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JPO suggests acquisition of St Philip's should be halted until parliamentary debate

No agreement on car parks debate

Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando suggested today that the acquisition of St Philip's Hospital by the government should be halted until a motion for review of the process was debated by parliament.

The motion was presented by Franco Debono yesterday and the Opposition this morning indicated its agreement with it.

Dr Pullicino Orlando made his remarks as the House Business Committee met to discuss the agenda of the House and set a date for the debate on an Opposition motion on the privatisation of car parks. Dr Debono has said he will amend the motion to turn it into a no-confidence vote in Transport Minister Austin Gatt.

Leader of the House Tonio Borg also proposed that the Opposition debate on the privatisation of car parks should start on November 8 and continue on alternate Thursdays. The Opposition disagreed and proposed October 18, 25 October or November 1 but no agreement was reached.

At the beginning of the meeting, Dr Borg proposed that the House should early next week conclude the debate on the Fiscal Compact ratification.

That would be followed by the conclusion of the debate on the theatre classification bill followed by the debates on the IVF Bill and a bill on appeals from decisions of the Family Court.

He explained that there were were some doubts about whether there was a right to appeal from the Family Court and the government wanted to clarify that such a right to appeal existed.

Next on the agenda would be the Guardianship Bill for people with disabilities and a Bill on constitutional amendments to raise the retirement age of judges to 68. There was agreement with the opposition on this constitutional amendment. The House would also need to debate the Cohabitation Bill.

Opposition whip Joe Mizzi said the Opposition did not want to disrupt the government's programme, but felt that time should also be found for debate of private business, including the Opposition motion. The government should say when it intended to present the Budget.

Dr Borg said the Budget date had not been set yet, but it would be in November.

Dr Anglu Farrugia said the purpose of this meeting was to discuss the date for debate of the Opposition motion on the privatisation of the car parks.  Last Monday, the government proposed November 12 for the debate, which the Opposition considered far too distant.

Dr Borg said there was never a legislature with so many debates on private motions. Since Standing Orders spoke of Opposition business on alternate Thursdays, he was proposing that the debate on the opposition's motion should start on November 8, continuing on the following alternate Thursday.

Dr Debono said his bill on party funding was urgent and should be debated as it was being awaited by GRECO, the Council of Europe committee on the issue. He also had another four motions awaiting debate.

If the government was saying that its business was urgent, why did Parliament have such long summer holidays? The bill on raising the retirement age of judges stemmed from his own motion on reforms of the justice sector and this should be debated first.

His motion for review of the proposed acquisition of St Philip's Hospital was also urgent.

Dr Debono said he would not chase anyone. The government was in a mess of its own making and he had been clear about his position.

Dr Pullicino Orlando said the urgency to hold the budget debate would no longer exist if the motion on no confidence in Dr Gatt was debated. He said the motion on the leasing of St Philip's Hospital was justified in many people's minds. Why not allocate the same funds on St Luke's instead of a private hospital? He felt that Dr Borg should assure the House that the government would take no further action on the acquisition of St Philip's until the motion was debated.

Dr Borg said the government was not against parliamentary scrutiny, and the issue of St Philip's should be referred to the Public Accounts Committee. 

Dr Pullicino Orlando insisted that the acquisition of the hospital should be stopped until the debate in parliament, as was done for the car parks privatisation. This must not be a case of the deal going ahead and being investigated afterwards.

Dr Farrugia said the debate on the car parks motion should be held on October 18 or 25 or November 1. The government should not impose a date once it did not enjoy a majority.

The Speaker suggested that both sides should hold a separate meeting to try to reach a compromise.

The meeting ended without an agreement being reached on the date.

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Francis Saliba M.D.

Oct 12th 2012, 11:04

When PL + JPO + FD manage to collect between them a majority vote of "no confidence" in the government on an important bill, then, and only then, will Mr Speaker and Mr Prime Minister need to listen to you, and others with the same frame of mind, and agree that parliamentary democracy demands the resignation of the government. Untill then it is the case of braying of asses not reaching heaven.

George Azzopardi

Oct 13th 2012, 19:30

@Francis Saliba M.D. then what's the reason that GonziPN is afraid of putting this in parliament as suggested by JPO and Dr.Debono?

Michael Magri

Oct 13th 2012, 19:46

Dottore.. Just seen your note.

By your own reasoning and immagination, you are giving your blessings and thus approving, for any future government to act `secretely` on certain expenditures with the excuse that a motion for discussion and scrutinizing such expenses are invalid for parlamentary democracy, because it is not a money bill..!

Hallina Dottore.. NO WAY..!!

Victor Caruana

Oct 11th 2012, 23:33

Forsi ghax ilna nhallsu flus mit-taxxi taghna ghalxejn? Forsi ghax ghax huwa farsa li kellna naslu s'hawn meta l-isptar il-gdid 'state of the art' ilu biss 4 snin li nbena? Forsi ghax wara li hallasna ghall-isptar tal-onkologija dan ma kienx inbena u issa rridu nergghu nhallsu biex nibnu iehor?

Jimmy Ventura

Oct 11th 2012, 20:24

Il-prijorita ta' GonziPN hi li jqarraq bina bhal meta qal li Joseph Muscat irid jiffriza il-minimum wage u ma emmnu hadd. Dream on Daniela.

Eddy Privitera

Oct 11th 2012, 21:22

Daniela Cassar: The priorities are that parliamentary democracy should b e respected not ignored. Dr. Gonzi knows. and Dr. Tonio Borg knows too, that the government presently has lost its majority, not only in parliament but also in the country. At least, it should not dictate to the majority of MPs, simply because it is not bringing to the vote motions which it knows it will lose !

mark borg

Oct 12th 2012, 07:04

cant youPN admit they lost the majority in parliament?and thet they have lost all rights to govern ?
PN - You've turned parliament into a big joke (yet far from funny)

Gorg Sciberras

Oct 11th 2012, 19:24

I would say that 12 million for a 100, potentially 200 bed hospital which can be used straight away is a bargain. Could you imagine how much it would cost and how long it would take to refurbish St Luke's hospital to the level of St Phillips, besides all the medical equipment (including an MRI scanner). And I say that having worked as a doctor in both hospitals.

Jimmy Ventura

Oct 11th 2012, 20:34

@ Gorg Sciberras
"12 million for a 100 potentially 200 bed hospital" mela qed intellghu is-super five.
L-ewwel net 12 il-miljun ghal 8 snin u mhux biex tixtrieh.
Il-veru amateur issemmi dawn ic-cifri bhal ma kien amateur min naqqas il-kapacita ta 1000 sodda li ippjana Alfred Sant ghal kapacita ta' sodod li hemm il-lum. Dan meta ghandna popolazzjoni li qed tixjieh.

Pat Hobson

Oct 11th 2012, 19:02

Yes, and through this, the PN literally stole the elections from the PN. Gonzipn hasn't yet apologized for robbing the people of its right of government! Shame on Gonzi and the PN!

Brian Gatt

Oct 12th 2012, 09:17

Joe M Borg,

No you are wrong PN did not stand by JPO they used him to obtain sympathy votes, they even trained him (he admitted himself) on how to act the part. They did not back him they used him and now he realized and rightly so is paying them back with the same coin.

Joe M Borg

Oct 11th 2012, 17:32

Dear Paul, if Gonzi had not negotiated for St Philips's, we know what MuscatPL would have done.....blame the GonziPN administration for the many beds in the corridors at Mater Day. Whatever GonziPN does, MuscatPL opposes! That's WHY they have been opposing (opposition) since 1998. They're so good at it!

B. Farrugia

Oct 11th 2012, 19:33

Dear Mr Borg,
MuscatPL does not exist,
in contrast the PN won the last election specifically changing its name into GonziPN,
like it or not that is fact.
PL is not stupid enough to do that
and neither was Mintoff.

John Micallef

Oct 11th 2012, 17:43

Critin .. so you dont agree that there is a need to scrutinize and check the St philips hospital deal? or that the car parks motion needs to either be scrapped (and not suspended) or else debated before a deal is done? or else that the political parties need to be audited to confirm that no corruption happens?

K CASSAR

Oct 11th 2012, 19:34

You're right. I'm sure it's better for the government if FD and JPO leave.

It's not better for the country as this country needs people who speak the truth of matters and stop hiding behind a nationalist party ticket to fill their pockets. That's not what politics should be! It's a disgrace to the intelligence of our people! An election and the labour party are what this country needs!

B. Farrugia

Oct 11th 2012, 19:35

This farce continues as no election is called by the PM,
this would solve the farce,
as it is, just relax hold on and enjoy yourself.

Mr Joe Micallef

Oct 11th 2012, 20:50

John Micallef what are you on about. You've got no clue what you're talking about. There are other institutions to ensure that all is above board

Obviously like the rest of Lil elves you are utterly dishonest. This is not about the deal, which by any measure is good, but about the disgusting opportunism that characterizes the PL

Rocco Camilleri

Oct 11th 2012, 17:03

Well said, Mr.C.Busuttil.

victor bonello

Oct 11th 2012, 16:39

Kemm hu ikrah li tigdeb,
Kemm hu ikrah li tkun dizonest,
Kemm hu ikrah li tkun arroganti,
Kemm hu ikrah li t berbaq dak li mhux tieghek
kemm hu ikrah li taghmel tieghek dak li mhux,
kemm hu ikrah li taghaddi n nies biz zmien
ecc ecc ecc.

William Caligari

Oct 11th 2012, 21:22

Tkun ragel ta' veru............................................imma kif?
Tkun veru onest...............................................imma kif?
Fidel lejn l-ghaqda li tkun fiha......................hekk jaghmlu?
Tkun leali lejn is-Superjuri tieghek..............Thobb lil fqir.
Tirrispetta lill-marid u d-dghajjef..................bil-medicini 'out of stock

Joe M Borg

Oct 11th 2012, 17:13

Yeh, right! And what's the alternative, Mr Borg? The last MLP government (do you STILL remember when that was?), was SOOOOOO good, that they have been in opposition ever since! And the trouble is, that they are still the same old faces. The only thing they changed in the 'supposed' earthquake was their emblem! Great!!

joseph borg st john

Oct 11th 2012, 18:11

@ Victor Bonello Vic bli ktiebt qieghed terga tfakkarna f 70s u f 80s ghax ididiskrevejt il minstri kollha ta dak iz zmien.

C Busuttil

Oct 11th 2012, 16:51

Its an autogoal by the government as there should have been no need of St. Philip hospital after we spent all those millions !!!!!!! Its always the fault of others but never ours, thats why people are tired and sick of this administration

Joe M Borg

Oct 11th 2012, 17:20

Mr Busuttil, didn't YOUR Labour PM state that Mater Dei was 'State of the art'? By the way....if you are sick of this administration, you forget that this administration has been there since 1998 BECAUSE WE WERE SOOOOO SICK of the last MLP administration. They have shown such ' improvement' through the years, and 'learned' from their mistakes,that they retained their position in op-position!

victor bonello

Oct 11th 2012, 16:41

It should have before the last elections ! instead of spinning around to its favour.

A.Felex Busuttil

Oct 11th 2012, 17:55

mistra project was recalled by the developer and enough time has passed that according to low it cannot be discussed. This was a private project not government.

Joe M Borg

Oct 11th 2012, 17:23

I admit that Gonzipn has been passing through some rough time for OVER a year! JPO, JM, FD, not to mention the international problems, like the credit crunch. And yet, he is still there! The last MLP government toppled on the first stumbling block! Who has shown to be the stronger??

Brian Gatt

Oct 11th 2012, 16:19

Nope you only got it partially right he is a disgruntled Ex PN and now Indipendent MP with the power to topple over the govt and as it stands his word is law!!!

So much for the par idejn sodi Gonzi promised

W Cassar

Oct 11th 2012, 15:44

You must be rich if 12million euros is a little thing?

Gordon Farrugia

Oct 11th 2012, 16:09

little things lol? ax ghalikom 10 miljuni l'hawn u 10 miljuni l'hemm mhuma xejn bil-haqq ux??

David Joseph Mallia

Oct 11th 2012, 16:14

These are no little things to rent St Philip's Hospital from Public funds when these funds should had been spend on St Luks Hospital . If such decidtion will taken by Ministers only them what the used to have parliamet . so JPO & FD have the to halt the dealing . It the Goverment that is leaving the patients in the corridors beacuse there were no plans for the health .

victor bonello

Oct 11th 2012, 16:45

@ C.Serracino Inglott- do you have any idea what Mater Dei cost the Maltese tax payer? Do you know all the shaddy deals that were involved? Can we go on spending and over spending money which we little tax payers and our children will have to pay? The patients remain in the corridors because there was no serious planning.

cesco di luigi

Oct 11th 2012, 17:53

Mr Carmel S I

this a bit rich from you, blaming 2 MPs who were not involved in the miserable planning of Mater Dei. If the cake is no good, lacks sugar or cream, is too small for the occasion or costs too much.....blame no one but the one who baked it, Sir, and not the ones who ate it. OK?

john grech

Oct 11th 2012, 22:21

the patients are in the corridor because the pn reduce the number of bed from 800 to 600
that was after the resignation of dr sant

John L Galea

Oct 12th 2012, 07:22

Yes and our money is squandered by the clique...considering we supposedly have a state-of-art hospital.

victor bonello

Oct 11th 2012, 16:45

what about the Whistlebower act?

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