Five admit Marsaxlokk brawl, fined €60 each

P. Ciantar

Aug 18th 2012, 17:23

at Daniel Orsini apart from these hooligans photos are on the Chicago Tribune- your line of thinking makes me conclude that you condone these things....

c scudi

Aug 16th 2012, 11:41

Daniel Orsini...This was not just a brawl..this was mob rule by people who think that they can come tot he coast and occupy as much land as they can grab and squat there,in their filth for months on end.At the same time excluding anyone else who wants to enjoy a day on the beach...

ALBINO ELLUL

Aug 16th 2012, 04:44

this is what i call the mother of all jokes

Sandro Sammut

Aug 15th 2012, 15:48

hehehheeheheheheh tad dahk!! il vera prosit lil ligijiet ta Malta!! Tal Buzz ta vera!!

l tangg

Aug 15th 2012, 10:56

Dan li gara veru tal-misthija li jinqalaw argumanti mhux xi haga ta'barra minn hawn imma li persuna li turik li ma tridx tiggieled u sempliciment ghax twassal il - messag taghha iduru ghalik hamsa zgur mhux xi haga sabiha. Pero jien u zgur hawn hafna bhali l aktar wihed li skantani hu tal malja sewda fejn f illi kollu dahk u wara li wihed minn dawk il hamsa imbuta lil vittma qabad isawwat lil vittma bla hnina minghajr ma l vittma m ghamilu xejn jekk dak mhux bullying ma nafx x tista tejdlu ahjar!!!!! U jekk m hux sejjer zbal dan wihed li dejjem jideher fuq it- Tv jaghmel xi parti ta xi spettur . Dwar il - kawza ma nafx xgara imma 60euros jekk tara il comments li thallew zgur tinduna il- poplu Malti kif jahsibha dwarhom .

LOUIS JOSEPH BORG

Aug 15th 2012, 09:33

THE WAY THIS MAN IS PUTTING HIS FIST BACKWARDS TO PUNCH SHOWS HE IS NO FIGHTER AT ALL AND HAS NO FIGHTING SKILLS. NO TRAINED FIGHTER WILL PUNCH IN THAT MANNER AND NO FIGHTING ART HAVE THAT TYPE OF PUNCH!

Daniel Orsini

Aug 14th 2012, 19:52

come on guys for god sake, why are you doing all this fuss on this case where noone even know the whole story, you are all making your opinons based on some thing that you only know what you heard of assums. this was an argument that everyone involved even the 'victim' himself admited that it was some thing that could be resolved easlly. there was too mant things and miss understanding that happened in this case but because there was new everybody is trying to push it so high. as i read and heard today that the Authory general should appeal from this sentence. for the sake, if the AG appeal from this case he will have to appeal from all sentences that will be considered as slight. do not forget that the accuse act was about slight injury and swearing in public. and the plaead guilty and the forgivness so what more? you know the benefit of article 29? what can be done more, for me the judge still kept defending the victme by imposing a € 1300 as a personal garantee so this will not happen again. so what you want more? hehe when i see these comments here i will be in doubt if we have the angels running every where in this country because by words every body says what think to show how nice he looks. one have to consider that this was an illigal protest from the start that happened to become a slight fight. SO! are we living in garden of Eden now? come on lets give this theme a break and who ever want to judge others first he try to judge himself.

Elysia Gauci

Aug 14th 2012, 14:53

once they even fined my father for lm25 because the magistrate said cauchi instead of gauci and he didn't stand up...

and these guys went in court with those type of clothes (when police usually send people back home to change in decent clothes) , illegal camping and got into a fight ..for the same amount of money...

seriously? where's justice in this country?

Eddie Vella

Aug 14th 2012, 14:38

tal misthija, biex jgorr arma kemm tehel ghax jien hekk ha nibda naghmel halli jekk jattakani xi hadt jkolli biex nidefendi lili nifsi, La darba ma ghawnx gustizzja ? qisna wild west

Tony Paris

Aug 14th 2012, 11:37

Our Law Courts have turned into better entertainment than Moira Orfei's Circus! SHAME!!!

Adrian Theuma

Aug 14th 2012, 11:30

According to the Maltese law courts a €60 fine is the best deterrent for these men to not repeat the crime! Come on I am sure the Maltese law courts can do better than this! This is insulting!!

Doris Farrugia

Aug 14th 2012, 11:17

I think this funny, awkward sentence is sending just one message to the people:If you feel strong and BULLY enough just make justice yourself if anything arises or else you'll be the loser,being in the right or in the wrong.

Louis F Cassar

Aug 14th 2012, 11:16

From a cost-benefit point of view, it's worth beating the crap out of somebody you dislike for €60!! It's also great for stress relief, and what more does one wish for... it's even sanctioned by the Courts at €60 a head. Shameful for a country that aspires to be a part of civilized Europe... the sort of thing one expects in central Africa!

Mr Raymond S. Vella

Aug 14th 2012, 11:14

Jekk tawh medja ta’ 4 daqqiet kull wiehed allura zommu f’mohhkom li mill lum il quddiem daqqa ta’ ponn tiswa madwar €15 jew 6 liri u nofs. Imbaghad jghidu li l-hajja gholja f’Malta. B’din ir-rata li sejrin, ftit iehor u tigi b’xejn u free for all.

E. De Marco

Aug 14th 2012, 11:07

Hamalli rule.

John Dee

Aug 14th 2012, 10:32

What is the point of giving someone a suspended sentence if it is not activated when the law-breaking continues? Next we'll be fining people a week's supply of coconuts as punishment.
Laughing stock law!

matthew tanti

Aug 14th 2012, 10:31

Itrust the AG will appeal this decision and that the appeal court will be more serious.

Joe Morana

Aug 14th 2012, 10:27

Mhux tat-tined biss marru l- bahar.....

Julian Borg

Aug 14th 2012, 09:24

Prosit Magistrat !!!!!

is there a competent authority to challenge this sentence? can someone try to save face of our courts?

In the presence of the police he threw the coke bottle on the floor.... u veru bully because in a matter of minutes he did ridicule the whole judiciary system

Mr Jamie Frendo

Aug 14th 2012, 09:17

Malta, the only republic in the world where crime DOES PAY, this fine is practically telling everyone that if someone annoys you, you can gang up on them and beat them up because it's cheaper to do this then stay filing a report against them, taking leave to take them to court etc etc.....What a pity and what a shame, mhux ta b'xejn kullhadd jigi jitmellah!

Mr J. Bonnici

Aug 14th 2012, 09:16

The Attorney General should appeal this sentence. It's going to turn the law courts into one hell of a performing circus.

Jason Zammit

Aug 14th 2012, 09:06

Euro 60 - missom wehlu ta dak lilbies li kienu lebsin u jien ax insejt l ingravata fil Karozza kelli nerga immur ghalija......ara veru pajjiz tal Miky Mouse ....il Gustizja Maltija ghada kif tat il Go Ahead lil dawk li iriedu ipatua lil Xi hadd ghax Euro 60 ser tigik ....... Jekk il Garr tieghi iqabizil nifqalu halqu , mux Euro 60 ser tigini

Deo Catania

Aug 14th 2012, 09:01

Vera haqqu prosit il-Magistrat Antonio Micallef Trigona. Tal-misthija.

anthony sultana

Aug 14th 2012, 08:51

That was aggravated assault bodily harm, not just assault,because they were a group of people beating one man.So definitely something wrong with the Maltese politician. Dr Franco Debona is 100 % right.

M Cassar

Aug 14th 2012, 08:47

Eur 60 each and an extension of a suspended sentence?? AND they are allowed to camp on! Please excuse the comment BUT anyone who does not understand WHY the courts are derided must be thick!

Great use of my taxes by the way....their fine should have included all the expenses incurred by the police corps, courts etc....but what the hell....keep the improved pay packages coming and forget about accountability and duty. Lets not blame the archaic law shall we? We are actually paying those who make or change the law but instead are simply encouraging a culture where the law of the jungle reigns supreme. By the way where are the chest thumping big shots from both sides of the political divide who have Malta's best interest at heart? Any comments from them?

Mr Anthony Briffa

Aug 14th 2012, 08:42

Are we serious here in Malta? Is it the law or the court? In my humble opinion how can a violent act like that carry a euro 60 fine? And how is it that somebody who is already on a suspended sentence get off by getting and extension and not made to serve the sentence? After all the individual was found guilty of another crime.

Will the police allow these people to continue to occupy this beach with their tents? As far as I know the regulations are that only umbrellas can be pitched on beaches and they have to be removed by sunset.

As someone has said earlier on this wall, if one has a score to settle with somebody, for euro 60 it is worth to take the law in one's hand.

A Farrugia

Aug 14th 2012, 08:34

Mhux ta b'xejn ghanna hafna bullijiet Malta, penali haqq erba fliexken birra !!!

Daniel Borg

Aug 14th 2012, 08:30

Jail time, community service, and a fat fine..that's what they should have gotten!
What a disgrace to the Maltese.

B. Jones

Aug 14th 2012, 08:23

Well hey, what a great sentence:

Next time I come across a situation where I feel like punching somebody, I will think less....
.....or say 60,- Euro is worth it polishing somebody's face!

Come on! Instead the judge should have charged them additionally for illegal camping!

S. Bonello

Aug 14th 2012, 08:23

Ma nafx min fejn ser nigbruhom iz ziediet tal-magistratura. !!

X'messagg hazin mill-Qorti !!!

U dak tas-sentenza sospiza?

leo briffa

Aug 14th 2012, 08:20

if i'm not mistaken this is the maximum fine offered by our law when one punches someone else, remember when once an ex-policeman was hit by someone in republic street, he was fined 25 Maltese liri (approx 60 euros) so its not the fault of the magistrate but the law. and as someone said its worth hitting your opponent for that price.
no wonder they looked so confident...they already knew what was going to happen. as for the clothes I cannot understand, once I was going in for a parking ticket and just because my suit jacket was open the magistrate was going to fine me.(had to button it completely)
it seems these people were right and not all of us......

J Cassar

Aug 14th 2012, 08:17

Magistrate Antonio Micallef Trigona extended the suspended jail term for Mr Schiavone by another two years. So this man is a relapser and no newcomer to crime?? And you extend his suspended sentence? hmmmm... i thought the whole scope of a suspended sentence was so as not to repeat any crimes? Obviously i was wrong... Let's all go out and beat up people infront of families and kids and set up fine examples of mature adults. This sentencing is an insult to anyone's intelligence. What a joke Malta has become.

Joseph Bugeja

Aug 14th 2012, 08:16

Prosit sirt verament popolari siehbi ghajb ghal Malta gabuk fic Chicago Tribune ta' L - Amerka

Ronnie Callus

Aug 14th 2012, 08:08

Xi hadd jaqbel li din kienet sentenza regjonevoli ?? Taf x'qed tghid il-Magistrat li dawn wehlu daqs li kieku xtraw mobile fejn nahseb anke aktar trid biex ikollok wiehed sew. Jahsbu l-qrati li b'hekk se' jnaqqsu l-abbuzi minn certu nies ?? Jekk mhux se' jghatu pieni aktar horox ghall aghar se' nkomplu sejrin fejn diga qedien nofs triq jekk mhux aktar. Dan xe' ezempju hu ghall generazzjoni li gejja. X'fibra nistghu nibnulhom meta mhemmx pieni misthoqqa ghal min jikser jew jiehu l-ligi b'idejh. Tal-Misthija .

Ivan cachia

Aug 14th 2012, 07:58

Our law courts have become a joke!!! €60 for bullying with one of them committing a crime during the operative period of a suspended jail term!!! Well done to the magistrate for this and for letting these people present themselves in court as if they were off to the beach!!! Had any ordinary citizen done the same he would get a heftier fine for bullying, a fine for inappropriate clothing and anyone with a suspended sentence would have been thrown in jail!!!!! Is this why the magistrates will be given a wage rise off the backs of the tax payer????? On this alone i would reprimand the magistrate himself because this is a gross miscarriage of justice.

Peter Paul Sacco

Aug 14th 2012, 07:55

The police have done their duty but they must surely be disheartend by this ridiculous sentence. Perhaps the courts should issue a tariff - assualting and manhandling one person E60, for 2 you get a discount at E100! Halluna.

Anthony Camilleri

Aug 14th 2012, 07:50

We are unique even in court judgments.Is it real that these settled for a fine of 60 euros? It is more expensive to smoke a cigarette in a bar or to speed up in front of a traffic camera.

Mr Joe Frendo

Aug 14th 2012, 07:48

How much overtime was paid to the court officers to re-open the courts? Was it that necessary to re-open the court for this only? Or the accused made a deal with the Police that they would be pleading guilty if taken to the court in the afternoon, so they don't miss a day from the Camps? Moreover, has this cost us more than the 300 euro sentence given by Magistrate Antonio Micallef Trigona in wages to the court officers, police, etc etc?

Besides entering in flip flops, T-shirts, shorts! ... Is there anyone responsible to take act on this? Where is Franco Debono?

david debattista

Aug 14th 2012, 07:34

Is that the way they went into court ? It really looks like a third world country ! Whats next ,,,,,,,,,

mary borg

Aug 14th 2012, 07:13

€60?? That is degrading for humans! You get a larger fine if you do some harm to a dog! I wouldn't mind punching someone for just €60! And they were camping on some land which isn't theirs!! Is this democracy?And what about entering the law courts in shorts, vests etc?

John Scerri

Aug 14th 2012, 07:00

60euros each. pathetic.

It cost more more to pay the judge, the police , van fuel, clerks , writing up of the case and labour man hours .

A warden or a couple of them could have done the job, maybe fined them more than 60euro.

As for ''swearing in public'' .....If every one caught swearing is fined for this offence it will be the shortest way to eliminate public debt.

Victor Gelfo

Aug 14th 2012, 06:45

Arrogance and crass holiganism seems to pay!

Eric Borg

Aug 14th 2012, 06:22

What scares me is............after seeing these fines for such an offence, is ...the Law abiding citizens might consider taking the law in their hands!!! If this happens, I cannot blame anyone.

The courts should know better.........or should they???

Joseph Sammut

Aug 14th 2012, 05:39

this sentence should be reviewed and contested by the attorney general, one because the fine is ridiculously low and two because in one of the five cases, the person was on a suspended sentence. The AG should also investigate if the camps can indeed be set up and rule to the clearance of these camps with immediate effect.

Noel Cuschieri

Aug 14th 2012, 00:28

This is ridiculous! The judge should resign immediately from his post unless he justifies the amount of the fine!!

Mr Alexander Azzopardi

Aug 14th 2012, 00:05

With these kind of fines I believe that within a few months years Malta will become kinda Dragon ball style

JJ Agius

Aug 14th 2012, 00:05

Kieku kienu Kaccaturi kienu jehlu l- habs!!!
J.J

Anthony Agius

Aug 14th 2012, 00:00

Shame! So if I decide to go punch somebody I dont like I get fined. 60 euro only? My enemies watch out! I

X Borg

Aug 13th 2012, 23:50

Who said crime doesn't pay !

G Falzon

Aug 13th 2012, 23:41

The magistrate "extended the suspended jail term .......... by another two years". This is unheard of! Ridiculous! The accused admitted to committing the crime during the operative period of a suspended jail term. This should have made the suspended jail term immediately operative and never extended!

"The court was told that Mr Haber had forgiven them" and all the accused admitted (legal farce) ---- this concoction brought about the ridiculous sentence because our courts tend to go by the book.

Alexander Pace

Aug 13th 2012, 23:36

What kind of a justice system is this? EUR 60 for harassing, punching, swearing, breaking peace, etc....EUR 60...wow, I am sure these people will think twice before doing this again......This is really disgusting. Bloody bullies. And it looks like they bullied themselves from our justice system. Very sad. Very sad indeed.

Andrea Damato

Aug 13th 2012, 23:29

Then when a trapper is caught trapping illegally ( and mind you i am not justifiying illegal trapping ), he is fined not less than 400 ewro for the first offence!!!

Just to make comparisons and to highlight how are the priorities in this country !!!

Alfred Falzon

Aug 13th 2012, 23:13

This sentence questions whether the proposed govt increase to the judiciary is all worth it. It is cheaper (for the state) to let someone take things in his own hand and get fined Euros60 than have real justice. Shame, shame and shame.

Mr C Camilleri

Aug 13th 2012, 22:49

Ma certu nies bil-kelma t-tajba ma tistax tasalx ghax l-unika lingwa li jafu huwa dagha u kliem tal-ponnijiet u saqajn !

Nixtieq inkun naf ghalfejn qed jitbissem dak il-guvni ta wara ? Hemm xi haga tat-tbissim f'dan kollu ?

Christopher Ellul

Aug 13th 2012, 22:46

what a farce....once when i had a case at the local council courts, a guy next to me came without the suit and the judge made him go home and wear properly....and these five thugs....they came straight from the beach to court and all they get is a 60 euro fine...this is such a farce ! All i ask after all this...are the campsites still there ? because if so, these so called guardians of the law are enjoying seeing the law being broken !!!

Tony Camilleri

Aug 13th 2012, 22:41

WHAT A JOKE

A Sciberras

Aug 13th 2012, 22:27

And most probably this eveining they're having a party, celebrating their victory and making a mockery of our justice system !

Mark Muscat

Aug 13th 2012, 22:20

I'm ashamed to be Maltese when I see and hear such things!ignorance and attitude reign as always.

A Tonna

Aug 13th 2012, 21:51

Today is one of those times that I really feel disgusted and ashamed that I am Maltese. This is at least shameful of our society and of our courts. With their decisions and sentences, the Maltese courts are urging criminals to do more crimes. The evidence could not be clearer. One also had a suspended sentence!

And how come the courts allowed them to make fun of the courts in front of the camera? And how come they were allowed to go in the court wearing bermudas, vests and flip-flops?? What a disgrace!

Are the courts sending us law abiding citizens a message ?

brian grech

Aug 13th 2012, 21:48

What a shame on our judiciary!!!!!!Their dress code fits perfectly with it!

Mr raynond ciancio

Aug 13th 2012, 21:44

that's really brilliant that, 60 euros, how ridiculous can you get, i was fined 200 euro for for not turning up in court for a vat sitting, (disprezz tal qorti) disrespect to the court they called it, veru pajjiz tal mickey mouse.

frank xerri de caro

Aug 13th 2012, 21:37

WHAT A FARCE. WHAT A SHAME. NO WORDS CAN BE STRONG ENOUGH TO SHOW HOW LOW WE CAN GO

Eric Camilleri (Q)

Aug 13th 2012, 21:13

The caption to this farce should symbolically be "No Comment".

L Zammit

Aug 13th 2012, 21:12

A shameful sentence. Something must be done to correct this farce.

Ruben Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 21:12

But wait... They have been punished severly by the authorities... MEPA issued an enforcment notice to remove their tents (the best part is this!!) BY NO LONGER THAN 16 DAYS!! Means... they can keep enjoying their camping till the end of August. WOW!! Banana Republic!!!

Mr Peter Paul Portelli

Aug 13th 2012, 21:08

....u jekk tinqabad tonsob tehel 500 euro...milinqas..... very well done courts of (in)justice!!!!!!

Joe Mallia

Aug 13th 2012, 21:04

Why isn't anyone wearing a suit. You get fined for entering a courtroom without one. And being prosecuted under arrest is no excuse. Their family's could have easily got them one at the depot. What a farce!

Alfie Lewis

Aug 13th 2012, 21:02

EXCUSE ME BUT CAN THE ATT. GENERAL OBJEST TO THIS DECISION?

j brincat

Aug 13th 2012, 21:01

It could be so funny, were it not so sad.

Who getting pay rise?



(jb)

John Spiteri

Aug 13th 2012, 21:00

I doubt that the fines even covered the cost of the law courts, the police van and the policemen who brought them to court.
Ridiculous! How can we be expected to have respect for the judiciary?

W Cassar

Aug 13th 2012, 20:55

60euros... whats that in old Maltese money Lm20? LOL What a joke!

Etienne Galea

Aug 13th 2012, 20:39

mela issa immur nikampja l-ghadira. Min jigi jkelimni infajarlu 2 fix-xedaq, nehel 60 euros, tigi irhas min weekend break u nibqa ikkampjat. Thank you tal-precedent.

Joseph D Borg

Aug 13th 2012, 20:36

What a joke...... so if you don't pay the vat you go to jail but if you punch someone you be find 60 euros

Alfie Lewis

Aug 13th 2012, 20:33

I6 DAYS TO DISMANTLE THE TENTS . i CAN DO IT IN 5 MINUTES. a biggg DISGRACE

V Caruana

Aug 13th 2012, 20:32

Interessanti l-ilbies tal-akkużati, Daħlu l-qorti bix-xorts, flixkun tal-coca (drink) u flip flops. Jista jkun li kien hemm ftehim ta' ħbiberija bejn il-pulizija, il-qorti u l-akkużati biex jammettu u barra bid-daqq. Dan wara li l-vittma ħaffrilhom.
The funniest of them all is "Magistrate Antonio Micallef Trigona extended the suspended jail term for Mr Schiavone by another two years." Why on hell is a suspended jail term sentence given in the first place as this is unacted?
BDW this photo shall be the winner as "the Photo of the Year". you get my points

Charles Caruana Carabez

Aug 13th 2012, 20:21

People could be heard on the video calling the accused 'purcinelli' (clowns). The authorities put on a 'tejatrin' (show). If people who behave like this aren't made to say 'ouch', they will make others say it. Clearly, though, these chaps do have power of a sort. Equally clearly, decent people don't have it. They have won a resounding victory. Well done all round.

R Abela

Aug 13th 2012, 20:17

U jekk taljena ftit rasek u taqbez il-limitu ta' xi speed camera tehel 70 ewro!!! Tal-biki!!!

Charles Micallef

Aug 13th 2012, 20:11

€60 fine will not deter anyone, it will actually encourage others to use unwarranted violence against anyone who dares to stand up to these bullies!

carmel callus

Aug 13th 2012, 20:08

Magistrate Micallef Trigona, shame, shame on you. €60 only? Again shame on you!

DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,

Aug 13th 2012, 20:05

U llejla jiddiehqu u jieklu l-fenek u jgharqu s-simbolu tas- €60..............................& then that poor victim who has no money to pay the vat fines or is paying them in intervals and the Registrar of Courts pushes on for their incarceration....................these same individuals will one day taste their own medicine !!

Victor Pulis

Aug 13th 2012, 20:03

It is official now if we needed any more proof. We, the law abiding citizens are on our own.Those who can't take the law into their own hands and defend themselves have no protection either from the police or from the supposed law courts. By the way. What is the fine for not micro chipping your dog?

Mary Fisher

Aug 13th 2012, 19:54

WHERE IS FRANCO DEBONO TODAY? THIS HAS REALLY PUT THE MALTESE COURTS ON THE MOST RIDICULOUS STAND IN EUROPE. TODAY'S FARCE COULD HAVE WON MALTA A GOLD MEDAL IN THE 'FUNNY OLYMPICS'. THEY ADMIT WHAT THEY DID BUT COULD THEY DO OTHERWISE WITH ALL TH FOOTAGE COVERING THE STUPID GOINGS ON? IT JUST IS NOT FAIR AT ALL, AT ALL,
AT ALL. HOPE THE MAGISTRATE THAT OVERLOOKED THIS FARCE GETS AN INSTANT INCREASE IN HIS WAGES !!!!!!!

Mr John Agius

Aug 13th 2012, 19:53

60 euros is the cost of renting a furnished tent for 2 adults (2 nights) at a campsite! They saved money. Justice? What justice?

Victor Pulis

Aug 13th 2012, 19:53

Arriva drivers are fined if they don't wear a tie while driving! No more comments.

J Abela

Aug 13th 2012, 19:49

Perfect shot of the photo displayed above. Hat off to the photographer..

Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO

Aug 13th 2012, 19:46

While condemning the bullying and violence unreservedly one has to ask whether this is the first time the illegal campers have used this beach site. I suspect that enforcement should have taken place summers ago. One also asks who should have been responsible for such enforcement and failed in his duty : is it MEPA , the Tourist Board, The Health Dept or the police. We seem to act only when incidents arise or when ordinary citizens are forced to take action which falls under the responsibility of the authorities. Another problem in such issues is that you cannot focus on the weakest whose only possible holiday is squatting and ignore all the other abusers who are spoiling and polluting some of our most beautiful beaches. There was some time ago a policy to construct official managed camping sites. This policy should be extended and those who cannot afford it should be given the opportunity of using such official camping sites at subsidized prices.

A. Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 19:44

Disprezz ghall qorti minhabba l ilbies xejn??Insomma wara s sentenza ta sittin ewro kemm se jaqbad iwahallhom ?? Ftit centezmi??

Philip Grech

Aug 13th 2012, 19:44

U tad-dagha quddiem il-qorti fil-prezenza tal-pulizija ,kemm wehlu (ara u isma fid-19 il-sekonda).

Charles Zammit

Aug 13th 2012, 19:43

What a huge FARCE the law courts are I was just about to say ours , but they surely are not mine , pray they stay so !!

Franco Farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 19:39

U hekk thallew jidhlu l-Qorti, dawn????????????????????????

B. Theuma

Aug 13th 2012, 19:38

Tal-misthija !

Mr Mark-Anthony Falzon

Aug 13th 2012, 19:36

Five go off in a caravan; Five go off to camp; Five get into trouble; Five have a wonderful time; Five go down to the sea; Five are together again.

(Apologies to the memory of Enid Blyton.)

F. Azzopardi

Aug 13th 2012, 19:35

Bis-serjeta jew qed naqra hazin? Eur60?! Prosit hej

N Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 19:35

Yet taxpayers are expected to pay €12,000 per annum for each Magistrate & Judge over the coming 3 years for such outcomes! Proset!

Barney Camilleri

Aug 13th 2012, 19:32

My, my!
Some time back when we were under different times. We used to enter the Law courts with a jacket, if we did not have one we rented it, shirt and tie and long pants.
Seeing these fine breed of gentlemen entering the law courts with flip-flops, t-shirts, and shorts I assumed they will get a fine of 60 euro for contempt of court, before the court even open to hear the case.
Only in Malta!

M Mazzitelli

Aug 13th 2012, 19:32

usual "imbarazz" . there is nothing more but learn to live with them. ie the rest of society has to shut up and ignore them hux - this is not something new

the best part is: "The court was told that Mr Haber had forgiven them." mhux ovja as he is scared from these kind of people? who would want to be meeting them in court again and again?

Also - "He also warned all the accused not to approach or harass the victim" - and if they do? what happens? susspended sentence? so what do they care?

Carmel De Gabriele

Aug 13th 2012, 19:31

JUST PROVED TO THE PUBLIC THAT JUSTICE IS BLIND!

T. Aquilina

Aug 13th 2012, 19:29

The message is loud and clear. We must all be feeling very safe and protected from any future bullying behaviour - Not.

H. Galea (NRK)

Aug 13th 2012, 19:29

May we know whether the authorities concerned are fully satisfied that justice has been served ? May the sentence be considered to serve as a deterrent to similar gentlemen ? Does the general public deserve to know whether some areas of the current 'law' system happen to be in dire need of a proper update ?

Paul A Vella

Aug 13th 2012, 19:28

Someone had compared Malta to a Mickey Mouse country in the past...guess nothing has really changed except that the law courts and the way the sentences and justice are meted out have absolutely no ratio or measure by which it is calculated. Do the judges/magistrates know the laws of this fair land? I very much doubt it. Of course, Mr Haber forgave his aggressor...does he really have a choice when he as a law abiding citizen does not get the protection we all deserve from persons like these.

E Lentini

Aug 13th 2012, 19:26

I think that doesn't even cover the expenses involved to bring these to courts. That means that we tax payers will be paying the rest. We are living in the jungle and thing will get better now that our courts are making things very clear.

anthony sultana

Aug 13th 2012, 19:21

We should organize a protest against the so many crimes happening in Malta.

MALCOLM SEYCHELL

Aug 13th 2012, 19:20

and the prime minister wants to increase the salary of judges?

Silvan Said

Aug 13th 2012, 19:19

Since when are accused persons allowed to turn up in court dressed as if they just came from the beach?

What a mockery of justice! they are allowed in court dressed like that and fined a paltry 60 euros!

Nicholas Grech

Aug 13th 2012, 19:16

You get a higher fine for speeding, these people deserve worse than a 60euro fine!!!

Ethelbert Schembri

Aug 13th 2012, 19:15

The famous Maltese courts of justice made it again !!!

This is the proof that we are living in a jungle state, where the authorities and all those that hold a minimum of power can do whatever they want and they are even protected by the system. With sentences like these they are promoting violence, yet if they catch you with some weed they throw you in jail for 10 years !!!!!!

stephen cremona

Aug 13th 2012, 19:15

do you know what trauma that person went trough. five angry persons chasing him . what if he fell, knocked unconscious or suffered a disability. do we always have to wait for a tragedy to happen, for the justice system to change. an animal is more protected than a human being. with this fine, only encouragement to law breakers is given.

A. Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 19:14

How ridiculous. So in my previous predictions I fared worse of my expectations. €60??!! A round of beer amongst friends will work out costlier. Crime is cheap!!

Kurt Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 19:13

Taking your dog on a beach - €4,500

Taking matters in own hands, punching and bullying a person - €60

N. Agius

Aug 13th 2012, 19:08

simply ridiculous.... this is 25 maltese liri .. u ejja.. something is very very wrong! This was a good opportunity to give the right message that violence is simply unacceptable................

A Cachia

Aug 13th 2012, 19:07

Joking aside......at least they could have added another 60 hours community work!!!


Since they are fit to throw a punch or two.....they are fit to help out!!

Keith D'Amato

Aug 13th 2012, 19:05

haha its less than a speeding ticket.

Anthony A. Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 19:05

What a show!
€60 biss, it's doesn't justify the marshall extra pay.
Not taking ino count the A/C , police , clakes , police van. Every thing counts, and how about , for blaspheming in public ghalik Xejn ,one can hear it on the news....
Ninu

Joseph N. Attard

Aug 13th 2012, 19:05

Has the magistrate been shown the photo above? As long as the courts remain what they are, justice will remain in the sorry state that it is in. And Neanderthal Man will be with us for a long time. One can only hope that the Attorney General appeals the sentence.

M. Tabone

Aug 13th 2012, 19:04

How come only €60?
I'm pretty sure that if it was a case regarding animal abuse, they would be fined much more!
Can we call this justice?
They've hurt him... not only physically, but also psychologically.. And they are only fined €60. And what about the one on a suspended jail term?
How come they took over the beach, and after, they injure a guy, and swear in public? Is this justice?
The public wants to know if they were ordered to evacuate the beach, since it is a public one?
It looks like they were fined just to keep mouths shut... but this only adds insult to the injury.
What justice is this with this poor victim?

D Fenech

Aug 13th 2012, 19:04

Did we not have a similar incident in St. Julians a few days ago where the victim ended up dead. The victim here had to run for his life so he can consider himself lucky. The photo clearly shows that he is being choked and at the same time the victim is not reacting.
Where is the Attorney General, the chief justice, and the minister of justice.
Who is the law courts protecting here. The criminal or the victim. No wonder he forgave them. For sixty euros they will be back. One of them is even on a suspended sentence but that didn't even deter him.
I just spent more than 60euros refilling my car.

Christine Farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 19:02

the fine is less than a car contravention!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Cachia

Aug 13th 2012, 19:02

Are you telling me I can beat someone and get off with a 60 Euro fine?

Some people are worth beating for even more!! :)

Peter Bonnici

Aug 13th 2012, 19:00

So what happens now? Do ordinary citizens regain the right to use the beach, or shan't we expect a court ruling before 2018?

Brian Xuereb

Aug 13th 2012, 19:00

What if honor Magistrate Antonio Micallef Trigona had been punched by these men, would the sentence have been the same? Oh, I think not! Justice...

ALBERT FENECH

Aug 13th 2012, 18:58

Sixty euros ....... the price of a carton-and-a-half of cigarettes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This sentence is even WORSE than the actual crime committed itself. What about the other charges for swearing, blaspheming, illegal occupation etc? What a shameful outcome and an incentive to use violence when things aren't going your way. It's 2012 and these islands remain in the hands of political and civil bullies. Independence indeed.

ALBERT FENECH

Clinton Farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 18:57

Imbaghad wiehed jinzel fil-pitch tal-futbol jifrah mall-plejers tieghu u jehel €90 multa u erbgha xhur ma jidholx ground....tad-dahq jew tal-biki?!

Paul Borg

Aug 13th 2012, 18:57

Those who are disgusted by the inaction of the authority should find some sort of camp and go camping at Ghadira bay in protest. then we,ll see if we are treated differently.

T.F. Busuttil

Aug 13th 2012, 18:56

so the Courts are getting €300.
the expence of calling police yesterday, police and court charges of today they costed much more.
I am sure their lawyer got more than double that.

Mario Tabone

Aug 13th 2012, 18:55

The worst thing is not the 60 euro fine because at the end of the day a court has parameters to work to and until these are changed we either like it or lump it.
What worries me is the fact that at least one of these thugs was already on a suspended prison sentence and he violated that . He should have been sent down to serve his time for the previous and this offence.
This could have been a murder and a clear message should have been sent out by the court that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated. Just because the victim got away with slight injuries and it is said he had forgiven them should not come into the equation. I wonder what would have been said if the victim had been somebody who just happened to be carrying a knife and fought back? Would he have been taken to court as well I ask ?

cesco di luigi

Aug 13th 2012, 18:54

Gosh! These guys will have to work the rest of their life to pay the fine. it's terrible.

Franco Attard Trevisan

Aug 13th 2012, 18:53

good to know it's only a €60 fine if you punch someone......

James Dewar

Aug 13th 2012, 18:44

Suspended jail term further extended! How many and what types of crimes would he have to commit before the "suspended" sentence becomes live and converted into custody? I think that the picture confirms that their actions merited more severe punishment and given their violent and agressive conduct they have been treated extremely leniently.

Joihn Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 18:44

This is nothing but a very bad joke, . Are we supposed to lough or cry?????

Francis Saliba M.D.

Aug 13th 2012, 18:42

No wonder violence prevails!

A. Farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 18:38

Does not the Court have the power to ban them from going to Marsaxlokk?
After all they have already shown they are bullies by assaulting one of the residents in this way.
This is just a slap on the wrist... laughable.

Carmel Ellul

Aug 13th 2012, 18:37

The attorney general should appeal!
This is plain stupid , the judge should justify his decision, and if the law is shown to be the reason for his decision , then the system is a big nonsense.

A Dimech

Aug 13th 2012, 18:37

60Euros?!!

what justice is this?!!

if justice does not bite than there will be no deterant

GL Calleja

Aug 13th 2012, 18:37

OOps! Did the judge forget to tell these thugs that they cannot camp on the beach at Marsaxlokk any more? What are the people of Marsaxlokk going to do if they show up on their beach next weekend? . What is Magistrate Antonio Micallef Trigona going to do about the ghetto and the mess they create on the beach. Maybe he figures that if it is not happening in front of your house, then it is OK. The Mayor and Local Council of Marsaxlokk have every right to protect their beach and keep the rif raf out. It is about time for somebody to step up to the plate. Very disappointed in the court's decision. Nobody puts his hands up to my throat and get away with it. €60??

Michael Sammut

Aug 13th 2012, 18:37

A very wrong message has been sent out there....

carlos ellul

Aug 13th 2012, 18:37

The price of a lunch. What a joke!

brian farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 18:30

This violence is completely unacceptable, they could have easily killed the person. What would they have said then? Sorry we made a mistake.

Michael Sammut

Aug 13th 2012, 18:28

Simply....unbelievable!!!

brian farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 18:27

60 euros only is insulting to the courts, and law abiding citizens, now they should be ordered to remove these camps and the same goes for the camps at Qajjenza and Birzebbugia.

Darren J. Galea

Aug 13th 2012, 18:24

Comforting to know that if I get beaten up by 5 thugs, our illustrious lawmakers will mete out a punishment that will deter them from a repeat performance in future.

Peter Agius

Aug 13th 2012, 18:24

I would not give 60 Euros to my teenage child as pocket money, let alone consider them as a fine for assault and bodily harm. And then they are bewildered when some Joe Citizen takes the law in his own hands.

Mr John Agius

Aug 13th 2012, 18:23

60 euros???? They must think it was worth it. What about the illegal camping? Another 60 euros?
So if my calculations are correct, punching 4 people would equate to a fine for smoking inside a bar (240euros) for example. Would someone pls verify this? This is a joke.

anthony sultana

Aug 13th 2012, 18:22

Today it is a dark day for Malta,something serious like they did, and get away with a 60 euros fine,recently we had a man that was killed from beaten, this guy could have the same fate if he didn't run .Someone is responsible for our safety, or we don"t have no body to protect us.

Francesca Abela

Aug 13th 2012, 18:21

60 Euros for assault?? Did they also get fined for obstructing a public beach with tents and caravans which is also against the law?? Have they been made to remove their unsightly tents and caravans from occupying a public sandy beach when it is against the law to camp on public beaches?? Where is MEPA in all this?

A M Bonello

Aug 13th 2012, 18:19

Firstly I think that the above photo definitely deserves the photo journalist award pic of the year.

Secondly were they not banned from going to the beach?

why were they not fined for not wearing a tie and decent clothing?

joseph green

Aug 13th 2012, 18:19

NISPERA LI ZGUMBRAW DAWK IL PASTAZATI TA KAMPIJIET LI HALLEW FIL BAJJA , HALLI GHADA INKUN NISTA IMMUR NIXXEMEX FIHA , IMMA AHJAR LE GHAX NAQLA XI DAQQA TA PON.

GUSTIZZJA LI MARRET IL BAHAR , TAL MISTHIJA.

Moira Heath

Aug 13th 2012, 18:18

Deal of the Day!!
€60 only -punch that person you hate and then admit it in court.


Next week- punch 3 for the price of 2

Ms. P.M Graham

Aug 13th 2012, 18:17

With punishments like this it is absolutely no wonder why the youths of today think they can get away with anything. They see their fathers and grandfathers behave like this, therefore they behave likewise.

Carmel camilleri

Aug 13th 2012, 18:16

The sentence is a signal to the accused to repeat this barbarous crime. Bearing in mind the silliness of the penalty one should be prepared how to defend himself.
Here is an example where the whole system of penalties should be revised. Shame

C Pace

Aug 13th 2012, 18:16

Anarchy at its best . No wonder we are experiencing the worse brain drain in history. Who the heck wants to live in this mess.

Toni Borg

Aug 13th 2012, 18:15

Mepa and who ever is responsible should clean up the area not only from the rubbish but also from these campers!

J Caruana

Aug 13th 2012, 18:10

60 euros biss? Tal misthija!!

Claire Busuttil

Aug 13th 2012, 18:09

u dawn kif marru il qorti bis shorts??????

Claire Busuttil

Aug 13th 2012, 18:08

not enough!

Alfred Falzon

Aug 13th 2012, 18:07

With all due respect such fines do not reflect the gravity of the case nor does it discourage Joe citizen from following suite. Could the charge sheet be the cause for such a light sentence?

Jeffrey Mallia

Aug 13th 2012, 18:05

Geeeeeee.......and they where fined 60 Euro to add insult to injury..............shame on the law courts......that's why this island is in the deepest pits.

Peter Murray

Aug 13th 2012, 18:04

Wow .What a deterrent.-60 whole euros each.That'll teach them hey and make them think about repeating such an act won't it?

Edmond Micallef

Aug 13th 2012, 18:03

This country is in shambles. Poor law abiding citizens that we are.
€60 fine is but an insult to all peace loving, civilized human beings.
What a joke of a justice system.

Ray Buhagiar

Aug 13th 2012, 18:02

Branding Malta

Manny Debono

Aug 13th 2012, 18:00

So the camps stay ?

C Cassar

Aug 13th 2012, 18:00

€60, is this some kind of joke. The sentence should have been a minimum of 3 months in jail plus a fine of €5000 each.

E. Vassallo

Aug 13th 2012, 17:58

Well, you get fined more by smoking a cigarette inside a public premises than bashing one's head. What a shame of a sentence!!!!!

Jeffrey Mallia

Aug 13th 2012, 17:46

How dare they were allowed in court in shorts,Tee shirts and with a bottle of coke .......Once I was fined 25 Liri for wearing a suede jacket myself........It seems that bullies rule on this rock......shame

Ms Rudi Mcbeal

Aug 13th 2012, 17:36

Why are they allowed to go in to the court building dressed like that, including the group who entered after them?

I weep for my country.

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Aug 13th 2012, 17:35

This incident is all the fault of MEPA and the government who do absolutely nothing to protect our natural and historical environment until there is a puboic outcry. This beach should never have been allowed to become a camping site with all its degrading consequences. Next step will be to turn into a shanty town with both the PN's and LP's secret blessing.
By the way, I drove through Birgu yesterday and could not belive my eyes: one of those giant posters set up right in the middle of one of the historic gates, covering the central arch and the painting within the arch. Those who set it up are nothing less than barbarians and the party whose poster it is just shows what it thinks of our historical heritage. Imagine doing the same thing in front of the Arch de Triomphe or Marble Arch! Barbarians!

Sandra Camilleri

Aug 13th 2012, 17:32

Stop blaming PN or PL - this is NOT a political issue

D. Xerri

Aug 13th 2012, 17:31

Mela l-Qorti tista tidhol bis-shorts u bit-T-shirt issa u bil-Karkur :~)??

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Aug 13th 2012, 17:28

What I saw on the Tv news yesterday was horrific. I just hope that this time the Magistrate throws the book at them - no excuses.

A. MICALLEF

Aug 13th 2012, 17:20

Same bullies in Armier shanty town and other shanty towns in the best beaches in Malta, FULLY
SUPPORTED AND BACKED BY PARTIT NAZZJONALISTA AND PARTIT MOVIMENT LABURISTA .

A. Farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 17:20

I don't know anybody in that incident but that lone protester has my sympathy and support.
Violence should not be condoned - that's not the society I wish to be part of, and as a citizen I want to say this very clearly.

Jason Zammit

Aug 13th 2012, 17:18

issa xser jigri ????? Just a clear Picture of what happened and who the people are ......... whilst awaiting the court reply i thank everyone for your time :)

Mr Adrian Zahra

Aug 13th 2012, 17:17

Interesting to know if these campers "squatters" are still on site. Dumping their rubbish and human excrements all over the place. By the way a similar situation in gradually sprouting in Dellimara and at il Kalanka.

Paul Gauci

Aug 13th 2012, 17:15

Well as usual they will be 'conditionally discharged', given a 'suspended sentence' or fined 50 euros breaking public peace.

In the meantime I bet the campers are still all camped at il-Maghluq.

Franco Farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 17:11

And notice the bullies in the photo - two men, if not more, against one! That's what these guys should think about! What another sad day for Malta!

ALBERT FENECH

Aug 13th 2012, 17:10

The whole spectacle was simply disgraceful and amounted to bullying and violent assault. In addition, are there no laws against squatting, illegal occupation of the national foreshore, causing pollution for not having adequate and hygienic sanitary facilities, an illegal assembly of a number of persons (attruppament), more probably than not swearing and blaspheming in public, swearing and blaspheming in front of minors and quite probably a few more illegalities than I can currently think of. The full force of the law should be thrown against such disgraceful law breakers and flouters.

ALBERT FENECH

Franco Farrugia

Aug 13th 2012, 17:00

And look at that 'youngster' in the background looking on, smiling! What a bleak future for this country! No wonder the 'right' young people are leaving this country in droves!

frank xerri de caro

Aug 13th 2012, 16:56

Ok good. But now I hope that whoever broke the law of the country are punished and not just let off as if nothing happened

Ramon Mangion

Aug 13th 2012, 16:54

Vera sirna pajjiz fejn kullhadd irid jiehu ligi b'idejh... l-aqwa li nlestu l-ponn..

A. Mifsud

Aug 13th 2012, 16:52

A free for all run by certain people. Whoever dares to speak up gets intimidated. by thugs. We all know what's next ... "liberati fuq kundizzjoni li ma jghamlux reat iehor fi zmien.... bla bla bla"

Charles J. Buttigieg

Aug 13th 2012, 16:50

Jekk li squatters ta l-Armier u postijiet ohra jithallew igawdu l-frott ta l-art li serqu allura l-campers go Marsaxlokk huma children of a lesser God?

Pippo De Marco

Aug 13th 2012, 16:39

If one picture says a thousand words, then this sequence speaks volumes.

Hopefully, the Courts will clamp down on such obscene and selfish behaviour ... But If recent cases are any guide, then I won't hold my breath.

Abigail Bugeja

Aug 13th 2012, 16:39

Simply Disgusting!! Who do they think they are!!

joseph green

Aug 13th 2012, 16:38

Fejn kienu il pulizija ? Generalment jekk kienet protesta ufficjali suppost kellhom ikunu prezenti.