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NGO insists life imprisonment should be abolished

Life term imprisonment should be replaced by indefinite terms, and those sentenced to such terms should be eligible for parole, according to proposals made to the political party by Mid-Dlam ghad-Dawl (MDD), the NGO which works among prisoners and their relatives.

In a 20-point statement, the organisation said, among other things, that although the parole system was introduced six months ago, no prisoner has benefited from it yet and the mechanism still needed to be put in place for its effective implementation. The society said the law needed to be amended for all prisoners to be eligible for parole.

In comments on the life term sentence, MDD said this was an inhuman concept and, in line with the views expressed by the European Court of Human Rights, life terms should be replaced by prison sentences with indefinite terms.

The society called for more frequent recourse to other forms of punishment instead of imprisonment. It noted that close to 600 people were behind bars, crowding the prisons.

A prisoners classification system was needed so that those awaiting trial were held separately from those who had been convicted.

It said that prisoners should be given more opportunities for work and training.

It proposed a system of 'after care' to help prisoners once they were released.

The society also complained about the physical state of the prisons and called for an upgrading.

The same call was made with regard tot he quality of food.

In other points, the NGO suggested that a team could be brought from abroad to help in the modern management of the prisons

The NGO called for recruitment of prison warders  and insisted that prisoners who paid their taxes and social security should not lose their social security pension.

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Peter Seebohm

Oct 7th 2012, 11:04

and once somebody of your family is invovlved you would be the loutest whiner

William Spencer

Oct 7th 2012, 16:40

Cruel and inhuman ? Are not murderers, rapists, paedophiles, armed robbers, etc,etc exactly that !!

So why feel any pity for them. Long prison sentences cost the tax payers millions of euros annually. So why not stop being cruel and inhuman, and just execute them. That keeps scum out of society permanently, and saves millions !!

Joseph Vassallo, (Bugibba)

Oct 7th 2012, 11:13

@S Grech: You are truly UNBELIEVABLE. You indirectly determine that you are righteous and all who disagree with you are hippocrites. I'm surprised that you don't profess to having a halo on your head.

You said "MDD perform sterling work for all prisoners and more importantly their families..." They don't do anything for the actual victims and THEIR families then. THOSE are the real and actual victims.

You said prison is overcrowded... So what? Build a bigger one because it has become essential to do so. It is quite untrue that prisoners are being kept inside without reason because we have a generation of lawyers quoting sentences (including constitutional) that have ordered the release of those purporting to be held illegitimately. Even offenders who deserve incarceration are being let off with suspended sentences and allowed to think they can do the crime again with impunity.

You said prisoners are human and don't deserve cold showers etc... What is human about taking the life of a man, woman or child?

You said "cold damp cell, cold showers..." What century are you living in, if I may ask?

You said "...it is inhumane to try and take away their dignity too." What is humane about murdering someone? What is humane about orphaning a child? What is humane about widowing a mother?

Dignity? Where is the dignity in spilling the blood of a brother human being? Next you be calling for a state of martyrdom for those who actually discount theoir sentences. There is an absence of dignity even in cruelty to animals and we profess to that often enough so what about human beings then?

You said "MDD happen to be referring to lesser sentences eg white collar crimes, tax evasion..." NO IT IS NOT! This is about "LIFE MEANHS LIFE". Life sentences are not given for white-collar crimes... they are given for qualified murder.

A judgemental society? Really? Or is it a society that has become intersparsed with wannabe do-gooders trying to undo the will of the society to which they themselves belong. Now THAT, is hypocricy because I cannot imagine many not wanting to exact their pound of flesh when personally faced by these realities.

S Grech

Oct 7th 2012, 22:55

@ Joseph Vassallo: Do you feel better now?
No I do not profess to have a halo, far from it but I beg to differ from the opinion of so many who have posted here. That is my democratic right!!

I do not have to justify my opinion to anyone. I also do not profess to be a wannabe dogooder.

Yes what century are we living in? Prison cells in Corradino section Female A are cold and damp in the winter, with water running down the walls, the cells were built in the 19th Century!

MDD has given a list of proposals and they are just that proposals, which is some of the work this NGO perform, and yes I reiterate that they perform sterling work (difficult at times) with prisoners and their families and they do it voluntarily
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I at no time negated the importance of victims and their families but when a crime is committed the victim count is many.

For victims of crimes I agree there should be a lot more Victim support but government resources are limited and NGO's are few and far between.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121007/local/-My-mother-should-not-be-in-prison-.439897

Should this woman really be in prison? She now will have a tainted police conduct record for 2 years which virtually means no further employment.


Corradino Correctional Facility should be just that correctional. A place for persons who commit severe crimes against society like taking the life of another or maybe even worse, ruining the life, beyond repair of another.





Joseph Vassallo, (Bugibba)

Oct 9th 2012, 15:15

@ S Grech: You said "I beg to differ"... That is an ocean of distance from calling all-and-sundry "self-righteous hippocrites". You judged everyone and simultaneously complained that they were "quick to judge".

I did post a more exhaustive reply to your second post but for reasons known only to itself, timesonline has not delivered it. Never mind ey! I'm not anyone important after all.

Joe Scerri

Oct 6th 2012, 18:43

Why put religion in this?
Why assume that everyome is Catholic?
Why do you write in Maltese in an English newspaper?
Why assume that we all go to church?
Are you a victim or do you have family members who are?
Why don't you show some respect to the victims families?
I consider anyone who tries to defend criminals as a criminal.

Demi Tanti

Oct 6th 2012, 19:47

in my opinion, i don't think you're speaking the truth either. You are trying to guilt people into telling them that if it were their children they would look at it differently. Yes I would if it was my son, then again as a parent I would also be obliged to teach my son from right and wrong. Look at how Malta was 50 years ago, the people were much more religious than they are now and crimes were something you only watched on tv. Now, crime has become a normal thing which we often read about. All sorts of things have been done people killing their own wives, mothers, children and i'm sorry to say but maybe the death penalty should come back. I am a christian and i've attended religious schools for most of my life but i'm sorry to say that the death penalty should return because those who kill others should know and understand the damage they've done and caused to others instead of being granted more liberty and making prisons a better place to live in. come on, stop giving me a sob story and be realistic!

Joseph Pavia

Oct 6th 2012, 20:01

Reuben sakemm tkunx doqt il-hdura ta’ min joqtollok lil xi hadd ghaziz ghalik u ma esperjenzajtx il-firda kiefra li ‘ggib maghha din l-azzjoni krudili ma nahsibx li int jew xi hadd iehor li jahsiba bhalhekk tistghu taqbdu u titfghu lill kulhadd f’keffa wahda u tajru hodor lil min ifittex gustizzja li b’xi mod isserrah il-qalb tal-familja tal-vittma.
Dawn l-NGOs veru m’ghandhomx x’jghamlu biex johorgu b’wahda bhal din. Sentenza ta’ ghomor il-habs tinghata biss ghal min jinstab li qatel b’mod premeditat. Allahares ma kienx hekk! Min joqtol ta’ xejn il-forka haqqu u mhux ghomor il-habs. Talanqas illum nibghathom il-habs u mhux noqtluhom bhal ma jkun jixirqilhom.
Int semmejt kif suppost igibu ruhom l-insara! L-insara suppost jimxu fuq it-taghlim tal-Bibbja. Kristu kemm il-darba widdeb li kemm il-darba wiehed ma jgibx ruhu kif suppost jintefa barra fejn ikun hemm biki u tezziz tas-snien. Ahna nifghu qattiel il-habs u hemm jghix ta’ Papa ghal ghomru li filfatt tfisser 25 sena u inqas jekk igib ruhu tajjeb. Forsi jien zbaljat. Nixtieq li jien.

Josef Schembri

Oct 6th 2012, 20:31

Habib meta tbati I'll konsegwenzi ta haddiehor tkellem....

twanny borg

Oct 6th 2012, 21:03

naqbel......... kullhadd ghandu dimonju go fih....... kultant jaf jirkeb lil kullhadd.

Joseph Vassallo, (Bugibba)

Oct 6th 2012, 21:17

Quote: "Kieku uliedkom jiżbaljaw u jispiċċaw ġol-ħabs ma tkunux tixtiequ li jagħtuhom mqar ċans ieħor, jew tiġi taqgħu u tqumu minn demmkom stess?" Unquote.

Kieku xi hadd joqtol lil xi wiehed minn uliedek, trid taghtih ic-cans li jigi joqtollok lill-iehor?

IL-piena ta' ghomor il-habs tinghata biss lill-min jippjana li joqtol u jwettaq il-pjan kiesah u biered (cold-bloodedly). Ghaliex ghandu jinghata c-cans li jerga joqtol?

X'ghandu x'jaqsam ir-religjon u jekk imorrux ihabbtu fuq sidirhom dawk li ma' jaqblux li titnehha?

Erbghat ijien ohra ser ikun hawn min jghid li anke l-pedofili ghandhom bzonn l-imhabba u l-kura? S'issa kull ma qed nisinghu u li min jizbalja ghax ghandu bzonn l-imhabba tal-proxxmu jew ghax miskin ghal xi raguni jew ohra. U hallina gbin... Il-ligi qeghda hemm ghax hemm bzonna mhux kapricc ta' xi hadd li jrid jidher qalbu tajba u li jaghder. Dak li hu tal-Mulej tiegh lill-Mulej u dak li hu ta' Cesare tiegh lil Cesare.

Joseph Vassallo, (Bugibba)

Oct 6th 2012, 21:22

Nsejt nghidlek li vili u hodor huma dawk li jaraw it-tixrid tad-demm u ma' jitbaqbqu xejn ghax ghalihom "Heqq, Allura miskin/a zbalja/t. Ahfrulu/a ta' nsara twajbin li intom!"

G Hoare

Oct 6th 2012, 22:22

would you think the same if you had your child,father or mother taking away from you . killed by sombody in your opinion would be the same .

Mario Tabone

Oct 6th 2012, 23:08

I really feel sorry for you Reuben !!!
May you never have to go through the loss and pain when some scum of the earth criminal kills one of your family or rapes and kills a child from your family. Would you want to give him or her another chance ? Would you want him/her to get parole after a few years and be back out on the streets ? Don't bring religeon into it my friend . These criminals will not change and become saints just because you pray that they will !!!
Yes we should bring back the death penalty because since it was abolished there has been no deterrant to commit murder or such serious crime.
Parole should only be considered for those serving prison sentences for what can be deemed as minor offences.
Where somebody is convicted for things like murder by way of forensics only then they should remain on death row until they die naturally. But for those who are convicted and there is absolutely no doubt then they should face the death penalty . Child and police killers should be shown no mercy whatsoever.

Peter Agius

Oct 6th 2012, 23:48

Ezatt Sur Spiteri. Kieku ibni joqtol biex jisraq jew ghal xi barumbara ohra, barra difiza legittima, dan nisthajlu li fl-ahhar minn l-ahhar qatt ma kien ibni..........u haqqu l-forka.

carlos ellul

Oct 7th 2012, 00:47

Jien nemmen li hafna qeghdin jitkellmu kif jitkellmu b'response ghas sentenzi ridikoli li qed jinataw dawn l ahhar. Nahseb li naqblu fuq l fatt li jekk persuna isawwat persuna ohra, mghandux jehel sentenza sospiza.

R Ragunament tieghek li tqieghed l affarijiet fuq livell personali hu zbaljat u perikoluz. Tipo jien nista nghidlek xi tkun r reazzjoni tieghek jekk bintek tkun vittma ta rape jew swat. Cert li s sentenza li taghti l proxxmu tkun hafna aghar min dik li ser jehel fl qrati.

Fl ahhar ma naqbilx li idahhal r religjon fl istorja. Ma ninsewx li l aghar massakri saru f isem ta religjonijiet.

Shaun Anthony Camilleri

Oct 7th 2012, 07:16

Does it not say in the Bible an eye for an eye? Or do you take out what suits you and quote that? Also the law has nothing to do with Christianity as if it did adultery and, homosexuality to name what I can remember would be a crime. In the Bible criminals are punished too unless you have another version.

paul camilleri

Oct 7th 2012, 08:00

so you think a murderer and or a serial killer should be allowed out on the streets? this is tal wahx habib not that people would prefer the death penalty for such a monster because this is what they are monsters.

you asked if any ones offspring ( son / daughter) was put in prison for life how they would feel, this i cannot say for anyone but if it were my offspring then i would say yes because he/she took away an inocent life for what?? sex? money? or for what ever reason ( unless in self defence) this person son or not has turned his/her back on God and has become a monster.

people like this given the opportunity to get out of prison would lick anyones feet !!!!and go back to doing what they were doing before.

if your interested in why these people do what they have done go interview them especially the serial killer and see if he comes to you all sorry and never will he do such an act again.

like that guy who is accused in attacking the MMDNA nurse fgieh Alla mar fuq qablu biex min halieh ha bezza in-nies kieku jien kont nqaccat larblu bieh bkollox mela noqod nistenieh jinzel..biex issa qed Mount Karmel evita il habs ghal kollox!!!!!

so Mr Spiteri that is why most people here are and would prefer the death penatly, failing that, then LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE!!!!!

Malu Rosso

Oct 6th 2012, 20:24

Prosit very well said Joe Scerri. Next wednesday 10th October it will be seven years since my brother Brian Rosso was brutally killed and his body was thrown into the sea. Just three months and two days after our father John Rosso passed away because of a broken heart. These scums should stay in prison were they belong.

Elaine Debono

Oct 6th 2012, 20:57

Totally agree with you ... If these so-called people have caused serious injury to society they should not be chucked back with society ... It would be a major insult to the victims' families to let them loose again... And if the families of these felons think it's not right they should have educated them better or done their best to put them on the right path

GL Calleja

Oct 6th 2012, 19:31

And these bleeding hearts want you to forgive and forget? That will never happen because the loss and the hurt stays with you all your life. Take a life, then give a life, well at least in my book. You are right when you say, that in Malta money, politics and a good lawyer can get you anything you want.

Peter Camilleri

Oct 6th 2012, 18:47

@ Francis Grech

You are living in cloud-cuckoo-land, my friend. According to you, murderers should be given a second chance - to murder somebody else. And have you forgotten that victims are also human beings?

The piece de resistance of your post is your final suggestion to "forgive and forget". So, close down the prison, close down the law courts, and gloat over the amount of money the country would be saving. And when somebody robs you or kills someone dear to you, then think nothing of it, but just apply your "forgive and forget" maxim.

Hallina, Grech !!!

Josef Schembri

Oct 6th 2012, 20:34

So you re saying that you would adopt/give a murderer/rapist the key to live in your house yes?

carlos ellul

Oct 7th 2012, 00:50

And Christianity states then someone who died with sin will pass the eternity in hell.

We far less cruel.

Charles Sammut

Oct 6th 2012, 17:02

@ Joseph...I couldn't have put any better myself ! Bring back the death penalty.

A. Falzon

Oct 6th 2012, 17:10

Well said Mr. Borg. But it's not 'to pay back to society' but to the victims or there families. First time offenders should get another chance but the second time the sentence should be multiplied.

J Micallef

Oct 6th 2012, 18:08

Imma nafu li ma jinbidlux, Sur Borg, didhakx bik innifsek u haddiehor.

Daqs kemm irnexxieli ninbidel jien - hlief ghax zdiedli ix-xaghar abjad, difficli taqta vizzju zghir, ahseb u ara drawwa hazina, specjalment meta tkun saret parti mill hajja.

J Micallef

Oct 6th 2012, 18:09

Beautifully put...your first statement almost caught me out!

Guido Farrugia

Oct 6th 2012, 14:48

U mela!!!!! Halluna minkhom Mid-dlam ghad dlam. Throw away the keys or capital punishment. Jien napplika ghal- bojja.

Carmel Debono

Oct 6th 2012, 15:50

...and I will join you too

Eric Camilleri (Q)

Oct 6th 2012, 15:03

Well said Franco. The word Victim does not even exist in their vocabulary. For crying out loud they even want parole for "all" prisoners and a system of After Care to help these offenders, irrespective of their ruthlessness. Not even a word about the suffering of raped, robbed, mugged, traumatized, maimed or murdered victims and their greiving families.

Charlene Bonnici

Oct 6th 2012, 15:34

even 1 murder is enough!!!

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