Update 3: Air tank explosion injures bandsman, supporters
Feast celebrations continue tonight
Video: Paul Spiteri Lucas
Seven people were injured in Gudja early this afternoon when an air tank forming part of a machine used to fire paper during the band march exploded, the police said.
The machine whose air tank exploded, injuring three people. Photo: Paul Spiteri LucasThey said three were taken to hospital by ambulance, the others made their own way to Mater Dei. None of the injured are in a critical condition and five were released from hospital soon after treatment.
Two - bandsman Bjorn Callus, 26, who was wounded in his neck and shoulder and supporter Alexander Bigeni, who suffered grievous leg injuries, were operated upon and kept for further treatment.
The incident happened at 12.15 p.m.
The four men and a woman who have been released from hospital are aged between 12 and 33 and are from Gzira, Valletta, Zebbug, Gudja and Zabbar.
An inquiry is being held.
Gudja is celebrating the feast of Sta Marija. The band march was stopped after the incident but celebrations are continuing as normal this evening, since none of the injured is critical, a spokesman for the feast organisers said.
Popular Stories
Old buses, drivers to return
Former Judge Ray Pace found dead
Updated: Minister apologises for...
Three new Nationalist MPs elected –...
Where’s Everybody staff is given notice
Updated - Director of Prisons submits...
Update 4 - Eddie Fenech Adami stable...
Revealed...the face of a Maltese woman...
Update 3 - Woman trapped as car crashes...
In Discussion
Old buses, drivers to return
Updated: Minister apologises for...
Updated - Director of Prisons submits...
Enemalta seeking minimum five year gas...
Protected birds shot and trapped as...
Mario de Marco, Zammit Dimech concede,...
PN postpones salaries as financial...
Updated - PM's offer to Opposition MPs...
No appeals board for first part of power...
82 Comments
Post comment
Please sign in or create your Account to post comments.
Joe Xuereb
Aug 17th 2012, 13:11
@ Alfred Cassar(Yesterday, 18:22). Sur Cassar, ippermettili nikkwotak: 'Ghax ma tkellmux qabel biex forsi kienu jevitaw l-incident. Qisu mkien ma jigru incidenti hlief Malta'. Fil-fatt min qiegħed igerger jekk jagħmel eżattament dak li qed tissuġġerixxi int. Qegħdin igergru biex ma nsofrux inċidenti bħal dan fil-FUTUR (jiġifieri, nitgħallmu lezzjoni minn dak li ġara'. Nittama li fissirt sew dak li rrid ngħid.
Lil min insinwa li aħjar dan l-apparat milli mqass jinfidlek l-iskutella ta' rasek meta jaqa' mal-karti minn fuq xi bejt jew gallarija. Iż-żewġ sitwazzjonijiet ħżiena.
Il-Gudja għal qalbi għax f'dan ir-raħal sibt l-ewwel impieg fl-1958. Min jaf x'sar minnhom dawk it-tfal ta' l-iskola primarja llum nanniet huma wkoll. Min jaf għadhiex hemm?! Forsi xi darba nasal wasla u nixrob kafe' fil-pjazzetta. J'Alla jkolli x-xorti! Kemm kienu jippikaw mat-tfal ta' Ħal-Għaxaq għax il-knisja tal-Gudja kellha tlitt kampnari filwaqt li r-raħal l-ieħor kellu biss is-soltu tnejn. Jew kontra, tant għadda żmien. Kien hemm tifla bil-laqam 'in-Noqqa'.
Ili ma nattendi festa Maltija madwar ħamsin sena. Min jaf kif inħossni kieku kelli nerġa' nkun preżenti. Pjuttost taqbiżli xi demgħa.
Nittama li dawk li korrew jergħu b'saħħithom mill-aktar fiss.
Cettina Camilleri
Aug 17th 2012, 07:27
Mr Peter Midler, I respect your opinion, but its not fair on many persons who are keeping their fathers traditional believes, work hard without being payed and find persons like you spreading all this hate. Thank God your children are not drug addict, but you did not mention the computer, so I can see that they are computer addicts as I say slaves of the technology. You really make me sick, cos I could not believe the hate you have for thousands of persons who work all year round so they can celebrate a great feast,which people who appreciate can enjoy...people like you are trying to kill our culture and make us live like robots...my son is a computer addict and I admit, I'd rather see him working with other youths for the village feast, than sitting on a chair infront of a screen all day long...so please don't be an egoist, and think about others before thinking about your self...you truly make me SICK....and try to destroy the tradition cos thats what it please you...hope someone will try to destroy what you really like, so than I will see what's your comment...This was just an accident and you started firing the hate you have for feasts. I'd rather stop, than keep on going , trying to make an idiot understand
Peter Midler
Aug 17th 2012, 08:38
Sewwa jghid il-Malti...'Il-verita toffendi', Ms Camilleri.
Joe Fenech
Aug 16th 2012, 17:51
Reduce these stupid feast. They are not a tourist attraction but a nuisance. We know how it goes (roads blocked, fireworks over several days, stupid ideas like this compressor one, and chaviness galore).
This incident requires a thorough investigation and whoever the culprits are needs to be charged for attempted involuntary-murder and not respecting health and safety procedure. These idiots need to pay for the ambulance, police and personnel solicited.
Cettina Camilleri
Aug 16th 2012, 10:50
I am truly fed up of reading your negative comments about the feasts. When an accident happen in a feast, many of you raise your wings to input the hate to those who use there free time to work as voluntier in their Society...you NEVER mention that these Societies are keeping our youths away from drugs, and that these same youths are learning lot of things. You always mention the negative things...this was an accident and that's the end of the story...Many car accidents happened, so YOU who are criticizing do not let your children buy a car, cos its not a toy, but its a letal weapon. I hope the AUTHORITIES, do not listen to your nonsense comments, cos if they do, it would be a GREAT problem, cos those youths who dedicate there time all year long for these feast, we will lose them, and the only thing that they have left is, sitting all day infront of a computer or partying all night long....AND I MAKE YOU WHO ARE CRITICIZING THE FEASTS RESPONSABLE FOR WHAT HAPPEN TO THESE YOUTHS !!!!!!!!
Peter Midler
Aug 16th 2012, 16:28
Ms Camilleri my grown up children like me, and like many other people in Malta, are not festa fanatics (thanks God). We, like many other people that are only bothered by our own affairs, are not the sort of people to fill the village with hmieg bhall karti tal-festi li jintefghu (issa ahjar ghax qedin nisparawhom ukoll), or indulge in the festa hamallagni, dagha waqt il-marc, tfiegh ta' flieken, glied, pikki bla razan (biex ninku lill tal kazin l-iehor), etc, etc, as seen in festas! And yet, we are not drug addicts as you imply that those who do not indulge in this culture of festi (sic) can easily become!
We do not make arbli tal-festa fuq il-bankini li lanqas pushchair ma jista jghaddi! Or leave the holes of these arbli uncovered after we remove them with the consequence that people fall or trip because of such irresponsible acts. L'aqwa li inqdejna u wahhalna il-pavaljuni biex inkunu ahjar mir-rahal l-iehor! Or fix pavaljuni and festa lights against people's properties without bothering to ask the owner's permission, either.
Ghal grazja t'Alla ma namlux dawn l-afarijiet, u kif ghedtlek, ma niehdux drogi. Minflokk, naghmlu dawn l-affarijiet, ghanna delizji ohra li nassigurak li ma jdejqu lill hadd! Delizji bla uzu ta bombi ta murtali essagerati li jdejaq lin-nies u jbezzghu it-tfal zghar, idejqu il morda u jwerwru lill-annimali.
Mela minn ghandu il-vizji li semmejt int, mhux ghax mhux delettanti tal-festi u tal-gharmar, imma ghal ragunijiet ohra.
Ghallura skond il-proverbju 'thallatx il-hass ma affarijiet ohra', jekk joghogbok!
Mary Rose Zammit
Aug 16th 2012, 09:30
"..celebrations are continuing as normal this evening, since none of the injured is critical..... " It seems no one of the injured was related to the organisers! In the evening people should have gathered in church to pray for the injured not to celebrate!
P BORG
Aug 16th 2012, 07:18
The most important thing: "..celebrations are continuing as normal this evening, since none of the injured is critical..... "
I would have added " in true christian spirit and solidarity"
Joseph Aquilina
Aug 16th 2012, 08:54
@P Borg,
It is clear the the external feasts have nothing to do with Christian spirit and some of them have clearly turned into pagan celebration of statues. The Church in Malta has tried to introduce regulations to keep the traditional Christian aspects of feasts, but unfortunately some prefer to celebrate a statue with songs, alcohol and swearing, rather then celebrate what that statue really represents. Those against the exaggeration going on in local feasts should show all their support to the Church so that in Malta and Gozo once more we have traditional Christian feasts, and not just vulgar pagan celebrations.
Philip Mizzi
Aug 15th 2012, 23:33
Niftahru bil-kultura (sic) tal-festi! X'kultura?? Tal-hmieg u karti u storbju u hamallagni u dagha u ..............
Tafu x'inthom taghmlu?
robert spiteri
Aug 16th 2012, 09:08
tarax naha wahda tal munita u tara l hazin biss! jaqaw int xi wiehed milli tara l festi hzina biss? mela ghax mar xi haga hazin tikteb kollox hazin.ghadek ma tafx x jigifieri taghmel sagrificju biex issir festa uri rispett habib!
julian caruana
Aug 16th 2012, 09:12
fully agree with you ..... we have become a country of hammalagni and it is getting worse not better.......
carmel ellul
Aug 16th 2012, 10:02
sur mizzi,
inti tattendi ghall-quddies, funzjonijet religjuzi, celebrazzjonijiet liturgici u attivitajiet socjali li jsiru fil-festi maltin?
Peter Midler
Aug 16th 2012, 15:09
Sur ellul, mhux affari tieghek x'nisma u x'ma nismax!
Ma titwemminx il-mentalita' ta' dawn in-nies!
Clayton Abdilla
Aug 17th 2012, 14:03
Nahseb li ilek mhux hazin ma tmur festa ta... almenu nitkellem fuq taghna tal Gudja iz-zewg partitarji taz-zewg kazini il-marci kollha jkantaw... dak iz-zmien tal-hmieg, storbju u dagha ghadda u nies nahseb saret hafna izjed edukata minn dak li qed tiddeskrivi INT...
Ludgardo Zammit
Aug 15th 2012, 21:13
I find all this very dramatic and surreal. For the sake of our village festas, every year, men, women and children get injured and even perish, through fireworks and now even during band marches. But invariably these poor people are considered as just collateral damage in our festa frenzy. Unfortunate victims of accidents. Let's pray for them, we are told, but the festa must go on, in most cases, certainly the following year. Any lessons learnt? I'm not so sure because accidents continue to happen.
|George D'Amato
Aug 15th 2012, 20:56
AS usual. All church haters areu ot in full force! So it is the Archbishop's fault!! Of course it is the Archbishop and the Curia who organise Band Marches. I bet the Archbishop is importing these machines so he becomes richer. Pity he is a monk and will not take anything with him at the end of his term as he has the vow of poverty. If Ï'm not mistaken several politicians from both sides of the political divide lead our Band Clubs who are responsible for Band marches. But no it is the Church, the Curia, the Archbishop who is to blame. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! Coincidentally several people were injured during a brawl in a Gozo Disco. But of course that does nor make news as we cannot attack the church!
Michael Pule
Aug 15th 2012, 23:05
Prosit Mr. D'Amato, well said. It seems that it is always the church to blame for all the grieviences that happen in our country. Probably even this heat wave....yes it is Archbishop Cremona's fault. And then everybody rushes to get a priest before we die and we organize splendid funerals, of course in our churches.
Ms Marianne Mercieca
Aug 15th 2012, 23:57
Well said Mr. D'Amato!!
carmel ellul
Aug 16th 2012, 10:11
it also seems taht, conveniently, maltese tend to forget that some 40 years ago, government decided that the church would no longer be in control of external festivities. these were to have a police permit only (to please band clubs controlled by politicians themselves!)
Reality is, unfortunately, that band clubs can bully the MLPN coalition and get it always their way!
John Portelli
Aug 15th 2012, 20:13
Can all these people submitting their comments tell us if we should ban all the cars in our roads since car accidents are more frequent than these festa ones. Accidents of any type happen and one has to make his best to avoid them. This is a pure case of 'kulhadd jghid kif jaqbillu'. I wish a quick recovery to all those injured.
Joseph N. Attard
Aug 15th 2012, 20:00
I do hope that the authorities have brought in experts to try to find out why the "air tank" exploded. Any pressurized vessel is inherently dangerous in the wrong hands. I understand that the practice is widespread, and future accidents must be avoided.
Mr R.E. Saliba
Aug 16th 2012, 16:20
The widespread practise is that of hiring professional air cannons, Joseph.
It is the practise of using home-made ones that must be avoided.
Charlene Farrugia
Aug 15th 2012, 19:37
I don't understand those who are saying that this happened because of the paganism on our island. I ask what would you have said if God forsake, one of the patron saint statues fell on people in the procession? Why can't you say that this was a very unfortunate accident and that's it!
James Scerri
Aug 15th 2012, 18:51
First and foremost : A big get well soon to these 7 ppl...Saint Mary will put her blessing on you.
Secondly, being a fan of feasts myself, I have seen these CO2 tanks in circulation during marches for a long time now. For me it's amply clear, that a pressurized tank (whatever the contents) is dangerous, in the sun and the scorching heat.
Lets hope that common sense prevails and the people involved avoid using such hazards.
Alfred Cassar
Aug 15th 2012, 18:27
Accidents do happen sometimes whatever we do.
Let's pray for the injured to get well soon
carmel cassar
Aug 15th 2012, 21:54
Miracles happen more often than accidents. As I said it many times before, accidents are confused with negligence, Dig deep in any accident and you will find these shortcomings. Irresponsible people who ignore safety precautions applicable to the particular equipment. Lack of knowledge about it, pressure, tiredness, lack of servicing or worse botched up repair,tampering with safety features and many more. 99% of what is so called accidents could not have happened if regulations are adhered to.
K Mifsud
Aug 15th 2012, 18:15
Nawgura fejqan ta malajr lil dawk kollha li sofrew xi griehi filwaqt li nirringrazzja lin nurses u l-crew mediku tax-xoghol siewi li jaghmlu.
G Falzon
Aug 15th 2012, 18:14
Shame! People injured and operated upon and the decision is taken to carry on with the feast. SHAME!
Viva Santa Marija
Cettina Camilleri
Aug 15th 2012, 18:54
https://www.facebook.com/ahbarijietmalta/posts/10151154952161578
Fuq facebook ghaddej dan l-appell li ''L-Arcipriet tal-Gudja ghandu jikkonsidra li l-Purcissjoni tal-lejla tkun fil-forma ta' Pellegrinag ta' talb lill-Madonna ghal bzonnijiet ta' dawk li wegghu dalghodu. Grazzi''. Qed jghidu biex l-avviz jigi xxerjat halli jinstema' l-appell.
BEFORE YOU WRITE SHAME SEE EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING...AS I SAID BEFORE, DO NOT SHOOT WORDS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IS HAPPENING
M GAUCI
Aug 15th 2012, 17:44
Hija hasra li certu nies jiehdu l opportunita u juzaw accidenti bhall dawn sabiex jitfghu dawl ikrah fuq il festi Maltin . Hadd ma jsemmi u japrezza l isofrzi li jsiru sabiex wiehed itella festa. Hadd ma jghid jghid li dawn huma parti hajja mill kultura taghna li dejjem qeghdin jevolvu. Dan kien kaz sfortunat u b daqsekk ma ghandux jidrhu koroh il festi (din is sistema tal kanuni tal karti tintuza anke waqt kuncerti). Nawgura fejqan ta malajr li persuni involuti.
Gordon Borg
Aug 15th 2012, 17:36
il knisja fuq ii kampanja tad divorzju nefqet eluf kbar ta euros,fuq l IVF hlief cucati ma tghidx u fuq dal paganizmu sfrenat halqa sieket.Jista jkun li hemm xi introjtu ghal knisja mil festi????????????
Ms Marianne Mercieca
Aug 16th 2012, 00:09
Ir-rendikonti li jinhargu fi tmiem il-festa juru li hafna parrocci jispiccaw b'telf. Kun af il-fatti sew qabel tparla fil-vojt!! Taf fejn qieghed isir l-infieq tal-Knisja? Fil-miljuni li jintefqu kull sena biex jitmexxew id-djar u l-istituti tat-tfal, id-Dar tal-Providenza u fl-ghajnuniet li taghti kuljum lill-familji fil-bzonn!!
carmel cassar
Aug 15th 2012, 17:31
Who built these machines? If imported has the safety precautions been followed? If they are bogged locally have they been approved?Other questions need to be asked and dealt with too at the enquiry. All those irresponable people have to answer. We just can't leave anymore of these occurances to happen. The full weight of the law need to be administered. No more of the Marsaxlok brawl outcome.
Claire Busuttil
Aug 15th 2012, 17:30
so ...who`s going to take up the responsability of this???
Andrew Grech
Aug 15th 2012, 17:30
Xi dwejjeq ta pajjiz !!!! Kulhadd igorr u jeqred. Sa fejn naf jien is-sunetti ilhom jitwaddbu sa min zmien zemzem, x'hini l-problema li jitwaddbu b'mod differenti flok mill-gallariji u l-bjut. Fejn hu dal-paganizmu kollhu ?!?!?! U mqassijiet nezlin mas-sunetti min fuq il-bjut kellna fl-antik ukoll ta !! Accident jghidulu dak !! Wiehed f'mitt qamar. Seta cilindru bhalu sploda fuq post tax-xoghol, ma nafx ghalfejn dan it-tgergir kollhu !! Fil-festa ta pajjizi ilna nuzaw apparat bhal dak snin twal u ghal grazzja t'Alla qatt ma wegga hadd u kif naf cert li ilhom jintuzaw f'hafna postijiet ohra.
Nahseb jien mhux poplu pagan sirna, imma poplu monotonu u tgergir !!
Jiddispjacini ghal dawk li kienu feruti u nawguralhm fejqan ta malajr.
Alfred Cassar
Aug 15th 2012, 18:22
Well said Andrew, imma hawn tisma t-tgergir kollu tad-dinja siehbi. Fuq kollox igergru u fuq kollox esperti wara li jkun gara l-incident. Ghax ma tkellmux qabel biex forsi kienu jevitaw l-incident. Qisu mkien ma jigru incidenti hlief Malta
James Scerri
Aug 15th 2012, 18:53
Very well said!
George Lewis
Aug 15th 2012, 17:26
Wara li jsir xi accident kulhadd irid jghid tieghu.Jidher li anke l-isqof gie kkritikat ghal dak li gara bhallikieku kien b'xi mod responsabbli.Kemm ilha tghid il knisja dwar in-nar,il-festi etc.X'taghmel meta ma jigux osservati x-xewqat taghha,twaqqaf il-festi anki ta gewwa?Nahseb li huma l-ghaqdiet li ghandhom ikunu resposabbli biex jigu evitati d-disgrazzji.
Cettina Camilleri
Aug 15th 2012, 17:22
Some people always wait for an accident, so they start complaining and start gossiping. Accidents do happen, everywhere, so please STOP aiming your fingers on who is responsible...This cannon of paper is not dangerous, but these persons where unfortunate. Instead of pointing fingers we better give our help and respect to all the voluntary work that is done from these youths. Its not as it looks, or better as some persons against feasts are trying to make us believe, that it was all the fault of the organizers or the police...it was an accident and that's all. If we consider what Mr Anthony Vella said, I will not use a cooker, to cook on it at home, cos it also can explode.So please think before you shoot words. With all my respect, I give the get well soon to all who are involved to this accident and the solidarity to Saint Mary Band club in Gudja...you are all in my thoughts and prayers
Andrea Seychell
Aug 15th 2012, 17:18
Isthu titkellmu hekk nofskom!!! Dan ma kien hemm xejn hazin la kontra il ligi u lanqas kontra ir regoli tal knisja! Incident sfortunat! Misskom tisthu titkellmu li dak li sar sforz il paganizmu! Hija kultura li jitgaraw il-karti fil festi! mela issa naqtawom ukoll karti fil festa.. anke ir ross li jintefa meta jkunu hergin l-gharrajjes mill knisja ax jistu jizolqu!!! Cmon!! Qedin nghixu fit 2012! Tkellmu responsabli u qisu dak li tghidu qabel!
Carmel Grima
Aug 15th 2012, 17:16
And the Blessed Virgin weeps with sorrow for what happens during our Malta feast celebrations.
No one, and I mean no one has had the courage to stop or attenuate these pagan celebrations that often result in death and destruction.
No government or opposing party has had the courage to face the problem. In this island votes are more important than the rest.
Ing. Carmel Grima.
Charles Zahra
Aug 15th 2012, 18:07
Prosit !! Well said.
Charles Micallef
Aug 15th 2012, 17:08
What is important besides praying for the injured concerned, is for the authorities to discover what caused the explosion and pass on the information to the oustanding fiestas committees to avoid a repetition!!
Ramon Casha
Aug 15th 2012, 16:56
Who was responsible?
Mr anthony vella
Aug 15th 2012, 16:53
ahna nies li ma nitghalmu qatt. anzi, imisshom l-awtoritajiet ma jhallux lil dawn iz-zaghzagh jilghabu b'dawn l-affarijiet li ghalihom qishom 'toys'. jekk huma perikoluzi mhux sew u daqshekk....it tort ta min hu responsabli...
Christine Farrugia
Aug 15th 2012, 17:16
dejjem irridu nwahhlu fl-awtorita?? biex insiru pajjiz polizjesk u hadd ma jiehu nifs???? kullhadd ghandu jkun responsabbli tieghu innifsu u ma jilghabx man-nar ....... accidents dejjem jibqu jigru taghmel x'taghmel
cesco di luigi
Aug 15th 2012, 16:38
What a pity. Maybe next time the committee that organises the feast will be more careful. I even heard that cars that were parked perfectly legally on the street were damaged some days prior to the feast by the feast organisers just so they could get the poles up for the lights.
carmel ellul
Aug 15th 2012, 17:45
qabel ma titfa tajn, sur cesco di luigi, ahjar tara l-affarijiet sew.
Il-marcijiet ta' filghodu fil-Gudja ma humiex fir-responsabbilta' ta' min jorganizza l-festi interni u esterni ta' Santa Marija. Fil-fatt ma jidhrux, u qatt ma dehru, bhala parti mill-programm ufficjali tal-festi li huma organizzati mill-parrocca. Dawn huma responsabilta' tal-kazini tal-banda li jorganizzawhom, bil-permess tal-pulizija.
U nieqaf hawn ghaxmghaggel biex nitla' ghac-celebrazzjonijiet tal-festa fil-knisja. Esperjenza ta' kull sena li ma nitlef qatt.
Clayton Abdilla
Aug 15th 2012, 17:47
Dear Mr Di Luigi,
Kindly please be careful when saying and writing words which do not reflect the truth. I am one of the feast organizers and we never did such thing at least in St Mary's Feast which I can vouch. If and whenever we find some car in our way we always tend to find to whom does this belong to and ask him/her to move it so that we can continue putting up the decorations. So please do tell me if this happened in St Mary's Feast, in Gudja and whom he is so that I can speak to him personally to see into this.
On another note regarding this incident, it's a really pity that a machine like this had to end in this way. I trust in the media not to exaggerate to be unique and exclusive. Reality may be different than what really happened so please do state the facts clearly.
Gudja has his own character where St Mary's Feast is organized by the parish church with the participation of both secondary feast clubs. In fact the other march was entering in the square just after this one. So those of you who are saying that nothing had been done and we are only celebrating pagan feasts please do see the facts. Several meetings and directions have been made so as not to celebrate a fireworks feast or a pagan feast. If you came during these five days you would see that all church masses of Tridu and that of the Panigirku this morning, you would find all church filled up. In fact we do not do fireworks like they do in other places... just what is really needed.
I urge all of you for prayers as I also heard that those with critical injuries are all recovering well... thanks and good feast for everyone...
R. Balzan
Aug 15th 2012, 16:35
Konsegwenza ohra tal-karnivalati pagani li jsiru fl-irhula ta' Malta bil-barka tal-knisja taghna u bil-permess tal-awtoritahjiet. Forsi xi darba - meta taggorna ruha l-knisja f'Malta u meta l-pulizija taghna jigradwaw minn kawbojs - nitghallmu u l-karnival u street parties inhalluhom ghal zmienhom fi Frar.
K. Vella
Aug 15th 2012, 16:57
@Sur Balzan....
Jekk ma dahlux l-knisja ma nkunux kuntenti....
Il-Knisja ma ghandhiex x'taqsam f'dan il-marc....
What a pity....
M. Degiorgio
Aug 15th 2012, 17:08
X'int tissugerixxi Sur Balzan?
R. Balzan
Aug 15th 2012, 17:46
@ K. Vella - il-knisja maltija ghandha x'taqsam aktar minn kulhadd ghax dawn il-karnivalati suppost isiru biex jigi onorat il-patrun/patruna tar-rahal f'celebrazzjoni bil-knisja tar-rahal fic-centru taghha. Jigifieri is-soluzzjoni hi wahda, nehhu l-festi kollha mit-toroq u ghamlu celbrazzjoni solenni biss gol-knejjes. Imbghad min irid jaghmel street party jmur Ta' Qali u jaghmel wiehed hemm bil-permess. U jista' jixrob u jixxadinja kemm irid!
Joe Debono
Aug 15th 2012, 17:52
@ K Vella
nahseb li tant saret ovvja l-festa li nsejt ghaliex primarjament issir..
il-festi jsiru biex il-poplu 'suppost' ifakkar il-patrun qaddis jew qaddisa tar-rahal ..
nahseb li x'isir waqt il-festi li 'suppost' huma religjuzi, il-knisja ghandha taghti l-kelma taghha u mhux thalli li l-festi jsiru dejjem aktar pagani u l-awqa li l-kappillan ikun mistieden ghall-grokk tal festa !!!!
Ronnie Callus
Aug 15th 2012, 18:06
@ R.Balzan:
Il-knisja ilha tigbed l-attenzjoni fuq hafna affarijiet, imma numru mhux hazin jehduha kontriha biex jippruvaw jghalqula halqa. Ma' rajnihiex kemm qalu kontra l-Isqof t'ghawdex Mario Grech ( sa' qalulu biex iwwarrab) kif ukoll l-Isqof Cremona. Il-hsara dahlet il-gewwa ghax ghal hafna li skandlu spicca u ma' joqghodtx jahsibha darbtejn biex iwassal messaggi mhux korrett jew kif jaqbel lilu. Biss ghandna naghmlu kuragg ghax il-hazin jghamel aktar hoss mit-tajjeb sfortunatament u il-'VERITA' xi kultant twegga.. Anke fli news aktar tisma bil-hazin milli bit-tajjeb li jkun sar. Tahsbu li tajjeb ma' jkunx sar ???????
peppi pace
Aug 15th 2012, 15:54
Nixieq il fejqan ta malajr lil dawn iz zaghzagh,pero l -isqof ghandu jirrifletti sew x inhi it tifsira ta festa. Festi pagani. Li kellu jinzel Mose jerga jara l istess xenx li ra meta nizel min fuq il muntanja nies jaduraw ghoggol tad deheb.L istess haga qied jigri f hekk imsejha festi Maltin.
joseph agius
Aug 15th 2012, 16:30
Naqbel perfettament. Aktar ma jghaddi zmien aktar isiru pagani. Dur dawra waqt il marc. Hlief tghajjir,mibgheda u hdura ma ssibx. Nies jiggieldu físem l-istess Madonna .Wahda ghax bil gilju,wahda ghax bil-ruzarju etc etc. Imbghad tohrog fl-ghaxija. Hlief kjosks ibighaw imbarazz ma ssibx. Burgers,chips.kebabs etc. Kull haga li tghamillek il hsara issib tixtriha min dal-kjosk. Imma l-aqwa li jaghmillek ftit salad ukoll!! U gabbani jbighaw gugarelli mill aktar banali. U tfal igennu lil genituri biex jixtrulhom. Xejn Religjuz. Imma issa tard wisq. il -barri harbilna .
Joe Agius
Laurence Muscat
Aug 15th 2012, 17:04
Hbieb, inhoss li qed nigeneralizzaw, u nipprecipitaw is sitwazzjoni.
Baqa hafna festi li l iskop ewlieni u ic Centru tahhom huma il funzjonijiet fil Knisja u ghalekk mhumiex Pagani.
Naqbel ukoll illi il Kurja ghanda b' xi mod tintervieni fis sitwazzjoni, izda jkun ghajb jekk il kurja tpoggi lill kulhadd f keffa wahda.
Ghandu jsir studju tajjeb ta' kull festa individwali u jittiehdu azzjonijiet u jitwaqfu limiti ghal kull festa partikolari.
Ejjew flimkien nahdmu biex din it Tradizzjoni sabieha li ghanna ma tigix imxelfa min habbaf ftit li ma jkunux professjonali u attenti fl operat tghahom.
Joe Debono
Aug 15th 2012, 18:07
@ Laurence Muscat
tista' ssemmi rahal jew belt fejn in-nies jaghtu aktar kaz ic-celebrazzjonijiet interni tal-Knisja...
nahseb li hlief pika ma min ghandu l-ahjar nar, l-ajhar tizjin, l-ikbar marc, l-ikbar bar, l-ahjar xalata etc etc etc ma ssibx ... u n-nies fuq dak tikkummenta u mhux fuq il festi nterni!!
l-ebda festa m'hi individwali kif tghid inti .. il-festi jsiru kollha f'isem religjon wahda
Laurence Muscat
Aug 15th 2012, 23:20
Sur Debono,
Insemmi il Festa ta' San Pawl il Belt, il Festa tal Kuncizzjoni gewwa Bormla, insemmi il Festa ta Santa Maria gewwa il Mosta u Hattard, biex inkun tajtek ftit ezempji.
Ejja meta trid mat tridu u fil jiem tal Festa u issib Knisja ippakkjata bid devoti li ghalihom l ewwel priorita huma il Funzjonijiet ta gewwa.
Il Kumitati organizzativi jiehdu hsieb illi massir l ebda attivita Barra, waqt li tkun ghaddejja Funzjoni Fil Knisja.
Huwa fatt illi hawn Parrocci li m' ghandomx din ix xorti u intilef xi ftit il Kontroll, u ghalekk qed nghid illi il Festi jridu jigu ikkunsidrati Individwalment. Jekk il Kurja tahseb li trid tiehu provedimenti lejn Parrocci jew Festi li tilfu ir Ruh Kristjana, tghamel hazin jekk tpoggi lill kulhadd f' basket wiehed, ghax bhal ma semmejt qabel, hawn Parrocci illi huma ta' Ezempju, u ma jkunx sewwa li dawn jigu penalizzati ma l ohrajn.
Keith Cauchi
Aug 16th 2012, 08:14
@Joe Debono Nistiednek tigi ghan-novena gewwa Bormla fil-5 ta' filghodu (Iva m'inix nizbalja, fil-hamsa ta' filghodu) u gewwa l-parrocca u nassigurak li r-risposta ma thallilekx lok fejn terga' taghmel mistoqsija daqshekk generalizzata. Dan biex ma nsemmix l-ovvju fl-istess parrocca: il-quddies tal-hrug min-nicca, il-quddiesa l-kbira f'jum il-festa u l-barka wara d-dhul. Kull min rahom b'ghajnejh dejjem l-istess rimarki kellu xi jghid u kollha pozittivi.
Vera li m'ahniex ir-regola izda l-eccezzjoni, pero' nistiednek sabiex ma titfax kulhadd taht keffa wahda ghax ghandek kemm ghandek ragun, xorta tizbalja tkun qieghed habib. Intant gawdi l-festi sajfin u wara nisteidnek tigi tara festa ta' veru kif issir!
carmel ellul
Aug 16th 2012, 10:35
min gie l-Gudja fil-jiem tal-kwindicina kollha seta' jara partecipazzjoni ikbar fil-quddies, iktar dik ta' filghaxija. U fil-jiem tat-Tridu, it-Translazzjoni u l-quddiesa solenni mijiet sfidaw is-shana u l-umdita' biex jattendu ghall-funzjonijiet litugici.
nittama li mhux qed nahsbu li l-gabbani jaghtihom permess l-isqof ukoll hux? mur gib kieku jithallew biss dawk tradizzjonali tal-qubbajd, u forsi tal-pastizzi, kemm ikun hawn garr li qed tinqatel il-liberta' tal-kummerc!
Andrew schembri
Aug 15th 2012, 14:54
A pressure vessel should be equipped with overpressure relief valves, pressure gauges etc...and one should know the pressure limitations of the reservoir being used, ore else you have yourself a bomb. Wish them a speedy recovery.
Mr Emanuel Farrugia
Aug 15th 2012, 14:51
X'inhi t-tifsira tal-Festi f'Malta
Il-festi kollha tal-Knisja huma mwaqqfa fuq il-Misteri tal-Ghid ta' Kristu. Iç-çelebrazzjonijiet li jsiru fuq barra tal-knisja ghandhom ikunu t-tkomplija ta’ dak li qed ikun çelebrat fid-Dar ta’ Alla. Ghalhekk l-ambjent li ghandu jinholoq u l-inizjattivi li jittiehdu jridu jkunu jirriflettu l-esperjenza Nisranija li qed jghixu l-Insara fil-hajja taghhom bhala komunità.
Dawk l-oggetti u l-armar li huma mag˙rufa b˙ala sorpriƒa jew briju huma projbiti li jinhargu fit-toroq jew li jimxu mal-marçi. L-iskop ta’ dawn huwa biss ta’ pika u rivalità u jbaxxu l-valur tal-Festa Nisranija. Ghall-briju huma permessi biss bnadar u bziezaq. - [ARÇIDJOÇESI TA’ MALTA NIRRESTAWRAW IL-FESTI FLIMKIEN Ottubru 2009]
Importanti li wiehed jinnota li kulhadd irid izomm çar f’mohhu li l-hidmiet ewlenin tal-Knisja u tal-Parroççi
huma x-xandir tal-Kelma; it-twegiba ghal din il-Kelma permezz tal-qima; il-qadi tal-proxxmu biex l-imhabba lejn Alla tidher fl-imhabba tal-ahwa; u l-ghaqda bejn il-membri taghha ghaliex il-Mulej ikun prezenti meta tnejn jew tlieta jingabru f’Ismu. Jekk il-Festa ttellef jew taljena lill-komunità parrokkjali milli jitwettqu dawn il-hidmiet pastorali, ma tkunx okkazjoni ta’ çelebrazzjoni vera kif jixtieq il-Mulej. Il-komunità parrokkjali m’ghandhiex thalli l-Festa ttellef milli hi tilhaq il-veru skop taghha.
Emanuel Farrugia former Executive Secretary Mtarfa Local Council
C Briffa
Aug 15th 2012, 15:57
Ghaziz Emanuel , ghandek ragun imma llum ghal hafna Alla w qaddisin ma ghadhomx jezistu w ghalhekk dawn l-attivitajiet qed jinbidlu fi street party w l-knisja ma tista tghamel xejn ghax fid-dinja fejn kullhadd jista jesprimi l-opinjoni tieghu wassalna li l-Knisja ma tistghax titkellem.
Ghalhekk jiena nahseb li l-piz jinsab fuq l-awtoritajiet civili li huma issa jridu jaraw li jkun hemm xi tip ta' kontrol.
Izda meta jigru incidenti bhal dawn ejjew nitolbu lill- Omnna Marija Assunta li tidhol ghal dawn il-vitmin w ghal- familji taghhom
Charles Borg
Aug 15th 2012, 17:58
1. Emanuel Farrugia, int kont membru tal-Kunsill Pastorali Parrokkjali jew tal-Kunsill Lokali?
2. Id-dokument 'Nirrestawraw il-Festi flimkien' mhuwiex in force, ghax ma kienx hemm qbil fuqu u anke nies prominenti fil-pajjiz, nies ta' livell intelletwali kbir hassew li dan id-dokument kien se jaghmel hafna hsara.
3. Ma jfissirx li dan l-incident ikrah huwa sinjal li l-festi qed jigu ccelebrati hazin. Kien hemm incident, bhalma jkun hemm hafna incidenti f'postijiet ohra, bhalma jkun hemm fil-grounds tal-football.
4. Ma jfissirx li ghax kien hemm dan l-incident ifisser li l-Kommunita parrokkjali tal-Gudja mhux qed tghix il-veru valuri insara u t-tifsira tal-festa. Gesu qatt ma kien kontra li wiehed jiccelebra u dan narawh sew fit-Testment il-Gdid u anke l-Qadim. Fejn jidhlu l-istatwi, il-knisja kattolika titkellem car, li dawn hemm posthom fil-Knisja ghax huma mezz ta' venerazzjoni.
5. Jiddispjacini hafna meta nara kummenti bhal dawn. Jidher car li hawn hafna jharsu lejn ir-religjon minn aspett purament spiritwali. Il-Fidi taghna hija sabiha ghax il-fidi titwahhad mal-aspett materjali, kulturali, tangibbli ta' hajjitna. Alla stess sar bniedem biex gie fostna.
Mr Lawrence Calleja
Aug 15th 2012, 14:44
Kaz sfortunat li seta gara f'kull festa. Cilindru tas Co2 jista jinxtara facli minn kulhadd u ghalhekk hemm bzonn nitghalmu inkunu aktar responsabbli meta naghmlu dan it-tip ta' xoghol. Dawn l-affarijiet, minn oggetti ta' pjacir jistaw jissarfu f'incident.
Joseph Gili
Aug 15th 2012, 14:32
Al least all we can do, is to pray for them.
Carmel Camenzuli
Aug 15th 2012, 14:32
Get well soon & God be with you in this hour of need !!!
Jesmond Agius
Aug 15th 2012, 18:04
Get well soon my friend. God be with you always but make also your best in this difficult hour. Hope to hear as soon as possible that you are fine and ok.
S.M. Cuschieri
Aug 15th 2012, 14:31
what is wrong with simply throwing paper out of balconies like we used to do when i was a young girl for pete's sake?? or is technology getting the better or worst of us? we used to have so much fun. i used to spend months cutting up pieces of paper with my grandma. veru spiccajna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Christopher Camilleri
Aug 15th 2012, 14:53
xghandu xjaqsam!
Ms Rudi Mcbeal
Aug 15th 2012, 15:49
I share your feelings and completely agree with you , Ms Cuschieri.
Richard Caruana
Aug 15th 2012, 16:04
At St Paul's Bay this infernal machine was being loaded with water to spray on the revelers.
You're right Mr Cuschieri, though I don't want to go back to my youthful days when they used to fire petards from our back yard in Qormi! Literally.
cesco di luigi
Aug 15th 2012, 16:40
Naqbel 100%> Illum kollox bil-goff u basta storbju.
Andrew Grech
Aug 15th 2012, 17:32
@ Richard Caruana
X'ghadu x'jaqsam rush ta l-ilma ma murtal ?!?!?!?!?
Jesmond Agius
Aug 15th 2012, 18:10
There is something wrong. I am a musician, so I am talking from my own experience. Unfortunately some of the papers that are thrown in the street are aimed to go inside the instrument. Its something that most probably you don't even realize how much damage is created each time a paper goes into one of these instruments. Our instruments cost money and being damaged by something silly is very unfortunate. Moreover, after the march I spend more hours trying to clean this mess created by people like you in order to clean the interior of my instrument. Just try to realize this one thing. I think that no one in the world desires that that some other person throws rubbish inside your homes. So try not to throw rubbish inside our instruments cause they are also part of our home.
R Gatt
Aug 15th 2012, 14:04
Wishing them a speedy recovery
D. Xerri
Aug 15th 2012, 14:01
Mela qabel kellna s-suffarelli waqt il-marc u qtajnihom ghax perikoluzi - issa dahhalna l-magni jisparaw il-karti u mid-dehra perikoluzi wkoll - issa xi jmiss ? .... ghax kieku ghall xi haga hekk taf kemm ghandna invenzjonijiet hux biex nimpikaw u nkunu tal-ewwel...... banda kontra ohra u kazin kontra iehor u ta` fuq u t` isfel u tal-ahmar u tal-blu u tal-ahdar u laqmijiet u titli u titular u parrocca u knisja u bazilika u l-koppla u elf hag`ohra !
liam darmanin
Aug 15th 2012, 16:12
mhux biex nindahal izda dawn li int qijed issejah magni illom jintuaw naqa mhux hazin ,ma nafx jien imma ma jfisirx li andom jinqatu ax gara inciedent. jien il post min fejn jien dejjem imxejna sew u qatt ma kellna inciedenti alura mal hazin ha jehhel it tajjeb ??
!!
Charlie Grech
Aug 15th 2012, 13:09
Prayers go to these 3 men, God Bless
Please choose the reason of your report below: