Labour lead widens
The latest billboards from Labour and the Nationalists. Photo: Darrin Zammit Lupi
The Labour Party has increased its lead and opened a 12-point gap over the Nationalist Party, a survey commissioned by The Sunday Times has found.
The survey, conducted by market research firm Misco among a random sample of 500 respondents, shows Labour ahead with 34 per cent, followed by the PN at 22 per cent and Alternattiva Demokratika at one per cent.
When compared to the results of a similar survey in July, the Labour Party is up two percentage points while the PN and AD remained stationary.
More significant was the swing factor, which showed more PN voters had switched to Labour over the past three months. The percentage of voters who chose PN in the last election but will now vote Labour rose to 11 per cent from nine per cent in July.
Reversing a negative result among young voters aged 18 to 24, the Labour Party now enjoyed a lead across all age groups with a strong showing among those aged 45 to 54.
However, the survey registered a higher number of undecided voters and those who will not vote.
The undecided stood at 22 per cent, up from 19 per cent in July and those who said they would not vote increased by one point to reach eight per cent.
Respondents generally disapproved of the behaviour of Nationalist rebel MPs. The survey showed that 47 per cent do not approve of how Franco Debono is acting as opposed to 36 per cent in favour.
Meanwhile, 38 per cent approve of the way Dr Pullicino Orlando is acting against 42 per cent who do not. However, 20 per cent of respondents are undecided as to the independent MP’s behaviour.
Asked whether they were more likely to vote PN if Dr Gonzi stepped down after the election, 55 per cent of respondents said No while 21 per cent said Yes.
Three-quarters of respondents across the political divide want the Government to present the Budget but at the same time 57 per cent want the Prime Minister to call an immediate election.
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Paul Ellul
Oct 15th 2012, 22:21
The poll, published by Misco: founded by Lawrence Zammit who was chairman of ETC, Air Malta, Grand Harbour Marina, Malta International Airport , Malta Enterprise (MDC) and another 6 or so entities since the 1990's, a PN supporter no doubt, out to sell the idea that the PL is way ahead.
The intention being to reduce PL's lead by harping on the fact that they are so far ahead. Hmm
Lino Camilleri
Oct 15th 2012, 20:23
Mela Gonzi jpacpac hafna u Miracle Joe ma jghid xejn. Taf x'jghid il-Malti "Kutu,,Kutu,, qrunu f'butu" Floaters attenti ghax wara l-elezzjoni, l-ewwel il-laburisti, it-tieni l-laburisti u jekk jifdal il-laburisti. Hekk jghidu ta' madwar Joe Muscat.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 15th 2012, 18:10
Dr. Joe Brincat L-L-D.: Allura tahseb li l-partiti joqghodu jahlu l-flus meta jikkummisjonaw li stharrig tal-opinjoni pubblika ? Kieku tiehu biss survey wiehed, jista jkun ghandek ragun. Izda meta l-istess rizultati jinkisbu f'i stharrig minn diversi sorsi, u jibqghu juru kwazi l-istess rizultati ghal numru ta'snin, ma tistax tghid li dak li stharrig ma jurix il-qaghda attwali !
John Scerri
Oct 15th 2012, 14:17
Obstructing a side walk with a billboard like the one above goes to show how serious and concerned whoever erected it is about those on bicycles, wheel chairs, pedestrians.
Where is the permit to place this rubbish here ?
Jen Fenech
Oct 15th 2012, 13:00
darbtejn insiru tfal.. il-leaders tagħna back to kindergarden!
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Oct 15th 2012, 12:11
In Roman Times, the emperors used to consult the oracle to know the future. Now we have opinion polls ! Much the same sibylline answers.
Martin Xuereb
Oct 15th 2012, 10:18
Do you think we are so stupid and gulable chickens dear parties? Totally acting like kids unbelievable! At the end of the day we just see what is left in our pockets and laws and restrictions that have effected us!
Mr John Borg
Oct 15th 2012, 10:15
One question. How did PL obtain such a quick permit to erect a billboard right next to that of the PN and get the permit to place it on the pavement blocks? Did PL leave a deposit guarantee with MEPA in case damage is sustained to the pavement?
tami mifsud
Oct 15th 2012, 09:51
both parties are acting like clowns............what embarrassing leaders !! I cringe in shame driving to work having to see those ridiculous billboards, this is playground behaviour, not what is expected from our leaders. !!!
C. Bartoli
Oct 15th 2012, 11:15
I fully agree with you!
Carmel Garcia
Oct 15th 2012, 09:30
Ara veru qishom vavi tan-nuna, tafhux? . Wiehed jipprova jidhaq bl-iehor... U lele. M'ghandhomx suggetti ta' veru x'jaghmlu fuq dawn il-mishutin bilboards. Qishom tfal zghar. we..we.we. ha noqghod quddiem, ha noqghod quddiem...
Mark. Galea
Oct 15th 2012, 09:23
Nisperaw li b'dan il-vantagg enormi, l-PL ma jergax jitlef l-elezzjoni ... 25 sena fl-oppozizzjoni jixraqilhom 5 snin ohra ...
A.f Ellul
Oct 15th 2012, 06:38
What is the difference of the two politicians? nothing ,Both paroli si,fatti no.
joseph gauci
Oct 15th 2012, 09:59
Wieħed minnhom nafuh sewwa imma l ieħor ma nafuhx u allura irridu nippruvawh biex inkunu nistaw nagħmlu l-ġudizzju. Jekk ikun bħal l-ieħor, (paroli si, fatti no), imbgħad ngħidu bħal ma qed tgħid int,what is the difference.................
S.M. Cuschieri
Oct 14th 2012, 21:55
That is what they said last time and the PN won.....LOLOL!!!!!!
K Cassar
Oct 14th 2012, 21:16
these political parties are like 2 primary school kids fighting over candy!!
R Casha
Oct 15th 2012, 09:17
Candy?!
That candy is worth a LOT mate!
Mark Busuttil
Oct 14th 2012, 20:23
Min hu fsensih ma jivvutax la ghal PN u qass ghal PL. Il pajjiz ghandu bzonn bidla drastika, imnadfa minn korruzjoni u attitudni ta tfal. Harsu lejn il bilboards, tad dahq sirna, u intom tridu dawn il clowns jirranjaw pajjizna? Jien zgur li le.
Ivvutaw AD forsi ma tafx kif jissorprenduna xkapaci jghamlu ghax jien nahseb li ghandhom biex flok dawn il clowns!!
Darren Attard Bonnici
Oct 14th 2012, 23:16
oh god lol
Franco Abela
Oct 15th 2012, 09:44
META L-AD JAQTGHU L-OSSESJONI LI GHANDHOM KONTRA L-UZU TAL-KAROZZI NIVVUTALHOM!
Peppi Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 20:23
PL 34%, PN 22%, Alternattiva 1%, Undecided 22%, Will not vote 8% = 87 % and the other 13 %? Unaccounted for?
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Oct 14th 2012, 20:13
@ Eddie Privitera. I have seen too many polls that failed. In this case there is +/- 4.5 margin of error. That is the safety net of the pollsters. Usually then, the same pollster, when an election is near, start saying that it is hard to call. And this not only in Malta ! Sampling can be highly unreliable. (Few characters left to explain)
Joseph Brincat
Oct 15th 2012, 10:00
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Yesterday, 20:13
You are right , but like the maltese say ' GHAJTA NOFS IL - BEJBH !!!
Iggy Vassallo
Oct 14th 2012, 19:52
What we have to remember is that this is not supporting your favorite football team and no matter good or bad you're behind your team, this is the future of your family and your country and you have to look around and see what is going on around you and around the world.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Oct 14th 2012, 19:51
@ Eddie P. Sampling. Take a pack of 52 cards. Half are red, half black. Shuffle and take out four. Two should be red and two black. Repeat it ten times, (shuffling the whole pack on each occasion)writing down the result. Then tell me how many times the sampling was precisely reflecting the balance between red and black in the whole pack.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 15th 2012, 18:30
Joe Brincat L.L.D. You are basing your argument on the fact that , hypothetically speaking , once a deck of cards has as many red cards as black ones, then after shuffling and taking out four cards, two should be red and two black. No, in such cases you would have to do what you suggest for a whole month. After a long period, yes, you find that the result would be about even ! I worked in a casino.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Oct 14th 2012, 19:45
@ Eddie Privitera. I have seen too many polls that failed. In this case there is +/- 4.5 margin of error. That is the safety net of the pollsters. Usually then, the same pollster, when an election is near, start saying that it is hard to call. And this not only in Malta ! Sampling can be highly unreliable. (Few characters left to explain)
Mr Kevin Zammit
Oct 14th 2012, 19:34
@M. O. Micallef and the rest
It is my opinion that should LP win they can only be better not worse than what we already have and the reason I think so is because were I to think otherwise then I would be rendering a huge disservice to the thousands that do a great job everyday no matter what party governs.
A minister can be thwarted by his underlings as much as encouraged after all.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 18:17
Lawrence Gonzi, anki llum, minkedjja li diga kien jaf li s-survey tas-Sunday Times kien juri li dak li qed jivvinta dwar l-20,000 impjieg gdid, li Dr. Muscat se jiffriza anki l-COLA, u li "Muscat mhu jghid xejn", m'huma qed jikkonvincu lill-hadd, xorta rega rrepetihom !
Charles Massa
Oct 14th 2012, 17:43
il vantagg favur il PH huwa ovvju......Dr Muscat huwa aktar kredibbli, Gonzi jpacpac biss u paroli bla sugu u ma kienx kapaci jikkontrolla d dizgwit li ghandu fil partit.
Joe M Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 18:17
Gonzi has managed to continue governing IN SPITE of all the internal troubles, international crisis.... The last MLP government stumbled on the very FIRST hurdle. In 1996, the advantage in favour of MLP WAS ALSO OBVIOUS, but they were so good with their 'winning team', that they collapsed. Remember? Labour has been only TALKING since 1998, while PN has been governing in spite of all the odds.
Darren Attard Bonnici
Oct 14th 2012, 23:20
no no no Joe ... you are so wrong ...
Alfred Sant did not stumble on the first hurdle ... He called the election as soon as he sensed that he had no power in parliament ... the same situation GONZIPN has now ...
the only difference is that Gonzi is trying to repair the whole in his ship before it sinks ...
C Busuttil
Oct 14th 2012, 17:29
The writing has been on the wall for sometime however certain PN supporters with their biased comments will only make worse.
Many like myself have pointed out that the party is being seen to have reverted to the pre Fenech Adami years, that is "Il-partit tas-Sinjur". People are tired to vote PN while only a few have the cake and eat it, and many of these people don't even deserve it !!!!!!!
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Oct 14th 2012, 17:24
Take all polls with two pinches of salt. Especially in Malta. Especially in telephone polls. The undecided = "It is none of your business what I am going to do. I do not trust you, Miss/Mr caller".
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 18:05
Dr. Brincat: But public opinion polls in Malta have been very reliable. Look at the polls taken during the last 4 weeks of the 2008 election campaign. They were dead right !
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 14th 2012, 18:49
Not necessarily Eddy. I am not saying that I do not think that Labour are in the lead. However, in the above there is a 14% that is unaccounted for. Those determine the swing. The survey seems iffy. For example, what if the calls were done on a labour strong hold? The results would be skewed.
Iggy Vassallo
Oct 14th 2012, 16:17
I think that a change can be good if not for anything it will keep everybody on their toes, I just hope that if there is a change the Labor Party will not have the attitude that everything that the Nationalist Party have done is not to their liking and destroy the progress. No matter who you support you have to admit that Malta is doing just fine. Grass always looks greener on the other side.
Monica Muscat
Oct 14th 2012, 19:02
True indeedm, a change can be good, but it is not said that it might not be bad!! The LP will surely "hate" everything that the PN did - even if all of Malta will cry out that they "love it". This attitude is engraned in the LP political texture! I guess they will even hate to move to the New Parliament Building!! Will bring back the old rickety bone-shaking buses.
R. Cilia
Oct 14th 2012, 19:55
M.Muscat ,you based your comment on assumptions not on facts
John L Galea
Oct 15th 2012, 10:05
@M Muscat: You should be voted prophet and political analyst of the year...lol
Sandro Pace
Oct 14th 2012, 16:06
This administration took many people for granted, especially the middle class. No refined media campaign, on which the PN always relied comfortably, may probably turn the tide now. The impressions of unnecessary spending power erosion, public finance squandering or disregard for accountability are overcoming any government claims in jobs and education. This is natural in any electorate's psyche.
Maria Mangion
Oct 14th 2012, 14:56
U dan b Muscat ma jighd Xejn, ghal min ma jridx jisima'. Qumu Maltin forsi fl ahhar ikollna gvern li ma jarax kuluri mhux bhal klikka tal llum. Joseph ghamel cert li l gid li tohloq taqsmu b gustizzja bejn kull hadd.
Joe M Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 15:55
Maria, the last time we 'woke up' to trust our nation MLP's hands we were let down. All they did was to freeze the UE membership, remove VAT (to introduce CET), and 'suggest' that rather to introducing the Euro, we should devaluate the Malta Lira by 10%. Now if THAT had happened, you and me would be 10% poorer! How did Joseph make certain that common good is fairly distributed? When? I wonder!
stephen koludrovic
Oct 14th 2012, 17:01
Caritas states that 19% of Maltese families are on the boarder of the poverty line.Now whose fault is that?
Joe Smith
Oct 14th 2012, 17:16
@Joe M Borg .. and then we trusted this government and wow what a great success we had!!! he's not good enough to hold his group together!! Why, because he goes overboard with everyone, even within his own group!!! Is this the best your Gonzi can do?
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 18:10
Joe M. Borg: Have you any idea by how much the euro has devalued during the last 2 years or s0 ??? By around 16% !
anthony sultana
Oct 14th 2012, 14:43
This is what the most of the people want,,
Money in the pocket, from a government job and promotions
Every thing free, so they can keep the money for a cruseliner tour.
Free for all life style, specially in their own bedroom.
PL & PN ARE BORING, wait and see.
Jean-Michel Azzopardi
Oct 14th 2012, 14:33
idiot billboards
E. Mifsud
Oct 14th 2012, 14:29
Hafna minn dawn il-kummenti juru li min kitibhom, jew ma segwiex is-surveys ta' qabel elezzjonijiet precedenti, jew nesa. Infatti, fir-rizultati ta' dawn is-surveys dejjem issib li hemm element qawwi ta' dawk li ikunu ghadhom ma ddecidewx lil min se jivvutaw. Fl-ahhar ftit gimghat qabel l-elezzjoni id-distakk bejn iz-zewg partiti l-kbar jibda jonqos. Ir-rizultat finali narawh fl-elezzjoni.
Lucienne Dimech
Oct 14th 2012, 14:24
In a situation where I am not convinced of either party I will not vote. Of course this unless any one party comes up with a real issue. As of today we have a negative campaign where one side criticizes the other without giving any constructure alternatives.
Victor Laiviera
Oct 14th 2012, 14:53
Mental laziness. Why throw away your only chance to make a difference, however small?
Remember - there will still be a Government whether you vote or not. So take the trouble to find out and vote for the best. Or for the least bad, if it comes to that.
Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
joseph borg st john
Oct 14th 2012, 17:18
Victor Laiviera is right don t play Russian Roullete vote P N.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 18:13
Joseph Borg St. John: voting GonziPN would not be "Russian Roulette " ( where there is a chance of survival). It would be willful suicide !
albert pace
Oct 14th 2012, 14:17
The difference will not be by a big margin as soon we will see an increase in mepa permits,tender awards, promisses of tax deductions, letters sent to employees guaranteeing their jobs, people comimg from all over europe to vote even if these never set foot in Malta in the last 5 years, a heavy tv bias, promises of jobs and also threats.
Michael Gatt
Oct 14th 2012, 13:39
Dik hi irsposta ta bejn min jgdeb biss u min ghejd il verta biss
Joe M Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 15:47
I see you live in a world of dreams, Mr Gatt! Or your memory is VERY short! Anyhow, I don't blame you, as the last time that we had a taste of MLP was more than a generation ago. If PL NEVER lie, can you explain to me why they have been in refused by the electorate for election after election? Dream on, and don't wake up.
Joe Smith
Oct 14th 2012, 18:07
@Joe M Borg .. you're living in a dream your self. When you wake up, you'll find JM and PL in government and Labour WILL work!!
Charles Vella
Oct 14th 2012, 13:34
I am not happy with the PN, however I cannot trust Labour who brought our islands to it's knees in their 22 months of government which kicked off in 1996, and this, when there was no economic recession and global economies where booming etc...
Labour brought Malta to a total stand with it's wrong decitions and with almost 22% Unemployment in 1998!! The rate of unemployment Spain has today!!
C Busuttil
Oct 14th 2012, 18:12
Your comments are Another example why people are leaving the PN -
22% ? taf x'int tghid jew !
One of the reasons Labour lost was quite similar to the one harming the PN today - water and electricity bills.
We have not been hit by recession because our banking system is solid however we have been clever enough to self inflict and bring the country to it's knees through those tariffs!
Paul Zammit
Oct 14th 2012, 13:31
indeed ... so I believe .. it's finally PL's turn .. yet, according to me by quite a slim margin and not for more than a single turn (5 years) ... I believe that PL in gov will be quite a passive government. After all, its not that they can do much at this point and if they do anything (such as cutting the energy bills etc) ... it's gonna be big trouble for the nation!! so, better that way :/
C Busuttil
Oct 14th 2012, 18:47
If labour will govern well all the PN propaganda about the violent labour will come to nothing, therefore the PN will lose what has been its main weapon all these years.
Forget the slim margin as never before I have seen the PN so unpopular if not hated. Honestly It will be difficult for labour to perform worse than this gov.
Charles Vella
Oct 14th 2012, 13:27
Misco called me... i told them that it's not their business whome i will be voting for! Does that mean that i'm voting Labour?! NO WAY!!!
Vince Piscopo
Oct 14th 2012, 14:00
Then you will be wasting your vote. Think again.
Joe M Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 15:49
Mr Piscopo, if Mr Vella is wasting his vote, YOU might be wasting your future, as we did in 1996, when we wasted two years.
Lino Maniscalco
Oct 14th 2012, 13:21
At the moment Gonzi and Muscat are like two salesman trying to sell the same product by manipulating the people. In Malta people never learn and things are always the same before every election. The government always hides his problem and the opposition tries to make people believe that everything is upside down and they have the solutions to make people anxious to go voting.
M Farrugia
Oct 14th 2012, 13:17
meta wiehed jara il-bill boards li qed jitwahlu fit-toroq taghna juru li dawn qed jigu indirizzati mhux ghal minn ghandu ftit melh f'mohhu imma ghal dawk li diga huma decizi x'se jaghmlu. Mhux kulhadd jaf li Joe Muscat u shabu mhux qed jghidu xejn, u mhux kullhadd jaf li Gonzi qed jitkellem u jipprova jispjega dak li gamel matul dawn l-ahhar 4 snin u nofs.
M Farrugia
Oct 14th 2012, 13:13
Meta il-MIsco jaghmlu surveys bhal dawn ghandhom jinfurmaw lil dawk li jcemplu li dan qed isir ghax imqabda minn xi gurnal partikulari u mhux jghidulek dawn huma surveys li ahna naghmlu minn zmien ghal zmien. Jiena ghax dahali dubbjju ghalfejn u ghal min kiendan is-survey ma wiegebtx ghad-domani fuq kollox certa domadi huma personali hafna u ma inhoss li ghandhom jsiru.
Philip Pryce
Oct 14th 2012, 13:01
Is it Gonzi and Muscat or Tom and Jerry???
Alex Falzon
Oct 14th 2012, 12:31
Jekk il-PL jitlef din l-elezzjoni: il-kwartieri laburisti jistghu jigu konvertiti jew supermarket jew xi sports complex iehor...
Vince Piscopo
Oct 14th 2012, 14:04
And what if PN lose? Pieta HQ will be turned into a one star hotel or maybe an extension to the recycling implant?
Alex Falzon
Oct 14th 2012, 14:41
@vince piscopo... the PN headquarters will remain intact.... the future of our nation has always and will always come out from those buildings, from people who act for the well-being of us citizens...
C Busuttil
Oct 14th 2012, 18:40
Sur Falzon
Jien ninkwieta fuq il-kwartieri tal-PN u mhux fuq tal-PL. Ghax wara l-elezzjoni ha jkun hemm gwerra shiha, il-biza tieghi hija li l-partit ha jinqasam tant hemm glied. U ejja ma nippruvawx nghidu li huma debono, jpo jew mugliett biss hemm hafna aktar u mhux bilfors kollha ghandhom tort ghax hafna huma dawk li jghidulek li hemm gew hemm klikka li taghmel li trid!!!
clive borg
Oct 14th 2012, 12:26
put at least some decent electoral proposals on your billboards rather than putting non-sense ones....
E. Vassallo
Oct 14th 2012, 15:53
Prosit. It's like seeing the chimps:hear no evil, see no evil....
Mr Kevin Zammit
Oct 14th 2012, 12:15
I'm being very high level with this statement but I am looking at us as maltese from the point of view of having reached a point where we act and behave like a single organism with its own internal conflicts. The problems AS had back then Gonzi is having now. They dealt with them differently because they are different people but in the end the voter will judge their actions
Mr Kevin Zammit
Oct 14th 2012, 12:12
This is going to be the PN's biggest defeat ever in a long time however I still do not expect a huge gap. There are too many young minds that have obviously do not have an opinion of an un-kown 25 years in opposition. If there is one democratic credit that PL can claim but unfortunately in practice cannot is that when the people did not like the way AS was managing things he was kicked out.
Mr Kevin Zammit
Oct 14th 2012, 12:54
Getting an idea across in a short space is not easy! I blame some fools who get carried away with their comments not the online newspaper.
What I meant is that historically in Malta it is very rare for any party to win with double digits so relative to the high voter turnout the percentage is still modest however by Maltese standards it will still be a big defeat.
M.O. Micallef
Oct 14th 2012, 15:24
...about time Labour win....let us hope that all citizens will be better off when they do...I have my doubts. Many people will vote PL just for the sake of wanting a change; many admit what a good life we have in Malta even foreigners say it....
J Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 12:12
It is likely to be a race between the two major parties, as have been in the past. Personally I think this is unfortunate for our country as there is lack of competition in what the political parties are offering and above all on their actions.
Where is AD?
Alex Falzon
Oct 14th 2012, 12:28
What are you expecting from a small party like AD ...
Robert Agius
Oct 14th 2012, 12:40
waiting for funds, and changes is laws, to be able to compete - democratically! I might happen sooner if a vast no. of voters wake from their slumber.
J Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 12:47
The country needs a drastic change. IMO:
PN is just a dysfunctional party which needs major restructuring and get ;
PL has not yet proven to be a good government and a little to risky too trust;
AD would probably be the best option. They lack governing experience, although they seem to be geared up for.
I'm expecting the next government to be a functional one with least corruption possible.
A Vella
Oct 14th 2012, 12:01
A suvey with such a high amount of no-replies (undecided voters or respondents who do not say how they will vote) is null. Especially when one knows that a very high percentage of the no-replies will be voting. Having said that,I still think that LP is ahead by some 15k votes, mainly due to previous PN voters not voting.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 11:56
" Asked whether they were more likely to vote PN if Dr. Gonzi stepped down after the election, 55 per cent of respondents said No, while 21 per cent said Yes" ! What kind of a question is that ? Did whoever formulated the question, mean that if Dr. Gonzi says that he would be resigning after the election, irrespective whether GonziPN wins or loses, how they would vote now ? Stupid question.
ALBERT FENECH
Oct 14th 2012, 11:51
Not only has this Government harmed Malta by usurping administration when it is clearly unwanted, the Gatt/CC/DCG/Gonzi image is creating untold long-term harm to the democratic process because it has devastatingly tarnished the image of the PN. A democratic country depends on two strong entities, one acting as a buffer against the other. That alas has been infinitely destroyed.
ALBERT FENECH
Mr Michael Piccinino
Oct 14th 2012, 11:43
If 34% will vote L:abour
22% will vote PN
1% will vote AD
22% undecided
8% will not vote
87% is the Total
What about the other 13%???
Alex Falzon
Oct 14th 2012, 12:29
a clear indication that the electorate doesn't want both parties...
B.C. Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 15:24
@ Alex Falzon
Generally, the percentage of voters who did not cast their vote vary from 3% to 5%
So we have two scenarios, either add the 13% with the 22% undecided or the 8% is set to increase.
Joe Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 11:41
the people interviewed don't know what they want because the last paragraph doesn't make any sense! There are people that want an immediate general election and at the same time they want the government to present the budget!
Joseph Apap
Oct 14th 2012, 11:41
I was feeling like a floating voter but after last week when Gino Cauchi lied to One viewersw and me too and also told all the viewer that he has a number of IT gataduates in in communications that he is ready to place at PBS
Sorry Sir I am sure that I will not Trust my vote to the new Labour Movement
I urge Mr Joseph Muscat to take care of what Gino is saying as he he damaging the party
JOSEPH MUSCAT
Oct 14th 2012, 12:43
@Joseph Apap,the only reason you dont trust your vote in the Labour Movement,because YOU expect the labour government to leave the same head of departments,in place during labour administration like A, Sant did so they can be a hindrance for the GOVERNMENT, a floating voter pull the other ONE!!!!!!! .
Ronnie Callus
Oct 14th 2012, 11:38
Kompli sejjer hekk Dr.Gonzi ghax se' nirbhu zgur. Kollox sew ghandna f'kull qasam, fil-Parlament u madwarna. Keep it up, you have strong hands.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 14th 2012, 13:04
Veru, we heard it from Barroso as well.
Ronnie Callus
Oct 15th 2012, 08:55
@ Karl Consiglio:
So much so that we are giving lessons to other EU countries. Have you not heard about it.
Jonathan Camilleri
Oct 14th 2012, 11:36
Statistics issued by the Danish Research Institute indicate that in 2008, Malta had no forced job mobility. That is nobody was forced to change jobs in 2008. Is this true?
J. Debono
Oct 14th 2012, 11:35
Il-PL ghandu r-rebha ta' l-elezzjoni f'idejh.
Jekk jitlef din l-elezzjoni jkun l-iktar partit fallut fid-dinja.
Jekk jirbaghha, ma tkunx bis-sahha tieghu, imma bis-sahha tal-kummiedji kollha li saru mill-PN.
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 14th 2012, 11:28
34% = 170 MLP = 9% of registered voters (1950,000 rounded according to the Electoral Commission Local Councils. 22% = 110 PN = 6%of reg voters. 22% = 110 Undecided. 8% = 40 Not Voting. Total 86%
The rest 14% = 70 = 3.6% of reg voters but missing in the survey. The survey is wrong. If MLP win 3 add seats, they'd represent a 4 to 5% lead on PN. The crux is always the floating voter.
A Tonna
Oct 14th 2012, 11:18
So there are still 22% Maltese citizenz that like to be called 'Cwiec Maltin'?
Carmel Tabone
Oct 14th 2012, 11:11
We will see after the results are published. For now most people say that they will vote for x and then when they are alone in the voting cubicle they will vote for xx.
J Busuttil
Oct 14th 2012, 11:11
22 percent undecided. What would there preference be in an election? Who is usually undecided or does not give his/her preference when asked over the phone?
Food for taught.
Jonathan Camilleri
Oct 14th 2012, 11:09
The UK has introduced a National Minimum Wage, explicitly covering ‘workers’ (not
just ‘employees’), which has addressed some of the most extreme cases of low pay.
Danish Research Institute (2008).
What is Malta planning to do in view of the suggested increases in the minimum wage proposed by Caritas?
What does our next budget have to say about employment conditions and job creation?
Joe Smith
Oct 14th 2012, 11:09
Seems that My Choice of PN is not working and that Labour WILL work!!!
Karl Consiglio
Oct 14th 2012, 11:02
Ok its all becoming just a little bit childish now.
Joe aquilina
Oct 14th 2012, 11:02
I WILL VOTE PL FOR THE FIRST TIME I believe DR MUSCAT
Karl Consiglio
Oct 14th 2012, 12:21
Believe what?
W Cassar
Oct 14th 2012, 12:58
I will be voting Labour for the first time too, but not because I believe in Dr Muscat , but to get rid of Dr Gonzi , I can't stand the man. and his little elves around him.
Nikhail Karl Spiteri
Oct 14th 2012, 21:32
Merhba habib
A Tonna
Oct 14th 2012, 10:56
Attention PL. Be careful and do not underestimate the PN's ability to acquire votes in the last moments. Remember what happened in the last election!
A. Mifsud
Oct 14th 2012, 10:55
If the PN wants to stop the haemorrhage it should stop acting as if we're in the last days of Labour in power in the 1980's. The SPH hospital agreement will be a definate last blow to PN's hopes.
I'm utterly disgusted at the news of continuing developments. This agreement has to be halted. Why are they so afraid of F. Portelli? Is he blackmailing Gonzi? Who's sharing the pocketfull?
Ray Buhagiar
Oct 14th 2012, 10:52
Then I am the odd one out. I will be voting PN instead of PL because so far I haven't heard any solution from Dr Muscat and PL. Whilst many European countries are suffering, we are still going strong. Maltese are still buying property, cars and other luxury items. The negative comments I hear from PL is about Arriva, and the bed shortage at Mater Dei which too me are not enough to vote PL again
Joseph Brincat
Oct 14th 2012, 11:01
Ray Buhagiar
@ Then I am the odd one out. I will be voting PN instead of PL
NO problem there must be same one in the Opposition !!!
A Tonna
Oct 14th 2012, 11:12
Dear Mr Buhagiar,
The Mater Dei issue is not important for you because you did not have your son critically suffering from pneumomia and left for nearly 2 days in the emergency corridors on a stretcher and with several other patients, with God knows what they were suffering from, around him. And besides, witnessing an old man being rushed in another part of the area because his heart stopped !!
Joe Smith
Oct 14th 2012, 11:13
Please don't try and make us believe that you were on PL side before and now you are going to vote PN!!! Of course there will be people like you who will vote PN whatever happens and whatever does, right or wrong PN!!!
But no worries there are also many others who are thinking straight and know that Labour WILL work!!
Freddie Micallef
Oct 14th 2012, 11:28
int kif wasalt ghal din d decizzjoni sur Buhagiar meta l- anqas gonzipn ghadu ma qal xejn ser jaghmel,Sal illum li hu zgur ..gonzipn qied agunija .
Ronnie Callus
Oct 14th 2012, 11:36
Il-problema mhux li qed issemmi int Sur.Buhagiar, imma li d-Demokrazjija fil-Parlament spiccat. Dan qed jghidullu deputati minn tieghu stess. Gonzi dahhal l-Partit fi' sqaq li mghandhux fejn iddur. Messu ilu li ghajjat elezzjoni ghax aktar nies qed jitilquh. Mhemmx Onesta u Sincerita f'dak li jghid Dr.Gonzi. Kliem qalilna hafna imma fatti xejn jew ftit li xejn hlif ghal dawk ta' gewwa.
C. Sammut
Oct 14th 2012, 11:41
What luxury items? Take a walk down Valletta and ask any businesses how they're faring...
ANTHONY PAVIA
Oct 14th 2012, 11:41
Dear Mr Buhagiar, when did you land in Malta?
Eve Axiaq
Oct 14th 2012, 11:44
Gonzipn qed jahbu l problemi tad dejn taht it tapit. Forsi smajt kemm zdied id deficit din is sena biss u xi nghidu l enemalta. Kun af li l buzzieqa fl ahhar trid tinfaqa u awsterita jkollna. Il mod kif gonzi qed jamel l affarjiet lejliet l elezzjoni huwa rresponsabbli arroganti wisq.
David Farrugia
Oct 14th 2012, 11:56
you comment clearly gives you away that indeed you NEVER voted PL or MLP anytime ever in your life.
Mauro Camilleri
Oct 14th 2012, 11:57
I would advise Dr. Muscat not to give any solutions right now but to keep them till the beginning of the electoral campaign. Why? PN might copy them as they did with the BILLBOARDS!! :)) Secondly, all the solutions Im getting from the PN is to how to keep holding on to power.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 11:58
Ray Buhagiar: You should have heard Dr. Muscat' speak this morning. His message was a very important one
Karl Consiglio
Oct 14th 2012, 12:23
Well said Ray!
George Calleja
Oct 14th 2012, 12:59
@ A Tonna
Your reasoning shows how urgent is the need to have the St.Philip Hospital functioning. Your son would have been served much better at Mater Dei. Nowadays the majority are turning to Mater Dei as they are getting the best treatment....for free. That's why many other clinics are closing down because you'll have to pay. Ask the insurance companies.
W Cassar
Oct 14th 2012, 13:00
Ray and behind the curtain we have quite a bit of dept .. the calm before the storm wait and see and it will be PN doing!
B. Cachia
Oct 14th 2012, 10:45
The problem for the PN is not that the PL's lead is widening but that the PN brand is being seriously damaged and may take many years to repair. It will be difficult in future for the Party to rely on its former image of competence and reliability, a 'plug and play' political party whose promises can be trusted and which you can elect and then forget about for five years. All that is history now.
Joe Smith
Oct 14th 2012, 11:21
totally agreed .. PN needs a fresh re-start and this without it's GonziPN counter parts!!
Edward Farrugia
Oct 14th 2012, 10:45
The survey conducted on a sample of 500 constitues about. .2 % of the electorate (assuming it hovers around 240,000). Based on this sample the derivations of percentages is all rubbish.What this survey is all about is to give rise to sensatialism and creat an atmosphere of speculation. The holding of an election giving a definte result is what matters.
John Attard
Oct 14th 2012, 11:02
studying some basic statistics you will realise that it is a true sample.
David Farrugia
Oct 14th 2012, 11:55
proves your lack or academic knowledge regarding statistics, sampling and scientific surveys.
B. Cachia
Oct 14th 2012, 11:59
You might not have heard of the discipline called 'statistics', where you may gain an understanding of a situation by analysing a scientifically selected sample. It's a well-established science used in virtually all fields of activity. In this case, a sample of 500 is quite sufficient, and is in fact often used for this purpose, including in much bigger countries.
Joe Scerri
Oct 14th 2012, 10:40
Entities like MEPA and TM are going to cost the PN a lot of votes for their callous disregard of the common citizen.
Joanna Mifsud
Oct 14th 2012, 10:58
MEPA immexija mil-Prom Ministru w TM min Austin Gatt. Ghandek bzonn iktar spjegazzjoni ghalfejn PN ghandu jinbidel mil-qieh biex forsi nergaw naraw hemm fuq!!!
anthony sultana
Oct 14th 2012, 10:29
Why one want a change in government?
Another 5 years like the previous 5 years, will be boring,mountain of debt,countrysides full of birds killers,close roads due to repairs,new buildings coming up every where,empty houses every where, cost of living going up every month,criminality the order of the day.
PLorLP will they take us to Mintoff era?If no tumb's up,but if yes,WOW dose violent days.
Joanna Mifsud
Oct 14th 2012, 10:39
skuzi ta imma jiena ma rridx immur lura ghal zminijiet ta vjolenza izda jekk vera qed tghix f'dinja tinduna li l-affarijient inbidlu u l-PL ikun vera tuba biex jerga jaqa ghal dawk l-affarijiet meta jaf l-hsara li ghamlulu!!
Jonathan Camilleri
Oct 14th 2012, 11:09
The past is not a reflection of the future.
Ronnie Callus
Oct 14th 2012, 11:53
U mhux dan biss ! Mela lilna l-haddiem iz-zghir jghidilna li mhemmx minn fejn izidna u ghal ta' fuq ghandu, ibda minnhom bil-500euro zjieda fil-gimgha li ta. Jew inkella ghadna kemm bnejna sptar 'State of the Art' li gie jiswa miljuni ta' ewro u wara erba snin jigi jghidilna li ghandna bzonn ta' sptar iehor. L-anqas li Sptar St.Lukes mghamel daqshekk zmien qasir jaqdi lil poplu Malti. Veru talBiki
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 12:01
Anthony Sultana: Imissek tisma x'jghid Dr. Muscat kull mhar ta' Hadd filghodu, bhal ma tkellem dalghodu stess. hemm malajr tinduna kemm hu necessarju ghal pajjizna li jkollna l-bidla fil-gvern.
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 14th 2012, 10:13
Prosit Joseph bis sahha tieghek u bic-cucati ta' GonziPN.
Joseph Micallef
Oct 14th 2012, 10:55
Ezatt.... GonziPN jpacpac biss :)
twanny borg
Oct 14th 2012, 10:13
tlett kwarti iridu li jghaddi l-budget. allura min se jivvota kontra l-budget jekk tlett kwarti tal-poplu jaqblu? dan sinjal li l-ekonomija immexxija minn gonzi hija f'idejn par idejn sodi. aktar ma tkun harxa l-kampanja aktar nies immorru f'postom. x'inhu jipproponi l-pl? irahhas id-dawl u l-ilma lil kulhadd. forsi ghal ftit iva imma jekk ikompli joghla x'jaghmel? is-sinjur jahli u l-fqir ihallas
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 12:03
twaany borg: Il-budget iridu jarawh halli jaraw Gonzi tghallimx ma joqghodx iwieghed is-sema fl-art kif ghamel id-darba l-ohra - 353 weghda tiftakar ????
twanny borg
Oct 14th 2012, 13:16
@eddy privitera: mela insejt meta l-pl zied lm.4 f'daqqa qabel l-elezzjoni u ghamel tlett snin wara ma jzied xejn hlief li rahhas 5 mills it-tonn taz-zejt?
Joe Grech
Oct 14th 2012, 10:10
It's obvious!!! Here's a family voting labour for the very first time!! The problem with the PN is that they do not realize that this huge swing will be taking place.
Their choice.pn or whatever it is, is an utter joke!! Tried it, but got nowhere!!! Instead of addressing me properly with what I suggested in my first message they send automated e-mails which make no sense to me at all.
Mike Larsson
Oct 14th 2012, 09:58
34+22+1+22+8=86...
Geoffrey Farrugia
Oct 14th 2012, 09:55
And this explains why in these last few weeks the government is squandering what is left in the state coffers pleasing not only those in the inner circle of friends but also promising wage increases and other benefits that are unsustainable.
The PN are fully aware that this will mark the end of their 'reign'. With the current attitude the margin will just get wider.
C. Sammut
Oct 14th 2012, 10:55
The problem would be if the budget is passed, what remains in those coffers would all be squandered by election time, and if a Labour government takes over, it would have to start its year in office with no funds available.
Joseph Micallef
Oct 14th 2012, 10:58
Just a slight correct, the PN are fully aware that their regime, brutal dictatorship is coming to an end rather then 'reign' :)
Steve M. Engerer
Oct 14th 2012, 17:28
@ Mr Sammut
deja vu of 1996 when labour took office...
the famous "hofra"
I am already imagining the LP supporters on this site mentioning the "hofra" after the next election when labour will not deliver..
again...
Jonathan Camilleri
Oct 14th 2012, 09:53
There are large differences in the extent of temporary employment across Europe. In 2005, the share
of the workforce who worked under temporary contracts was 5.5% (and decreasing) in the UK, 12.9%
(and increasing) in Italy, and 26.2% (and increasing) in Poland. Job Mobility Report. Has the situation changed in Malta during the past 5 years?
A. Mizzi
Oct 14th 2012, 09:46
And,being FRANKLY FRANK will continue to widen especially with the last deal done with the St. Philip 's Hospital pay-off!
F. Aquilina
Oct 14th 2012, 09:37
What is the margin of error in this survey? Can 500 people represent the whole country?
Joseph Brincat
Oct 14th 2012, 10:44
F. Aquilina
@ Can 500 people represent the whole country?
NO , but the 500 euros he took behind our backs from our taxes
represent the whole country ,DISGUSTING in what he did !!!!
B. Cachia
Oct 14th 2012, 10:49
Yes, 500 is usually a good sample size for this purpose and is used not only in Malta but in much bigger countries as well.
Joe Grech
Oct 14th 2012, 10:54
It's normally + or - 5%. Yes it's reliable.
Joseph Micallef
Oct 14th 2012, 11:00
Rest assured F. Aquilina that, even though there is a margin of error, a survey conducted by MISCO, or any other agency take this into account. Whatever the margin or error, the gap is too wide. 500 respondents sampling is very very good and reliable.
F. Aquilina
Oct 14th 2012, 11:23
Thanks B. Cachia - I don't understand statistics so I needed some info!
Mr Brincat, I will not waste my time replying to your statement.
Joe Borg
Oct 14th 2012, 11:43
at this stage yes
David Farrugia
Oct 14th 2012, 11:52
Yes, In a country the size of Malta a 500 group sample has a margin or error of + or - 4.5%.
Either way the margin goes, GonziPN is as good as dead.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 14th 2012, 12:06
F. Aquilina: If public opinion surveys are not credible, the political parties all over the world, including GonziPn, wouldn't carry them out
Mike Larsson
Oct 14th 2012, 12:37
the sample is good size provided it has been chosen well and error margin should be round 5%. But there is more than size of the sample and error margin, (and the mysterious missing 14%): a poll made not immediate before an election may reflect a temporary dissatisfaction in this case with the PN, but it does not mean this is how people will actually vote, only voting day counts.
Mike Larsson
Oct 14th 2012, 12:41
the survey was made by telephone, I assume fixed line. In the EU parliament elections in Sweden 2009 all surveys missed completely a party which got 7,1% of the votes! Why? Young voters did not have fixed line telephone numbers. Lots of things can go wrong with polls...
George Cassar
Oct 14th 2012, 09:37
GonziPN the writing is on the wall!!!
j brincat
Oct 14th 2012, 09:35
And to think of all the spins about the minimum wage.
Does GonziPN know what has been frozen?
It's his popularity as gauged by the polls!
And the gap is bound to widen following the St Philip's deal.
(jb)
R. Balzan
Oct 14th 2012, 09:35
If we take the 294,214 valid votes of the 2008 election, a 12% gap equates to 35,000 plus votes. And the longer the PM procrastinates, the wider it gets. Also note that since Simon Busuttil announced his candidature 3 months ago, the gap widened by some 3%. Food for thought.
Victor Vella
Oct 14th 2012, 09:21
Kif qatt tista` f`Malta taghmel analizi fuq survey meta dan il-pajjiz kulhadd jibza` mill-babaw? Is-surveys politici f`Malta ma huma xejn hlief ideja mawgha li tiddritta biss meta il-poplu jmur jivvota. Pero nemmen li jekk dan il-pajjiz irrid jibqa` jghix f`gidba jivvota mhux PN izda ghall-oligargija ta` qerq ta` hazen jismghu GonziPN.
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