Power station extension delayed for up to six months after turbine damage - Marsa takes over
Enemalta refuses partial hand-over - Heavy penalties to be imposed on BWSC
The handing-over of the Delimara power station extension has been delayed for up to six months because of major turbine damage, Finance Minister Tonio Fenech announced this morning.
As a result the extension has been shut down and Marsa power station has been fully reactivated.
BWSC will be heavily fined and the case may go to court.
Speaking at a press conference in Delimara this morning, the minister said Enemalta would not accept a partial hand-over of the extension from BWSC and would only accept the full hand-over once the steam turbine which suffered major damage a week ago was re-installed and full reliability tests were run.
Mr Fenech said the damage could delay the project for up to six months, but Enemalta would not accept a partial hand-over involving the diesel engines.
He said the plant had run reliably for 30 days but it would now not be able to operate once the damaged turbine was removed.
Mr Fenech said penalties would be imposed on manufacturer BWSC and the government was taking all legal action. In terms of the contract it would seek €1.6 million in damages for every week of delays until the plant was handed over as well as other damages which Enemalta would suffer.
He said the delays meant Malta would spend more on fuel because it would have to again make full use of the Marsa power station. Four turbines had been shut down in Marsa while the extension in Delimara was running.
Mr Fenech said using Marsa once more would also mean higher emissions and thus more penalties from Mepa - which BWSC would also be required to meet.
Mr Fenech said this was a delicate state of litigation and the government would present a strong legal case in court if required. The government would safeguard its rights while it would also work with BWSC to ensure that the power station was delivered as early as possible, but when it was fully reliable.
Mr Fenech said the extent of the damage caused to the turbine was still being assessed. Experts were also investigating whether a stop valve was wrongly installed (by BWSC) or whether this had been a manufacturing fault.
(The failure happened when the valve failed and parts were sucked into the turbine, damaging it).
Mr Fenech said the turbine was not a prototype but the combined cycle equipment.
He said the damage could not be revealed earlier by Enemalta until it examined the turbine and then considered its legal and technical position. It was only yesterday that BWSC said that the turbine would need to be removed. It may need to be replaced.
See reactions at http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121020/local/delimara-fault-is-symptomatic-of-government-failure-pl.441878
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Mr CHARLIE BORG
Oct 21st 2012, 03:33
So Joseph Muscat was right BWSC were the wrong choice,now who is going to be held politically responsable for this mess ?...as usual nobody.
E. Azzopardi
Oct 21st 2012, 00:18
We need a reliable power station and not imposing heavy fines and going to court. This will not solve our power output problems!!
That is why one should always buy proven machinery.
Mr C Camilleri
Oct 20th 2012, 23:48
Hallas GAHAN ! Ghax issa gibna l-experts li jifhmu hafna hafna u jafu jithallsu iktar !
Andrew Cumbo
Oct 20th 2012, 23:09
Smart City it is going to generate 6000 jobs. Mater Dei state of the art hospital that cost us almost €700 million and today we are looking to hire/ buy another hospital to have more beds. Arriva said to end the “buzullotti “era and the bendy buses are daily in the news. Now the BWSE power station failed in the running in process. IT IS THE PN THAT WON’T WORK
Charles Caruana Carabez
Oct 20th 2012, 21:12
Does this mean higher tariffs? That's the bottom-line concern for us.
P Mangion
Oct 20th 2012, 20:17
Poor nation. One or a few enjoy the €4m commission while the rest of the nation has to make good both healthwise and moneywise for don't know how long! We look forward for PL and its expert in this field Dr. Konrad Mizzi to set things right for the benfit of all.
P Mangion
Oct 20th 2012, 20:16
Poor nation. One or a few enjoy the €4m commission while the rest of the nation has to make good both healthwise and moneywise for don't know how long! We look forward for PL and its expert in this field Dr. Konrad Mizzi to set things right for the benfit of all.
P Mangion
Oct 20th 2012, 20:16
Poor nation. One or a few enjoy the €4m commission while the rest of the nation has to make good both healthwise and moneywise for don't know how long! We look forward for PL and its expert in this field Dr. Konrad Mizzi to set things right for the benfit of all.
joseph gaffarena
Oct 20th 2012, 20:06
It is not a paprata, we have to be honest to ourselves.These turbines are a state of the art, but who knows maybe when the workers were installing the main steam valve they damaged it , this can easily happen.Another reason is that a bold or nut may have been left in the main inlet pipe. Our delimara station is of a very high standard,so pls let us be more realistic.
Guido Farrugia
Oct 20th 2012, 21:35
Yes indeed Mr Gaffarena, Let's all be more realistic and call a spade a spade. A flop is a flop is a flop. U mela gej bil" who knows maybe workers"
Noel Abela
Oct 20th 2012, 20:02
U il buzzullotti ta' Austin Gatt ikomplu.
joseph gaffarena
Oct 20th 2012, 19:57
Peppi Borg, those turbines that dom mintoff brought , were in such a bad way that we had to give them a major overhaul, costing us thousands of liri, better if they were never been imported to malta cause they were good only for scrap.
When you do not know about this matter , it is better to leave your mouth shut
joseph gaffarena
Oct 20th 2012, 19:53
At our malta drydocks we used to change high pressure steam turbine blades.If the main inlet valve was damaged, than parts of the casting went inside the turbine and caused all that damage.
I, cannot see why a new turbine under guarantee cannot be changed in full.
If they are going to change the first rows, im more than sure that the other blades have been slightly damaged as well.
mark borg
Oct 20th 2012, 18:57
paprata ohra !
Peppi Borg
Oct 20th 2012, 18:33
Not even the much criticised Mintoff's powerstation ever had to stop for 6 long months. THe latter is still working!
Giov DeMartino
Oct 20th 2012, 18:32
Issa isbah Wehel il-gvern ghax magna gralha l-hsara!
Andrew Cumbo
Oct 20th 2012, 22:45
Le, x'kull waħda wkoll, mela min tridu jeħel Sur De Martino? Mhux il- Gvern għamel tajjeb għall dan il- fjask fjaskun min butna? Għax ma tamettux li kull ma jagħmel u jmiss b' idejh Il- Ministru Austing Gatt inpattu għalih qares, Smart City, Arriva u issa il- Power Station tal- BWSE.
Reuben Cutajar
Oct 20th 2012, 18:22
wow.... excellent policies on energy and excellent service provided by this administration right? I wonder what's next to go wrong on their watch...
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 20th 2012, 18:17
J'alla Austin ikollu l-istess success b'dak li qed jipprepara ghal elezzjoni li gejja daqs kemm kellu, fl-art tal-Qawra, Il-pompa ta' Smart City, il-Fairmount, l-Arriva, it-tebut b'xejn u l-power station. GonziPN can't work.
Jon Briffa
Oct 20th 2012, 17:17
fail after fail and we continue to pay
m. borg (slm)
Oct 20th 2012, 17:14
So finally the truth unfolds.
PL wasn't making an issue out of nothing when it opposed the BWSC project which proposed a proto type installation , that is an untested system.
Again millions down the drain into the wrong pockets
Edward Mallia
Oct 20th 2012, 18:10
Regrettably the "untested" system is the PL insistence on using the term prototype. The diesel engine was invented around 1900; the original steam turbine was Hero of Alexandria's toy sometime BC. And there are numbers of similar systems generating electricity at the moment (see yesterday's L-Orizzont m.borg (slm)). The only "new" feature in 'our' system is the simultaneous removal of SO2 and NOx
B Testa
Oct 20th 2012, 16:54
And this happened only during testing. What would happen in case this was working at full levels? Wow wise decision for going for a new technology!!!
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 20th 2012, 16:52
Rekord iehor dinji ta' GonziPn. Power Station gdida fjamanta taghlaq qabel ma tibda tahdem.
Joseph Muscat
Oct 20th 2012, 16:41
Wasn't it supposed to be the other way round, that is Marsa power station was meant to be closed. May I ask as a Maltese citizen who is going to shoulder the political responsibility of all this mess. State of the art my As..
M Saliba
Oct 20th 2012, 16:34
Dizastru wara l-ieħor u kulħadd iwaħħal f'dembu. Varist kellu raġun fuq id-bWsC
Ronnie Callus
Oct 20th 2012, 16:34
Sitt xhur ohra Tonio ??? Mela tkun qorbot l-elezzjoni. Proset tassewTonio kemm int tajjeb.
Ronnie Callus
Oct 20th 2012, 16:07
Imbad jigi jghidilna Dr.Gonzi u ohrajn li ahna l-ejra ta' pajjizi ohra. Falliment wiehed fuq l-iehor qed ikollna, bdejna b' Mater Dei, wara l-Arriva, issa l-Power Station u imbaghad irid jigi jifferma kuntratt ta' Mini Hospital- St.Philips minghajr skruttinju tieghu fil-Parlament. Mhur ghafdahom eh. Mela l-ewwel nixtri l-oggett imbaghad niccekkjah wara ! mhux hekk.Morru ghiduwilhom lil Ewropej.
R Axisa
Oct 20th 2012, 17:22
I wonder who doesn't work!
Chris Sciberras
Oct 21st 2012, 11:09
Sur Callus, int wiehed minn dawk li meta tmur tixtri tkun cert 100% li hadd mhux se jidhak bik. Jekk tmur tixtri TV tghidlu jippruvah mela ghalfejn qeghda l-garanzija? U jekk tixtri toaster tiehu l-hobs mieghek?
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 20th 2012, 15:57
Halli naraw issa liema membru parlalmentari ser jithaq bina fuq il-praspura tal BWSC model imzanzan mil maltin.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Oct 20th 2012, 15:43
U tal-Marsa se tinghalaq ! Mur emmen.
Monica Galea
Oct 20th 2012, 15:36
Back to square one!!!! Din ix-xitwa nistennew xebgha qtuh ta' dawl. Dak li weghduna fuq din estensjoni tal-power station sfuma fix-xejn.
G G Debono
Oct 20th 2012, 15:34
we bought a pig-in-a-poke --- in a hurry after moving the goal-posts to let it through.
Now the piggy has beri-beri and will need 6 months to get better.
After which it will get appendicitis etc etc etc .
Edward Mallia
Oct 20th 2012, 18:01
Not a good medical diagnosis George. The goal posts were moved only because of the fixation of HFO use and the consequent need to remove SO2; gasoil use in both piston engines or the alternative large "gas" turbine would still have required NOx removal, as with the contribution from IC engines we are exceeding set limits.
And six months to re-blade a small turbine does seem excessive.
Edward Mallia
Oct 20th 2012, 15:24
Can Minister Fenech produce a statement by a reputable engineer as to why the Delimara extension (136MW)cannot be run independently of the 'toy' steam turbine (10MW)? The only connection between the two is that the engine exhaust, on its way out of the chimneys, is used to heat water in a boiler to raise steam for the turbine.
We should know if the real reason is financial rather than otherwise.
Manwel Sinagra
Oct 20th 2012, 16:31
This is a valid point.
francis x caruana
Oct 20th 2012, 14:42
have gonzi pn forgoten how much they called all sorts of names mintoff and the labour goverments for using second hand equipment. Afrer all these years it is still working better then the delimara power plant. AND ONCES MORE WE ARE GOING TO USE IT TO FULL POWER. it hardly cost nothing to rebuilt andnow with all those millions down the drains or some where else we back to square one.
Joe Grech
Oct 20th 2012, 14:29
OOOH Nooo.not again!!!!
Kien intqal li din il-power station kienet ser issir prova ghal-kumpanija. izda l-poplu go halsu madwar 160 miljun euros lill din il-kunpanija. Min ha l-commission mar (marru) tajjeb u mhux il-poplu, kien intqal li din din ma kienetx wahda zghira. Il-poplu issa irid igorr piz iehor tal-penali li aktarx ser ikunu imposti fuq Malta mil-Unioni Ewropeja.
G G Debono
Oct 20th 2012, 14:08
Well,
we bought a pig-in-a-poke --- to make matters worse it was bought in a hurry after hurriedly moving the goal-posts to let it through.
Now the piggy has beri-beri and will need 6 months to get better. ----after which it will get appendicitis etc etc etc .
The whole business stank from the start....
Robert Lewis
Oct 20th 2012, 14:01
Mr Baroso told Mr Dalli that he has 30 minutes to resign on something which is still being investigated, although Mr Baroso is not that stupid to act in this way, he must know of something which we don't know about. And then on the other hand we have all these omlettes and nobody resigns. I think Mr Fenech the fines you mentioned will be paid in cash, x'tahseb.
Peter Agius
Oct 20th 2012, 13:55
Ftit xhur ohra u kollox nirrangaw. Malta tibda tahdem b'mod perfett. La jkollna hsarat, la hbit bil-karozzi, la serq, la frodi, la qtil. Kollox jibda jahdem kif suppost. Mhux naqra fadlilna. Heqq, nissaportu.
Joseph Bugeja
Oct 20th 2012, 15:43
Same speech you made in 1987 I reckon! So it's only bad when the party you don't support is the culprit.
Tony Borg
Oct 20th 2012, 19:08
if Labour is elected they will have one hell of a job, sorting out the disasters they will inherit, sorting out the finances of this country, and correcting a few injustices. I do hope that you do not expect everything done in 3 months. The impossible can be done, but miracles take a bit longer.
Andrew Cumbo
Oct 20th 2012, 23:21
Jekk ftit ta' xhur ohra il- PL ikun fil Gvern zgur mhux ha nkunu laqa u nibilaw dak kollu li jghidu il- hafna konsulenti li thallsu il- miljuni min fuq daharna. Zgur ukoll li mhux ha nberbqu il-miljuni f' xi perit barrani bhall ma ghamel il- gvern tieghek ghall bieb il- Belt. Il- PL ghandu il-fiduwccja fil- kapacitajiet tal Maltin. U flus il- polplu mhux ha jberbaqom bhall li kieku huma flusu.
John Zammit
Oct 20th 2012, 13:55
When any steam turbine is hit by something the damage that it cause is enormous. The minister said that Enemalta will take partial take over. The person that signs for such a take over is putting himself as the lamb of sacrifice if something else develops in a short time
cesco di luigi
Oct 20th 2012, 13:51
I think the words that will haunt Austin Gatt till his final days " Zmien il-buzulotti spicca". I learnt a lot from this myself. Be more modest in your relations with fellow human beings...even bus drivers.
Once again the prophet was Franco Debono..the only guy who had the courage to speak up about this mess.
David Magro
Oct 20th 2012, 17:49
Luigi, it was the Pl was stood up against the contract of BWSC and Franci voted for it at that time. I refresh your memory that the Gonzipn tried to make the mikey of Joseph Muscat. Even now, if it was`nt for PL we would not have known of this failure!
Angelo Polidano
Oct 20th 2012, 13:44
We certainly have many patriots in Malta, as soon as something goes wrong even by foreign entities the blame is shifted on to the government.
Mr Albert Dimech
Oct 20th 2012, 15:16
Who went ahead and refused to listen to almost everyone, not to go with BWSC?
Angelo Polidano
Oct 20th 2012, 13:35
I do not understand what GonziPN has got to do with all this. The Maltese Government bought something presumeably under warranty and part of it went wrong while being commissioned. The supplier is going to make good and be heavily penalized. What the anti's ought to look at is when a member of parlament suggested to bring in independent experts to witness the performance and reliability.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 20th 2012, 13:20
Li tberbaq flus haddiehor ma jfissirx li qed tamministra sew. Mhux ta' b'xejn GonziPN jaghmel kollox fil-mohbi. Se jtellawlna l-pressjoni sew dawn il-frejjeg kollha.
Joseph Micallef
Oct 20th 2012, 13:13
What a shame on GonziPN. And they make fun of Dom Mintoff's government for buying a second hand powerstation from Sicily. Funnily enough, the same second hand powerstation has ever become a dependable power station, a powerstation for a complete piece of mind, and this has been for almost 40 years!!! And the, supposed, new power stations, have become a nightmare!! Shame on GonziPN!!
Ronnie Callus
Oct 20th 2012, 13:11
Sew jghidulkom Sur.Gvern mill-hazin ghall aghar. Il-Power Station tal-Marsa li wkoll kont tghajru lil Gvern ghax second-hand ukoll ma' kellhiex dan it-trouble kollu u tatna servizz iktar milli stenejtu inthom. Proset Dr.Tonio, veru mhux se' jidher id-duhhan ghax wieqfa. Ma' tistax tigikom wahda tajba.
Johan Grech
Oct 20th 2012, 13:09
Austin Gatt and his close friends have committed grave mistakes over the past 4 years and yet he does not even have the decency to resign.
ARROGANCE at its best.
R. Gauci
Oct 20th 2012, 13:06
Fenech Adami fl-1987, qabel l-elezzjoni, kien qalilna li l-power station tal-Marsa kienet spiccuta, kollox second hand, racanc u li jekk ma jitlax hu se nispiccaw bla dawl sakemm jibni ohra, ghaddew 25 sena min dakinhar u ghadna niddependu minnha.
Ramon Mangion
Oct 20th 2012, 12:59
fejnom issa dawk li hargu jghidu li PL kien qieghed jigdeb ????..... froga ohra ta' GonziPN
Colin Camilleri
Oct 20th 2012, 12:50
Irrizenjaw u elezzjonijiet generali ISSA!
A. Mizzi
Oct 20th 2012, 12:47
CERTIFIKAT iehor ghal Dr. Lawrence Gonzi u l-Kabinett b'talenti limitati li ghandhu, ghal konsulenti tieghu, tmexxija u Bordijiet tal-Enemalta u min appunthom, u kull min iddefenda u appogga il-Kuntratt tal-BWSC u l-ghazla tal'Heavy Fuel Oil..... u l-€4miljun commission marbutin mieghu !
Xorta hadd ma hu ha jiehu RESPONSBAILITA?
Edward Mallia
Oct 20th 2012, 12:42
The Extension has ONLY ONE turbine: a steam turbine working off the 8 engine exhausts. Power:10MW vs 136MW of the 8. The Combined Cycle GAS Turbine at Delimara has two "gas" turbines using gasoil, and a steam turbine using their exhaust: 37MW from EACH turbine. The assertion that the Extension cannot operate without the steam turbine needs to be explained by an engineer rather than an accountant.
Anthony Mizzi
Oct 20th 2012, 12:39
Appointing Dalli seemed correct at the time – PM
Gonzi focuses on replacing commissioner
- The same goes on the choice of BWSC for the Delimara Power Station and the PRIME MINISTER should focus on repacing!
Godwin Dalli
Oct 20th 2012, 12:35
I would like to know who is accountable for this mess. Now I am really fed up with all these news items. As I always state we are a mickey mouse country - fejn hu John Bundy?
ANTHONY PAVIA
Oct 20th 2012, 12:28
So Mizzi was right. Let us see Government and PN members that got huge chunks of this contract wriggle their way out of this one. Gonzi, miskin, simply cannot find any peace.
Louis Craus
Oct 20th 2012, 12:21
Din kien jonqos issa. Falliment totali,..........f'kollox.
Zarmaw please. Sahha lil Marsin kollha.
A. Mizzi
Oct 20th 2012, 12:49
Min kien qal li sejjer jghalaq il-power Stion tal-Marsa fin 1987?
Min ghadu lanqas hallas il-Power Station ta ' Delimara?
Min qieghed ihallas ta' dawn l'inkompetenzi u inkompetenti?
AHNA, ULIEDNA U ULIED ULIEDNA qedin u jkomplu nhalsu ghal inkompetenzi ta' GonziPN , PN & Co.!
Kenneth Williams
Oct 20th 2012, 12:14
Ghad baqalna x inhallsu jew il BWSC thallsu ta kollox????
m. borg (slm)
Oct 20th 2012, 17:20
Bhal ta' SKANSKA li l-gvern purcinell nazzjonalista halashom kollox bil-patt li jibnu sptar tal enkologija u iehor ta' righabilitazjoni u spiccajna l-ewwel wiehed niebnuh ahna ghas spejjez taghna u l-iehor nikruh minghand bazuzlu li ghandu bzonn salvawomor ghaliex ghandu €12-il miljun dejn.
Anthony Pace Gouder
Oct 20th 2012, 12:12
Fjask wiehed wara l-iehor ................... Miskin Gonzi-pn ?.............. Le. miskin il-Poplu Malti u GHawdxi .
Kenneth Williams
Oct 20th 2012, 12:11
Jekk qlibna fuq tal marsa il BWSC ser ihallsu il multa li qed inhallsu fuq il power station tal marsa...ghax ma smajtux isemmiha lil ministru
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2012, 12:11
Was about to tell Lil elves to be ashamed of themselves, but given their allegiance, it's a given like saying butter is a dairy product!
I'm interested to know in what shape or form is the government or enemalta responsible for this major national problem!
Julian Borg
Oct 20th 2012, 12:07
Cannot wait for Joseph Muscat to run this country and eliminate all possibility of mechanical fault in every part of the island's operations!
A. Mizzi
Oct 20th 2012, 12:51
Kullhadd f'Joseph Muscat jattama fis-sieghe tal-bzonn!
Isem Gonzi ma jissemghax!
Sur Julian Borg, isa li tqassam il-Yellow Pages il-gdid, ara issibx il-xi hadd jirranga din i-hsara!
YELLOW PAGES.........YELLOW PAGES............. YELLOW PAGES............YELLOW PAGES
Mr Mike Farrugia
Oct 20th 2012, 13:01
He might not be able to prevent faults anywhere but I am sure he would not have paid in full for a half baked project.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 20th 2012, 13:17
GonziPN can't work!
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 20th 2012, 13:25
Ok ok you might, just might have something here, BUT by jove whatever the pn make (and they call them state of the art!) comes crumbling down. It's like they have the touch of Midas BUT whatever they touch turns into dust! Not gold.!
Eddy Privitera
Oct 20th 2012, 14:27
Jukian Borg: The contract given to B.W.S.C. was given by GonziPN. And it was reeking of corruption. Dr. Muscat, if elected to govern will have to carry the burden of GonziPN's grave mistakes !
Mr Albert Dimech
Oct 20th 2012, 15:17
Labour warned about this, so you just have to admit, that they were right after all.
Ray Buhagiar
Oct 20th 2012, 15:17
Mr Privitera...diga bdejt tizkuzah?
John Zarb
Oct 20th 2012, 12:05
Froga wara ohra. Suppost kollox kellu jinbena bhala "state of the art" imma kollox jitkisser wara ftit gimghat!!!!!
Dan hu serq flus il-poplu. Suppost il-buzullotti kellhom jispiccaw minn dan il-pajjiz!!!!! Where is Austin to answer on the BWSC??????
Eddy Privitera
Oct 20th 2012, 11:57
Rajtu x'garalkhom ghax bilfors ridtu tghatu l-kuntratt lil B.W.S.C. ? U lil dak li ha €4 miljuni commission se titolbuh ithom almenu nofshom lura ?
U HEKK se jigrilkhom bil-kuntratt ta' St. Philip's Hospital ! Kieku Mizzi ma kixifx bir-ritratti, kontu tibqghu ghaddejjin !
Marija Falzon
Oct 20th 2012, 11:51
Resignations, anyone? Anywhere?
Emmanuel Cachia
Oct 20th 2012, 11:41
Mamma mia! What a mess
andrew falzon
Oct 20th 2012, 11:29
@ J Busuttil
tkomplix iddahhakna u tipprova iddahhal lill- PL f` din il- froga li ghamel il- gvern tieghek. Il- PL minn dejjem wissa lill gvern kontra dan l- impjant u fuq l- intricci u il- korruzzjoni li kien hemm biex intghazlet il- BWSC izda il- BULLY ried jibqa ghaddejj akkost ta kollox. Din hija musmar iehor fit-tebut ta gonzipn, fejn huma dawk responsabbli? Tal misthija!!
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 20th 2012, 11:24
Sejrin tajjeb l'ewwel il-BWSC, wara l'Arriva, issa St. Philips, it-tunnel f'mohh Austin, lis-stragi ta' bieb il-belt, Airmalta inhattet, addio Dockyard, Seamalta u ohrajn dejn ta' 6 billjun u nofs milljun interessi kulljum. Gonz kif tpoggi rasek fuq l'imhadda bil-lejl u torqod. Ghandek l-isbah programm ghal-elezzjoni li gejja.
Ronnie Callus
Oct 20th 2012, 13:16
Veru Sur.Fenech ma' nafx kif jorqod bil-lejl bdawn il-problema kollha. Kollhox miexi fuq irrubini kien qalilna. Nahseb ahjar li qal li kollhox miexi aghar rihu. Pajjiz gabuh gharkupptejh u ta' dan ghandhom jinzammu responsabbli minn gvern iehor.
Charles Massa
Oct 20th 2012, 11:18
Froga ohra tal PN u imnalla kien Joe Mizzi li kixef dan id dizastru ghax kieku kien jibqa kollox mistur. Kemm ftahar il ministru li se jkolna power station gdida, imma diga bdiet fuq sieq hazina, u dan minbarra li tahdem bil heavy fuel oit. Il ministru ghandu jkollu dicenza li jirrizanja
j brincat
Oct 20th 2012, 11:15
@J Busuttil
"j.b"
When we get independent experts you cry out that these are not needed as we have experts in Malta and so a waste of money. When we use our experts you cry out the contrary.
Ara veru Labour wont work"
Then you don't have an inkling what 'an independent' means. Ever heard of conflict of interest?
But you insist in your parrot-like fashion repeating what say.
(jb)
B Ellul
Oct 20th 2012, 11:32
@j brincat
Can you give us ALL a break and stop commenting? Is there a price for the most stupid comments going on? If yes, just get the price and stop.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Oct 20th 2012, 11:14
I would be of interest to all Maltese citizens if the conditions of contract are made public....
Bertrand Gove
Oct 20th 2012, 12:35
they are.
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 20th 2012, 11:13
Gonz ghandek il-power stattion li xtrajt minghand il BWSC bil hsara u ghandek il-Barroso li qed jipprova iwahhalulu lil John Dalli u qatt ma qbist ghalieh.
R. Balzan
Oct 20th 2012, 11:07
And yet another super omelet - what we Maltese refer to as "froga" - by GonziPN. As the popular saying goes: "you reap what you sow".
Ray Buhagiar
Oct 20th 2012, 11:35
u ghaliex froga? Qisu qatt ma tigri hsara f'darek jew pajjizi ohra. Xi zmien ilu tunnel bejn Franza u Ingilterra kien maghluq minhabba xi hsarat. Din wkoll super Froga.
Eve Axiaq
Oct 20th 2012, 11:06
X'kanna se nibilghu meta jkun hemm il handover. Ghax spejjez ikunu kollha ghalina. Fuq din biss Austin Gatt ghandu jirrizenja minnufih. Dan bhal meta tixtri karozza gdida u tamel il hsara u tkun ghadha bil garanzija.
Ray Buhagiar
Oct 20th 2012, 11:36
X'ghandu x'jaqsam handover ma garanzija. Int jaqaw engineer?
George Calleja
Oct 20th 2012, 12:10
Kif qed tirraguna int, dak li jixtri karozza u jinqalghalha l-hsara u tkun tant il-garanzija, tort ta min xtara l-karozza!! Tajba din!! Ghax mhux tort ta min biegh il-karozza. Il-garanzija ghadha hemm u l-gvern se jiggieled ghad-drittijiet tieghu
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2012, 13:00
Pathetic but it does give away your sheer baselessness. So I buy a car from an established car maker which goes bust during running in, and god bless all souls, I am held responsible!!
Ta dahk kieku mhux tal biki!
Hector Buttigieg
Oct 20th 2012, 11:05
What a mess. The general public always suffers in such matters. BWSC is devious company because it knew the turbine was faulty and if the Enemalta experts did not notice it, we would have a faulty Extension. But now we all know why BWSC was chosen to built our extension.
A Vella
Oct 20th 2012, 11:04
I am sometimes tempted to give Labour a chance, but then I see people arguing as these gentlemen below and get scared of being one of them.
Michael Bonello
Oct 20th 2012, 10:58
Why can we never get something in order we always end up paying out of our tax money as if nothing has happened nobody in this country takes the responsibility of the damage only when we inaugurate something new that we get ministers posing for a photo but when something goes wrong no one is responsible we blame someone else
john muscat
Oct 20th 2012, 10:41
What would have we done if we did not have the much criticised Marsa power plant???Those are surely good turbines.
John Mifsud
Oct 20th 2012, 10:40
Some people in authority should hide their faces when facing the electorate, if they still have any dignity left in their veins.
J Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 10:40
Mizzi or no Mizzi this failure would still had to be published . Joe Mizzi was one step ahead as he had his labour informers who gave him all details when the investigation was still under way. Typical Labour l-ewwel il -voti
Vincent Cassar
Oct 20th 2012, 10:48
Comments like yours Mr Busuttil are utter unbelievable; how can this country boast to have invested so much in education and then you get this level of thinking - "Typical Labour l-ewwel il-voti" No wonder Malta is the laughing stock of Europe...my my! I'm pretty sure that in your case it's the country first not your party right???
R Axisa
Oct 20th 2012, 11:04
Skuzi, dawn qed jithallsu minn flus il-poplu u l-poplu ghandu kull dritt ikun jaf x'inhu jigri bi flusu, specjalment fejn jidhlu investimenti bhal dan. Dawn l-affarijiet ifakkruni meta lura fis-snin konna nisimghu l-frazi "mhux fl-interess tal-poplu". U hekk ergajna gejna. Bhalissa qed niftakar ukoll fir-risposta li kien ta xi hadd li sab lill-BWSC fil-yellow pages!!
R Axisa
Oct 20th 2012, 11:06
Skuzi, dawn qed jithallsu minn flus il-poplu u l-poplu ghandu kull dritt ikun jaf x'inhu jigri bi flusu, specjalment fejn jidhlu investimenti bhal dan. Dawn l-affarijiet ifakkruni meta lura fis-snin konna nisimghu l-frazi "mhux fl-interess tal-poplu". U hekk ergajna gejna. Bhalissa qed niftakar ukoll fir-risposta li kien ta xi hadd li sab lill-BWSC fil-yellow pages!!
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 20th 2012, 11:07
Id-dnub ma jorqodx. Ghalxejn tippruvaw tahbu. Irridu l-Whistle blowers act mill-aktar fis.
J Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 11:41
@ R.Axisa
Skuzi, dawn qed jithallsu minn flus il-poplu u l-poplu ghandu kull dritt ikun jaf x'inhu jigri bi flusu, specjalment fejn jidhlu investimenti bhal dan
If you are referring to the informers ergejna koppi bal-reporter tal-RTK tiftakar.
Ramon Mangion
Oct 20th 2012, 13:05
Skuzi kemm int mohhok maghluq biex tkompli issib skuzi biex tiprotegi din il-froga ta' GonziPN ?
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 20th 2012, 13:18
@J Busuttil
Skuzi ta, but I think this failure would have been delayed as much as possible or heavily spiced by the pn until somebody like Mr. Mizzi informed the man in the street. Typical pn l-ewwel u qabel kollox il partit
Lawrence Ellul
Oct 20th 2012, 13:36
What strong finances were you talking about. Do you know that we are in debt nearly 5 Billion euros.
Do you know that every day we have to fork out 650,000 Euros in interests.
Strong finances my foot.
P Buħaġiar
Oct 20th 2012, 10:31
For God sake RESIGN as whole cabinet.
Vincent Cassar
Oct 20th 2012, 10:30
Nitlob lis-Sur Lou Bondi imur jigri sal-Marsa mal-cameraman kif ghamel biex mar jigri Brussels u jaghmel investigazzjoni...la kien tajjeb tant biex jipprova jattakka lis-Sur Dalli mal-barranin issa ghandu jkollu d-dicenza illi jiddefendi lill-Maltin mal-barranin. Wara kollox dawn Danizi u bhall-gara taghhom ghandhom imprezzjoni illi ahna l-Mediterranji ghadna lura...U kif jghid Toto: E io pago
Vincent Cassar
Oct 20th 2012, 10:19
Sometimes I just wonder: What is wrong with us???? Did someone mention meritocracy???
Joseph Bugeja
Oct 20th 2012, 10:18
Yes and in six months time we can blame labour for still using the Marsa plant.
How many reasons do we need to oust this regime? Suddenly the 12 points lead in the polls seems paltry (pun intended)!
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Oct 20th 2012, 10:11
Cannot we get one thing right when it comes to managing an energy policy. What I cannot understand is why if one turbine is damaged the rest of the system is unusable. Can we be assured that the new power station has built in redundancy and a bypass facility for damaged units. Is this some flawed architecture without proper risk management features, lacking continuity and fast recovery assurance
Mario Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 11:10
It is still functionable for the use of 8 diesel engines and can be used as normal operation,,but one have to understand that the fact of buying something new ,everyone would eccept the product will function at full capacity.Enemalta did not accept this and did well for not accepting the hand over.It was the last few days that we were going to take over ,thanks God a problem was caused by Danis
PM Camilleri
Oct 20th 2012, 11:24
Probably yes, from what we've seen so far there is no proper redundancy built in.
Paul Caruana
Oct 20th 2012, 10:03
On the bright side, at least the taxpayer will get some of his/her money back from what was always a controversial contract that was awarded to this particular company.
D. A . Agius
Oct 20th 2012, 10:21
It's not money back... we're spending more to run Marsa.
Michael Shepherd
Oct 20th 2012, 11:03
Yes maybe but what happens if they now go bankrupt. How does MALTA then get any money at all. BWSC may take years to pay so it may not be all roses. I think they should start again & get it right the 2nd time !!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about the fines Malta will have to pay for using MARSA again which is already out of date. Look forward to more power cuts. Now run your electric car HAHA. This is fun???
Franco Attard Trevisan
Oct 20th 2012, 11:10
how?
Charles Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 12:17
@ Franco Attard Trevisan
'He (Mr Fenech) said the delays meant Malta would spend more on fuel because it would have to again make full use of the Marsa power station.' Is this reason enough?
P Mangion
Oct 20th 2012, 19:50
Unfortunately you can't get your health back. The pollution we swallow cannot be cured by getting some money back.
j brincat
Oct 20th 2012, 10:02
"Experts were also investigating whether a stop valve was wrongly installed (by BWSC) or whether it had been a manufacturing fault"
Who are the experts? One would think that they are independent ones and not employed by Enemalta and this for obvious reasons!
(jb)
J Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 10:36
j.brincat
When we get independent experts you cry out that these are not needed as we have experts in Malta and so a waste of money. When we use our experts you cry out the contrary.
Ara veru Labour wont work.
B Ellul
Oct 20th 2012, 10:56
Nahseb you're the expert because you comment on everything
anton cassar
Oct 20th 2012, 11:11
@ J.Busuttil...I think that PN won`t work.Look at Arriva, BSWC, Smart City, Arms, Mater dei, Enemalta just to name a few !!
joseph demicoli
Oct 20th 2012, 11:33
and that's what you will be saying when the LP takes over in couple of weeks But you will change last phrase PN never worked
Ray Buhagiar
Oct 20th 2012, 11:39
The reason why everything has to be FULLY investigated with consequential delays is because every process on this island is heavily politicized. Criticism (negative) galore. But then once there is a change in Govt all processes remain as they were. Basta gergirna u hloqna sensazzjoni.
J Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 11:43
@ anton cassar
But the finances do. Certificate one after another.
Kevin Sciberras
Oct 20th 2012, 11:54
@Anton Cassar
You are slightly wrong. PN doesn't work except for itself!
Joe Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 13:00
@ Anton Cassar: Did you notice that all,except MD, fall.or used to ,under Agostino Pio? Guess this guy won't need a monument when he passes on to a better world. He will be remembered by his work.
@j.busuttil: What finances? Did you get a substantial rise in wages or pension,like 600Euros a week? Thank God our banks are efficient and the Maltese careful with their money. No merit of GonziPN.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 20th 2012, 13:38
@ J Butigieg
If you live in Malta you might know that the Credit Agencies have downgraded Malta's ratings TWICE during the last months.
Pierre Fenech
Oct 20th 2012, 13:41
Mr Cassar Not PN Won't work imma PN isn't Working you must say. This is not speculation of what might happen in the future but what is happening in reality.
j brincat
Oct 20th 2012, 10:00
So it had to be Hon Mr Mizzi PL MP to elucidate us with the exact state of affairs as regards the new BWSC power station. Otherwise, in all probability, we would have been left in the dark.
Can Hon Fenech tell us how much BWSC have been paid todate and how much is still owing - we've have a right to know because we are footing the bill through taxes.
(jb)
J Busuttil
Oct 20th 2012, 10:30
@ j brincta
Come on don't dramatise Joe Mizzi was one step ahead to spill the news.
Even if they have been paid they still have to for out the damages.
Grow up and be honest.
V. Cauchi
Oct 20th 2012, 10:00
All in all, it looks like an Angel of Death has struck Malta ...
Mr J Xerri
Oct 20th 2012, 09:56
"It was only yesterday that BWSC said that the turbine would need to be removed." Yes after the cat was let out of the bag by Labour MP, Joe Mizzi
Charles Bugeja
Oct 20th 2012, 09:55
kieku ma tkellimx xi hadd min tal labour fuq dan il kaz, kienet l-enemalta tohrog xi stqarrija jew kollox jibqa ghaddej ma l-ohrajn!!!
Pawlu Cauchi
Oct 20th 2012, 09:54
So if it was not for labour MP Mizzi we would have none nothing about this issue.
Tarcisio Mifsud
Oct 20th 2012, 09:53
This sort of damage is almost unheard off in this industry particularly on new machines. During my time at Enemalta, Malta Drydocks and Enemalta employees managed to dismantle 5 turbines from Palermo and Little Barford in UK. These turbines were later re-erected at Marsa PS, with just one foreign supervisor, and finally commissioned without any sort of problem. We are not cwiec.
C Cassar
Oct 20th 2012, 10:26
Yes and Malta dry docks wre so efficient that they had to be disbanded. Sorry but thatnk god those days are over. Mechanical issues can occur in any complex installation but then again the Maltese understand nothing about any kind of modern technology so it's not surprising about the primitive comments seen here.
john muscat
Oct 20th 2012, 10:39
You are right Mr. Mifsud, and those turbines at Marsa are still going strong, and they were second hand with never a hitch on any turbine, only one of the boilers used to malfunction, otherwise the turbine blades were and are still good. I worked on many ship's turbines and never found any such damage on the turbine blades and there should be a stop valve on each and every turbine.
Tarcisio Mifsud
Oct 20th 2012, 09:49
Most of what is stated above may be just bla bla, because, there may be a clause on the amount of penalties that can be charged no matter for what reason, delays, damages, etc. It depends on what the contract states.
Please choose the reason of your report below: