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Muscat insists water bills will go down too

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Labour leader Joseph Muscat insisted this morning that water tariffs would go down under a Labour government.

He was clearly reacting to yesterday's deputy leaders' debate where PL deputy leader Anglu Farrugia first said the PL had said nothing about reducing water tariffs, but then appeared to back-pedal.

The PN, Dr Muscat said, was trying to twist words. It was now asking whether Labour would raise water bills. But it was well known that half of Malta's water production came from reverse osmosis plants, the highest power consumers in Malta. Therefore, when electricity prices went down, as they would under Labour, water prices would go down too, Dr Muscat said. If the government did not understand this, it had a serious problem of governance.

Earlier, Dr Muscat said the government had collapsed because the prime minister preferred Austin Gatt over stability. The government had gone from one crisis to another and yet the government was saying it was satisfied.

The government was ignoring the crises which the people had suffered and was only interested in itself.

Dr Muscat said Malta needed a change of direction, away from arrogance.

Dr Gonzi had shown no regret over the €500 raise given to the ministers, the Arriva situation, the power station, the higher water and electricity rates and much more. 

Dr Muscat described Dr Gonzi and Dr Simon Busuttil as Batman and Robin. He said that Dr Busuttil, with the arrogance he was showing, was appearing to be a more worthy successor of Austin Gatt than Lawrence Gonzi.

The Opposition, he said, could not vote in favour of the Budget because it did not have confidence in the government and did not trust it. The PL had said that its pledge to retain the Budget framework would ensure that the country would not be harmed.  That stand was proved by ratings agency Fitch within a few hours.

Under this government, he said, the people had seen the real value of their wages go down by €8.46 since 2008. In 2007 Malta had 78,000 in danger of poverty and in 2001 that went up to 88,000. Under Labour, those who were doing well would continue to do well, but its overall aim would again be to wipe out poverty in line with its mission of social justice, Dr Muscat said to applause.

Labour, he insisted, would build a new middle class.

Dr Muscat said that after the €500 raise issue became public, a leading PN exponent pulled him over and sought an agreement which would also benefit the members of the Opposition. But, Dr Muscat told him, Labour was not for sale (applause). This was the Labour which the people knew. Labour was honest and genuine in what it said and would do (more applause).

Labour did not turn to the people just in the month before the general election but would be with the people always, and everywhere.

The Labour leader said that when Franco Debono used to speak, the Nationalists in Parliament used to hover around him like bees on honey. But once they did not need him any more, Dr Debono was dumped and described as irrelevant. That too would happen to the people after they voted. For Labour, everyone was relevant. Would Dr Busuttil hold a debate with Dr Debono?

He said that Labour remained the underdog in the elections, not just because of the constitutional powers which the prime minister enjoyed, but also the way how PBS had been reduced to a shameful situation. The institutions would be employed against Labour, and one could expect many lies against Labour as happened in the prime minister's comments on the election date, on oil prices, taxation on the minimum wage, and the 20,000 jobs which the government said it had created.

Dr Muscat said Labour would present a roadmap of concrete plans for economic growth. Its campaign would be aim for unity and not scaremongering, as the government was doing.

Stipends would stay, he said, and he also wanted to assure Arriva workers, those joining the civil service, LSA and those in the army, among others. He also wanted to similarly reassure former Nationalists who would vote Labour. What the country needed was change. Labour was the natural home of those who wanted change for the better.  He himself had not been born in this movement and joined it out of choice for its principles. Those principles included ensuring that everyone benefited from economic growth.

THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM

Touching on the situation at the law courts, Dr Muscat said one could not have a situation where the people lost confidence in the justice system. Ten years after this sector was rocked, Malta was back to square one. This, alone, showed the need for a change of direction.

The reform had to be far bigger than raising the salaries of judges and extending their retirement age. That was why Labour was promising a comprehensive reform by the end of 2013. It would be a reform which would stretch from the manner of appointment of the members of the judiciary, to the manner of their operation. There needed to be more checks and balances and the Commission for the Administration of Justice needed to be given teeth to function effectively.

ELECTORAL CORRUPT PRACTICE

PL deputy leader Anglu Farrugia in comments before Dr Muscat’s comments, warned that the PL would not tolerate any situation where contractors or employers threatened workers to vote PN.

He referred to a court sentence he revealed on Xarabank yesterday (where an employer was found to have threatened a worker to vote PN in the 2008 general election) Dr Farrugia asked who would be held responsible.

The Electoral Commission should be vigilant and Malta could not go to an election with a repetition of such abuse. 

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Eddy Privitera

Dec 17th 2012, 22:51

Giov DeMartinO: Lilek spiss infittxek izda rari nara kumment tieghek ! Ma nibzax nikkummenta fil-blog iehor li hi mizghuda b'apologisti ta' GonziPN iffissati aktar minnek, se nitwerwer ninnek ??? Meta trid ara tirrangax xi dibattitu bejnietna FEJN TRID INT.

HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI

Dec 19th 2012, 09:44

@ Eddy Privitera
Int ghadek lanqas wigibt lilli fuq min qed jghid il verita bejn Karmenu Vella U Muscat u issa Anglu ahseb u ara kemm int tajjeb biex tghamel dibattitu.

Jo Grima

Dec 17th 2012, 15:13

batman is batman, robin is robin, and muscat is the joker !!

Jo Grima

Dec 17th 2012, 15:14

So i take it you will be voting Alernativa !! there is no other choice

joseph demicoli

Dec 17th 2012, 08:41

for you it doesn't matter HOW the prices will go down because what ever happens you still vote for your dictatorial party . and if the prices will stay as they are, you still be happy because you never complained that the prices are high. lol

M Gatt

Dec 17th 2012, 08:46

Anything that's different from the current administration of GonziPN is a bonus for me.

John Scerri

Dec 17th 2012, 11:40

Dear M . Gatt I would prefer saying anything BETTER than anything DIFFERENT.
The different could be worse.

That's what happened in 1996 when Labour promised revision of this and that , won the election and things got worse ...just as they will be if Labour will not indicate CLEARLY what it will do AND HOW .

We wait and see dear friend.

John Scerri

Dec 17th 2012, 08:14

@ C Mucat.........Ahseb u ara Franco Debono kemm kien jaf x'fih il-bagit meta qal li kien ser jivvota kontrih minghajr ma rah jew ried ipaxxi lil dawk li qedin juzwah sa l-elezjoni biex imbaghad jarmuh daqs li kieku kien xi carruta hazina?

Povru Franco ....ghad xi darba jghid ''xi zball ghamilt !''

joseph demicoli

Dec 17th 2012, 08:44

u l-anqas kien jaf li l-elezzjonijiet tal kunsilli jisghtu jitmexxew il-quddiem kif ukoll lura u l-anqas kien jaf li il fabbrika fantazma Brasiljani kienet telqet minn Malta. Dan il bniedem inqabblu ma Cikku il poplu

joseph demicoli

Dec 17th 2012, 08:51

issa tkun taf fis-7 ta jannar meta jinkiexfu il-karti u haga ohra forsi kont ghadek ma twellidtx Meta Mintoff iddikjara li l-inglisi ser jitilqu minn Malta fil-1979 pampaluni nazzjonalisti bhalek kinu qalu li ma jistghax ikun u jekk jitilqu ser immuti bil-guh .Mhux talli Malta ma mietetx bil-guh imma kellha l-aqwa ligijiet socjali fl-ewropa. Ara gonzi espert kif jgholli id dejn nazzjonali

Jo Grima

Dec 17th 2012, 12:12

@Joseph Demicoli .....eeee iva bilhaqq, fis 7 ta jannar hiereg il beef !! sa issa kull ma rajna il chicken !!

joseph demicoli

Dec 17th 2012, 08:56

mela insejtu is-slogan ta Sarkozy u li gonzi ikkopja li jghid " Flimkien kollox possibli lol" Ara li kienet il kontra u din il weghda hariga il partit tieghekma konts tikkumenta hekk.

twanny borg

Dec 17th 2012, 08:59

Il-lum kull kumpanija tqabbad kuntratturi ghax jigu irhas. Ma fihmtx sewwa t-tieni paragrafu imma jekk gejt bla xoghol jiddispjacini u nixtieqlek li issib xoghol ahjar minn qalbi.

A. Attard

Dec 16th 2012, 23:31

No he sure did not!!! The EU directive referred to is The Water Framework Directive.....from the EU website: "The need to conserve adequate supplies of a resource for which demand is continuously increasing is also one of the drivers behind what is arguably one of the Directives's most important innovations - the introduction of pricing." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alex Falzon

Dec 17th 2012, 07:04

Min jisimghek titkellem jahsibna pajjiz tat-tielet dinja... minn xix ghaddejt f'dawn il-hames snin?? din tal-faqar assurda... hawn familji inqas ixurtjati imma mhux insejhulu faqar estrem...

Mark Cassar

Dec 17th 2012, 08:27

standard of living baxxa? Staqsi lill-dawk li siefru dawn is-snin bin-nies dejjem jizdiedu, staqsi lil tar-ristoranti, bi hwienet ippakkjati kull weekend! Staqsi lil min investa f'pajjizna (ma nsemmilekx kumpaniji ghax ma niqafx), staqsi lil min investa fl-istocks tal-gvern jew f'bonds ta' kumpaniji, staqsi lill-istudenti, staqsi lil dawk li qed jistennew kju biex ihallsu XIRJA mimlija b'kollox!

Jo Grima

Dec 17th 2012, 12:23

@ charles. "standard of living tbaxxa, faqar zdied skond int.....mela ghalfejn sraqtuhom il foqra meta ghamiltu gabra ghal kampanja. €415,000 (jew kemm kienu) misruqa min fuq dar il foqra !!

G. Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 20:28

Bir-rispett kollu jien kulma smajtu jghid kienu kliem ta' kuragg u ghaqda. Halliha li ghajjat xi ftit imma dik turik li konvint milli qed jghid.

M Gatt

Dec 16th 2012, 22:18

At least he knows what he's saying unlike Gonzi being a lawyer and making incorrect statements about our country's laws like the one about the Election date. We're still waiting for GonziPN to voice its opinion about that thing with the contractors forcing their employees to vote for GonziPN or else they would have got fired. Farrugia presented solid proof with no reply from Simon to be heard.

Jo Grima

Dec 17th 2012, 14:11

G. Abela. " Halliha li ghajjat xi ftit imma dik turik li konvint milli qed jghid. " ghandek zball !! dik turik kemm hu baxx u indannat.

Matthew Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 21:01

I've been waiting an calling for a bill for 2 years my friend. Thankfully, I save up for it.

A Spiteri

Dec 16th 2012, 21:57

FYI - I received my bill on Friday (fr sept to oct). Mine are never late. How come you are not receiveing any bills. If you are using the electricty you should pay like I'm paying. Just check

Matthew Grima

Dec 18th 2012, 10:50

I've called, they told me there's a problems with the registration of the water meter and they cannot issue the payment until it's sorted. The issue is their own, and they said so. They've not fixed it yet though. What else can one do?

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:47

so pacifying, you should put it on repeat....like a mantra, it will surely out you to sleep.

Jay Aquilina

Dec 16th 2012, 19:32

tohrog il programm elettorali issa? one il festi tal milied u it teelieqa se tibda fis 7 ta jannar. isma fuq kollox fejn qieghed il programm elettorali tal PN? sew qal franco debono li sew jghamel il PL ma jghid xejn qabel is 7 ta jannar ghax jikkupjaw hafna minnu

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:56

@ Jay Aquilina, nahseb li PN ghandu bzonn jikkopja il programme elettorali tal PL. ilu 25 sena fil gvern. dik l'ezperienza kolla !! try another joke this one was not funny !!

C Cassar

Dec 16th 2012, 22:33

Imma kif tista' ma tindunax Jay li bil-kumment tieghek ma stajtx ma tfakkarnix fil-budget li kkopja l-moviment???

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 19:38

George: Kemm tixtieq li ghanfkhom Kap tal-kalibru ta' Dr. Muscat ? Smajtu lil Dr. Muscat illum ? IPPRUVAJTU TIXTRUH DWAR IZ-ZIEDA TAL- €500 FIL-GIMGHA ! imma qalilkhom " Jiddispjacini ta, imma jien mhux ghal-belgh " !!!! Xempju tal-ONESTA U DETERMINAZZJONI !

Rita Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 19:00

Anglu said so only because Cacopardo said so before him :))

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:34

at least he is trying to mend his leader's mistakes. !!!! you can say that again.
but instead he made the mistakes worse !!

Joseph Grech Attard

Dec 16th 2012, 19:18

In such matters PL supporters might speak a lot, but GonziPN delivers. In matters beneficial to the country in general, GonziPN speaks a lot but PL delivers.

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:43

what has the PL delivered apart from two very different versions of one story ? please enlighten us ....

Donna Parnis

Dec 16th 2012, 20:27

What about your lot, sending letters and emails telling workers that the PL would remove them from their jobs, which is not true, Also your bosses telling workers if they vote PL they would lose their jobs, And Simon telling people to not be afraid to confront people in the grocer if they say anything about PN, To me this is inciting hatred. And this is in 2012, Yes what a hatred party you adore.

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:41

on what channel ? I love a good comedy

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:58

LOL !!

Roberto Fenech

Dec 16th 2012, 21:56

Victor, ghal Labour m'hemm xejn awtomatikament; Jekk lanqas nafu b'kemm, kif, meta, ghal min ser jorhsu il-kontijet, kif tista tghid li l-ilma ser jorhos awtomatikament???

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:59

Pat energy bills are going up all over, not only in Malta, it is inevitable !!

Victor Caruana

Dec 16th 2012, 18:58

L-apologisti tal-PN kollha diska wahda....diska mzarzra u bla sens. Jekk taqra sew l-artiklu, JM wera li dak li qal Farrugia huwa l-istess li qal hu dalghodu. Imma ovvjament, tridu tibqghu tigdbu, bhas-soltu.

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:39

agree with you 100% A Bezzina, they couldnt even agree to say the same thing ahseb u ara kemm they are going to deliver. If labour are voted into power us Maltese best get ready to be the laughing stock of Europe.

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 17:29

Yes, and he has also hit international fame. His suggestions are being copied worldwide (except Iceland and Cyprus). One can watch his promises on youtube also. www.waltzingwaters.com

A Bezzina

Dec 16th 2012, 17:38

LOL ...

Rita Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 18:26

the joke of the day :)

Jo Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 20:02

LOL !!

Reuben D. Spiteri

Dec 16th 2012, 17:53

Vincent jekk l-elettriku jorhos u allura il-prezz biex ihaddmu r-reverse osmosis jinzel, xorta wahda jista jhalli l-prezz kif inhu (jigi iktar qligh)

Imma l-farsa hi din: Mela mhux il-gvern ihallas ghaz-zejt? Tahseb li minn fejn nixtruh ha jaghtuna discount ghax qieghed iwieghed JM?

Allura jew JM ghandu f'mohhu sussidji (li jfaqqa d-deficit), jew inkella lestu ruhkom al taxxi minn wara!

Doreen Attard

Dec 16th 2012, 17:58

Tinstema' biased hafna kontra JM Sur Lia. Nistiednek thares ftit bl-istess lenti lejn Simon Busuttil. Li spin doctors qed ipinguh bhala gdid u tajjeb hafna, imma aktar ma jiftah halqu fil-publiku aktar jidher kemm hu minfuh izzejjed u fil-periklu li jisplodi u ma ssib xejn fih. Meta SB ha hsieb il-kampanja tal-mep's ghal pn qlajtu tkaxkira nobis, meta SB sar vici kap, waqa' l-gvern u issa ?

L Zammit

Dec 16th 2012, 18:39

Ma jafux hux qeghdin f'dinja.

Victor Caruana

Dec 16th 2012, 19:02

L.Zammit, ghax gonzi jaf jekk hux qed jghix f'dinja! Gideb fuq il-kumpanija braziljana, gideb fuq id-data tal-elezzjoni li ma setghetx tersaq 'l quddiem, gideb fuq il-minimum wage, gideb lill-kaccaturi, gideb lil tal-Air Malta, gideb lil tat-tarzna, gideb meta ha 600 ewro minn wara dahar kulhadd u mbaghad lilna qalilna biex naghmlu s-sagrificcji, etc etc. Imma dak qed jghix f'dinja hux?

Charles Busuttil

Dec 16th 2012, 17:52

Ghidli x'ser jitla' super five!

Victor Caruana

Dec 16th 2012, 18:31

U trid tghid li mhux vera kien hemm hofra? Qed issemmi trahhis fl-ahhar, lejliet elezzjoni? Mela mhux qed tghix f'Malta?? Qed taqbez ghall-partit li darba kull hames snin, qabel elezzjoni, jghid li l-finanzi tal-pajjiz fis-sod u mbaghad wara li jitla fil-gvern jghidlek li rridu naghmlu s-sagrificcji. Hallina int Joseph Zahra!

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 17:38

Eddy, I made up my mind yesterday, seeing Anglu's indecision on the water/electricity tariffs. Many Maltese made up their minds back in the 70'- 80's, when they recall that to get good chocolate, we had to migrate to Sicily. Others decided at Tal-Barrani, at the Curia, at Eddie's home', at the Law Courts...... I tried to compare Joseph's speech this morning with Anglu's speech yesterday. Boh!

A Bezzina

Dec 16th 2012, 17:43

Have many better things to do! Thanks anyway!

Mr Joe Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 18:05

In his insignificant career Muscat had several very important issues to stand up and be counted namely EU, Euro, Privatisation, Arab Spring, Libya, Economic model to follow and respite from fuel induced utility costs - HE FAILED THEM ALL MISERABLY and hence is not fit for purpose.

jm busuttil

Dec 16th 2012, 18:19

Eddy we watched Xarabank yesterday and that was just enough to see in what state Pl is. Now

I am off to dinner hope to find some place were to dine and not wait in a queue

George Cutajar

Dec 16th 2012, 18:57

I prefer watching some good movie!!!!!

Mr Joe Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 19:45

Sorry, Eddy, I was watching, but fell asleep.

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 19:48

All you GonziPN apologists : You have now less than 3 months to dream. enjoy your dreams, at least in opublic, since in private you know what awaits GonziPN's clique !

Roberto Fenech

Dec 16th 2012, 21:53

Eddy, if Dr Muscat's greatest speech ever was insulting Dr Gonzi and Dr Busutill and calling them names, then nothing really changed in the Labour Party since Mintoff's and Lorry sants's time...

Quite contradictory to his "Futur li jghaqqadna" slogan, don't you think?

George Cremona

Dec 17th 2012, 01:52

I heard the speech and JM convinced me not to vote for his party which is full of the like of AF.

Jo Grima

Dec 17th 2012, 15:25

@ Eddy......All you GonziPN apologists : You have now less than 3 months to dream. enjoy your dreams, at least in opublic, since in private you know what awaits GonziPN's clique !

is this a threat confirming that nothing from your side has changed ??

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 17:02

If disgruntled Nationalist and floating voters meditate on these guffs by PL, most will surely re-think, if they love their kids. In a few months, PL has had to retrace its steps several times: 1. Minimum wage/living wage(?); 2. civil servant audit; 3. yes/no water/ electricity up/down (?!?)... By 9th March, there will be hardly anything left of the proimises! Is this the promised earthquake?

A Spiteri

Dec 16th 2012, 16:32

Veru tajba din il-link... :)))) Joe ul-PL hawwadni halli jkompli aktar ihawwadni izjed!!! Imnalla Eddy Privitera qieghed fi zmien il-Gvern tal-PN biex qed ikun jista jikteb ghax fi zmienhom lanqas riedu ihalluna nixtru computer ghax jintilfu il-jobs. U hallina Ed Privitera mintiex se tnessina kif konnha tahtkom.

*Joseph Brincat

Dec 16th 2012, 16:41

Reuben Abela when you want to show a clip show it all
for he said as well that when electricity will be reduced
automatically the water will be reduced as well !!

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:55

Thanks Reuben, a great eye opener. They should name this clip "QUO VADIS PL?" Hawwadni ha nifhmek. Nothing new there!

*Joseph Brincat

Dec 16th 2012, 17:00

A Spiteri
If you found that clip interesting which is not the whole truth,
then look at this clip and you will enjoy it more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=liRqgqu-9y4#!

Reuben Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 17:23

* Joseph Brincat .... il punt hu li tant hemm nuqqas ta pjanar li qas anglu farrugia ma kien jaf il pjanijiet tal partit

Reuben Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 17:37

Il kuntrattur ghamel hazin... imma il partit nazzjonalista x tort andu ?

ara vera mandkomx argumenti...

Joseph Parnis

Dec 16th 2012, 17:42

*Joseph Brincat yes i did enjoy this one more but dont think the above did , nice come back and well done

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 17:45

Mr Brincat, who can tell HOW anyone voted? You can say that you voted Red, but vote Blue. The voter is ALONE in the cubicle. Cameras are NOT allowed, and even mobile phones! Let's say someone took a photo of a vote for PN, then he invalids it, asks for another, votes PL, and walks out, showing his employer the photo of the PN vote. Even a six year old can work that up. I hope you are older!

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 19:32

Note - re il video ta Joe Brincat - ma kellux x'jaqsam il-gvern...kuntrattur kien!

robert pace

Dec 16th 2012, 17:10

Do you know your Leader gave me a guarantee in the past election, now i out of work? Who is reliale and who is the liar Mr Sciberras?

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 17:47

Some are out of work because THEY DON't want to work, Robert. In 5 years 20,000 jobs were created. Did you try for one?

Donna Parnis

Dec 16th 2012, 20:36

@joe Borg, love to know where the 20,000 jobs were created, Oh yes, we believe it because Gonzi said so. , Maybe the Brazilian company created the jobs Oh yes, sorry I forgot that company was pie in the sky too. just like the 20,000 jobs. and smart city. and the danish company.

Joseph Parnis

Dec 16th 2012, 17:51

did gonzi and his merry gang promise themslef the 600 euros a week cuz he certianly didnt give me anything but the 1.60 euro a week, what about the promises of the great Sim city oops sorry Smart City what happened to these promises, that is not including all the promises he made just to get your vote. did you fall for these promises cuz i didnt.

A Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 17:53

What is fair Mr Tabone? My family gets 4 euro pw raise while the cabinet got 600 euro. What is fair we have one of the highest cost of living in the eurozone? What is fair we have the second highest utiluty bills in euope? P. We have a high inflation rate, our purchasing power went down by 8.64 euro pw in two years. 88,000 citizens living just below the poverty line. Do u think its fair?

Jo Grima

Dec 17th 2012, 15:30

LOL !!

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 17:35

The last person who cut part of the stipends was Lawrence Gonzi. On record Mr. Martinelli.

G. Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 21:51

Iva veru.

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 17:36

You're truly innovative Antonio Pace. GonziPN work, work WONDERS, lol.

Victor Caruana

Dec 16th 2012, 17:53

Mela rqadt waqt xarabank Robert? Anglu Farrugia qal car u tond ilbierah li l-ilma jorhos awtomatikament meta jorhos id-dawl, l-istess haga kif qal Muscat dalghodu. Naf li Simon iraqqdek meta jitkellem imma pprova ibqa' mqajjem ta ghax terga tiehu zball.

Paul Portelli

Dec 16th 2012, 16:39

joe callejja mela vera ma tafx xinu gvern laburista ta int.gvern laburista dejjem ta lin nies .is-servizzi sociali li ngawdu huma kolla frott tieghu.u certifikat ta dan rajnieh fil funeral ta mintoff.tiftakru il budget ta ahleb gus? jekk ma tafx listorja maltija hu pacenzja aqra lewwel umbad ikkumenta

A Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 19:57

Yes Mr Calleja I am sure it will never happen under the arrogant government of GonziPN. Going to give PL a chance. It's not the end of the world you know. They don't eat children. Need some fresh air and new ideas. Need to put a stop to this arrogance. Even the rising star sounded arrogant yesterday, as if out of stock medicine is the same as out of stock stationery. For them its extraneous!

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 17:38

Very childlish....and you really believe in your poor, childish and pathetic posts as you've posted it three times. I would suggest you follow some basic ICT lessons.

Rita Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 19:24

@Joseph Micallef, you should take lessons in basic sense of humour :) And the repeat postings are the fault of The Times website programmer. It seems you are an ICT expert and should give some advice to the webmaster LOL

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 17:39

U Gonzi iwiegħed il-par idejn sodi.... iggranfati mas-siġġu tal-poter.

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 17:39

Biex qed tiskanta? Simon ma jaqbilx ma Agostinu Piu Gatt f'inqas minn ħames minuti!

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:44

In the 90's, MLP were continuosly bragging about corruption. Then, magic, they come into power, and BRING NONE TO JUSTICE! Luckily they were in power for a misrable 22 months.

Joseph Pavia

Dec 16th 2012, 18:21

U tghid li ma kontx taf kif ha tivvota tarax!

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:41

MLP had GUARANTEED to remove VAT, Eddy, but introduced CET and 33 other taxes. PL's guarantees guarantee NOTHING. They had also guaranteed student stipends. Joseph wanted to guarantee Cyprus' 'success' as well. Luckily, Gonzi proved to be MUCH WISER than Muscat. If not, we would be paupers.

Mr Joe Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 17:09

Privitera inti ixtri hut fil bahar kemm trid. Mhux biss, izda inti kuntent tixtri l'istess hut min ghand min tmellah bik min dejjem u ghal dejjem.

Kuntent int kuntent kulhadd!

Giov DeMartino

Dec 16th 2012, 17:47

Lili biss ma twiegeb qatt, Ed. Kemm jaghtuk fastidju l-kummenti tieghi?

anthony dimech

Dec 16th 2012, 17:33

ghandek forsi ragun titkellem hekk ghaxforsi qatt ma inzilt mis saqqajja lisfel.se irahass il hajja ,id disiel , il petrol ,il medicina ,u kul ma hawn fis suq imma il metalita ta lejburisti fqira kienet u fqira tibqa nigu bil cupuni biex tmur tixtri.viva in koministi.

Jay Aquilina

Dec 16th 2012, 17:59

can you tell me whats in the PN manifesto? i bet no cause its still being written so you pretend that you know whats in the PL one? grow up don't look like a tape recorder my friend.

Jay Aquilina

Dec 16th 2012, 18:00

can you tell me whats in the PN manifesto? i bet no cause its still being written so you pretend that you know whats in the PL one? grow up don't look like a tape recorder my friend.

O Ghigo

Dec 16th 2012, 13:25

Kemm telhli siehbi!!!! Jien ta sena gie 400!!! u l gvern irid jibaghatli l flus lura tal pannelli. Drajna wisq fil fsied. Kellu bzonn jitla l PL halli nitaghlmu naqa tbatija!

Joe Tabone

Dec 16th 2012, 13:34

@A. Abela,
Euro 852 for 6 months, quite a bit. Whatever happens I have no intention of subsiding the utility bills of third parties!

scott brown

Dec 16th 2012, 13:51

852 euros in how many days Mr. Abela. like everyone else i use a washing machine and a tumble drier and use them regularly. i have an electric cooker and oven together with a dishwasher and also use them on a regular basis. i also have an air conditioner and use it diligently. and against all advice i leave my geyser on all the time. on average i pay 150 euros a month.

Mary Camenzuli

Dec 16th 2012, 13:55


Whoever lowers your bill will tax you or someone else for the difference.

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:11

Good point A. Abela. If I were you, I would vote Labour as under GonziPN, it's already clear the prices will go up, this was evidenced by the EU report! It was stated clearly. Under Dr. Muscat, at least, there is going to be a great effort, and it's being pledged, that such prices will go down.

John Caruana

Dec 16th 2012, 14:29

The thought process and assessment of the country's overall need that has gone into your decision is truly staggering....

Joe Scerri

Dec 16th 2012, 14:30

And is that for a whole year?

Paul Zammit

Dec 16th 2012, 14:47

something wrong with your bill ... we're a family of 6 .. and we consume much less. Learn not to be that lavish....

Joseph Vassallo

Dec 16th 2012, 14:49

How and when? It is important to know!

B Ellul

Dec 16th 2012, 14:53

I received by bill last weeek, 23 Euros in Credit. The PN will get my vote :)

Stephen Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 14:57

My bill comes up to € 400 a year. So I guess you should take care of your bills yourself.

Bernard Manduca

Dec 16th 2012, 15:12

At what stage? By how much? For how long? Is this all you're basing your future on? If there are others like you who can blame Muscat for this cheap strategy?

j Azzopardi

Dec 16th 2012, 15:27

just received mine too 85 euros only, saying 852 euos is not going to impress anyone, depends how you use electricity and for how many days.

twanny borg

Dec 16th 2012, 15:28

@a abela - jekk hlejtu halsu siehbi tghid mhux ser inhallasulek jien kif irid joseph muscat!

Joseph Portelli

Dec 16th 2012, 15:36

Sur jew Sinjura A Abela, nahseb li fil-1996 kont tirraguna whoever eliminates VAT gets my vote :)

Christian Sciberras

Dec 16th 2012, 15:46

Sure, vote for me then. I'll turn off the power station permanently. Less costs for me, and a lower electricity bill for you.

C Muscat

Dec 16th 2012, 15:51

PL already manged to lower the bills and I am sure that these will be lowered drastically 20% will be to our saving and anothe 20% goes to the public coffers Inefficiency is all Gonzipn result.

Karl Consiglio

Dec 16th 2012, 15:57

GonziPN are researching alternatives.

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:38

A Abela. It's better to find means to lower YOUR CONSUMPTION, or get one of the many schemes PN devised to help you do that. Subsidies on Solar water heaters, Photovoltaic panels, double insulation..... They are there, but YOU have to get them.

A Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 16:52

@ Joe tabone
I am not a third party Mr tabone, I'm a maltese citizen finding it hard to cope with the one of highest cost of living in the eurozone with the second highest utility bills in europe. And please before you comment at least read properly what is written. iI never mentioned that the bill was for six months. Yes whoever lowers these utuility bills will get my vote. They are unjust!

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 17:02

Mary Camenzuli: U min iberbaq €668 miljuni fi progetti li jispiccaw jiswew ID-DOPPJU ta' l-istima originali, kemm aktar ikollok thallas TAXXI biex tissussidja DAK IT-TBERBIEQ ?????

A Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 17:03

@ Joe M BORG
The main problem with our ultra high utility bills is the inefficiency of enemalta and whoever was administering this white elephant. 25 years in government and we still depend on hfo for our electricity generation. Whoever can all afford the solar panels etc.. go ahead. but others like me who don't even have a roof or the capital? What can we do

anthony dimech

Dec 16th 2012, 17:35

forgot to say for the period of time the bill is my friend.

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 13:28

Tonio Bone: Whatever Dr. Muscat and PL say you will never believe because you are a GonziPN apologist ! You should have heard Dr.Muscat's speech this morning. If you missed it, hear it this evening. Usually its on around 6.30 pm.

Joseph Bugeja

Dec 16th 2012, 14:17

What do you know about 'floaters'? You're not one of them!
How will Labour pan out financially you wrote? The worst it can do is 'borrow' like GonziPN? Or is it only a PN right to do such things? But with finances so 'fis-sod' I am sure that they can be brought to rock bottom?
Don't you agree?

Tonio Bone

Dec 16th 2012, 16:34

Mr Privitera, a comment like that coming from someone like you is not only predictable but utterly indoctrinated, I never said I did not believe I said that if PL wants to win over the floaters votes they need to substantiate the free-flowing promises with factual solutions. This is not a religion, this is finance.

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:34

Eddy, I had intended to hear Muscat this morning, but watching two of his THREE deputies, namely Franco and Anglu, made me look somewhere else.

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 17:05

Joe M. Borg: You are afraid to watch dr. Muscat's speeches because you know that he is far more convincing than LYING LAWRENCE ! You have another chance this evening at 6.15 pm !

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:12

I think your reasoning is entirely flawed.

Mario Buhagiar

Dec 16th 2012, 14:14

well its not flawed if he's determined to invest on renewable energy, or upgrading the system to a cheaper technology. If the PN invested in renewable energy during the past years, the electricity and water bills right now would be much cheaper.

some examples would be: having solar panels on the roof of Mater Dei and wind turbines at Maghtab

Carmel Zammit

Dec 16th 2012, 15:22

I suggest you go about re-reading the article above before putting pen to paper.

P Borg

Dec 17th 2012, 01:11

MLP has been promising that it will reduce the bills NO MATTER WHAT, and I have to go by this since they have TOTALLY FAILED TO EXPLAIN PRECISELY! If you have any precise information or revelation, let us know and we can analyse it! What if all fuel costs shoot up?! Will MLP make a miracle or what?! So please think before putting pen to paper!

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 13:32

A. Spiteri: Jekk ma hawwdekx Gonzi bil-gideb regulari tieghu - Brazil, Paga Minima, Data tal-elezzjoni tal-Kunsilli, " Min jaqla l-paga minima mhux se jintlaqat mit-taxxa ", "Il-prezz taz-zejt $150 il-barmil" etc.. etc.. ma nistax naf kif qed ihawwdek Dr. Muscat !

A.Felix Busuttil

Dec 16th 2012, 14:02

ftit ilu Gonzi qall li min huwa fuq il minimum wage ma jhallasx taxxa.Ftit granet wara Tonio Fenech qall hemm madwar 200 bil minumum wage li se jhalsu taxxa. Hawwadni ha nifhem !!!!!!!!!!!

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:13

Excellent parroting skills. Prosit for repeating what Simon Superman Busuttil indoctrinated to you on Peppi Broadcasting Services

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 15:47

Not only THAT! He also had to re-word the minimum wage gamble, and the civil servant audit gamble. Confusion while still in opposition. Just imagine when in power, with serious problems to face, like Gonzi's problems he faced, namely, internal discord, international credit crunch... If Gonzi was as inconsistant then, as JM is inconsistent now, we would be like Cyprus. Remember Cyprus, Joseph?

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:33

Eddy, Muscat's (and his party's) blunders include minimum wage; civil services audit; electricity, not water, tariffs; Viva Cyprus; Viva Iceland' 'Made in Brussels'......

Kevin Marks

Dec 16th 2012, 13:51

No sorry Vote PN and you will help GonziPn and friends get € 2400 per month increase Again!!

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 13:34

Michael: Nahseb hafna nazzjonalisti qed jghidu lil-GonziPN: " REMOVE GONZ I " and I'll vote for you " !

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:14

If you think Dr. Muscat will be bribed by your wish, thank you, do not vote for us. Vote for GonziPN, I'm sure he will do his utmost to steal your vote.

J Martinelli

Dec 16th 2012, 15:12

He will consult with Alfred Sant, first. CET will follow.

j Azzopardi

Dec 16th 2012, 15:29

forget it, vat will be i increased by muscat to make up for the reduction of electricity bills

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 15:49

Michael, when PL removed VAT, and we destroyed the cash register, they introduced CET, plus 33 other taxes. So don't count on it. And don't throw the cash register away, yet!

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:30

Eddy, did you hear this on OneTV? Or on Disney Channel? Don't drink and write!

Eddy Privitera

Dec 16th 2012, 17:09

J. azzopardi: Taf min zieda l-VAT hux ? Il-PN minn 15% ghal 18 % !

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:14

Ask GonziPN, flimkien kollox possibli hux tassew?

John L Galea

Dec 16th 2012, 15:05

Ask Gonzi for that he knows how to do it...he raised his and those of his close friends by Eur500/week

Mario Farrugia

Dec 16th 2012, 15:30

"yes I promise, as I want to win at all costs" - JM

Carmel Zammit

Dec 16th 2012, 15:30

So far it has been proved that only one has been capable of swelling salaries to your desired tunes. That was Dr. Gonzi when he inflated hes salary and the salary of selected buddies by Euro 600 a week!!!! You are intime to invite him to your kitchen for a chat you never know.......... LOL

Justin Tabone

Dec 16th 2012, 16:04

Ask Gonzi or Simon to promise it.! The are used to faulty promises.

Kevin Marks

Dec 16th 2012, 22:25

No sorry Vote PN and you will help GonziPn and friends get € 2400 per month increase Again!!

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:15

Thumbs up Peppi... JM is the only hope for Malta. GonziPN is the final executor for Malta.

Antonio Pace

Dec 16th 2012, 15:02

I think you missed yesterday's Xarabank, didn't you?

J Martinelli

Dec 16th 2012, 15:19

Peppi, Joseph does not speak of hope and unity. He speaks about hopelessness and division by promising that which he cannot deliver or delivers and you pay. Which is it going to be? Cheaper electricity and new taxes? Free Health & Education or fees and removal of stipends? How can he be trusted if he doesn't even tell YOU, a Labour supporter what his plans are?
Amateur & Shallow politician.

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 15:53

Where do you see hope? In a couple of months, PL have changed ideas three times. Blunder about the minimum wage, blunder about audit in the civil service, and blunder in the tariffs. By election time, what will remain of Joseph's promises. Is THIS the hope you are hoping in?

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 15:56

Peter Pan would have given a better roadmap, Peppi. You forget that even while STILL in opposition, your Dr. has changed his ideas three times. Minimum wage, civil servant audit, and tafirrs. All were blunders. He has plenty of time, till 9 March, for further blunders. Probbly NOTHING will remain from the hundreds of promises on the roadmap.

F A Mercieca

Dec 16th 2012, 14:19

Its the other way round my friend. If you do not vote PN you will become irrelevant !!!

Mario Farrugia

Dec 16th 2012, 15:30

Nice joke Peppi, keep them coming

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 15:57

Gonziu calls you 'irrelevant', while MLP calls you 'traitor'. Take your pick!

J Martinelli

Dec 16th 2012, 15:30

What a cock-eyed theory, Pepp!
Lower electricity means higher consumption which means more fuel to operate the PS. More fuel = higher bills for govt, lower revenue from electricity bills = higher subsidy which means cutting expenses from health & education plus higher taxes. This, of course, unless Joseph starts printing his own euros. Is it that hard for you, Joseph & Scicluna to understand?

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:04

In your frenzy, you missed some OTHER projects PN did to save enegry. Thousands of families bought solar water heaters, photovoltaic systems, wind turbines, replaced their old car ... and all these amount to millions of Euros subsidy given by Gonzi to families who found alternatives. In PL time, 'it was obviou that when VAT went, CET came'. So electricity goes down,but water up! Kapixx?

Victor Pulis

Dec 16th 2012, 17:49

And how will the electricity rates of production (not tariffs) go down? that's what the people want to know.

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:16

Ghandek ragun tibza, ghax jikxfilkom il-qerq u l-inganna kollu jekk jitla il-PL.

Karl Consiglio

Dec 16th 2012, 15:58

Veru, ghax tal-biza jidru

Karl Consiglio

Dec 16th 2012, 16:04

Vera, ghax tal-biza jidru.

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:17

Why are you being astonished. Even Simon voted in favour of divorce against his boss.

Mario Farrugia

Dec 16th 2012, 15:34

The money comes from a good sound economy, the PL does not have a record in history of such, so PL in government is the biggest gamble for the economy and the people

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:07

M Grech, THIS government made a big decision to help get the money, called EU! MLP preferred Switzerland. THAT is the difference. And while almost all bigger, mightier countries around us are on their knees, including Cyprus, and Iceland (Joseph please note), Malta still stands. PL's idea was to get funding from the Alps.

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:18

habba l-ilma jizfen hux.

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:09

Yes, but PREFERABLY for the better, not worse. Since in just a couple of months PL managed to gamble on three topics: minimum wage, social services audit, and electricity, how can they be trusted to keep their promises till 9th March? They have another three months to add to the gambles. Keep it up reds.

Richard Caruana

Dec 16th 2012, 15:10

Planning, you're kidding right?

Day to day strategy is the call of the day, skont id-daqqa nisfnu!

Mr Joe Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 12:30

Go tell it to the marines - but try to be honest!

Richard Caruana

Dec 16th 2012, 12:50

Joseph Muscat has just made short shrift of his second-in-command!

Not that we had any doubts about Dr Farrugia's lack of ability, but to sink this low is abyssimal (sic).

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:19

@ Joe Micallef,

Int bis-serjeta? Tghid mhux se nhallat Dr. Muscat ma Dr. Gonzi fuq l-onesta u s-serjeta? Ix-xemx fejn ix-xita.

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:13

PL promoted unity especially on Friday, when for three hours they had a programme aimed at character assassination towards Simon. Their jealousy for his past successes is indescribable.
It was not Simon who STARTED to promote fear. First it was JM, speaking on minimum wage. Then Helena spoke about civil service audits. And now Anglu and his tariffs. THEY promoted fear.

Martin Saliba

Dec 16th 2012, 15:01

Are you sure hid did or didnt ? Maybe you do not know how one can vote and prove how he / she has voted .

J Martinelli

Dec 16th 2012, 15:46

Corrupt practices, Joseph? You must be joking, right?
Corruption & abuse of current laws is when people receive unsolicited emails without ever disclosing their addresses to the Muscat Labour Party.
There, and we are not going back 30 years when having a computer at home meant an application + fee for an import license! We are talking about what is happening right now Joseph. Labour won't work.

M Gatt

Dec 16th 2012, 12:24

Shame that the role of a prime minister in power is to lead people and thus personal opinions matter. Leave your dream world at look at the facts. Average wage in Malta is lower than it was 5 years ago whilst taxes, utility bills, unaccountability and corruption keep rising. Malta needs a new direction and this direction we need is none other than our dearest JOSEPH MUSCAT!

George Azzopardi

Dec 16th 2012, 12:59

Int bis-serjeta!
Ghandna Priministru li sa hansistra ezatt wara l-budget, anqas kien jaf li dawk tal-minimum wage ihalsu t-taxxa, anqas jaf kemm hu l-prezz taz-zejt, anqas jaf l-ligi elettorali li ghamel hu stess, anqas jaf li kumpanija li qed jiftahar biha ha talaq fl-istess gimgha w li ma gabet l-ebda mpieg f'Malta! Ara veru maqtuwajn mir-rejalta!

Mr Stephen Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 13:20

It is Simon who does not know what is going on because for every question he was asked on RTK he replied that he didn't know. He only knows about his fantasies which are to be in government when Malta is to hold the EU presidency in 2017, for Valetta 2018 and so on because he stated that the Nationalist party has every right to be in government during these events. Is this guy for real.

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:22

M Gatt You are very wrong. 1.Corruption is not rising, but BEING uncovered. In the 90', PL were always attacking PN of corrupt ways, but when in power (thankfully only 22 months), they didn't bring ONE to justice. 2. Taxes are on the DECREASE, as PN REMOVED 25 out of the 33 taxes YOUR PL introduced in 1996-98. 3. All wages have increased yearly, while tax ceiling was adjusted year after year.

Willie Grech

Dec 16th 2012, 12:27

@ Henry S Pace.

There is no contadiction. You can have a good budget (not that this one was) but it would be badly mismanaged by the government. That's why the opposition voted against, like FD did after all. If you need any proof, just listen to FD's speech on Budget day, that' all!!

But I wouldn't be surprised that a PN supporter like you wouldn't understand this after all!!

Alexander Genuis

Dec 16th 2012, 12:50

Semmieli okkazzjoni wahda fejn qatt opposizzjoni gewwa Malta ivvutat favor il-Budget???Int kif tistenna li l-oppposizzjoni tivvota favor il-budget meta WIEHED tal-PN stess ivvota Kontra biex WAQQA l-ewwel gvern fuq Budget mill-Indipendenza 'hawn,tant kellkhom Gvern b'SAHHTU U STABBLI li ridtu l-opposizzjoni TIVVOTA MAGHKHOM!!!!!Franco RIED jivvota MAGHKHOM mhux JOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joseph Vassallo

Dec 16th 2012, 15:02

There is no party in opposition that has ever declared itself to be in favour of a budget!

J Martinelli

Dec 16th 2012, 15:56

@ Grech & Genuis
FD voted against the budget to spite Austin Gatt & the PM who thankfully never gave him a ministry. The NP, when in Opposition, voted against Socialist Budgets because they were antisocial, the most recent of course being doubling the W&E tariffs when oil was being literally given away at $12 a barrel.
So you contradict Joseph's promise to implement this Budget? Was that a lie?

Joe M Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 16:28

Willie. YOUR JM accepted this budget, which, according to you, is not that good. But under Joseph, it will be great!!! Another thing JM suggested a while ago, and thankfully Gonzi, being MUCH WISER, didn't act on, was to copy CYPRUS. Remember? Do you STILL remember what advise Joseph gave Iceland? You should switch off OneTV, occasionally, and give yourself some time to think with your head.

C Baldacchino

Dec 16th 2012, 12:21

Very well said Mr Cremona! Pity that some people are not realising this!

B. Theuma

Dec 16th 2012, 12:22

Or else...better priorities ! That is where money can come from...better priorities!

Charles Cremona

Dec 16th 2012, 12:29

@B.Theuma; I agree that some money could be saved by better project management, however, if the government where to subsidise water and electricity prices we are here talking big money, many millions, its easy to say better priorities but that is guessing, we need facts and figures otherwise its all hot air.

Ruben Mifsud

Dec 16th 2012, 12:42

@ Theuma,
back in 1996/98 priorities were higher utility bills when oil was at 12$ a barrel!!

George Fenech

Dec 16th 2012, 12:47

Well, you do sem to be short sighted! Why doen't the government explain how come all these jobs, turism, GDP growth etc. but then managed to increase National depts to 4 million euros? Something just don't fit in. Pitty the PN finds people like you as their accomplice!

John Doe

Dec 16th 2012, 12:56

Money is coming from the same place that GonziPN is going to find the money for the tunnel between Malta and Gozo, money will also be found from the same place that money was found to give to Greece and from the same place that money will be found to finance Spain.

*Joseph Brincat

Dec 16th 2012, 13:02

@ Charles Cremona What they should tell us is were the money is coming from !!
Don' you think it woud be beater if he tell as where our 6 Billion euros debt has gone Gonzi pn ??

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:21

Money will come from the same source which was used to fill the pockets of your sangi-sugi ministers with 500 euro, to finance the 4x4 vehicle of the renzino's teatru bla saqaf, to finance the ultra-reliable powerstation, to make up for the millions lost in the FAIRMOUNT, to finance next year's ARRIVA's subsidies etc.. want more?

Joseph Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 14:22

Money will come from the same source which was used to fill the pockets of your sangi-sugi ministers with 500 euro, to finance the 4x4 vehicle of the renzino's teatru bla saqaf, to finance the ultra-reliable powerstation, to make up for the millions lost in the FAIRMOUNT, to finance next year's ARRIVA's subsidies etc.. want more?

M Galea

Dec 16th 2012, 12:15

Don't twist the words.. yesterday Anglu Farrugia said that if electrical bills go down, automatically water tariffs would go down as reverse osmosis requires a lot of electricity. So therefore please don't try to test our intelligence!

R. Balzan

Dec 16th 2012, 12:18

Rubbish Jesmond Abela. You better check what the PN will do with the bills if re-elected because the PL has been saying for months on end that the W & E bills will be reduced.

Jesmond Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 12:46

Rubbish !!!! All Malta yesterday heard Dr Angelo....... you didn't? Sorry for you!!!

M Cutajar

Dec 16th 2012, 12:50

Mr Jesmond Abela rest assured that we shall all soon be knowing what PL shall be doing regarding the bills . But you know what ? we all currently know what the PN has done as regards these same bills and other amenities like gas and fuel throughout their legislature - exorbitant prices and tariffs , that is what's sure right now.

M Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 12:17

Why do you think PL didn't want him to show up until they were forced to, after last Friday's huge mess.

Anthony Portelli

Dec 16th 2012, 12:50

ma tantx hemm fejn taghzel!! better the Devil you know naghseb...

R. Balzan

Dec 16th 2012, 12:20

Hi Sandro Gatt - your post this morning takes the cherry for utter stupidity. Please try again.

Willie Grech

Dec 16th 2012, 12:21

@ Sandro Gatt.

Are you sure you are a first time voter and that you decided now to vote PN? Because from your own posts you seem that you are a very staunch PN supporter!!

Sandro Gatt

Dec 16th 2012, 12:28

@ Willie

I will vote PN with honour because i can see the difference, look at Anglu oh my god my younger sister can do better than him!! U ejja mela xi tridu bies taraw id differenza bejn iz zewg partiti...nerga nirrepeti ma tridx tkun avukat nahseb biex taghmel id decizjoni fid 9 ta marzu!! PN because unfortunately there is still no alternative after all these years....

Joseph Pavia

Dec 16th 2012, 13:07

Your use of the word 'Lejburist' alone betrays you of what you are. So please respect our intelligence. Gej bli ma kontx taf lil min ha tivvota. Taf kemm tidhru tac-cajt, biex ma' nghidilkomx xi haga ohra, meta taghmlu hekk!

Willie Grech

Dec 16th 2012, 13:24

@ Sandro Gatt.

Your presumption that we don't see the difference is yet another PN arrogance. Yes of course we see the difference. We see one party who won the 2008 general election by just 1,500 votes and won 35 seats. Now these same seats have gone down to just 32. On the other hand we see another party very unified behind one goal - to make a change for the better!

Karl Consiglio

Dec 16th 2012, 12:35

Ta l-ghageb.

Ivan Mizzi

Dec 16th 2012, 13:40

Very very good good leader.

Jesmond Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 12:12

Did the labour party took any stand about the HONORARIA? NO.

Mr Stephen Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 12:25

Lawrence Gonzi and his cabinet awarded themselves a pay rise of 500euros initially 600euros weekly on our backs whilst Lawrence Gonzi asked us to make sacrifices because of the current economic climate. They deserved it!!!!, come on and get real, even Gonzi recognised they they did not deserve it because he removed it.

Mr Stephen Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 12:26

Lawrence Gonzi and his cabinet awarded themselves a pay rise of 500euros initially 600euros weekly on our backs whilst Lawrence Gonzi asked us to make sacrifices because of the current economic climate. They deserved it!!!!, come on and get real, even Gonzi recognised they they did not deserve it because he removed it.

Sandro Gatt

Dec 16th 2012, 12:37

@ Jesmond Abela

Ghadni kemm dhalt fid dinja tax xoghol u nahdem part time go Lukanda....sploduti bix xoghol!!! Record ta turisti u IVa kien haqqu il 500 zieda fil gimgha min hadem ghal dan ghaliex inholqu aktar xogholijiet, ristoranti u hwienet ziedu fil kummerc allura mhux il 500 filo gimgha igwadajna imma il miljuni....grazzi ta kollox GonziPn!!

M Cutajar

Dec 16th 2012, 12:54

Wow, nice one. I'm glad you were happy and over the moon with the one euro 16cents weekly rise you got when the ministers got their 600 and later reduced to 500 euro weekly. Keep up your good reasoning.

Sandro Gatt

Dec 16th 2012, 13:23

Ha nerga nghidlek mhemm xejn hazin jekk wiehed jiehu xi bonus jew zieda fil paga ghaliex ikun ghamel xoghol tajjeb...jien mhux biss hadd iz zieda li semmejty izda hadt bonuses gimgha wara gimgha ghax xoghol tajjeb li ghamilt mertu tar rekords ta turisti li zaru Malta flahhar xhur......Grazzi GonziPN

Mr Stephen Borg

Dec 16th 2012, 13:24

Sandro you seem to have a short memory. You said that Gonzi and his ministers deserved the 500 euros, initially 600 euros pay rise because they delivered. They delivered a disfunctional Public Transport system, they where responsable for so many contract over runs, they where responsable for the suspension of EU funds in the education sector and yet you say they deserve the pay rise. Are you sure.

Lawrence Zammit

Dec 16th 2012, 13:21

Sandro, When you make such statements you have to be very careful of the words you choose. I am afraid that your last sentence betrays you for what you are. Had you really been looking at what a future Labour government would do, you would never have said '...but Labour never changed'. This means that you had pre-conceived ideas of labour policies rather then an open mind and was 'prejudicat'.

John L Galea

Dec 16th 2012, 16:08

So as your last line gave you out...you are neither a floater, neither a first time voter and the many desperate comments that you have posted show how GOnziPN orchestrated you are. get a life

Matthew Grima

Dec 16th 2012, 20:52

You decided on who you're voting for while typing that comment?

Reuben Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 12:04

i meant water bills

Martin Saliba

Dec 16th 2012, 12:11

There was no mistake , he said that water production used most of the electricity generated and it follows that if is is cheaper to produce water it would reflect on the cost . He was hindered when he tried to explain .

Sandro Gatt

Dec 16th 2012, 12:14

Oh Martin come on it was clear as crystal!!! Another lejburist who cannot see the difference!!

M Micallef

Dec 16th 2012, 12:16

Martin if he knew what to say, I'm sure he would have given us the exact answer. He wasn't hindered, he just didn't have a clue.

Reuben Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 12:19

Martin, you heard what you wanted to hear only ;-)

First he said that they never promised that water bills will be lowered and that they will be only lowering electricity bills, then after god knows what happened during a commercial break he changed his version and said they will be lowering the water bills too.

I'm not saying they they won't do it. I'm saying they have not planned anything.

B. Theuma

Dec 16th 2012, 12:19

The deputy leader of the labour party actually said that since water production requires a certain amount of electricity consumption, water tariffs would automatically be also lowered. Hence if electricity tariffs are reduced, water tariffs would also go down.

Reuben Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 12:28

Anglu Farrugia has no clue at all. Reducing the electricity bills does not imply lower electricity/water production cost.

Only by lowering the cost of producing electricity he can guarantee a lower water bill as well. Since he didn't give any hint of reducing electricity production cost i'm assuming they will simply subsidize heavily, and shifting the cost to some kind of injust tax.

Reuben Abela

Dec 16th 2012, 12:29

What we have now is good, because who wastes pays. What labour is proposing is an incentive to waste.

Sandro Gatt

Dec 16th 2012, 12:30

Regghu zelqu fin nixef!!! Anglu Keep it up!!

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