Portelli's insistence to sign deal sounds arrogant - JPO
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando said this morning it was ridiculous of Frank Portelli to suggest that he asked for the St Philip’s Hospital deal to be subjected to parliamentary scrutiny because of his close ties to Richard Cachia Caruana.
Dr Pullicino Orlando was referring to comments by Dr Portelli made in The Times today (see http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121013/local/Hospital-owner-says-deal-is-valid.440790).
He said that Dr Portelli’s close ties with Mr Cachia Caruana, however, together with the fact that Dr Portelli used to be a Nationalist MP and the President of the party in government, made his insistence that government should plough ahead and sign the deal sound arrogant, to say the least.
Dr Pullicino Orlando said that he felt that the €12 million should be debated in Parliament for a number of reasons including that unless a related motion that was presented in Parliament was debated, government would not be treating the highest institution in the country with the respect due.
Moreover, many taxpayers, who were ultimately the ones footing the bill, were asking why the government was to spend millions on the rehabilitation of an abandoned private hospital when St Luke's, could be rehabilitated at a fraction of the price.
A number of related issues also required clarification, notably whether a proper study had been carried out in relation to the cost involved to rehabilitate a hospital which had been abandoned for years.
“The fact that Dr Portelli seems reluctant to allow journalists to see the state the hospital only serves to cast further doubts on this particular issue.
“Had an agreement been reached last Thursday, Parliament could have discussed the matter on Monday and all these issues could have been clarified prior to government formalising the deal.”
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Tonio Bugeja
Oct 13th 2012, 19:06
I wonder why the owner is reluctant to allow jouranalsits to tour the premises...
And Journalists-PLEASE DO US A SERVICE- THOSE OF THE TIMES INCLUDED!!!!!!
Get a medical expert with you to give an assessment of the medical equipemnt which is LIGHT YEARS OLD (in terms of this stuff) to say what kind of raw deal the country will be lumbered with!
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 13th 2012, 19:03
The Battle of the Saints 3
Comparing like with like it will be approximately 3 times more expensive to take the St.Philips option against the upgrading of St.Lukes. Besides St Lukes is much more spacious and have the possibility to fit much more amenities. Trying to ridicule the PL can 2BFrank tell us where the private/public partnership is in this deal? Mhux kulhadd ghadu cuc Frank.
Peter Agius
Oct 13th 2012, 18:31
JPO calling people arrogant..........amazing.
Victor Vella
Oct 13th 2012, 17:58
Arroganti min minn wara dahar il-poplu mar jaghmel kuntratt illegali meta il-poplu ta` Malta kellu jigi nfurmat permezz tal-Parlament. Minn jaf x`kont taghmel int Poretlli li kieku kont fil-Partit nazzjonalista fil-Parlament u fil-gvern hemm il-Lejber? Tkomplux tqarqu. M`ahniex cwiec. Tkomplux tilghabu bl-intelligenzja tal-poplu.
j brincat
Oct 13th 2012, 17:55
@Joe Tabone
"Labour have been bragging about waiting lists for ages. PN have come up with a partial solution but what is LABOUR offering??"
No problem about this deal as long as it is scrutinised in Parliament?
(jb)
Joe Tabone
Oct 13th 2012, 17:40
Labour have been bragging about waiting lists for ages. PN have come up with a partial solution but what is LABOUR offering??
Joseph Brincat
Oct 13th 2012, 18:10
Joe Tabone
The point is not what is LABOUR offering??
the point is that Gonzi pn is always trying to do things behind the majority in parliament
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 18:42
Joe Tabone: Pl is offering an honest, hard working, transparent administration with the right priorities - the interest of the Maltese people first and foremost. And not the interest of the few .
Joseph Camilleri
Oct 13th 2012, 18:43
Labour is offering a policy clean of corruption. Can you tell us which is the better St. Lukes or St. Philips. But now we understand who is involved. This is like the purchase of Dar Malta in Brussels...eh?
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 18:44
Jioe Tabone: U l-waiting lists tghati kasdhom lejliet l-elezzjoni ? Ma tisthux ?!
ANTHONY PAVIA
Oct 13th 2012, 18:47
Certainly not such a questionable, black-smoke-choked deal as this seems to be! Signing it first, and then having it scrutinized simply adds to people's suspicions that not all is above board. After all this is taxpayers monies that are being wasted.
What is it that the Government and Portelli are so afraid of, that they insist on signing first??? Then it will be too late for corrections.
j brincat
Oct 13th 2012, 17:36
@Joe M Borg
"What I find arrogant and ridiculous JPO's position!
We have been bombarded by the media about the problem with Mater Dei: many patients have to stay in the corridor because of overcrowding"
So, are you agreeing that the state of art was a fiasco?
So, why no resignations - that's what I find arrogant!
(jb)
Joseph Brincat
Oct 13th 2012, 17:27
Way , way way ????
Gonzi pn is always trying to do things behind the majority in parliament
ACTA behind the parliament
500 eures behind the parliament
car parks plans.behind the parliament
St Philip’s Hospital deal behind the parliament
pat muscat
Oct 13th 2012, 17:23
Mhux ahjar jipprova isolvi it-tahwid fil-partit tieghu l-Prim Ministru l-ewwel u qabel kollox: milli jipprova isolvi l-problemi ta Dr Frank Portelli ukoll?
cesco di luigi
Oct 13th 2012, 17:19
When an accountant evaluates projects there are techniques that fall under the heading: capital investment decisions. These are used to compare two or more alternatives and then evaluate. It's not a difficult exercise but one has to gather a lot of information. A good accountant will evaluate more than one possibiltiy and be prepared to show his figures to the shareholders........that's US.
Mr l Azzopardi
Oct 13th 2012, 17:13
Dear Government just because you are probably going to lose the election does not mean that you have to put this country to its knees before your departure!
Paul Micallef
Oct 13th 2012, 16:16
Ma nistax nifhem kif Mr Bussutil li ha kun leader tal Pn jaqtahha li taht il-Gvern gdid tal PL ha konna BAIL OUT ????? Jekk ikonna minhabba id-dejn li ha jiret il-PL. Lets see some figures, 80 milion for that GALLINAR tal hammiem, 20 milion to keep 2BFs mouth shut, 60 milion just before the election for the civil, what else, well thats already170 milion. I do not have any characters left.
Joe M Borg
Oct 13th 2012, 16:07
What I find arrogant and ridiculous JPO's position!
We have been bombarded by the media about the problem with Mater Dei: many patients have to stay in the corridor because of overcrowding. Some even called Gonzipn 'arrogant' because he was not doing anything about the problem. Well, NOW he IS trying to plug the gap, and we call him arrogant! Perhaps we should build a hospital in Mistra, JPO.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 16:35
Joe M. Borg: What is there that should not be shown to parliament ? That is the big question.
Alfred Fenech
Oct 13th 2012, 17:11
I smell a fish....
A.Felex Busuttil
Oct 13th 2012, 15:47
1. The government should have invested the cost in his own property at St Lukes, The cost of st Philip to increase the beds from 107 to 275 is going to cost millions just for 8 years.
This is a venture to close the real Frank Portelli 's mouth and may be he starts organizing parties like he did in the last election. I was one of the fishes but not this time.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 13th 2012, 15:31
THE BATTLE OF THE SAINTS
Are the 12 million euros rent just the tip of the iceberg? Yesterday Profs Fenech the well respected heart surgeon and prospective PN candidate revealed on ONE TV that to furnish St.Lukes hospital would cost about forty million euros. A figure the country could not afford as St.Philip was a bargain at 12 million euros. Profs I totally disagree with your maths.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 13th 2012, 16:12
@JimmyVentura
It is your maths that needs revision. Twelve million euro for the acquisition of a new hospital by government makes more sense than fortymillion euro spent to reactivate a disused hospital that is already government property.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 16:36
Franvis Saliba: How did you arrive at your €40 million figure to refurbish St. LUke's. Are you also an architect besides M.D. ?
cesco di luigi
Oct 13th 2012, 17:13
I though he was a heart specialist not a cost accountant. Profs, as an accountant myself I would not go cutting up other people's chests, so stick to your profession for which you have earned yourself an enviable reputation but keep away from cost accounting and project appraisal....just because you are an aspiring politician doesn't mean you can do everything!!!!
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 17:48
Issa ndunajt: Francis Saliba M.D. ikkwota li qal il-Profs. Fenech il-bierah f'Affari Taghna. Jista jghidilna minn fejn gieb din il-figura ? Xorta jibqa l-fatt li kuntratt bhal dan, lejliet elezzjoni ghandu jigi skrutinat mil-public accounts committee u mill-awditur generali, biex inkunu certi li flus il-poplu mhux se jintefqu hazin.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 13th 2012, 17:55
@ Francis Saliba
Sorry to tell you but you're hopeless in maths. 12 M is just the rent for just 8 years. If we opt to buy it it is another 9.8 M. If we have to build a 90-bed extension only god knows how much it will cost. All this for a 200 bed building. According to profs Fenech to refurbish St.Lukes an 800 and not just 200 bed hospital with bigger parking space will cost 40 M. Fhimt?
Malcolm Mifsud
Oct 13th 2012, 15:23
Personally I would prefer upgrading St Luke's. It's bigger and it would be a shame to let it deteriorate. To have a state-of-the-art hospital that went millions over the projected budget inherit the same problems St Luke's was facing should have had heads rolling a long time ago. This is our money we're talking about.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 13th 2012, 15:17
Il-qattusa ghaggelija frieh ghomja twelled.
My vote is not for sale.
carlos ellul
Oct 13th 2012, 14:48
JPO is right. This deal must be scrutinized to make sure that there are no irregularities. As a champion of accountability Dr Portelli will surely see the light and finally acknowledge this need. Lets be frank Frank we need to that.
Carmel Camilleri
Oct 13th 2012, 14:43
It is rich of JPO to talk like this when everyone knows his secret deal of the Mistra scandal which nearly cost the NP the Government. EVeryone now knows his agenda and his credibility is now zero..
jimi Xerri
Oct 13th 2012, 15:34
Well stated Mr Camilleri.
JPOS's arrogance during this legislation was his private members bill on divorce. As fas as I know this was not part of the electoral manifesto of the PN for the last election, but surely an agenda within his personal manifesto as was later confirmed by his actions.
A.Felex Busuttil
Oct 13th 2012, 15:44
Mistra was a private venture, there was no government property involved like St philip
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 13th 2012, 14:33
The battle of the saints 2. 12 million is just the rent. 9.8 millon if we are to buy it after 8 years. This add up to 21.8 M. There is a cost to renovate a hospital which has been closed for 2 years. To build the extension of about 80 to 100 beds will cost quite some millions. So with the final price of a 200 bed hospital one can upgrade St.Lukes an 800 bed hospital. The latter is a bargain,
Alfred Formosa
Oct 13th 2012, 15:35
Everybody seems to be oblivious to the fact that St. Luke's Hospital has been decommissioned and now houses Malta Enterprise and several related government departments.
stephen koludrovic
Oct 13th 2012, 16:14
Malta Enterprise could very easily be relocated to the famous Smart city.
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 13th 2012, 14:23
With GonziPN now arrogance is the order of the day.
Tonio Bone
Oct 13th 2012, 14:36
Lawrence I agree with you in part. The Prime Minister is arrogant, granted! Was Alfred Sant arrogant? Was Dom Mintoff arrogant? Could it be that it is an incurable virus in politics?
stephen koludrovic
Oct 13th 2012, 16:16
' tonio, No I do not think that Sant was arrogant.
Tonio Bone
Oct 13th 2012, 16:52
Matter of opinion Stephen which I respect all the way!
Michael Campbell
Oct 13th 2012, 14:17
JPO calling FP arrogant is a bit rich. The pot calling the kettle black.
If one were to avoid personal attacks and simply state the fact - this deal stinks.
The government has burdened us with a massive debt with little or nothing to show for it (very poor infrastructure, terrible irregularities, poor decisions, questionable judgement).
Were does Malta rank in the corruption list in Europe?
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 13th 2012, 13:57
Jista' min hu koncernat jgharrafna fejn wasal dan il-progett ta' Zammit Clapp li kellu jiftah kmieni din is-sena:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111208/local/Elderly-people-to-top-151-000-by-year-2050.397330
A Said
Oct 13th 2012, 13:47
12million rent in 8 years - 4109euros rent a day!! Not bad for FRank right!!! AFter all that's what friends are for hux!!
Ivan Lomax
Oct 13th 2012, 13:35
maaaaaa xtahwiiidddddd!!!!
Joe Busuttil
Oct 13th 2012, 13:24
Let's be Frank and hold an open day so that anyone can see if the hospital that Gov.wants to buy so desperately ,and its condition. And why is the Gov. refusing to publish the details?
Tonio Bugeja
Oct 13th 2012, 13:13
No wonder there is no place for those who do not RUBBER STAMP things and were booted from contesting the election. No BEAN SPILLERS! So that is how responsibly our taxes are spent eh? You cannot be more generous with taxpayer`s money. AS for the boot lickers in this blog who condone anything, feels like they do not pay any taxes. NERUNI QED JIFRAH JARA MALTA TINHARAQ!
J Martinelli
Oct 13th 2012, 13:06
JPO should be the last to talk about arrogance.
Neither Dr. Portelli nor the government lied about the deal or amount of compensation expected to be paid and received for leasing the hospital.
Nobody lied to the Prime Minister or the public. We all know the facts BEFORE the deal is signed and no one needed 'coaching'.
Paul@ Micallef
Oct 13th 2012, 17:50
This is not a question of who is arrogant. The argument is why St Philip Hospital? Why €12 million?
You said 'We all know the facts BEFORE the deal is signed...' You Mr Martinelli must have close ties then with the Government or Dr Portelli because so far no details of the contract have been published. And so far NO ONE had a look inside the hospital to verify its worthiness.
Anthony A. Mifsud
Oct 13th 2012, 13:06
Lets be Frank! Do you think it's right the way most people reason is this way DrFrank. Lets put the contract for scrutiny, and if all is line, the deal is yours and no one is dinning you your rights , that is all.
You know perfectly well how these contracts works...
Ninu
Tonio Bugeja
Oct 13th 2012, 12:56
Can somebody enlighten us if these things are the order of the day? and if it were not for Franco, JPO, Mugliette and any DISGRUNTLED BACKBENCHER, we would have known nothing!!!! Which makes me conclude WHY this GONZIPN contraption has ratched up BILLIONS in debt and wait for it..... BAILOUT MALTA when the TRUE state of AFFAIRS is dug from under the carpet..... I am holding my breath
Joe Tabone
Oct 13th 2012, 14:11
@ Tonio,
Why do we have an Opposition in Parliament?
Why have they been in Opposition for so long..................??
Michael Seychell
Oct 13th 2012, 12:48
Dr. Jeffrey Pullicino - is this a case where the 'kettle is calling the pot black' ?
Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 13:16
Michael: I would rather think that the kettle knows a lot about the pot, and just can't trust it any longer !
John B. Borg
Oct 13th 2012, 13:37
Leave kettles and pots in the kitchen where they belong Mr Seychell. The arguments brought up by Dr Pulllicino Orl]rlando and like minded persons about this yet another show of arrogance by all concerned - of course' primarily Gonzi PN are very strong indeed. Defending the PN government who, in your eyes , can do no wrong is a totally futile exercise
M Grima
Oct 13th 2012, 17:14
Is it really possible that passion gets the better of you? How can you defend GonziPN when we are surrounded with all these fiascos, which incidentally are paid from our hard earned taxes which you and I both contribute? JPO may have erred in the past but should he sit tight and say nothing? After all he is an independent member of parliament who your beloved PN has a coaliotion with. Unbelievable
George Azzopardi
Oct 13th 2012, 12:47
Let's be Frank .. issa mhux qed jghid izjed kontra GonziPN.
Let's be Frank ma GonziPN kollox possibli!
joseph borg st john
Oct 13th 2012, 14:39
@ Eddy P thats rich coming from you when in your time when all the ministers used to be either KETTLES or POTS .
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 16:43
Joseph Borg St.John: The time you mention was when I sighed a sigh of relief knowing that when I come to my retiring age I find a pension. Which I have been enjoying now for almost 14 years !!! And you will too when you reach retiring age, if you haven't reached it already ! And that pension was introduced by, what you think ,were " kettles and pots " !!!
joseph borg st john
Oct 13th 2012, 21:24
'@ Eddy P I m glad that you have reached that canny age God bless you and i m glad that although this goverment is so faulty has been taking good care of you for the last 14 ,years and yet you sound so ungrateful bless your cotton socks.
ALFRED BRIFFA
Oct 13th 2012, 12:46
Ara min irid jghajjar lin-nies b'arroganza!! JPO...int bis-serjeta qed titkellem???
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 13th 2012, 12:42
Given that St.Likes/Karen Grech Hospital is being touted as an alternative to St.Philips, can we be assured that St.Lukes (and even Karen Grech) are asbestos - free ?
John Zammit
Oct 13th 2012, 13:19
So what's the problem We had a foreign team at the Dry docks in the last 10 years of existence and they had the knowledge to clean it all
cesco di luigi
Oct 13th 2012, 13:47
And if not, is it that difficult to remove asbestos?
B. Cachia
Oct 13th 2012, 12:24
Wouldn't it make more sense for such decisions to be taken in a few weeks' time by a government (of whatever party) that actually enjoys a majority in Parliament and has a fresh electoral mandate? It's not seemly for decisions like these to be taken in a rush before an election.
Henry Mifsud
Oct 13th 2012, 12:22
It is more than evident that Government no longer enjoys the luxury of dealing with any issue, let alone sensitive issues such as this one. Unfortunately even if such attempts are genuine they are seen to be laced with favouratism especially under the present circumstances. Time has simply expired. Period!
Isn't it really time for GonziPN to call it a day? Honestly ....
Quo Vadis Malta?
Joe Tabone
Oct 13th 2012, 12:22
Who was it in LABOUR that had mentioned Private-Public-Partnerships between Government and private sector?.....................LABOUR WON'T WORK!
George Azzopardi
Oct 13th 2012, 13:07
ma GonziPN kollox possibli
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 13:20
Joe Tabone: If evrything is above board, why not accept to have this contract debated in parliament and ,preferably, left to the incoming government to conclude, if this is truly being done in the interest of the country, and not in the interest of GonziPN and Frank Portelli ?
R Axisa
Oct 13th 2012, 14:08
nahseb insejt il-kelma trasparenza - mhux sew dawn l-affarijiet isiru minn wara dahar il-poplu . Li jkun hemm private-public partnership hija tajba, IMMA bit-trasparenza! Taghmel differenza enormi.
Joseph Grech Attard
Oct 13th 2012, 14:11
Private-public-partnerships already exist. Look at the good maintenance of roundabouts, etc. This deal is different. It is GonziPN - Clique - partnership. SLH is still there and can be used. Citizens are fed up paying taxes for bad management and subsequent enrichment of a 'clique', while the country, slowly but steadily, heads towards disaster.
m. borg (slm)
Oct 13th 2012, 14:23
Who said that Private-Public-Partnership meant splurging the public money with the private without parliamentary scrutiny.
You kind simply parrot all the drivel the gonzipn spin doctors churn out without even giving a thought on what you are writing.
Darn Ss
robert pace
Oct 13th 2012, 16:05
Well seems Gonzi doesnt work after all? Hes had a long summer break and now all he and his henchmen have done was argue in vain!! Labour is just wairting to take their pole positiona and start the work in this petty shameful state the Pn has left. God knows what a mess in the financial situation there definetly is??
George Cassar
Oct 13th 2012, 12:17
Is this a bail out ?!
Joseph Grech Attard
Oct 13th 2012, 12:16
GonziPN is doing its utmost to create new problems daily so as to have an excuse to cling to power till the last moment!! As hapenned in1971, when there was no money left to pay salaries, the government is stretching the country's finances to extremes so as to make it difficult for a possible PL govt to start its governance smoothly, contrary to what happened in 1987!! This is evil impersonated.
Joseph Brincat
Oct 13th 2012, 13:10
YOU ARE RIGHT
A Vella
Oct 13th 2012, 12:15
Only jealous people and people with an agenda would think that this deal is not a win-win situation. But then again, jealousy and self interest form the bulk of the majority of the natives on this tiny piece of land.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 13th 2012, 13:45
Your are correct. A win-win situation for the owners of the hospital and its creditors.
cesco di luigi
Oct 13th 2012, 13:49
Sure. 2 B Frank I know who will win -win most out of this.
m. borg (slm)
Oct 13th 2012, 14:25
Please explai the win-win situation you managed to concoct.
William Caligari
Oct 13th 2012, 12:13
Ghala certi kummenti qed jahbu l-fatt li fiz-zmien Dr Sant kien Prim.Ministru
fl-1996, kien zied sular iehor malli kien hemm fuq Mater Dei.
Wara gew ghorrief aktar, li l-lum qed jonfqu 12 il-miljun ewro,meta,dawn
ghalqu l-access li jista jitla sulari ohra fuq Mater Dei?
Kieku ma garax hekk, lanqas kienet tqum is-saga St.Philip Hospital.
Louis Pace
Oct 13th 2012, 12:05
Just thinking out loud is .... to pay €12M for a lease..... We want to know everything who pays the electricity and the staff are there any standing bills to be paid.
Just a small not to this Government give him €4m and close the deal any bills not paid till now he pays before the signed deal.
Tell him take it or leave it I'm sure he has no way to get a better deal any where else....
M Grima
Oct 13th 2012, 11:59
Why should anyone think, just for a second, that there is anything shady in this deal?
Eddy Privitera
Oct 13th 2012, 13:23
M. Grima: Because of other contracts entered into by GonziPN - B.W.S.C., Fairmount, Arriva, Arms etc... !!!
M Grima
Oct 13th 2012, 11:58
The PN's and their friends panic button has become the order of the day.
Franco Farrugia
Oct 13th 2012, 12:13
What 'friends of the PN'? Frank Portelli? Truly you haven't heard or read him lately, the way he writes and speaks of the PN!
George Azzopardi
Oct 13th 2012, 13:22
@Franco Farrugia .. let's sk to realityee how he speaks now .. can't you come out of your dream and get back to reality. GonziPN is basically shutting another mouth with 33 pieces of silver because it's election time!!!
M Grima
Oct 13th 2012, 11:57
Dr. Portelli and his close affiliates thinks this is Yemen and not Malta.
Tonio Bone
Oct 13th 2012, 11:57
For the common taxpaying citizen it is highly unacceptable that barely 5 years after a Euro 500 million general hospital facility is opened we have a requirement to go to this expense. Its not that the population has increased dramatically! ACCOUNTABILITY! PLANNING! TRANSPARENCY! LOGIC!
Being a failed enterprise owned by an ex-PN MP does not make it look any better does it?
M Grima
Oct 13th 2012, 11:56
Once we had 'torri ta Babel' now we have GonziPN.
This sick party never ceases to amaze and if you're thinking you've seen it all, you'll be mistaken!!!
Austin grech
Oct 13th 2012, 11:55
It should not be signed, as it is too close to an election. This is not what is good for the nation, but, good for the few
R Axisa
Oct 13th 2012, 11:55
suppost jezistu certi kundizzjonijiet meta taghti ' direct contract' - ghax dan mhu xejn inqas minn hekk.
Charles Massa
Oct 13th 2012, 11:49
Imissu l-gvern li ma ghandux maggoranza, imussu l -ewwel mar il-parlament biex igib l-awtorizzazzjoni u wara jekk tghaddi iffirma l konvenju. Wara kollox xi studji saru biex naraw jekk din id deal hux vjabbli jew le? Ma ninsewx li 4 snin ilu GONZIPN ftahar li ghandna sptar state of the art u wara periodu qasir dan l isptar mhux jaqdi l funzjoni tieghu.
stephen koludrovic
Oct 13th 2012, 12:21
It never functioned properly from day !
P Mangion
Oct 13th 2012, 11:48
If dr Portelli is so keen in selling his property fast and without any hinderance, he should have continued discussing the sale with the reported foreign group.
David Bezzina
Oct 13th 2012, 11:45
If there is nothing to hide,the government should publish the deal agreed with Mr.Portelli for the sake of transparency.
If there is nothing wrong in the deal,the government should have no problem in publishing it.
j brincat
Oct 13th 2012, 11:43
@Joe Tabone
"Funny how JPO Smith has the cheek to call other people arrogant, when he was elected under the PN ticket and has now strayed to an independent MP"
Have you forgotten that we live in a democracy or at least we used to do so up to some tome ago!
And aren't you being funny by adding the Smith?
Why be a copycat like someone (and also like the PN billboards)?
(jb)
Joe Tabone
Oct 13th 2012, 12:14
@ J Brincat,
I didn't add the Smith.................... did i ?
Is your idea of democracy equivalent to betraying your constituents?? All MPs are free to contest elections under their party ticket of choice or as independents.
Joseph Borg
Oct 13th 2012, 11:33
WELL DONE JPO! We'll miss you come next legislature...unless you make your own party that would CERTAINLY get my vote.
Joe Tabone
Oct 13th 2012, 12:07
@J Borg,
I very much doubt the JPO Smith will set up his own party. May I remind you that JPO Smith decided to call it a day when it was evident (polls) that he lost his popularity.
It's so easy to sit back and be populist, but the electorate are cautious with these MPs...............remember when Wenzu Mintoff went from MLP to AD!
saviour frendo
Oct 13th 2012, 11:31
is this another case of hbieb tal hbieb or what???????
Tony DeBattista
Oct 13th 2012, 12:48
staqsi lil Frank Portelli what happened sur Tbone!!!!! filli 4 snien shah jattakka lil pn left right and center u issa fdaqqa wahda ergajna paci. KEMM MA TISTHUX!!!!!!!!!
Pippo De Marco
Oct 13th 2012, 11:25
For sale:
Once-prestigious Private Hospital. One careful(?) Owner.
To be sold as seen from the outside. - No time wasters - Only serious taxpayers should apply.
Please note that this exclusive property can only be acquired through the Sole Agent (The Government)
Price: A snip for a mere €12M (absolutely not negotiable).
D Axisa
Oct 13th 2012, 11:21
Yesyerday the Minister Dr J. Cassar asked M.LColeiro if a future PL governemtn will be bringing before parlament. I say YES that's how things should be for the sake of TRANSPERANCY.
R. Balzan
Oct 13th 2012, 11:21
Dr Portelli's comments and his eagerness to see the transaction done without any parliamentary scrutiny is not only arrogant but it also smacks fishy and does not help to lower the people's sky-high perception of sleaze and corruption in our institutions.
J Cauchi
Oct 13th 2012, 11:19
Well done and wsell said JPO. If Dr Frank Porttelli, ex Presient of the PN Executive is so sure, that his hospital is another 'STATE OF THE ART HOSPITAL' why is he so reluctant in allowing the journalists to view his private hospital. Yes I fully agree, as a taxpayer that the deal should be thoroughly examined and debated in Parliament prior being signed.
j brincat
Oct 13th 2012, 11:17
“Had an agreement been reached last Thursday, Parliament could have discussed the matter on Monday and all these issues could have been clarified prior to government formalising the deal.”
What is GonziPN afraid of?
Why all this filibustering?
Is it because if a vote is taken if would be proof to the world that GonziPN has NO majority?
(jb)
Joseph Camilleri
Oct 13th 2012, 11:11
vengeance is in the air jef anything to avenge our pride
where have all the ethics gone? still in your university books?
Joe Tabone
Oct 13th 2012, 11:08
Funny how JPO Smith has the cheek to call other people arrogant, when he was elected under the PN ticket and has now strayed to an independent MP.
R Axisa
Oct 13th 2012, 11:58
Arroganti ghax qed jitlob ghat-trasparenza f'isem il-poplu??? Mur gib li kieku dawn l-affarijiet mhux qed isiru mill-PN - kieku min jaf x'qed tghid!!
Adriano Spiteri
Oct 13th 2012, 11:06
The GonziPN faction (circle of friends)... for you
E. Vassallo
Oct 13th 2012, 11:00
We would prefer the scrutiny on the Mistra contract as well
George Calleja
Oct 13th 2012, 12:43
Very well said! JPO is calling others arrogant when he's master of arrogance himself. Spite, arrogance, hatred have become the order of the day...and it will surely increase with a change of government. The opposition has been piling whole files of vindicativeness for the last 14 years.
pat muscat
Oct 13th 2012, 10:58
Dr Gonzi's stability is oozing out by the minute; does Malta deserve all this?
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 13th 2012, 11:51
It certainly doesn't deserve the old Labour Ministers. No one seems to want to answer WHY these people who brought so much destruction to the island are still there. Labour will NOT change.
J CamilleriJC
Oct 13th 2012, 12:31
@ Anthony
You comment does not justify PN's actions. People must take responsibility!
pat muscat
Oct 13th 2012, 14:28
@Anthony Scicluna: Destruction is brought about when a country has spendthrift governments who are irresponsible enough to go from one deficit to an other (for 25 years) and pile a mountain of debt too huge to contemplate. Old Labour was a miser and hoarded up wealth: GonziPN, on the other hand, is just a 'big spender' as the authorTheophilus London says so well in the lyrics of his famous song
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