healthy competition otherwise we will end up at the mercy of one or two private companies, as we are currently with Internet services.
K. Bugeja
Jan 8th, 13:15
meta business man jikri hanut li ghandu 200 euro kuljum kera u jdahhal biss 100 euro kuljum qliegh tahseb li jaghmel sens?? ghalija LE. .. u nibda nghid imma dawn kif ikampaw? + l-ispejjez tad-dawl u pagi. Izda mbad issir taf li dawn ma jkollomx hemm biss u l-flus jkunu qedin idawruhom hafna min banda ohra. Imma dik hi l-ekonomija li ahna zar difficli nifmu. Dak jissejjah investiment ghalihom.
J. Pace
Jan 8th, 12:28
Din bhal ta cipru, u elf haga ohra...gas jghola fid-dinja u dan irid jinvesti fil gas...
u panels? nahseb ilna bl-scheme is snin, u milux PN semma li ha jinvesti f'solar farm
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121224/local/Disused-landfill-to-be-Gozo-solar-farm.450754
C Muscat
Jan 8th, 12:41
J Pace Ghall informazzjoni tieghek u ta min qed jaqra, diga hawn kumpanija/i li qed ifittxu open spaces biex jinvestu u lesti li jaghtu 20% of the produced electricity cost (flus kontanti f idek) minghajr inti ma tohrog xejn la ghal panels u lanqas ghal manutenzjoni.
dawn ghal Gonzi PN huma biss ghal gazetti ghax fir-realta ma jridx jitlef mill kontijiet.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 12:27
Politics apart, I urge all those who like me are either disgruntled nationalists, ex-nationalists and those who have a real sense of national interest at heart to realise the national cause for having a cleain, fresh blank page government who, at least has the energy to lead this country in the interest of its people. Gonzi's goverment is frail, hijacked by the clique and fragmented. Well done PL
J.C. Borg
Jan 8th, 12:38
Mr Micallef, I am very much like you "a disgruntled Nationalist". However I still do not trust labour, because of their past (which is a mirror of the future).
In the circunstances I intend to vote for those Nationalist candidates who did not take advantage of their ministerial/parliamentary position during the past years.
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 12:40
Are you trying to make us believe you are disgruntled? Erm sorry but dont you realise you are insulting our very senses of intelligence? If you had any idea psychologically how to write and make us believe you , your wording would be much different. A disgruntled nationalist the last thing on his mind would be voting and encouraging lejber. Why do you even try to waste time by making us believe
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 12:53
@ JC borg,
I salute you Mr. Borg. I understand your position and I respect it, fully. In my opinion, just as we always hear, il-passat mhux garanzija tal-futur. And Labour's past is past, and I don't think that it was all that bad. Labour has a new leader who is proving himself, far, far different. I feel I can trust him and his team of energetic candidates. I will vote for the new people in PL
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 13:34
@Joseph Micallef the problem is that only the leader has changed MLP has gone back to its roots with JM. At least Alfred Sant has managed to get rid of the marmalja and the ministers who with Mintoff's blessing used to RULE Malta, but JM brought them back and will be ministers if MLP is back in power
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 13:55
@joseph micallef
not only your disgruntleness is a folly but you are reducing yourself to absurdity. If you only look at your so called trust of joseph muscat all you need to do is check his partnership slogan, his iceland advice to keep out of the EU, his advice to keep out of the Euro. joseph muscat if only we had the misfortune to be under his leadership then we would not be reading you.
Chris Balzan
Jan 8th, 12:25
Instead of criticising and spreading doubts, it is time for gonzipn and his clique to show us their proposal about an energy plan for our country. The only thing we know is that they've invested our money in a power station fired with HFO, with fuel prices always on the rise!
Well Done to the PL for showing their vision on energy - a much needed and fundamental infrastructure in our country.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 12:24
I can't find other words except: "Thank you Labour". You really astonished me not just by the concrete, detailed proposals but the overall organisation, preparedness, deep studies and professionalism. I never saw Labour so, but so organised. I'm proud to vote for your for the first time. Others felt proud voting in favour of increasing the electricity bills. My vote is for you. G.luck
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 15:20
There is nothing concrete or detailed in those plans. I alreqady listed at least 10 questions that need to be answered be they technical, financial or economic. Who and what will cover the increases in salaries and wages both for the production company and the distribution company for the next 12 years if the selling price will be fixed? There is nothing yet to thank labour about.
Angelo Polidano
Jan 8th, 12:23
PL have something up their sleeve which they are not divuliging. If they are elected Mr. Joe Mizzi knows where to find the oil, under the sea and not garages, therefore then we become a rich country overnight and bingo. Its simple.
gil falzon
Jan 8th, 12:20
I was about to write something cynical but I have decided to just say that I wish you the best of luck and hope that this materialises. Efficiency is the key. If you can deliver this (efficiency) I will be satisfied.
zaghzugh zaghzugh
Jan 8th, 12:17
Hehe jiena ma nafx ghandiex nidhak jew nibki kif il-partitarji tal pn iridu jmaqdru kollox, iridu li rohs isir mil ghada ta lelezjoni kemm ghandhom memorja qasira dawn mela nesew il wedgha tal-incam tax kellha sir mil ghada ta lelezjoni,imma meta saret parti minnha? f'lahhar gurnata tal legistratura.
Tistghu tghidulna meta u b'kemm ha jrahsu gonzipn
GRAZZI DR MUSCAT
Salvu Borg
Jan 8th, 12:27
Dont worry siehbi, thats the type of Campaigning being done by the GonziSimonPN scare mongering and negativity
Mark Borg
Jan 8th, 13:47
When the PN/GonziPN have NOTHING positive to say they use scare-tactics and rubbish everything under the sun. They do not know better. They are yesterday.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 12:16
This is interesting. Enemalta will end up as distributer of energy, has to keep all it's employees, has to generate a profit from the difference between it's buy-in rate and the selling price established by government and fixed for 11 years, pay salary increases and service it's debt at the same time. I ask - Who is going to reproduce the miracle of the 5 breads and two fishes again?
John Borg
Jan 8th, 13:54
Well the miracle will be done by the PN, but with money from YOUR pockets!
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 12:13
PART 3:
Having said this, being a father of two, in a household of 4 persons, which consumers 12-13 units of electricity per day on average, I sincerely hope that such utility bills will go down, BUT NOT at the expense of the environment
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 12:12
PART 2:
(ii) why the sudden shift from wind to solar? Where is the technical justification for such a shift? Offshore wind power is cheaper than solar;
(iii) what will the footprint of the gas storage tanks and regassification terminal at Delimara be? Do we need to take up more pristine land at Delimara?
Silvan Said
Jan 8th, 12:12
On a lighter note, Konrad Mizzi needs to decide whether to speak in English or Maltese. Better to speak in English than Minglish.
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 12:11
PART 1 - THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PARTISAN COMMENT:
My skin concerns re the PL's utility bills proposals are following:
(i) a token (5%) reduction in water bills will do nothing to stave the current aquifer over-exploitation....all experts, including Marco Cremona, agree that such bills should be much higher to foster a culture of greater respect towards water usage;
Chris Ellul
Jan 8th, 12:07
So we are being told that d private sector is willing to invest some EUR 300 million in this project. Without asking the quest. previous bloggers laid down (all legitimate) i would like 2 add another 1.
If our economy is in ruins (PL's credo for d last 10yrs) - how come they already [presumably] found invest. for a 300M + project? Is this an admission from PL that we r not in such bad shape??
Mario Camilleri
Jan 8th, 12:04
Joseph Muscat: Ser inraħħas il-kontijiet tad-dawl. - Ser jorħsu b'25%.
Lawrence Gonzi: Ser nivvota favur il-kontijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma u bil-qalb. Qed jogħlew ta' kuljum.
Mr Mark Borh
Jan 8th, 12:02
Seeing what a huge fuss was made by the PL and for how long they went on about it, I was expecting something more along the lines of 40%+. 5% on water? Same thing... I'm a floating voter and this doesn't entice me to vote for PL because it's not a significant change. I'm still waiting to see what PN will be offering to make a decision.
Marion Storace
Jan 8th, 13:57
@ Mark Borh : during the last 5 years you did NOT have a reduction (nor did you ask for it) of 25% let alone 40% +. Keep on ''floating'' and you might end up in deep, muddy waters.
John Borg
Jan 8th, 13:58
Well you can opt for higher prices since the only answer from the PN is the usual excuse that the price of fuel is not in our control. Then please explain how fuel prices decrease abroad and here they go higher or else when these go down the percentage they go down in relation would be insignificant!
Aaron Cassar
Jan 8th, 12:02
Tal PN dejjem ibezawna kuragg PL
John Zammit Ph.D.
Jan 8th, 12:02
Today I have just paid my bill for Euros 17.50c for the period 2 May 2012 to 7 November 2012. It is ok I did not use airconditioning and heaters and altough I used mostly gass but even on that I controlled to one cylinder. I am sorry I will not risk my pension for the proposals of the Labour Party - www.john-zammit.eu
joe muscat
Jan 8th, 12:37
Mr Zammit I don`t have Ph.D but i`m not stupid , the amount you paid is not even the service charge . So please try something more realistic :)
James Grima
Jan 8th, 12:40
As if anyone's going to believe you! Why not post a picture of you and 'the bill' on your website?
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 12:55
how funny, I happen to say the same! where is the commotion? I am a very carefull energy user. My bills are quite low. I use gas to cook and I do not like air conditioners. I prefer a fan. Heating is not my favourite and I live well. I too dont like lejbers new idea regarding tariffs.
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 13:37
My bill for the last six months was for €360 euro and I do take a hot shower daily and I do switch on the heater in the evening. Is that a lot of money? I do not have a large house, but if I become unemployed I will not only be able to pay the utility bills and not able to pay the mortgage. So who is going to earn from MLP proposal? Only the persons who keep the AC on all day and waste!
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 13:37
I don't believe that €360 for 6 months is something which people do not afford! An Internet and cable connection cost much more. So the MLP will saves me 25% a month that is €90 for six months whereas the guy who waste electricity and waste water and gets a bill of €2000 for six months is going to save €500 so the only person who gains is who waste not people like me who are careful.
John Zammit Ph.D.
Jan 8th, 13:41
I have checked the bill again, and as I know that I am not good in finance and bills, because the bill that I paid today in fact was an adjustment to Euros 162.98c for the same period mentioned which for me (for six months) is not too much.
Henry S Pace
Jan 8th, 12:00
jUST A PROMISE.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:59
Haga wahda certa! Il PL jiggenera izjed duhhan mill powerstations tal-Marsa u Delimara flimkien!
J Cachia
Jan 8th, 11:59
Cannot wait to vote Labour in March 2013 so that in March 2014 I will pay less for my water and electricity. That reminds me that I also voted MLP in 1996 so that there will be no VAT...
Joe ellul
Jan 8th, 11:58
The price considered is the generation of energy. Is there mention of the distribution costs?
George Cutajar
Jan 8th, 11:53
JM is asking the private sector to invest 370 million euros in return for what? Which private enterprise will simply throw out that money and wait for ten years to recover it back and see some profits - if any? What will happen if the private investor does not come forward?
Charles Muscat
Jan 8th, 11:52
This is all waste of time for everyone. Labour supporters will vote Labour. PN supporters will vote PN regardless whats on the tables. The election is decided by floaters and new voters.
Joe ellul
Jan 8th, 11:50
Can someone answer this question please?
It is said that due to illegal boreholes being regularised there is pressure by the EU to increase the water tariffs by 2015. How can they decreased by 5%?
Giocchino Attard
Jan 8th, 12:46
Yes Labour Party can
Frans Aguis
Jan 8th, 13:48
"It is said that due to illegal boreholes being regularized there is pressure by the EU to increase the water tariffs by 2015"
What would raising the tariffs do to help? unless it means you will include a tax to help solve the problem.
I think the only way to help would be to reduce tariffs, perhaps people will be more discouraged by that.
Kenneth Williams
Jan 8th, 11:48
Dawn il moaners ta hawn isfel ma jinkwetaw xejn.. ... Jistghu jekk ma jaqblux jibqghu jhallsu t tariffa kif inhi issa. B hekk jerga jonqos il kont ta dawk li jaqblu
Toni Borg
Jan 8th, 11:47
How did the PL find the consultant given that no RFI or RFP were issued????
YELLOW PAGES perhaps or is someone already counting his commission earnings??
Alex Ellul
Jan 8th, 11:46
How about the price of LPG in cylinders? Will this remain €20 per cylinder? We need gas to warm our houses in winter costing us hundreds of euros every year. Will Dr. Muscat go into this? How about reducing the cost of a 12Kg cylinder by 25%?
John Borg
Jan 8th, 11:45
Hey, with this ridiculous proposal I'd vote Lejber just to see them ridicule themselves. Unfortunately that will also mean that they will send the Maltese economy on the rocks and send us back to the dark ages.
James Grima
Jan 8th, 12:42
Your lovely tale should have started with 'Once upon a time'!
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 13:42
@James Grima once upon a time in 1996 Alfred Sant assumed personal responsibility to remove the VAT. He kept his promise but he had to introduce 33 new taxes in 22 months and the CET went up to 28% from 15% just to cover up for the mistake. And a hofra of 800 million lira (€1865 million) Thank God that Mintoff voted against him and we got rid of Alfred Sant.
Joseph Tonna
Jan 8th, 11:45
If I was in doubt to whom I will trust the coming five year, now I have decided.
I have to vote PN.
I don't accept anyone to treat my intelligence this way.
I will leave it up to you people out there to evaluate the PL proposal on electricity bills.
It can never happen the way the PL is saying.
I am afraid that this is a repeat of the VAT situation in 1996!!!
M Grima
Jan 8th, 12:36
Perhaps you need someone to explain the PL's proposal as you did not understand anything. It is true we have been subjected to a mediocre PN government where nothing works but this is Labour who is doing the talking. What the PL says it delivers contrary to the smokey promises of your beloved GonziPN.
George Cassar
Jan 8th, 14:28
a long time PN apologist ??!!
C. Bartoli
Jan 8th, 15:09
Will I risk what I have today for a mere €15 discount a month? My last bill for six months was of €360, So the MLP will saves me 25% a month that is €90 for six months whereas the guy who waste electricity and waste water and gets a bill of €2000 for six months is going to save €500 so the only person who gains is who waste not people like me who are careful.
Joe aquilina
Jan 8th, 11:44
well done pl i will vote for you 9 march ex pn
Victor Buhagiar
Jan 8th, 11:44
How pathetic first everybody questions how tariffs reduction could be achieved? Now that the basics are known everyone is trying to play the expert I know better? You have a road map which could make sense - minus some political gimmicks - on the other hand maybe yes PL has made its home work. What is important is that there seems to be some fresh ideas about how to tackle national problems
Alex Ellul
Jan 8th, 11:43
What would be the price of the LNG? As far as I know, gas is much more expensive than oil. The cheapest source of energy is coal, then heavy oil, then light oils and diesels and then LPG or LNG although if Obama opens up US LNG exports, the price of LNG in the US is very cheap due to the abundance of the gas from frack-drilling. I do not see this PL dream as economically doable. Technically yes.
Mr Alexander Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 12:03
Gas is way cheaper than Oil inform yourself !
Mario Camilleri
Jan 8th, 12:14
So it's obvious why the PN chose HFO!! Due to the fact that coal is absolutely the most environmentally unfriendly hence HFO is next in line and still an acceptable fuel by EU standards whilst is the second cheapest. And the HFO is detrimental to our health and the environment which in turn would cost the nation more in unhealthy population.
Edward Mallia
Jan 8th, 12:43
LPG has nothing to do with LNG: two different hydrocabons or hydrocarbon mixes in the case of LPG. There are plenty of international sites giving current natural gas (gas or liquid) prices and other hydrocarbon prices. Please remember that theprice should be properly related to the energy content of the fuel. So what was intended as a machete swipe turned out to be a bananaskin slap.
Joseph Vassallo
Jan 8th, 11:43
It is clear that tariffs will not be reduced to levels of 2008!
More importantly, which company is going to invest 400,000,000 euro and bind itself not to increase tariffs for a period of 10 years, especially since gas is always on the increase!
Salvu Borg
Jan 8th, 12:24
Mr. Vassallo , are you implying that everything goes back to 2008, (such as the PM’s and of those around him) EACH had a wage increase of €80,000 over a period of 4 years ? who said that the prises should go down to those pre 2008. A lot of spin doctors are walking around tal-Pieta. Be credible and accept now that you know when by-how much and how.
Leo Bartolo
Jan 8th, 11:42
Instead of being happy that at last the W&E tariifs are going down, the comments of the people below are grumbling that this project will not work. I never thought that we have so many experts and professionals on energy. It is time now for the PN to tell us when, where and how the energy tariffs are going to be decresed
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:57
Happy??? happy with what? Miskin
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 11:42
Evident panic reactions from PN apologists.
Can you please take a step back and think about what's good for the country and not for the party?
Anthony Farrugia
Jan 8th, 11:40
Do Sargas and John Dalli enter into PL/MLP equation ? Straight answer please ! BTW am not holding my breath !
Doreen Attard
Jan 8th, 11:38
Dear Nationalists, you got the beef you were asking for. I am sure you don't know exactly what hit you, in spite of the fact that you knew that our leader was due to officially telling everyone on utility bills plans. Your problem is that you are so used not to believe what Dr Gonzi says when he speaks of future plans that you apply this also to Dr Muscat. They are different, you know!
Alan Deidun
Jan 8th, 12:00
what beef Doreen? An unsustainable reduction in water pricing, which will do nothing to cut over-exploitation of our groundwater? How is it that now all talk of saving our aquifers has evaporated into thin air? This is a tokenism (economically speaking since 5% is a pittance) which at the same time makes no environmental sense
Mr Albert Dimech
Jan 8th, 11:38
As promised the proposal is delivered. Simple, this is an alternative to paying more as the EU has stated in relation to what this government wants to do. Now do you want to pay more or less? The PN has no plant to reduce tariffs but if any to raise them.
Steven Smith
Jan 8th, 11:36
NOTICE THE WORDING "PROPOSED" THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL BECOME REALITY !!
Joe ellul
Jan 8th, 11:52
Also JM had said that they will be implemented within his first year in Government...........already slipping to 2015
Andrew Pullicino
Jan 8th, 11:53
They must be in government to become reality
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 11:54
Ghandek xi dubju peress li Gonzi kien wieghed il progett tal wind farms?
Mr Albert Dimech
Jan 8th, 11:59
Oh how amusing, it's a proposal, will become reality if the electorate decide to vote for it. Such a simple thing to understand.
Wally Vella-Zarb
Jan 8th, 12:26
And your point is?
paul falzon
Jan 8th, 11:36
I was genuinly expecting the PL to come up with one strong plan after 4 1/2 years of bombarding us with this ..... maybe the PL Consultants, JM and all those responsible for bringing this proposal have FAILED TO FORSEE THAT THE PRICES OF GAS IS FORECASTED TO INCREASE BY 25% IN THE SHORT TERM!!
http://etfdailynews.com/2012/12/17/6-reasons-why-natural-gas-prices-will-rise-25-from-current-levels/
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 12:07
Ma semmejtx kemm waqa bil kbir l prezz is sena l'ghaddiet, allura hi ovvja li jista jerga joghla.
paul falzon
Jan 8th, 12:44
@ Eve Axiaq : I suggest you should get more acquainted with energy prices and what causes them to fluctuate.
As for your comment, this was published during December 2012, a time when oil prices were ( and still are) almost USD 95 per barrel.
Get your facts right .......
Albert Bonello
Jan 8th, 11:35
From initial reports there will be no reduction in the cost of the meter charge! I would also like to ask is the eco reduction scheme going to be kept? I ask this because we already benefit from a 25% discount on the first 1000 units consumed and a 15% discount on the remaining 750 units per person if there are 2 or more persons living in the same household. If one person it is 25% on 2000 units!!
Roberto Fenech
Jan 8th, 11:35
So Muscat will turn Enemalta from a producer of energy to a distributor. what will happen to the 1500 employees with Enemalta???
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 12:11
What happened to drydocks, seamalta??
B Ellul
Jan 8th, 11:32
Love this! Komplu dahqu :)
Giocchino Attard
Jan 8th, 11:31
Why people don't like good news? I'll be saving 100.00 euros every two months allready anough for me.Thank you. Four votes for you Joseph
J. Borg
Jan 8th, 12:03
You are assuming you will be saving 100 Eur per month. There is no guarantee ...a bit like the promise PN made of reducing the tax rate. Promises by politicians on both sides need to be taken with a big pinch salt. So look at all the package on both sides before your promise your vote. Also interesting how you can promise four votes and not one. Under people around you not free to decide?
R. Gauci
Jan 8th, 12:08
Like
Joann Bugeja
Jan 8th, 12:15
Tahseb li il-konitjiet se 'jorhsu' mill-ewwel..aqra sew !! Tkunx mazzun u tara biss 25% !!
Edward Gatt
Jan 8th, 11:29
So the whole plan depends on the private sector investing in the new power station. So what happens if no-one from the private sector wants to make such an investment? Can we have a guarantee that the consultant present this morning would in no way be involved?
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jan 8th, 12:10
If any particular private sector investor would not be interested, why should the consultant be barred from participating. At least that would mean that he is putting his money where his mouth is. And that would be doing far more than most commentators here.
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 12:13
With a 10 year (min) power purchasing agreement I don't see why no one would invest in the machines.
Edward Gatt
Jan 8th, 14:06
@ Paul Salnitro
Depends on how much Joseph Muscat at is prepared to pay for the electricity bought from the private contractor.
Edward Gatt
Jan 8th, 14:07
@ Paul Salnitro
Depends on how much Joseph Muscat at is prepared to pay for the electricity bought from the private contractor.
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 15:07
@Edwards 14.06
The same article has a projected unit cost of electricity. I guess all we have to do is wait and see but I did not see these reactions and questions when the PN was doing its thing.
Mind you the whole exercise on the government side (BWSC) was a tribute to non-transparency and mismanagement and frankly I found the proposals less retarded then usual.
Mr Joe Frendo
Jan 8th, 11:28
So Dr. Muscat, you are assuming personal responsibility.
So let me put this straight. Does it mean, that you will 'resign' if project fails? And what ...'Malta Taghna Ikoll' will remain with the burden that you have imposed on us through your failure?
This 'game' is not to my liking!
JF
Joseph Parnis
Jan 8th, 12:07
yea like Gonzi resigned when most of his projects and government failed, what about when he took from us the ppl 600 eruos a week for himself and his merry gang for three years when found out did he resign answer to above questions No Also what about Austin Gatt failures did he resign answer no,so to me Gonzi can not be trusted and the sooner he goes the better.
Mr Joe Frendo
Jan 8th, 14:35
Mr. Parnis, so you are happy with a 5% reduction on water. This is what Dr. Anglu Farrugia was saying, that the reduction on water will be so minimal that you can take it as nothing reduced, and Joseph sacked him for that.
Simple mathematics, 5% reduction will be 50cents in your water bill is 10euros, 2.50 euros for 50 euro water bill, and 5 euro for 100 euro bill! ... Wow! That is impressive!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:27
"He expressed confidence that the private sector would come forward to invest in the new power house and the conversion of Delimara II to gas - a total investment of some €370m."
Oh interesting! So what happens if no one from the private sector comes forward.
Mind you I'm sure they will, given the captive market. Probably they already have (in the process paying for 30K+ 25 minute activities)
Luca Barbara
Jan 8th, 11:27
I'm asking to myself...Why everyone is so anxious to see PL proposals????
...Of course GPN's proposals are always a surprise!!!
You never know whats gonna happen. More than 75% of what they did in this legislature, wasn't mentioned in last electoral program. I believe no one needs more clarifications hux???
Alex Falzon
Jan 8th, 11:59
The election manifesto will be a continuation the of Budget 2013
Chris Balzan
Jan 8th, 11:25
The PL has brought forward it's plan on energy. A visionary plan, using a cleaner and affordable source.
What is the PN's plan on Energy? Keep on going on HFO? Or a couple of more U-Turns, as proved on wind power, gas-fired, HFO etc?!
joe muscat
Jan 8th, 11:25
The energy proposal unveiled Tuesday morning by Partit Laburista has been backed by energy experts DNV Kema. I prefer to listen to these experts rather to Mr Gonzi
Carmel Zammit
Jan 8th, 11:24
Brilliant plan. Very business minded and achievable plan.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:58
I see you are not a businessman.
George Camilleri
Jan 8th, 13:54
neither are you Mr Micallef, if you can't see the feasibility behind such a proposal
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 16:08
Camilleri as always you're wrong! I see feasibility in the plan but for the private operator.
Malcolm Farrugia
Jan 8th, 11:23
Apart from the reduction in utility tariffs and a cleaner power plant, Joseph Muscat is more than willing to assume personal responsability for the ongoing of the energy/environmental sector, this means that accountability has already started to take form even while Pl is not yet in government, so this is another reason for me to feel safe to vote Joseph Muscat and Partit Laburista!
Alfred Formosa
Jan 8th, 11:23
I thought Joseph Muscat and PL were against SPVs (Special Purpose Vehicles).
J. Borg
Jan 8th, 12:04
Not of the vehicle's destination is the OPM in Castille :)
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jan 8th, 11:22
All those hailing this proposal as manna from heaven, would be better to reconsider their evaluation!
Just wait for a few more days, when the ‘critics’ will tear down this proposal to bits and pieces!
All this hype by Joseph Muscat will soon fall on his head like a ton of bricks and wonder what hit him!
Time will tell!
JC.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jan 8th, 11:21
A well thought out energy strategy providing both short term and longer term solutions to switching over to gas. It will also ensure that ENEMALTA will not continue piling up debts now approaching almost a billion. I am sure the Maltese public will be willing to invest if attractive terms are offered. The energy plan must have been carefully piloted by experts including no doubt Konrad Mizzi
Joseph Scicluna
Jan 8th, 12:02
Konrad Mizzi an energy expert?. OMG
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 12:05
There are many questions to be answered especially private agreements giving concession to a whole market without going to tender. Also, the timeframe is not doable considering all the preliminary design and permits before setting foot on site to start the work. And who is crazy enough to bind a price for 12 years for a commodity that apart from the market depends also on political climate?
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 12:25
You mean invest in a company that is tied with a fixed selling price! Hope you are not an IFA - if you are get an other job!
Norman E Grech
Jan 8th, 11:21
Whatever you do, rats always find a way to gnaw at anything that gives power and hope. It is in their intrinsic nature to infiltrate, take over and ruin!
The time has come for a good clean up and eradication of pests!
Hubert Paul Farrugia
Jan 8th, 11:20
"The Labour Party's alternative energy policy will emphasise solar power, a shift from wind."
The PN has done this all throughout the current legislature. What about all the Solar energy schemes which were given to homes and businesses?
If Labour hadn't voted against the budget, to which it had agreed with in principle, more schemes would have been launched!
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 12:17
If the PN hadn't slept for over a decade, they could have implemented all the schemes/changes/plans/visions they desired.
What they ended up doing is leave everything till the end to end, panic and end up with the BWSC plant.
John Grech
Jan 8th, 11:20
Jekk jm se jkun fil Gvern de jkolna SUPERGVERN!!! Dan ifakkarna fil perit mintoff u lorry sant Gvern gaffa!!!!
Malcolm Farrugia
Jan 8th, 11:20
Utility bills will be reduced by 25%, thats a stark improvement from the current situation, where we pay high tariffs for a lousy service riddled with powercuts and pollution especcially in the form of particulate matter. I believe that partit Laburista will act accordingly with this plan if elected, unlike PN who managed to engulf Enemalta with € 800 million in debt!
Philip Grima
Jan 8th, 11:19
I must say, I am amazed how some of you lot can grasp the technical aspects of the project so quickly .We shall wait and see if this is a CET Mark11 where Alfred Sant got himself in a tangle trying to explain the workings . I sincerely hope that the project is sustainable. We cannot afford to play with fire. The pain Greece, Spain Cyprus etc are going through is too close for comfort.
Paul Caruana
Jan 8th, 11:18
I have to say that the plan described does appear to be overly optimistic....which is the norm for similar plans with the current administration. So basically, for 99% of us, it does not really matter who wins as, change of bazuzli apart, everything else will remain the same!
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 11:18
BOMBA TA'
376 MILJUN EWRO
LI JFISSRU TAXXA TA'
€ 2,500 FUQ KULL FAMILJA MALTIJA.
DIN AGĦAR MINN TAL-VAT/SISA.
.
Mr Alexander Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 12:04
fejna it taxxa jekk il prodott il gvern ser ikun qed jixtrih irhass !!
J.C. Borg
Jan 8th, 11:18
I am already having a 25% reduction on my electricity bill. Does anyone think that for a mere 10% on my bill, I will prefer a Labour Government???
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 11:17
How come other countries haven't thought of this? Are all of them stupid? They'd have way less of an expense to lay down the pipeworks across land too!
Nahseb ghax JM biss ghandu l-ideat tajbin fid-dinja. Ommi ma kemm ahna xxurtjati li kellna jkollna lilu! Bil-konsulenzi tieghu biss Malta wkoll tghix!
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 12:22
Other countries have thought of this, plenty of CCGT plants run all over continental Europe and more being built (although coal made a recent comeback).
Plants operated by private companies make money in the cut throat world of free power markets (without a guaranteed purchasing agreement JM is offering the future operator).
So the only stupid one is you.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 11:16
Expenditure: €166 + €68 + €142 million = €376 million
€ 2,500 per family.
This is worse than VAT/Sisa.
.
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 13:17
Current debt - 5b - 33,000Euro per family. Now, what's 2500Euro compared to that? Chump change!
Stephen Borg
Jan 8th, 11:15
Will Gas price remain the same??
http://moneymorning.com/2012/12/14/2013-natural-gas-forecast-six-bullish-reasons-why-now-is-the-time-to-buy/
Patrick Zahra
Jan 8th, 11:14
If there where any lingering doubts as to how I will vote now there are non, I will vote for the party that puts the interest of my health and my environment 1 st and foremost , I will, for the first time vote PL!! Hope I won't be disappointed
Alex Falzon
Jan 8th, 12:03
Think twice... I welcome new initiative but this plan is not convincing 100%
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 8th, 13:56
Better a plan that needs some fine tuning rather than one based on more of the same when the same we are being said is neither sustainable, nor tenable in the longer term both financially nor environmentally. HFO for goodness sake, dare go to dellimara on the days they are unloading the stuff and you will smell the fumes for yourself.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 11:14
Check for yourselves electricity tariffs in Holland are 22c per unit,
almost double Malta's 12c
(after the 25% eco-reduction on the first 2,000 units that covers 95% of families).
www.energy.eu
Paul Salnitro
Jan 8th, 12:23
You should see how much the minimum wage is... yeah right.
Carmel Borg
Jan 8th, 11:13
Like the LP logo, this sounds nice.
But also communism sounded nice back then, the country belongs to the people, all people are equal it just did not work out, because it was unworkable, like labour and its' proposals. Unfortunately, only time will tell.
David Triganza
Jan 8th, 11:12
Serji u Accountable - Wicc gdid ta' politika.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 8th, 11:12
Joseph Micallef: Qatt habbilt rasek kif GonziPN kien se jsib il-flus ghal-progetti bla sens li ghamel - bhal parlament u tijatru bla sdaqaf, u l-pont li ma jwassal ghal imkien ?????
J Borg
Jan 8th, 11:12
Although I don't think that the plan will work as is, it might be the case that improvements can really be made with some more discussions. Also, im 100% positive that nothing is going to be finished by 2014 and i truly beleive that there will be some hidden charges. But even if costs are decreased by 10% i think its good enough. Btw what abt PN, when are they going to unveil their strategies?10x
miriam mestre
Jan 8th, 11:11
Much needed reduction in the utility bills!
A. Mifsud
Jan 8th, 11:10
Private sector in the utilities sector, can be extremely dangerous in the long term!!!
When fuel prices skyrocket - no private entity will agree to subsidise
Beware. Look at the protests around the world from citizens protesting against privatisation of utilities.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:09
How about changing water into wine?
Joseph Parnis
Jan 8th, 12:12
you already had a pn supporter doing that a few years back or have you forgotten
M Grima
Jan 8th, 12:47
@Joseph Parnis
I beg to correct you it was whiskey into water
John Bezzina
Jan 8th, 11:09
"Enemalta would enter into a power purchase agreement with the investors of the new power station, fixing the price of energy for 10 years."
I'm sure any prospective investors would welcome this condition considering how volatile the price of oil and gas had been over the past few years. I can see these investors queuing to be part of this philanthropic scheme jm came up with.
M Sciberras
Jan 8th, 11:09
People are going to be hoodwinked by this because most don't know how the energy market works. A'power purchase agreement' that would fix the price for 10 years?? No country has one - for valid reasons! This would mean at best some form of forward buying at a premium - for 10 years, which is insane!! Even if they find a supplier willing to sign up the premium paid will offset the budgeted savings.
James Grech
Jan 8th, 11:09
Now one pretends to hear what the PN will be doing. Will it increase/reduce the tariffs or keep the status quo? Will it go for gas after all? How much will their conversion cost? When will this happen? Will they give the same guarantees as the PL is committed to give? By how much will the cost be reduced? What does the PN's energy policy say? Il-passat mhux necessarjament garanzija tal-futur.
Paul Meilak
Jan 8th, 11:08
The gas energy concept might take at least 4 years ! Cannot beleive how this will be up and running in 2014 ! It is a bit far from reality...sorry cannot beleive it.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:07
6. And finally Will Dr Muscat pay out of hios own pocket if this does not materialise? I am taking him on his word of being personally responsible.
There are too many holes in the P.L. carrot. They are once again playing with people's wishes. How about early retirement at 55 like the Greek were?
Giovann Attard
Jan 8th, 11:07
Aktar ma toqrob id-data tal-elezzjoni generali, aktar qed tigi cara l-ghazla li ghandu l-elettorat Malti u Ghawdxi fid-9 ta' Marzu li gej - jekk nibqghu mwahhlin bl-istess KLIKKA TA NIES li holqot kankru fil-pajjiz u kissret lill-familji u lin-negozji Maltin jew inkella naghzlu tim kompetenti ta' nies li jridu jbiddlu ghall-ahjar id-direzzjoni hazina li qabad dan il-pajjiz f'hafna oqsma!
Joe Falzon
Jan 8th, 11:07
I think the water tariffs will be reduced due to the famous AUDIT which the PL will implement once in government.
Solar energy: they just copied the proposal from the 2013 Budget. They didn't even gave an explanation of how...
J. Camilleri
Jan 8th, 11:07
Gonzi motto: 'FINANZI FIS-SOD'
Ma nafx kemm tberbqu flus f-kunsulenzi - JPO kien qal miljuni fuq miljuni. Qed nuza l-klema tberbqu ghax kienu kunsulenzi fazulli. Kulhadd jaf fejn marru l-flus insomma! fit-theatru imwaqqa.... f'bieb il-belt...
u id-dejn jibqa tiela u tiela.... finanzi fis-sod!
Joseph Pavia
Jan 8th, 11:05
Bil-pjan tal PL l-aktar li ha nifrankaw barra mill-kontitijiet tad dawl u l-ilma hija fuq il-hsara enormi li bhalissa ghandna fuq sahhitna. Il-kont ahhari fuq is-Sahha zgur se jonqos drastikament maz-zmien ghax ha jkunu hafna inqas in-nies li se jbatu b'azma jew kancer li kienu jirrisultaw kawza tal-power stations tal-lum.
Albert Bonello
Jan 8th, 11:05
From the initial reports it is clear that there will be no reduction in the meter rent therefore no savings on this cost. Also will the eco reduction scheme still apply? I say this because we already benefit from a 25% reduction on the first 1000 units and 15% reduction on the remaining 750 units allocated to each person insofar that there are two or more persons living in the same household.
Alex Falzon
Jan 8th, 11:05
There is a lot of loopholes in this project. As for the private sector to invest heavily with no profit for the next ten years looks to me quite strange... Well for few euros its not worth changing the government. So thanks but No thanks PL
Silvan Said
Jan 8th, 11:04
What a gamble! All these proposals are based on the price of gas. Assuming they would be in place in two or three years time, how can the PL assume that the price of gas will remain marginally cheaper than other fuels when these can be dictated by political developments in the major gas producing countries? A case of putting all one's eggs in one basket.
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:03
3. If the project will deliver in 2015 who will subsidise the 25% of the bills in 2014?
4. To complete the project in the timeframe stated all design, materials and permits must be in hand now. Can P.L. state who paid for these either in money or in kind?
5. Can P.L. say how it secured a fixed price contract for gas for 10 years from 2015 i.e. for12 years when gas is traded as a comodity?
Simon Scerri
Jan 8th, 11:15
agree with you, we will end up like cyprus!!
Carmel Borg
Jan 8th, 11:16
Based on what JM said, if I was a gambler and JM was a man of his word ("personally responsible"), I'll gamble that he will resign in less time than his predecessor.
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 8th, 11:18
Joseph Micallef Can P.L. say how it secured a fixed price contract for gas for 10 years
BY bulk baying
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 11:20
Joseph wasn't it you that were trumpeting in favor of the PL a few days ago? Or was it someone with the same name? (honestly I don't know)
If it IS the same person, did this open your eyes? If yes then thank God!
A Cuschieri
Jan 8th, 11:01
So, some simple mathematics.
Expenditure: €166 + €68 + €142 = €376
Cost saving from generation = €187
A difference of €189 - fine it's invested in the infrastructure. But do you honestly believe that in the meantime Government can reduce the tarrifs ... whilst adding maintenance costs?
Sorry one element missing - the ACTUAL supply of gas. Was that factored in?
Adrian Gouder
Jan 8th, 11:01
Build a more efficient power station in ONE YEAR!
AND, that includes the tendering process and removing the 'old' power station and its people (where will they work)? It would indeed be interesting to see how that can happen!
And what about the old dues (Enemalta Current Liabilities) plus the cost of the new power station, who's going to pay for those and in which time-frame?
Maria Camilleri
Jan 8th, 11:00
Does Muscat work miracles?????
miriam mestre
Jan 8th, 11:10
No. He works for the people and not for a 4 million commission.
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 8th, 11:10
No he just works by using a very common thing.....the brain...something which for GonziPN is a bonus.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 8th, 11:15
Maria Camilleri: It's not a question of working miracles. But of serious planning and determination to implement what you promise !
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 11:16
seems so.
Carmel Zammit
Jan 8th, 11:28
Rather than limiting himself to browsing the yellow pages, Dr. Muscat employed good brains and utilised his time in opposition working out achievable detailed plans that involve the private sector. All this was done in the interests of the Maltese nation.
p galea
Jan 8th, 11:38
Perhaps setting his priorities right - more appropriate NO??????? we did not need a parliament that is a block of concrete in the middle of the square???? who are the beneficiaries of this building????
Pippo de Marco
Jan 8th, 10:59
One of the visuals shows RESIDENTIAL tariffs. Does this mean that PL plans to continue the discriminatory and ILLEGAL dual pricing . If so, then what contingency has it made to repay all the overcharges when the EU finally steps in ? - That will be a huge amount of money, so where will it come from ?
The same question applies to PN too.
David Triganza
Jan 8th, 11:05
Ser jorhos. Ghad-djar, ghan-negozji, ghall-industrija. Ser jorhos ghax ma jistax ikun li nhallsu dawk il-prezzijiet ghal servizz tant hazin. Dawl jinqata' ta' spiss, heavy fuel oil inigges u jeqred sahhtek.
Ser jorhos ghal kulhadd ghax JM ghandu l-prijoritajiet issettjati b'mod tajjeb. Mhux f'butu imma f'butna.
Mr Adrian Grech Cumbo
Jan 8th, 10:58
Well Done Labour party ! Well done Joseph. I have read all comments and maybe someone from these bloggers can tell me how my electricity bill is still high when I even invested heavily to have the Panels plus the solar water heater . I even complanied to the Authorities and you know what answer I got till to date readers : NOTHING 0 . A shame indeed !
Carmel Borg
Jan 8th, 11:06
Better check your PV installation, mine reduced 75%
John Borg
Jan 8th, 13:43
Maybe you are consuming more electricity than before.
Could be before you switched on the air conditioner once a week and now you are leaving it on every day. No matter how many panels you installed if you consume more than you save, the obviously your bill will be higher
Anton Attard
Jan 8th, 10:58
Coming from the business community - i am impressed. A very business approach. Well done to the Labour Party. And i must say that i am surprised at myself writing this down
Joann Bugeja
Jan 8th, 11:11
Look ahead-long term..not short-term my friend !!
John Borg
Jan 8th, 12:05
Which business community do you come from? Philanthropy? If you cannot see through PL's scheme's then I'd stop doing business, because probably at the end of the year your Profit & Loss will be negative.
Which investor will come forward and invest heavily and fix price for 10 years?
What guarantee do you have that price of gas will not rocket as is predicted?
Who will pay Enemalta's old debt?
Joseph Micallef
Jan 8th, 10:57
Pie in the sky. Why?
1. Will labour government be giving away for free the buildings and infrastructure of Delimara 1.
2. Did labour already agree with a contractor (that is the private sector who will 'invest' in this project) without going through the financial regulations proceedure thus beaking the law of not going out to tender? And this is already being done from the oppostion.
To cont
Joseph Pavia
Jan 8th, 11:12
Ta tant bini u azjendi bir-rebass l-PN fil-gvern ghageb ghax ha' jaghmel progett nazzjonali li jhallina aktar sinjuri kemm fil-but u anke u l-iktar f'sahhitna l-PL! Jekk il-prezz ta' dan huwa ghall sahhitna ahjar mela ha jsosstnu ruhom bil-qalb kull min ha jinvesti f'dan il-progett.
D Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:57
What about the unicorn petting zoo that was promised??
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 11:14
Lol you crack me up! Don't forget the Pegasus horse-riding at Golden Bay, flying over the rainbows.
D Gatt
Jan 8th, 12:49
Well that might prove a bit difficult Mr. Spiteri. Imagine hunting season in full swing and you go riding a Pegasus MK5 over the beautiful Golden bay. You would be just asking for a couple of MG42 rounds in your behind!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 13:18
LOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Hmm what can we offer in exchange? Do you think centaurs would agree to centaur-riding? "Go for a trot ON us! We'll keep you company!"
Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 10:56
''Muscat to assume personal responsibility''
Let me get this right. If this does not work Joseph Muscat head will resign?
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 11:08
If only that happened every time....what a lot of new faces we would have seen.
George Cremona
Jan 8th, 11:23
Yes, why not? That is what a proper leader should do. Not like the present government.
Maria Mangion
Jan 8th, 11:25
Ma tahsibx li wasal iz zmien li l politici taghna ikunu kontabbli u jinzammu responsabbli ta' ghemilhom. Zgur li Joseph ma ghandux x' jitghallem mill PN f'dan ir rigward.
A Cuschieri
Jan 8th, 11:26
He said Personal not Political responsibility. I hope he knows the difference between the two ...
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 11:52
If only that happens every time.....we would have seen many new faces....
M Calleja
Jan 8th, 12:03
Joseph Muscat is tying his political future with the success of this proposal. Therefore he will reduce the tariffs at any cost, even if it turns out that the reductions as planned are not feasible, and at the expense of wrecking havoc with the economy.
This is similar to how Alfred Sant dealt with his promise to remove VAT. It’s more of the same from Labour.
David Smith
Jan 8th, 10:56
This 'cunning plan' includes too many assumptions: (i) that the private sector will be ready to invest 370million euro with no increasing profits for 10 years; (ii) that the EU will fund 142 million for the gas supply infrastructure; (iii) that the price of gas will remain stable for the next 10 years; (iv) that the supply of gas can be guaranteed.
Peter Bonello
Jan 8th, 11:06
ifhem, Gonzi weghdna il wind farms fil bahar, imma ghadna bxejn ...
Henry Borg
Jan 8th, 10:55
PL promise based on a private investor investing €400 Million. Same private investor to take all risk of price of gas for the next ten years.
and pigs can fly
David Triganza
Jan 8th, 11:27
u l-bwsc ma tniggisx u l-arriva kienet success u jien hadt 500 eur fil-gim gha
Lucienne Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:54
same old talk as in 1996 ...then mlp got elected and did the opposite. not to be trusted.
Carmel Borg
Jan 8th, 11:08
I hope you're wrong, but my guts tell me you're right.
Mark. Galea
Jan 8th, 10:53
Private is no charity
Damian Testa
Jan 8th, 10:51
Personally responsible, huh? How does that work exactly? Do we sue Muscat when debt and taxes spin out of control and the economy crashes?
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 11:22
Debt and deficit already went out of control under GOnziPN
Mr Anthony Briffa
Jan 8th, 10:50
It looks too simplistic at a first glance. My questions are twofold, where does the tendering committee figures in all this as it seems that negotiations with one supplier have already been concluded, and secondly when will the PAC start to scrutinize this private arrangement? Going one further I have a hunch that this secret deal will be shedding a lot of light on certain unanswered doubts.
John Galea
Jan 8th, 10:49
Is this all the fuss? should we change a government that delivered for 25 euros a month as from next year? Hallina Joseph.
James Grech
Jan 8th, 11:02
Mr Galea, you first need to appreciate that your math is not really up to scratch. Cause 25% does not necessarily add up to €25 since it depends on the the amount to pay. However, for your consideration, on a €100 monthly bill that's a good 1/4 which equates to €300 per year on a present bill of €1200. It is definitely much more pleasant than having to pay that amount.
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 8th, 11:14
Are you ready to take that amount out on my behalf monthly please??
David Triganza
Jan 8th, 11:26
I would gladly take 25 eur a month if you have nothing better to do with them
btw it's 25% not eur
A Abela
Jan 8th, 10:48
Prosit Dr Muscat. Go for it, flimkien kollox possiblii.
Silvio Attard
Jan 8th, 10:47
The PL had objected to building a power station at delimara, now they are not only replacing it but also building a gas plant and a berthing facility for the gas carrier there. So much for retaining Marsaxlokk as a tourist attraction!
Simon Micallef
Jan 8th, 10:53
Silvio did you object for the building of both powerstations at Delimara. Please be reasonibl.e
Joann Bugeja
Jan 8th, 10:47
@ Matthew Gatt- re. your previous comment on solar energy - Who has introduced solar energy in Malta?! PN of course...so there's nothing new !
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:46
They SAID there will be no new taxes resulting from this, but what about current taxes? Will we see VAT spike up to higher levels? Or some other tax on fuels? Remember they never mentioned anything about fuel surcharge.
Say you get 25% off your utility bill. Are those savings enough to cover for an increase in fuel prices?
Also this whole thing is supposed to start from 2014.
Eddy Privitera
Jan 8th, 11:09
Reuben Spiteri: KIeku Dr. Muscat tarah jimxi fuq l-ilma, tghid li Dr. Muscat ma jafx jghum !
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 11:24
Fuel surcharge = PN
Tax on fuels = PN
VAT spike = PN
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 11:52
Sur Privitera mhux haga simili qieghed jaghmel JM? Ilma jizfen. Nahseb ahna ha nispiccaw nizfnu wahedna meta ifarrak pajjiz.
Basta jkun l-izghar PM li qatt kellha Malta!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 11:55
Sur Galea l-ekonomija globali f'idejn il-gvern kienet? Le hux? Mela ara x'ikkawza dawk iz-zidiet qabel ma tparla.
Hadd ma ha gost bihom tinkwetax, imma donnu uhud minnkom ma tifhmux qabel ma l-pajjiz jitfarrak. U xorta wara li l-PN jerga jqajmu fuq saqajh jaqbez 'salvatur' iehor minn naha taghkom.
Jalla qatt ma jigri, imma b'JM al go hajt tal-konkrit sejrin! Bil-mija!
J Micallef
Jan 8th, 10:46
Starting this week until the eve of the election, I think it's the time not to believe absolutely anyone...
V. DeBono
Jan 8th, 10:46
Time for a change in management. PL so well prepared. Well done
Joseph Galea
Jan 8th, 10:45
X' serjeta!!
Fil-veru sens tal-Kelma: GHALINA U GHAL ULIEDNA!
GRAZZI PL!
John Borg
Jan 8th, 10:44
ASSUMING THE PRIVATE SECTOR WANTS TO INVEST!!!!!
Who wants to partner up with/invest in Enemalta? Volunteers anyone?
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 8th, 11:18
If there is a good management, the private sector would not only benefit from less energy tariffs but also make profit. Guess its simple business. And thats another promise PL is making...Good administration, accountability and responsibility. The PN lacked in all these points. By the way....the PN never said they will reduce tariffx and never denied that the tariffs wouldn't go up anymore.
Joseph Mifsud
Jan 8th, 11:20
Another point....maybe the PL is going to adopt Austin's highly professional way to find investors....finding them on the yellow pages lool
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 11:25
So you admit that your GOnziPN made a mess out of Enemalta and the energy sector.
Joseph Bezzina
Jan 8th, 10:44
This is all so tragically unnecessary. Labour are going to win anyway, so for heaven's sake why did they have to come up with plan to wreck our public finances and take us down the path trodden by Greece?
Simon Micallef
Jan 8th, 10:55
Dear joe . Greece was governed by an irresponsible conservative government. Are you one of the new PL voters Joe?
Eddy Privitera
Jan 8th, 11:07
Joseph Bezzina: We would follow the way of Greece if GonziPN is re-elected and continues squandering HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS on projects which end up costing DOUBLE the estimate ! This has happened on just 6 projects- €668 million over-runs !
Lawrence Attard
Jan 8th, 10:44
Israel could also be an alternative source for gas, as it has one of the world's largest gas finds. Besdies a stable democracy.
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 10:44
PART III
- Il-produttur ewlieni tal-gass fl-Ewropa, mnejn l-Ewropa kollha ggib il-gass hi r-Russja u l-Ukraina, zewg pajjizi mifnija min instabbilta' politika -uinstabbilta' = gholi tal-prezz, kfi se niggarantixxu li tonqos din?
Eddy Privitera
Jan 8th, 11:05
Marco Galea: Ghax ma tibghatx email lil Konrad Mizzi halli jirrispondik.
carlos ellul
Jan 8th, 11:05
Oil producers are way more stable, Libya, Iran, Iraq....
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 10:43
PART II
tfittex metodi kif ghandu joghla? (Prova: http://www.euractiv.com/specialreport-waterpolicy/pricing-water-tricky-uses-extra-news-512919)
- Liem kumpanija se taccetta fixed pricing ghal 10 snin meta taf li l-prezz internazzjonali tal-gass jew fuel se jkompli joghla?
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 10:42
Fuq il-karta proposta tajba u ambizzjuza imma dawn id-dubji?
- Fejn se tinbena l-power station il-gdida?
- Kif se nibnu power station mill-gdid f'sena u nofs?
- Min se jhallas 376 miljun investiment fl-infrastruttura?
- Il-kumpanija li ssemmiet mill-Olanda - fejn il-prezz tal-elecctriku hu 22 cents, Malta hu 12 cents (Prova: http://www.energy.eu/)
- Kif se jorhos l-ilma meta l-unjoni Ewropea qed
charles flask
Jan 8th, 10:42
i am sorry but good proposals are being only put in play by PL .
Can anybody tell us when PN is going to unveil their proposals
Gonzi yesterday made an hour speech insisting that he and only him is the only person that can deliver whilst looking at his past he only managed to split his party and he is leading to split a whole nation .
PN please give us your proposalssssss !!!!!!!!
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 8th, 10:41
\Cont. The MALTESE nation is now demanding a change not in the policies and the values cause I believe that on those there is little or no distinction in between the parties, but rather on the levels of transparency and the attitude of the political players.
Pawlu Agius
Jan 8th, 10:40
THE USUAL GIMMICKS BY THE PL:
1) Any third party / private sector investing in the energy sector would need to use Enemalta's distribution network (so would be at a disadvantage compared to production costs)
2) Closing Delimara Phase 1 is near to impossible, giving that we are also closing Marsa Power station.
3) More wear and tear on BWSC diesel engines if operated on gas (+conversion costs!)
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:38
The cost of generation will drop to 9c6 per unit with savings of €187 million for Enemalta. - thanks to the inter-connector
Kimberly Farrugia
Jan 8th, 10:36
first plate out of a seven course meal .
Proposta serja li hawn min ga qed ittih rasu li ma rnexxilux johrog biha hu u nsomma issa daqt nisimghu li kient proposta taghhom .
proset PL is serjeta titlob li dak li twieghed twettqu .
A Vella
Jan 8th, 10:36
Are agreements with private companies already in place? Can we have the names of the private companies? Or is Konrad just hoping that they come along?
Simon Scerri
Jan 8th, 10:36
diga bdejna 2014 naghmlu hekk!1 2015 industria!!! gimmicks!! I do not trust Labour
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 11:26
As if whatever the PL says you won't wite the same bullocks!!!...get a life
Mr Albert Dimech
Jan 8th, 11:31
Gonzi qal li se jnaqqas it-taxxa għal 25% fl-ewwel sena, u ma għamiliex. PL qed jgħid meta se jitraħħsu, sempliċi, naraw jekk iwettaqx.
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 8th, 10:34
At list for once in The history of Maltese Politics someone has come in front of the electorate with a tangible business plan, which outlines technicalities and expected outcomes with all the rationale associated. This is the way we want to see things. Thanks to education also " a deal of credit to the PN" here the Maltese are no longer a nation of laggards and cwiec. \cont
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:48
like!
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 8th, 11:14
* At least
Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 10:34
Labour does not want to tell us where the gas is going to come from.
J Micallef
Jan 8th, 10:43
We'll eat more peas and beans...
M Grima
Jan 8th, 10:44
Possibili din hija il-problema li rajt. Taf kemm il-pajjiz madwarna ghandu il-gass? Fittex u tghallem forsi darb ohra ma s-saqsiex domandi vojta.
Mr Adrian Zahra
Jan 8th, 11:07
We have an interconnector project going on and to date we have no agreements in place for the purchase of electricity from a European Grid Supplier. The prime ministers words when he visited the excavation site to the interconnector " We HOPE to put in place the deals shortly". HOPE yeah HOPE on the lifeline of our economy.
Roberto Fenech
Jan 8th, 10:33
"The plan includes the building of a gas-fired power station by the private sector,"
Benefits from March 2014... So in one year, Dr Muscat plans to set the specificiations of a call for tender for the private industry, evaluate it, adjudicate it, sign all contracts and the new contractors will build it and becomes operational?
U dan jridna niehduh bis serjeta?
Eddy Privitera
Jan 8th, 10:55
Rolberto Fenech: La int imdorri bi gvern li dam 17 il-sena biex bena sptar, ma nohodiex bi kbira li int ma temminx li gvern dinamiku jista jwettaq l-affarijiet fi zmien ferm inqas !
Mark. Galea
Jan 8th, 10:33
VAT verzjoni 2
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 10:33
Oh, has anybody bothered to notice the last line of one of the slides? METER RENT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED! Food for thought!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:48
To be correct it says that it will not be increased.
Still, they have tons of ways to get the money from elsewhere.
Norbert Vella
Jan 8th, 10:53
@R. Azzopardi - Meter Rent will not be increased!
Anthony Attard
Jan 8th, 10:54
Yes, i NOTICED the last line of one if the slides, It reads, METER RENT WILL NOT BE INCREASED!!!!
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 11:25
Sorry fellers! I stand corrected. Qrajt hazin madoff!
Anthony Farrugia
Jan 8th, 10:33
Gimmicks for imzazen ! This gimmick should have been announced say on 7th March , that is with no right of reply.LOL
Personal responsibility Joseph Muscat = Early Election in 2015 (before Malta assumes presidency of EU, Muscat's dream and nightmare) .
Deja vu 1998. These people never learn, all smoke and mirrors, in Maltese "fixfixaw" !
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:43
From what someone else said it may be that only JM would resign from PM and leader and let some old dino get the top job.
I'd rather not see them in power in the first place. I think I'd rather have the AD than them!
Anthony Farrugia
Jan 8th, 10:54
Reuben D. Spiteri : As things stand, votes for AD are lost votes. I would rather have my vote count !
Eddy Privitera
Jan 8th, 10:57
Anthony Farrugia. Tidher li int kuntent tibqa thallas il-kontijiet tal-lum. naccertak li l-maggoranza kbira mhux kuntenta taqbel li dawn jorhsu is-sena d-diehla !
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 11:04
I know that. But I'd rather the election be between PN and AD than as it is. At least then we would have a chance of getting more realistic ideas. PL is just Fantasy Land and Joseph Muscat wants us to believe he has found the genie's lamp!
Anthony Farrugia
Jan 8th, 11:12
Eddy Privitera : If you use water and electricity in a responsible manner, you won't get hefty bills; I have all mod cons and yet my energy bills are always reasonable ! The people who waste get hefty bills !
BTW no mention of water tariffs; Anglu (remember him ?) Farrugia had said that water tariffs would not be touched.
Aaron Cassar
Jan 8th, 10:33
Well done pl and keep it up .thank you for helping the lower class and the middle class
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 10:32
this is a situation where I do not know if I should laugh or cry! lejber is trying to persuade me that he has found pandoras box! I am sorry joseph muscat , but this little shrimp is only attracting the low level of intelligentia. Those who are familiar with calculations arent bying it at all. your projects are identical to previous dreams vat removal to get cet. And we had to pay more , SAD!
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:40
BWSC was as sad as sad can be.
JM is accountable, Austin Gatt was not.
Victor Laiviera
Jan 8th, 10:41
If I were you, I would look up the meaning of "pandora's box" because you clearly have no idea of that it really means.
The rest of your comment is just as incomprehensible.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:42
Depends where you are at in the IQ department.
People who can see through this will just cry now and laugh if JM loses the election. (cry if he wins)
The others will laugh now and cry later when JM will come to then shrugging and saying that there are unexpected things he couldn't have forseen and therefore the whole thing is cancelled, or worse that they have to pay for his latest gaffe.
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 11:05
With the average IQ on the island being similar to a chimp on crack, I don't think it makes much difference Reuben.
Donna Parnis
Jan 8th, 11:29
@reuben for the last 25 years we have been paying for Gonzis Gaffs, no one in the PN party has ever shouldered their responsibility, BWSC ARRIVA MATER DEI. POWER STATION, to name but a few of the latest mistakes from Gonzi, And you want more of this, How sad unless you are getting a pay out from the PN.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 12:11
@Donna I'm not getting one cent out of it except that I'm better off without having the PL blowing up our country's finances to kingdom come.
If Muscat goes through with this and wrecks the country so much we have to ask for bail, the effects would probably go on for generations. Forget my or your lifetime, Gonzi or Muscat, this would last way longer than both of their political carriers combined
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 13:07
Bails....which are made because of debt....which has managed to reach astronomical levels...of which no sign can be really seen to justify such an increase around the island....and you blame this on the party who has been in opposition for pretty much 25 years....or that this cost will make that much difference to the billion we owe. Interesting.
Aaron Cassar
Jan 8th, 10:31
well done pl and keep it up
M Grima
Jan 8th, 10:30
PL - they plan, they promise, they deliver
PN - they promise, they plan and never deliver.
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 10:36
How do you know that labour will deliver?
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 10:37
PN - they promise, they plan wrongly, they don't deliver
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:39
I think you got the parties mixed up pal.
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:44
@R Azzopardi
Accountability has always been a fundamental value for JM. It has been like that in opposition and it will be like that in power.
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 11:28
@Matthew Gatt,
Has it really? Wow! Ask the cypriots and the inhabitans of Iceland!
Mr. Mario F
Jan 8th, 10:30
Who is paying these consultants to wave the PL flag? Have they been guaranteed a continuation of their consultancy job once the PL is elected?
Mr Mike Farrugia
Jan 8th, 10:50
Mela lanqas Muscat ma jemen fic cwiec maltin?
A J Rose
Jan 8th, 11:05
I wonder what the consultancy fee will be! Or is this one of the hidden costs?
Where will this station be built? Could it be on some reclaimed land?
Dreams... dreams
Charles Camilleri
Jan 8th, 10:30
Ara tal-PN kif taghthom rashom kemm qed jistaqsu!!
Ha nghidilkhom x'naghmlu issa meta jaghmel konfernza ta' l-ahbarijiet Dr.Gonzi fuq il-pjan omnipotenti li ghandu lest ghalina l-Maltin immorru nsaqsuh ukoll tridux??
( Bil-haqq nahseb li Wistinu nesa jorganizza pjan ghall-energija)
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:37
Mela int daqsekk makku li ma ssaqsix? Jien anke l-proposti tal-PN insaqsi kif ha jigu implimentati, ahseb u ara ta partit li ghandu r-rekord nazzjonali tal-frejjeg bhal PL!
jason cassar
Jan 8th, 10:38
prosit !! u veru tatom rashom ta !
Joann Bugeja
Jan 8th, 10:38
Min qed jippanikja Charles? Ahna ghadna d-dritt li nitkellmu bhalma ghandek id-dritt INT..u tinsix MIN gablek dan id-dritt ghax fi zmienkom lanqas gazzetta tal-PN ma stajna naqraw !
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 10:50
@Joann Bugeja
Today, 10:38
Gazzetta tista taqra veru, imma li ma kienx ghal Partit Laburista, lanqas xamma tal-vot ma kien ikollhok, ghax kien Gvern laburista li introduca l-vot lin-nisa!! Filwaqt li l-PN kien ivvota kontra!!! Mela tghallem qabel tparla. Biex ma nsemmiex l-introduzzjoni tas-Servizzi Socjali, Sahha b'xejn, Paga Minima, u qered il-faqar u l-injoranza!!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 11:09
L-injoranza hawn ghadha ta! Mhux minhabba nuqqas ta edukazzjoni imma minhabba n-nies li jimxu wara l-partiti b'mod ghami!
Tal-PL jibbrillaw l-iktar fiha din. Nahseb li jekk jerga jigi bir-repeater class bhal ma kien gie Sant 5 snin ilu wkoll tmorru ccapcpu!
Charles Camilleri
Jan 8th, 11:25
Minix Makku izda tinsiex li l-PN ilu 25 sena sena u xghamel fl-energija??? L-akbar froga li qatt seta ghmel u meta gie kritikat Austin Gatt gie moghlli fuq pedestall.
Meta tara dawn l-affarijiet wahdek tigi ghall-konkluzzjoni u fuq kollox partit irird ikun fil-Gvern sabiex tara x'jista jaghmel. Issa kellna lil PN u jekk ikun hemm il-PL meta jaghddu l-5 snin niznu dak li ghamel. Il-Pn taf xaghmel!
Tony Borg Borg
Jan 8th, 11:54
Sur Camilleri dan il-pjan kollu mibni fuq is-suppozizzjonijiet. Jidher kollu kemm hu nasba ghall voti biss.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:27
€166 million + €142 million + €68 million for this plant!
(if some of it is private, the consumer will still pay for it - private is not a charity)
Where are they going to get this money: €376 million?
(taxes of course, or an increase in the METER charge and WATER)
That's € 2,500 per family.
This is worse than the VAT/CET debacle
.
Philip Mamo
Jan 8th, 10:33
lies, read before you post...
Simon Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:07
5 Billion Debts well done PN. Ms Camenzuli
miriam mestre
Jan 8th, 11:37
Public private partnership.
The comment is so dumb that i wonder whether it is you who's dumb or you're thinking the reader is.
Mr. Mario F
Jan 8th, 10:27
Shouldn't the great Muscat now be given the chance at some sitting of the EU parliament to give a lesson to all other EU countries on how to reduce tariffs? And perhaps charge a commission for his ideas, and donate his commission to l-Istrina?
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:35
Yeah, then ALL of Europe can be like Cyprus!
Oh.... wait....
Chris Balzan
Jan 8th, 10:42
Other EU countries do not depend on HFO.
It is gonzipn and his clique that need a lesson on a clear energy plan for our country.
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 10:59
Why not Switzerland Ruben.....oh.... wait.....
Charles Cremona
Jan 8th, 10:27
What if the private sector declines to invest, what then? Besides, most countries in the EU have private companies running their electricity, gas and water and they compete with each other for customers yet tariffs are more expensive then here in Malta. We have to accept that energy prices are not cheap anymore unless you live in Saudi Arabia.
A Abela
Jan 8th, 10:44
For your info we have the second HIGHEST tariffs in europe
Charles Cremona
Jan 8th, 12:16
A.Abela: The reason we have high tariffs is because we have to desalinate sea water using reverse osmosis which uses hugh amounts of energy, thus making our water very expensive, no other country in the EU has to do this as far as I know. Whichever way you look at it water here in Malta will always be expensive to produce whatever the politicians tell you.
G. Ellul
Jan 8th, 10:27
Deputy Leader Louis Grech presented Labour's proposal:
THIS IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOUIS GRECH AND SIMON BUSUTTIL.
SIMON IS JUST A PREACHER BUT LOUIS IS A TECHNOCRAT AND AN ACHIEVER !!!!
Joann Bugeja
Jan 8th, 10:27
I'm left speechless! JM- now we can talk about millions ?! How will PL in govt fork out these millions ?!?!?!?! Besides , the present govt has already implemented alternative energy and the pipeline.Amazing !
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:35
READ
It's a public private partnership plus saving up money
The private must invest 300million
Simon Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:09
Joan why are you worried about MILLIONS. We have 5 BILLIONS in National DEBTS thanks to PN GOVERNMENT and his CLIQUE. Thanks FRANCO.
Neil Zammit
Jan 8th, 13:33
its ok to spen 80million on a new parliament but when it's on clean energy then we say NOOOO!!
M Grima
Jan 8th, 10:26
To all PN apologists.
The beef has been delivered and all you need is to munch it up.
Do it slowly because the PL manifesto is a 7 course meal.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:32
Munching up a tax of €376 million
ie € 2,500 on every family in Malta
will really take a lot of time.
Work it out for yourself from the figures given above.
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R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 10:34
is it now? the starter has already made me vomit!
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 10:38
One of the best comments so far!! Bhalissa l-apologoisti mqabbda u orkestrati minn Tal-Pieta qeghdin f'fernezija u paniku shih! Lanqas jafu x'laqathom! And this is just the beginning, there are more doable and feasible proposals in the PL manifesto I'm sure, and the best is yet to come!!!! Clearly, PL is extremely organised, very prepared and technically proficient. Our nation deserves this.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jan 8th, 10:41
Right a 7 course meal! Heavy on the stomach and against all best advice by medical practice. It usually is very expensive gourmet too!
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 11:06
@Mr Joe Micallef
Today, 10:41
Well Joe, with presently €5 billion in debt, €700 million Enemalta debt, €23 million phantom consultancies , 80,000 risk of poverty, illiteracy plummeting, I would suspect that all this during bad governance by GonziPN in 25 yrs would augur severe constinmation, stomach ulcer and indigestion! Unless, heqq ma tkunx tal-qalba u jipprovdulek xi Alka-Selzer
Neil Zammit
Jan 8th, 13:40
mary - 376 million euros for CLEAN ENERGY!!! instead of 80 million for a new parliament....or the millions spent on the heavy fuel oil powerstation....so Clean energy is bad but the others are good?? if so your priorities are all messed up
Philip Mamo
Jan 8th, 10:26
Please before you post your idiotic comments, read carefully what is being reported, lots of your questions will be answered by simply reading; and, people wanted to know HOW the PL will reduce tarrifs, and there you go, as PL said, when the election campaign will begin he will unveil it, and so he did.
Bdw... from where did PN get money for the BWSC comedy plant?! enough said....
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:25
Check for yourselves electricity tariffs in Holland are 22c per unit,
almost double Malta's 12c
(after the 25% eco-reduction on the first 2,000 units that covers 95% of families).
www.energy.eu
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Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 10:24
If Muscat can guarantee political stability in the area of gas origin and transportation - Russia & Ukraine - then all well and good.
If not, this project is a waste of time and money.
Recent developments in Russia have shown us the contrary.
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 10:56
Of course they have stability! they have a tyrant who controls the whole country but who nobody, unlike other nation, will dare attack. Can't get any more stable than that. But, that aside, tell me about the stability within the EU....
Joe Falzon
Jan 8th, 10:22
is this really what they have in the basket? an energy plan without water and alternative energy? all we heard is the same mambo jambo which we've heard through the past 3 years. Keep this in mind, if we don't have the necessary financial assistance from the EU to built the gas pipeline, all of the above is nonsense and not doable.
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:34
your comment is laughable.
Just read the article.
Alternative energy to shift from wind to solar - quite obvious!
water tariffs to be reduced by 5%
pipeline funds were confirmed yday. Nevertheless it will take years to build.
Joe Falzon
Jan 8th, 11:05
In the contrary, your rsponse is ridiculous:
What are they going to do on solar then? who is investing, how much, where?
Water tariffs: every one in Europe and the World are seeing proposals how to raise water tariffs when the PL just promises everything to everyone.
You said it yourself. The pipeline will take years so the distribution will either lacks sustainability and fprice fluctuation
Mark. Galea
Jan 8th, 10:22
Fejn ser tinbena l-power station gdida?
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:33
Flok tal-Marsa qalu. In the meantime noqodu bla dawl sa ma tinbena l-powerplant tal fantazija ta joseph.
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 10:42
Jekk ikun possibli quddiem id dar tieghek, fil parapett ghax is South ta' Malta issa full up!!
Chris Balzan
Jan 8th, 10:55
Aqra bully:
''The plan sees the replacement of the old Delimara plant with a new gas-powered power station funded by the private sector.''
A J Rose
Jan 8th, 11:14
How about on some reclaimed land.
M Grima
Jan 8th, 10:21
The PL is simply a breath of fresh air. They have promised and in time Dr. Muscat will deliver. Others have promised and delivered zilch. Roll on PL, the electorate is eager to usher you in.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:32
Really? I'm already prepared to usher him OUT. This will be a monumental failure if he ever decides to go through with it, and then WE'd have to shoulder the burden AGAIN.
Breath of fresh air.... I'd rather stick my mouth to a truck's exhaust pipe!
Carmelo Sammut
Jan 8th, 10:21
Dik serjeta
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:21
BOMBA TA'
376 MILJUN EWRO
LI JFISSRU TAXXA TA'
€ 2,500 FUQ KULL FAMILJA MALTIJA.
ĦALLINA JOSEPH!
DIN AGĦAR MINN TAL-VAT.
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Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:28
READ:
The plan includes the building of a gas-fired power station by the private sector,
The proposal is based on a shift to gas from heavy fuel oil at the power stations and a public private partnership for the building of new generation facilities.
The cost of generation will drop to 9c6 per unit with savings of €187 million for Enemalta.
R. Gauci
Jan 8th, 10:29
Int tappertjeni lill-partit li ghabba lill-poplu b'6,000,000,000 ewro dejn fuq investiment ta' 300 miljun qed titkaza? U dawn fl-ahhar mill-ahhar se jgawdi minnhom il-poplu kemm f'rohs fil-kontijiet u f'arja aktar nadifa ghalhekk innaqqsu mill-ispejjez tas-sahha.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 11:17
Private always charges for its costs.
All its expenditure will have to be made up by us consumers.
Simple.
They're certainly not a charity.
.
Joe Vella
Jan 8th, 10:21
What will happen to the permanent Gas link to the Continent? Are we saying Bye, Bye to this option for the sake of some short time gain at the expense of long term gain? And who will be paying then?
anthony sultana
Jan 8th, 10:19
From this comments I see that the PN supporters are panicking.Just calm dawn and wish us luck.
Robert pullicino
Jan 8th, 10:28
Panicking ??!!! the gap between the two parties is narrowing already !
Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 10:30
Panicking about a gimmick?
Tell us Anthony, where the source of gas will come from and if the source it is even remotely safe and reliable.
Do your research and you will understand that no one is panicking.
Anthony Attard
Jan 8th, 10:56
@ Kurt Abela
Where do you think all the gas already consumed in our country is coming from?
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 10:19
I cannot believe how gullible certain people are. Back in 1996, Alfred Sant said that he would remove VAT. he never said that cash registers would be removed too but the labourites automatically assumed that the cash register would be scrapped too. Now he's promising cuts in POWER tariffs (i.e. ELECTRICITY). Water tariffs haven't been mentioned so far. Can't you see where the catch lies?
Joann Bugeja
Jan 8th, 10:30
only 5%!!
M Grima
Jan 8th, 10:19
This is how the Pl does politcs. They plan, they promise and finally if the electorate accepts it, they deliver. People might be asking form where shall they find the funds to finance this project. Well, the PN found €80 million to build a roofless theater, they found a few more millions to build a bridge leading to nowhere, they squandered millions in the overshoot of building Mater Dei.
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 10:18
So, will a terminal from Freeport be removed to cater for the daily shipments? If not, where will the new terminal be constructed given the ecological sensitivity of the area? And will there be suitable provision for leakages given the proximity to residential area? Has KEMA already been promised the contract?
Carlo Cassar
Jan 8th, 10:18
Oh you seem to be all experts. Labour has done a proper study backed by professionals in the energy sector so don't try to undermine this one also. Now you cannot say there are no proposals. It is the PN who have no alternative options either than increasing the bills. They were there for 25 years and the only solution for them was the most expensive one - A power station working with oil.
fred sammut
Jan 8th, 10:16
mmmm interessanti u cara abjad fuq l iswed
Oliver Grech
Jan 8th, 10:29
Jekk hi cara ghalik. Ghidli ezatt kemm ser nifranka jiena. Ghax they only mentioned an average or a maximum...ghax l anqas dik ghadni ma fhimt...min qal 25% u min qal 35%.
A Zammit
Jan 8th, 10:16
Who will be paying the required 376 Million Euros?
Stephen Mangion
Jan 8th, 10:16
A much awaited Labour Party bang. Just what the country needs!! A serious and accountable administration
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 10:14
AND WATER PRICES???? Of course PL would mention nothing because they WILL HAVE to increase them, read here:
http://www.euractiv.com/specialreport-waterpolicy/pricing-water-tricky-uses-extra-news-512919
fred sammut
Jan 8th, 10:18
marco tikrittakx biss ghax ha tibqa bl istess mentalita........ water is produced by electricity so if elect goes down .......
Ghall inqas il PL ha jrahhas il PN gholla...... issa iddeciedi inti
John Attard
Jan 8th, 10:19
By 5%. qal diga b'kemm. U kif se tinhadem is somma ukoll.
Philip Mamo
Jan 8th, 10:21
if you saw past debates, PL spokesman said that water price will decrease as water production is done mainly with the use of electricity.
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 10:14
Geez! These PN moaners are unbelievable! Kif , Meta u Kemm qed jigi spjegat fid-dettal! Imma tal-Partit Nazzjonalista ma jitghallmu qatt? Politika skaduta tal-passat! Politika qadima, ghajjiena u perikoluza! Allavolja qed jigi spjegat, xorta tridu tmadru? Kif GonziPN ser irahhas? B'kemm? Meta SB(tal-grocer) ser jipproponi xi haga li verament issir? SmartCity? Whiterocks? 35% reduced to 25% tax?
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:14
MUSCAT TO ASSUME PERSONAL RESPONSABILITIES - accountability!
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 10:26
iss qed tara, la jghaffeg il-froga ul-proposta tfalli jirrezenja, imma l-hsara tkun saret
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 8th, 10:14
BANG goes the dream of lowered tariffs as soon as the LP is elected at the next general election!
Benefits would only start,hopefully, in March 2014, that is a full year before the new power station is even completed and if everything goes according to plan and after the taxpayer forks out 376 million euro.
Pull the other leg, please, it has bells on it similar to those on a jester's hat.
M Grima
Jan 8th, 10:37
Your hastiness to join the moaners has got the better of you. If you read carefully it would be the private investors who would fork out the €376 million. Got it?
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 8th, 11:02
@ M Grima
And how are they going to get these private investors? and which private investor is going to guarantee pricing for 10 years?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 8th, 11:46
@M Grima
Those "private investors" are pure speculations. It will ALWAYS be the taxpayers who will have to underscore those 376 million euro. No mistake about it.
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 13:51
@Francis Saliba M.D.
Today, 11:46
Dott, jiddispjacini, imma mintiex genwin fl-argument tieghek. Mela sewwa, ghax hareg jippoppa sidru u jiftahar l-guru ta' l-ekonomija Tonio Fenech fuq SPV ghal Progett tal-Belt, Teatru bla Saqaf hemmhekk ma lissintx imqar mistoqsija wahda mnejn gejjin, jekk hux ser jispicca t-taxpayer ihallas ghal progett inutli u bla bzonn, u issa ghogbok tqajjem tispekula??
M Grima
Jan 8th, 14:04
@ Francis Saliba & Anthony Scicluna
We have had private investing in flowering our roundabouts and you are telling us that no investors would be forthcoming for this project. Well, even it there isn't (and I can assure you that there are) these €376 million are still peanuts to the €6 billion which your beloved Dr. Gonzi has raked up.
Edward Demicoli
Jan 8th, 10:13
"Enemalta would enter into a power purchase agreement with the investors of the new power station, fixing the price of energy for 10 years." Strange how all the other countries in the world never thought of this!!! Price of energy has been the biggest problem facing all the leaders of all the nations of the world but it seems that Dr Muscat knows the answer. Good luck with that!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:28
Il-finanzi ha jgibhom billi jaghti pariri lill-pajjizi bhal ma ghamel ghal Cipru! Wara dik zgur kulhadd jafdah!
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 15:07
@Reuben D. Spiteri
Today, 10:28
Mela ahseb u ara kemm ser jafdaw lil Lawrence Gonzi wara li farrak Partit, farrak Pajjiz, u ultimament ghamel froga Braziljana b'investiment ta' 4 impjegati, li wara xi ftit xhur zarmat!!!! Biex ma nsemmiex il-hrafa ta' 20,000 impjieg gdid u SmartCity!!! Lanqas qed tissemma mkien, tahbuwha qeghdin fil-paniku li qabadkhom!!
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 10:12
Prosit. Pajjizi ohra hekk jahdmu jigifieri jinvesti s-settur privat. Issa ma noqoghdux nippruvaw nghawgu t-tajjeb.
Mr B Vella
Jan 8th, 10:11
Well Done Labour.You deserve our vote.Keep it up!
Oliver Grech
Jan 8th, 10:09
And btw is it 25% or 35%...jew qed ihawdu bhas- soltu
Joseph Galea
Jan 8th, 10:15
Jekk int inteligenti u taf taqra sew tkun taf ir-risposta!
James Grech
Jan 8th, 10:19
Lanqas biss pacenzja taqra l artiklu m' ghandek? Ahseb w ara kemm int lest li tagharbel u tifhem il proposta, sur Grech. Ahjar tiftah ftit mohhok u taccetta li hemm politici li ghandhom l energija w ir responsabilta biex ibbidlu l affarijiet.
Oliver Grech
Jan 8th, 10:33
Nassigurak li l- artiklu qrajtu sew u qed naghrbel il- proposta sew...u andi hafna mistoqsijiet mhux imwiegba, nista nassigurak.
U nerga ntenn...jekk ma jispjegawx min ser jibbenefika min 35% u min 25%...ghalija il- haga tibqa mhux cara. Jew forsi ghadhom ma jafux ezatt min ser jibbenefika b' kemm.
A Bezzina
Jan 8th, 10:09
"Labour leader Joseph Muscat said that he would, as prime minister, assume personal responsibility for the implementation of the plan" ...
In other words, if it fails, the best case scenario is that he personally resigns. Since it is him and not the party that is assuming responsibility, Labour will remain in government, and YOU, the consumer, will still have to pay up!! Can't be trusted ...
John Borg
Jan 8th, 10:16
Exactly. Spot on
Oliver Grech
Jan 8th, 10:09
JM said "low consumers could save as much as 35% under this plan". Can you quantify who the low consumers are? Can you give us an example of how much normal families and the industry would save?
With all due respect, the low consumers wouldn't generally generate the economy and create jobs.
Mary Rose Grech
Jan 8th, 10:07
Grazzi Dr Muscat
M Abdilla
Jan 8th, 10:07
I can't believe people were so shallow as to expect that they would get their decreased tariffs as soon as Labour get elected. That is simply impossible and I felt it was obvious that there were reforms to be made. The proposal is very well structured and organised, and gives us a comprehensive and feasible plan, whilst at the same time Muscat shows a true representation of accountability!
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 11:29
The Labour stated that ...so you're saying we should not believe them right?
Mario Piscopo
Jan 8th, 10:07
Proposta serja u kredibli .
Dr Gonzi mohhu biex jikkritika il proposti ta haddiehor imma sall bierah stess ghadu ma qalilna xejn u mhux li jghidilna ili jwettaqom limportanti ghax lelezzjoni li ghaddiet weghdi qalilna hafna u fatti ma sar bazikament xejn .
Prosit PL ghax tidhru li ghamiltu il homework taghkom sew biex tmexxu dall p[ajjiz kif suppost
*Joseph Brincat
Jan 8th, 10:06
Labour promises 25% power tariffs cut
THIS IS A GOOD PIECE OF BEEF
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:13
you mean beef pie in the sky ux??
A Cachia
Jan 8th, 10:06
I still need to read the small print but looks like PL have started their campaign with a bang!
Chris Balzan
Jan 8th, 10:05
Finally, a clear Energy Plan for our country!
Alfred Falzon
Jan 8th, 21:19
Not yet, I am afraid it is still nebulous as certain aspects of it need to be examined in the light of shifting markets in the oil and gas industries.
aaf
anthony sultana
Jan 8th, 10:05
You did'nt say nothing about the vouchers, because if you are going to remove the vouchers ,then you are talking in the air,and you are making a fool of yourself.
James Grech
Jan 8th, 10:17
which vouchers? the €2 ones?
Oliver Grech
Jan 8th, 10:04
Can we know who are the private investors? Or is that still secret? We need to know as I am sure no one would do it free of charge.
I am asking this question because there are concerns about this. Have a look at this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2258695/Phil-Bentley-As-families-face-rising-bills-energy-chief-walking-away-13m.html
Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 10:03
Most of Europe's gas supply is coming through Russia.
Looking at Russia's recent political behaviour, we will expect huge increases in gas prices, thus rendering Muscats proposal as obsolete within a few years.
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 10:16
Mela xi nghidu ghaz zejt? Insejt meta kien darba u nofs aktar mill prezz tal-lum ftit zmien ilu? Apparti li jhammeg hafna aktar.
G curmi
Jan 8th, 10:18
Nahseb Konrad Mizzi ma jafx x'inhu jaghmel hux Karl Abela????
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 10:35
Wrong - Russian is solely dependent on energy. Russia would be losing all it has got if were to take that approach, especially since countries like the US are quickly growing in the export business; and end up with massive problems, something which Putin will do his utmost to avoid since he is already extremely unpopular in the country.
Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 10:59
Robert you just proved my point except that you got a wrong conclusion.
Putin will just sell to China and Iran. They way things are going in Russia the latter seems increasingly evident.
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 11:14
You proved to me that I will never trust you with business matters. So, according to you, you would go for the China and Iran market and just do away with the most important market on the globe; you know, the on that made China of today what it is. Laughable!
Charles Abela
Jan 8th, 10:03
The amount in price reduction in itself is definitely interesting. But what's even more interesting is the preparation and long-term planning process that the PL has adopted, one that is clear, detailed and concretely implementable. This is conducive of party which has political maturity and a strong commitment to change.
Jay Oatmon
Jan 8th, 10:02
This is election time and all parties will propose fine sounding ideas and money saving schemes for the public.
However once in power the politicians will then explain that - either Malta's finances or the world economic situation, is worse than they thought, and so their program has to be modified, delayed or cancelled.
Anyone who believes election promises is either an optimist or a gambler.
George Bezzina
Jan 8th, 10:02
Kompli ghaffeg.
Joe Sammut
Jan 8th, 10:02
Min se jhallas id-dejn tal-Enemalta Malta taghna Lkoll bid-dejn b’kollox.
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:02
mela r-rohs tad-dawl mhux mil-11 ta Marzu 2012 issa. Alla biss jaf meta jkun lest dan is-suppost progett...il-prezz taz-zejt jilhaq jerga jorhos
Giovann Attard
Jan 8th, 13:59
Trid tistenna ftit Sur Spiteri. Billi tistenna sentejn! ghal fejn 25 sena x'inhuma?! Mill-1987 'l hawn il-kontijiet tad-dawl dejjem gholew hux taht Gvern tal-PN. Issa stenna sentejn u johrsu, Sur Mark PN Spiteri!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:00
All I see are millions and millions. Where will these come from? Private sector? Who would invest that amount?
We need names to accompany the figures Joseph, not simple numbers on a spreadsheet.
How would your government cope with a loss of 25% income from utility rates?
Are there and subsides to this?
Who is guaranteeing a fixed price for 10 years?
Do you have the names of the investors?
Simon Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:15
Reuben Bi proposta wahda qatalkom nifiskom IL PL. isthu tikkumentaw ghandkom partit imfarrak fit tlieta , keccejtu 3 min taghkom. ibqa cert li tbiddel fehmtek jekk il poplu jaghti cans lil dan il partit dinamiku. isma minni ivvota PL u tkun parti mill istorja.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 13:00
U tinkwetawx kollha ha tkunu parti mill-istorja tivvutaw lil min tivvutaw.
Fuq liema naha ta' l-istorja ha nkunu... Joseph fil-qiegh ha jispicca.
M Gatt
Jan 8th, 09:58
Given the fact the foreign consultants have said its possible, I don't see why it can't happen! Also, the conversion expenses are because of GonziPN's ras iebsa to go with heavy fuel oil!
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 10:16
X'foreign consultants???
Foreign consultant li gabu hu ta' kumpanija li se tmexxi l-progett tghid mhux se jigi jghidlek li l-progett se jkun falliment!
susan matrenza
Jan 8th, 09:58
din hi is serjeta - twieghed u twettaq
dr gonzi nahseb ghandek ftit x titghallem min dal leader ghax ghall weghdi champion imma biex twettaq ghadek lura .
Dr Muscat mill oppozizjoni wieghed u issa qed jasal . Tmexxija serja titlob proposti serji u dawn huma il proposti . haddiehor ghadu ha jibda il linji gwida
Herbert Falzon
Jan 8th, 10:09
Xi twettaq s issa? Int f sensik? Kullma amel s issa hi power point presentation.
Alan Abela
Jan 8th, 10:09
Sissa wieghed biss susan, fin 96 il labour wieghed u ma wetaqx. Fl 2004 qal partnership. Fl 2010 qalilna naghmlu bhal cipru. Allahares smajna min JM
Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 10:11
S'issa paroli biss.
C Cassar
Jan 8th, 09:57
Any cuts will be offset by a rise in tax.
daniel farrugia
Jan 8th, 10:12
why ?? if enemalta would save 187 million euros a year????
Omar Xuereb
Jan 8th, 09:56
Good Proposal... Well done Labour.
Joe Sammut
Jan 8th, 10:03
Are you an engineer or an economist?
Daniel Genovese
Jan 8th, 10:15
Ma naħsibx li għandek tkun xi Inġinier biex tgħid li din il-proposta hija tajba meta taf li ser jorħos il-kont li tirċievi fuq id-dawl u l-ilma!
Mario Scicluna
Jan 8th, 10:17
Joe Sammut
Today, 10:03
I am, are you?
Emanuel Said
Jan 8th, 09:55
This seems tangible and feasible... and there are timelines with the promise. Better than promising a tax cut for God knows when... if ever.
Anthony Arpa
Jan 8th, 09:55
Mela Alla biss jaf meta se nibdew ingawdu ir-rohs fil kontijiet tad dawl, biex ghad irried issier dan kollhu .
Din nahseb gejja bhall weghda li dawk li xtraw il karozzi godda se jinathom lura dawk il flus li halsu zejda. Li skont JM dawn huma flus misruqa min but il poplu ... Il poplu kien qed jahseb li mit 7 ta Marzu se jibda jinghata ir-rohs fil kontijiet tad Dawl u ta l-ilma.
daniel farrugia
Jan 8th, 10:03
ghandek meta u l-labour qatt ma qal li il-kontijiet ha jorhsu mil-ghada tal elezjoni!
SILVIO SEISUN
Jan 8th, 10:08
INT IJLEK 25 SENA THALLAS KOLLOX BL OLI MINTIEX KAPACI TISTENNA SA MARZU TA SENA OHRA
Andre' Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:23
Sur Arpa, id-dinja ma saritx mill-ewwel...suppost taf lil -PN ilu 25 sena iwieghed u jwieghed u ma jwettaqx. Taf x'qed jistenna l-poplu mid-9 ta' Marzu....li ndawwru l-pagna bi gvern gdid u arja gdida fil-pajjiz. Imbaghad ikollna t-twettiq ta' hafna proposti, fosthom rohs fit-tariffi, mela le.
Mhux ha jerga jkollna prim ministru li jahtaf €500 ghal gewwa butu u ma tahomx lura. Serrah rasek!
Daniel Galea
Jan 8th, 09:55
Is tthe 25% reduction for the total bill of water and electricity consumtion and the meter charges?
miriam mestre
Jan 8th, 11:40
25% dawl
5% ilma
meter rent not increased
G Pace
Jan 8th, 09:55
Issa nistenna lil gonzipn jajdilna x se jamel hu fuq d dawl......prosit u Grazzi Joseph
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 09:55
What are your proposals Simon and Gonzi?
I followed their speeches and they referred to their manifesto several times whilst never mentioning a proposal except that they will continue on the same tracks.
What will you propose? Another Arriva or another BWSC????
Giovann Attard
Jan 8th, 14:02
well said Mr. Matt! Gonzi PAROLE PAROLE PAROLE u wikkiena bl-aghar power station ta' kull zmien! Veru Gvern l-ahhar grad!!
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 09:55
Check for yourselves electricity tariffs in Holland are 22c per unit, almost double Malta's 12c (after the 25% eco-reduction on the first 2,000 units that covers 95% of families).
www.energy.eu
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M. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:01
Mary, dejjem tista thalli l aircondition mixghul apposta meta jorhsu l kontijiet. B Hekk tibqa thallas bl gholi jekk kuntenta. It's a free market my dear
Eve Axiaq
Jan 8th, 10:19
Mary ikkompara l pagi wkoll f'dal kaz.
Byron Camilleri
Jan 8th, 09:54
Concrete and feasible proposals.
Simply excellent.
Joe Vella
Jan 8th, 09:54
So bye, bye to a fix Gas Pipeline to Europe. Is this not a kiss good bye to one time having gas delivered to households as it is done to the most of residents on the Continental. Aren't we saying good bye to Millions of Euros from the EU to have a permanent gas pipeline with Europe? If not, then why would private investors Millions in gas supply infrastructure?
G Pace
Jan 8th, 09:54
Issa nistenna lil gonzipn jajdilna x se jamel hu fuq d dawl......prosit u Grazzi Joseph
C Falzon
Jan 8th, 09:53
Look at the supporters Partit Negattiv x jeqirdu.....the LP did his homework properly and what JM is promising can be achieved. Prosit.
G Caruana
Jan 8th, 12:33
Actually I'm quite happy this gimmick will send labour back into opposition.
John Lusignan
Jan 8th, 09:52
Are the calculations based on today's gas prices and what happens when the price of gas goes up? So its a 25% discount for the next 5 years on today's rates? Detail please not pie in the sky?! Also how does labour know that the necessary permits will be issued within their timelines......or is the plan to circumvent the planning authority?
daniel farrugia
Jan 8th, 10:05
it does not make any difference! sky ??? you have all the details do not worry!
Luca Barbara
Jan 8th, 09:52
WELL DONE GUYS!!! This is only the first day.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 09:52
€166 million + €142 million + €68 million for this plant!
Where are they going to get this money: €376 million?
That's € 2,500 per family.
Ħalluna!
.
C BONDIN
Jan 8th, 09:58
Mary il flus biex jirranga l belt (swar) and the new parlament min fejn Gabhom Dr Gonzi. Il 500euros per week min fejn gabhom Dr. Gonzi. ??? Tista tirrispondini Mary pls
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:00
L-investiment jigi mill-privat
"The cost of generation will drop to 9c6 per unit with savings of €187 million for Enemalta."
M. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:02
From the above article:
"The cost of generation will drop to 9c6 per unit with savings of €187 million for Enemalta."
It helps when you read the article in full. I learned this back in Primary
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:05
From the private sector they said....tajjeb ukoll
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:07
matthew Gatt u min qallek li l-privat se jaccetta ???
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:11
Bondin tas-swar kienet biex igawdi is-settur turistiku. U dan jidher fir-rekords tat-turisti li jigu hawn Malta kull sena u dejjem jizdiedu!
Tal-500 raw li kienet zbaljata u fil-fatt nehhewha f'kaz li ghadek ma ndunajtx ta. Hadd ma kien ha pjacir biha imma issa ghaddiet. Ghalija ahjar jiehu 500 weekly milli jaghmel fjask bhal ma gej ta JM.
A Vella
Jan 8th, 10:14
Mathew Gatt, the reduced "cost of generation will drop to 9c6 per unit with savings of €187 million for Enemalta." will be passed on to the consumer, from where the private sector will get its investment + profit back is unexplainable.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:24
If it's private, the private sector ALWAYS charges the consumer for all its costs, including the capital expenditure.
So, ċikku briku.
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B Grech
Jan 8th, 09:52
Labour clearly have learnt from its past, and is finally offering a clear alternative from the sorry state we are in at the moment.
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 09:57
how can people be so gullible !!
daniel farrugia
Jan 8th, 09:52
@ pn apologists
at least read the whole proposal before saying that it will not work! How can you say that it will not work when you did not even know anything about the studies the pl carried out!
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 10:03
Until very recently, the PL ridiculed the PN for carrying out studies on everything. Now PL carrired out a study and you'r ready to swallow it hook, line and sinker. U iva, laburist trid tkun. tibla r-ross bil-labra.
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 10:41
'U iva, laburist trid tkun. tibla r-ross bil-labra. but of course, if you are ready to swallow the hook of studies carried out by PN, usually at a very expensive expensive cost, to come up with some ridiculous findings. One springs to mind - the wide roads of Malta. Oh! one labour one also comes to mind, that of collecting rainwater but was scrapped cause it was 'lejber work'...sewwa qal - cwiec!
A Vella
Jan 8th, 09:52
Irony...Labour in opposition gambling everything on...a foreign consultant's plan.
Joseph, foreign consultants are needed, actually they are vital to remain competitive, so stop saying you won't be using them.
Joe Sammut
Jan 8th, 09:51
Ok this hot air balloon works around a gas operated PS .
As far as I know this government is for the same option under the proviso that the EU will help in supplying a gas pipeline from mainland Europe.
Both parties are on equal footing on gas.
What worries me is what shall we do with the Enemalta workers who’s company would just purchase the energy from this private energy provider .
T Mifsud
Jan 8th, 09:51
I want to know if Labour will retain the INCOME TAX REDUCTION TO 25%. It is important to know now!
Martin Attard
Jan 8th, 09:51
you got the answer to what you were demanding dear partisan pn supporters...
i guess a real floater will take this one really seriously...
good move pl... guess there are some reliable intelligent NEW faces in the PL aswell, goodluck Konrad
M Borg
Jan 8th, 09:50
Dec 2012
.UK private energy worse then us as of now
When it comes to trust, the energy industry has just dropped to an all time low. More than half (54%) of the public now say they don’t trust energy companies, putting them second only to car salesmen in the low trust stakes.
It’s no surprise that people feel like that when you look in more depth at the recent price rises.
Mark Portelli
Jan 8th, 09:50
Proposing tariffs for 2014 when;
1. We have no idea what the price of oil would be. (if some new war breaks out prices will shoot and the PL energy policy would come to its knees)
2. Lowering tariffs before having completed investments..... very wise.
Same old gimmicks. Irresponsible plans indeed.
Simon Micallef
Jan 8th, 11:22
Mark irresponsible who put the debt level to 5 Billion Euros. for a non working powerstation BWSC, a new un wanted parlament, a theatre without a roof and so one
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 09:50
Electricity will go down by 25% ... ok let's believe that
and WATER will go up by 25%? will it go up to compensate this? Why is water ignroed in this press conference?
Because PL kniw it's a MUST, an obbligation by the EU to increase water prices
Kyle Bonnici
Jan 8th, 10:37
.... Read the title of the article again sir, so you won't embarrass yourself again next time.
Michael Campbell
Jan 8th, 09:49
Plausible.
Wind shouldn't be dismissed though.
I wasn't around when Sant was running the show, but if this is a rehash of his, its still very do-able.
A fixed submarine pipeline will still be more environmentally friendly in the long run.
Eni has such pipeline twix Tunisia & Sicily.
Im certainly encouraged.
K. Vella
Jan 8th, 09:48
This is a dangerous game Labour is playing.....
How will this be financed!?!? Is this already happening in stages to source and monitor then the market fuel costs to alternate for the most efficient effective source!??
Good luck Malta we are heading for some tough time...this is the same proposed fiasco to replace the VAT!!!
daniel farrugia
Jan 8th, 09:55
you will have all the answers do not worry .... just listen to the proposal first!
Emanuel Said
Jan 8th, 09:57
Seems to me financing is as feasible as the Valletta Gate project... or isn't that feasible?
Matthew Gatt
Jan 8th, 10:04
The proposal is based on a shift to gas from heavy fuel oil at the power stations and a public private partnership for the building of new generation facilities.
Marco Galea
Jan 8th, 09:48
the construction of a new plant at €166 million and the BWSC conversion estimated at €68 million. The gas supply infrastructure was estimated to cost €142 million. ------- and all these will be paid by the private company? or accumulated as FOREIGN debt by the country?
and what will happen to Enemalta and its people? Enemalta will be buying oil, so its workers arent needed anymore
N. Aquilina
Jan 8th, 12:11
Did you bother to read the article Mr. Galea?
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 09:47
"Enemalta WOULD enter into a power purchase agreement with the investors of the new power station, fixing the price of energy for 10 years".
Wishful thinking !!!
Wenzu Cole
Jan 8th, 09:47
This is what us voters want to see, serious proposals based on sound research that are reflected in numbers that we all can relate to. Not the usual political rhetoric - kollox fis sod fil faccata izda zarmat min gewwa.
V. Cauchi
Jan 8th, 09:46
Good ideas but given the chance of regional cooperation within the EU, would it be possible to build a gas plant in Sicily and feed in the supply through the connector cable? This would save a gas supply infrastructure of €142 million.
A Abela
Jan 8th, 09:45
The alternative is another PN government and higher energy tarrifs
jason cassar
Jan 8th, 09:45
bis sens....l ahhar musmar fit tebut tal PN !
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 8th, 09:45
Aha price fixing again. Same old Labour especially considering that gas prices are going to go even higher. Poor quality stuff is on the agenda again
Anthony Scicluna
Jan 8th, 09:43
How will MLP rope in the private sector to fund the Eu. 376m investment? One year to tender and build this project? Not terribly realistic. What of gas price fluctuations considering that gas is expensive too? What of the retraining of engineers? What of the inefficiencies of Enemalta? What do you mean of an AVERAGE of 25%? That does not mean everyone saves 25%
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 09:43
This time PL planned it and calculated it professionally and thoroughly.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 10:04
Stenna ha naraw x'jghidu l-esperti. Mela int kull ma jghidulek temmnu bla ma toghmodu?
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 10:05
I wouldn't say that. They planned it in a fancy manner with lots of complicated words used to woo the ignorant.
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 10:43
@ R. Azzoppardi.
so you must have been too!
Matthew Grima
Jan 8th, 12:46
R. Azzopardi, for someone who thinks so highly of himself, you've only offered to put down others rather than showing us how intelligent you are.
You are what is wrong with our country's politics, whoever doesn't agree with you (even though you have no backing arguments) is an idiot.
Paul Micallef
Jan 8th, 09:43
That is what i call proposals, yes i BELIVE in you and i will vote for you.
Thank you JOSEPH thank you you and your party, you have done your homework well.
G Caruana
Jan 8th, 11:59
Pity you didn't do your homework at all :)
Joe Falzon
Jan 8th, 09:41
what's new about these proposals? We've already heard all of the above and the PN has already pointed out that these proposals could only be done through financing from the EU. How can the PL be so arrogant in stating that the tariffs will go down as from 2014. It seems that they are still living in the seventh heaven and not down to earth.
Charles Camilleri
Jan 8th, 09:51
Mr. Falzon give me a break!
Joseph Tabone
Jan 8th, 09:41
Which prices will go up to make up for this!!!!
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 09:54
Do you know about efficiency, cost savings, etc which will be transferred to consumers? Please can you give us your detailed version of how other things will go up because of these proposals? If you are hurt so much to hear such concrete proposals you should opt out for any reduction.
Adrian Gouder
Jan 8th, 09:40
Interesting,
What will happen to the power station's employees, are they to be adsorbed into the new power station?
Can the public sector company just pack up and leave if they realise it is not viable?
Does the government have to guarantee that the power station will be used for 5, 10 20 years? Are the prices guaraneteed for that period of time, or is there some sort of fore-calculable formula?
Mark Bord
Jan 8th, 09:40
Isn't most of this VERY similar to what PN has been saying is in the pipeline?
Nothing new...
Charles Camilleri
Jan 8th, 09:53
Keep on reading Mr.Bond, the pipeline was proposed but will not be done! and by the way Gonzi could have done it these 5 years
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 09:57
Which pipeline? After 25 years we are stuck with the Marsa Powerstation and with a non-working BWSC gaffe station which should work on HFO. At least the PL took what there is and what there can be and thoroughly planned a a viable vision on energy apart from other alternative energy projects which will also aid in such cost-savings.
Mark Spiteri
Jan 8th, 09:40
A gas pipeline from sicily !!!!
Joe A. Borg
Jan 8th, 09:54
Interconnector from Sicily !!!!
Can you explain to us what happens if this line goes down? The current generating capacity does not meet the local requirements. To replace the cable will take 18 months. Does it mean that in the meantime we have to make-do without sufficient electricity?
Does it mean that we have to keep the Marsa power station stand-by just in case?
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 10:02
@JAB: Gas pipeline is not the interconnector...and yes, it is possible, do you know that there are gas pipelines throughout Europe delivering gas from one country to another and through countries? Why do you talk if your understanding in the matter is below zero?
Joe A. Borg
Jan 8th, 13:28
@ JAL,
You missed the whole point.
My comment was that if the Interconnector is possible, so is the gas pipe and to the fact that were it concerns power generation we are at a very vulnerable position due to the various point of failures.
Also, may I suggest you have a look at a mirror before putting forward certain statements!
Grezzju Mejlaq
Jan 8th, 09:40
Are we serious??? Do PL really think that we are so gullible? This will not work.
For all those who seriously believe in PL's proposals, have a look at what happened in the UK ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2258695/Phil-Bentley-As-families-face-rising-bills-energy-chief-walking-away-13m.html
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 09:49
@GM: Are you serious? Do you understand English? The article you quoted is about the mismanagement of a Director and has nothing to do with the energy issue. How stupid can you be? And since you are an energy expert, please can you give us a complete presentation on how the PL's proposal won't work? Since you are better than the consultants and experts, please illuminate us.
Michel Ellul
Jan 8th, 09:55
did you bother to read what you have linked to?.... it seems not since you did not understand anything of what the article is talking about. Gullible people are deaf people who do not even try to understand the situations that surrounds us and have the audacity to call other people gullible..pffff
Grezzju Mejlaq
Jan 8th, 10:07
Apart from the personal mismanagement, if you look at the table showing gas prices, it has nearly doubled within just 7 years. And this in a country which extracts the raw material and has already all the infrastructure in place . We need to do all of this from scratch. This is what is has happened in the UK: http://www.irateislate.co.uk/article-british-gas-price-rises-hits-energy-customers-65
Victor Calleja
Jan 8th, 11:09
In UK the kilowatt/hour is 0.14 euro. Cheaper than ours.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 09:39
Four years ago they told us surcharge bin-nofs!
Victor Calleja
Jan 8th, 11:09
mela lanqas taf li surcharge spiccat? Qum mir raqda habib
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 8th, 09:39
These are the same people who, keeping a straight face, way back in 1998 promised to remove VAT, and by Jove! they did it. Didn't they? What Sant accomplished then, the Muscat could accomplish again in the MLP/LP own inimitable way. The only difficulty is "Can we rely on a similar deus ex machina solution as we had then after only 22 months?" I wouldn't bet on it.
M. Zammit
Jan 8th, 09:55
yes they did remove VAT only to be replaced by CET with the same percentage rate (15%). Just a change in name
Emanuel Curmi
Jan 8th, 09:56
Dear Mr Saliba. First u were complaining that LP was an unknown entity and yet here we have a plan, costings and a time frame. Reviving the ghosts to cast shadows on this highly ambitious plan to turn Malta from one of the largest polluters in the EU to one of the cleanest, is a clear case of sour grapes. If u have any objections to this plan then, at least, comment on this constructively
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 10:20
So, enlighten us dottore! tell us what PN have done about energy in Malta over the last 25 years ( I repeat - 25 years), apart from a nation still dependent on the Marsa power station and a shady contract. Please, if you are going to try to justify yourself with the solar energy hullabaloo, spare me.
Alfred Falzon
Jan 8th, 10:30
@ Francis Saliba MD
Can you please cease being a prophet of doom?
First check thoroughly whether such a proposal is feasible or not!
It is far from an indecent one and you should by now put a halt to your peevish whining!
Your comments are too biased to be taken seriously!
Alfred A Falzon
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 8th, 12:04
@Emanuel Curmi.
I never said that the LP was an unknown entity. I said that the MLP/LP is a known notorious entity promoting hare-brained schemes that are not worthy of trust. The "ghosts" of its recent flops are firmly embedded and do not need "reviving" in those with a trace of memory and intelligence. That explains the LP strenuous efforts to expunge them from the electors' consciousness.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 8th, 13:09
@RobertAgius
If you are not aware of the tremendous improvement in the quality of the energy being supplied now when compared with that provided in the Mintoff-KMB days (yes 25 years ago) then you are either ignorant about the true condition prevailing then or else you are being intentionally deceptive. In both cases I won’t waste my time trying to disillusion you
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jan 8th, 13:15
@Alfred Falzon
I did not wait for your comment to describe why the proposed scheme (just like the 1996 abolition of VAT promise) lacks credibility. I won't repeat myself for your benefit. Look it up.
Emanuel Curmi
Jan 8th, 13:33
Dear Mr Saliba, I can give you a whole list of 'hare brained schemes' which ended up costing the tax payers millions under this administration. Just because you wear blinkers does not mean that we all do. I am also skeptical of a PL administration but for different reasons than yours. You can be quite good in articulating a good argument so no need to treat the readers like idiots.
Alfred Falzon
Jan 8th, 15:42
@ Francis Saliba MD
You seem to pretend to be an expert in everything!
That's exactly how a blind Party diehard reacts when the interests of his Party are at stake!
aaf
Robert Agius
Jan 8th, 19:06
But of course, technological advancements (still depending on Marsa plant though) exist because of PN. There comes a time when you must step out of wonderland dottore.
Anton Scerri Borg
Jan 8th, 09:39
Issa meta se jhabbar kemm ser jorhos l-ilma ghax s'issa fuq dawl bis-smajna!!!!!!!!
Forsi ser ihabbarha fil-meeting t'Ghawdex?
John Attard
Jan 8th, 09:49
Ma qalx li 5% jew. Dont panic habib. !!
Anton Scerri Borg
Jan 8th, 10:11
fejn qalha siehbu ghax f'dan l-artiklu m'hemm xejn fuq l-ilma!!!
Matthew Grima
Jan 8th, 12:39
Read the article again.
Joseph Camilleri
Jan 8th, 09:38
All these fireworks of joseph muscat who is trying to make us believe that all this is possible. Well he can keep his stories to those who wish to believe him because energy is expensive all over the world and this is not a situation only in Malta. And after all this charade does joseph muscat tell us anything about the future of such reductions in energy? will this go on? I dont believe you jm.
N. Aquilina
Jan 8th, 11:57
Mr. Camilleri did you hear Playmobil's CEO yesterday saying that Malta's tariffs are some of the highest in the world? Ahh I know why you don't know, it was not featured on Net TV
Antonio Pace
Jan 8th, 09:37
"The Labour Party's alternative energy policy will emphasise solar power, a shift from wind" - and the MLP ridiculed the solar farm proposal made by the PM!!!
Charles Camilleri
Jan 8th, 09:54
As are you saying the PN is always proposing proposing proposing and not delivering
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jan 8th, 09:37
First impressions. The PL seems to be going for a bold new strategic approach to contain the exaggerated energy costs by switching over to gas as a fuel and through a public private partnership quickly moving to more efficient electricy generating facilities. Presumably it will also move away from a sole electricity provider and therefore improve overall efficiency of the energy sector .
Mark. Galea
Jan 8th, 09:36
what are the details ? ... I want the details ...
In 96 Alfred Sant promised the removal of Vat. The solution was CET.
Now we have a promise of 25% discount. What are the details?
R. Azzopardi
Jan 8th, 09:44
My thoughts exactly. Labour always targetted the intellectually challenged and they continue to do so. Ghal min hu nieqes mill-intelligenza, these words are music.
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 09:59
@Mark Galea: The details you will read them in the complete document and obviously it is being currently explained. If you and your fellas are intellectually challenged, that's your problem.
Matthew Grima
Jan 8th, 12:38
R. Azzopardi, coming up with such a statement puts you in the intellectually challenged basket as well. Why not provide something worth reading rather than trying to make yourself look smart by voting with blinkers on?
Simon Scerri
Jan 8th, 09:35
Ha jorhos il-gas, ghax qed joghlla ukoll!!!!. bills 25% to save??? joke of the day....Labour wont work!!
Joe Tabone
Jan 8th, 09:35
Can PL inform us where the gas will be stored and/or how long it will take to lay a gas pipeline between Malta & Sicily??
Mario Tabone
Jan 8th, 09:34
Same old Labour......shift from wind they say......at least they admit they are full of wind !!!
Same faces, same policies, same promises will give the same results and that is they will once more as always, destroy these islands......don't trust them.
Andrew Pullicino
Jan 8th, 09:33
Some of the below comments are unbelievable. PL has given us a clear idea of what we are expecting when "they'll be at helm" and we are moaning about something that leaves us with more money in our pockets.
I think it's better some PN Fans focus on their leader promises cause it seems that nothing is on the agenda. They are talking about changing the future when they had 25 years to do so.
Claudio Cilia
Jan 8th, 09:32
Was that all? Seriously -.-
Carmelo Sammut
Jan 8th, 09:32
For my first time i`m going vote for Pl this time
Mario Tabone
Jan 8th, 11:20
I feel so sorry for you.......may you repent at leisure. Pity if we have to suffer with you !!
Maria Spiteri
Jan 8th, 09:31
Ftit nifs fl-ahhar!
Karl Abela
Jan 8th, 09:30
Diga bdejna bil foreign consultants....
John Lusignan
Jan 8th, 09:30
I hear that there is a dutch consultant at the press conference - weren't labour going to do away with consultants?
N. Aquilina
Jan 8th, 11:53
Il konsulent kien hemm biex jikkonferma li din il haga tista issir! U kieku stess il PL lil konsulent hallsu min bwietu u mhux mit taxxi tieghi u tieghek!
G curmi
Jan 8th, 09:30
Proset PL.
Din hija vera t-tama ghall-futur.
U min jichad dan, ghax hu komdu u akkwista minn taht idejn il-klikka!!!!
A. Mifsud
Jan 8th, 09:28
We'd like to hear from the PL whether after reducing the tariffs they will commit themselves to maintain the current feed-in rates for those producing energy through renewable sources such as PV. Thousands of families have invested in renewable sources and its only fair for them to know where their investment stands.
C Falzon
Jan 8th, 09:27
Prosit. Great work from the LP.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 09:27
25% reduction means a subsidy for those who waste electricity.
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j brincat
Jan 8th, 09:27
@K. Vella
"I wonder how Labour is smart enough to fool us as a citizen....
The GIMMICK SHOW is now ON....amazing"
Please don't hurt our intelligence by mentioning the word SMART - for obvious reasons!
And haven't you even realised that we have had a 'gimmick show' for the last quarter of a century?
Where were you!
The PN is just a party of slogans!
jb
Joseph Galea
Jan 8th, 09:27
Fl-ahhar ha jkollna ftit arja sura ta' nies!!!!
Grazzi PL!!!!
Mr robert micallef
Jan 8th, 09:27
well if you believe then you also believed them when they promised to remove vat, lol which they did but only in name
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 09:26
Dear readers,
check for yourselves the high electricity tariffs in Holland where Labour's DNV Kema company is based.
www.energy.eu
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Victor Calleja
Jan 8th, 11:05
Kieku ghandi il paga taghhom lest li nhallas bhalhom. Dan xparagun hu tieghek.
George Abela
Jan 8th, 09:26
Not to be a pest but where will this power station be built? Or will they demolish the present one? And did they say how much the investment will cost?
Daniel Galea
Jan 8th, 09:25
Is the reduction on the total bill for water and electricity consumtion and meters charges ?
Angelo Vassallo
Jan 8th, 09:25
"savings will amount to around 25 per cent in 2014. Industry will benefit from similar savings in 2015"
Beginning of 2014 and 2015 or in December 2014 and December 2015? A year and two years or two years and three years from now?
"public private partnership for the building of new generation facilities" What are these facilities? If the "public" is not interested to invest, what will happen?
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 09:25
Electricity rates in Holland, where the Dutch company DNV Kema is based, is 22c per kilowatt hour, substantially higher than Malta's 12c (for the first 2,000 units per household which covers 90% of all households).
We'll get HIGHER not lower electricity tariffs.
And there's still WATER, the electricity METER and the water METER.
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Ms Mari Bor
Jan 8th, 11:06
copy and paste from the pn's online portal? well done :)
Julian Borg
Jan 8th, 09:25
So now a private operator is going to produce electricity at 25% less and pay for his capital cost and make a profit? If this were credible they should be donating their power plants all over Europe! U le!!
Sam Cachia
Jan 8th, 09:24
same labour same party hahaha - photocopy to Dr Alfred Sant Party
G. Ellul
Jan 8th, 09:29
Tqallbu, PN. Ma wasalx ghaliha dis-soluzzjoni Simon taghkhom?
Victor Calleja
Jan 8th, 09:32
Issa la jigik il kont bi 25% anqas mur hallas kif kont thallas qabel. Ha ha ha
M. Spiteri
Jan 8th, 09:37
did you listen to parts of the press conference Mr. Cachia....let me guess...I think no. same Sam Cachia, same PN people, just blatant talk
G. Vassallo
Jan 8th, 09:39
Din haga li ma kellux il-hila jghamila l-GonziPN. LI-Wieghed il-PL iwetqu, ghallek din id-darba jien u Familja kollha tieghi bil-QALB ser nivvutaw Labour.
R. Balzan
Jan 8th, 09:40
Hi Sam - better tell us that this is all beyond you and that you understood nothing at all. Pity!
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 09:40
Same what?
Giocchino Attard
Jan 8th, 09:23
wow great news I guess it's possible.
Julian Borg
Jan 8th, 09:27
You 'guess' its possible? Is this what our future depends on? Guessing something is possible! Russian roulette anyone?
Mr. Mario F
Jan 8th, 09:58
Keep guessing then
j brincat
Jan 8th, 09:23
What a sigh of relief!
jb
K. Vella
Jan 8th, 09:23
Are these the same existing practices and strategies but are now recycled and adopted by Labour in a different format!!
I wonder how Labour is smart enough to fool us as a citizen....
The GIMMICK SHOW is now ON....amazing
John L Galea
Jan 8th, 09:42
What are the same existing practices? Do you understand anything about energy? Do you know anything of the current situation? I bet you have not even the faintest idea. The current situation is BWSC which is not working and which works on HFO, otherwise there is no strategy. Get a life K. Vella.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:31
376 miljun ewro fuq it-taxpayer u l-familji,
jiġifieri € 2,500 fuq kull familja.
Plus li qed jgħid li xorta jibqa' jħallas 1,500 ruħ fl-EneMalta,
mill-anqas 20 miljun ewro fis-sena,
biex ma jagħmlu xejn għax l-EneMalta tkun qiegħda biss tixtri l-elettriku mill-privat.
Agħar mill-froġa tal-VAT/CET!
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Ms Mari Bor
Jan 8th, 11:05
Mary Camenzuli, you just read maltarightnow by any chance? :)
Alfred Vassallo
Jan 8th, 11:47
@Mary Camenzuli
Issa Mary hu pacenzja ghoqod kwiet kif dejjem ghamilt meta il partit tieghjek kien johrog bil progetti bhall Mater Dei (ora pra nobis) u il BWSC... u ara l-affarijiet jahdmu bil serjeta.
pat muscat
Jan 8th, 09:22
At last a bout of fresh air for the residents in the South and electricity bills 'pain relief' for the rest of us. Is it because of hard headiness that GonziPN did not change to gas in 2009? Is it because DR Austin Gatt is untouchable and therefore we -and many so many Nationalists- have to carry the weight of his blunders?
John Borg
Jan 8th, 09:28
Please comment:
1. Once it is put in place.
2. Once you really start saving money on utility bills
3. Once no other taxes on other things (such a property rates) are imposed to make up for the reduction in utility bills.
Mary Camenzuli
Jan 8th, 10:28
Tipikament
IĦOTTU KNISJA BIEX JIBNU OĦRA.
U N-NIES IĦALLSU!
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N. Aquilina
Jan 8th, 11:52
Mary int mhu se thallas xejn ghax l investiment ha jsir mil privat, mela ma qrajtx l artiklu? Taf meta hallast Mary meta il gvern iddecieda li jmur ghall HFO minflok kif kien pjanat i.e. GAS, jew meta il gvern progett ta miljun ghamlu jiswa 29 miljun! Ara veru m'ghandkomx xi tghidu, hsibtu li din kienet gimmick ta Muscat u li ma tistax issir ghax hekk qal il Kapo tghakom u baqa f'wicckom!
Alan Kay
Jan 8th, 09:21
What is the Labour party's position on the blatant overcharging of EU citizens compared to Maltese nationals?
anthony sultana
Jan 8th, 09:21
Fair enough, that will leave more money in our poket to spend else where PROSIT , PL.
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