Government considering autumn trapping derogation for golden plover and song thrush - FKNK

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 10:39

imma issa l gojjini wara 4 snin saru tal post...hraxu u mhux la kemm jamel qelba...it tahrik ul ajat drawh

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 10:48

nobody believes that hunting will be permitted all year round...

but then again nobody believes that we are getting the maximum allowable as per the EU birds directive.

and everybody (including hunters) knows that the PL will give hunters the max allowable under EU legislation.

what makes me laugh is that PN supporters believe that all hunters are laburisti...just mentioing my family & nephews, uncles , cousins...well PN lost 37 tesserati...(mine & my dad's, my 9 uncles, 13 cousins, 6 cousins children, 7 nephews)...plus the rest of the family will amount to around 100 votes...plus we use to rally in a lot of votes from disgrantled PN supporters especially hunters...just one family may effect a minimum of 300-350 votes

u ma tarawx! u ma tarawx! li ser nergaw nivutaw lil min sawatna...issa jivutaw tal birdlife ul bella compania

Emanuel Muscat

Sep 21st 2012, 11:05

Nassumi li 98% hija naqra vojta siehbi!!

Brian Grech

Sep 21st 2012, 15:52

Mr Xerri intom il-kaccturi ma tikbru qatt elezzjoni wara elezzjoni tirrikattaw!! Nassigurak li jekk hemm numru kbir ta kaccaturi u l-familjari taghhom li huma ta rikatt ghal votida daqstant iehor u ferm aktar hemm ambjentalisti.Politicians KEEP THAT IN MIND!!!!

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 19:27

Mr Grech,

hunters are not bluff...infact last election I personally collected and posted the votes to PN Headquarters...on the otherhand the environemntalists have never acted likewise or elected an MP from alternativa demokratika...and neither have they elected an MEP from PN or AD who had anti hunting candidates.

Hunters have tried for years to hold talks with the govt...hunters have been reasonable by demanding only what is inline with EU legislation...but if the govt does not listen...then its the recieving end who is at fault and not the voter...and a chance was given as duing the last election we posted the votes...govt did not listen...so this time round vote PL...simple

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 11:37

but only hunter pose a credible threat...

just ask yourself...what success has the PN had with its self declared anti hunting MEPS...remember edward demicoli and alan deidun?

what success has alternative democratica ever had?

people vote according to priorities...hunters have hunting as top priority...antis have the love of birds as mid or bottom priority since they consider other issues as top priority.

Steve Zammit

Sep 21st 2012, 21:56

Halli minnek Johny I put birds and environemnt as top priority...so simple I don't vote PL

Johnny Xerri

Sep 22nd 2012, 19:19

Just to lighten up the argument...I wouldn't go that far...it would be rather an eyesore to see the likes of the PM & AUgostino Pio in a mini and leather boots...all spiced up!!!!

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 11:32

Mr Midler...the question being...who uses his vote on this issue...the hunter or the anti...

if antis use their vote on this issue...then why did alternativa democratica always tally no more than 2 pence of votes...

the governemnt should not have middled with anything that would attract it more losses than gains.

Johnny Xerri

Sep 20th 2012, 20:35

No Mr Pace, the EU is not powerless...but simply unconcerned unless the Birds Directive is not complied with.

In otherwords....unless the seasons violate the EU legislation you have to live with them

Johnny Xerri

Sep 20th 2012, 20:33

so instead of the usual 2 pence of votes they will have 2.5 pence this time round!!!

M. Cardona

Sep 20th 2012, 21:53

As if you had ever considered otherwise!

J Vella

Sep 20th 2012, 22:13

and with your votes they will bring two quotas

M. Cardona

Sep 21st 2012, 07:38

D Borg, as if you ever considered otherwise!

Mr l Azzopardi

Sep 21st 2012, 10:12

not only yours david

Darren Micallef

Sep 20th 2012, 21:33

Riddle of the year. Hear hear people, hunters are the people that love nature. That is why they shoot them, illegally or not!

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 11:28

hunting all year round...???

and didn't pn lose it with hunting as usual in 1996?
and didn't they win it with hunting open in 2003

PN will lose the elcetion because they applease the wrong sector...because of corruption (which proven or not...only fools don't acknowledge), because of the €500 / week salary increase,...plus plus plus

when seasons are banned the govt looses votes...when seasons are opened the govt does not loose votes...hunters do vote with hunting as a top priority....antis do not...proof is that if they did Alternative Democratica would tally more than 2 pence worth of votes

Charles Grixti

Sep 20th 2012, 21:01

I agree both the birds and their habitat are and have been destroyed. That does not excues one evil over another though.

Pippo De Marco

Sep 20th 2012, 21:41

Its incorrect of you to state that 'nobody bats an eyelid when virgin land is transformed into a concrete jungle..' I, for one, very much object to the rape of this contry's virgin land and the loss of our architectural heritage and national identity. In fact, I am so sickened by this government's track record of assisting developers in the ruination of anything 'Maltese' that after an adult lifetime of voting PN they can kiss my whip. - And don't get me stated on Gonzi and his desecration of Valletta, or I won't stop... !

Suffice to say, that unlike the principled fellows of the FKNK I would not sit at the same table as the current Prime Minister. And when one is his would-be clique members knocks on my door ahead of the next election they will get it with both barrels (metaphorically speaking, of course).

As for trapping song birds or, worse still shooting them, I really don't get it. - Just because other nations allow such primative behaviour, doesn't mean that we have to follow them into the cultural abyss. Apart from upsetting a minority, there is no logical reason why Malta cannot unilaterally lead the way to enlightenment and confiscate all privately owned firearms. - Let's put an end to the Police/ALE having to play hide and seek with the so-called 'Poachers' and the 'We don't know who they are' cherade with the supposed 'law-abiding hunters'.

And if you think that sounds undemocratic, then that's another thing that the FKNK could have spoken with Gonzi about ... He wrote the book on ignoring democracy and doing his own thing, regardless of what the people say or want.

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 11:09

Pippo De Marco,

there is one logic reason why firearms cannot be confiscated...I for one would not allow the confiscation unless I have committed a crime with my firearms...if you believe that with a strick of a pen firearms can be confiscated...rest assured that the first 3 notices I would affix to my house would be.

'Only fools thread through paths that angles fear'

'May God have mercy upon these fools, because I won't.'

and

'Next'

Pippo De Marco

Sep 20th 2012, 21:42

Give him enough rope, Charles.

Karl Consiglio

Sep 20th 2012, 19:32

Agreed, its so barbaric.

A.f Ellul

Sep 20th 2012, 19:58

Poor birds that are in a small cages for a few days,So what did you say about the killing of the birds that are destroyed for ever.You didn't know what are you saying,It is better to stop hunting and leaving the trapping because they let the bird live but hunters kill the birds.which one of these has mercy?

leon camilleri

Sep 20th 2012, 23:10

these birds live freely in the wild ... but only a few used to be caught by trappers . these trappers used to take care of these birds and keep them in the best condition they can . keeping them in good condition , in aviaries results in the breeding of these birds in captivity . a bird would not breed in captivity if it is not kept in a good condition . when they are put in these small cages called ' gabjetti ; they are kept in good condition as well and a sign that the bird is happy and is in good condition is that the bird sings fluently all the time . when these birds are caught there life is doubled cause if in the wild a linnet lives for 2 or three years , in captivity it will live for 5 or more . in captivity the bird does not has to find problems to find food and water cause they are gven to him daily and they are not in fear that they can be caught by bigger birds of pray or snakes . sure that this bird is so poor ?

Mr C Camilleri

Sep 20th 2012, 20:13

..... and a free one is better than a trapped one ! so please cut the silly talk. this is all about gaining votes.

Jay Oatmon

Sep 20th 2012, 21:20

Very true - and the reason that the dictators stayed in power so long (Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria etc) is because the ordinary people did not speak out loudly enough to be heard, and the dictators used 'patriotism' to stay in power.

Johnny Xerri

Sep 21st 2012, 10:53

as long as trapping is regulated as per the birds directive no fines will be faced by malta.

if such fines are impossed no probs...i publically declare that i will pay these out of my own pocket...the only string attched will be that 1st my vote is invoiced to an equivalent amount against all those that dished out false info to hunters and trappers...once that cheque clears I will pay the fine.

deal or no deal

M. Cardona

Sep 20th 2012, 20:04

Mr Oatman, which part of trapping as opposed to hunting didn't you understand? OOPs sorry didn't realise it was you again Mr Oatman.

Anthony A. Mifsud

Sep 20th 2012, 20:30

and you?
How could you possibly.cant you let lose for once?Ninu

DUNCAN ISHMAEL

Sep 20th 2012, 20:28

mhux ha jirnexxilu jinhabb imma ta ax lilna l kaccaturi ilu jamlilna hsara u weghdiet fil vojt!!!! tghid mhux ha jdawwarni b daqsekk!!!!