Video: Updated - Labour jumps on the 'bend(y)wagon'
Updated 9.10 am. Wednesday - The Labour Party has leapt at the controversy caused by London Mayor Boris Johnson's comments on bendy buses yesterday, producing billboards which sprouted in several parts of Malta today.
Johnson, speaking at the Conservative Party conference, took a dig at Arriva’s “jack-knifed diplodocus” bendy buses, which, he said, were now “clogging up the streets of Malta”.
The Labour billboard is also doing the rounds on facebook.In a rousing speech, the Tory mayor said he kept his promise to Londoners to abolish the long buses and bring in a new Routemaster bus.
The unpopular bendy-buses are now clogging up the streets of Malta, Mr Johnson boasted.
Arriva shipped the buses to Malta after they were taken off the streets of London last year.
MINISTRY'S REPLY
The Transport Ministry in a reaction said:
"MITC notes that articulated buses were the subject of some humour in the speech of the Mayor of London at the British Conservative Party conference.
"His remarks have also made it to the comment boxes and facebook pages of prominent Labour spokesmen here in Malta. Quite apart from the fact that this must be the firsttime in living memory that the MLP has found anything useful to repeat from the British Conservatives, we assure Mayor Johnston that passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort and the sheer capacity of articulated buses as they comfortably carry in a single bus journey what used to take 3 to 4 buses before.
"By our mathematics that is considerably less congestion, rather than more. Mayor
Johnston's mathematics will have to work out the considerably higher expense for
bespoke buses that London tax-payers have to pay for to replace the transferred bendy buses.
"One need hardly point out that even if removed from London streets; articulated buses are hardly an exclusive feature of Maltese roads. They operate in just about every other city in Europe with high bus passenger numbers."

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Joe Busuttil
Nov 4th 2012, 17:27
Although the new bus system in Malta, overall, is better than the one we used to have before, the busses chosen for Malta are not
Considering the streets of Malta, and the scenic roadways all over the island, busses similar to the Routemaster would have been a much better choice. Just picture these buses in our traditional yellow with Orange stripes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=TWckXHojurM
Daniel Frendo
Oct 11th 2012, 13:07
Whilst many EU States continue to struggle... as people riot in the streets... as unemployment in the EU soars... here in Malta we can afford the luxury of discussing bendy-buses :) whilst tourist arrivals hit record numbers, employment figures continue to be encouraging, etc etc etc... The mayor of London and his PM would be more productive if they looked at Malta and learn the way to success...
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Oct 12th 2012, 03:21
I hope you are not suggesting that Lawrence Gonzi can teach them a few lessons? Really, comparing Malta with large European countries! Malta survives because it is small and any scrap from Euorpe is enough to feed all of Malta. Gonzi, Gatt and the rest of them are a laughing stock.
Alan Xuereb
Oct 13th 2012, 08:41
I totally concur with you Mr.Frendo.
Mr Stefan Kottmann-Soler
Oct 10th 2012, 18:50
Who cares what the mayor of London thinks or said? Why are so many people giving him so much importance? Someone said that this mayor humiliated Malta. Well, I do not feel humiliated, as much as I would not feel humiliated had he poked fun at the Germans, because the Germans are self-assured enough to take a comment from an Englishman, drop it on the floor and step on it. And Malta should too.
Noel Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 20:54
He said what he said live on SKY news and made a laughing stock of Malta in front to the world with David Cameron being seen laughing his head off. If that is not humiliation I don't know what is.
Mr Stefan Kottmann-Soler
Oct 10th 2012, 22:34
It's a cheap dig. The mayor of that city thinks bendy buses are ridiculous, and the government of this country disagrees. If the mayor of Valletta made comment about the UK...just think about it.
Chris Spiteri
Oct 10th 2012, 17:56
Another point which Mr. Johnson should be aware of is that MOST drivers of Arriva have NO clue how to drive such wide and long vehicles. EVERY private vehicle owner here in Malta keep out of the way of most buses and preferably NOT drive next to any buses, saving oneself from unnecessary collisions!!
Fran Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 15:29
Brian Gatt - Local Councils and the public in general were asked to contribute with their suggestions. I did make one or two suggestions so I think you are quite wrong in saying what you did. Besides what has this got to do with freedom of speech. We have lots of that in Malta I can assure you.
Joe Vella - were you by any chance a bus driver/owner ?
Jon Vercellono
Oct 10th 2012, 16:32
I agree 100%, perhaps the system actually has been a success, and they are simply jealous of that fact - hence the need to denigrate the system (as they did nothing to bring the needed reforms about). I agree with the need for larger buses particularly in the Summer. This would be ideal time for him to resurrect this idea.
George Cassar
Oct 10th 2012, 16:34
Please stop trying to defend the un-defendable. Our nation has been humiliated. Our ex-colonial masters had a good laugh at our expense. Where is our national pride?!
Brian Gatt
Oct 10th 2012, 16:47
Fran Abela,
Dont tell me you suggested the Bendy Buses zgur!!! the way you are acting it sure seems like it!!
Eddy Privitera
Oct 10th 2012, 18:11
Jon Vercellono: Have you ever boarded the bendy-buses in mid-summer ? From your comment, it doesn't seem so.
Paul Ellul
Oct 10th 2012, 15:21
430 comments.....
Definitely a record breaker. Congrats Dr. Gatt, your Public Transport Reform still draws the crowds!!
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Oct 10th 2012, 13:14
Why do we also have to politicize everything under the sun, even the Transport System?
What really irks some is the fact that the local media does not help in this situation but continues to stoke the fire!
Only in Malta, of course!
JC.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 16:10
Come on, Mr Cauchi. You would be the first one had Labour brought Arriva to Malta to politicise it. In any case, do not forget all the bragging by Austin Gatt when Arriva was launched. Now you expect us to lay off?
James Vella
Oct 10th 2012, 12:54
Mr.M.Borg (slm)
No may I correct you it's no as you are saying. "Ezatt , qisu thalli Airbus A380 jinzel fl'airport ta' Malta". because the Airbus A380 has already landed in Malta airport, and besides that the Malta airport airstrip is long enough.
Damian Testa
Oct 10th 2012, 12:53
I must be luckiest man in Malta. I've been using Arriva's service from day one, making four trips a day, sometimes six. Apart from some delay during the first couple of weeks, I've always got to work and back home on time. Perhaps my fellow countrymen commenting here were all born under an unlucky (red) star.
C. Muscat
Oct 10th 2012, 14:01
Actually the humour was initiated by the Mayor of London. I actually think the labour billboard saves our face by seeing the humoristic side to it too. Tal-misthija l-istqarrija li we the maltese are very happy with these buses mill-Ministeru. Ever since the arrival of Arriva traffic increased not decreased in spite of the increased capacity.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Oct 10th 2012, 12:49
While posting my comment, the list has just hit the 419 mark!
If these bendy-buses manufactured by the world famous vehicle manufacturer (Mercedes of Germany) are such a priority for the Maltese as a matter of concern and to ridicule; then no wonder we must be enjoying one of the highest standard of living in the world!
JC.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 16:15
From your comment, one can easily deduce that you do not use the buses - at least to get you to wrok. When your life depends on the buses, yes they become the most important thing. Try hard to imagine that you arrive late at work each day, that after a day's work, you waited for a very long time in heat or the cold to catch a bus home, or that on the way home the bus crashes.
James Vella
Oct 10th 2012, 12:49
One thing i would like to know.
What is Malta Labour party going to do about them (bendy-buses) once he is in power?
George Joseph Cauchi
Oct 10th 2012, 14:11
Send them back to Boris :-))
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 16:17
Auction them to all those cities in Europe that love them so much.
Jon Vercellono
Oct 10th 2012, 12:38
Personally, when push comes to shove, I do think - in a manner of reform - that TM should ban the grossly inefficient, road clogging SUV's, BMW's, Mercedes, et. al. These are what are holding up the buses, and block the roads; these cars were not designed for Maltese roads, and are designed for open terrain and countryside. God forbid an accident happens, these cars are so big that they would crumple those who use more efficient cars which are more suited to our roads (or a pedestrian). TM please pay heed.
John Azzopoardi
Oct 10th 2012, 12:29
What a story...........Bendy buses should have never been brought to Malta. Malta's roads are not like those of London, and other major cities like New York , Los Angeles, etc. IF London roads couldn't take these buses, how could malta's do. Malta's roads are bendy themselves and they create a lot of traffic in many localities. Insomma, what would labour do now if they were to be elected given the fact that maltese are now ok with the service. Do away with them the same way they said they would with VAT when they got elected in 1996.
m. borg (slm)
Oct 10th 2012, 12:19
Normally arrogant people are brought down by humour. They become the joke that they really are and are a constant object of ridicule.
What's just is that they deserve it.
Mark Borg
Oct 10th 2012, 12:01
Yet another FROGA from Agostino Gatt. He is becoming amusing isn't he? A bit of joker God bless him!.
Joseph Borg
Oct 10th 2012, 11:45
Iktar mill bendybusses hija l-infrastrittura li mhix mahsuba ghall dawn il-busses. Hafna mill bus stops bays huma zghar biex jakkomodaw dawn il-busses u ghalekk joholqu hafna traffic u l-kongestjoni warajhom.
m. borg (slm)
Oct 10th 2012, 12:21
Ezatt , qisu thalli Airbus A380 jinzel fl'airport ta' Malta
Eddy Privitera
Oct 10th 2012, 18:15
Joseph Borg: Allura x'naghmlu, nibdlu l-istruttura kollha minhabba l-bendy-buses ? Mhux ghalhekk ma kienx hemm hsieb wara d-decizzjoni li jithallew jingiebu dawn il- bendy-buses.
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Oct 10th 2012, 11:38
Perhaps we should startm widening Malta's roads to allow the Bendy buses to drive around with ease. Let's start with widening Herbert Ganado Street in Pieta.
Paul Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 12:42
very funny comments as usual
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Oct 10th 2012, 11:35
PN incompetence at its best (or worst). Even the British PM had a laugh at the expense of Malta!
Andrew Holland
Oct 10th 2012, 16:24
Erm, Boris is the not the British PM (least not for a few years yet!), he's the mayor of London!
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Oct 10th 2012, 11:32
PN incompetence at its best (or worst). Even the British PM had a laugh at the expense of Malta!
Mark. Galea
Oct 10th 2012, 11:01
Does this mean that a PL government will remove Bendy Busses?
fred sammut
Oct 10th 2012, 11:15
come on Mark..... you don t understand simple English??
Luke Bonnici
Oct 10th 2012, 11:20
of course they won't ..... they'll come up with a lousy excuse saying that it will be more expensive to scrap them, etc etc .... they just thought this was a wonderful piece of free propaganda for their election campaign!!
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 10th 2012, 11:22
Nice first your pn makes a total QASSATA and then you always expect PL remedy matters. Pulit ukoll
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 10th 2012, 12:20
@Luke Bonnici
''they just thought this was a wonderful piece of free propaganda for their election campaign!! ''
And the thing is it has been provided by almighty Agostino. For free!!!
It seems all the bad things the pn did are fast catching up with them!
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 16:22
No Mark, it just means that they will not be making stupid and arrogant decisions.
Francesca Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 10:54
The answer is so very simple - Austin Gatt is a total failure despite his bragging and never admitting a mistake! The bus service in the south of Malta is even worse with Arriva then it was with the old buses. Here in Marsascala we have lost the night bus from Paceville on Saturday night to the old Jerma area, as it now stops only at the terminus leaving us with 20 mins walk alone at night come rain or shine, it took us over 10 months to get the bus 91 to Valletta again from the Jerma siberia area to Valletta, we had to walk over 20 mins in the summer heat and winter rain, it takes people hours to get to Mater Dei and to University, Junior college and MCAST Paola students have to hop on and off the buses as the old 300 is now replaced with the 204 which no longer passes near these areas and which is marked as arriving at University at 5 mins past the hour ( when it makes the trip on time) and lectures start on the hour! So please do tell us exactly what we have gained?? Even the x5 bendy buses are without air conditioning most of the time, the only improvement is that bus drivers are in uniform and maybe a little more polite. We were better off when we were worse off!! FIRE AUSTIN GATT AND HIS TEAM OF TWITS who have totally mucked up the bus service. It also seems the Local council is sitting on it's bottom and not paying attention to residents' complaints as they do not use the buses like we do and the Labour Party needs to kick up a big fuss to amend the situation in some localities.What people want are: Faster routes to their destinations not a round Malta sightseeing tour!
Jon Vercellono
Oct 10th 2012, 11:13
It doesn't seem your Mayor contributed to any suggestions when Arriva was born - I should probably complain to him, and ask why he's still in the job (particularly when his advice was sought to make things better for the residents). Food for thought -
Brian Gatt
Oct 10th 2012, 11:30
Jon Vercellono, I beg to differ as far as I know the local councils were not invited to contribute to the Arriva introduction, I remeber well their indignation when the routes were published.
Fran Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 10:40
The majority of the Maltese commuters who had been having a rough deal with the previous bus transport system were all unanimous that Malta needed a new modern bus transport service. When the reform was announced, various entities including the PL, Local Councils, and commuters themselves were requested to discuss and send it their various suggestions. It is noted that as with so many other reforms, the PL did not even participate in the discussions and now they are continuously denigrating the system. OK the billboard seems to be funny but is that all the PL could contribute ? It is very well to sit back and denigrate the system now. I would also take into consideration that Arriva are employing over 1000 persons and the Maltese might do well to consider not jeopardising their employment by derogatory remarks on Arriva. By this I do not mean that we have to put up with a service that is not good but that depends on the way one looks at it. I know that the system is not working 100% - no bus system over the world works 100% efficiently but we are slowly getting there. We have to learn to be patient in the rush hours when more cars are on the road. It is the same the world over, during rush hours buses are packed to capacity and if it were not for bendy buses most commuters would be left stranded. It is a fact that private cars are always on the increase and they are also contributing to traffic jams. I am not saying that we should not have more private cars on the roads, but surely one can see that Malta's size is what it is, and the roads cannot take more cars unless we decide to build bridges to ease the flow of traffic. As to bendy buses, I find they sure came in handy because especially during summer when we had a huge influx of tourists, they used the buses frequently.
joe vella
Oct 10th 2012, 11:12
MY MY, you really are a PN apolgoist Fran, Austin ought to take you on as his PRO, he badly needs somebody like you to shield him from the stick and franco!
Carry on like this and rest assured, if gonziPN makes it to castille again you will get a chairmanship somewhere
best regards
Brian Gatt
Oct 10th 2012, 11:29
I beg to differ the Local councils and commuters were never asked to give out their ideas - I remember their indignation for not being invited - I dont know whether the PL were actually invited but i am sure that if they were they would have given their input.
Fran Abela, I am all out in favor of the freedom of speech but at least check your facts before writing something down.
Joseph cassar
Oct 10th 2012, 14:51
The truth of the matter is that those Bendy Buses need to go at all costs they are totally inappropriate for Maltese roads.
Fran Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 15:24
Joe Vella - it seems that one cannot have a sensible debate with you because you are politicising the whole matter. To you people who try to reason and not necessarily agree with you are PN apologists. I am not shielding Dr. Gatt - I can assure you he can certainly fend for himself. I do not require any sort of chairmanships nor ever aspired for any. Good luck to PL to make it to Castille
Mr John Doneo
Oct 10th 2012, 10:25
@ Mr W Cammilleri
1st They are not Londonderry bendy busses ( Londonderry is in Northern Ireland)
2nd. Boris Johnson did not send these busses to Malta
3rd They were sold by Arriva which is a german company
4th Malta taught in their wisdom that they were getting something on the cheap.
Mr Tony Gatt
Oct 10th 2012, 10:21
You can tell Boris has had a classical education by his use of 'diplodocus' meaning a double-jointed dinosaur. He may act the buffoon, but he is far from being one.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 16:32
The best bufoons are the more intelligent ones. Boris is no fool and he could be Britain's next Conservative Leader. Pity Dr Austin Gatt does not even know who this guy is!
Stefano Briffa
Oct 10th 2012, 10:13
I cannot see were the statistics related to traffic congestion came from. it takes me over 50 minutes to get from Mtarfa to Blata l-Bajda in the morning at 7AM!!!!
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Oct 10th 2012, 11:53
It is cheaper and healthier to walk there.
Mr Hans Borg
Oct 10th 2012, 12:27
@Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
It's also cheaper and healthier to swim it to Gozo. Tithajjar?
R ferriggi
Oct 10th 2012, 09:55
THIS EPISODE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LABOUR.
I AM NOT LABOURITE,,, BUT I AM STILL SEETHING ABOUT THIS TREACHERY AGAINST THE MALTESE PEOPLE.
I REPEAT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GET THESE BENDY BUSES OFF OUR ROADS,,,,,, NOW!!!!
Jon Vercellono
Oct 10th 2012, 10:12
and I rest my point.
P Azzopardi
Oct 10th 2012, 11:27
and do you think someone is hearing you Mr Ferriggi.....?? nothing will change whether its this govt. or the next
Jon Vercellono
Oct 10th 2012, 09:49
If one conducts a media analysis of the responses listed here, its really almost shocking that they all seem scripted, as though there is a handbook somewhere for writing these responses "bendy buses are totally unsuitable", et. al. Again, I say, the people writing these negative responses are: not bus passengers, and are being urged to write negative responses. The pro Arriva responses however exhibit lots of original thought, and appear to be original concepts. Just food for thought. (I'm sure Arriva and TM are aware of this as well).....
Donna Parnis
Oct 10th 2012, 10:14
Jon Vercellono@ I AM a bus user and Im not prompted by anyone for what I write, These ARRIVA
Ms G Portelli
Oct 10th 2012, 10:15
Lol you're hilarious in your assumptions, do understand that there are thousands of commuters who have to use the service and that a good enough number have had their fair share of bad experiences on the new transport system. A good enough number of drivers on Maltese roads can vouch for the same with regards the congestion and sometimes perilous presence of bendy buses. What is so conspiratorial about speaking up if one gets badly planned projects and bad service? What exactly are you implying that citizens shouldn't acknowledge and point out political incompetence? Is this the European democracy you advocate for Malta? A pick n'mix one which insists on public silence with regards to censoring politicians who fail to deliver ? Media analysis indeed!
Donna Parnis
Oct 10th 2012, 10:20
Jon Vercellono I am a user of these buses and I am not urged by anyone to write negative responses, I write by my own experience, These buses are no good for our Island, They block roads, There have been numerous accidents caused by these buses. Obviously you are pro arriva, Do you even use a bus? Arriva have made a mockery of your bus system, Always late, the air conditioning not working on a lot of the buses, Arriva never replies to complaints, The whole system of Arriva is a total shambles, not just the bendy buses but the whole fleet. Maybe you need to open your eyes and ears and actually heed what the people are saying as these are the people who have to use these buses everyday.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 10th 2012, 10:21
Jon Vercellono: I wonder whether you have ever boarded the bendy-buses in summer !
Jon Vercellono
Oct 10th 2012, 10:56
The buses at Kullegg and along the front in Sliema are invariably on time - albeit packed to the brim - giving us shorter and more buses >>> give me a break. I ride the bus every day and do demand quality from the system - we have had air conditioning almost everyday on the 12, 13, or 15 buses (as well as the 21). The buses do come as advertised (as can be attested to by the regular commuters in Msida). Even the buses to Bugibba come on time. I do think its rather suspicious that all of these buses once they cross out of Msida suddenly become late? The air conditioning suddenly cuts off. Myself, I prefer to sit down for my journey and for the bus to have a suitable number of seats (and of course, I want the Pensioners (anyone remember them) to have a seat as well. The Bendy Buses do suit the bill for that. More buses (old style with a narrow aisle impossible to get out)?? I urge people to ride the buses and find out what's really happening. The buses cannot be on time running in Msida and Hamrun and suddenly become late or whatever once they leave these localities (quite suspicious) and yes I do ride the buses everyday.
Jon Vercellono
Oct 10th 2012, 10:57
and for Ms. G. Portelli - it would seem that you're assuming a lot based upon others' reporting - it doesn't seem to be mentioned that you use the buses (or have set foot in one at all).
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Paul Caruana
Oct 10th 2012, 09:33
Pre electoral shenanigans aside, what we need to concentrate upon is to ensure that the service runs on time, all of the time....bendy buses or not!
Julien Cachia
Oct 10th 2012, 09:25
Is therefore PL saying that once they are in government they will remove bendy-buses ? Oh come on..Stop messing us about !!
Franco Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 09:45
WHO SAID THAT??? THIS ARTICLE PROVES THAT AUSTIN DID A BAD JOB. FULL STOP.
Ms D. Borg
Oct 10th 2012, 09:24
In situations like these, the least the PL can do is side with Malta, mhux inkomplu indahqu l-barranin bina. Ma tinbidlu qatt.
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 10th 2012, 10:42
@Ms D. Borg
''In situations like these, the least the PL can do is side with Malta'' U x'tihu umbad...il pn jibdu jejdu ''ara anki il pl qieghjad jaqbel maghna ghalura ghalfejn dawn il complains" u juzawk bhalla scapegoat tal frejegg taghhom!
John Dee
Oct 10th 2012, 09:19
" this must be the first time in living memory that the MLP has found anything useful to repeat from the British Conservatives"
Ha Ha Ha Haaaaa !
Such sophistication here!
Joseph E Briffa
Oct 10th 2012, 09:17
The Maltese are a lucky lot. While other people in the EU are struggling with lack of jobs, reduced wages and pensions, the Maltese are focused on petty things like bendy buses and parking lots.
Franco Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 09:46
YES... THANKS TO THE BANKS NOT THE GOVERNEMENT. AND BTW, THIS IS WHAT THE GREEKS THOUGHT SOME YEARS AGO!
Alfred J. McEwen
Oct 10th 2012, 10:04
Alfred J. McEwen
...And the illegal immigration problem !!
J Degabriele
Oct 10th 2012, 08:55
"By our mathematics that is considerably less congestion" To the man (I suppose it was a man) who said this. Are you out of your mind? Have you really ever seen a bendy bus going round a street corner in Malta? Have you seen them trying to round the Saqajja hill, stopping all cars and other buses, going on the pavement, inches away from the buildings? It's a terrifying spectacle. Poor drivers!
Joseph Barbara
Oct 10th 2012, 08:39
Boris Johnson looks and speaks like a cartoon character. It is easy to mock someone when you are on home ground a speaking to your own. I do agree however that the bendy buses are too big for some routes but are certainly very useful on the longer routes say Valletta - Cirkewwa especially in the Summer months. Boris did not mention that fares on his buses are almost as costly as hiring a taxi. If you are holidaying in London and happen to make the 'mistake' of staying in a cheaper hotel away from the centre, then you will find out that your travelling expenses exceed the difference you would have paid for a central hotel. Such is the cost of using public transport in London. In Malta a seven day pass costs less than a sandwich and a soft drink in London.
W Cassar
Oct 10th 2012, 08:48
As they say Joseph you get what you pay for.
Mario Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 08:53
And more expensive than using your own car!
Vincent Bezzina
Oct 10th 2012, 09:28
Joseph, Boris looks, acts and is a typical British. His mannerism reflects his social class and upbringing. There is nothing cartoonish about him. He is popular and respected in London.
On the other hand, we are leaving is a real Mickey Mouse country over here in Malta and no matter how much more ridiculous the situation gets, we still have the same clown parading around, full of hot air and self importance. They stand on a pile of trash of their own making and we continue to applaud them for their achievements.
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Oct 10th 2012, 07:38
I use both my car and the buses depending on my destination.
I must say I notice such a huge amount of illegal parking on bus stops, double parking, even parking on roundabouts - plus the mentality that to go round the corner to buy bread you go by car, that it is somehow "shameful" to use public transport, etc - that it really isn't surprising it takes so long to get anywhere.
As for the bendy buses - we NEED them - we may not like them (I'm certainly with you there), but they do replace 3 buses and I'll wager those who complain about them have never had to wait in the sun while two full buses to Cirkewwa whizz past... Please don't think only of your position as a driver. Think about the person waiting for ages for a bus.
As far as the argument of them being too large for our streets - have a look around in medieval cities in so many places in Europe with streets narrower than ours and you'll find them.
It is interesting to note Boris replaced these buses with "double" buses (on top rather than at the back), not single ones - the latter would be unthinkable, and I'm pretty sure there is a great deal of "patriotism" in the choice or reintroducing Routemasters rather than simple pragmatism...
Steve Pace
Oct 10th 2012, 07:26
"By our mathematics that is considerably less congestion, rather than more" - Hilarious or sad ? ... unlike Franco Debono, the minister's maths results in stage 1 must have been very poor !
The congestion brought about by these buses is singular. Take a trip to Balzan area and see a bendy bus trying to go past the little traffic island in valley road. The minister might also take a trip on one of these buses and see what it feels like when one of them stops with a mechanical failure or out of fuel in a busy single lane road ... Labour's poster of Gonzi with his hands on his eyes and ears really hits the nail on the head ... !
Joseph Mamo
Oct 10th 2012, 07:10
So let the Btitish make fun of us for accepting the bendy busses. They have every right to as we deserve it. It is quite clear that these busses are totally unsuitable for our narrow raods but is the boss decided that they're not then who are we to argue as after all we're only Maltese and it is expected of us to accept everything they throw at us. Living in Demorratic Malta means that whoever decides to do something will do it regardless of our opinion. The British always called us Maltese gemgem because we moan about something and after a while we accept everything. So let the minister do what he wants because we deserve him.
J.Mamo Zabbar
John Dee
Oct 10th 2012, 09:31
Joseph Mamo - I do not think Boris was making fun of the Maltese situation here, more pointing out that he had kept a promise to rid the City of someone else's folly.
As regards the "gemgem" label, I feel we are trained to accept whatever is thrown at us because the opinions of people like us are ignored by politicians and decision makers who do not feel we deserve an opinion, despite them being put there to represent us!
I think your final paragraph is spot on the mark!
Wilfred Camilleri
Oct 10th 2012, 07:10
Boris Johnson is a bigger joke than his joke about Malta getting Londonderry bendy busses! And those who fell for his joke are not much better!
Joseph Farrugia
Oct 10th 2012, 06:14
Whatever the comfort, econimical, etc, potential of these buses which I doubt, the most important point is being missed.
The narrow, curvy congested roads in Malta forces the drivers, even expert ones, to break the rules of the road all the time since they HAVE to continuously cross over to the other side of our roads to manouveur. Crossing double lines is a question of how many per day not if.
This constitutes a fine for normal people but what about Arriva. Are Arriva above the Law?
David Magro
Oct 10th 2012, 06:09
Certifikat moghti min shabu l-Konservattivi. Is-sabiha tara li Prim Ministru Ingliz Cameroon jidhak u jiehu pjacir. Tghid GonziPN ser jiehu pjacir meta jiltaqa mieghu? Waqajna fil-bassezzi u anke l-Ewropej jidhku bina saru, isthu ta GonziPN, gibtuna pajjiz tal-miky mouse.
A Trapani
Oct 10th 2012, 09:01
L-ewropew jidhku bina.... U Le.... Ha nhallat Id dahk Ta Cameron u Bicca sindku mac certifikat serju li taghna Barroso, il kap Tal Ewropa ???
joseph gauci
Oct 10th 2012, 11:26
A Trapani
Dan il - "bicca" sindku li qed tirreferi ghalih int kien responsabbli mill-organizzazjoni tal-loghob olimpiku li ghadu kemm sar gewwa Londra, u taf x-rizultat hareg. Barroso taghna certifikat tajjeb......veru. Tista tghidli x certifikat ircieva Austin Gatt u Manwel Delia?
Anthony A. Mifsud
Oct 10th 2012, 03:04
London mayor Boris Johnson today took a dig at Arriva’s “jack-knifed diplodocus” bendy buses, which, he said, were now “clogging up the streets of Malta.
Can any one denies this statement?
Hence, how is right, and who is bluffing?
Your answer is mine.....
Ninu
John Azzopoardi
Oct 10th 2012, 02:55
Bendy buses should have never been brought to Malta. Malta's roads are not like those of London, NY, LA, etc. Malta's roads are bendy themselves and they create a lot of traffic in many localities.
Joseph Barbara
Oct 10th 2012, 02:32
Did Minister Gatt or any other Minister ever travel standing in a bendy bus carrying 90 standing passengers, without air conditioning or an air cond. not working properly from Valletta to Cirkewwa, a journey which takes one and and a half hours due to detours in Mellieha, Ghadira and Marfa and stops at umpteen bus stops? I don't drive and use Arriva all the time so I know, I have been. I guess the Minister goes in style and comfort to Gozo.
A Trapani
Oct 10th 2012, 09:06
air condition was inexistant on the old filthy back breaking busses... If you don't like it, you can work hard, save up and buy a car. Then you'll go in style too my friend.
Jamie Cutajar
Oct 10th 2012, 00:13
Austin Gatt is responsible for this internationally public embarrassment of Malta. There is collective responsibility in cabinet - so just leave - pack your bags and leave. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED with the way Austin Gatt and the oligarchy have arrogantly determined the course of our future for the worse.
Norman Shaw
Oct 9th 2012, 23:57
Whoever thinks that bendy buses in Malta are a good thing must be living in a parallel universe to Malta where the roads are at least 4 times as wide. The Transport ministry is insulting every man, woman and child in Malta by stating the contrary what Boris Johnson is saying.... are they for REAL!
Dorielle Soler
Oct 10th 2012, 08:41
I LIKE the bendy buses, and up to this morning, was not living in a parallel universe. Their capacity is so large that I now hardly ever am left standing on the bus stop, in sun or rain. Probably most of those who hate them are stuck behind them, but as a commuter what I care about is getting to my destination. I admit that for narrow streets they are hardly ideal, but I live in the Sliema area where the main roads are reasonably spacious, so you can't expect people from a similar area to complain.
Peter Xuereb
Oct 9th 2012, 23:56
Tories making fun of the Nationalist administration? Amusing. I wouldn't blame Boris patting himself on the back for selling ice to eskimos: sending bendy buses to a nation with narrower roads than London itself.
Matthew Abela
Oct 9th 2012, 23:48
Dear Ministry it's been clear by now that you spend all your time in the comfort of your luscious offices during rush hours and don't care whatsoever about the drivers that have to constantly avoid your monumental buses!! They have clogged Maltese and how! Just send this mayor a video clip showing a Maltese Central main Street in the morning on a weekday and he laughs at you and your gimmicks!
L Magrin
Oct 9th 2012, 23:39
Sur Austin,
Il-matematika tajjeb li tagħmilha iżda l-prattika kollox. Xħin ma tkunx trid titla t-telgħa u kullħadd ikun ser imut bin-nifsijiet ta' xulxin għax l-aircondition ma jaħdimx u t-twieqi magħluqin aħna konna inkunu u mhux xi gallinar tat-tiġieġ.
Li hu żgur li qabel karozza tal-linja ma setgħetx tabbi aktar min 10 persuni bil-wieqfa, issa tista ittella sa 30 persuna (l-istess karozzi li baqgħu jintużaw) u dan sar b'detriment għaċ-ċittadin u bi gwadan għal kumpanija. Il-bendy busses jekk mhux qed niżbalja jitgħu itelgħu bil-wieqfa sa massimu ta 90 ruħ, kulħadd ippakjat fuq xulxin biex ma insemmix il-ħin li jinħela sakemm jinżel u jitla xi ħadd!
Bil-bendy busses l-ħin tat-travelling bit-trasport pubbliku mar il-baħar għal fejn kien qabel. Jekk insejt time is money. L-ekonomija effiċjenza trid u mhux intoppi bħal dawn li setgħu jiġu evitati b'naqra ħsieb. Grazzi.
A Bezzina
Oct 9th 2012, 23:35
Quoting Boris Johnson ... PATHETIC!!!! Is it possible that the PL can't find a more learned voice to inspire them?!?!?!
R. Vella.
Oct 9th 2012, 23:13
- " we assure Mayor Johnston that passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort and the sheer capacity of articulated buses..."
as a regular passenger I dont enjoy the bendy buses since:
1 AC does not function on most of them (or else its too weak)
2 They break down more easily
3 They are very noisy especially when they bend
4 Although they carry more passengers, the majority are standing
Malcolm Agius
Oct 9th 2012, 23:09
British commuters and tax payers are being fooled and robbed. All this falls under insane and mismanaged politics.
In the UK the reason to remove these buses is purely political, in Malta the state of our road infrastructure make modern vehicles inadequate.
G Hoare
Oct 9th 2012, 23:07
ALOT OF PEOPLE KNOW BORIS JOHNSTON AS A COMEDIAN so anything he talks about i take it with a pinch of SALT .HE WAS ,IS AND WILL BE THE COMMON MAN of the TORY PARTY.Plain Stupid,
Eddy Privitera
Oct 10th 2012, 18:19
G. Hoare: Although I wasn't pleased that Boris Johnson poked fun at Malta having been "dumped" with the discarded bendy-buses, I believe the stupid one is the person or persons who took the decision to accept their importation to Malta !
Paul Ellul
Oct 9th 2012, 23:04
300 Comments...
Congratulations Dr. Austin Gatt.
Just out of curiosity, does the TOM have an annual award for the personality that attracts the highest number of comments for whatever reason?
Mr G Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 22:54
While driving on Gzira seafront I heard a screeching sound and thought a vehicle was about to slam into me from the side or back. By the time I soiled my trousers I realized it was a bendy bus slowing down on the inner lane.
carlos ellul
Oct 9th 2012, 22:48
We take a big share of immigrants and make sure they remain here, we bail Greece out and we also take London's rejects. What a great colony have we become.
Nghidu iva ghal kollox u dejjem!
Joe aquilina
Oct 9th 2012, 22:29
MELA AHNA XQEDIN NAMLU DR GATT MUX INHALSU IT TAXXA ZEJDA HABBA FIK L EWWEL WIHED
Nicola Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 22:20
" passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort and the sheer capacity of articulated buses as they comfortably carry in a single bus journey what used to take 3 to 4 buses before."
1) appreciate the comfort?! just this morning i had to sit down on a luggage rack because it was too crowded to stand up
2)comfortably carry?!?!?!?!?!?! bis serjeta???
3) that "single bus journey" often takes 3 bloody hours! i can get to london in less time that it takes to reach the university in the mornings
VIVA AUSTIN!
A Trapani
Oct 10th 2012, 09:16
1) ahseb u ara x'kont tamel bix xarabank
2) ix xarabank kienet komda hux..... L-aktar dawk il hmieg ta seats u bla shock absorbers
3) 3 hours with a bendy bus that can carry 3 times as much as the old bus, u want the old bus back and wait for 9? After all if u do not want to wait that long, the PN gives you a stipend, go do a part time and buy a car.
Raymond Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 22:08
Ahna l-Maltin ma nitghallmu qatt! Kemm inhobbu inpaxxu l-barranin bil-kummenti taghna!
Joe Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 21:47
Emm, sorry ta,
but...
1) Bendy busses cant get round the roads in london, which has roads which are similar or wider than the ones in Malta... i. e. they are not good for Malta, as they weren't good for london.
2) Bendy busses consume less fuel per passenger than the regular busses WHEN THEY ARE FULL and GENERALLY they AREN'T. So they consume more fuel per km. ( I would also like to know whether these busses have Euro 5 engines, since they were shipped over as second hand)
3) Bendy busses have more moving parts which means they break down more easily
4) They only cost ARRIVA less because they have to employ less drivers. I don't care about arriva's business, I want to arrive at work on time.
5) Bendy busses require training to drive, which is far stricter than the regular busses is this training being given to arriva drivers, because the only training busses I have seen are from the old service AND THOSE WERE NOT BENDY. If this is not Happening, then bendy busses also become a health issue to the Maltese Public.
Joseph Mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 21:41
The PN made us Maltese the laughing stock of Europe, I felt insulted not by the Mayor of London but by the incompetent Austin Gatt.
mark borg
Oct 9th 2012, 21:07
Din aqwa min ta L-RJ 70
Joe Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 21:05
i do not use Arriva .... but as a car driver I can see that these buses increase congestion and as a bike driver these buses increase danger with the suction created when driving beside one of these buses!
Alfred Falzon
Oct 9th 2012, 20:58
The world is a stage and our two major political parties are excellent prima donnas!
Yes, indeed, both are infallible, both are perfect, and both are in a mood to celebrate...their insatiable thirst for power!..
By clutching at every straw!
Alfred A. Falzon
Godwin Dalli
Oct 9th 2012, 20:58
Boris is saying that bendy buses are clogging up the streets of Malta, while Austin boasted that "Zmien il-buzollotti ghadda"? Who is saying the truth because now I am confused.
Last Saturday while I was a passenger on a bendy bus no 12 going to Bugibba, at around 4pm the driver stopped the bus because of smoke.
M Grima
Oct 9th 2012, 20:44
Austin Powers is again in the limelight for the wrong reasons!!!
M Grima
Oct 9th 2012, 20:42
Dr. Gatt resembles a voodoo doll with several pins coming from all sides.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Oct 9th 2012, 20:40
Boris Johnson is absolutely wrong. Our bendy buses are brand new ! If this is not so, then Boris Johnson must have been part of a "buzullotta". Everyone knows, including the thousands of tourists who came on liners, (the vast majority), know that Malta has only new buses. That was the commitment.
As to comfort, I have to say that during Summer, I boarded a bendy bus to go to Gozo ! A real pleasure and a treat. Unfortunately the airconditioner (also promised) did not function, and we were thanking the heavens when the doors opened at some bus stop.
Boris Johnson is envious of our comfort ! That comfort does not stop with commuters, but also extends to car drivers, especially when the bendy buses break down.
James Dewar
Oct 10th 2012, 01:24
Joe, for a moment I thought you had changed sides!! Like the humour!
Joseph Bugeja
Oct 9th 2012, 20:30
Mela mhux Mintoff biss gab is-'second hand' li hadd ma ried (stowger). Issa hadna l-'bendy buses'. L-aqwa li zmien il-buzullotti issa spicca! Ghandna zmien il-buffi arroganti!
Mr Albert Dimech
Oct 9th 2012, 20:25
Oh my, we are now laughing stock for the Tories, when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Epic fail!
M Grima
Oct 9th 2012, 20:22
Dr. Gatt, you were the centre of the best joke provided by Boris Johnson during the British Conservative Party's conference.
But Mr. 'No Buzillotti' tried to sugar the whole issue by making a bold statement that the Maltese public appreciate the comfort and the sheer capacity of these bendy buses. Dr. Gatt must be really cut off from reality to make such a silly and misleading statement. But, what do you expect more; he is always right and everyone else is wrong. I call this arrogance personified!!!
m. borg (slm)
Oct 9th 2012, 20:16
Gonzi has criticised PL that in the past PL/MLP settled for second hand telephone and a second hand power station.
He went on to say that second hand is not in his vocabulary, yet he approved transport reform with second hand buses and as prime minister for almost 9 years is still making use of the Marsa power station.
Zmien il-buzullotti spicca.
Noel Abela
Oct 9th 2012, 20:11
Watching the live broadcast of Boris Jonhson on SKY News ridiculing Malta after having accepted the dumping on its streets of the bendy buses and hearing Austin Gatt’s reply to all this, made me realise how arrogant this Minister is. I am no fan of GonziPn but I honestly believe that the PN, which after all is an integral part of Malta’s glorious history deserves much much better. Dr Gatt do us all a favour, leave because this country does not need anyone with the like of you. If you do, you would be doing your party and our country a great big favour.
Lara Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 20:11
Austin buzullotti Gatt ghandu jigi imwaqqaf milli jkompli jibbuzullottja!
Philip Grech
Oct 9th 2012, 20:09
Dear Major Johnston,
The man in charge of this fiasco, Mr. Manuel Delia, is being paid for his work in organizing student protests during the last Labour government in order to topple the government He, together with his mentor (minister Gatt) know nothing about transport even after they went to China to inspect the new buses. So when you needed to get rid of the bendies you had a very easy prey.
Lara Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 20:07
Kemm se jdum jirhalla AUstin Gatt iwaqqalna wiccna l-art? PM pls take action!
Francis Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 20:05
The bendy buses are so comfortable that the number of standing passengers is more than twice that of the seated ones. My trips as a standing passenger are, by far, greater in number than those I used to take before Arriva took over.
Roy Schembri
Oct 9th 2012, 20:00
Malta does not require these dangerous buses, rather it requires a leader of Mayor Johnson's qualities. Someone who stands by their word and not afraid to face up to responsibilities and make positive decisions when needed. In simple terms . . a proper leader! Unfortunately no-one of that calibre exists in this Government or in the Opposition. Gatt and Gonzi have hid from Arriva but can anyone seriously imagine Joseph standing up to Arriva ?
Had Mayor Johnson been the transport supremo here, Mr Delia would have been kicked firmly out to graze by the end of Arriva's disastrous first week and Arriva's bags packed and their entourage dumped on the next flight back.
Joe Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 19:57
Can't you get anything right Mr. Agostino Pio Gatt ? It's Johnson,not Johnston.
Joe Morana
Oct 9th 2012, 19:39
Apparently the Transport Ministry is still in a state of denial ....
ANTHONY PAVIA
Oct 9th 2012, 19:37
This blatant arrogance has destroyed the PN. Let there be elections so the right people will regenerate the PN. As an unbiased citizen I feel that a strong PN would be vital for real democracy in Malta.
E. Vassallo
Oct 10th 2012, 06:27
Yes, bendy buses are a priority here in Malta. And if we suffer the brunt of a mass recession?
M Mallia
Oct 9th 2012, 19:37
Who the hell has actually said that he appreciated the bendy buses!?!?!?!? BTW just today the driver instructed us to get out of the bus so as to re-fuel at the Marsa park and ride. There is such a lack of buses due to the fact that not enough buses were committed to the fleet and that there are daily mechanical failures that they do not have time to re-fuel. I heard this from the mouths of drivers, who themselves have to face the passengers every day.
Jimmy Ventura
Oct 9th 2012, 19:36
Proset matematition Austin, x'wiehed bellghulek shabek il-konservattivi Nglizi. Dnub li hallasna ghalihom ahna u mhux INT.
Jalla taghmel il-matematika tal-elezzjoni li jmiss kif ghamilt ta' l-arriva.
Steve M. Engerer
Oct 9th 2012, 19:36
Whilst other European countries priorities are to control loss of jobs, uncontrolable deficits & so many other major problems.. here in Malta we are discussing car parks & bendy buses as a major fallout for the government..
The oppostion even believes that bendy buses & car parks are of a higher priority than the budget & should be discussed before the budget!!!
Viva Malta!!!
C Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 23:50
Your reasoning is why so many nationalists are tired of the party and brainwashed fanatics.
If the PN made such a disaster from the public transport reform, considering the previous service, surely it did not require a special feat to provide a better service, how can the country thrust them with more serious business.
How can people believe that European leaders consult with the PM when he wasn't even able to make this simple reform a success ? When Ix-xuffiera tal-gungla provided a better service.
Bendy buses and car parks are a priority for many labour and nationalists voters. The fact that you don't even consider that these decisions might effect the lives of people show why the PN is so unpopular and heading for a defeat of epic proportions. For the man in the street its important that buses keep their schedule and that it does not take over an hour to get to your destination, as that would effect the quality of your life.
Besides car parks are another way to get money from the people using public land. Many people can't even make it to the end of the month and instead of lifting the burden from their shoulders we continue to take few spending money they have. Just to make richer a friend of friends, who would be awarded the contract!!!!!!
Water and electricity rip off wasn't enough !!!! because its a tax in disguise and the ruin of this country.
Suddenly the budget is important, gone are the days when the PN used to boast that it did not need the budget to give the country a direction.
Eddie Fenech Adami fought hard to get off the PN the label "Partit tas-sinjur" and by doing so he made it electable however sadly enough those times are over and the PN has returned what it used to be.
Charles Micallef
Oct 9th 2012, 19:27
Recently i was in York and parked at the Park & Ride car park which is situated some few miles out of the city centre, where they operating the brand new version of the Mercedes Bendy Bus. I stuck conversation and asked the driver why they are so bumpy when riding in the back, his reply was that the one's exported to Malta from London are the very first original model and are 15/18 years old, and that the latest models were as smooth riding in the back as the front, well I sat in the back and the driver was right, it was equally as comfortable, and the ones in Malta are too old to be on the road.
Kieron O'connor
Oct 9th 2012, 19:24
Firstly for the Ministry to respond to the jokes made abroad is unprofessional and calls into question who prepared and authorized the response and there ability to carry out there job without ridiculing the nation.
Secondly the content of the response is unprofessional and laughable which again calls into question who's child prepared the response and who authorized it.
Charles Massa
Oct 9th 2012, 19:22
Issa ufficjali ghax anki is sindku ta Londra qieghed jikkonferma li l Arriva f Malta kienu fjask bil karozzi li gabu.
A. Mizzi
Oct 9th 2012, 19:35
U ma semmhiex illi l-fares hum ghola ghal barranin u Maltin li ghandhom dehra barranija irridu jiprezentaw l-ID cards ghal tariffa lokali!
pat muscat
Oct 9th 2012, 19:17
Li tizbalja hu uman; li tkompli tippersisti, tridt tkun Austin Gatt
m. borg (slm)
Oct 9th 2012, 20:08
I like this.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 20:17
Very well said Pat. Prosit !
N. Agius
Oct 9th 2012, 20:40
jew Austinat
Mr leo attard
Oct 9th 2012, 21:06
good one!!
Joe aquilina
Oct 9th 2012, 22:21
NICE
Manuel Scicluna
Oct 10th 2012, 05:35
Proset Pat
Jen Fenech
Oct 10th 2012, 13:25
very well summarized!
David Pace
Oct 9th 2012, 19:05
wow people here really dont like Arrive do they ..............well in Arriva's defence if parking regulations where improved and enforced (same old story im afraid) then most bottlenecks would NOT be bottlenecks and traffic could flow smoother than it is.
It's no good blaming traffic on any vehicle that cant pass because some selfish idiot has blocked its right of way................and its not just bus's that get held up its also other larger vehicles all because of selfish drivers and the lack of enforcment from the relavant Authorities !! However the enforcers need to be educated and qualified to do so which is another problem over here as future enforcers would have been trained by the previous and present..................gawd help us.
Daenerys Targaryen
Oct 9th 2012, 21:14
We need a government who has guts, lots of guts. Too many idiots double park or block the road, equip the buses with strong metal on their fronts and let them PUSH the offending vehicles away until they're no longer an obstacle. We'll see how many more idiots park and block roads when they have to travel miles to find their damaged car.
Malcolm Mizzi
Oct 9th 2012, 21:38
I use arriva everyday and I don't know why a lot of people complain about it since I hardly ever wait for more than 10 mins or a ever takes more than 30 mins.. still, the bendy buses are a complete joke because they are not fit for maltese streets.
James Dewar
Oct 9th 2012, 22:19
David, re your first sentence............and I wonder why? Good effort on your part though a valiant attempt to defend the indefensible!!
Dave Alan Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 19:02
Mathematics? I thought Mathematics was an exact science, not some wishy washy term used to bend the truth.. less congestion? pull the other one!
Joe Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 21:48
Ghadni kemm Ghafastlek il-buttuna LIKE
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 18:57
As Julian Clary would say, I feel a motion of no confidence coming on.
carmel cassar
Oct 9th 2012, 18:55
Mr boris johnson has certified and stamped austin gatt's failures. It is the last nail in the coffin.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 18:41
Whoever drafted this reply (and from the tone I would not be surprised if is Dr Gatt himself) has obviously never ridden on a bendy bus, never tried to catch a bus and does not know anyone who uses the bus service. Life is much more different, dear Minister, than your cosy world of chauffeur driven cars and mathematics worked in the comfort of your office. Sometimes I wonder, does the Minister ever read the letter pages of the Times?
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 20:11
They all have a car and driver provided by us taxpayers. the only time Austin Gatt rode an Arriva bus was on the eve of the inauguration of the service, when Dr. Gatt had made his, now famous or infamous, declaration: " MINN GHADA JISPICCAW IL-BUZULLOTTI "!.
James Dewar
Oct 9th 2012, 22:17
And presumably they were wearing blinkers and rose-tinted spectacles!!
Maurice Cini
Oct 9th 2012, 18:31
Please note that the passengers making use of public transport in Malta DO NOT APPRECIATE the comfort of the Bendy buses as the Ministry of Transport Malta had reported. Besides After MORE THAN 15 months in operation,Arriva Malta is still NOT giving the Maltese PUBLIC the so called promised service regarding times.
Times of Departure/Arrival are NOT BEING RESPECTED TILL THIS VERY DAY. This is because NO ONE IS RESPONSIBLE IF THE BUS LEAVES VALLETTA BUS STATION IN TIME OR NOT. THIS IS EXCLUSIVELY TO ARRIVA DISCRETION. NO ONE FROM THE TRANSPORT MINISTRY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEPARTURE or ARRIVAL OF TIMES OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT.
I have contacted several times ARRIVA,TRANSPORT MALTA, THE MINISTRY and EVEN THE PRIME MINISTER regarding this issue. NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN.This is especially re:Route no 3. You JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN AND IF THE BUS IS COMING OR NOT. One should note that the service had already been reduced on Sunday and public holidays to one bus every hour!!! IS THIS THE WAY PEOPLE WHO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORT ARE TO BE TREATED?
Alfred Falzon
Oct 9th 2012, 18:30
Whoever said that transport and car parks are not a priority for us commoners, need only read the comments attached to this article.
Thomas Rubicon
Oct 9th 2012, 18:28
Fellow commentators, please reserve your comments in English.
I have a mind to send a link of this page to the honourable gentleman in the UK.
"....we assure Mayor Johnston that passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort ..."
Comfort!!!???? What comfort - it show that NO ONE from the Malta Transport Ministry has ever boarded an articulated bus, "lovingly" called "bendy"! The sheer noise and clatter of this ride, apart from the danger of falling parts from the ceiling, is beyond belief. I have seen Arriva drivers lumping these parts onto the luggage cage behind the cabin. It's shake, rattle and roll all over.
But wait hey, let's be fair - it's NOT all the fault of the dear bendy ...it's the atrocious condition of our roads that must be giving these Mercedes type buses a very bad name.
P.S. Did you notice how quick was our Transport Ministry to react to this news?
Not so with the deluge of daily complaints, both written and phoned, since Arriva took over public transport in Malta.
GL Calleja
Oct 9th 2012, 18:26
Why can't the Maltese government and especially Austin Gatt admit that they made a mistake. I think that would solve half of the problem and more. Don't worry the Mayor of London has a lot more problems to solve than getting rid of Bendy Buses. That is the least of his problems but he doesn't want to talk about that. On the other hand like one other commentator wrote below. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. So Government and Mr Gatt keep that in mind when it comes to London mayor Boris Johnson being fooled. He will surely get his turn.
Daniel Dimech
Oct 9th 2012, 20:38
it's called EGO
Shaun Anthony Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 18:26
Less constitution? Don't they use a larger engine? Also do they operate in other major cities? I don't think so! I have problems on the narrow roads with a mini car. Truth is the Ministry of transport is finding an excuse to justify their blindness to the obvious - they tried to be clever but once again they failed!
Alfred Falzon
Oct 9th 2012, 18:21
To the Ministry of Transport: You say it best when you say nothing at all. By the press statement you show that you are living in cuckoo world.
Joseph Fava
Oct 9th 2012, 18:10
This latest controvrsy about Austin Gatt's disasterous choice foe 'new buses' for Malta reflects the poor state of journalism here. I cannot understand, and all those who read Jason Micallef's blog cannot understan either the reason why no journalsit cared to note that it was Labour Shadow Minister Dr Helena Dalli who first quoted the comments made by the fiery Mayor of London. On Jason Micallef's blog it was clearly stated that they had gotten their news from Helena Dalli's Blog. But in malta who cares about serious journalism ?
George Cassar
Oct 9th 2012, 18:07
As a Maltese citizen I feel humiliated and angry that the standards of my government are so low that it accepts our great nation becomes a dumping ground for unwanted British buses and ambulances. Shame for this colonial and servile mentality. Who is going to bear responsibility?! SHAME!!
Jimmy Abela
Oct 10th 2012, 06:17
As long as they are not second hand cars 'dumped from Japan' , it seems not to be an issue..
Joe Fenech
Oct 9th 2012, 18:02
Well done to language grasp of whoever wrote on behalf of the ministry!
NO, BENDY BUSES ARE NOT TO BE FOUND ALL ROUND EUROPE!
Ronald Zammit
Oct 9th 2012, 18:01
"we assure Mayor Johnston that passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort and the sheer capacity of articulated buses as they comfortably carry in a single bus journey what used to take 3 to 4 buses before." LIKE HELL WE DO !!!!!!!!!!! These Bendy buses are causing kaos in our streets all over the Island! If only our roundabouts could speak!!!!!!! I have personally seen Bendy buses damaging our roundabouts and sharp corners more than any other vehicle on our roads!! "Qabza fil qwalita u il Buzullotti kienu spiccaw kien qalinna il Bravu Ministru Gatt!!! Jekk(zgur li le!) kien hemm bzon ta konferma ohra fil falliment ta dan il ministru...tghajina l Major ta' Londra Johnston. Il Qabza fil qwalita hija it tilqit li ma jridx haddiehor!! Tal MISTHIJA Sur Austin Gatt u la bella klikka ta' GonziPaNic !!!!!!!!
Carmel Serracino-inglott
Oct 9th 2012, 18:21
Usual comment from same person.
Robert Murrant
Oct 9th 2012, 21:45
Nothing to do with the person driving it ??????????
Doris Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 22:26
Dear Mr. Serracino-inglott, May I ask you if your ever used the bendy buses? If you ever did SURELY you can't hail them as 'comfortable'. So please let the people who use them have their say.
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 9th 2012, 17:59
First of all one has to take into consideration the roads in other cities in Europe certainly not the minute size of Malta and our roads.
Secondly London wanted to get rid of these second hand buses and malta took the bait.
They were brought to Malta by someone who is an expert on buses.
Jonathan Scerri
Oct 9th 2012, 17:54
The least The Transport Ministry could do was to pretend to ignore Mayor Johnston's comments for the simple reason that he is right and no excuse could justify having second hand bendy buses here on this tinier than London country.
K Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 17:50
Hon. Gatt seems to be the only one that appreciates these buses.
Less congestion? Have you ever seen one going through Mellieha?
Alfred Cremona
Oct 9th 2012, 17:47
Rather than blindly believing London mayor Boris Johnson or the MITC i prefer to see some commuters reviews:
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews68070.html
m piscopo
Oct 9th 2012, 17:43
Taf x misskhom tghidu x qal Ed miliband f intervista li ta qabel il kungres tal partit laburista ingliz.Dan qal li jekk ikun fil gvern il partit laburista ingliz irid jaghti kaz li fil pajjiz ma jkunx hemm l istudenti li jiggradwaw mill universita u warajhom il bahh izda jrid jara li jkun hemm istituzzjonijiet edukattivi biex jaghtu tahrig lil studenti f hiliet vokazzjonali. Dan hawn malta ilu snin li qed isir bl MCAST,u l inlizi qed jahsbu biex jaghmluh fil futur. Bir rispett kollu dan tridu ggibu mela battuta ta membru tal konservattivi Inglizi fuq l arriva.U din l ahbar ta erba t ijiem ilu possibli ma ra hadd mit tmexxija tal partit nazzjonalista ghax jekk mhux certifikat tajjeb dan ghal partit nazzjonalista mela jien ma nafx x irid ikun.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Oct 9th 2012, 18:31
u x'ghandu x'jaqsam ma dan l-artiklu dak li qed tghid???
Victor Pulis
Oct 9th 2012, 17:42
we assure Mayor Johnston that passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort and the sheer capacity of articulated buses as they comfortably carry in a single bus journey what used to take 3 to 4 buses before.
Vox populi it certainly isn't!
C Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 17:41
Dawn bis-serjeta ? PUDINA WARA L-OHRA
FRANCO "Bring it on"
I say this as a nationalist, as this government is detached from reality. People suffer daily through this disaster on wheels and cheeky enough instead of admitting they made a mistake, which would have been a honourable thing to do, they issue a statement that offends our intelligence. SHAME ON YOU
RESIGN and call an election, I've had enough, this latest statement is the straw that broke the camel's back, I can't continue defending the undefendable, I will not vote labour, but all my doubts about not voting have ended with this statement. Go on the opposition benches as you deserve it and its all your making. TAL-MISTHIJA kliem bhal dak
Joseph E Briffa
Oct 9th 2012, 19:45
C Busuttil is a nationalist but he will vote Labour because of the bendy buses. He can't stomach somebody defending the indefensible, sorry 'the undefendable' I meant. For one thing, who has assured Busuttil that Labour will remove the bendy buses if they are in government? For another, is Busuttil's yardstick of a government's performance the bendy buses. If it is, then Busuttil's expectations are not very high. No wonder he says he will vote Labour.
stephen mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 23:24
whats wrong with voting Labour ?? the PN needs to know from voters like you that you are fed up with their incompetence so why not vote labour ... i am voting labour ... look at the arrogance this PN gov has and they have ruined Malta by taking our "old buses" which had so much charm character and personality .. so what some drivers were not polite but most where and they were fun to go on and the tourists just loved our buses and i know plenty who came back and are very sad that Malta got rid of these beautiful buses so yes we lost and Malta lost for the sake of,someone decision that was made for everyone .... baaaaa forget it look now the new parliament another white elephant in the making ... frogga wara frogga ... !!! ooh and €600 sure yes im voting labour .. so u abstain from voting because u don't want to vote labour ???? wow how immature
Anthony Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 17:40
It would be interesting to know whether Mayor Johnson, when speaking of/joking on the removal of bendy buses spoke also of a decrease on London roads of:
1. Arriva coaches to provide a better service to passengers;
2. noise pollution to the benefit of residents and passers-by;
3. the number of drivers who are paid from sale of Arriva tickets.
Will passengers have to pay more in future to make up for the increase in costs, including maintenance costs? Who is expected to pay?
If the removal of bendy buses does not mean an increase in the price of tickets, let's remove them because truly bendy buses (really "long vehicles" without such notice) do increase obstructions on roads whether it's in Malta or abroad.
Maria Vassallo
Oct 9th 2012, 17:39
My dear Lord Mayor of London Town,
why don't you mind your own business.
You have many bendy realities to deal with in London!
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 18:46
Looks like you cannot face the truth, Maria. Since you say it is not Mr Johnson's business what happens here, why are you then saying that he has more problems to deal with in London? That is none of YOUR business. Mur ifhem.
Victor Pulis
Oct 9th 2012, 19:45
Maria he did mind his own business and he made a very good deal at our expense!
James Dewar
Oct 9th 2012, 22:22
Something of an over-reaction to what I am sure was meant to be a light hearted (but probably accurate) comment from Boris who is renowned for his jocular antics.
John Edwards
Oct 9th 2012, 17:38
All I know is that when I left Malta in 2009, there was a very poor Bus Service. My wife and I returned to reside this year and we found an excellent Bus Service.
Boris Johnson is a Buffoon, he likes to attract attention with silly statements, ignore him.
C Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 18:15
You are the only ones that have found an excellent service, try it during peak hours before rushing to conclusions
Joseph Vassallo, (Bugibba)
Oct 9th 2012, 18:18
Abslutely! he delights in making a spectacle of himself... Ask Ian Hislop.
The bendy buses are a good idea, if only on specific routes of course, because they are too big for most Maltese roads.
James Dewar
Oct 9th 2012, 22:30
John, your timing suggests that you missed the absolute chaos that commenced at midnight on 03/07/11 and continued for many many months. That bitter memory remains with many and there are still genuine concerns that Arriva has not even yet fully provided what they promised in their pre-launch publicity. Boris Johnston is no buffoon albeit he can frequently be perceived as one. He has had many successes not least the "Great Bendy Bus Clearout" ! Bus service apart I do envy the fact that you have returned to reside in Malta as the Scottish Autumn / Winter starts to take hold!
Andre Grech
Oct 9th 2012, 17:34
Its incredibile how the Maltese people are against everything.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 18:48
Not true. We want things done rightly and we want value for money. I like to see my hard earned cash well spent and I want to know why it is being spent and on whom. I would hate to know that my cash is being used to finance a political party, for example.
M Mallia
Oct 9th 2012, 19:44
Do you use the service daily. Then shut up
A Tonna
Oct 9th 2012, 23:21
Maltese people are not gullible any more. They have become more intelligent thanks to the PL who started free education to all. They have started to believe in quality living and want to be as the rest of Europe. What's wrong about that. Yes, we should stand against what is wrong.
Paul Bajada
Oct 9th 2012, 17:33
The Transport Ministry, again and as always, gets it all wrong! First the bendy buses need to make it to their destination before even contemplating using them instead of 3 to 4 "bespoke" buses.
Such a ridiculous statement. It really shows the Transport Ministry is living on a different island we do.
Malcolm Seychell
Oct 9th 2012, 17:32
Mayor Johnson you are right. The absolute majority of the Maltese do not want this rubbish. However he ministry is happy. They are so happy that the guy who managed this disaster is now a PN candidate.....
Good Luck Mayor. You did the best for your people. You managed to throw your rubbish in Malta and we paid for it
Carmel Serracino-inglott
Oct 9th 2012, 18:26
Majority or some who are always ready to criticize everything that the government does? These some are 99% LP supporters
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 20:16
Carmel Serracino Inglott: If you follow the public opinion surveys, you should know that a good percentage of people who had voted GonziPN, now intend to vote PL. quite a number of them probably were convinced because of he Arriva fiasco, besides other fiascoes committed by the same minister .
Malcolm Seychell
Oct 9th 2012, 20:48
Good to know there is someone else happy with arrive apparti lou bondi.....
Charles Micallef
Oct 9th 2012, 17:31
Conservatives, we assure Mayor Johnston that passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort and the sheer capacity of articulated buses as they comfortably carry in a single bus journey what used to take 3 to 4 buses before..................they are far too arrogant to accept that Bendy Buses are not built for Maltese Roads!
As Boris said they clogged the streets of London and they are now causing congestion in Malta, and please drop politics from the issue to try and defend the indefensible!
M Cassar
Oct 9th 2012, 17:26
How time changes us all. Minister Gatt used to taunt the PL with the Strouger telphone exchange and the second hand turbines bought from Sicily in the seventies.
Now we are the laughing stock of Europe when we buy buses that nobody wants. The bendy buses and Arriva will be the legacy that the smart know-it-all Minister Gatt will leave to future generations.
Victor Laiviera
Oct 9th 2012, 17:24
"They operate in just about every other city in Europe with high bus passenger numbers."
What about the width of the roads in these cities?
Carmel Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 17:56
Lisbon for instance. Some streets are narrower than here.
Do you know what's the difference? Portugese people do not moan that the bus stop is not outside their door step,frequency of bus service for remote and less populated areas and most importantly they never park on bus stops and rarely at corners hindering turning buses as frequently seen here.
Another city? Dordrecht in Holland and other smaller towns. Check on the width of their streets before commenting any further.
Mind you, I'm not saying that only the people are at fault and things could not be improved, but hey, if one mentions facts lets' get them correctly.
m. borg (slm)
Oct 9th 2012, 20:13
Go live in Portugal then
stephen mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 23:26
yeah go live in Portugal then .....
Joe A. Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 17:22
Dear Major Johnston,
Don't believe a word that was said by Hon. Gatt. He is only the minister that is facing a vote of no confidence presented by his fellow parliamentarians because of his failures!
Keep up the good work.
Just Joe.
J Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 17:48
Dear Major Johnson,
One other thing Hon Gatt was that minister that has given all the doom and gloom moaners the opportunity to have a go at the advanced internet technology we have here in Malta and which is also considered one of the tops in Europe.
C Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 18:22
@J. Busuttil
What has internet to do with Arriva AHHHHHHHH Ok now I understand if you go on Arriva's website you can get their time schedule which is punctually kept !!!!
I really enjoyed their bendy buses this summer with commuters packed as sardines and no AC
hallina tridx gej bl-aqwa internet techonology .... what about the electricity tariffs they are among the top in europe
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 18:51
J. Busutiil: who told you that our internet technology is considered tops in Europe? Only Dr Gatt's ministry keeps on repeating this spin. Ask any foreigner what they think about our internet technology and you will be seriously embarassed by their reply.
J Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 19:19
@ Andrew Camilleri
And you call your comment not spinning. Give us a break
Dorothy Fenech
Oct 9th 2012, 17:22
and it is precisely the defensive attitude presented by the ministry which were mere mortals find so infuriating! passengers in Malta do not appreciate the comfort of these bendy buses especially when they arebeing driven 4 or 5 in a row/ not fitting into bus bays or worse still being driven recklessly considering our roads. they have NOT reduced congestion and judging by all the scratches and bumps many of them already carry they will not last long!
the London Mayor was right!
R Axisa
Oct 9th 2012, 18:37
so very true.
James Wightman
Oct 9th 2012, 19:44
Yep
cesco di luigi
Oct 9th 2012, 17:19
Dear Mr Johnson
the Ministry might have got full marks in Maths, but please excuse it for spelling your name Johnston instead of Johnson.
If you want the real opinion of the Maltese public, come and visit us and spend some time at Valletta bus station, where transport Ministry officials are conspicuous by their absence, probably bust devising some other devious scheme.
Yours
Going round the bend
Mr Joseph Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 17:17
maaaaa how embarrassing
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 9th 2012, 17:16
Is the transport ministry seriously defending the use of articulated buses in Malta? With our narrow roads double deckers would have been a far better alternative.
Can the minister provide proof of who opted for bendy buses?
WAS IT THE MINISTRY OR DID ARRIVA DUMP THEM IN MALTA AS IS BEING STATED?
Carmel Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 17:58
Holland, Portugal and Spain too have many narrow roads like here and they successfully use bendies on them!
victor caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 17:14
Austin gatt will be asked to organise the next olympic games, as boris had, obviously helped by wizard delia....any bets
J. Debono
Oct 9th 2012, 17:14
I suppose London bendy buses were replaced by double deckers. So capacity remained on the same levels as with bendy buses, with the difference that passangers have to climb a storey of stairs to take their seat.
pat muscat
Oct 9th 2012, 17:10
Kemm kienu jghidu li Mintoff tas-second hand: qed nitkellmu 40 sena ilu meta konna ghandna kemm bdejn
nimxu; illum,fil-2012, ergajna koppi: nibilghu r-rejects ta haddiehor u' to add insult to injury', jiddiehku bina !
Sintendi, taht GonziPN , hadd ma jirrezenja, u jekk jitkecca mill-bieb, jerga iddahluh mit-tieqa!
Dik umilta , serjeta u trasparenza!
Alfred Fenech
Oct 9th 2012, 17:26
Now even londoners laugh at us with the bendy buses, They got rid of them and we got to lump
them. No wonder we are nicknamed Mickey mouse country. Il Malti joqod ghal kollox .
John B. Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 17:09
The Ministry's press release speaks of less congestion" thanks to the introduction of bendy-buses. This is of course not taking into account the congestions caused when one of these buses breaks down in the middle of a busy narrow street. Can the Ministry tell us how many break downs have been recorded since Arriva started operations in July last year?
Michael Grech
Oct 9th 2012, 17:21
Congestion is not cause simply by the break down of Arriva buses. It has increased, contrary to what the ministry said (top officials in Ministries tend to have drivers ... I do not so I can tell), because more people are using their own cars
Chris Finch
Oct 9th 2012, 17:09
Dear Mr Gatt, teh passengers on them might appreciate them, but other road users certainly don't. What with them not fitting into bus bays, blocking junctions and being driven as if they are F1 cars.
J Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 17:09
Prosit Austin you could not have said it better.
Doreen Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 17:24
@ J Busuttil
To post such a comment you must either be a blind supporter of Austin Gatt or have never been on an Arriva bendy bus.
J Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 17:53
@ Doreen Attard
I use it every day as it is on my route for your information. It had problems at the beginning but cannot complain now. Are you not a blind supporter even yourself. Kindly do not write back and say you are not.
C Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 18:12
j. Busuttil
I had problems at the start and still having problems with Arriva.
Its shameful that my travelling time from 30minutes has jumped to 50 minutes, same route by the way. I forgot I travel daily to Valletta and back home, I do not live in Mellieha but in St. Julians. Stop defending the undefendable
Victor Laiviera
Oct 9th 2012, 17:08
To err is human. To persist in error is diabolical.
A Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 17:05
Anyone else find it interesting that the second hand buses from London are Mercedes while the new buses ordered specifically for Malta are all made in China?
J Martinelli
Oct 9th 2012, 17:05
Same names, same old gripes, same Party.
Mr Joseph Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 17:22
Judging by your comments...spot on :)
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 18:54
Martinelli, how can you comment on the local buses when you live in Canada. You do not even have a bus service in parts of Canada. Same old name, same silly excusues for the party that can do no wrong.
C Abdilla
Oct 9th 2012, 17:04
"Passengers in Malta appreciate the comfort ". Unfortunately I use them everyday they are without air-condition. Can anyone imagine during the last heatwave the comfort we experienced with closed windows???????
Doreen Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 17:27
@ C Abdilla
And what's more the Ministry's reply mentions that a bus load in a bendy bus is equivalent to three buses. This is contradicting the part about comfort because when a bendy is full the people look like sardines and definetly not comfortable and what's more only one third are seated.
ANTHONY PAVIA
Oct 9th 2012, 17:04
Ehhhh? How clever our Transport minister and his collaborators are? They have put Boris in the shadow and are now planning offering their expertise to Londoners.
Manuel Briffa
Oct 9th 2012, 17:03
Did the Ministry actually address the mayor as Johnston (twice) or is it a Times typo?
Joe Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 20:20
No,it's not a typo. Other papers have commented on this.
Brian Gatt
Oct 9th 2012, 17:00
Konna u ghadna nghixu f' pajjiz tal-Mickey Mouse.....
Patrick Rossi
Oct 9th 2012, 16:58
MITC: It's not the comfort of being a passenger that's the issue - these articulated buses are just not practical in our existing road infrastructure.. not at all comfortable driving next to one that's for sure.. a single bendy bus attempting a roundabout turn is enough to cause a congestion..
Doreen Gatt
Oct 9th 2012, 16:55
"By our mathematics that is considerably less congestion, rather than more..." bis-serjeta????
Are they actually living in Malta???? less congestion my foot....especially when they either get stuck somewhere or the driver decides to drive in the middle of two lanes blocking the whole road!!!! Maaaaaaa TM, Transport Ministry wake up pleaaasssssseeeeee!!!!!!!!!
ray vassallo
Oct 9th 2012, 16:54
Din kien jonqsu Wistin miskin. Ara veru l hmar il maghkus idur ghalih id dubbien!
joanne pace
Oct 9th 2012, 16:54
Malta got offended ! as usual we are the centre of the universe, Why did we order the bues then.
Doreen Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 17:29
@ joanne pace
Remember this is a private company and the buses were not ordered by any Maltese. It was Arriva u simply transferred the buses from London to Malta
ray vassallo
Oct 9th 2012, 16:52
"they comfortably carry in a single bus journey what used to take 3 to 4 buses before"
Where were these guys in the ministry living? Are they trying to take us for a ride? Can they tell us which destination took 3 or 4 buses? The maximum to every destination were 2 buses! And above all, it took less time to take 2 buses and arrive at your destination then one trip on a bendy bus which takes you all around the island before getting there. The only part who made profit out of the bendy buses is Arriva. Less fuel, less drivers to pay, more time to arrive at your destination. Now that is simple matthematics!
Charles Zammit
Oct 9th 2012, 16:52
Many a true word is spoken in jest !!
R. Balzan
Oct 9th 2012, 16:50
The Transport Ministry's reaction is puerile and borders on stupid. But now we're used to such stupidity from anything concerning Austin Gatt's ministry. Why doesn't he do all of Malta a huge favour and just vanish from the political scene?!
M. Debono
Oct 9th 2012, 16:49
Arriva was a farce from the get go, Austin Gatt should have resigned a long time ago, let just hope he does now!! The simple fact that he hasn’t still is all the more proof we live in an autocracy!!! I would like nothing more than to see Arriva out and the old system in, apart from a few are conditioned buses Arriva has done nothing but cause major traffic congestion as their buses in fact look worse than the old Maltese buses, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realise those buses would take a beating trying to navigate such narrow and congested roads.... Arriva buses were involved in 1300 accidents up until June this year... the figure speaks for itself!!!!!!
A Dimech
Oct 9th 2012, 16:48
This episode alone, is enough fo Austin to resign, if we were a decent country were people are held accountable. But we are not..... we are just GonziPN!
Frans Aguis
Oct 9th 2012, 16:47
If one goes on the roundabout next to baystreet saint julians on Google Earth we could also see an Arriva bus stuck there
Mr Clyde Ellul
Oct 9th 2012, 16:46
The new public transport system may have been a fiasco, but 10 points for Gatt's reply. :P
Joe Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 20:19
He couldn't even spell the mayor's name correctly.
E. Azzopardi
Oct 9th 2012, 16:46
Less congestion? Are we living in the clouds?
The PL has nothing to do with it. "Listen" to what the PEOPLE are saying. Listening is said to be an art, which many of us seem not to have. They only listen to themselves and to what they want to listen.
It has definitely not the reform we were promised. Apart from the clean, more comfortable buses and the better behaved drivers, the rest seems to have been forgotten. For goodness sake, let us face facts.
mark johnson
Oct 9th 2012, 16:41
I think you will find that a lot of MLP and Tories have a desire to be out of the EU in common.
victor caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 16:50
Why should we desire to be out of the eu. the eu is the economic miracle and is the only part of the world where the imf is projective a contraction of the economy. the eu forever, come what may, even not much can come from that way....
E. Azzopardi
Oct 9th 2012, 16:34
There we have it.
It is very sad that the transport reform has been a failure except for one thing. The buses are much cleaner.
Their was not the improvement that we were promised beforehand. Far from it. The other main reason for this reform was to decrease the traffic from our roads. It has not worked.
One has see this from the traffic jams in the mornings and evenings and most of the day. These are facts.
Every car has one person, the driver and many of them are going towards one direction, Valletta. We are even unable to car-pool let alone use the buses.
This was a big failure having spent all those millions. Those responsible should have gone long ago or given the kick. But it does not happen here. So, there we are. We are lumped.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 16:32
Will Dr. Gonzi also consider Boris Johnson's comment as a boost for tourism because he has put Malta on the 'IDIOTS' Map ?
silvio loporto
Oct 9th 2012, 16:32
So now we have to admit that Franco Debono is right,at least on the Arriva issue.
I hope that now, some Know It All, will stop insinuating and writing on her blog,that Franco is among other things BANANAS
If the word decency, means anything, to this person, I expect her to at least let us have her comments on the statment of the London Lord Mayor,of course if she doesn't think that he is collaborating with Franco..
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 16:28
E.-Gatt: This certificate should find itself on a PL Billboard, I suggest ! On this alone.let alone the numerous other fiascoes , Dr. Austin Gatt should resign from parliament, let alone from minister !
Louis Craus
Oct 9th 2012, 16:25
Dejjem nibilghu l- kanen ta' haddiehor u nghidu " grazzi "
E Bonnici
Oct 9th 2012, 16:25
Viva l-Inglizi u mbaghad nohorgu inpaqpqulhom. U dan kwazi qed iwaqqghana ghac-cajt ghall-kanna li blajna (jew li bellghawlna). Kemm ahna boloh!
m. borg (slm)
Oct 9th 2012, 16:23
No more excuses
AUSTIN GATT MUST RESIGN.
E Gatt
Oct 9th 2012, 16:18
The public buses reform was disappointing in certain areas - and yes the jack-knifed diplodocus” bendy buses was probably the biggest disappointment – but there were many positive points that are sometimes forgotten ever since we got rid of the xarabanosaurus buses.
• Less pollution
• More civilised drivers
• Air conditioned transport
• No more bone-shaking rides.
Darby Allen
Oct 9th 2012, 16:29
A pity that the "more civilised drivers" continue to use mobile phones whilst driving, thereby endangering the travelling public.
C.E.M. Delia
Oct 9th 2012, 16:13
Standard bus turning circle 20 meters
Bendy bus turning circle 23 meters.
Malta bend radius?
See http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Lifting/Transport.html
G G Debono
Oct 9th 2012, 16:13
Hey Guys
Lets sell them to North Korea !
Aaron Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 16:49
Meta jitla il-Labour, ghax bhalissa mhux hbieb taghhom Malta. lol
Victor Pulis
Oct 9th 2012, 16:13
Who knows what agreement was reached between the seller and the buyer? A well known maltese politician used to say that nothing happens by coincidence.\Xejn ma jigri b'kumbinazzjoni.
P Sciberras
Oct 9th 2012, 16:11
AZZURE AIR+RJ70+BENDY BUSSES.
mark johnson
Oct 9th 2012, 16:11
Malta always ends up with the out-of-date clapped-out useless crap that London doesn't want any more.
Why do you think I'm here :-)
Gillian Snook
Oct 9th 2012, 16:29
Well done Mark, the true British sense of humour ;-)
C Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 16:11
Lawrence Gonzi wants people to believe that European leaders consult with him about the problems the EU is facing, this is the guy who's government managed to do the impossible that is to screw the worst service we had with one that is even worse. You must be a genius to achieve something like this, while your people get paid thousands of euros for their "consultancy".
No wonder hundreds of nationalists are sick of oligarchy governing this country. I could not understand how fellow nationalists felt but I came to realize this and they are bloody right.
Alfred Falzon
Oct 9th 2012, 16:09
Rt Hon Johnson, Thank you for you enlightening comment on Arriva's bendy buses. Pls note that it is not only the bendy buses that has clogged our roads but the whole system has failed. In the recent past, we had our bone-shakers, we had "arrogant" drivers but they all worked hard to got us to our destination on time. And that they did. The average traveling time was 30 minutes. Now, we have Arriva, we have air conditioned buses but we have no guarantee that we will reach our destination on time. We have to wait and wait and hope that somehow, some time we will eventually reach our destination.
C Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 16:46
Agreed
My travelling time from St. Julians to Valletta and viceversa used to take not more than 25/30 minutes with the old buses, With Arriva if I am lucky it takes 50 minutes not including time wasted waiting for a bus.
If somebody would have told me that I would be missing the old drivers and theirs buses I would have laughed at them, today I would not ....
m. borg (slm)
Oct 9th 2012, 16:08
No need for a parliamentary motion , AUSTIN GATT must resign he has embarassed Malta, gonzipn and himself.
Delia should be struck off gonzipn's candidates' list.
Aaron Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 16:52
And also, we should get Dr. Dalli from Brussels to become Prime Minister and put Dr. Debono as Justice Minister. As if the PN is going to take advice from a Labour elf. Hallina, M. tridx.
Mark Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 16:00
And all thanks are due to the one and only Austin Gatt and "the brains" behind the public transport reform Mr Manwel Delia. They do Malta proud!
ALBERT FENECH
Oct 9th 2012, 15:55
This comment will not bother Dr Austin Pio (or is it now "pipi") Gatt. He never loses any sleep over people complaints because people are always complaining. Besides , who is this Boris Johnson guy - well, he is only the Mayor of London and an aspiring replacement for British PM David Cameron. That won't bother Dr Gatt either. As Sir Alf Ramsey said when England won the World Cup in 1966 - let them all come! We are the Gatt/CC/DCG/Gonzi-PN country and we can take on the whole world. "Flimkien kollox possibli".
ALBERT FENECH
Jon Vercellono
Oct 9th 2012, 15:54
@Stephen Mifsud - I do not think you ever used the old bus system which you are nostalgically praising. Whatever the faults , this system is 100 times better and more professional than anything which we had before (and for all of those praising the old system's punctuality - remember, we could and were held hostage by drivers whenever it fancied them). Being sworn at, being told contrary information at the terminal, always travelling before 10 as the system shut down, give me a bloody break sir, this system is 100 times better. There is work to do, but its a much better system, and has forced a standard on those who drive buses.
m. borg (slm)
Oct 9th 2012, 16:12
Mr Vercellone changing one failed system with another is not the answer especailly when millions of Tax euros were in volved and God know's how much money changed hands.
At least with the old sytem the traffic jams we are experiencing today were almost zero. If the old buses were refurbished by new cleaner engines and the seatings redone we would still be enjoying a tourist attraction that has been lost for ever.
And it would have been cheaper to do so.
C Muscat
Oct 9th 2012, 16:30
I am better off now because I had to buy a new car. I used to leave my old car in the garage and with all the disservice I used to be alright.
I am sure that there is a lot of improvement in the arriva system that might one day be the service one expects in 2012. To add insult to injury we are still paying the arriva millions!!!
Dan Atkinson (LLD)
Oct 9th 2012, 15:54
is soltu hawn Malta, nitwekkew bl-imbarazz ta hadd iehor.
Patrina Avellino
Oct 9th 2012, 15:41
When a few months ago I read the article in one of the Highways Magazine that London were scrapping the last 12 bendy buses in London, I had a very strong feeling that these would be heading to Malta! Localised Transport Planners/Engineers should have analysed at Consultation Stage that Bendy Buses are not suitable for the narrowed roads of the town and villages in Malta.
Marie Roberts
Oct 9th 2012, 15:35
I think we got a bargain, don't you lol.
GL Calleja
Oct 9th 2012, 15:29
When you are handed a lemon you will try to make lemonade. Good or bad the bendy buses are here and one way or another we are stuck with them, it does not matter whose fault it is. So what to do? Bendy buses can work. Transport Malta and Arriva have to keep these monster buses exclusively on long and direct runs only. Example use them on direct routes like from Cirkewwa to the Airport,Cirkewwa to Valletta and so on and so forth. Take them off local city routes because that is where the congestion is. You cannot fit five litres of water in a one litre can. Get it together TM. True that Austin Gatt committed a big snafu but Transport Malta has to take the cake for incompetence. What amazes me is how on earth the government never even thought of replacing this incompetent management who created this maze in the fist place.
Ramon Casha
Oct 9th 2012, 15:43
"Good or bad the bendy buses are here and one way or another we are stuck with them,"
Says who? We can get rid of them in the same way others did - by banning their use on Maltese roads. All it takes is a new government.
Victor Laiviera
Oct 9th 2012, 16:01
"When you are handed a lemon you will try to make lemonade. "
True - but you also make sure not to buy fruit from the same place in future.
R. Balzan
Oct 9th 2012, 15:29
Kapolavur iehor ta' Agostino Pio! Min qal li dan haqqu jigi ccensurat mill-Parlament?
Austin Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 15:29
Dr. Franco DeBono, bring it on!
A. Mizzi
Oct 9th 2012, 15:26
Bendy Buses just drive anyone round the bend just driving on the same roads , even if there is no bends!
Who was that Maltese "ċuċ " that brought them over and gotoff Scot free and ARRIVA are still getting millions in Government Grants?
Min hu bhal GONZI & CO.?
Jonathan Grech
Oct 9th 2012, 15:21
we dont have a single bus stop that fits a bendy bus
Victor Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 16:10
100% correct Mr Grech, no planning at all , who cares we are Maltese !!! Mr Austin is our transport leader so who can beat US
Charles Mangion
Oct 9th 2012, 15:17
Mr Delia take notice if u are going to be the next transport minister
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 15:51
God forbids us all!!
David Farrugia
Oct 9th 2012, 15:53
never will
Mark Fleri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:17
When will we see the first bendy bus to burst into flames?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ_FjpHnBOw
Andrew Holland
Oct 9th 2012, 16:02
You won't because that was due to a defect in the design of the bus that was retrospectively put right years ago. When the fleet was taken off the road for a few weeks due to the tendency for spontaneous combustion that they had, Mercedes engineers from Germany came over to see what the problem was, identified the cause (it was, if I recall, a pipe that was either breaking or coming loose and spraying hot oil over the engine compartment, which of course resulted in rapid ignition!) and fixed it by redesigning certain parts. The Mercedes bendies are many things, but they are not mobile BBQs... least not when the air con is working eh?!
Alexander Pace Gouder.
Oct 9th 2012, 15:07
Quite True. These Bandy Buses are a disaster on our roads especially I can speak for where I live: St.Julians Seafront Streets. Traffic Jam galore especially when we have three even 5 buses sometimes behind each other 2 No 12, 2 No13plus X1 and so on. Worst when they stop on the Bus Stops ( coming from VallettaSliema side Bustops both in Main Street, Near Plaza Hotel,near Maridian Hotel, Borg Olivier Street by NP Club. Spinola and St.Georges Rd., and all bus stops coming down from St.Andrews up to the whole of Tower Rd., Sliema.They do not fit. Not even the Normal Ones do.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - All this THANKS to the BRAVU AUSTIN (PIO) GATT.
Fran Abela
Oct 9th 2012, 15:04
As far as I know there are three or more bus operators in London, and not only Arriva operated bendy buses so this is discriminating against Arriva.
M. Spiteri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:21
Fran, read what Mr. Johnson said. He's speaking about the bendy buses not Arriva
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:04
Yesterday I predicted that PBS wil be excusing the purchase by government of the 100 parking places. This evening, PBS will be excusing the purchase of the bendy buses. Any bets?
Paul Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 15:57
Yesterday on PBS i heard a minister explain that the parking slots cost under 1 euro each, while I pay 2.50 to pay at the same car park. If this is excusing the government, you are simply blinded bu propaganda. Labour has said it will honour any contract... and they did not vote against it... so there goes your cheap propaganda...
Fran Abela
Oct 9th 2012, 15:03
There goes the anti-Arriva brigade ably helped by the Times of Malta. Do you have to report every negative news about our new bus system. Admittedly we could have done away with bendy buses but then we would have had more buses on the road. So take your choice and decide.
Ramon Casha
Oct 9th 2012, 15:45
The choice is pretty obvious: Two normal-sized buses for every bendy bus. Incidentally, if there's an "anti-Arriva brigade", this is one occasion where they're fully justified. Arriva knew perfectly well that these buses are no good for Malta, but they brought them over anyway.
David Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 15:55
Errrrrrm double deckers?!
Geez! Some constructive criticism never hurt anyone!
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 15:55
@Fran Abela: Since you are a Transport consultant guru, maybe you should have suggested your government to introduce double decker buses instead of bendy buses. Still these have to be used on wide road routes and not core villages but at least they wouldn't cause any congestion as bendy buses which also frequently break down. Also maybe you should know that before we were served by over 400 buses and now they shrunk to just under 300 to do the same work, no wonder that on many routes you have to wait hours.
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 9th 2012, 15:00
U dan wara li il-buses li kelna kien qed iduruhom u gabhuhom goddha u biex jehles minnhom u il-buzullotti ta' mohhu sewh 40,000,000 euro. Hudlu b'idejn Gonz lil Austin.
Fran Abela
Oct 9th 2012, 15:00
Wow thanks Mr. Johnson. Very diplomatic of you but then it has to be a Tory.
R ferriggi
Oct 9th 2012, 15:14
as if you are going to justify that they were dumped on us?!?!!!!!!!!!!!
he did what he had to do,,,, defend his citizens.
unlike our leaders,,,, who approved for those nasty things behind our backs.
David Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 15:20
You need to thank your own Minister of Transport!
mark borg
Oct 9th 2012, 21:03
thank that moron of austin
C. Bartoli
Oct 9th 2012, 14:57
Jista jghidilna Joseph Muscat x'se jghamel bil-public transport jekk jitla fil-gvern?
Simon Bonello
Oct 9th 2012, 15:16
tajba din xi trid taghmel issa la l froga lesta???????? min xarbu kielu l bakkaljaw jghid il malti !!
R. Balzan
Oct 9th 2012, 15:22
Kemm int kurjuz Sur Bartoli. Pero' dalwaqt taqta' xewqtek u ssir taf.
Joseph Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 16:31
Good one Bartoli, Genio missha semmietek ommok kemm int profond fil-hsieb.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 16:51
C. Bartoli: Din ahjar mill-ohra ! L-ewwel ibazwru kuntratt li jorbot lill-gvern ta' wara, u issa tigi tistaqsi l-Joseph x'se jaghmel ? Ma tisthix !
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 9th 2012, 17:02
Donnok ma tistax tnizzila din Bartoli. Imma kun ghaf li il fjask huwa ta Gonzi PN, immaterjali kif tiprova tbengila int!!
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 14:55
Malta - the butt of jokes at the general conference of the British Conservative party. Fhiex gabuna.
Ed Grove
Oct 9th 2012, 16:03
I can't wait to hear what they think about what you can get away with in Mellieha.
C. Bartoli
Oct 9th 2012, 14:54
Arriva u il-bravi partners Tumas group li gabu il-bendy busses u il-buses made in china li dejjem bil-hsara
Victor Pulis
Oct 9th 2012, 14:53
When the bendy buses were introdeuced in Malta I commented that Boris was laughing his head off not believing his luck at finding such suckers. As Manuel Delia used to say. the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We ate the pudding and it stuck in our throats.
Joseph Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 14:52
Nonfqu il miljuni biex nixtru l-iscrape ta haddiehor. Min dejjem hekk nafna. Min jaf kif gew immanigjati il flus. Il poplu kollox jibla la ma jkunx fil borma.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Oct 9th 2012, 14:46
May all those criticizing the bendy-buses kindly explain to me why all this criticism for such type of transport vehicle?
Please provide technical details and explanations, please.
Thank you.
JC.
Joseph Mizzi
Oct 9th 2012, 15:12
Qisek qed tgħd ikkritikani kemm trid, imma kkritikani bil-Latin Klassiku biss, jekk jogħġbok.
R. Balzan
Oct 9th 2012, 15:31
Trid ticcajta nispera sur JCS. Il-bendy buses mhux addattati ghalt-toroq ta' Londra ahseb wara ghall-isqaqin li ghandna Malta. Ghaliex? Ghax twal u goffi wisq ghat-toroq taghna u jikkagunaw stagnar tat-traffiku kontinwament.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 16:55
Joseph Cauchi Senior: All you have to do is to read the hundreds , if not thousands of comments from commuters who boarded these buses. And look at the numerous pictures reproduced in all newspapers, except GonziP ones !
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 9th 2012, 16:58
Ask Boris to provide you with the technalities. He certainly is in the know.
walter camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 20:29
Sur Cauchi Senior
Qieghed nisthajjel li illum int wisq "senior" beix la issuq u lanqas tirkeb il bendibusses. Kieku kont issuq kont tkun tghaf illi meta issib tnejn (gieli anke tlieta jew erbgha) minnhom wara xulxin fit-trieq, la jistghu huma stess jidhlu fl'istages, u lanqas ta' warajhom jaqbzuhom. Dawn l-ingenji (kieku kien hawn xi hadd jifhem f'tat-Transport) ma humiex tajbin ghat-toroq ta' belt.
Tant hu hekk li Londra u Parigi nehhewhom ghall kollox, u Ruma jintuzaw biss fejn hemm toroq twal u wesghin. Ahseb u ara, hawnhekk, povra Malta!
Walter Camilleri
Damian Testa
Oct 9th 2012, 14:39
Groan... another Arriva-bashing story. Honestly, how tiresome. Get a grip all of you commenting here. What did you expect? Hostesses handing out warm towelettes? A Playstation console on every seat? We now have bus service that's as good and as bad as any other in Europe, and a lot cheaper. But it certainly beats the stifling, soot-belching battered buses we had, driven by rude, short-tempered ogres who swore, stank and short-changed you.
Maurice Cini
Oct 9th 2012, 22:40
One thing the Maltese expects...........................................The Departure and Arrival times, which Arriva has NEVER KEPT since day one. That is what one expects Mr Testa.It is useless that we have had all formalities and than Times and frequencies are not respected.
Alfred Bugeja
Oct 9th 2012, 14:38
Boris and Jason have forgotten that most of London's Mercedes Citaro G buses have not ended up in Malta but in various British cities including Birmingham and Brighton. That's because Arriva was not the only company which operated them in London. I've seen some driving past in Brighton in roads that are probably narrower than Sliema's or Fgura where these buses are used most in Malta.
Boris evidently also ignored that several routes in London on which the bendy buses ran are now being plagued with problems of capacity since existing double-decker buses carry around 25 people less at full capacity. His New Routemaster bus also will not be able to compete with the capacity of the Citaro. The only benefit that Boris got out of removing the bendy buses is the decrease in the amount of passengers hitching a ride for free by boarding the bus from the rear doors. And anyway that benefit has been completely outweighed by the capital investment needed required to purchase a new fleet of double deckers (which carry less people).
And of course, only Boris and Jason are right while the mayors of Thessaloniki in Greece, Atsugi and Chiba in Japan, Strasbourg, and countless towns and cities in Germany, the Netherlands and the UK itself where the same Citaro G model provides a sterling service are wrong.
MT Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 14:35
This Mr.Boris Johnson seems very pleased to have dumped us with their arriva bendy -buses......
Good for you !!!! Thanks you Austin.
Noel Abela
Oct 9th 2012, 14:35
Xejn il vot tieghi ghal-Manuel Dellia Ghax l'akbnar froga ghamila hu.
Michael Owen
Oct 9th 2012, 14:35
Let us not forget we Brits are quite good at getting rid of stuff.
Look waht happened when we sold tower bridge to America. Or that's what they thought they were getting.
Turned out they got London bridge instead.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Kelly Down
Oct 9th 2012, 15:08
Yes I agree with you Mr Owen, when you got rid of India, look what you got quite a boost in the population, you ended up with more indian nationals than brits in UK, next time you go thru your own immigration you will find an indian asking you a brit for the purpose of your visit, in your own country. Sorry state of affairs don't you think
D Mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 14:33
If I am not wrong, I remember Dr Gonzi in one of the last independence meetings, saying that nowadays a Maltese could go abroad and not be ashamed to be Maltese. I am certainly not ashamed to be Maltese, but this is certainly not due to the current Govt
C. Bartoli
Oct 9th 2012, 14:51
We are now considered a country, whereas in the 70's everyone considered Malta a part of Libya. We also had a green passport.
D Mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 15:23
We r not more a nation...everything is decided for us by the big EU 'brothers' E xcept in some problems when it is convenient to leave us alone...such as the Illegal migration problem. And now we have a brown passport and eternally expired id card...big deal
m. borg (slm)
Oct 9th 2012, 16:14
Only recently gonzi boasted that second hand equipment is not in his vocalulary, but it seems it is in Austin's Gatt.
Eddy Privitera
Oct 9th 2012, 16:59
C. Bartoli: Malta was unknown up to 1970. tt was after Dom Mintoff came to power in 1971 that Malta was put on the map. Today we have been put on the "Idiots Map" as a result of Boris Johnson's comment. Which, unfortunately, is true !
Jon Vercellono
Oct 9th 2012, 14:31
Well, to all the commenters, they are full all day everyday - which should tell you something about the need for buses. Rather than run 2 or 3 one behind the other, they can take a bigger load and bring it to somewhere else. They are full, and rarely is there a seat to be had. Complain all you want, but at least we have buses at night, and a chance to get to work on time. Cars need to be reformed and restricted not buses. You talk about cliques, what about insurance companies??? (or agents for used or new cars). perhaps the double deck route would be better in Malta. we have the tourist ones, perhaps, Double Decked would be better for commuters too. WE CERTAINLY DO NEED BIGGER BUSSES THAN WE HAD ON THE BUSY LINES, WAKE UP PEOPLE.
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 14:51
It seems that you never used Arriva...in my case many of the times the bus comes lat or else it comes full up and have to wait an eternity to catch another one...tell it to those who live in SPB, Mellieha, etc. Apart from bigger buses (not bendy buses as they are unfit for our roads) we need more buses especially on certain busy routes and at certain busy times.
Anthony Paris
Oct 9th 2012, 14:56
Jon, you should WAKE UP and stop accepting the mediocre solutions that the PN always manage to find. AT least Mintoff brought second hand equipment here for next to nothing. These days we seem to be happy to pay through the nose for second hand solutions. Unfortunately there are too many people like yourself who are happy with these mediocre solutions. No body is denying the problems, but let us have a solution which is good value for money.
Jon Vercellono
Oct 9th 2012, 15:13
sorry Mr. Galea, I do use the buses every day on the busiest route - and catch it in msida. So your argument is for more buses - one right after the other.? Why not take more all at once, and lessen the traffic. Arriva do have double decked buses in London. Your statement that it come late or full up has led perfect credence to needing larger buses, not more.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 14:30
Go on, Dr Austin Gatt, tell us that Boris Johnson is a fool and does not know anything about buses - as you do, of course.
Thomas C. Cassar
Oct 9th 2012, 14:29
Il-buzullotti ghadhom maghna nahseb mhux spiccaw.
mario piscopo
Oct 9th 2012, 14:22
And who turned up on a SMASH TV progamme concerning Arriva yesterday evening after all these months ?
A bitter contrast with the previous prayer programme 'erga lura' with the above undesireable 'guest'
Joe Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 14:15
The " buzullotti" tag is spreading overseas now. At least we got some free advertising and every drop counts.
Mr Lawrence Mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 14:13
is it a comforting thought, that, the Arriva buses are not wider than the limit established by the EU?
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 14:57
Who cares. What I care about is that these bendy buses slow down traffic and even stop traffic at times when they cannot go round bends or get stuck in corners. What does the EU say about that?
pat muscat
Oct 9th 2012, 14:12
Blajna kanna; u hadd mhu accountable?. Imsomma, jaqaw dan Boris xi Labour elve ukoll? Shame on Boris!
C. Bartoli
Oct 9th 2012, 15:14
Jista jghidilna Joseph Muscat x'se jghamel bil-public transport jekk jitla fil-gvern?
James Dimech
Oct 9th 2012, 14:11
I prefer the bendy buses anytime in comparison to the bus drivers we had before.
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 14:45
@James Dimech: Your intelligence beats me. How can you compare a bus driver and a bendy bus? You always amaze me!!! If you don't know Arriva employed some of the former bus system drivers and some of the Arriva drivers still behave the same. Last week a driver of a bendy bus No. 42 from Valletta which departed 4:30pm last Friday, when it arrived at Mosta just few meteres down the road from Casa Arkati, the bus driver just stopped the bus abruptly in the middle of the road, ran out of the bus to buy a takeaway.
So this proves that your comments are so banal, and your futile attempt to paint every blunder that your 'no majority' GOnziPN does as a triumph and a necessity for this country. I think you should start maturing a bit or at least shut up.
stephen mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 14:54
i rather have have the Old buses Mr Dimech as they were part of Malta's history and the tourists loved them as much that i can say that Malta made a huge mistake removing them ...malta lost its charm when we lost the old buses ... and thats my final answer ....
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 14:58
You clearly do not use the buses.
David Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 15:13
It shows that you do not need to negotiate the roads with these monsters.
stephen mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 15:35
Mr Camilleri i assure you i was a regular user of the old beautiful buses ... and shame on you to for not seeing the charm they had ... you know its sad when people get rif of ther "junk" and they did not know they got rid of a "treasure " instead .....
J Farrugia
Oct 9th 2012, 16:25
Lets see,
Old buses hardly ever broke down, were driven by drivers who knew the roads /routes, cheap, pretty safe considering, yeah there were a few drivers who needed the chop.
Arriva: useless drivers, buses to big, always breaking down, wrong routes, expensive shall i go o
Albert Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 13:58
.....besides that our rooads are much narrower than the average London Road!!....try turing a bendy in front of Baraacuda restaurant in Balluta...It needs both lanes!!
Joe aquilina
Oct 9th 2012, 13:53
never anding story yipi ya ye
Mario Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 13:52
A great certificate to Austin (bużullotti spiċċaw) Gatt, and now Gonzi's Certificate!!
J Debrincat
Oct 9th 2012, 13:48
haha I heard that part of the speech!! He promised to get rid of the bendy buses from London because they were clogging up the streets and massively problematic and by finding a buyer (Malta) managed to save a bit of money too. It was very well documentyed what the issues with these buses were, In London which has wider roads than Malta, but obviously someone decided that they were suitable for Malta. it has turned us into a bit of a laughing stock
Boris is a strong, principal led politician who is not bullied into making decisions and sticks to his promises – maybe some of our politicians would do well to learn a few lessons but on this matter it would be interesting to know what the decision making process was?
C. Bartoli
Oct 9th 2012, 14:55
Arriva and their partners Tumas Group decided on the bendy buses and the buses made in china.
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 9th 2012, 16:48
"C. Bartoli
With the full blessings of Gatt&Malia for reasons best known to them!!
Paul Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 13:48
Bendy buses or not, what we should be concentrating on is to improve the punctuality of the system!
W Cassar
Oct 9th 2012, 13:46
NIce one Boris!
George Caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 13:44
Well done Borris. you should come out here and try and clear up our streets. I am sure you couldnt do a worse job then what we have runing our streets right now.
Tonio Micallef
Oct 9th 2012, 13:42
Boris of London should go to Gudja, Safi, Qrendi and Mqabba to see the Bendy Buses causing havoc in the narrow streets of these villages. Who said that "zmien il-buzullotti spicca". Shame! Of all places, the comrades of GonziPN in the UK Conservative Party, making fun of the bendy buses in Malta. Where is Austin Gatt!!!
A Zammit
Oct 9th 2012, 13:42
Although this is old news - see:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/13/london-bendy-buses-malta
It is nevertheless painful and embarassing that Malta should have accepted them. They are out of place and susceptible to causing grave accidents in our narrow streets.
anthony sultana
Oct 9th 2012, 13:41
Warbu min hemm, il BUZOLLOTTI qedin fl aqwa taghhom.
Karl Abela
Oct 9th 2012, 13:38
In this wretched country it seems you can never do anything right.
If the government spends alot of money on projects we call it a waste of money and if we try to save money we are suddenly the rubbish dump of the EU.
It seems that our logic is always hampered by political hatred towards the government no matter what.
Get a life.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 14:59
The problem, Karl, is that whenever this government does something it spends a LOT of money and does not get things right. I suspect that this happens at times because of some hidden agenda.
John L Galea
Oct 10th 2012, 08:33
@Karl Abela: If government spends a lot of money more than projected - it is a waste of money of which most go to some few pockets.
If government spends a lot of money on unneeded projects or faulty projects (e.g. Valletta defacing by Renzo Fiasco, Power station extension, etc) - then it is a waste of money.
The Public Transport reform was a huge fiasco.
The political hatred towards government stems from the fact that those who have a brain to the contrary of people like you, see that their taxes are wasted instead of spent wisely and this government has driven this country into a big hole of debt called 6 billion Euros. What did we get in return?...potholes, floods, poor health system, failing education, polluting power station, etc, etc.
Karl Consiglio
Oct 9th 2012, 13:37
The guy is a real Johnson!
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 13:36
Another certificate of success of GOnziPN & Austin 'Ghamilna pipi' Gaffe.
Liz WallikerG
Oct 9th 2012, 13:35
You can't blame Boris if he found someone stupid enough to buy them......
Chris Harris
Oct 9th 2012, 13:35
As a welshman living in Malta all i can say is thankyou Mr.Maltese Gov. for taken all our rubbish from our streets and dump'em in your country. thats very nice of you sir, ofcourse i still want my money back what you lot took off me when i brought my car into this country in a mint condition now a wreck so i guess these bedy buses just feel at home. Well said Boris me'ol sonner.
carmel muscat
Oct 9th 2012, 13:47
Mr Harris why dont you go and live in Welsh then
Colin Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 13:50
Well I see that some people prefer to leave heaven and live in a rubbish dump.
Joseph Micallef
Oct 9th 2012, 13:56
You can always leave. Unless the trade off between living here and ruining your mint conditioned mini is really worth it, which I believe it is.
S Azzopardi
Oct 9th 2012, 14:14
Dear Mr Harris,
Since you so eloquently are thanking the Maltese Government for tidying the streets of London and 'dumping the rubbish' in Malta, may I kindly propose that you return the favour and perhaps considering returning back to the UK. It would probably be the best way you can show your gratitude to the people of Malta.
vincent a galea
Oct 9th 2012, 14:26
But you say you are now living in Malta, Mr Harris!!! So what are you happy about? These buses have been dumped upon YOU as well !!
This 'rubbish' has not been taken off your streets... this 'rubbish' is now in your streets !!
You seem to be happy to follow this 'rubbish' and come and live where it has now been 'dumped' !!!
Dont know why you are acclaiming Boris!! He has now lumbered you with your own 'rubbbish' !!!!!!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:15
I always find it a bit strange how foreigners who live in countries with a way better system and general quality of life come to live here.
In my opinion, the ONLY advantage Malta has is that everything is relatively close by, that is until you get stuck in traffic, as, especially during storms, it takes less to arrive in London by train than drive to work. And let's not even mention what happens when a traffic accident occurs.
joe vella
Oct 9th 2012, 13:34
tghid Austin se jaghmillu xi libel lill Boris ?
William Caligari
Oct 9th 2012, 13:59
Joe Vella,
Hemm cans tajjeb li f'Bagit tajjeb jitnehhew mit-toroq ta'
Malta, inkellha ma' jkunx Bagit tajjeb!!!!!!!
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 14:47
@William Caligari: I suppose you are being sarcastic!
Andre Grech
Oct 9th 2012, 13:34
Even though I swear at these busses every day one should note that these buses were purchased by Arriva who happens to be a private entity and not by Transport Malta. I happened to ride on one some time ago and it feels better on them than on the old buses we had before the reform.
Why are we surprised that Malta was mentioned by a foreign politician. Our politicians are always comparing our country with our neighbors.
And malta is also being used as a junk yards for UK private cars too
Steve Mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 14:02
Well, the "junk" coming from the UK is a whole lot better than the crap that was already on the streets of this country. Do you remember the standard of cars in this country up until a few years ago?
stephen mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 15:01
bring the old buses back is all i have to say ,...ooh i how i miss them the look the sound the culture the drivers everything about the old busses good and bad was part of our Maltese cloth .... its a shame they are gone shame ...
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:01
Andre, the types and size of buses were specified in the tender which Atriva won - so it was Austin Gatt who approved the purchase of the bendy buses. He knew they were coming here.
Andre Grech
Oct 9th 2012, 17:55
@ Steve Mifsud
What I wanted to point out is that the bendy buses are not the only second hand vehicles imported from the UK. I myself bought a second hand car from the UK.
@ Andrew Camilleri
g I live in Sliema and travel with Arriva durin the weekends. Sometimes in summer three bendy buses pass after each other full up. So I guess we needed these buses on certain routes. What should have been done is control traffic and parking in certain corners from where these buses pass.
Unfortunately we Maltese complain about everything. We hated the old buses but we did not want Arriva, or most of all we did not have the patience for Arriva to start off. We hate waiting at the hospital but we are against the government taking over St. Philips. We are against bumpy roads but we do not have the patience to wait while they are being re done.And so on and so forth.
C Falzon
Oct 9th 2012, 13:33
Kemm qedin sew ukoll. And I believed everything what Dr Austin Gatt and the PM had said about Arriva. Not anymore. Sorry.
Tony Camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 13:32
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we all know that the Gonzi government has been a joke from the start. It is now also certified by those who lumped the bendy buses on him.
henry caruana
Oct 9th 2012, 13:30
Boris in UK know what our government and transport managers burdened MALTA with.
possible transport managers are more happy with their bank accounts much more
than what arriva and austin promised
A. Schembri
Oct 9th 2012, 13:30
@Mr Andrew Azzopardi
Biex jkun inad kollox, niftakar li fis 70's il gvern laburista kien gab id dumped buses mil londra ukoll. Fit minhim dawn ghadom jigu garaxjati f-garaxx tal education pembroke.
@Lawrence Fenech
Ma nafx min kien linteligenti dak iz zmien. imma dawn il karozzi ukoll ma damux fuq it triq. minjaf ghaliex. ghax diga kienu scrap forsi?
john muscat
Oct 9th 2012, 13:57
Jekk ghamlu sew fi 70's, allura ghamlu sew issa, jekk LE issa ghmlu hazin ukoll, la mohhna biss fl-imghoddi u mhux issa jew fil futur. Imma jighder li ghadek tghix fl-imghooddi u fil passat, Sur Schembri.
Matthew Grima
Oct 9th 2012, 13:59
So lets justify today's idiotic actions with the past's idiotic actions. We'll certainly move forward like that.
Philip Grech
Oct 9th 2012, 20:24
dawk li qed issemmi int kienu ghadhom jintuzaw fuq il-linja sa qabel l-arriva, u hafna minnhom issa qalbuhom privates. Dawn kienu il-Plaxtonx, Duple Dominant u ohrajn li bhalissa nsejt. Kellu bzonn baqa rgiel bhal ma kien Ganni Bonnici li kien imur jghazel il-buses personalment senza nteressi. Kull ma kellhom hazin kien li ma kellhomx bizzejjed twieqi jinfethu; haga li kienet giet solvuta wkoll. Sur Schembri, meta tinsinwa xi haga, ftakar li ghadf baqa nies minghajr dimentia.
gil falzon
Oct 9th 2012, 13:29
Pure logic and common sense alone should have sufficed in convincing the relevant authorities that the bendy-buses would never have worked in Malta.
Small, frequent buses should have been introduced. Also, a simple cable-car from Sliema to Valletta would have helped alleviate traffic to and from the capital. But of course, my ideas are of no value. Let the charade continue.
paul camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 13:55
cable car??? back to the roaring 30s??????
Reuben D. Spiteri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:09
I think a monorail between valletta and the two nearby areas would've been better.
Example: Sliema > Valletta > Birgu and back. These wouldn't be hindered by traffic as they'd go over the port.
I don't know if it's possible to have sections of it open up like a drawbridge for cruise liners, but if yes that would totally be worth it.
These would carry way more people than any bendy bus, and possibly complete a round trip in under 30 min. Heck they could do a circle-like track and have two running simultaneously.
paul camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:30
@ Mr Spiteri
while having a monorail would be a good answer but for it to be economical the line would have to extend melieha/St Pauls Bay/ St Andrews St Julians dragonara / cross over to Baluta/ all the way to the point cross to manuel island /Valletta.
even this would not be enough for the price to be economical but it would get you there in no time.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Oct 9th 2012, 19:38
Well i guess since digging an underground here is too prohibitive and facing the fact that we'd probably end up finding remains from 5 pre-history sites in the process, I figured the doing something above us would be next best.
It could be extended toward other areas, maybe even replace the whole bus system altogether. I don't know, I'll let the experts have their say on this.
A. Mizzi
Oct 9th 2012, 13:29
"Zmien il-buzullotti spicca!!!" u dew il-PNtomimi...... li jbikku u mhux li jdahqu!
Grazzi Dr. Austin Gatt, Grazzi Manwel Delia !
Albert Farrugia
Oct 9th 2012, 13:27
All well and good...but, to be fair, London has double-decker buses, whose capacity equals that of a bendy buses. All those who use the routes linking the North part of the island to the South can see that the demand for public transport is so huge, that not even bendy buses can satisfy it. So, ok, out with the bendies, but then?
Francis Raeymaekers
Oct 9th 2012, 13:46
Obviously... the new Routemasters!
Franco Attard Trevisan
Oct 9th 2012, 14:03
double deckers maybe?
Patrick Jansen
Oct 9th 2012, 14:03
Then more and smaller buses... easy.
G Vella
Oct 9th 2012, 14:09
Isn't it obvious? A higher frequency of smaller buses.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:03
The reason there aren't as many buses is because that would mean more wages to pay, more VRT tests, higher ticket prices, etc.
Then again I think people would prefer paying €2 a day and arrive to work on time.
john muscat
Oct 9th 2012, 13:26
Everybody except Dr. Gatt knows that we have been dumped by these bendy buses. But he doesn't care, in fact he's mum about Arriva and is not contesting the next general election!
R Axisa
Oct 9th 2012, 13:43
But his assistant Manwel Delia is! He had his share in the Arriva saga.
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 9th 2012, 16:40
@R A
Hekk hu il kapulavur ta Malia u l-anqas jisthi TA ha johrog ghall l-elezzjoni!!!
charles tabone
Oct 9th 2012, 13:26
This is another confirmed Buzullotta by the honourable Bully, Can he deny the Mayor's statement?
Joseph Mizzi
Oct 9th 2012, 13:24
Do the PN MEPs sit with the British Tories in the European Parliament?
D Mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 14:31
Yes of course...but they use the chairs discarded by the others
E Gatt
Oct 9th 2012, 14:36
No. The Tories do not form part of the European Popular Party.
The Tories form part of a political group of Eurosceptics – their position re Europe is closer to what MLP’s position was, and many believe, still is.
j brincat
Oct 9th 2012, 13:23
WOW what a certificate to TM for lumping us with these buses with which are now even being ridiculed by the Major of London!
AND who said that 'iz-zmien tal-buzullotti spicca?'
Who will resign (obviously no ONE)!
(jb)
R. Borg
Oct 9th 2012, 13:22
Gatt and Delia should hide themselves from the public, sure they don't diserve any vot from the maltese.
Charles Cremona
Oct 9th 2012, 13:22
These buses are a menace on the narrow streets of Malta. Even on the wide london roads they use to cause congestion and have now been replaced by comfortable new doubledecker Routemasters, while the hated old bendies were quietly shipped to Malta as a present by Arriva, enjoy.
Francis Raeymaekers
Oct 9th 2012, 13:22
A 'past sell-by date' politician, buying 'past sell-by date buses'. WELCOME TO MALTA!
B. Farrugia
Oct 9th 2012, 13:22
We really need some like Boris in Malta,
a rebel,
not afraid to say his mind
charismatic
able to take bold decisions for the benfit of his country.
A leader and visionary.
stephen koludrovic
Oct 9th 2012, 14:11
Was not Austin Gatt supposed to be our local trouble shooter?
The solver of all Malta' problems, such as the court services, sea Malta, urban transport, and smart city. His last mission before riding into the sunset, will be organizing the PN campaign for the next election.
Bernard Pollacco
Oct 9th 2012, 14:12
anna lil franco
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 14:47
Ghandna lil Franco Debono!!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:00
I believe that's a description of Franco Debono.
Maybe he should start his own party...
Malcolm Mifsud
Oct 9th 2012, 13:21
So much for the new fleet promised with so much pomp
Marco Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 13:21
oh look at Jason Micallef making fun of Malta ... the "gardinar" should be boasting with friends right now about what a true Maltese he is ...
John L Galea
Oct 9th 2012, 14:53
Il-gardinar has just pointed out on his facebook page what The Times is doing here. Or because it taints your 'no majority' failed govenrment GOnziPN, then it is a crime?
Dorielle Soler
Oct 9th 2012, 13:20
speaking with no politics in mind, I - for one- welcome the bendy buses as on my (Sliema) route, I don't get told full up often given their capacity for passengers.
Victor Calleja
Oct 9th 2012, 13:20
U Austin ghadu hemm!
R ferriggi
Oct 9th 2012, 13:13
BUT WE ALREADY KNEW IT DEAR BORIS.
WE ARE THE RUBBISH DUMP OF THE EU APPARENTLY.
BUT THANKS FOR MAKING THE NEWS PUBLIC AND OFFICIAL.
CAN ANYONE FROM THE GOVERNMENT REPLY TO THIS PLEASE???????
Mr Alfred Gatt
Oct 9th 2012, 13:20
is your capslock button stuck switched on?
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 9th 2012, 13:22
@Friggieri.
Stenna difiza shilha mill expert Austin Gatt u mhux ghal din biss irid jirrispondi.
Francis Raeymaekers
Oct 9th 2012, 13:25
Where and who is Malta's Boris?
R ferriggi
Oct 9th 2012, 14:35
sorry for the caps lock.
yes,,, good question,,,,,, who is malta's Boris??
who is REALLY in favour of the maltese and not 50/50,,,,, half malta's interest,,, half ''friends interest''.
Carmen Micallef
Oct 9th 2012, 14:56
Jiena mhux "reply" qed nistenna imma Bondi+ biex jezamina d-differenza bejn il-programm li ghamel qabel bdiet l-Arriva u issa li ilna nuzawhom sena u tlett xhur u ghadhom ma jzommux mal-hinijiet. L-aqwa li weghduna li mhux se nisennew iktar minn 10 minuti. Gidba mill-kbar nett. Ma tista' qatt izzomm appuntament jekk tuza l-Arriva!!!!
Mr Andrew Azzopardi
Oct 9th 2012, 13:12
We have become the UK's automotive dumpster
R Mallia
Oct 9th 2012, 13:19
Don't forget Japan.
R Axisa
Oct 9th 2012, 13:36
and their laughing stock too!
paul camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 13:44
@ Mr Azzopardi
Sir Malta has always been an automotive dump as you say this has been going on even before the leaglisation of imported second hand cars well before in fact scrapped trucks,vans and other heavy equipment were being imported into Malta since the early 60s
All you have to do is look at most older vans ( Transits) ( Commer ) and even trucks even DAF trucks are all 2nd hand if not 3rd hand hadly anyne can afford to buy a brand new large cargo van or heavy duty trucks so they opt for UK/ Japan ( has also become a player) 2nd hand cars and the odd scrapped one which could be easily refurbished.
as the UK have a tax rebate system in place on vehicles it is quite common that people in England sell off their cars even before the 5 year period.
Desmond Mangion
Oct 9th 2012, 14:32
What do you expect if our wages are not so good and not everyone can afford to buy new
paul camilleri
Oct 9th 2012, 15:36
@ Mr Mangion
Sir everyone understands that buying new trucks are expensive and one opts for second hand, which if checked and maintained properly would give a person a good run. however some people here made a comment that Malta is the UK scrap yard and i was mearly pointing out to him Malta was a vehicle scrap yard well before the early 60s and not just now
Lawrence Fenech
Oct 9th 2012, 13:11
Austin Gatt tant hu inteligenti li din il farsa ma giethux f'mohhu jew kellu xi interess iehor.
Pauline Busuttil
Oct 9th 2012, 13:37
Hahaha kemm ser jispicca l-karriera politika tieghu sabih Austin Gatt :::))))
Chris Attard
Oct 9th 2012, 13:42
Dr Gatt, "won't be losing any sleep on this "...
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