CABS volunteer fined, reported for harassment
A Committee Against Bird Slaughter volunteer from Gozo has been fined €100 for trespassing and exercising a pretended right.
Hunters’ federation president Lino Farrugia had, last April, lodged a police report that Mr Camilleri, together with another four members of CABS, entered private land without the owner’s permission.
The FKNK said in a statement that upon leaving the law courts, Mr Farrugia and another witness who had also been summoned to testify by the police, noticed that Mr Camilleri, who in the meantime had changed and was sporting a CABS T-shirt, followed them.
FKNK said Mr Farrugia has lodged another report of harassment by Mr Camilleri with the police.
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Victor Pulis
Oct 19th 2012, 13:36
M. Cardona
Yesterday, 15:31
Victor Pulis,
since when do two wrongs make a right? Or for you it's a question of who perpetrates the illegality?
You're right, two wrongs don't make a right so why was only one wrong penalized and fined?
M. Cardona
Oct 19th 2012, 23:12
Mr Pulis
the CABS activist was tried and found GUILTY AS CHARGED of trespassing and of exercising a pretended right by a legitimate court in accordance with the laws of the land. The CABS activist trespassed and exercised a pretended right, was found GUILTY repeat; GUILTY and fined.
Oh and lest I forget; now it looks like a fresh charge for harassment is on the way.
Toni Muscat
Oct 18th 2012, 20:23
Like I said before why don't the police put this much energy that they are giving running around with Bird Life and CABS into getting drugs off the streets . Also tell me if this makes sense . I hear that trappers CAN trap Golden Plover and Song Thrush but also gave the hunters permission to shoot and kill the same birds. This does not make any sense at all .
Rupert Masefield
Oct 19th 2012, 11:00
???
Chris Xuereb
Oct 18th 2012, 17:00
fknk make yourselves useful & go catch some poachers instead of using the media to play victim.
David Agius
Oct 18th 2012, 19:32
Birdlife/cabs go watch some birds instead of harassing other other people!
Emanuel Curmi
Oct 18th 2012, 16:05
To all Pro Hunting Apologists out there. No, it is not alright to trespass but anybody who claims that hunters, illegal or bona fide ones, do not ever trespass on private land can throw the first stone. This gentleman's overzealous action can never be legitimized but to trumpet this case as a vindication of the many hollow arguments of the hunting lobby is an exceedingly cheap shot(excuse the pun)
Victor Pulis
Oct 18th 2012, 15:07
It's illegal to trespass but it's also illegal to punch someone...or is it?
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 15:31
Victor Pulis,
since when do two wrongs make a right? Or for you it's a question of who perpetrates the illegality?
D Borg
Oct 18th 2012, 14:32
So FKNK feels that someone 'following' two grown ups on public land, tantamounts to haressment.......whereas some of their members shooting in the countryside with lead pellets falling on pulic land - even when families would have braved the same hunters dark looks or outright verbal threats, is just fine.
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 15:33
D Borg,
please don't try to justify the unjustifiable. Let justice take its course or are you perchancing expecting that certain individuals are granted immunity and a status above the laws of the land?
D Borg
Oct 18th 2012, 14:28
pity that even protected birds pay a higher price, when they dare venture within some hunters' land or shooting range.
They are surely more than harassed...
David Agius
Oct 18th 2012, 16:03
Mr Borg,
pity is that someone harassing and trespassing other people pays E100 and someone just sitting with a gun in his own property pays E1200 and has his gun confiscated just for the sake of a closed season.
Gordon Cook
Oct 18th 2012, 13:58
to
Mario Farrugia
Today, 12:31
Hey, Mr Brightspark, what's the "good work" in your opinion?? Trespassing on private property?
Bravu hej!
Mela ghal tal-Birdlife u tal-CABS ma jghoddux ir-regolamenti??
Why so tetchy?
Gordon Cook
Oct 18th 2012, 13:56
I am puzzled that this case gets to court in less than a year.
Have I missed the cases of illegal poaching (I refuse to call blasting at anything flying within range hunting!)
Were there any ???
Jay Oatmon
Oct 18th 2012, 13:46
We see the usual Malta way of enforcement - strong with the weak or foreigner, and weak with the strong or Maltese.
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 15:35
Mr Jay Oatman,
Can you please give me your address so I come and trespass your property. Then we'll see how hospitable you are and whether you'd have me reported for trespassing or not.
Jay Oatmon
Oct 18th 2012, 16:51
to M. Cardona:
There is a big difference in entering a persons private dwelling to walking in a field. Entering into a dwelling uninvited is trespassing, but walking in open countryside to my mind is legal and not trespassing (provided no damage is done, even if and there are signs).
However this is Malta and the courts act in ways which would not be correct/acceptable in other countries.
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 18:13
Mr Jay Oatman,
what you conveniently omitted is that the CABS person was not found guilty solely of trespassing, but also for exercising a pretended right.
With regards to trespassing, do you think local people have never been abroad? I'd love to see anyone trespass fields in UK, France, Germany and any other country for all that matters.
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 18:17
Cont; you are evidently trying to justify the unjustifiable. The present decree by the court proves the illegalities committed by the other camp and which many hunters have repeatedly been complaining about but which were conveniently being overlooked. Mr Oatman, an illegal act remains just that irrespective whether the convictions of the perpetrator fit your own.
Saviour Gauci
Oct 18th 2012, 13:31
The hunters' association keeps shooting itself in the foot. One day they speak outright against illegal hunting, the next day they want action taken against the ones who report about it. Trespassing is a joke. most people who trespass are hunters who intrude into private and public land as if it was only theirs.
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 15:37
Saviour Gauci,
irrespective of all the blubbering, the court which unlike you had all the facts laid out, decreed otherwise in this case.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 19th 2012, 15:49
Well said Saviour.
Toni Muscat
Oct 18th 2012, 13:16
With all the energy the police are putting in assisting CABS and Birdlife Malta ,going into people fields to catch hunters and trappers think what the same energy can do to catch drug pushers. Gozo is over run with drugs. Hard drugs and there is NO longer any CID agents present for a fact.
Carmelo Aquilina
Oct 18th 2012, 13:13
wow congratulations FKNK you have proved that all your zero tolerance talk mans is that you will take action against is about criticism and scrutiny and not against poaching
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 18:52
Exactly.
Mr Tony Gatt
Oct 18th 2012, 12:50
It's strange that FKNK never seems to report illegal hunting.
Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
Oct 18th 2012, 13:27
"It's strange that" BLM and CABS "never seem to report" trespassing by its members!!!! Using the antis' yardstick, are we to tarnish the reputation of ALL BLM members and CABS with the wrong-doings of some in their midst?!!
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 13:59
Mr Tony Gatt,
if I trespassed your property and exercised pretended rights in your regards, would you report me?
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 15:00
Well said.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 15:16
Well said to Tony Gatt I mean, so there are no misunderstandings.
Mr Tony Gatt
Oct 18th 2012, 16:10
@ M. Cardona
It depends. I you seemed a nice chap and apologized I might even offer you a cup of tea!
Mario Spiteri
Oct 18th 2012, 12:37
No one has the right to enter private property..and this applies to all CABS or not!!
anthony sultana
Oct 18th 2012, 12:36
I live in the countryside, and this shooting early in the morning near my house should be illegal,Where is the justes system.The birds they are killing ,they don't even bother to pick them up to eat them later for lunch.
M. Cardona
Oct 18th 2012, 14:03
What a bunch of hogwash.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 19:15
Poor birds
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 19:17
M.Cardona,
You're trying to hide the moon, but we could see it, Mr.Sultana is right.
Mr Ernest Vella
Oct 18th 2012, 12:12
Prosit...almenu ma jigux jaghmluha ta sidien fil-propjeta taghna.
J Scicluna
Oct 18th 2012, 12:07
Good. No place for such extremists in our country.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 14:59
Nothing extreme in doing the job properly
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 12:06
Keep up the good work CABS, they're bullies and they're trying to intimidate you, don't let them.
Mario Farrugia
Oct 18th 2012, 12:31
Hey, Mr Brightspark, what's the "good work" in your opinion?? Trespassing on private property?
Bravu hej!
Mela ghal tal-Birdlife u tal-CABS ma jghoddux ir-regolamenti??
Jason Coleiro
Oct 18th 2012, 12:38
You know what can happen to you when you trespass private property..................
R Mallia
Oct 18th 2012, 12:59
MR.Farrugia,
The good work is catching you...
Harry Borda
Oct 18th 2012, 13:20
Mr. Consiglio, it seems that whatever Cabs and Birdlife do is ok for you. They break the law and are found guilty and you say hurrah and well done to them!!!!!!!
Michelle Attard
Oct 18th 2012, 13:28
The intimidating is being done by CABS when they enter private property without any authorisation Karl Consiglio... it doesn't take much sense to realise this.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 14:57
Its private property but not exactly a home, there is nothing to steal, neither would CABS be trespassing for fun, many a hunter is just paranoid of being caught red handed within his property, thats what this is.
And the sky sure ain't no hunter's private property.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 18th 2012, 15:15
And with reference to Mr.Farrugia's comment, since when does TOM let people call each other names like that, special license for hunters?? I rest my case on the bullying.
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