Update 3: Eight injured in Coast Road accident
Seven tourists and a van driver were injured in a crash involving a van and a car on the Coast Road in St Andrews just after 9am.
Their injuries are not believed to be serious.
Sources said the 61-year-old driver of the car, a red Corvette, was unhurt despite extensive damage to the right side of the vehicle, because the car is left-side drive. He is an avid collector of classic cars and was driving his car for the VRT.
The van was also extensively damaged. It had been taking the tourists to Gozo.
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Tony Aquilina
Oct 5th 2012, 12:00
im sure it will polish out
Kenneth Debono
Oct 4th 2012, 21:37
We do not need CCTV, or better roads. Everyone should stop blaming everything else and look at the real cause of the accidents. 99% of the times it’s the driver himself. I spend a lot of time on the road every day, and the near misses I see every day keep increasing, especially since everyone seems determined not to miss a call or the need to SMS even while at the wheel of his / her car, van, truck etc...
We need to start respecting the roads but most of all we need to respect ourselves.
Kenneth Debono
Oct 4th 2012, 21:35
We do not need CCTV, or better roads. Everyone should stop blaming everything else and look at the real cause of the accidents. 99% of the times it’s the driver himself. I spend a lot of time on the road every day, and the near misses I see every day keep increasing, especially since everyone seems determined not to miss a call or the need to SMS even while at the wheel of his / her car, van, truck etc...
We need to start respecting the roads but most of all we need to learn how to respect ourselves and the one who care about us drivers.
joe aloisio
Oct 4th 2012, 20:25
This evening i was driving back home on the same stretch of road, and a day dreaming driving was driving all along the way at a mere 30km/ and bang in the middle of the road ....frustrating every driver that was in a hurry forcing them to go on the other side of the road to overtake!!!!! these people cause accidents.....
not to mention that the narrowing of the roads scheme embarked a few year ago has clearly failed...it is not slowing down fast drviers ...just frustrating them and making them go on the side of the road to pass..... we need a strong education campaign followed by strict law enforcment .
Aaron Schembri
Oct 4th 2012, 20:15
while I would not like to enter in the merit of who was to blame for this accident I would like to ask a few questions:
Have speed cameras reduced the amount of accidents on our roads?
why are advanced driving courses not available in Malta?
why are cheap chinese tyres allowed to be sold in Malta when these fail Eu and Tuv standards?
why do so many people still insist on using their mobile phones for calling or texting when driving, and why is the law not enforced?
Why do our roads (even new ones) not drain water like roads abroad do even after a night of heavy rainfall?
why do our roads not have enough camber in them ?
why is it then in traffic some people have to change lanes so often and do so without the use of indicators and if you don't give them way they start yelling at you?
why is it that after so many years we still don't have a racetrack in malta for people to vent off during the weekend ? not everyone affords to go to sicily!
E. Azzopardi
Oct 4th 2012, 17:14
No real supervision on our roads. We should have at least 10 traffic police officers going round this little piece of rock 24/7.
Our driving is horrendous and so are many of our roads. It does not mean that once we have some kilometres of roads in good order ( definitely not to EU standards) then we abandon the rest.
Jobs are crucial and most important but this island is not only about jobs and employment.
D Borg
Oct 4th 2012, 15:21
Oh what a surprise another accident caused by careless driving. Does anybody at any age know how to drive on this island? We're they giving free drivers permits on the back of a cereal box???
Smarten up people! Speed kills, mobile phones are distracting, aggressive driving is for the track, and brains are required to operate heavy machinery.... If you can't comprehend any of this stay home or car pool.
As for the lines on the road- its not rocket science... You should know when it's safe to overpass another car..if you don't..well my friend this will be the result.
Thomas Vella
Oct 4th 2012, 16:55
"aggressive driving is for the track"
our goverment never built us a track yet even after many years of petitions & signatures :)
Joseph Micallef
Oct 4th 2012, 14:57
Not a new road is needed but a middle of the road barrier that one sees in all motorways abroad.
D Borg
Oct 4th 2012, 14:52
Oh what a surprise another accident caused by careless driving. Does anybody at any age know how to drive on this island? We're they giving free drivers permits on the back of a cereal box???
Smarten up people! Speed kills, mobile phones are distracting, aggressive driving is for the track, and brains are required to operate heavy machinery.... If you can't comprehend any of this stay home or car pool.
As for the lines on the road- its not rocket science... You should know when it's safe to overpass another car..if you don't..well my friend this will be the result.
William Caligari
Oct 4th 2012, 14:15
Hafna kummenti,jasal ghada u kollox itir mar-rih, kif konna
nibqghu,il-Coast Road saret it-Triq ta' l-incidenti, wiehed kull ftit
granet.
Hemm bzonn ta' CCTV tul it-Triq kollha.Mhux biss imma Board specjali
li jara,il-mod u x'fatta qed isir sewqan f'din it-tul tat-Triq kollha.
Mhux biss imma dixxiplina wahda stretta!!!!!
Hadd ma jahseb li qed naghmel riferenza ghall dan il-kaz biss,
nghaddi min din it-Triq spiss, tara sewqan titwerrec,kultant anki
min tfajliet .
Il-lum nasal sabiex nghid"kemm saret ma tiswiex il-hajja tal-bniedem"
GL Calleja
Oct 4th 2012, 14:05
Without putting the blame on anybody, take this into account: A 61 year old man driving a Corvette on this stretch of road? Well I'm sure the tourists will have a story to tell when they go back home. Please stop talking about white lines and barriers and so on, and put the blame where it belongs and that is on the reckless drivers we have all over Malta and Gozo. The police have to catch these reckless drivers and the courts will have to follow accordingly. Stiffer fines and higher insurance coverage will be a good start. I know it is hard to face the truth but those are the true facts. Stop blaming the bad roads and concentrate on the driver?
Steve Mifsud
Oct 4th 2012, 13:59
Well, I'm going to call a spade a spade......speed clearly is the main factor here, not lines, not tarmac, not the bloody tooth fairy......look at the damage, you don't rip the side off a car driving a low speeds.
J Micallef
Oct 4th 2012, 16:22
Yep, that's basically it.
A. Sultana
Oct 5th 2012, 01:53
You might be surprised to know the kind of damage a collison at a mere speed of 40km/h can leave.
Gordon Cook
Oct 4th 2012, 13:32
Sorry but I feel I must disagree with this:
Colin Attard
Today, 11:44
I fully agree with R Mallia. Contrary to what most think, the causes of most accidents are slow drivers and ignorant drivers that drive on the outside lanes of our main thoroughfares. Traffic Police and Wardens seem to seldom take any action against any of these offences.
This behaviour causes frustration not accidents. Accidents are often caused by drivers breaking the law! speeding ,overtaking when not safe, crossing double white lines and using mobile phones while driving .etc.
Mr Denis Calleja
Oct 4th 2012, 13:30
Whatever happened in this accident and who ever is to blame, a factor showing from the photos without any doubt shows over speeding.
Elvin Muscat
Oct 4th 2012, 13:15
Hundreds of people are going over to Sicily every weekend with their sports cars, the only possible place where these people could vent their speed restlessness was in Hal far, but was taken over.
Loss of money for Malta and a great danger to the rest of us.
As usual another case of no planning or lack of organisational planning without consulting the proper people.
Bravado wins a medal.
James Dewar
Oct 4th 2012, 13:49
What exactly is your point? Blaming the crash on the lack of a race track in Malta??
B Attard
Oct 4th 2012, 14:19
Very well said. And unfortunately on Thursday evening during summer (sport cars) and Sunday mornings (motorbikes) when the weather is fine 'formula one' racing takes place at Hal-Far Road.
Would be better if the warden chases these high speed drivers instead of sticking tickets to a two minute parked car.
John Mallia
Oct 4th 2012, 15:02
X2... We should give more opportunity to develop business related to sport in this area
J jones
Oct 4th 2012, 13:04
Surprised not a white taxi was involved....has anyone ever seen them drive on last stretch of road towards the airport !
James Dewar
Oct 4th 2012, 18:33
We stopped using Taxi transfers from and to the airport some time ago because of dangerous driving and constant use of mobile phones resulting in far too many near misses!
Claude Farrugia
Oct 4th 2012, 12:52
This particular stretch of road needs to be declared a black spot area. Cars coming from Bahar ic-Caghaq tend to start an overtaking manoeuvre as soon as they reach the top of the hill. Cars coming from the Swieqi direction will be in the process of an overtaking manoeuvre because the dip and curve in the road near the side street to High Ridge is one of the places you can overtake after the Swieqi traffic lights. On both sides the lanes are just wide enough that in the process of the overtaking your outer wheels are frequently just ON the double white lines. The problem is that from both sides the road approaches a second slight uphill tract, which is actually a blind spot because there is a brief distance where you cannot see anyone coming from the other side of the road until it is too late, especially at high speed. Some drivers do not appreciate the blindness of this particular point with respect to oncoming overtaking traffic.
Mr Alexander Azzopardi
Oct 4th 2012, 12:39
Poor tourist :( we all know who should blame ! (If its not speed than their wouldnt be such exstensively damage done to both vechiles )
George Calleja
Oct 4th 2012, 12:36
Nidhaq meta naqra certi kummenti... min iwahhal fit-triq, min fil-linji,min ghax isuqu bil-mod....imma l-veru kawza hi l-irrisponsabbilta ta certi sewwieqa li jsuqu bl-addocc b'periklu ghalihom ...u ghal sewwieqa tajbin. Kulhadd mghaggel u hadd m'ghandu pacenzja. Saret anki moda li xi sewwieqa jsuqu bid-dawl ahmar...x'jimpurathom....la jafu li mhux se jehlu xejn.
R Brincat
Oct 4th 2012, 12:36
TM should hire some of you to make a good appetizing "froga" of the Maltese roads. Yes Hon. Austin Gatt take their advice and install barriers and central strips. Who are you to decide that everyone has to drive at a snail's pace? So if there's someone who is driving at 30km/h one has to drive all the way behind him? May I inform you that 80km/h is not super sonic speed and if I want to drive NORMALLY at 80km/h (which btw is legal) and I find someone driving slowly in front of me the only thing I can do is overtake so TM is right about widening the road to a 4 lane and only then a barrier is installed in the middle of the 4 lane road and who wants to drive slowly drives on the LEFT lane and who wants to go a bit faster on the RIGHT lane. And let's make this clear that the slow lane is the one on the LEFT i.e. L E F T, LEFT.
Peter Bonello
Oct 4th 2012, 14:38
AGREE WITH YOU 100%!!
Mandy Abela
Oct 4th 2012, 15:09
Erm, sorry, but overtaking is NOT the only thing you can do. You can certainly swear if you like!! You should only overtake if you can 100% see that no cars are coming from the other direction. Unfortunately people overtake regardless of whether they are on a blind corner/brow of a hill or not! And also, if I am not mistaken, the speed limit on the coast road is 60km/hr, not 80. At one point, near Bahar ic-Caghaq, there is a sign which says 70.
Also, yes, the slow lane is the left lane, but if there is only one lane, I don't see why people should go extra fast just to accommodate the maniac behind them. I am not saying that 30km/hr on the coast road is acceptable, but 50 to 60 is.
R Brincat
Oct 4th 2012, 16:04
Mandy I can only speak for myself and I can tell you that I am not George Jetson therefore my car does not fly so you have 2 options. 1 stay behind the slow driver and swear (Maltese people are very good at that), 2 overtake. So the best option would be to widen the road to a 4 lane leading to an application of new tarmac and also installing metal barriers in the middle of the 4 lane road. By doing this all excuses are eliminated and who wants to drive slowly can do so and who wants to drive at 70 km/h and slightly more can do so as well. And also let's be careful and not judge people here, I don't think that driving at 80 km/h along that road is maniac. Then still, you will have drivers that want to go at excessive speeds and overtake in blind corners putting others life's in danger but wreck-less driving is not something that has been discovered in 2012 so it was there and it will still be there it just has to be controlled and more police officers on the roads to assure drivers safety.
Am Camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 16:48
@ R Brincat - the inside lane is not the slow lane. Everyone should keep left regardless of how many lanes there are and only move into the outer lane when overtaking, or required to select appropriate lane, or turning right - they should be respecting the speed limit and NEVER be going 'fast' whatever that means.
R Brincat
Oct 4th 2012, 17:59
@ Am Camilleri - You are correct and 100% right but unfortunately 80% of the time the outer lane, which as you said is there to overtake and then switch back to the left lane is occupied by slow traffic or heavy vehicles. Every day I see buses, dump trucks, double deckers, trailers and all other kind of heavy vehicles and slow moving vehicles on the outer lane. Some roads could be better and improved but so does the driving, that's why more police officers should be deployed on our roads to maintain safety. I bet that if all licensed drivers go for a test tomorrow 60% won't pass the test and that is another thing that should be addressed. A license test and a medical should be done every 10/ 20 or 30 years to keep the drivers updated with the new laws maybe someday we will have high quality standard roads, good and responsible drivers and more safety on our roads leading to less accidents.
Anthony Curmi
Oct 4th 2012, 12:14
Has anyone ever seen police patrolling the coast road? Their presence would serve as a deterrent at least until funds are found by Transport Malta for installing guard rails to replace the double white lines. I have experienced numerous would-be accidents because of irresponsible drivers overtaking and crossing over into the path of incoming traffic.
Steven Smith
Oct 5th 2012, 13:17
white lines will NOT stop impatient drivers overtaking i mean since when do the maltese take any notice of road signs and road markings !
james macdonald
Oct 4th 2012, 11:52
before people make stories of the white lines, or dangerous driving etc... better to wait and find out what actually happened!!
Kevin Camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 11:46
The issue is very very simple, we will get rid of these accidents on the coast road ONLY when a central strip . guard rail, will be installed between the lanes. People will stop overtaking and entering into the opposite lane!
Chris Xuereb
Oct 4th 2012, 12:39
Exactly. It needs to be a dual carriage way ( for the slower moving traffic to drive on the inner lane) with a barrier down the middle, just like the new roads leading to the airport.
C Cassar
Oct 4th 2012, 13:42
The road will also need several speed cameras along it's entire stretch or better still, an "averege speed" system which have been used in many other EU countries for years.
Kevin Camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 13:43
Exactly Chris. Agree!
laura anderson
Oct 4th 2012, 11:43
Sad for the ppl involved but i am not surprised. I have already witnessed 2 accidents at the traffic lights at st.andrews this week! Almost another because cars couldnt wait to pass and pulled out onto oncoming traffic! Tge impatience of drivers in malta is shocking.
william cauchi
Oct 4th 2012, 11:34
As some are saying, speed kills, so if we all drove as we should, then who really needs white lines.
Useless drain of public funds Mhux hekk!! Tad-dahk, jekk mhux tal-biki.
bryan sullivan
Oct 4th 2012, 12:01
proprjament Sur Cauchi tal biki u mhux tad - dahk huwa is-sewqan tas-sewwieqa jigu mnejn jigu , li jitmelhu mbasta jaqbzu karozzi kif gie gie !
Franco Abela
Oct 4th 2012, 11:32
"As some said- double white lines might not have avoided this accident"
DREAM ON.... LINES DO NOT STOP ANYONE... BARRIERS DO!
HURRY HURRY AS THE SHIP IS LEAVING!
Daniel Vella
Oct 4th 2012, 11:31
It looks like there was a road-grip failure. There are no break marks on either side. Apart from the usual missing road-side barriers to help calculate the road limits which even in shabby neglected south Sicily roads have but not Malta.
Gordon Cook
Oct 4th 2012, 12:57
Drivers should drive according to conditions. Lack of "road grip" is only a feature if sudden braking is needed.
This usually happens when drivers are going too fast ! I noticed the van was a red taxi. Without forecasting the results of the enquiry, we all have seen many examples of so called professional drivers behaving like complete idiots on the road. They often think that the double white lines in the middle of the road is actually a taxi lane.
Kurt Mifsud
Oct 4th 2012, 15:49
Mr Cook - you need a good lecture about tarmac and tyre grips
Mandy Abela
Oct 4th 2012, 11:31
One of the main causes of traffic accidents is the mobile phone. Every day I see tons and tons of people chatting away while driving. If nobody stops them, they will continue to do so. Penalties should be harsher than just a fine.
laurent caruana
Oct 4th 2012, 11:15
The problem is not white-lines but the attitude of a lot of Wannabe-Schumachers!
Kevin Camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 11:44
please leave the Kaiser alone... if we had Schumachers on the road, we would be much safer!
Jeremy Gambin
Oct 4th 2012, 10:57
As some said- double white lines might not have avoided this accident - but they might avoid others- our road lines must be some of the worst in Europe- even when parking at night one must look carefully to see if there are no parking lines. Our priorities are wrong- a lot of money is spent on the centre strips & round abouts with nice expensive flowers, trees & lawns and then we have non existent lines as well as little road signs to help our tourists.
An. Caucchi
Oct 4th 2012, 11:50
can 2 lines avoid incident in a country where 99% or drivers does NOT know what is an indicator ?
Maltese drivers think that indicator are just Christmas light for the car ?
anthony sultana
Oct 4th 2012, 10:46
What it is happening in Malta it is because one thing,no capability, I have been complaining for a long time about the traffic lines in Gozo but all in vain.We need polititions that care about our daily maintenance, specially the roads.
bryan sullivan
Oct 4th 2012, 10:29
double white lines will never stop accidents happening. only safe driving shall. anyone driving the coast road can bear witness to countless dangerous overtaking manoeuvres irrespective of white lines or not !
Paul Preston
Oct 4th 2012, 11:17
Bryan .. Totally agree .. Well said !
Michael Sammut
Oct 4th 2012, 11:54
Couldn't have said it better!
Mark Vella
Oct 4th 2012, 12:50
Also count in the dangerous drivers that hog the lanes driving at 20km/h!!!!
Am Camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 16:42
@ Mark Vella - dangerous drivers don't drive at 20kph.
Alex Falzon
Oct 4th 2012, 10:25
I agree with the paint work but does not justify the accident
Hector Buttigieg
Oct 4th 2012, 10:23
In Malta we have so much dangerous driving. We need more presence of traffic police to fine erratic drivers.
paul camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 12:10
@ R Mallia
While i agree that more speed is needed on that road i disagree it to be 60KMP instead leave it at the national 80Kmp speed limit.
what that road needs is to be widened into a double lane duel carrdige way, which allows slower drivers drive in their comfort zone on the INSIDE LANE
william cauchi
Oct 4th 2012, 09:54
Look well everybody at those photos,and where are the double white lines separating both carriage ways. And this on one of Malta's most dangerous roads where accidents big or small happen every day.
Or is it that you have to try to guess where they are when you are driving?
Just the cost of one road accident such as this will pay for enough road paint to cover all Malta's roads. But for the Transport Authority road paint was never that important, was it.
Luke Duncan
Oct 4th 2012, 10:14
Actually if you look well at the 5th picture there is a double white line but as you have said, it needs to be repainted. One thing that we do need for sure is good quality of paint. The one that we use in malta is worse than water colors
H. Meilak
Oct 4th 2012, 10:17
There is one continuous white line which should be enough. Speed, my friend, speed is the cause of more than 90% of road accidnents, and not only in Malta.
Carmel Garcia
Oct 4th 2012, 10:26
When these lines used to be done by the Dept of Works they were better done and served for more period of time. I remember doing these lines manually with good paint and we used to throw white sand that in sunlight or car lights it used to shine so that one could see the lines and other marks. Today they use spray that after a week or so it will vanish.
R Mallia
Oct 4th 2012, 10:38
Speed does not kill in this road. Slow drivers kill people in these roads. It's a long bendy road and driving behind a 40kmph Sunday driver just makes that choice of overtaking easier for some people. We need a speed limit of 60 in that road and nothing less. Driving in less speed (unless there is traffic of course)or excessive speed will result in a fine.
Colin Attard
Oct 4th 2012, 11:44
I fully agree with R Mallia. Contrary to what most think, the causes of most accidents are slow drivers and ignorant drivers that drive on the outside lanes of our main thoroughfares. Traffic Police and Wardens seem to seldom take any action against any of these offences.
C Muscat
Oct 4th 2012, 11:48
@Mallia
SPEED KILLS. If you are behind a slow moving vehicle (including trucks etc) just put on the radio and keep driving behind. You do not have to overtake; Sunday driving is very comfortable if you adapt and our roads are only for Sunday driving everyday mate youonly just have to relax and arrive early just the same....
Joseph Vassallo, (Bugibba)
Oct 4th 2012, 11:53
White lines need frequent repainting because idiots drive over them and on them as though they aren't there. Quite apart from the cheap materials used instead of longlife road coatings.
melvin mifsud
Oct 4th 2012, 11:58
Come on carmel hpe ur joking whn saying after a week lines vanish and even with lines accidnts cntinue to happen due to wreckless drivers!
R Mallia
Oct 4th 2012, 12:24
C Muscat
Speed kills but not in this road. Slow and relaxed drives such as you cause accidents or hold up traffic. If you have a speed limit or speed camera of 60kmph don't drive at 40kmph as you are slowing traffic and increasing pollution for nothing. 60 isn't that much and it isn't slow so it's not dangerous. Above it or lower is. I just can't stand driving behind sunday drivers with their arm dangling out the window.
Am Camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 16:40
@ R Mallia - actually speed has killed several people on this road including a cyclist. Can you point us to any evidence that shows that slow speeds kill? 60 kph would be a MAXIMUM speed in the safest condition and not the target speed to be reached at any cost. Therefore 40 kph (67%of max) sounds like a reasonable average to drive. If you can't stand meeting vehicles travelling at 40 on a 60 max road - are you sure you should be driving at all?
Am Camilleri
Oct 4th 2012, 17:01
@ Colin Attard - why do you say "contrary to what most think . . . "? Where is the evidence to suggest your assertion is correct?
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