Updated - Dalli: This was a plan of entrapment, company denial
John Dalli, the former EU Health Commissioner, has provided some details of two meetings mentioned yesterday by Giovanni Kessler, the director general of the EU's anti-fraud office (Olaf).
He also claimed that what was happening showed a plan of entrapment against him - a claim which was promptly denied by Swedish Match, the company which raised the whole issue with the European Commission.
Mr Dalli said he attempted to send this reply via e-mail yesterday, but was unsuccessful. In the e-mail, he says he met a Snus lobbyist in 2010 and an unnamed Maltese lawyer in 2012. He says these were the meetings Mr Kessler referred to as the one centring around his investigation. He also implies that the meetings were organised by businessman Silvio Zammit.
However, yesterday morning, Mr Dalli said Mr Zammit "never asked me for any meeting with these people". He was referring to Snus lobbyists, who he claims attempted to "bribe" Mr Zammit in March by asking him how much he would charge to set up an informal meeting.
In today's reply he qualifies his statement, saying it was the offer made in March that was "never communicated" to him.
The e-mail he was referring to was sent by the European Smokeless Tobacco Council, which is chaired by the spokesman of Swedish Match, the company that reported Mr Dalli to the European Commission in May.
Mr Dalli also claims that the "Snus people" made another request by phone on July 3, after filing their complaint. He does not say how he got to know about this phone call or the e-mail that was addressed to Mr Zammit.
Mr Dalli also says there are other issues which will brought up at the appropriate time that show "a systematic plan of entrapment."
This is Mr Dalli's explanation, in his own words:
"It is important that we put things in perspective.
The "dealings" between the Snus people and the Maltese entrepreneur seem to have started in March of this year, after I had finalised my policy on the tobacco directive with SANCO, the services responsible for health and consumers which was in February this year.
The meetings that Kessler referred to were held one in August 2010 with a lobbyist who simply handed me some reports from Price Waterhouse about tobacco, and one on 6th January 2012 with a Maltese lawyer who wanted to know the Commission position on SNUS – which I explained. If you watched the press conference given at the commission at midday today, you could hear the journalists say that this is common practice with most commissioners.
During that time I was in listning mode on this issue, analysing all information and preparing my position.
The proof that these meetings did not influence the decisions taken by myself and SANCO is the email which was published this morning (yesterday) by Malta Today, sent by the SNUS organisation on the 16th March which stated that they were hearing disturbing rumours and were offering a bribe to have a meeting organised with me. This offer was never communicated to me.
I am also informed that the SNUS people again made the same request by phone around the 3rd of July, when they had already made their complaint (25th May) and when OLAF had already started its investigations. It is obvious that they did not succeed to get at me after many attempts.
I have repeatedly stated to OLAF that I did not discuss SNUS with the Maltese Entrepreneur after the 6th of January.
The Director General of OLAF kept insisting on his conclusions based on circumstantial evidence that I was aware of the dealings that were going on. This is simply conjecture on his part which will not stand the test of serious study. I have categorically declared several times that I was not aware of these goings on.
As to my the email that was published, it came into my hands weeks after I had an interview with OLAF in which THEY informed me of what was going on. It is also interesting to note that the Director General of OLAF stated that he did not know about this email. I ask, what due diligence did he perform on the SNUS organisation who made the complaint?
It is not the independent fact of this email, there are other issues which will be brought up at the appropriate time that show a systematic plan of entrapment."
SWEDISH MATCH DENIES ENTRAPMENT
Swedish MatCh in a statement denied the claims of entrapment and said that all it had done was report to the European Authorities an offer which should not have been made to it.
It said that according to its code of conduct it was bound to report anything which could expose it to an illegality.
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Lucienne Dimech
Oct 19th 2012, 06:50
There is a limit how many people wish John Dalli harm. Is he always the poor victim? One starts to wonder
Tony Dalli
Oct 19th 2012, 04:40
Nobody mentioned the fact that Barroso was very recently in Malta and had all the time in the world to possibly discuss issue with PM and his adviser RCC. Is it also a coincidence that this had to be announced so close to the 5+5 summit?
Eddy Privitera
Oct 18th 2012, 22:05
Why was that email sent to Silvio zammit from someone in the Swedish company or one of its lobbyists, asking mr. Zammit what was the fee so that Silvio Zammit arranges the meeting ? Or was that email a hoax ?
C Muscat
Oct 19th 2012, 09:04
I agree with you Eddy Privitera and prosit to be maltese first and foremost.
Have Swedish Match according to their code of conduct informed the eu of this email offering bribes.
Why did Barroso sent away Dally and shelved again the anti tobacco directive???!!!
Philip Bonello
Oct 18th 2012, 20:41
Now that John Dalli has, unfortunately, been made to resign, we have to appoint a new commissioner in the shortest possible time to continue where John left off. Austin Gatt is ideally placed to substitute Mr. Dalli. He is forthright and resolute and also incorruptible. He would be the ideal candidate for the job
Lino Maniscalco
Oct 18th 2012, 17:58
This looks clearly to be an organized frame up to stop the directive.
m farrugia
Oct 18th 2012, 22:32
dan ir ragel kemm il frame up ha jsofri miskin. jekk mhux sejjer zball dan diga it tielet frame up
kif jghidu il qasba ma iccaqcaqx ta xejn. U minn fuq hadha kontra gonzi meta dan nehhieh minn ministru sakemm saru l-investigazzjoniet tax-xiri ta air tickets minghand travel agency ta bintu mill ministeru tal foreign affairs, x'ippretenda li ma jsirux investigazzjoniet fuq allegazzjoni?
ALBERT FENECH
Oct 18th 2012, 17:33
Ian Fleming and John le Carre could not have come up with a better ploy. Everybody is contradicting each other and everybody else; the bottom line is that Malta is in the centre of an EU scandal when we are sinking under a mountain of scandal in Malta already. And on whose watch - the current administration which just will not do the decent thing and go!
ALBERT FENECH
Andy Farrugia
Oct 18th 2012, 17:26
Usually, when people find themselves in a hole they stop digging........however, when they find themselves so far down the only thing they can do is to continue digging.
Alfred Attard
Oct 18th 2012, 17:00
Considering Giovanni Kessler's replies during yesterday press conference, the main indictment towards John Dalli is Omerta'. This means that as an EU Commisioner he ignored something which he knew that it was illicit.
Salvino Giusti
Oct 18th 2012, 16:56
Salvino Giusti
Maybe we can ask Mr Dalli to brief the Maltese Parliament of the unsavoury treatment he received at the hands of Mr Barroso. Our Ma\ltese Commissioner is no schoolboy to be threatened with an ultimatum like the one given to Mr Dalli by r Barroso. Could our six Maltese European Parliamentarians raise this matter
conjointly and immediately at the European Parliament?
Joe Calleja
Oct 18th 2012, 18:30
I fully agree.
Joe Calleja
Oct 18th 2012, 16:54
Ref. to earlier Mr. Anthony Pace's comment it must be said that IF it was Zammit who arranged the meetings, Mr. Dalli had no particular reason to tell Zammit to ask the Swedes to follow the usual norm thru' the Brussels office or report Zammit to authorities, as Zammit wasn't doing anything extraordinary, and bearing in mind Mr. Dalli WASN'T AWARE of any 'fishy dealings' between Zammit and Swedes
Raymond Sacco
Oct 18th 2012, 16:52
E.U. commissioners are supposed to take decisions in the interest of the population in general. So why should there be a need for meetings with lobbyists? Why should there be lobbyists at all? Maybe the E.U. should start reflecting on a huge overhaul on the way it (mal?) functions.
C Muscat
Oct 18th 2012, 16:44
And a fact that cannot be negated is that the directive is being shelved again; so good for these tobacco people!!!!
R. Balzan
Oct 18th 2012, 16:12
With all these doubts on the shenanigans in Brussels and considering public admissions that the accusations are all based on circumstantial evidence, is it not premature and highly irregular for the PM to state that a new commissioner will be appointed as soon as possible? Or is there a hidden local agenda for all this?
M Borg
Oct 18th 2012, 16:35
If nothing is clear why did he resign ?
. Could he not have stayed on and ask to see the evidence?
Eddy Privitera
Oct 18th 2012, 16:49
M. Borg: Because Barroso asked him to resign.
Joseph Brincat
Oct 18th 2012, 16:50
M Borg
@ If nothing is clear why did he resign ?
They made him resign M. Borg !!
ANTHONY PAVIA
Oct 18th 2012, 16:55
Didn't you know that Machiavelli was conceived in Malta?
Carmel Camilleri
Oct 18th 2012, 17:09
@M Borg. John did not resign on his own free will. He was forced to resign by Barosos
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 18th 2012, 17:27
@ M Borg
Not if Barroso held a gun at Dalli's head forcing him to resign within the hour without consulting his lawyers and family, or be fired peremptorily.
victor bonello
Oct 18th 2012, 17:27
@M.borg - because in all civilised and democratic countries ( unlike in Malta) that is what one dies when hs trust is put at question.
G G Debono
Oct 18th 2012, 18:01
To M Borg .........Today, 16:35
RE If nothing is clear why did he resign ?
Because that's the decent thing to do ! ---and one can fight an injustice better .
And that's what our politicians are mostly afraid to do !
M Borg
Oct 18th 2012, 20:36
@ all
Sorry I do not agree with all of you. I would have stayed on and fight to prove that I did nothing wrong.
leo briffa
Oct 18th 2012, 15:25
Mr. Dalli is paid Euros 20,666 monthly while most of us honest hard working common people don't even get that much in a YEAR let alone a month. if he is sent away he will probably get Euros 500,000 just for leaving. so why worry for him??? worry for yourself--- he's rich anyway while we are trying to cope with life in Malta with miserable wages!!! shame on all those involved.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 18th 2012, 16:27
@ Leo Briffa
We do not "worry for him" (Dalli). We worry for the international reputation of Malta, of its citizens and of the prime minister who chose him to represent us abroad.
Mr Stephen Borg
Oct 18th 2012, 16:28
Well said, you couldn't have put it better and then they say that they are there to serve the people, I am sure that those with a little bit of grey matter above their eyes can comprehend that where politicians are involved it is the people who serve them.
M Borg
Oct 18th 2012, 16:39
What has what he gets monthly got to do with all this ?
Why ruin a man if he did nothing wrong ?
Eddy Privitera
Oct 18th 2012, 16:52
Francis and Stephen: Don'y you think you are already condemning Mr. Dalli before he has had a chance to prove his innocence ?
Robert Agius
Oct 18th 2012, 17:08
Well, Leo, most of the famous people today are crap but look at ho much they get paid....just sayin'
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 18th 2012, 17:52
@EddyPrivitera
No! I am not condemning Dalli.
I am criticising the Swedish tobacco lobby and OLAF for furthering its agenda. Also, I am putting up a defence for the international reputation of Malta because the case against its ambassador is suspiciously weak and based on circumstantial evidence, if you can call it that.
A.Felex Busuttil
Oct 18th 2012, 15:24
I am very surprised how President Baroso did not gave his backing to Mr Dalli. was this because Mr Dalli told EU to leave Gaddafi alone?
m farrugia
Oct 18th 2012, 21:55
or perhaps because he was appearing on one tv's bla agenda every week ixewwex? is this an eu commissioner's job????
R Vassallo
Oct 18th 2012, 15:19
At the level Mr. Dalli operated in, one risks the wrath of very powerful people with plenty of resources and influence. It was quite clear from his attitude that Kessler was out for Mr. Dalli's blood. He ensured that he passed on the message that Dalli was guilty Perhaps an investigation into covert networks of influence is required, from the halls of Valletta to the corridors of Brussells.
Joseph Brincat
Oct 18th 2012, 15:16
John Dalli, if you came out innocent in court , then sue Giovanni Kessler,
the director general of the EU's anti-fraud office (Olaf). for false evidence !!!
Charles Sammut
Oct 18th 2012, 16:42
...and what if Johnnie came out guilty in court?!?..what then, would he go to Corradino?!?
Another case of smoke without fire for which Maltese politicians and their friends of friends are very well known in creating!
...and the beat goes on...and the beat goes on....
Pawlu Cauchi
Oct 18th 2012, 15:06
All smells of another frame up
GL Calleja
Oct 18th 2012, 16:11
If there is a smell in the air that means there are dead fish around. Let John Dalli prove his innocence and then move on to the next scandal. Is Malta such a corrupt country as they say it is? Not a nice thing to be proud of, is it? Two Maltese EU Meps resigned with in a couple of months? One being Cachia Caruana and now John Dalli? What is going on Dr Gonzi?
victor bonello
Oct 18th 2012, 17:31
GL Calleja- I thought everyone is presumed innocent until proved guilty. Yet you have already condemned J.Dalli saying " let John Dalli prove his innocence ". Where did you gt this mentality?
Louis Coleiro
Oct 18th 2012, 14:56
In my opinion Swedish match have won the battle Dalli is out. if this move means less restrictions for them; they risk the fine but at the end they will gain millions
G G Debono
Oct 18th 2012, 15:06
..... and free publicity too !
Mr Duncan Scerri
Oct 18th 2012, 15:15
Works the other way. The restrictions are already in place. The new policy might have removed them.
Richard Galea
Oct 18th 2012, 14:54
Come back Mr. Dalli......You have more imortant work to do here.....The Nationalists are lost in soul searching.....You have been betrayed for the second time now by sinister Maltese people who roam the corridors in Brussels or who meet in dark rooms......Malta Needs you Mr. Dalli....Come Back...
Charles Sammut
Oct 18th 2012, 16:45
ermm.. the PN does NOT Need Johnnie...Simon is here and he is the one who will save the PN from certain defeat at the Polls....
...and the beat goes on...and the beat goes on....
m farrugia
Oct 18th 2012, 22:05
we surely cannot consider mr dalli to be a nationalist any more with his weekly shows on hamilton's bla agenda on one tv
how can one stoop so low and is this allowed by the EU, do commissioners get paid 500.000 a year to spend their weekends criticising their country's pm just because he lost the leadership race to gonzi.
u dan miskin diga xi tlett darbiet gie investigat u sabuh innocenti
ray vassallo
Oct 18th 2012, 14:42
A lobbyist's job is to attempt to influence decisions made by officials. So:
How come lobbyists are legal?
Why should E.U. commissioners and local ministers meet lobbyists at all?
Are they permitted to do so?
Charles Grixti
Oct 18th 2012, 16:14
That is what I say to. This is institutionalised corruption. Wow. the EU is getting to be just like the USA.
A Spiteri
Oct 18th 2012, 14:30
lobbyists...in a true free market economy where the role of government is simply limited to safeguard each and everyone individual rights won't even exist...
but we live in a world where governments wants to control our lives...to check on our food, on what we drink and smoke.
the so called...economics of prohibition!
Joseph Camilleri
Oct 18th 2012, 14:25
dejjem vittma dan. Kemm hu bezzul.
John Zammit
Oct 18th 2012, 14:22
What caused Commission President Barroso to demand the resignation from Mr Dalli when only circumstantial evidence was found. Was he playing in the hands of Swedish Lobbyists to hold the proposed law regarding smoking from coming into force.Or there were some other Maltese persons behind this move.I don't share Mr Dalli Political views but Giovanni Kessler answered to the press did not convince me
Franco Attard Trevisan
Oct 18th 2012, 15:12
Same here....
Roderick Camilleri
Oct 18th 2012, 14:10
Mr. Dalli have been accused of wrongdoings during his over ten year ministry tens of times to say the least, of course always defended by PN, and given benefit of the doubt by the media in general.
Why do I have the funny feeling that there is a let`s say ''different attitude'' this time round?
Edgar Gatt
Oct 18th 2012, 14:05
A few years ago Mr. Dalli said that there was a plot by the PN to discredit him. Then he complained that his emails were hacked. Now he is stating that the latest plot is a plan of entrapment. Here we are talking of the President of the EU. Cannot believe that the President would accuse one of his ministers with fraud. After all it is Malta not Mr. Dalli that ended up with a tarnished name.
Joseph Brincat
Oct 18th 2012, 13:35
WE need 'WikiLeaks here !!!
Mr Duncan Scerri
Oct 18th 2012, 15:19
Wikileaks is global.
twanny borg
Oct 18th 2012, 13:35
kieku jimxu ma' kullhadd hekk l-eu kieku ma baqax ufficjal l-eu imma malta zghira u jisservaw biha biex attaparsi ara kemm ahna indaf. baroso irid jitkellem ghax ma jnaddafx il-mafja ta' pajjizu.
Paul Bajada
Oct 18th 2012, 13:35
We want names Mr. John Dalli, NAMES! Who is this Maltese lawyer you are referring to and who is this MALTESE entrepreneur?
Once these people's names are public domain, then we can arrive to our own conclusions. Why is it ONLY YOUR NAME Mr. John Dalli that is being public and the others NOT.
Edward Mallia
Oct 18th 2012, 13:31
"a systematic plan of entrapment" strong words. Who was trying to trap who? And how come Barroso seems to have fallen for it so easily? One vital point: Did John Dalli resign or was his resignation demanded by Barroso? If the latter, it looks as if Dalli has had pretty rough justice, rough enough to be at the other end of the semi-circle.
Victor Caruana
Oct 18th 2012, 13:23
Fight Back Mr Dalli Malta needs more people like you
Dennis Zammit
Oct 18th 2012, 13:08
Excuses and excuses only from Johnny.
Who do we believe? The EU Commission or one person?
mario salnitro
Oct 18th 2012, 13:03
I said so yesterday, and i am sure that someone is trying to get rid of Mr Dalli politically!!!
Edgar Gatt
Oct 18th 2012, 15:22
Mario, there is no need to get rid of Mr. Dalli politically. His political life has ended years ago and his only place is on One TV.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 18th 2012, 22:12
Edgar Gatt. Don't you know that Net TV never invites John Dalli ? This was said by Mr. Dalli !
Ethelbert Schembri
Oct 18th 2012, 12:59
A systematic plan of entrapment !!!
I really hope that for the sake of justice this case is exposed, because it seems that someone has a persisting thing against Mr Dalli.
This didn't obscured and took out of action John Dalli, but it damaged the credibility of Malta.
We the people PRETEND that this case is investigated with great diligence and all the findings must be made public.
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 18th 2012, 15:11
You don't "pretend", you expect
Ethelbert Schembri
Oct 18th 2012, 17:27
NO !! I pretend that justice is to be done !!
Franco Attard Trevisan
Oct 18th 2012, 12:58
What happens now??
Raymond Micallef
Oct 18th 2012, 12:58
I do not know John Dalli personally, but if you are right, fight for it and prove them wrong, especially a Maltese in the International fora. Good luck.
Paul Sammut
Oct 18th 2012, 12:56
Mr Dalli - although I do not share your political views I am sure that you are the most competent person to hold the post of EU Commi. I have full confidence in you, you are honest, & strong in your beliefs & that you are innocent. Go & face these european snobs who simply wanted you out of the way becasue of your new legislation that buries the Swedish Match. We where not born yesterday !
Anthony Psaila
Oct 18th 2012, 13:12
taf li qed nemmnek!
Victor Caruana
Oct 18th 2012, 13:22
I agree with you 100% Mr Sammut, I also have same views
M Farrugia
Oct 18th 2012, 13:53
Paul, lanqas li kieku kont tkum u torqod kuljum ma John dalli ma tista taghmel statement bhal dan. Jiena qabel jkun hemm rizultt finali ta dak kollu li gara ma nikkundanna lil hadd. Dan l-ahhar John Dalli jekk mhux zb aljat kellu ukoll xi kwistjoni ma xi ghaqda tal-animali mill-germanja li zammet konferenza hawn Malta fejn allegat li JOhn dalli kien qieghed jigbed. Dan allura komplot?
C Muscat
Oct 18th 2012, 14:29
I agree 100%.
I would like to add that as a Maltese citizen against EU membership I have been right all the way. We have been reduced to a local bar.
Alexander Montebello
Oct 18th 2012, 14:35
.. And of course you come to your high-handed conclusion because you conducted your own detailed private investigation and have counter evidence proving that Dalli is just an innocent scapegoat, right?
David Caruana
Oct 18th 2012, 12:50
I hope that the next Commissioner would push for an outright ban of this SNUS.
Joseph Brincat
Oct 18th 2012, 12:41
John Dalli, if you are innocent keep on fighting for your rights!!
We all know that sometimes politics is rotten !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTVzxsvWJTw
Vincent Cassar
Oct 18th 2012, 12:40
I am sure that Mr Dalli is very correct on this case. Kessler himself noted this was not a case of "fraud". Mr Dalli may have made an error in his behaviour but it should not be tantamount to fraud (i.e. intended deception). And with the EU boasting to be so democratic why are OLAF reports not made public? After all, it is taxpayers money and taxpayers have a right to know!
G Borg
Oct 18th 2012, 12:29
I sincerely like to know the name of the Maltese lawyer involved in one of the meetings. I hope he is not the one I am thinking about. There is something in this whole issue which is not that straightforward. I just hope that this is not a re-run of past happenings which tried to demonise this person. Lou Bondi was asking questions in the OLAF press conference. That was efficient, wasn't it?
Paul Portelli
Oct 18th 2012, 14:17
Have you seen what Mr Bondi asked? He asked whether there was any evidence on which OLAF based their report and pressed why OLAF was only acting on circumstantial evidence. It was a legitimate question. But obviously those with red blinkers, who recently started seeing Dalli as an angel, are really seeing red!
Carmel Ellul
Oct 18th 2012, 12:26
Has somebody in OLAF just made a big favour to the Tabacco Industry by indirectly blocking the new harsher directive?
Circumstantial evidence is never proof , and from the sequence of events , it was the tabacco companies who, by creating these circumstantial occurences , stopped the regulation that was going to strangle them.
And OLAF swallowed it all ,Hook , Line and Sinker.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 18th 2012, 12:45
Let us pray that it is only a case of OLAF swallowing it all. Hook, Line and Sinker - and nothing worse.
M Farrugia
Oct 18th 2012, 13:56
Jekk OLAF jibla dak li qed jghid allura Baroso ghandu itajjar lilu u lil kun min huwa involut fl-inkjesta
Brian Gatt
Oct 18th 2012, 15:06
Why Dr Saliba you think there was someone local involved apart from the mentioned buisnessman?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 18th 2012, 16:34
@BrianGatt.
No, thank you. I am capable of making myself understood by the intelligent, without any need for distorting elaborations and questions from those who pretend to be obtuse.
George Joseph Cauchi
Oct 18th 2012, 12:26
If Mr Dalli did not abide by the rules, how worse is it that the Swedish Company tried to snare him. With Mr Manuel Baroso's hasty action, the smoking producers got what they wanted. They, in Brussels, should be all sacked for letting countries endanger the Euro and demanding bailouts.
j brincat
Oct 18th 2012, 12:19
Does this mean that the directive that Mr Dalli was working on will be shelved? It was to be discussed very soon (on 21st October, if I'm not mistaken) and this directive doesn't seem to be much favoured by the tobacco industry.
So, I ask what's cooking?
(jb)
Anthony Psaila
Oct 18th 2012, 13:13
I always look forward to your comments. JB the best! Ghandek x'taghmel ghas-sena li gejja ?? qed infittxu kummissjaru...
Mario Scicluna
Oct 18th 2012, 12:12
Solid case Mr. Dalli, proset!
I hope that after the mud throwing and baseless allegations, Mr. Kessler would have the decency to clarify further and admit, and Barroso to offer a sincere public apology since he rushed to conclusions and demanded Mr. John Dalli's resignation fortwith!
Ahjar jara Barroso u siehbu Van Rompoy x'qed ihawdu u jgerfxu bl-Ewro u bil-bailouts!!
Alexander Montebello
Oct 18th 2012, 14:44
You seriously think that barosso and Kessler would just throw allegations around without having done all the ground work before?
Dalli has known of the investigation since July 11th. Why didn't he tell anyone - not even the PM - that he was under investigation?
Instead he makes wild allegations the next day that his email had been hacked .Seems like a massive smokescreen to me.
Anthony Pace
Oct 18th 2012, 12:07
Mr Dalli, you should have told Mr Zammit that the Swedish company can arrange an appointment via the Brussels office as is the norm. Then you wouldn't have got into this pickle and reported Mr Zammit to the necessary authorities.
The fact the Mr Zammit resigned immediately from his post is proof tthat something is not right.
Charles Cremona
Oct 18th 2012, 12:32
I totally agree with you Anthony, this is either a case of a serious error of judgment by Dalli or their is more to it than he is admitting to, in any case it is not doing Malta and its good name any favours in the corridors of Brussels. First there was the Dolores Cristina affair and now this.
Please choose the reason of your report below: