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PL says immigration remains a concern

The immigrant arrivals last night.

The Labour Party said today that the arrival of some 160 migrants in Malta last night showed how this problem was continuing to persist.

In a statement, Michael Falzon, shadow minister for home affairs, said that while Malta had to observe its international obligations, one could not deny that illegal immigration was a challenge and a burden on the country.

Recent studies had shown that not only did Malta have the highest per capita rate of immigrant arrivals, but the Maltese were the most worried people about immigration in the EU.

Malta also had one of the highest rates of protection to illegal immigrants.

Dr Falzon said that the government should remain prepared to tackle this issue and it needed to be more active in European and international fora in the interests of the country.

He noted that for several months now, Malta was without a minister responsible to handle illegal immigration, a situation which reflected the poor state of the government.

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carlos ellul

Aug 17th 2012, 15:30

I wouldnt want immigrants to die either however by insisting on the Dublin 2 treaty which the PN signed in the first place goes against both the locals and immigrants interests. Its immoral to keep people here against their will

Charles Grixti

Aug 17th 2012, 16:11

Real Socialists would be against immigration as it would undermine their voter base - the working classes.

Nowadays, Socialists International has been co-opted by the Globalists and it is really there only for show, as are all current 'Socialist' parties in the world.

B. Cachia

Aug 17th 2012, 08:07

At the end of the day, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. The current policy has failed miserably. Maybe it's time to see if a different team can do better. Having so many voters in the south of the island, Labour would certainly have a greater incentive to solve this problem than the current government, which hardly appears to view it as a problem at all.

carlos ellul

Aug 16th 2012, 21:08

We must pull the plug out of the dublin 2 so immigrants can leave malta and go to europe.

B. Cachia

Aug 16th 2012, 21:12

For a start, it would help if we actually removed the incentives there are for them to come, such as the small (but real) possibility of some of them being taken in by richer European countries, the liberal granting of refugee status and subsidiary protection, and a ridiculously short time limit on detention for illegal immigrants who do not cooperate in the repatriation process.

It must be borne in mind that the vast majority of them are seeking higher incomes and better lifestyles rather than escaping from danger. Even of those who are really refugees, most if not all would have passed through safe countries and safe areas on their journey to Malta, and from that point onwards would have continued the journey for economic reasons. For people who have a choice, like the ones I have just described, modifying incentives would make a difference.

As for the Maltese emigrants of former days, the parallel is completely false. They emigrated legally, with the full consent of the host countries, as part of organised emigration programmes.

carlos ellul

Aug 16th 2012, 21:16

Immigration has always been present throughout the world. People come and go. Such phenomenon is natural especially in countries like malta were opportunities are limited such as in malta. Unfortunately things changed with the dublin 2 treaty which forces us to force immigrants to stay here against their will. If immigrants leave illegally they are caught and sent back to us.

This deal is shortsighted, xenophobic and is against our national interest. I wonder how a party who pride of being religio and patria can accept it. Is it catholic to force people here against their will?

Anthony Arpa

Aug 16th 2012, 21:23

those who realy looksfoward to live as the europeans on europeans lands will be welcome ... but those who pretend that european change their life to their way no , those are not welcome ...

angelo cilia

Aug 16th 2012, 21:26

They should be helped to make their vast and resource rich continent into a powerhouse of success and wealth as apparently they are incapable of ever doing that on their own since they would rather run off to burden other nations like tiny 122 square mile barren Malta for more handouts and easy living in the magic isle of never ending plenty.

angelo cilia

Aug 16th 2012, 21:51

They should be helped to make their vast and resource rich continent into a powerhouse of success and wealth as apparently they are incapable of ever doing that on their own since they would rather run off to burden other nations like tiny 122 square mile barren Malta for more handouts and easy living in the magic isle of never ending plenty.

Joseph Vassallo, (Bugibba)

Aug 16th 2012, 22:54

@ Walter Camilleri:

You asked for suggestions. I made a suggestion on another thread of this comments board, but I only have one surname and I have no letters of distinction to add to that, so nobody is going to take any notice of it. For the record, the thread is http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120816/local/immigrants-to-be-brought-to-malta-later-tonight.432994 and my suggestion was this:

"Someone here said that complaints without suggested alternatives are useless, so I have a suggestion. Mightier nations than ours have a standby-supply of large sea craft such as hospital ships that are mostly idle except when emergencies arise; if one or two such craft were to be stationed in the southern Mediterranean, wannabe immigrants could be intercepted and taken on board for humanitarian assistance and once recuperated, sent back to their point of departure without ever reaching land. This is what Frontex ought to be doing. Constant patrols would be necessary for smaller craft trying to sneak through but by and large, most would be intercepted."

I looked at comparative proportional figures (population and geographical areas) were these arrivals to be met by other European countries. The results are daunting.

You also wrote about them escaping from chaos in what I perceived to be a very sympathetic way; sadly, what you did not say was that they do not leave the chaos behind when they leave their country but bring it with them and inflict it on this miniscule nation.

It is not easy to determine how many of the arrivals are fugitives from the law and potentially dangerous to society, be they wanted for murder, rape, theft or whatever. They come here and are instantly given a clean criminal record and become an unannounced, discreet, but very real, source of danger to the Maltese public.

Raphael Dingli

Aug 17th 2012, 05:43

Human suffering should be addressed by both parties and should be above politics. There should be bi-partisan agreement on the way forward. Malta should not go down the Australian road on this issue. It has created division ,hatred,paninc and racism. Politicians of all colours should get together to agree on the next steps.

Mr Tony Gatt

Aug 17th 2012, 08:53

"Very, very, sadly, people do not accept that what we call Illegal Immigrants are desperate people escaping from chaos in the greater part of Africa in search of a life where they can earn a decent living away from the dangers of civil wars, religious strife and genocides."

It's over half a century since these countries got to run their own affairs- it's their inept and corrupt governments which are the cause of all this misery, but Europe is now suffering.

As for Maltese and others emigrating, Australia for one needed skilled and semi-skilled labour in the fifties and actively encourage immigration. That was a completely different scenario.


carlos ellul

Aug 16th 2012, 19:40

Would you be so kind in explaining how refusing to act as the EU detention center would mean going against Maltas interest?

stephen koludrovic

Aug 16th 2012, 20:53

Your comment contradicts what you are trying to say.

All Joseph Muscat said was that maybe we should have done what the Italians did, and that in my books means that he was supporting Malta and not vise versa.

B. Cachia

Aug 16th 2012, 21:13

You don't appear to me to be standing with Malta yourself, if you will allow me to point it out to you.

Alfred Vassallo

Aug 17th 2012, 09:46

I think the 'dear leader' aspect is confusing your mind. Read what you wrote again and see what I mean.

B. Cachia

Aug 16th 2012, 21:15

The Nationalist Party is in government, Norman. It's the government that has the means to deal with this, and the solution is not going to come out of begging our partners for more help.

A Camilleri

Aug 16th 2012, 18:24

If the PL comes out clearly against illegal immigration, they have my vote.

carlos ellul

Aug 16th 2012, 17:25

Actually we want immigrants to leave Malta rather then stay here for good.

cesco di luigi

Aug 16th 2012, 17:34

"deal a blow to the black economy"? excuse me is this a joke?

Robert Callus

Aug 16th 2012, 18:14

@Carlos Ellul

One does not exclude the other. Some are going to stay no matter how many press releases the PL issues. Others are here temporarily. In both cases - make the best out of it.

@cesco di luigi

At present it's in the hands of employers to apply for work permits. Most choose not to, for obvious reasons. What's so funny about granting temporary work permits? (apart from the political will to crack down illegal employment, which neither PN or PL have any intention to do)

stephen koludrovic

Aug 16th 2012, 17:22

@ john Camilleri,
You worry about 4 people dieing.

There are thousands of children dieing of malnutrition every day in Africa. some of them could have been saved if only these immigrants remained behind and tilled some fields to feed them.

carlos ellul

Aug 16th 2012, 17:31

Another reason why illegal immigration should stop.

mark borg

Aug 16th 2012, 20:27

appuntu ...jhekk tibqa tilqahhom hawn tibqa itijhom incentiv biex jigu u jmutu fuq il bahar mewta krudili.

Sean Swain

Aug 17th 2012, 08:09

Oh yes,

as will any economic problems, employment issues, hospital waiting times, jellyfish, mosquitos, I'm even sure they will figure out how to make the summer heatwaves more bearable.
What the rest of us 'non-sheep' would like to know is HOW?

The Nationalist camp isn't stating that immigration isn't a problem, but Labour are promising EVERYTHING and failing in every aspect to explain how, which lets face it, is more emportant then empty promises.

I'm not saying the PN are in the right, what I'm saying is talk is cheap, so if PL don't have a plan then they should say nothing at all.

cesco di luigi

Aug 16th 2012, 17:04

WELL SAID

angelo cilia

Aug 16th 2012, 18:59

All political parties now are just rubber stampers for EU mandates that no one voted for.

stephen koludrovic

Aug 16th 2012, 18:23

No the EU should not have the last say. If the EU do not want them, then Malta should be under no obligation to keep them.


j brincat

Aug 16th 2012, 16:07

- vide my post in reply to that of Anthony Arpa.

So, really you've heard nothing yet, gil!



(jb)


Peter Simpson

Aug 16th 2012, 16:23

@A. Arpa.You should have asked these questions to GonziPn who has burdened us with 'burden sharing.!

Joseph Camilleri

Aug 16th 2012, 23:55

The PL has put forward its recommendations?

If you say that often enough you might actually start believing it!

carlos ellul

Aug 16th 2012, 15:58

Nghidu iva

carlos ellul

Aug 16th 2012, 15:49

If sending rapporti is the best thing it can do then no wonder why the government is in shambles

Sean Swain

Aug 17th 2012, 08:01

Agree 100%.

GL Calleja

Aug 16th 2012, 15:49

That is a lost cause because a statement like that would mean a loss of votes for any party, but you know that already..

Anthony A. Mifsud

Aug 16th 2012, 15:43

I will show you the upper hand when I be there sur Mifsud
do you copy me ?
Ninu

Colin Stanley

Aug 16th 2012, 15:41

agree with you 100%

Peter Simpson

Aug 16th 2012, 16:26

First vote for Labour to rid us of the politicians who burdened us with burden sharing in the first place, and then you will see that Labour is no lackey to foreign politicians who preach.. but do not practice what they preach!

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