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Fenech on PL power plans: 'You do not know what you are saying'

Minister insists gas pipeline better option than using ships

The new BWSC plant at Delimara will be converted to gas under Labour's plan.

The new BWSC plant at Delimara will be converted to gas under Labour's plan.

Updated with comments on Bondiplus - Finance Minister Tonio Fenech this evening poured cold water on Labour's power tariff reduction plans.

Speaking on TVHemm, he said that, firstly Labour was promising to reduce the tariffs from next year when a new power station would, according to its own plans, be completed in 2015. The only way tariffs could be reduced next year was after the interconnector cable from Sicily was commissioned, something which was a PN government project, he said. At that time the average unit cost of electricity would be 11c.

Furthermore, he said, the two-year timeline for the building of the new power station was too short.

It had taken two years to build the latest power station extension, which was smaller, he said. And one needed to allow sufficient time for the tendering process under EU rules, which took at least 18 months.

Mr Fenech questioned the Labour claims that it could reach a 10-year power purchase agreement with the investors who decided to invest in the new power station and gas facilities once gas prices were fluctuating. Furthermore, any investor willing to take that risk would demand payment for it.

The minister said the €367 million investment costs listed in Labour's plans did not include the cost of building three specialised tankers to ferry the required liquefied natural gas. Those ships alone would cost some €160 million. Indeed, relying on three ships was risky and it was better to seek a gas pipeline with Europe financed by the EU, as the government was trying to do.

Another cost which Labour was not speaking about was some €40m to lay the foundations on soft ground in Delimara for the new gas tanks which Labour's artist's impression of the site showed.

Mr Fenech also made arguments that the 9c per unit power production costs which Labour was speaking about did not cover return on capital investment.

He noted that the consultants engaged by Labour had not said that the cost of production from the new power station would be 9c6. It was Labour which said so. The consultants actually mentioned a unit cost of 14c.

The Labour plan, Mr Fenech said, would see substantial over-investment in an effort to achieve energy efficiency. Labour was proposing to build a 200MW power station while retaining the new BWSC plant, Delimara Phase II and the interconnector. That meant a total generating capacity of 800MW when the peak demand was of 400MG. All this would have an impact on tariffs and on return on capital employed.

The minister said the Labour proposal was the same proposed to the government by Bateman some years ago. He asked if Labour Party officials had had meetings with the company.

Labour candidate Kevin Mizzi said he had no knowledge of any such meetings.

Mr Fenech insisted that tariff reductions from 2015 could come about only with the commissioning of the interconnector prepared by the PN government, which would bring the unit cost of production down to 11c. At that time Enemalta would be turning a profit.

Mr Mizzi said Enemalta would still be making losses in 2015. He said the Labour proposal would bring about considerable fuel cost savings for Malta, thus ensuring a return on investment for the investors. Malta would also have security of supply since its energy would come from the new gas power station, the gas-converted BWSC plant and the interconnector, while Delimara Phase II would be retained in reserve and use diesel.

He defended the PL timeframes, saying Labour would hit the ground running with an international call for tenders in April this year followed by a month-long road show in Europe.

MEP Edward Scicluna defended Labour's plans, saying consultants had told the PL that there were many overseas companies which would be interested in the sort of investment which the party was proposing and a 10-year price agreement was feasible, given that the investors would have a guaranteed domestic market. As a result Malta would have a cleaner environment and cheaper power. Furthermore the new investment would not pose a burden on the people as this would be a public-private partnership.

GONZI SEES PARALLEL WITH 1996 VAT PROMISE

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi said Labour's promise on reducing tariffs was similar to its promise in 1996 to remove VAT.

"We have been here before. We warned you then, as we do now, that Labour's plans will drive the country into a wall," Dr Gonzi told a PN rally in Sliema.

Dr Gonzi recalled that the removal of VAT in 1996 had put national finances into a mess and raised the tax burden for the people.

 

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N Chetcuti

Jan 15th, 06:50

What I see is PN desperately shooting down every PL proposal. It's ugly.

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 12:40

Well said, Tony. Tonio asked for it !

Lawrence Fenech

Jan 9th, 10:01

@Portelli.

What if the gas cylinder price goes down will you sue the gas vendor?

Ian Bugeja

Jan 9th, 09:43

Building a power station powered by gas has 1 problem. You need constant gas supply. We cannot store huge amounts of gas on the island so we either require to rely on ships delivering the gas or else on a pipeline.

Relying on ships could be an issue in case of severe weather conditions (which is rare but not impossible)
A pipeline is more adequate but requires longer times to commission and fund,

Joseph Aquilina

Jan 9th, 09:44

It can easilly be converted to gas. But since we do not have a gas pipe yet... and that costs a lot of money... PN did well to give more options to the country!! Not empty promises like PL ... FACTS!

Peter Simpson

Jan 9th, 10:08

@Ian Bugeja. Correct if I am wrong, but Dr Konrad Mizzi -the energy expert -spoke of 'energy mix' gas, interconnector and standby diesel machine. Surely a secure power supply -with standby emergency generation- is the number one priority?. Partit laburista opened the door to a national debate on our energy future: gone are the days when BWSC projects are shrouded in mystery or yellow pages!

Mario Camilleri

Jan 9th, 10:09

@Joseph Aquilina,
The PN said that if they opted to go for gas the extension would have costed €80m more. Rather than building the roofless theater and a circus (parliament) which as far as been told cost is the same, that would be beneficial to less expensive bills and environmentally cleaner.
The bills are inclusive of the whole Delimara PS's debt which was built under EFA in the 90's. FACTS!

Charles Buhagiar

Jan 9th, 10:45

@Ian Bugeja

At the moment we rely on ships bringing HFO rather than gas. What's the difference??

m. borg (slm)

Jan 9th, 09:32

Trux min ma jrid jisma.

Li kieku ghamilt sagrificcju u smajt il-konferenza stamp tal-PL kont tisma dwar ir-rih u l-energija solari.

Tant inthom pappagalli u tiktbu li jghidulkom minn gewwa tal-Pieta li ma tafx li Gonzi stess issa qed jerga jiebdilu dwar ir-rih.

Il-bqija ta' l-argument tieghek lanqas jisthoqlu twegiba.

m. borg (slm)

Jan 9th, 09:26

Exactly Mr Ganado gonzipn cannot at this moment in time give us what the unit cost per KW from the interconnector.

Tonio was unable to give a figure on Rejalta a couple of weeks back wonder how he could come up with a price now in such a short time.

Mario Camilleri

Jan 9th, 09:53

Could it be that since the interconnector is from Sicily at source therefore it is the prerogative of the Italian Gov to decide on the tariffs. Most probably the PN made a blind deal with Italy thereby the PL has his hands tied so opted to limit the usage to 20%.

Edward Mallia

Jan 9th, 09:58

The PL set their consultants to find out Sicily unit cost. Min. Fenech never said anything about that.
A possible snag: such contracts stipulate a minimum utilisation factor for the link; 20% of demand implies too low a level of use.
& there is also the point made in The Times last April, that GAS & CABLE are mutually exclusive. PL may have been caught between the devil & the deep blue sea.

Mr Alexander Azzopardi

Jan 9th, 09:18

What's the min wage in Germany?

joanna farrugia

Jan 9th, 09:22

pls mariella dont compare malta to germany and also if you dont have most maltese workers wage pls say nothing.

B Vella

Jan 9th, 09:26

But in Germany....you have the same wage ? Don't be kidding Please...

Alan Cordina

Jan 9th, 09:15

G. Ellul, are you serious !!??

Albert Bonello

Jan 9th, 09:23

This was not the case this morning on TVAM it was Konrad who seemed unsure of his statistics especially regarding the time frames. It is clear that the PL are banking on the PN's interconector for their success!
Also, if Konrad is so sure of his study why not issue the report and remove any sensitive data. In this way it will give everyone a chance to truely examine and weigh the report!

Wenzu Brown

Jan 9th, 09:23

konrad ma kellu xejn ippreparat. kull ma kellu powerpoint li jista jghamila kulhadd. Ahna rridu naraw studji u rapporti. Min ghandu halqu jghid li jrid.

m. borg (slm)

Jan 9th, 09:29

Yes he Tonio was on defensive and could not come up with coherent arguments.

He wanted to lecture Konrad about hedging when gonzipn was against since Profs Bonnici was minister and started spot buying. It was only lately that gonzipn went for hedging after PL's consistent criticism and they still got it wrong hedging on high prices.

Tonio looked like playing poker with a bridge card pack.

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 09:33

Albert Bonello: One must be naive to believe that GonziPN will say even one word in favour of the PL's project on the eve of the general election. The GonziPN tactic is one - RUBBISH whatever is said by Dr. Muscat and the PL. This will have a boomerang effect, as can be seen in today's editorial columns !

Albert Bonello

Jan 9th, 10:24

Dear Eddie you should take a good look at yourself in the mirror because if there is anyone who is always negative in all the PN do is YOU! Also what you said about the PN rubbishing all that the PL do can also be said for the PL. Its a two way game! At the end you have to evaluate what is said and decide where to throw your vote.

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 11:52

Albert Bonello: You have admitted that GonziPN is rubbishing the P's plans and this project simply because it is coming from the PL. And because we are on the eve of the election ! the PL is not rubbishing anything of GonziPN. Since NO concrete plans have been announced by GonziPN .

Albert Bonello

Jan 9th, 12:28

Dear Eddie, this is like the PL who have no foresight and could only copy the budget presented by the PN. This is how good JM will be for Malta. Stale as a bread with mould.

Alan Cordina

Jan 9th, 09:24

Only 1 thing is missing Adrian! a private investor willing to fork out 300 million from his pocket, for a project from which he will sell to us, electricity at a (much) reduced price per unit ... from which he will do profit, APART from recovering 300 million, and this price will be fixed .....FOR A WHOLE 10 YEAR PERIOD without him (or anyone) knowing what will happen to the price of gas ! Nice !

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 09:30

K. Bugeja: Dak kien il-pjan ta' Tonio Fenech u Lou Bondi li halla lil Tonio Fenech jinterrompi lil Konrad Mizzi halli n-nies ma jkunux jistghu jifhmu sewwa ! Pero hemm zmien bizzejjed biex issa fid-dibattiti tal Awtorita, fejn la l-prezentatur u lanqas il-kelliema ma jkunu jistghu joqghodu jinterrompu u jkollhom l-istess hin ghad-dispozizzjoni taghhom - haga li GonziPN u PBS ma riedux !

Mr Alexander Azzopardi

Jan 9th, 09:19

Lol shall we believe that you voted differently in the past.

V. DeBono

Jan 9th, 10:26

we knew that already :) but still...you as well will enjoy the benefits PL will bring for us all

Alan Cordina

Jan 9th, 09:15

We simply cannot !

Mr Alexander Azzopardi

Jan 9th, 09:22

Than we should trust who do what he what wants without any options and presentations? Resulting in another fiasco!

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 12:00

George Cutajar: How many timesin the past have you heard Tonio Fenech say, that he couldn't give the requested information , due to the fact that the information requested " was of a commercial nature " ?

Wenzu Brown

Jan 9th, 11:04

Eddy wiegeb il mistoqsija ghax dejjen tizloq mit twegibiet. Insomma int tghodd mal OLD LABOUR.

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 09:26

Wenzu BRown. Meta qabbad l-istess kumpanija li GonziPN jikkonsulta fuq problemi tal-energija - KEMA - dan ghamlu halli zgur HADD ma jkun jista jghid li l-progett ghamlu bla ma kellu esperti b'esperjenza internazzjonali. Ghalhekk li qal Tonio Fenech u Gonzi u semplici storja ohra ta L-GHENEB QARES !

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 09:21

Paul Falzon: It is you who are trying to insult the intelligence of readers The time frame has been ENDORSED BY the same international company - KEMA - which GonziPN has used for consultancy services on power generation , till very recently on the BWSC problems !

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 09:18

Anthony Farrugia: So you think you can rubbish this PL project which has been found doable and sustainable by the same international company - KEMA - which the present government has used to check the problems of the BWSC power station ! What an expert !

Anthony Farrugia

Jan 9th, 09:30

Eddy Privitera: So you are back, missed you ! lol. You have not answered my questions : how are water and electricity supplies to be guaranteed during construction/conversion process ? Or will it be to pre-1987 with water and electricity shortages ? Go on , let us have some answers, make my day Eddy !

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 12:06

Anthony Farrugia: So you think both the local experts and the international experts MISSED your point when they have been working on this project for so long ??? Why not face Konrad Mizzi instead of Tonio Fenech next time , and ask him your stupid question ?

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 08:56

Manny Debono: So you think that plans which have taken many months to prepare by local and foreign experts, can be rubbished in a few hours, proves what a gullible person you are ! In fact THE SAME COMPANY WHICH IS USED BY GONZIPN FOR CONSULTANCY SERVICES ON POWER GENERATION - KEMA - HAS CHECKED THE PL'S PROJECT AND GAVE ITS ENDORSEMENT !! The Times. Malta Today,Independent , AD welcomed it !

Charles Buhagiar

Jan 9th, 11:08

People like the contractor who built and manages the Mellieha old people's home will go for such investment. Maybe you would be interested to know who this contractor is!

Jean Paul Micallef

Jan 9th, 08:39

Yes the money is alot but we will not pay this, private sector will.

And what we SAVE as a country is even more. Its simply doing what could have been done years ago and avoiding the latest tariffs.


Google it out

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 08:46

Christian Borg: When negotiations would still have to be conducted with different companies, certain details cannot be divulged as they are of a commercial nature. How many time have we heard Tonio Fenech and other ministers say that the information requested cannot be given as the information requested is of a commercial nature ???

Jean Paul Micallef

Jan 9th, 08:35

Do you know anything about power generation. Tonio is a politician conrad is a technical person and any engineer would have agreed. If this was done years ago we would be super comfy. This decision is very imp to shift from deficit to surplus, and no other solution exists.

Check your facts and learn.

Lawrence Fenech

Jan 9th, 08:40

@Micallef.

Tonio had to sit there and bear it listening to an expert on the subject, Tonio ruined the Malta finances that's where he is an expert and handing out 600 euros a week to his friends around him and a 600,000,000 debt and 600,000 euro a day interest.

pat muscat

Jan 9th, 08:41

@Mr Joey Micallef.
On Bondi+, GonziPN politicians outclass everyone! Bondi asked questions to Dr Muscat and Fenech answered them.!
DR Konrad Mizzi-an energy expert- was there for decoration?

Eddy Privitera

Jan 9th, 08:48

Joe Micallef: All Tonio Fenech did was to try and not let Konrad Mizzi explain clearly so people could understand. It was obvious that Tonio Fenech was only interested in sowing doubts. But his tactics have failed dismally since The Times, Malta Today, The Malta Indcependent, AD and various industrialists have welcomed the PL's plans !!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Joe Micallef

Jan 9th, 09:27

You have not even understood that the main uissue is of a financial nature and not a technical one.

Should I be surprised that you have no clue what you're talking about! Not really

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:34

Pull our other leg, will you!

Jean Paul Micallef

Jan 9th, 08:43

Sign a contract to pay the old bills the devil has put on your plate.

Come on im 28 and this Energy change is possible and has other positives issues.

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:21

just like the VAT fiasco in 1996>>>>>

History repeating itself!

Those were the exact words we heard then

lorraine barbara

Jan 9th, 08:53

@ Denis Pace .... you better watch out the bigger fiasco your government has done these past 5 years. You cannot keep on looking the past of PL..because YOU people afraid of change because PL is a NEW motive group with bright and fresh ideas. Tonio fenech qas joqod hdejn Konrad....Tonio is not a technical person unlike Konrad who is an engineer on power generation

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:22

Ma tantx se tinbidel din ghax dak propost ghandu mill-inqas ghaxar snin biex isir. L-unika haga hija l-interconnector li ppjana l-PN.

Joe Busuttil

Jan 9th, 08:52

@ Denis ---did you at least read the information provided by the PL about the whole thing? If not try and get informed .

brian spiteri

Jan 9th, 08:38

Mela ha nirrispondik ghaz zewg mistoqsijiet, ta l ewwel il pl ghandu bosta kumpaniji interessati serjament, u it tieni mistoqsija ma nafx kif ma tisthix issaqsiha meta il gvern kellu bosta kumpaniji bhall go, hsbc, MIA u il gas division ta l enemalta fejn kien jiehu il profitt u kien il gvern nazzjonalista li bieghhom!!! Isthi jekk taf tisthi.

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:23

Il-proposta tal-PL trid tkun KREDIBBLI u FATTIBBLI biex titwemmen.


S'issa, lil popolin b'naqra mohh......mhux konvint.

Jeffrey Mallia

Jan 9th, 08:10

Mux diga hallasna qares bil hames't Biljun Euro dejn ?? Xi trid thallas aktar sur Brincat ??

K. Bugeja

Jan 9th, 09:30

mela nsejt il-miljuni li qalulna li gejjien mil-ewropa meta tlifna hafna flus li suppost hadna u li minflok spiccajna hallasna. u l-multi li qed naqalaw minhabba l-polution li qed jinholoq mil-power station?? saru hafna affarijiet li qalulna li kien investiment u minflok kien telf kbir min dan il-gvern. Why worry now?? why all this fear?? I will not fear now. il-kbir adda u issa niflah niehu aktar

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:24

No Franco...Thank God!

Joseph Vassallo

Jan 9th, 08:49

PN is already building an interconnector, which will reduce tariffs to the levels Joseph Muscat is saying, by 2014!

There is NO guarantee that any company will want to invest 300 million euro on a project that cannot guarantee a profit over a 10 year period!

The price of gas will continue to increase and therefore costs of company will continue to increase!

Ray Buhagiar

Jan 8th, 21:28

That's because you are unable to accept reality

Antonella Briffa

Jan 8th, 23:56

oh what a real shame Alfred. Maybe you needed higher concentration levels. I followed and understood Tonio Fenech and his arguments perfectly, which outlined a very costly and an unlikely to happen project.

Joseph Aquilina

Jan 9th, 01:08

Read the article above and you will get a clear idea of his arguments plus facts why lejber plans - which took four years to be made - are totally flawed!!

Franco Farrugia

Jan 9th, 06:39

Emm.... 'arrogant interventions' or 'constructive arguments'? Decide, please.

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:25

Till now LP proposals are very flawed and many questions are unanswered..........

Mark Spiteri

Jan 9th, 08:54

I understood Tonio very clearly as he was very clear to whoever wanted to listen objectively. Labour's plans make no sense. We are spending 200 million for an interconnector which labour will only use 20% of potential....its crazy.

Joseph Aquilina

Jan 9th, 01:12

Clearly you already decided who to vote ... from the day you where born ... I wonder how it is possible for you to say nothing about all the FACTS mentioned by the minister against the project yet you believe all that Joseph tells you even this Joseph has NO FACTS to back his argument. How?

Joseph Aquilina

Jan 9th, 01:15

... and PN DID MAKE THINGS BETTER ... while PL and Joseph were busy trying to take the country in the wrong direction ... Wonder if Joseph still knows where Cyprus is on the map. You think he knows? Or now he forgot about Cyprus?

Tommy Vella

Jan 9th, 05:54

You sound exactly like arrogant Labour. Where was the minister dictating? Since when is giving an opinion, dictating? Labour wants only its voice to be heard. That is why Labour won't work, it does not accept criticism. What it says is sacrosanct. We've been there before. Before you vote, think about this.

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:27

just like the VAT debacle......very credible to some....However after a few weeks, they were kicking themselves in the shins. Mintoff gave us a lifeline and we took it.

Mark Spiteri

Jan 9th, 09:08

Its unbelievable how gullible some people are to believe that a power station will be up and running in two years.

marius mifsud

Jan 8th, 21:08

jekk hsibt hekk ifissir li qed tammetti li l-impjanti presenti kienu qedin jithadmu mhux efficjenti

Joe Busuttil

Jan 8th, 21:22

Ghallanqas se jorhsu xi darba. Jekk jerga jitla Gonzipn joghlew zgur ,mhux veru?

Jay Aquilina

Jan 8th, 21:24

mela kif hsibt jien li se tonqos it tax band ghax biha tela fil gevrn il partit gonzipn, u hallina j.c.

J. Vella

Jan 8th, 21:40

jien ukoll hsibt li smart city ha timpjega 5000 ruh imma ada smart city fantazma! jien ukoll hsibt li gej progett fil-white rocks izda hemm borg gebel ghadu!!

Darren Attard Bonnici

Jan 8th, 21:41

anke jien ekk hsibt fuq l-income tax ... li ser titrahhas fit 2008

Abe Sammut

Jan 8th, 21:47

il pn kienu qalu li ha jkun hawn surplus flok defeicit fil pajjiz ghaddew hames snin u ma rajnijomx u l income tax hames snin wara naqqasom ghax waslet l-elezzjoni. Ma ninsewx kemm ilu jghid joghla kull xahar il prezz taz zejt issa qisu rega beda nizel ma l-elezzjoni x'kumbinazzjoni! semma windfarms, interconnector,bwsc heavy fuel oil, solar panel farm... to be continued

Abe Sammut

Jan 8th, 21:47

.... ovvjament kull m hu ha jsemmi il labour ha tghidu kontu qeghdin tesperimentaw fuqu biex taghmluh hahahahaha u halluna mhux kullhadd retard u mazzun ta

M. Bezzina

Jan 8th, 22:12

I waited for GonziPN when he promised to reduce income tax...I thought he will do it immediately when he was re-elected and not waiting until the last 3 months of his term to do it imagine after nearly 5yrs not 1yr on your contrary!!!Pay attention what you write Mr.Borg because there are plenty of other issues that wasn't addressed by the PN fiasco.

Marco Bonello

Jan 8th, 22:21

u bis sahha ta progett NAZZJONALISTA....... L`interconnector ghax dak biss zgur ha jsir, il bqija kollox holm

Mr Albert Dimech

Jan 8th, 22:26

Dak li ħsibt int, PL qatt ma qal mill-għada. Issa qallek meta, kif u kemm, u issa taf x'ser isir u ddeċiedi. Kien Gonzi li qallek se jnaqqas it-taxxa għal 25% fl-ewwel sena (fuq Dissett) u ma għamiliex.

Antonella Briffa

Jan 8th, 23:58

in our dreams ! taf fuq liema partit qed nitkellmu hux hekk? Enough said

David John

Jan 9th, 06:25

J.C. il-weghdiet li ghamillek LG kollha wettaqhom l-ghada ta' l-elezzjoni? insejt li hafna minnom ghadhom biss holm. Anke tarbija iddum 9 xhur bies titwieled. Hu ftit pacenzja ftit.u stenna.

John L Galea

Jan 9th, 07:24

Ara veru tparlaw fil-vojt. Mela jekk kieku qal li se jrahhashom mill-ghada, kieku tohorgu tghidu li hu rresponsabbli. Ghax sena wara, hazin ukoll. Ghax se jrahhas hazin. Jekk jgholli hazin. jek xejn hazin. Iddeciedu xi tridu.

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:28

in your dreams....trid mill-inqas 10 snin!...sa kemm ma jgholliex xi taxxi ohra biex irahhashom!!

Mark Bonaci

Jan 8th, 22:09

you should thank PN you know the meaning and can use words like Benchmarks and contingency!

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:29

The PN has manged to guide the country through the Economic crisis. There were mistakes and bumps on the road.....
In 1996, we believed the MLP in removal of VAT. We learnt a good lesson then.

NOT TO BE REPEATED!!

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:19

Jekk ma nbidlux irrotta sejjrin nizbaljaw bil-kbir
il-pjan huwa externally audited, mhux holm, jew hrafa
hemm wisq beneficji u wara kollox Gonzi diga li qed jimxi fuq il-pjan tal-gvern!!!!
Allura ghaliex ma wettqux hu ??????

D Zarb

Jan 8th, 21:50

Mr Calleja nahseb li kieku tara kif konna f'dawn l-ahhar xhur tinduna li ma tantx konna tajjeb. allura ha tafda f'persuna bhal Gonzi u l klikka tieghu. Nahseb iktar jaghmel sens Joseph ghax ghandu idejat u l grinta biex iwettaqhom.

S Scerri

Jan 8th, 22:00

Jekk trid saqajk fis sod ghamel il kalkolu ckejken li l-Enemalta hi falluta u tista tibqa naqra fil-wicc jekk jizdiedu l-kontijiet tad-dawl! Possibli difficli daqsekk tifmhu dan il-progett li hu uzat min daqsekk pajjizi fl-ewropa. Il-gas hus-soluzzjoni. Kwistjoni ta' somom Sur Calleja.

A. Agius

Jan 8th, 23:59

"Gamble" ghax forsi hekk jaqbillek tiddiskriviha Mr. Calleja. Kemm infakkrek li biex setghet tinxtara il-power station tal-BWSC kellha tinbidel ligi, dik li power station ghandha tithaddem bil-gas u minflok tithaddem bil-HFO. Jekk mhux decizjoni hazina dik, x'issejhilha? Il-PN issa probabli jfittex xi counter proposal fuq il-yellow pages

David John

Jan 9th, 06:32

L-interess tal- pajjiz ghandek sur Calleja int? Lanqas qed turi x'kulur int. Taf ghalfejn qeghdin fis-sod ghax tfajtu saqajkom fid-dejn li ghamiltu u hadd ma jista jnehhih bil-politika li ghandkom.

Andrew Siad

Jan 8th, 21:23

MLP has changed to PL. update

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:38

This was factored in by the auditing company entrusted with the review.
What is the option
do nothing and rot

Mr Albert Dimech

Jan 8th, 21:42

Would you prefer to pay higher prices for electricity? This is what's in store if PN are returned to power, the European Commission said this! The PL proposal can bring them down, not because gas prices will not change, BUT because power generation with gas is cheaper.

David Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:56

as if you ever considered it?
as for gas futures check out 'gas fracking technology' and you will understand that the price of gas just cannot rise for the foreseeable future.

m borg

Jan 8th, 22:05

Byron : with or without your vote labour will win anyway :)

Deo Catania

Jan 8th, 22:13

as if you were really thinking of voting PL. Go and vote gonzipn again, enjoy your cejca.

Byron Abela

Jan 9th, 10:01

David, M Borg and Deo
Certainly your comments make me even more convinced not to vote.

John Bonello

Jan 8th, 21:16

The PL proposal would take years to build gas storage facility, pipe line & converting the Delimara power station into gas. beside what would happen with the tarrifs when the shipping & gas cost increase, who's gonna subsidies the investors for their losses.

taken into consideration the cost of this project why not the PL, gives full subsidies for every house hold to Install PV Panels

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:20

And what may I say is GonziPN`s plan to reduce tariffs, or are we to get more of the same;
rise in tariffs and increasing Enemalta debt.

Tony Borg Borg

Jan 8th, 21:27

Eddie/Eddy dejjem tohlom fuq l-istess haga.

HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI

Jan 8th, 23:16

The issue at present is not if the PN will increase the tariffs but if Muscat will reduce the tariffs. I am no expert and not a technical person to criticize but yes I am a bussiness man. At present Enemalta buys fuel oil and in future gas, to provide energy. Now we are being told that a sort of middle private investment will sell energy to Enemalta. Therefore more profits more costs.

A Trapani

Jan 8th, 23:24

.... Eddy... if you watched Bondi Plus today, the Minister just did. As usual, your statements are false..... Please note that.

Antonella Briffa

Jan 9th, 00:03

Dear Eddy, Tonio Fenech DENIED IT!!! So please stop lying and find something else to criticise, given that you have been criticising everything under this government !!!!!!!!! But I do pity you. You know being part of an opposition for so long certainly inspired you to be an all round helpless critique !

A. Sultana

Jan 9th, 00:55

Do you mute your TV when listening to them? I heard Tonio mentioning it again and again, not only today but just after the budget.

Wenzu Brown

Jan 9th, 07:41

qallek il bierah car u tond li l kontijiet mhux ser jghollihom. nahseb jew iddum biex tifhem jew ma tridx tifhem.

Wenzu Brown

Jan 9th, 07:49

Eddy, din bhal tas sahha meta ghidtu li ser tkun bil flus??????? ghadda zmien u s sahha ghada b xejn. Hallina Eddy mur immilita mas CNI.

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:32

That is what YOU wish.
The plan is to reduce tarriffs, not through wild dreams, but through the Interconnector Cable (March 2014).


At least we have FACTS, not smoke..
LP proposal ( as for VAT removal) takes us for a ride.

Mr Albert Dimech

Jan 8th, 21:44

Ma qal xejn? Meta kulħadd irid ikun jaf il-proposti u hawn eluf ta' nies li huma mkissra bil-kontijiet.

Charles Fenech

Jan 8th, 22:36

How wrong you are! PL has the duty to explain its proposals. Had it done like you are suggesting it would surely not stand any chance of being elected.

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:25

GomziPN have been warned many months before hand how to reduce tariffs,
Partit Laburista was ignored
Even the tender for a gas powered power station was retracted to favour Heavy Oil
which would have caused a slow "genocide" of the south population, asthma, lung disease, birth defects, allergies, heart disease, and cancer.
Long live a healthier and safe environment.
PL did their homework well.

M Micallef

Jan 8th, 22:18

Buying gas for the same price for the next 10 years is very very realistic.

M Borg

Jan 8th, 23:21

Read what energy prices there are in the UK at the moment. Energy is provided by private companies and the rates are going up every year. The same will happen in Malta . What private companies look for is profit, that means we have to pay what they ask for even if the prices are high.

With private companies providing energy the rates will go up not down !

Joseph Camilleri

Jan 9th, 00:20

yes I hope you will have the decency to repeat these words when all this happens and it would be a farce! lejber has become a total absurdity.

Deo Catania

Jan 8th, 22:10

nothing of substance to say Antoine? nothing new.

David Bezzina

Jan 8th, 22:20

Really,the PL gave its sound proposals on energy.All that your party has to show is BWSC powerstation that works with heavy fuel oil.
I think it is very clear to us all who is in chaos Mr.Vella !

Edward Mallia

Jan 8th, 22:45

George Pullicino's recently unveiled National Energy Policy states quite unequivocally that the result of "Studies" shows that LNG (which has to be imported by ship), offers the best option for a gas supply. Chaos in the PN camp too? In like manner a High Voltage Direct Current cable is said to offer the cheapest electricty but we have a HV Alternating Current link. Chaos again?

Paul@ Micallef

Jan 8th, 23:03

I am sure that with the help of the Yellow Pages the LP will find a contractor to deliver the gas needed for the new power station.

A. Agius

Jan 9th, 00:02

and what's wrong if we had to import gas by sea? We import almost everything in that way…. perhaps a stronger argument is needed

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:38

Very obvious.....No actual plans exist. The plans are being made up day-to-day...as for the Water debacle...

Daniel Dreano

Jan 8th, 21:28

And please let's not forget that DNV KEMA is actually a world-leading energy consultant!

James Abela

Jan 9th, 03:17

No, but we all knew that you would; even though its is easy to see that the PL plan is not realistic.

Wenzu Brown

Jan 9th, 07:47

Where are the plans? That's only a power point. Everyone can do that. If they have all the plans and studies I think it will be more credible if you publish them.

Denis Pace

Jan 9th, 08:39

Any decent thinking citizen will do the same, Eddy.
We can only be bitten once (1996- VAT...remember!!)

S Scerri

Jan 8th, 22:03

Successful projects like these always attract solid investors. Selling energy is good business

Joseph Sammut

Jan 9th, 07:31

How do you know what Dr. Muscat knows: you don't seem to be anywhere close to Dr. Muscat. Close mindedness at its best!

John Bonello

Jan 8th, 21:22

Not quite right, it was a two men race with only one winner. Councillors voted for a new face but T.Fenech is still admired for his competitiveness & commitment in financial sector, his work and that of the PN saved thousands of jobs during the recession, brought new investments& record in tourism. His work is so admired that even JM copied his budget, something that was never done in Malta before

Anthony Mizzi

Jan 8th, 20:56

wara 25 sena u ghad hemm il-Power station ta' Delimara mhux imhalls, l-extention mitfija..... u tal-Marsa li Eddie Fenech Adami qal li ha jghalaqa fin 1987 ghada miftuha!


Dik energija....

John Bonello

Jan 8th, 21:35

@Anthony Mizzi

Correct and that show the sensitivity of this issue. you dont wake up in the morning and decide to convert the powerstaion to operate on gas. It's a huge sensitive issue and if this goes wrong you and others like you will be looking for a job abroad.

The gimmick in all of this is the time-frame given for completion of this project, it take years to complete all this

John Bonello

Jan 8th, 21:37

Anyone with a slight intellegence would tell you that this proposal is not feasabile, the proposal is short of technical studies, if the PL did it's own studies accordingly it would know that this would take years to build and commision. I work aborad in the energy sector and been involved in many projects abraod...the commisioning alone would take months to finish

marius mifsud

Jan 8th, 20:42

what i am going to say stands to be corrected but i think that the eu imposing on each member country the need to be self sufficient that is if the maximum demand is around 480 of power so have to be able to produce them yourself even if you don't use your full local capacity. Also i think that muscat said that the old delimara plant will be closed in 2015.

Charles Fenech

Jan 8th, 23:45

Dear Mario, do you know that we currently have nearly 650MW, assuming BWSC works as it should! Yes you must have extra capacity to be able to switch to the right energy mix according to the prices.

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:27

Kumpanija privata jew konsortiu jafu kif ghandhom jinvestu u risk factors jgorruhom huma fl-investiment.

A Cachia

Jan 8th, 20:19

Niehu gost nara li mhux kullhadd ghandu memorja qasira.

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:33

A REPUTABLE EXPERT FOREIGN AUDITING COMPANY DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOU.

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:36

And the suffering
and the broken family left behind
orphaned children and widow
and their dependency on the social services
can you calculate the human suffering and cost?

N Galea

Jan 8th, 20:37

Sir Brincat, bil-weghdi ta PL, sa 2015, il 5 biljuni jkunu saru 6. Power stat. gdida u kontijiet inqas!

Anthony Mizzi

Jan 8th, 20:57

Dak IRRELEVANTI ghal Dr. Gonzi u l'Oligarkija tieghu gha mhux hu ha jhallas...... hu jordna u jonfoq biss U NHALLSU AHNA , uliedna u ulied uliedhom!

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:32

A government able to accumilate a nine billion debt
(5 billion at present and the 4 billion left by labour in 1987)
is not a people friendly government
squandering other peoples money

S Scerri

Jan 8th, 22:06

Kullimkien fl-ewropa qed jinghataw dawn il-garanziji, kultant imissek tinvesti f' magazin ta' l-ekonomija

A. Agius

Jan 9th, 00:11

then why were PN exponents asking for details if according to you details are irrelevant and irrealistic? Where is the consistency?

Anthony Mizzi

Jan 8th, 20:59

€5 million for Bridges leading to nowhere and €20 million Ivory Towers just on a a whim!

B. Farrugia

Jan 8th, 21:28

They will not build them a private company will

L Zammit

Jan 8th, 20:33

Tumas, il-passat garanzija tal-futur.

Mr Joe Micallef

Jan 8th, 20:36

"Għalfejn tipprovaw taqtgħu qalb il-poplu? "

Ara trid tkun veru ma tafx tisthi biex tikteb hekk! Imsomma dik milli jkollha ittik.

Tony Zammit

Jan 9th, 06:37

L Zammit

Gonzi's il-passat garanzija tal-futur. because same people and the same mentality

Joe Vella

Jan 8th, 20:31

JG Briffa, Tonio Fenech and the Government knows exactly what they are doing. Both opted for a permanent gas link to the Continent instead shipping Gas to the Island. A permanent link would allow a los in the future to have a national distribution in place to deliver gas to households directly as Electricity an water in being done now.

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