Sant: Mintoff was monumental figure
Dom Mintoff listens as then Prime Minister Alfred Sant addresses the House.
Dom Mintoff has been described as a 'monumental figure' by Alfred Sant, whose 22-month government collapsed when il-perit broke ranks and voted against it.
In comments following the passing away of Mr Mintoff, Dr Sant made no references to his falling out with Mr Mintoff in 1998 but said that Mr Mintoff was a monumental figure on the Maltese political scene.
As head of government, he had worked on the creation of a welfare state in the best interests of Maltese workers, he recalled.
At the same time, as well as earlier, he courageously battled for true independence.
"Today we should remember the good that Dom Mintoff brought about - with work which had a substantial impact on Malta's political and social history.
At the time, he said, Mr Mintoff's activities were hindered by people who today claimed to share the political values which inspired him. As if they could be believed.
Dr Sant said there could be no better tribute to Mr Mintoff than to say that the values which Mr Mintoff worked for- especially social solidarity and national freedom - should remain the focus of Maltese political activity.
And it was only the Labour Party which could guarantee them.
Dr Sant said he wanted to express his profound condolences to the Mintoff family for their sad loss.
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Hossam Helwani
Aug 22nd 2012, 13:13
@ eddy privitera
I cannot but admire your hysteric fanatacism that even as you write you tend to agree with me without even realising that you are doing so . You declared that Alfred Sant is a realist, then you are agreeing with me 100% on what I said about Alfred Sant and Mintoff. I repeat he called him a monument without explaining to us what type of monument. " mill frott taghhom jintaghrfu" hares ftit madwarek u tara ftit. Kellek bzonn l affarijiet kienu bil maqlub. Mur arak titkellem fuq mintoff kif titkellem int fuq il Prim Ministru b dak il mod disprecattiv. Mur arak fi zmien mintoff tuza il media biex tikkritikah! mhux hekk. Inthom qed tonoraw bully u tirann li ghamel il Malta haven u port ta grieden tiranni bhal gaddaffi caucescu u ohrajn. Iggilidna mad dinja civili u ghamilna hbieb ma pajjizi ta fama kriminali. Nispera li ma nergghux naraw l euphoria li rajna in north korea meta miet il mexxej taghom ilu ftit. Dawk dahhku id dinja bijhom bit teatrin li ghamlu.
Charles Attard
Aug 22nd 2012, 10:48
Whether we always agreed with his Political aggressiveness, I for one have been critical of Mintoff at times, MINTOFF is the Greatest PM Malta has ever had, and I doubt very much if Malta will ever see the likes Him ever again!!!! Malta being a small nation of a lot less than half a million, even smaller than the Royal National Park in Sydney. Mintoff took the Imperialist Super Powers of Great Britain and NATO .. HEAD ON and got what he wanted for our Country!! He was smart cunning and outfoxed these Imperialist Super Powers in only the way Mintoff knew how!!
Joseph Micallef
Aug 21st 2012, 23:32
What a great gentleman. This is a great, GREAT GENTLEMAN whom as time goes by, proves himself even more. Well done Dr. Sant. I can't find enough words to praise your reaction. Dr. Sant will be remembered in the books of history for his honest and distinct premiership.
Charles Sammut
Aug 21st 2012, 15:46
Mintoff did lots of good for the island in the sun at the beginning of his Political tenure...BUT..he lost all credibility when he let his thugs run rampant and turn the island into a state of anarchy and bullying!
..and the beat goes on...and the beat goes on....
GL Calleja
Aug 21st 2012, 16:35
Mr Sammut you said a mouthful.
Peter Simpson
Aug 21st 2012, 19:33
@C. Sammut
.How come foreign news papers do not mentionwhat you are alluding too in their obituary of Dom Mintoff; they don't even mention that Mintoff stole any elections, simply because he was on the right side of law..that is why the PN never took the MLP to court. On the other hand, when the Democrats took the Republicans to the supreme Court, the Republicans won the case, even though they got a minority vote: they were on the right side of the law....and the Democrats did not start a fracas like the PN did in 1981 when Mintoff managed to bring a result that the same nationalists worked hard to achieve in 1971!
! Read the obituary of the New York Times and the BBC to get an unbiased and historically correct picture of who Dom Mintoff was...they are hardly socialist newspapers: yet they saw the fiery Dom as the father of this little nation:this is the truth, the whole historical truth, and not what in-Nazjon scribbles out every morning!
j brincat
Aug 21st 2012, 14:59
@Joseph Grech Attard
"Sant resisted Mintoff and he did not want to govern with Mintoff all the time at his back, as was Mintoff's character. But, at least, he was gentlemen enough to face this, rather than stabbing him in the back"
Yeah but in the same vein you have to give credit to the gentleman of all times in the sense that he took stock of the situation and put the Cottonera Project to the vote - meaning that he was NOT stuck to the seat of power!
Look at the antics going on today!
(jb)
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 14:57
Dr Sant, have you withdrawn your unjustified and highly insulting term of "traitor" you were so quick to label Mintoff with during the 1998 meeting in Birgu?
It's useless eulogizing the Labour Party's unique Leader if you have still not done so!
Alfred A. Falzon
Joseph Grech Attard
Aug 21st 2012, 14:24
Sant resisted Mintoff and he did not want to govern with Mintoff all the time at his back, as was Mintoff's character. But, at least, he was gentlemen enough to face this, rather than stabbing him in the back.
j brincat
Aug 21st 2012, 14:17
@Lucienne Spiteri
"too late Dr. Sant!"
And who are you to say so?
What have you to say about those who publicly wanted him crucified (Salbuh! Salbuh!)?
(jb)
victor bonello
Aug 21st 2012, 14:11
It is amazing in what was once a catholic country, how people can stoop so low as to carry grudges and pure hatred to a dead man they never knew personally by simply being indoctrinated by some disgruntled hate filled loser...
GL Calleja
Aug 21st 2012, 15:53
Mr Bonello as I mentioned earlier. If a person is good in life then he is good after life and if he is bad in life then he is bad after life. Being dead does not change anything. Only fools believe that it does. Nobody has come back to tell us otherwise, get real. Believe what you want, but I believe that dead is dead and it does not change the good or bad deeds you performed when living, contrary to what anybody else tells you. The phrase, don't speak ill of the dead does not mean much if you spoke ill of the living.
Ruth Muscat
Aug 21st 2012, 13:49
well Mintoff was a great statesman. He was revolutionary, determined, a born fighter. He was not all roses though, and he always wanted his way even when it meant bringing down the Labour government which hurt. But his charisma is unique. Rest in peace dear Mintoff. We shall never forget you .
Lucienne Spiteri
Aug 21st 2012, 13:41
too late Dr. Sant!
m. borg (slm)
Aug 21st 2012, 13:47
Your point is?
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 14:42
@ m. borg (slm)
A valid point I happen to share with Ms Lucienne Spiteri!
We hate double talk!
Alfred A. Falzon
carmel muscat
Aug 21st 2012, 13:35
alfred sant huwa bniedem ta valuri kbar
j brincat
Aug 21st 2012, 13:53
No doubt about that!
One of a kind!
(jb)
joyce aquilina
Aug 21st 2012, 13:18
a little to late now,
once we were at a `Front Maltin Inqumu` meeting in zurrieq and all Mintoff ever wanted was for Sant to Appologise..
Dr Sant you`ve hurt us Mintoffiani real bad
m. borg (slm)
Aug 21st 2012, 13:47
No joyce it was not Dr Sant who hurt il-laburisti, get your facts right, labour should have governed Malta since 1996 but I am sure you know the story which now ihas ended.
Steve M. Engerer
Aug 21st 2012, 13:16
I propose a monument in remembrance of Mintoff!!
It should be situated infront of the University so each student remembers the 20 points & parrinu, to be able study at the University!!!
I have absolutely no good memories of the Mintoff days!!
As for his politics go to hell!!
As for his soul may he Rest In Peace...
m. borg (slm)
Aug 21st 2012, 13:16
One cannot deny the fact that Mintoff was a great statesman , a great leader and the best PM Malta ever had but as it happens with great men when they make a mistake, it is also on a grand scale and that is what happened in 1998 which proves that politicians are human after all and not gods.
On the other hand if anybody should have held a grudge and would have spoken ill of Mr Mintoff it should have been Dr Sant, but no, sense and realism won the day and this only goes to show how well bonded and fused the PL is today.
Labour might be made up of hot heads who act compulsively but there is no ill meant behind stupid acts and ill feelings soon dissolve and friendships restored .
Same can't be said of others.
Justin Borg Saywell
Aug 21st 2012, 13:08
The New York Times online describes Mintoff as "a vociferous gadfly backbencher." Meaning of gadfly - a person who persistently annoys or provokes others with criticism, schemes, ideas, demands, requests, etc.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/world/europe/dom-mintoff-proponent-of-maltese-independence-dies-at-96.html?pagewanted=all
Ronald Cauchi
Aug 21st 2012, 14:39
Either you cant read and understand a long newspaper article or youre actually out to deceive. The reference to a gadfly backbencher was at the end of a long laudatory article when it came to Mintoff's last days in parliament and his falling out with Prime Miister Sant. The rest of the article describes Mintoff's many achievements and his forceful influence in ridding this island of clerical and colonial influences. Like all great men his failings were great as well unlike the mediocre leaders we have today who are as weak in their failings as they are in their successes.
Vincent Borg
Aug 21st 2012, 12:57
Alfred Sant = A born gentleman
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 14:40
@ Vincent Borg
Sant, the only short-lived Prime Minister in whose time students (including those hailing from low-income families) were being told to incur loans from banks to be able to pursue their studies at University level!!
A gentleman indeed!!
Alfred A.lzon
Saviour Cachia
Aug 21st 2012, 12:56
@Victor Bonello....and we are taxed on the 900 euros monthly pension, despite our ailments and need to buy medicines not offered by the Government. Why does not the Gonzi PN social government decide once and for all that all those that receive not more than 900 euros pension monthy, should be tax free? That will be total justice, after all we do not have deductions on medicine, utility bills, the only privilege we have is that we just pay Arriva 50cents and go where ever we like and the Gozo ferry free. But how much harder is the life of a pensioner today.
Ms Xixi Caruana
Aug 21st 2012, 13:54
The Maltese are spoilt rotten, and yet ..... !!! It all boils down to ignorance and greed. You must go live in some foreign country for a brief period of time only... long enough to realize how damn lucky you are!!!! STOP COMPLAINING!!!!!!
m. borg (slm)
Aug 21st 2012, 12:53
Dr Sant the gentleman he always was, demonized by miscreants who could not find a single shred of misdeeds to charge him with.
He buried the hatchet though he was tactlessly denied his premiership in 1996-1988 and realised that life goes on, unlike the time a certain other politician told an adversary (in the same party) "Int ma tarax wicc Alla" after he felt betrayed by same colleague.
Gentlemen are recognised by their deeds and actions and not by their hollow words.
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 14:30
@ m borg (slm)
Dr Sant wanted to bequeath Fort Saint Angelo to the Order of Malta, lease for 99 years the Cottonera Waterfront to an American firm behind the people's back, but Mintoff nipped his so-called initiatives in the bud.
For that the Labour Party's unique and beloved Leader was labelled a "traitor"!
Shame on Sant!!
Alfred A. Falzon
John Azzopoardi
Aug 21st 2012, 12:20
SAnt always tended to be a gentlement and at the end that is what he is. I totally believe that today, he is respected by both PN and PL. He is calm and those are the leadership qualities in a good leader.
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 12:35
@ John Azzopardi
Has he withdrawn his reference to "traitor" addressed to Mintoff during the Birgu meeting in 1998?!
That would make him a gentleman!
Otherwise it's just smoke...! in the eyes!!
Alfred A. Falzon
m. borg (slm)
Aug 21st 2012, 13:18
Mr Falzon your stupid tactic as order from tal-Pieta to try and put a wedge between laborites is useless and surely a sign of weakness.
Just keep hoping that the thrashing you guys are going to get would be as minimal as possible. Just HOPE.
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 14:37
@ m. borg (slm)
Who is stupid?
You'd better mind your language and enquire who I happen to be!!
Stupid are those who jump to conclusions, make sweeping statements and end up swallowing their words for lack of grey matter!!
By the way, I just wanted to remind people of your ilk that gentlemen politicians do not send students borrow loans from banks to be able to further their studies at University level!!
That's far from what Mintoff's Labour Party had in mind before Sant hijacked the Party!
Alfred A. Falzon
Michael Rizzo
Aug 21st 2012, 12:15
Gentlemen, one thing is for sure.. The man put Malta on the map. He also left some kind of mark on a whole generation. Good and bad.
I lived my childhood in the Cottonera and must say not all memories were nice during his "reign". His kind of rule did not always go down well with the people, sometimes with good reason too. But today he is gone, and we must give him credit where it is due. Most importantly let's leave his family to mourne in peace their loved one. Condolences to his family
Toni Cardona
Aug 21st 2012, 12:03
Pulitzer Prize winner Robert Dennis McFadden wrote an article in The New York Times. It's certainly worth a read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/world/europe/dom-mintoff-proponent-of-maltese-independence-dies-at-96.html?_r=1&ref=europe
John Briffa
Aug 21st 2012, 12:57
Thanks, well written.
In my mind Mintoff was the inspirational monumental figure of what Malta is today.
Rest in peace Dom.
c scudi
Aug 21st 2012, 11:48
Mintoff was a man of his time..A time when Malta needed a strong leader to propell it from hundreds of years of colonialization into a self sufficient nation state.He had to battle against bankruptcy,the omnipotance of the church,bad health care,unemployment and on and on...
So,to this great man,whatever his politics were..we salute you..
Ben Agius
Aug 21st 2012, 12:20
very well said
Ms.D. Galea
Aug 21st 2012, 11:35
I guess that this is official re-habilitation from ''TRADITUUUUUR !''into a ''MONUMENTAL FIGURE'' .
M Farrugia
Aug 21st 2012, 12:25
well said Ms. Galea. But this is politics. Politicians change their minds overnigth
Doreen Attard
Aug 21st 2012, 12:42
Please don't be pathetic Ms D Galea and M Farrugia ! Dr Sant, although a politician as you say M Farrugia, but he is also a gentleman as always. Now that Dom can't answer he won't get any kicks below the belt from gentlemen and that is what Dr Sant did. Capisce Ms D Galea and M Farrugia.
m. borg (slm)
Aug 21st 2012, 12:58
Mr Galea there men who keep a grudge and you can well look at the gonzipn/PN ask ex MP like the Borg Oliviers (Paul the S exempt), Mario Felice andCachia Zammit.
Then there are those who are what in maltese we call "nar tat-tiben" no bad blood for years on end and that is what MLP/PL is all about.
WE forgive and forget in house fighting.
Can you say the same of gonzipn TODAY.
victor bonello
Aug 21st 2012, 11:27
To day Malta has become an orphan. Malta has lost her Father, the only true politician that had the good of Malta and the Maltese people at heart. He was our greatest Statesman, and he was the one to inspire pride in the Maltese people and respect to Malta as a Nation.
Age and time did not spare him, and as he grew older and weaker the " rebels" within the party inflicted great harm to what he was doing.
Yet he will be remembered and should be remembered as the man that freed Malta and upgraded the Maltese people. God rest his soul.
Hossam Helwani
Aug 21st 2012, 10:56
This is what I find absurd!!! we go to cospicua to call him a traitor, then we call him a monumental figure, well I think I will agree with Dr Sant as long as he will tell me what kind of monument he is referring to. I think I might imagine what he is referring to, but since the majority of Maltese have no idea how to read between the lines , let them think that sant is actually praising him. I believe he is not. Dr Sant is clever and if he had to be cornered to define his monumental phrase he would not surprise me at all.
John Zammit
Aug 21st 2012, 11:19
For you information he was the Man that had ERADICATED the poverty from our shores.he industrialized Malta,set up the welfare state,educated the nation and introduced free Medical care for all and brought dignity to the Nation. True the work started before when labour was in power in 1947/49 and in the 20s when labour was in compact with sir Gerald Strickland
Eddy Privitera
Aug 21st 2012, 12:51
Hossam Helwani: Dr. Sant is not only clever but also a realist. He knows, as all Maltese of goodwill know, that despite Mintoff's defects, the good he did for the country outweighs by far the bad decisions. What he did is still being enjoyed by ALL the people ,irrespective of their political affiliations: Including YOU too !!!!
aldo Attard
Aug 21st 2012, 12:55
There is an English saying which states" the truth you say with bad intent, is worst than the worst lie you can ever invent" and here you are not even saying the truth but you are intentional showering doubts for your own bad intentions!!
Hossam Helwani
Aug 21st 2012, 14:17
@ john zammit
he eradicated poverty from the street and made the whole nation international beggar !
jekk hemm bzonn anke ghand ix xitan immorru! ( he knew that he was dealing with the devil and he had no shame about it )
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 15:08
@ Eddy Privitera
Dr Sant betrayed the Party's principles and Mintoff nipped his schemes in the bud!!
His blunders during his 20 or so months of misrule speak volumes!
Do you want a debate on this?!
We are not afraid of double talk!!
Alfred A. Falzon
Ken Mercieca
Aug 21st 2012, 10:31
i don't sympathise (politically) with il Perit however, i do admit that he managed to bring back Malta to its feet after what the Maltese had been through the war and for that he will remain an icon in Maltese history - a political genius at the time. The Maltese economy still encompasses to this very date the structure in public funding and social welfare, to say the least. However, one must not forget that by doing so, he took away freedom of expression from people, from both parties. With regards to Alfred Sant, well to say he is a ragel fuq l irgiel, it's a tad too much. RIP Perit...
J. Camilleri
Aug 21st 2012, 10:27
Alfred sant jekk ma kellu xejn kien u ghadu bniedem umli. Kien u ghadu jobghod l ingustizji u jhobb it transparenza.
A. Schembri
Aug 21st 2012, 11:04
u il paci fil pajjiz dan urieh fis sentejn li kien fil gvern, kompla fejn kellu jhalli fenech adami li bir rispett kollhu lejh ukoll gab il paci fil pajjiz
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Aug 21st 2012, 10:26
Sant writes: "At the time, he said, Mr Mintoff's activities were hindered by people who today claimed to share the political values which inspired him. As if they could be believed." How true! Perhaps truer is the observation that those who opposed Mintoff's values now claim those very values to be their own!! Malta will see the state funeral the like of which the country has not been seen before and will probably not see again for a very long time.
Julian Borg
Aug 21st 2012, 10:25
Social benefits have been improved consistently for 25 years and Sant has the gall to say that only Labour can guarantee them? The same man that changed stipends to loans when elected? What a cheek!
Anthony Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 10:30
WELL SAID MATE.
Robert Agius
Aug 21st 2012, 10:54
Improved? how exactly? oh! he changed the stipends and it ruined your life? I'm so sorry!
Julian Borg
Aug 21st 2012, 11:09
@Robert Agius
If you believe that Social Security benefits are at 1987 levels you must be living in cuckoo land!
victor bonello
Aug 21st 2012, 11:35
@ Julian Borg; the same thing has been done by the PN to those studying as Vets. I personally think it is only fair that stipends be considered as loans. Why should people be paid to better their life. In my days we worked to keep ourselves at University. As for Social benefits being improved consistently for 25 years I beg o differ. We are already to day having problems with pensions. Whilst the judiciary and parliamentarians take 2/3 of what they make -and to day they have good salaries- us common mortals, no matter how much tax and national insurance we pay, get a max of euro900 per month..if we are lucky and will get it!!!
Alfred Vassallo
Aug 21st 2012, 11:36
What???? I only mention one thing. The yearly bonus which Mintoff created and in 25 YEARS of pn administration they NEVER rounded up to 139.8 Euros(that would have been an increase of 2 malta pounds).
They left it as it is 135.14 E.
Freddie Micallef
Aug 21st 2012, 12:00
semmit tarzna julian semmi il kaccaturi julian semmi lil airmalt julian semmi dawk il hwejjeg li gonzipn wieghed mod u ghamel il kontra.e bilhaqq ghax ma semmejtx i children allowances,,il penzjoni ta 2/3,,il housing estate,,lartijiet li ta b'xejn,,il veru d disgustajtni.fatkkar fil passat mhux biss il hazin imma il hafna tajjeb li sar u b'hekk tkun veru ragel.
Ben Agius
Aug 21st 2012, 12:24
there is no denying that it was mintoff that created the maltese social security system. It was BO that brought independence and it was Mintoff that made malta a republic. They are all good things and all Maltese should celebrate them. It was successive governments of both persuasions that built on these achievements and both have also made mistakes!! When are the maltese going to get on with it rather than always argue the small points - both sides do it from time to time. Those that keep fanning it should get a life or argue about statues or bands or something!!!
Eddy Privitera
Aug 21st 2012, 12:56
Julian Borg: Ara qattx issib liml-PN kien wieghed li se jdahhal il-pensjoni ghall-kullhadd u -servizzi socjali kollha QABEL DAWN DAHHALHOM mINTOFF !
U SPJEGA GHALIEX IL-PN DEJJEM IVVOTA KONTRA KULL LIGI SOCJALI LI DAHHAL MINTOFF !!!!!!!!!!!
Julian Borg
Aug 21st 2012, 13:51
Looks like all those commenting here totally missed the point I was making. You can continue to use replies to start new arguments but its not the point.
As for Eddy Privitera - he is always off point and simply spouts MLP propaganda unrelated to the arguments being made. And please - one exclamation mark is normally one too many.
Hossam Helwani
Aug 21st 2012, 14:55
well said julian
how true
Joseph Galea
Aug 21st 2012, 10:10
Dr Sant jibqa ragel fuq l-irgiel!
Ian Mamo
Aug 21st 2012, 10:21
Technically, NOT!
Anthony Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 10:30
TAJBA UKOLL DIN, MELA MIN KIEN IT TRADITUR ???
fred sammut
Aug 21st 2012, 12:57
@ anthony falzon hobbu obghodu kritikah etc, imma x hin Dr.Sant sab li ma jistax imexxi ma qadtx jaghmel bhal ma ghamel Dr Gonzi, tlielaq wahdu, vaganzi tal Ghid qatt ma rajna bhalhom,glied, laqat minn taht etc imma rega mar ghand il poplu.....
Alfred Vassallo
Aug 21st 2012, 16:21
''Dr Sant jibqa ragel fuq l-irgiel!''
And how, proven beyond any shadow of doubt.
j brincat
Aug 21st 2012, 10:09
"Today we should remember the good that Dom Mintoff brought about - with work which had a substantial impact on Malta's political and social history"
Dr Sant will forever remain a true gentleman!
RIP DOM - you will be remembered for years to come as you have left an indelible mark on Malta which you have single handed transformed into a kind welfare state!
(jb)
Mary Rose Grech
Aug 21st 2012, 10:01
Dr Sant a real gentleman
fred sammut
Aug 21st 2012, 10:11
agree 100%
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 15:04
@ Mary Rose Grech
Disagree 100%!
Alfred Vassallo
Aug 21st 2012, 16:19
Alfred Falzon
Who gives a toss what you agree or disagrees.
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 17:42
@ Alfred Vassallo
And who are you to make such a comment?!
Your Sant was rejected by the people after 20 months or so of blunders, the latest being his u-turn in eulogizing Mintoff after calling him a "traitor"!!
Alfred A. Falzon
Alfred Vassallo
Aug 21st 2012, 19:24
@Alfred Falzon
'And who are you to make such a comment?!'
Who am I? I am the one who can comment as much as you.
Alfred Vassallo
Aug 21st 2012, 19:28
@Alfred Falzon
'And who are you to make such a comment?!'
Who am I? I am the one who can comment as much as you. That's who am I
And I say it again Sant was a real gentleman no matter what you or somebody else says.
Alfred Falzon
Aug 21st 2012, 22:10
@ Alfred Vassallo
So you agree with Sant that Mintoff was a "traitor"!
Shame on both of you!!
The present Labour Party under Dr Joseph Muscat thinks otherwise from what we have witnessed so far!
Alfred A. Falzon
Alfred Vassallo
Aug 22nd 2012, 11:55
@Alfred Falzon
Gentleman are never traitors. And the shame is on YOU for saying so.
Please choose the reason of your report below: