Stray cat, dog found peppered with shotgun pellets

N De Gabriele

Dec 4th 2012, 08:54

Dear Mr Reece. Before you get the urge to write something down i wish you would stop and think for a second. maybe you'll realize who the real moron is.As many people have pointed out already, it is not only hunters that own shotguns but also weapon enthusiasts.Also i presume you own a knife!So if god forbid there is a stabbing incident,reasoning things out as you do; You should be a prime suspect

keith perry

Dec 4th 2012, 09:25

N De Gabriele: So why would a shotgun owning person who has licence to own one, and lets say uses it for clay pigeon shooting, not hunting, take the weapon out with him with ammunition and wander/ drive around the countryside and then discharge it low enough to hit a dog on the ground.
And the same thing happens in a different area to a cat? No doubt someone will come upwith some daft answer..

N De Gabriele

Dec 4th 2012, 10:37

@Richard Reece - I am not excluding the fact that it may have been a hunter. But it may not have been too. All i'm saying is that people should stop generalizing and pointing fingers as if they know for sure who did it. Unfortunately we live in a world where there are many twisted people such as the person who did this to these poor animals. so it could be anyone!!

James Dewar

Dec 3rd 2012, 22:35

Any legally authorised punishment would be far too good for the evil perpetrator(s) of these crimes. One can only hope that they may in due course suffer some unforeseen happening that would serve as just retribution on behalf of the injured animals.

Emmanuel Ebejer

Dec 3rd 2012, 16:36

Certainly not by shooting at them with a shot gun; or are you in favour of such cruelty!

keith perry

Dec 3rd 2012, 16:58

Does the name ' Star ' ring any bells M cardona?

M. Attard

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:19

Mr Borg, use the same language and actions for those people who are as you say "a nuisance, and health/safety hazard". I am sure you can add many and many more adjective when referring to people. You should condemn the people who did this and not blaming the strays. What a shame.

maria borg

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:22

we need a national campaign to clear all close minded people like you, these animals have a right to live just like anybody else it`s not their fault of being strays
you can start doing something and neuter if you want to see less strays or else offer them a home. for the rest you are right persons who abandon their pets need large fines and prison

Naomi Attard Borg

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:23

Why are they a nuisance?? I'm sure that it was not their choice to end up in the streets!!

Charles Grixti

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:35

I think humans are a nuisance, should we remove them too from the streets? Like the ones that went around shooting innocent animals.

If by removing animals from the street means giving them a proper home and a shelter where they are kept safe and fed, then I agree, but if these means culling these unfortunate creatures, then our society has lost its soul and heart.

Jon Vercellono

Dec 3rd 2012, 16:07

I'm very sorry, but that's how the euthanasia programs started in WWII. We have to respect all forms of life be they animal or human and understand the circumstances which brought them to their present circumstances. Cite your reasons why they are a "health hazard", and others will cite the benefits they provide to the community. Whipping up a frenzy is not way to make a point.

Kevin Pace

Dec 3rd 2012, 17:24

You are showing that you don t know nothing about animals life, how disgraceful you are, so to solve the problem with you if you have a health problem in your life we can clear you from this world. for your info people are learning fast to neuter pets and strays and we have a lot of volunteers making good job outside and indoors. You can start to learn to do the same thing by yourself.

Franco Farrugia

Dec 3rd 2012, 17:50

@ Mr Formosa: Let me put it this way - I do not 'spit hatred' at anyone but I hate violence and so, I hate hunting. I agree with you, yes, that the worst thing to do to animals is abandoning them to their fate. But you have to admit, that since I do not own any kind of weapon (except my writing), I am less of a possible culprit than someone owning a shotgun and able to use it. Don't you think?

Emanuel Curmi

Dec 3rd 2012, 17:51

Dear Mr. Anthony Falzon, for somebody who proudly defends the hunting traditions of the Maltese, you tend to overlook that the hunting instinct can get the better of anyone with a shotgun in their hands. It is indeed extremely difficult for certain people to distinguish where hunting ends and cruelty to animals begins.

mario salnitro

Dec 3rd 2012, 14:48

Are you pointing your finger at someone in particular?
If you have any information you should report the culprit to the police.
You know it is against the law to withhold any information on crime in general.

G G Debono

Dec 3rd 2012, 17:51

mario salnitro

RE “Are you pointing your finger at someone in particular?”

Well I am certainly pointing at somebody who owns a shotgun – as hunters usually do and if I had any information I would, of course, have immediately reported this to the police.

mario salnitro

Dec 3rd 2012, 20:26

Dear Mr Debono it seems you have blinkers on your eyes, not only hunters own shotguns could be you might own one also!!!

Louise Borg

Dec 3rd 2012, 13:30

Haha...very funny....Not! Poor sense of humour

M. Cardona

Dec 3rd 2012, 14:08

Nah, I'd say it was a hip shot at "desperately seeking funds"

Aristide Galea

Dec 3rd 2012, 17:53

First of all , I do not own a shotgun . There are people who own shotguns and are not hunters . So ,how can you be so sure that whoever did this is a hunter . Do you have any proof ? Or are you just pointing your finger just because you are against hunting ?

mario salnitro

Dec 3rd 2012, 14:50

How dare you?
You should be ashamed of yourself .
Most if not all hunters love and cherish their dogs.
WE are licensed hunters not as you wrongly put it.
Shame on you.

M. Cardona

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:08

And some fish killers can't tell the difference between a sustained argument and outright unfounded or false accusations.

If you have any evidence please sustain your argument, otherwise you may find the following link quite informative albeit somewhat challenging;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation

Mr Joe Camilleri

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:45

Although I have read your comment several times, I still cannot make heads or tails of it.

For sure is that you cannot differentiate between a WILD RABBIT and a HARE. So one can imagine how you can differentiate between a huntable bird and a protected bird.

Imn'alla ma ghadekx kaccatur Sur Sultana.

keith perry

Dec 3rd 2012, 16:24

mario salnitro: Has the pointer that was found starving the other day been claimed by his owner? after all ' English pointers don't often appear on the strays list 'Be very interested to know what breed ( if any) this particular dog was that was shot.
Hunters love their dogs as long as they do what they are bought to do - when they no longer are capable what happens? where I am they are thrown out!

mario salnitro

Dec 3rd 2012, 20:31

For the kind attention of Mr Keith Perry.
Today most dogs are chipped especially the hunting dogs since hunters are constantly in contact with the ALE Police.
Most probably were you come from most of the dog owners are not hunters.
Happy Christmas to all!!!

Mr Anthony Formosa

Dec 3rd 2012, 12:46

Sur Busuttil, Kullhadd annimal specjalment dawk li ghandom l'annimali u jabbandunawhom, u hadd ma jiehu hsiebom li generalment jispiccaw imutu mewta kiefra.

fred sammut

Dec 3rd 2012, 12:36

ghax COWARDS !! j ghamlu l arja ma minn ma jistax jideffendu ruhu...... u l QORTI ghanda turi sniena ma dawn in nies, ghalkemm ma tistax isseajah li minn jaghmel hekk nies....

Giov DeMartino

Dec 3rd 2012, 12:42

Ghax meta l-annimali ta' 2 saqajn jinqabdu, naqra rari, lil dawn ma jaghmlulhomx bhalma jkunu mghamlu huma lil ta' 4 saqajn.

Franco Attard Trevisan

Dec 3rd 2012, 12:31

good point!

Mr Anthony Formosa

Dec 3rd 2012, 12:43

Mr Farrugia, anyone can own a shotgun, same as anyone can own a car, I see many cats and dogs hit by cars some accidentally others not. Why not blame who own and abandon the animals in the first place? including yourself.

C Cassar

Dec 3rd 2012, 12:57

Exactly, there is only one large source of shotguns in Malta. The fact that owners of these weapons have licences doesn't stop them being used illegally.

E Schembri

Dec 3rd 2012, 13:04

In Malta, nothing is ever done about anything.

Not even human victim get justice, let alone animal victims!!

Mr Anton Portelli

Dec 3rd 2012, 13:10

Owning a Shotgun does not make criminals. I fully agree with you the act is atrocious but the insinuation that shotgun owners do these kind of things does not make much sense. You have a number of examples - recently the stray cat saga and some time ago various cruel acts like hanging animals, crucifying them, throwwing them into the sea etc.
So please do not throw mud at shotgun owners!!!!

M. Cardona

Dec 3rd 2012, 14:07

C Cassar, if you have any further knowledge on the case please divulge otherwise just shut up for once with your constant unfounded accusations leveled at your pet hate. You are constantly preaching nonsense and your hatred is simply becoming unbearable to anyone with an inkling of common sense.

Darren Caruana

Dec 3rd 2012, 14:16

Franco.
Jmissek tisthi titkellem hekk!!!

Are you insinuating that I did this?? looking forward to know.
Cause i own a shotgun. 3 actually. I also own a 9mm pistol.
All legally. What is the problem?

Victor Borg

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:01

To Darren Caruana:

I find it unsettling that people are allowed to own guns, whether shotguns or pistols or what have you. A civilised society does not need to permit civilians to own guns. So, yes, I believe that gun ownership for civilians should be banned outright, and any shooting whatsoever declared illegal. Then we can have better peace of mind, and a safer environment.

M. Cardona

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:16

@ Victor Borg,

it would take much more than the word limit to expose how fallacious your argument really is. However you may wish to read up on statistical facts as opposed to conjectures.

William Attard McCarthy

Dec 3rd 2012, 15:24

Darren, can you enlighten us uneducated readers as to which reason you may need to own 3 shotguns and a pistol?? Zombie apocalypse, perhaps??

keith perry

Dec 3rd 2012, 16:30

Mr Anton Portelli : What a strange comment you make - here we talk of a dog and cat shot by a person or persons unknown... will you concede that to inflict such injuries and be peppered full of pellets from a 12 bore cartridge requires a SHOTGUN sir?
So your last remark is somewhat wanting in explanation.

Franco Farrugia

Dec 3rd 2012, 17:47

@ Mr Victor Borg: Well said. I rest my case.

James Dewar

Dec 3rd 2012, 22:28

@ Anton Portelli: Are you therefore suggesting that the perpetrator of these horrendous crimes was not a shotgun owner but somehow "acquired" the weapon to carry out the attrocities.

@ Darren Caruana: I would see the problem as being the justification and reason for you owning all of these weapons.