Labour has not changed, PM warns
Labour had not changed and it still operated on two weights, two measures, Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi warned this morning.
Speaking during an interview on Radio 101, Dr Gonzi spoke on his party’s track record in job creation, insisting that the PN govenrment had created 20,000 jobs in the past four years.
This, he said, was proved by several local and EU reports and it was only the Labour opposition that was saying otherwise.
The Prime Minister said that throughout the years, the PN had always been the party capable of creating employment, and this not through the creation of employment corps.
The PN had modernised the country, making it attractive to the private sector to encourage it to invest.
On the other hand, Labour governments had put off investors and this was not just in the 1970s and 1980s but also in the 22 months of Alfred Sant's government.
Dr Gonzi also focused on education and mentioned the campus set up in Malta by Middlesex University some days ago which will be giving IT courses.
He noted that 82 per cent of students were opting to continue studying after secondary education. Although this figure had to be further improved, Malta had reached its aim to surpass the 80 per cent mark. He noted that 20,000 students had graduated in the past four years.
Malta, he said, was successful in the financial sector and it was looking to the future, seeking to identify the sectors where it could continue to grow.
One such sector was that of digital gaming, another was bio medicine.
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Kenneth Bezzina
Aug 6th 2012, 11:14
and @Mr. Bonello Even if those were introduced by PL, at least the PN did not remove them
victor bonello
Aug 6th 2012, 12:29
@ kenneth bezzina, no they were not removed, but the problem is will Malta be able to afford to pay these to others after you? What some of you younger generation have failed to understand so far is not what am i getting to day, but will be there for my children?
The PN have been lavishly spending or rather overspending depleting the Maltese resources.This is why us older generation are worried and want a change.
The cost of living has escalated and the wages and salaries have remained the same.. try using your 147 euro to do some shopping and surprise your parents with a contribution to the up keep.. You will understand why we want a change..
Kenneth Bezzina
Aug 7th 2012, 14:08
Mr. Bonello. I want you to answer this honestly now. Compared to other countries including but not limited to Spain, Greece, France and even USA, do you think that our country's economy is in a bad position? At the very least, PN has provided a plan of action, while the PL waits and sees
Paul Borg
Aug 6th 2012, 07:47
The PM is correct. LP will not change. But the fact is that we do not want the PL values to change. PL was and will be the Champion of the middle to lower class Malta, unlike the PN taking care of the core friends only and making sure they excert their muscle to put forward a false picture on a bought media. The time has come to move on Dr Gonzi. You are the problem of the PN !!!
Kenneth Bezzina
Aug 6th 2012, 08:43
The champion of the middle to lower class?
Like the students, whose stipends were removed and who were forced to take out loans?
Paul Cassar
Aug 6th 2012, 09:14
But Kenneth................are you so single minded to say such things when it was labour who introduced free
schooling up to univ. and who introduced student allowances..................................the last PM to REDUCE
STUDENT ALLOWANCES WAS Dr Gonzi.......
victor bonello
Aug 6th 2012, 10:51
@ Kenneth Bezzina; like the people that got pensions, like the people that got free schooling, like the people that got free medical services etc etc etc...
Kenneth Bezzina
Aug 6th 2012, 11:13
All I can say that under the PN, i receive €147 a month at university. Under Everest Bartolo, the stipends were removed.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 6th 2012, 12:25
Kenneth Bezzina: Using your logic, then I can say that GonziPN will remove pensions and other social services which were introduced by labour. And which the PN had voted against in parliament ! Don't be stupid. Dr. Muscat has GUARANTEED that stipends will remain !
Kenneth Bezzina
Aug 6th 2012, 14:18
Mr. Privitera
One thing that we can agree on is that what's promised and what's given is usually not the same. (I'm talking here about both parties)
Eddy Privitera
Aug 6th 2012, 20:13
Kenneth Bezzina: You can't say that Dr. Joseoh Muscat has not delivered what he has promised, since he has not been a prime minister as yet !
Kenneth Bezzina
Aug 7th 2012, 14:06
I can say that he changed his stance about something 180 degrees. (EU entry)
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Emanuel Farrugia
Aug 6th 2012, 07:45
Dear Prime Minister, you can fool some of the people all the time, or you can fool all of the people, some of the time, but the people have already shown you in 2008 that YOU or your Oligarchy cannot fool ALL of the people, ALL of the time.
Time will now tell, sometime in 2013, if the people are still ALL fools or only some of them.
G Tonna
Aug 6th 2012, 03:21
Mintoff's legacy to the Labour party will continue to hound it for many more years especially when you get so many of Mintoff's stalwarts still so active within the party.
victor bonello
Aug 6th 2012, 10:54
Mintoff was the one that pulled the Maltese workmen from the gutter and made them men, not burden animals.
Mintoff made the Maltese what they are to day, a Nation. Yes we did have some unhappy days, but that was because Mintoff had lost his grip on the party, in the same way Gonzi has to day.
Brendan Zerafa
Aug 6th 2012, 02:34
"He noted that 82 per cent of students were opting to continue studying after secondary education."
Kemm minn dawn l-istudenti jidhlu l-MCAST fuq foundation course li jirrepeti dak li jkunu ghamlu fis-sekondarja? U mill-liema skejjel huma l-bulk ta dawn l-istudenti? Gonzi jghid nofs kliem.
John Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 23:29
@Joe Fenech "Malta will be another Greece and then people will blame PL for it!"..Hope not...but Yes bloody right...I will blame not the PL but Joseph Muscat.
Joseph Buhagiar
Aug 5th 2012, 23:19
Malta is a Gem really. Its natural environment is ideal for making big jumps and leaps foward in the marine industry. Any Goverment should have a close look at Palma. To capture a share of this market is not difficult at all and it is a lucrative business.
Alfred Sant was right too, Malta can be a Swizerland in the Middle of the Med.
Mintoff did his bit too since I remember shoving his Air Malta idea as being preeseptuous. Yet we have an absolutely clean aviation record which we need to be proud off.
My point is that all leaders have contributed and did theior best for Malta, I am sure if that,
Issue now is that the NP have been there for years and although I have given the NP my support many times in elections, I cannot see how we can trust you further.
I had heard you and what you had to say on TV during the last days of the last election.
I cannot see how I am going to believe what you have to say next.
Honestly, you have to come up with something better. And you had better keep away from TV any of those that should have resigned, cause so much has been said and disclosed recetky that all of Malta is aware, even though some news papers tend to ignor the manay repeated instances of such practices.
Do you rrealise how many good people have been put to the wayside to survive.
Michael Sammut
Aug 5th 2012, 22:41
I sit calmly on the fence (literally) and observe. Labour has a new face, keen to make a difference, so there is a chance of change there. The alternative, if a new Labour government does not deliver, will cause more damage to the Labour Party than the past ever did, so I do believe the new administration will be careful. And a careful government is a good government. As for the current government's policies of increasing the National Debt to ever unbelievable limits, while corruption rules supreme, no thanks. Too much irreversible damage done already This government is anything but careful, rather, arrogant, corrupt and harmful to the country. Guess who I will be voting for in the next election. Simple math Dr. Gonzi.
mark borg
Aug 5th 2012, 22:04
nispera li labour has not changed ...ma ninsewx is sistemi ta sahha u edukazzjoni bxejn ,childrens allowance,leave,sick leave .govt bonuses ,housing u mijiet ta drittijiet li kieku sal lium il pn qatt ma taw lil haddiem u ingawduhom biss grazzi ghal gvernijiet laburisti...
jigifieri tghidilna li labour has not changed TGHAMILLNA KBURIN SUR GONZI ! u kien zball ta alfred sant li qatt ma ftahar bil kisbiet ta gvernijiet laburisti ta qablu ..li in nazzjonalisti jaqbdu parti mil istorja u jghawguwha kif iridu ......
Emanuel. Vella.
Aug 5th 2012, 21:33
@ j.Brincat,5-8-12,@ 11:57.
can you please quantify them ?.
mil A sa Z,ghax min ipprova aghmel il-GID fil-partit nazzjonalista kollha gew imwarrba,pero f'DR.JOSEPH MUSCAT dawn in-nies kollha ha isibu kappell jigihom.
Josef Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 21:28
Tajjeb mela dik kont qed nistenna halli zgur nivvota labour forsi ibni wasal biex jixtri dar u jiehu xi plot b'xejn. Grazzi prim!!
Kevin Marks
Aug 5th 2012, 21:28
Ooooooh get a life Dr Gonzi...have a break and give us a holiday......the same statements ad nauseum!!
francis x caruana
Aug 5th 2012, 21:23
kompli ohlom gonzi. gone are the days when we were stupid enough to belive you
Anthony Grech
Aug 5th 2012, 21:14
Labour has not changed.
But the Nationalist Party has changed to GonziPN.
Joe Fenech
Aug 5th 2012, 20:53
Oh, come on! Be more creative! We've heard this for years. Gonzi and you incompetent bunch - you are not God sent!
Steve Pace
Aug 5th 2012, 20:52
Labour had not changed and it still operated on two weights, two measures, Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi warned this morning.
Thank you for warning us. Quick question... how has PN changed over the last 25 years ?
Joseph Zerafa
Aug 5th 2012, 20:22
Quite some time passed since the prime minister announced the official figure of 20,000 job creation. Hasn't this amount increased a bit since then? Or is it static because the prime minister is on the summer holidays. Those 7000 persons registering for work are keenly waiting for his comeback to office!
George Cutajar
Aug 5th 2012, 19:43
Funny how quite a few commentators below seem to have returned to the movement's fold after many years sucking up to successive PN Government's and even lining their pockets in the process. It is very evident that they feel that the movement now stands a chance of winning the election and hence they fly towards the nectar like insects.
The difference between the PN and the movement is that the former has always been on the right side of history in important decisions which have impacted our life. The movement, starting from it's leader, never had the foresight to see what was best for the common good. The simple fact that JM was hell bent on keeping us out of the EU is testimony to this and nothing said or done will ever erase this fact.
Anthony Paris
Aug 5th 2012, 20:27
May be you can elaborate on these important decisions that have impacted our life. Are you including Divorce Legislation and use of Heavy Fuel Oil?
V Mercieca
Aug 5th 2012, 22:28
Was the PN on the right side of history when they were against introducing one man one vote; and when they were against pensions; and when they were against divorce to mention a few
Joseph Buhagiar
Aug 5th 2012, 23:25
Well, i do not know if what you say is true about the LP Party. I never was interested much except more recently since you left many of us no option.
However one thing is certain. I was all for the EU myself and judging by how helpful Brussels and Germany are when their neighbours need them the most, I am not so sure we did the right thing since it is pretty evident that it remains the ruthless survival of the fittest.
Tell me how on earth can any country protect itself and help its people and industry, even if temporarily, if you do not have control over your currency and tied to not being able to protect it in any way.
Hope you know what Save the Euro at any cost means too!!!
Mr Michael Debono
Aug 5th 2012, 18:44
THe P.N. has always created jobs; rather found work for the people How? by sending them to Australia "tanbour battant" that is with music. Were it not for the tense emigration Workers would have remained in Malta and the P.N. would have ceased to exist and not win a single election.
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 19:35
Michael,
The Maltese electorate have a different opinion to yours!
Joe Fenech
Aug 5th 2012, 20:59
Joe Tabone
The electroate voted for the EU and since has mistook post EU accession funds for economic growth. To have all that debt when you're receiving huge money says it all! In a couple of years' time, Malta will be another Greece and then people will blame PL for it!
Joseph Agius
Aug 5th 2012, 18:40
Maybe Labour have not changed but PN definetley changed and it is not the PN we used to know and we want. We are fed up of you Gonzi and co, we want our party back to his glorious days.
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 18:32
@ Edy Privitera,
Dr Gonzi is not referring to 30 and 40 years ago, but to ALL Labour governments including the Labour government of 1998, who introduced the highest water & electricity tariffs when oil was its lowest ($12/Barrel), then introduced CET, resulting in an economic crisis, resluting in UNEMPLOYMENT!
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 18:50
Joe, I am not a Labourite and I cannot speak for them, but the government of 1996-1998 governed according to moderate or conservative principles that our own party should be adhering to. The removal of part of the subsidy on water and electricity tariffs was a conservative measure that a conservative party should never have opposed and reversed. CET was equivalent to VAT and did not have a different effect on the economy than VAT did. That effect was generally positive. In 1996-98 unemployment and GDP growth were within their normal range for the 1990s.
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 19:33
@ B Cachia,
Cannot understand your argument, the Labour government of 1998 raised the utility tarifffs when oil was at its lowest, its was not a question of subsidies but socially unjust tariffs. The price of oil was $12/barrel, today it is over $100 a barrel. Your statement that CET was equivalent to VAT and that it had the same efect as VAT is absurd, so much so that the Finance Minister of time has resigned due to this senseless 'tax'.
Re unemployment and GDP, what is the 'normal range' for 1998? The truth is that we compare well today and not in 1998!
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 20:49
Joe, both VAT and CET are in effect taxes on consumption. The differences are cosmetic. Probably the country could have been spared the unnecessary switch, but in economic terms the difference was minimal.
According to the CIA World Factbook, unemployment was 6.4% last year, and 6.8% in 2010. It was 5% in 1997, the only full year of the Labour administration. Since the late 1990s unemployment has been somewhat higher than it had been in the early 1990s. The 5% figure for 1997 is fairly close to the average for the 1990s. If you prefer to compare it to today's figures then be my guest.
As you know, and as the present Government insists, water and electricity do not fall from the sky. Nevertheless, for political reasons they have always been rather heavily subsidised for the consumer. The 1996-98 government removed most of that subsidy, the government that followed it partly restored the subsidies, and eventually reduced them again under the current PM.
Steve M. Engerer
Aug 5th 2012, 18:30
LABOUR WON'T CHANGE!!
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 18:53
I regret to note, however, that the Nationist Party HAS changed. It no longer keeps its promises, and no longer appears to have an economic strategy and instead of genuine GDP growth it now produces consolation prizes if not gimmicks like the 20,000 "new jobs" figure, which is a masterpiece of double counting (not to mention that it shamelessly mixes apples and oranges).
Carmel Zammit
Aug 5th 2012, 18:58
BUT PN DID CHANGE
ASK JOHN DALLI, JPO, MUGLIETTE AND..........
Steve M. Engerer
Aug 5th 2012, 19:25
Mr Zammit, if you think it is all hugs & kisses in th PL, just ask Onor Adrian Vassallo!!!
Well, that is if he is allowed to answer you!!
We all know how he was made to shut up when he uttered a word against the leadership of the LP & that the only aim of the PL is to gain power & then we see!!!
John L Galea
Aug 6th 2012, 07:20
@SM Engerer: Yes Labour won't change and become an evil GOnziPN!! It is still the party who has the good of the country first and foremost. On the other hand GOnziPN has changed to a party of fat pigs and in their own terms an oligarchy of evil.
m farrugia
Aug 5th 2012, 18:30
it is not gonzi who is referring to what happened 30 years ago but JM who is still surrounded by these people and these will most probably be elected and given a ministry. imsieken ahna, varist ta ledukazzjoni, leo brincat ta l-ambjent, karmenu vella tal finanzi, anglu farrugia tal pulizijia
wara kollox il kabinett tal pn huwa mimli ucuh godda (chris said, mario de marco, jason azzopardi, tonio fenech etc. etc.) li stinkaw hafna f'dawn l-ahhar erba snin minkejja kull tfixkil u problemi.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 5th 2012, 19:16
M. Farrugia: tAGHMEL DAWK L-UCUH GODDA LI SEMMEJT MA JGIBUX KAPACITA DAQS NOFS IL-KAPACITA LI KELLU KARMENU VELLA FIT-TURIZMU !!!!!!!!!!!!
A Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 19:40
what about Mugliett, JPO, Franco Debono and John Dalli?!! where are they in your list?!
Joe Fenech
Aug 5th 2012, 21:06
Oh, come on - don't include Evarist Bartolo in the nincampoop list!
Ronnie Callus
Aug 5th 2012, 17:55
Dr.Gonzi jekk int, jew Tonio Fenech, u Austin Gatt il-forcina minthomx se ttuna 'Breakdown' ta' dawn 20,000 impjieg li ilkom issemmu (qiesa wahlitilkom id-diska fuqhom) sa' l-elezzjoni hadd mhu jemminkom hlif dawk il-ftit ta' ghajnejhom blu skuri. Ibda biex ittina fabbrika , fabbrika kemm hadmu nies, ix-xoghol x'kien u jekk kienx Part-time jew Full-Time. prekkarju etc; etc;. Din int qed tghidilna li kull sena ghall dawn l-ahhar 4 snin haddimtu 5,000 haddiem ( mara/jew ragel). Mahniex boloh, jekk minthomx se' tuhomna Bye, Bye il-voti taghkom u se taqilghu tkaxkira ta' 20,000. Nghid prosit il-Franco, lil Pullicino, u lil Mulieget li kellhom irhila jikxfulkom lawwar fil-Partit. Lil Franco nghidlu biex issa jghamel li ghandu jghamel halli jehles mill-klikka lilu u lilna, ahna ghalek tajnih il-vot u mhux johrog xi wiehed jghajar lil ta' Hal-Ghaxaq u ta' Hal-Kirkop Cwiec. Din x'arrogganza hi !!! fhiex gibtuh il-PARTIT TAL-PN, spiccajtulu l-valuri kollha u l-Kredibilta.
Joseph E Briffa
Aug 5th 2012, 18:52
@Ronnie Callus.... L-impjiegi godda facli tasal ghalihom jekk wiehed ihaddem daqxejn mohhu. Tara kemm hija l-Labour force illum (16-64), tnaqqas dawk li jirregistraw ghad-dole u tkun taf kemm qed jahdmu. Taghmel l-istess haga ghas-sena 2008. Id-differenza bejn it-tnejn ittik kemm zdidu l-impjegati (gainfully occupied) jigifieri kemm jobs gew ikkreati.
Ronnie Callus
Aug 6th 2012, 08:42
@ Joseph E. Briffa:
Sur Joseph Briffa,la se' tithol ghaliha int din il-bicca xoghol, jekk jogghbok kompli tinna dak li staqsejt, jigiefieri, fejn hadmu dawn in-nies fabbrika, fabbrika, u x'kien ix-xoghol taghhom jekk kienx Part-Time, Full-Time etc; etc; ghax mohhi ma' jtinhiex bhal tieghek.
cesco di luigi
Aug 5th 2012, 17:50
PN has changed A LOT..in the wrong direction I'm afraid..gone are the principles of 1981
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 18:57
Not to mention the promises of 2008, which have been shamelessly broken. Thanks to this betrayal, the Party will not be able to ever promise another tax-cut for a generation. Not only has the PM betrayed those who trusted him, but he has also caused long-term damage to his party's credibility.
Maria Caruana
Aug 5th 2012, 17:48
Labour = unemployment
Donna Parnis
Aug 5th 2012, 18:52
Gonzi = nothing left for the Maltese to own, all sold, Gonzi = Debt for every maltese person,
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 18:59
Statistics don't bear that out, Maria. In 1996-98, both unemployment and GDP growth figures were within the normal range for that decade. Looking at the statistics you wouldn't know that there had been a change of government.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 5th 2012, 19:21
GonziPN- tberbieq ta' mijiet ta' miljuni, inefficjenza, korruzzjoni, vendikazzjonijiet politici, favuri lill-tal-qalba, gideb sfrenat etc..etc..etc..etc..
william cauchi
Aug 5th 2012, 17:39
Labour has not change. Maybe, maybe, let see. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say.
But has the PN changed. Oh sure it did and how, and lot's of nazzjonalisti can't recognize themselves in it and see eye to eye with the party.
Nice last minute words from the Prim., but the hearing should have started a long, long time ago. After the last close election, the first words were ''let's hear what the public is saying''. Did the PN do that? No way. Anzi, the opposite happened. When the public made it clear that the increased energy prices were really hurting them, what did the Prim say. ''Sejjer nivvota bill-qalb''. Difficult to forget those words. When the price increases were really hurting, we got a weekly €1.25 increase (less for the pensioners)and they saved € 500 for themselves. Ouch, that really hurt.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Aug 5th 2012, 17:35
“Labour has not changed” says Malta’s Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi.
And all hell breaks loose!
Just look at all those comments bombarding the Prime Minister for such a statement!
Who said that truth does not hurt?
And this statement coming after the PN new poster “Labour Won’t Work”, sent the Labour party in a frenzy!
Veramente la veritaˋ offende; e come offende!
JC.
Joseph Grech Attard
Aug 5th 2012, 18:16
Coraggio!! Fuggiamo!! shall be the principal slogan for GonziPN! So even the PN and GonziPN have not changed!
A. Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 19:35
I just count the unemployed in the poster. There are exactly 7600 people!
A Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 19:37
Joseph Cauchi Junior -
No, Hell brokes loose because people can see the truth from fabrications that PN has been trying to tell the population.
Question:- where are the 7,000 jobs SMART city was suppose to create? Where are they?!!
Eddy Privitera
Aug 5th 2012, 19:56
Joseph Cauchi: GonziPN's first Billboard has ridiculed GonziPN instead of the PL, since it has shown that GonziPN is bereft of any ideas ! It is a party STUCK IN THE DISTANT PAST, thus not instilling hope for the future !
Doreen Attard
Aug 5th 2012, 17:29
Labour has not changed. Take a look at how Dr Joseph Muscat passed on his message this morning.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 5th 2012, 17:27
Can't this man come up with a new argument, if referring to 30 or 40 years ago, can be said to be an argument ?
How can a political party leader who is stuck in the past, instil hope for the future ?
Carmel De Gabriele
Aug 5th 2012, 17:19
BLA, BLA BLA......................................................................!!!!!
mark borg
Aug 5th 2012, 17:18
X WICC TOST !
m. borg (slm)
Aug 5th 2012, 17:14
If according to gonzi labour hasn't changed how has he and gonzipn/pn changed?
Comparisons are required here.
M Grima
Aug 5th 2012, 17:05
If there was a party who laid the foundations for foreign companies to invest in Malta it was the PL who through their foresight to build the right infrastructure for multinational companies to set shop in Malta. Such examples are St Micro Electronics, Playmobil, Trelleborg and a host of German and British companies.
Moreover, it was the PL who started the financial sector revolution in Malta, through the enactment of various laws related to this sector and the setting up of Bank of Valletta and Mid-Med Bank, coupled with increasing the Central Bank's supervisory and authoritary powers bringing us in line with our European counterparts.
But, Dr. Gonzi deems fit to talk non-sense just to alienate his disillusioned supporters.
M Grima
Aug 5th 2012, 16:53
"On the other hand, Labour governments had put off investors and this was not just in the 1970s and 1980s but also in the 22 months of Alfred Sant's government."
Stop living in the past Dr. Gonzi and at least when you quote something be truthful about it. In what year did ST Micro Electronics, Malta's largest factory open its doors, in what year did Playmobil, the Germany giant set up shop in Malta, in what year did Malta Rubber (presently Trellborg) set up operations on the Island.
The list of such foreign investors is endless but because you think that the Maltese electorate are a bunch of morons you think you can take them for a ride!!!
silvio loporto
Aug 5th 2012, 16:48
Why do we always crtisise the P.L for what happened 20 and 30 years back.
If you really want to go back in time how about telling the younger generation who really scared investors away.
Have we all forgotten the leaflet published by the P.N.
It was surely not intended to attract investors to Malta.
For those whio were still young I will ask them to try and enquire about it.
It was called,
IS MALTA BURNING.
Fran Abela
Aug 5th 2012, 16:43
I have been around for many years and never have I seen so many rude and unfair comments and insults directed at Malta's present Prime Minister. I would have thought that certain people would have some modicum of education and politeness and addressed a prime minister in a manner that befits a prime minister. Same thing goes for the Leader of the Opposition. Like it or not we have to respect the positions of these two politicians. Resorting to insults can bode no good for the political divide.
Tony Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 18:32
If you find these comments offensive....by any chance were you one of those, on the granies during PN's mass meetings chanting sallbu, sallbu in the direction of Dom Mintoff?
cesco di luigi
Aug 5th 2012, 18:49
there's only one position I respect...and I'm not writing about it here!
Fran Abela
Aug 5th 2012, 18:59
Tony Borg - not that it concerns you , but no I was not at the granaries, and still am not, the type of person who insults people or condone insults to politicians, even though I do not agree with their opinions to which they are of course entitled. I am just saying that it is about time that we Maltese are capable of talking to one another, and respect each other's opinions without having to either impose our opinion on those who do not agree with us. Is it asking too much ? We should never allow politicians to divide us or play on our emotions, ever.
Tony Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 19:13
well then if you do not condone insults to politicians then you should condemn all the politicians who have insulted other politicians and in particular those who have in the past insulted Dr. Alfred Sant.
A Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 19:34
these are not insults; Nobody is insulting Gonzi by for example saying anyting on his family or anything personal.
All they are saying is the truth about Investment and who brought it to Malta
R Axisa
Aug 5th 2012, 20:31
Infakrek, per ezempju, meta Alfred Sant kellu laqgha mal-istudenti tal-universita' u nfexxew jghajruh, fosthom ulied artikolisti maghrufa. U mhux tghajjir biss, u xi nghidu ghall-gideb li vvintaw fuq Alfred Sant meta dan kien PM??? X'ma qalux??? Nieqaf hawn. Ir-rispett ghandu jkun dejjem u lejn kulhadd, hu min hu l-persuna, u mhux nitkellmu meta jaqbel lilna biss!
A Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 16:36
What investment has Gonzi broughtt?!!!
Labour has brought =>
SGS,
PlayMobil;
Baxter,
De La Rue,
Corinthia,
Air Malta,
EneMalta
BOV
Mid Med
just to mention a few....
come on Gonzi!! last election you had a bill board saying 6,000 new jobs at SMART city. Where are they?!!!
Fran Abela
Aug 5th 2012, 16:32
In the daily comments by Labour Party supporters, whilst they are going on and on about projects not completed/realised and promises not kept by the PN, they never ever mentioned that this was mainly due to the world recession. If all was rosy in our neighbouring countries then these supporters may have good reason to complain about unbroken promises but no, even the PL never ever mentioned the world crises as if Malta was immune to it but kept on with the negative attitude and never has it once supported government in its various reforms. Admittedly the PN has made mistakes, but then as most will agree, only people who do something tend to make mistakes, others just sit in armchairs and criticise everything under the sun. In my opinion the PN government should complete its term of office as it was given a mandate by the majority to do so, and after that by all means the Labour Party and its supporters can come out and say that the PN did not deliver, and that a Labour Party government is the only alternative government and give us its ideas on policies, etc. so we can compare between both parties. So please all of you have some more patience. The elections are not that far away and if the majority want a Labour Party government then so be it. Let us play the game in a gentlemanly fashion and not like small children who, if they lose, they ruin the game. Also a comment that worried me a bit is that someone said that 'I am not a Labour voter but out of spite I will vote PL'. That is the most childish comment ever made.
We should vote for whoever has changed Malta for the better, and only the blind can see how Malta has really changes, and not out of spite. We are supposed to first think about the good of the country and not for what we personally stand to gain. Above all we should try and reason with one another, accept other people's different opinion and above all be always polite and tolerant.
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 18:42
Fran, what has been the PN's economic policy over the past few years? Certainly, the Nationalist Party changed Malta for the better in its first two terms (lowering income tax rates and freeing the economy), and was the driver behind Malta joining the EU. Since Dr Gonzi became PM, however, nothing much has been done. The 2008 electoral programme provided some hope that there was a strategy after all, and many decided to vote PN at the last minute, instead of abstaining. Today, those people feel betrayed and view these past five years as completely wasted. Maybe if we had voted Labour last time round nothing much would have been achieved anyway (although, who knows?), but at least today we would have a revitalised PN with fresh ideas to vote for, instead of the shambles we actually have.
Maybe if the hard-headedness and arrogance are set aside and the tax cut is implemented, for example, some would return to the fold. But I'm afraid this won't happen. Only some years outside Castille can allow the Party to repair itself.
D Sandman
Aug 5th 2012, 16:30
The PL has not changed...e allura? Xinhu il punt? Min jaf forsi dawk tal PL li bnew kollossi bhal AirMalta jergu jgibuha fuq saqajha.
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 16:19
Job figures are fairly easy to play around with. The standard measure for economic performance is real GDP growth, and on that metric this government has been an abject failure, at least over the past decade. Twenty years ago, a Nationalist government lowered taxes, began a programme of liberilasation and privatisation and a period of strong growth followed. Unfortunately, the current PM has delivered little or nothing in terms of new ideas, and nothing in terms of results.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Aug 5th 2012, 16:18
“Labour has not changed” says Malta’s Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi.
And all hell breaks loose!
Just look at all those comments bombarding the Prime Minister for such a statement!
Who said that truth does not hurt?
And this statement coming after the PN new poster “Labour Won’t Work”, sent the Labour party in a frenzy!
Veramente la veritaˋ offende; e come offende!
JC.
R. Balzan
Aug 5th 2012, 16:16
It seems that Dr Gonzi has not changed, and not Labour. He continues to repeat ad nauseam the blatant lie that 20,000 jobs were created in the past four years. This has already been officially proven as wishful thinking. It's also baseless to make comparisons in education with the level now as compared with 25 years ago. What is a fact is that after 25 years of PN administrations we still have one of the highest rates of illiteracy and early scholl leavers among the EU members. Now that's food for thought.
Charles Massa
Aug 5th 2012, 16:00
Jista jatini split up tal kumpanija li dawn l ahhar 4 snin impjegaw 20000 ruh. Meta jkolli din l informazzjoni forsi nibda nemmen lil Gonzi li ma ghandux maggoranza fil-parlament. Tinnutaw il-lum ma semma xejn fuq il budget li gej...............forsi ghadu ma iddiskutihx ma JPO u Franco Debono. Issa dejjem isemmi l passat. Ix xoghol il PL holqu fis 70/80 fit twaqqif ta hafna kumpaniji tal gvern li kienu jahilbu u anki gvern li ta spinta lit turizmu. Hallina sur prim ghax jekk issemmi il-passat, il PN ghandkom froga. Insejt sur prim fl emigrazzjoni ta zmien 60. Imma l -poplu ma jinteressahx fil - passat. Irid ikun jaf se taghmel int jekk terga titla. Forsi jekk terga titla naraw is 6000 impeig fi Smart City li wieghet fi 2008, u tnaqqis fl income tax.
Noel Abela
Aug 5th 2012, 15:43
Turning away investors my foot. Has Gonzi forgotten that one paricular investor who set shop in Malta during a Labour Govt is the largest on the island, this is no other than ST Electroniocs. So please cut our this crap and call a election because you have lost your majority in parlament.
Joe Borg (Senior)
Aug 5th 2012, 15:56
what about brandt International and many others!!!
S. Vella
Aug 5th 2012, 17:05
ST would have left the island a few years ago if PN had not incentivised their stay.
Either way, the global effects on ST cannot be controlled by either PN or PL. Politicising the ST issue serves for nothing - at least with the average and higher IQ crowd. The rest will vote how for their party anyway.
mark borg
Aug 5th 2012, 17:17
minbarra ghxieren ta kumpaniji ohra it tip ta Brand international li allahares maghadhomx hawn sal lum u jhaddmu eluf ta nies u jespertow b biljuni ta ewro...xghol li jiftahar bih il gonzi pn tal lum 35 u 30 sena wara li ghabuh gvernijiet tal labour (u dan ma ninsewx wara l-ghaks u faqar li halla il gvern fundamentalist tal PN tas sittinijijiet)....
Joseph Camilleri
Aug 5th 2012, 15:37
PN should make the following bill board:
You have been having it good for far too long... time to change, vote labour!
FULL STOP!
Eddy Privitera
Aug 5th 2012, 16:02
jJoseph, you mean: " You have been fooled for far too long.....time to change, vote labour " !
G Schembri
Aug 5th 2012, 16:54
you have an error billboard should read
WE have been having it good for far too long... time to change, vote labour!
S. Vella
Aug 5th 2012, 17:02
Being there a long time is not a reason for change. Better policies especially economic ones are a good reason for change.
Pity, Labour have not yet uttered one decent policy - come to think of it with the exception of the Living Wage debacle, PL have not yet tabled one policy, decent or otherwise.
G Schembri
Aug 5th 2012, 19:46
S.Vella THEY have been having it good ( at our expense) for a long time - that is the reason for change. What we have been witnessing in the past few months has a smell of corrupt practices to say the least. Now that fingers are starting to point it would be better to call an immediate election before the skeletons start coming out of the cupboard, since we don't want a PL government with a 75% majority now do we?
Eddy Privitera
Aug 6th 2012, 12:47
S. Vella: You are just imitating the ostrich . You don't want to see or hear !
GL Calleja
Aug 5th 2012, 15:35
Listen to the pot calling the kettle black?
Edwin Delia
Aug 5th 2012, 15:35
U are Mr Gonzi PL might not have changed for U and your Gooms sure did we never expectd to run our tiny island in this manner u made two grave mistkaes my ex friend your five hundred euros increase when a high percentage of our society is striving to make ends meet and your vote no against divorce in parlament u do not have the right yr only right was to vote for and against in ballot box that is yr perogative but u wanted u show us u still buddy buddy with yr RC Church friends so be it - soon u will have yr verdict and become history for many years to come rest assured and blame yourself and yr gooms we are fed up of u lot what a difference from the previous PN administration black and white - save yr energh u dont need to do meeting or billboard or win a race on yr own just forget it as we have forgotten u for good
Barney Camilleri
Aug 5th 2012, 16:53
Edwin Delia
One of the NP huge idiocy is not the 500 euro increase, and I soon believe can explain, but the repulsive state of vile propaganda that the PN is using to support their defence or find fault of the opposition.
How can a party be called new and progressive when it still have members running for this election who knew Dr. Boffa but sided with Mintoff and always been yes men to any MLP leader since. They condemn Mintoff and now back him as their master voice. This is no new LP.
Today's leader did not even have support from his last employer when he run for leader of the party. What better proof one need to show Joseph identifications.
As for the 500 euro a week, when I found out our 6 E.U. rep. including Joseph made or make well over 300,000 euro a year. Do you really believe that a prime minister deserve less?
This time I will not vote because they are two of the same kind.
M.Dolores Vassallo
Aug 5th 2012, 15:33
Nahseb ahjar iddur dawra ma dwarek l'ewwel u taghra x'hemm bzonn fill partit tieghek l'ewwel tinsiex li ghandek 3 deputati hargu kollox fil berah l'aktar wahda perikuluza il-KLIKEK LI JMEXXUH HUMA L-PN mhux INT. Min ser jerga javdak?
Joe Borg (Senior)
Aug 5th 2012, 15:26
82% opting to continue studying but this figure goes down to 50% figure within the next couple of years. This is the main reason why GonziPN fails because half the truth is always stated and half the truth makes them satisfied!!! That is why we need a new administration to recover from the GonziPN failures!!
George Azzopardi
Aug 5th 2012, 15:19
GonziPN has changed the PN party however! I've never seen their party in such a miserable state. Dr.Gonzi is not able to control his own party let alone Malta. People from inside PN are saying this and not my simple self.
Joseph Muscat has done the opposite. People who had left the party have returned with many other ex-PN with them. JM had some internal conflicts but these were resolved in the most decent manner. I remember the conflict with Joe Debono Grech and this was resolved gracefully. The recent conflict with Dr.Adrian Vassallo. Again I heard Dr.Vassallo myself, stating that this conflict was resolved and is now in the past!
Dr.Gonzi tried to resolve his internal conflicts but went astray and made a mess. He instead went to make an internal leadership election within the party!!! The famous one man election. Dr.Gonzi is the main reason for these PN conflicts. HIS LEADERSHIP CLEARLY FAILED!
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 15:05
Dr Gonzi has said that PN created 20,000 jobs in the last 4 years, some agree other do not. To try to understand what PL have to offer, this morning I managed to hear a part of PL's 'google hang-out' on radio and was surprised at how superficial the questions put J Muscat were. However I was more surprised at the answer Dear Joseph gave to one of the participants to her question on PL's propsals for increased participation in the labour market.
He referred her to UHM's document on an Active Labour Market...............but what are Labour's proposals?!?
Now I understand why - LABOUR WON"T WORK!
Joe Borg (Senior)
Aug 5th 2012, 16:02
You were surprised because he was actually hearing UHM's proposals!!! of course you are used to your arrogant way of seeing things!!! Viva Austin!!!
Eddy Privitera
Aug 5th 2012, 16:05
Joe Tabone: All you need to do is to consult the NSO statistics. There you will find that Lawrence Gonzi has been taking the mickey out of you and those who believe him when he mentions the 20,000 "new" jobs !
Nazzareno Cortis
Aug 5th 2012, 16:05
Joe------it is Gonzi PN is not working-------as to labour-----after next election ------we the people will judge!!!!
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 17:53
@ JB Senior,
NO Joe, I was surprised (not really surprised, everyone knows PL have no proposals), due to the fact that she asked J Muscat for PL's proposal, live on hang-out, but he refered her to the UHM proposals
John Lusignan
Aug 5th 2012, 18:24
Dear Eddie I wish you would join the dinosaur labour team you are so bright. All you do is moan moan and moan. What a downer you are. Do us all a favor and join labour as you'd do great with the likes of Anglu Farrugia & co. Would be a great Jurrasic Park sequel! Seriously instead of moaning why don't you share some of labours great policies.......oh no you can't as there aren't any!!!
John Lusignan
Aug 5th 2012, 15:02
What a bunch of moaners! I wonder how many of you are out of a job? I for one don't know one singe person that is willingly jobless on this rock with ZERO resources. When my foreign friends are here they are always amazed how a rock like Malta has virtually no unemployment and considering the sinking economies of the rest of the world how everyone gets y decently! Joseph Muscat can make all the fun in the world of PN's poster but it's funny though that they don't use their posters to spell out their great proposals that are going to keep the economy afloat and unemployment away! PN is PROUD of its past + present track record. LABOUR is ashamed of its past so tres to mock the PN when the PN highlights labour's atrocious past. With LABOUR the past IS a guarantee of the future! A miserable one! (and if anyone is stuck in the past as JM puts it just take a look at the labour line up!).
G Schembri
Aug 5th 2012, 16:57
All my foreign friends ( coming from Europe and America) are always amazed at the low salary and bad work conditions Maltese workers are offered.
John Lusignan
Aug 5th 2012, 18:20
First of all better a bad salary than no salary! Better no homeless than the millions of homeless and beggars around the world. Second of all I guarantee you that our salaries compare to those In Italy and Spain and fair much better than all the countries in eastern Europe. Yes the uk, France, Germany and the nordic countries have better salaries but first up they are not a rock like us - they have unlimited natural resources, second their cost of living is through the roof, third they pay upto 70% tax and third they have millions of unemployed living on the streets and upto 39 % of their youth is unemployed. So stop moaning you moaners and instead of moaning give us just one policy that labour has to retain full employment and bring up salaries. Just one please?
G Schembri
Aug 5th 2012, 19:54
John Lusignan - Unlike you I am not here to support one party or the other. our salaries and bad working conditions stem from the corruption of this government. workers are being paid with less than the legal minimum wage, are being employed with a four month contract, are being employed by different companies to do the same work, while their employers are becoming millionaires, with the GonziPN's blessing.
As for workers in Italy and Spain, you are misinformed, they earn much more than us. If my salary was the same as those in North Europe I wouldn't mind paying high taxes, although your 70% is much too high, their taxes are more like 40% which includes social services.
John Lusignan
Aug 5th 2012, 22:29
Dear Mr. Schembri believe you me I know what I'm saying. I employ over 20 people across southern Europe and the Maltese salaries compare very well - even exceeding salaries in Italy and Spain for the same job. The tax rates are what they are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_of_Europe - highest in Sweden at 57% +25% VAT. One thing to note which few know of is that in most European states you have to pay city and council taxes on top of government taxes. As for temporary contracts unfortunately this is common practice across Europe since the crisis of 2009 ( seems like labour never heard of the crisis - maybe because it's not felt in Malta!). What's worse is that it's not even temporary contracts that people are getting abroad but many companies are getting through the crisis employing 'students' on post university work assignments for free. As for me you are mistaken. The current government is far from ideal but like it or not they have transformed this country into one with a very respectable economy where everyone has a job and where the standard of living is fair. Unfortunately the opposition has no policies, no real ideas - just cheap and shallow talk based on populist ideology. Unfortunately for us there is no real choice to PN - unless you want to bet on a party (or is it movement) that has failed on every count time and time again!
JOSEPH MUSCAT
Aug 7th 2012, 10:52
@ John Lusignan,The 39% youth unemployed is only in Spain, the people who sleeps on the streets in Britian only because they want too,Mr,Lusignan iF Labour should be ashamed of its past so is Germany but she still bacome one of the greatest countries,and you SIR employ 20 people in southern Europe and the reason to employ in southern Europe is because of cheap labour or to help your friend Gonzi.
j brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 14:57
Ssssshhhhhh!
No, not word at all about Smart City when in 2008 we had Smart Malta, Smart This and Smart That! What we lacked, it seems, was a Smart Government!
Can he at least confirm that the 7000 jobs have been blown away with the wind?
On second thoughts, no, I don't think he will confirm this!
Please stop it with bio medicine. No more spins. How can you? How can it be so when (in 2012) we do not yet have a law regulating IVF? And from what the experts are saying (well advanced in their field) we would finish off with a half baked cake and some egg wash on our faces. Just political convenience to be seen like the PN is some liberal party. This is the same PN whose GonziPN voted against the Divorce bill - how ironic and contradictory!
Doesn't the PN stop to consider that out there there are people with their mind of their own who are capable enough to come to their own conclusion!
Stop this crap once and for all before the PN (which has and will always be an awesome party) loses any more of its credibility. It needs some time (at least ten years )in opposition for a thorough soul searching to make a revival and make a comeback! Mind you, IMO, 10 years are the most ANY party can stay at the helm. After that it becomes..........!
(jb)
(jb)
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Stephen Grech
Aug 5th 2012, 14:49
The same dusted 12" LP being player again.
E. Azzopardi
Aug 5th 2012, 14:39
Could be, but your party certainly has!
Sam Torp
Aug 5th 2012, 14:37
It's high time for accountability from both sides. You won't see it in any of the campaigns. Would be good for all citizens if we had an independent team free from the klikka's that mushroom on either political party.
Sue De Nym
Aug 5th 2012, 14:25
I feel this kind of talk is not what one really expects coming from a head of state. It's the kind of talk that might occur within a simple and common relationship, whatever kind it is. Bringing up mistakes from the past will not heal the present. One must be responsible for his part, admit mistakes, and try to act in positively changing the NOW. And the NOW for many people is not Utopia, contrarily it's very very far from that. A huge part of the population feel totally forgotten and unheard, and it hurts.
Joe Vella
Aug 5th 2012, 15:12
Sue, totally agree with you. The problem is that Joseph Muscat and the PL have not recognised that in the past there were huge mistakes done by the PL. Also, Joseph Muscat and the PL have not told us how they are going to be different in the future. Unfortunately that leaves us, the electorate, with no alternative but to vote PN. A vote for Alternative Democratic, by default is a vote fro the PL.
anton murcia
Aug 5th 2012, 14:21
If Labour is elected there will be ZERO unemployment as our Dear Leader will recruit thousands of people into newly created parastatal (parasitical ! ) schemes and enterprises. We shall become the envy of the European Union with our new local super-currency !
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 17:01
Actually that didn't happen in 1996-98. What we had back then was a moderate if not conservative economic policy. Inexplicably, the supposedly conservative PN (a proud member of the International Democrat Union, grouping together the world's conservative parties and of the EPP) attacked the removal of excessive subsidies on utility bills and reversed those measures, with the effect that Enemalta continues to make massive losses to this day.
As a conservative, my best-case scenario is that Labour does no harm and that the Nationalists come up with ideas to make the economy freer and to lower taxes and make them distort economic activity and incentives less than they do today. Labour, in fact, have reached the stage where they are basically harmless. The Nationalists, for their part, probablhy through being in power for too long, have long ceased to come up with any new ideas and cannot even be relied upon to keep to solemn written commitments, presented to the people in the form of an electoral programme. The time has come, I think, for Labour to hold the fort for a few years while the Nationalist ship is refitted, and the captain and part of the crew replaced.
Robert Henry Bugeja
Aug 5th 2012, 17:41
Miskin, mhemmx kelma ohra ghalik.
m farrugia
Aug 5th 2012, 18:23
yes our dear leader has already guaranteed work for all youths in one of his few proposals
S Scerri
Aug 5th 2012, 14:07
Labour has not changed ! But the PN did , for worse !!
C Rogers
Aug 5th 2012, 14:00
Everything will be fine under Labour.... We're just heading towards the biggest Roller Coast ride ever...
G Buhagiar
Aug 5th 2012, 13:55
Meta nisimghu dan il-kliem li qal il-Gvern jidher li kollox miexi fuq ir-rubbini, pero` nahseb nesa jsemmi l-Gvern li f'dawn il-hames snin saru kummiedji u tgerfix iktar ma nafx minn kemm...
Hadd ma jarhom l-izbalji tieghu, pero` hadd ma jista' jidhaq bl-inteligenza tan-nies!!!!!!
Mr Stephen Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 13:52
I would like to ask the prime minister to give us a break down of his alleged twenty thousand new jobs. How many of these jobs where created in order to replace lost jobs, where most probably those who lost their jobs had better salaries and conditions in their previous job then they have in their new jobs created by our dear prime minister. How many of these are part time jobs or offer substandard wages and conditions. It is easy to boast with a figure of twenty thousand but it is most difficult to explain what these jobs are in reality.
Joseph Micallef
Aug 5th 2012, 13:46
At last Mr. Gonzi has an achievement to brag about. Looking at today's " Mail on Line "one discovers that Malta has the lazyest population in the whole world.
D Sandman
Aug 5th 2012, 14:51
mela qatt ma smajthom jghidu ix xoghol s salmura tal gisem u l ghazz il balzmu...:)
Robert Henry Bugeja
Aug 5th 2012, 13:40
Labour has not changed ...of course , sur "taparsi" Priministru, because Labour still feels the pulse of the People.
But you and your klikka DID CHANGE...because Your own people do not know you anymore!
Joseph Grima
Aug 5th 2012, 13:32
If Labour has not changed, and that is a blatant lie typical of this PM, neither has Dr Gonzi himself. From day one it was evident that he is an arid poltician, devoid of ideas, hostage to the arrogant and right wing elements within his cabinet led by Austin Gatt and lost as far as eeh qualities that national leaderiship demanded of him. If he has changed at all, it is definitely for the worse. This is the man who sent a perfectly valid , viable and solvent nation to the dogs and has blamed everybody else all the way., He obviously beleived that the Borg Cardonas and the Caruana Galizias of tihis wotld, orchestrated by the disgraced eminence grise Cachia Caruana, would do the trick in browbeating his critics into submission. It did not work and soon, the whole despicable crowd of masters of spin will have to face the proverbial wall.
Thomas Mifsud
Aug 5th 2012, 13:29
Same old tactics. But your cries are not anymore swallowed Gonz. Now the people know your tactics and we're not ready to beleive you anymore. We want a new chapter, a new government with new politics and progressive ideas. We want a better life for our children so this time we are choosing PL over the same old klikka GonziPn
Joseph Micallef
Aug 5th 2012, 13:14
Hehe... we all know you quite well now Mr Gonzi. Scaremongering has given you results in past elections, you are experts in scaremongering but I will not trust you anymore.. you have cheated us, time and again, but you won't this time round. I'm going to vote "bil-qalb" PL, just as you did in parliament in favour of the sky-high electricity tariffs. I will never, ever ever forget and forgive you.
Joseph E Briffa
Aug 5th 2012, 17:20
Joseph Micallef...didn't you always do that?
Mr J Xerri
Aug 5th 2012, 13:07
Could somebody confirm or deny what is being said that if the same persons is employed say for three times ( of course on short definite periods) in the same year, this is being counted as three new jobs.
B. Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 17:43
Yes, that's correct, because it's a gross figure (it does not deduct jobs that are lost), and it also includes part-time jobs. So, while the precise scenario you mention is probably not very common, it is perfectly possible.
Victor Calleja
Aug 5th 2012, 13:07
But you changed for the worst. Please stop this nonsense and try to find a way out from your internal problems.
Give us a break and call an election.
Stephen Grech
Aug 5th 2012, 12:48
I would like to hear what Gonzi would say if Dr.Muscat would change his attitude and maybe order the population to take a day off from work and meet at Ghadira, ( in the best interest of the Malteses economy).
Remember the Imnarja day at the beach ordered by the PN?
I Mercieca
Aug 5th 2012, 13:19
Xejn ma jigri Mr.Grech, ghax wara l-era kerha tal-MLP ergajna esperjenzajna xi tfisser il-liberta, dik li tant kienet nieqsa ghall-16 il-sena hakma Socjalista (MLP jew PL jew kif trid).
Tista tistrajkja minghajr ma tigi msawwat jew imkecci minn xogholok jew trasferit Ghawdex. (dawn kollha esperenzajniehom)
Iva l-MLP ghadu l-istess.... Jipprova jpingi l-ghar zmien tas 70's u l-80's bhala zmien sabieh, insejtu jew kemm ghalqu fabbriki bhall-Car Assembly tal-Marsa? Insejtu r-records tal-qghad? Insejtu Malta fid-dlam, bla ilma fil-vit?
Insejtu n-nuqqas ta LIBERTA? Insejtu l-issikkar tac-cintorin?
Insejtu Ahleb Guz? Insejtu li biex wiehed isib jahdem ried jidhol f'Korp bhall-Bahhar u sewwi, Dirghajn il-Maltin, Korp tal-Pijunieri, Stad u Stghana.......jew ifrex u orqod (ghax bla xoghol jew 4 day week
U min jipprova jkun pappagall u jghidli li qed nipprova mbezza bl-imghoddi nghidlu li bosta mill-Ministri li ghamlu herba mill-pajjiz f'dawk iz-zmienijiet ghadhom fil-MLP jew issa Partit Laburista u f'karigi ghaolja wkoll bi pretenzjonijiet kbar.
MIN TAFU SSAQSIX GHALIEH jghid il-Malti.
Stephen Grech
Aug 5th 2012, 14:24
Naqra l-kitba tieghek nisthajjilni qieghed il-genna bhal Issa.
Niftakar hafna affarijiet wkoll jiena, imma inti ma ktibthomx.
Hemm qawl iehor Malti, li l- Lupi ma jbidielx sufu, ghalhekk jekk jinbidel il-gvern kapacci jkollna boycotts, tixwiex, u bhas soltu inbezzaw bil-Babaw. Tattika li drajnija sew issa.!
Daniel Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 14:32
I Mercieca ftakar li l liberta xorta tnaqqret b manuvri indiretti tipo il loan , ma nafx kemm hawn zaghzagh jeffordjaw jistrajkjaw u il-famuza hire and fire jew din mhux realta? Hello qum mir raqda tal- passat u ghamel widintek ma l-art ha tisma il-krib u d-dwejjaq tal generazzjoni tl-Midjuna!!
carlos ellul
Aug 5th 2012, 12:47
The problem is that the PN has changed .
Martin Busuttil
Aug 5th 2012, 13:05
No they haven't, because they are using old dated propaganda that they copied from 33 years ago, just like what they did with Sarcozy's posters in 2008!
anthony borg
Aug 5th 2012, 14:43
Mr Mercieca mela fejn tridu tinsewhom l'affarijiet ... Dr austin gatt kien qal li jaghmel imhatra li ma tibqax fabbrika wahda miftuha u da diskors sar fi zmienijit tal llum mhux ta xi tletin ena ilhu... U ohra najd hadd ma jarah itravu li ghandu f'ghajnejh dejjem it-tibna ta haddiehor jaghra..
m. borg (slm)
Aug 5th 2012, 12:40
Labour hasn't changed according to gonzi but gonzi has surely changed for the WORST.
"Dr Gonzi also focused on education and mentioned the campus set up in Malta by Middlesex University some days ago which will be giving IT courses." ... and where will those who qualify work gonz?
At SMART CITY?
Alfred Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 15:07
Eh? Int bis-serjeta'? Tista' tmaqdar kollox f'Malta, imma emminni Malta ma hemm l-ebda problema biex nies gradwati fl-IT jsibu xoghol.
cesco di luigi
Aug 5th 2012, 17:56
m.borg
one says "for the worse" NOT "for the worst", though I know what you mean and agree 100%.
Colin Camilleri
Aug 5th 2012, 12:39
Even if in our wildest dreams, the alleged 20,000 jobs creation is true, this PM has been boasting about this milestone for over a year. How is it then this figure is the same for over a year now? Does this mean that gonzipn has spent the last year sleeping and getting an extra 500 euros a week on top of their salary for nothing?
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 12:36
Fact - PN still has the better policies. To get an idea, Labour's answer to the PN billboard were numerous different billboards by PL, but only one had a message referring to employment and this in the ICT sector. A sector where qualified workers are employed on the spot.
For Labour waiting on a bus stop is a major electoral issue...............LABOUR WON"T WORK!
N Chetcuti
Aug 5th 2012, 13:38
It seems that you don't use buses to go to work!!!!
Mr Stephen Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 13:45
But ha PN ever worked for the majority of those with minimum wages, low standard of living and precarious jobs. I don't think so buddy.
francis mallia
Aug 5th 2012, 14:30
85pc of malta wants u x your corrupt govt out
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 14:55
@N Chetcuti,
No, i don't use the bus to go to work, but the fact that we have new EURO V buses means less polution and that's already a great improvement for me. I also appreciate the fact that a handicapped worker who works in the office next door can travel on ALL the buses today!
@ S Borg,
The PN has introduced several initiatives for the low income workers, with the main focus of safe guarding jobs. Compare this to the last Labour government of 1998, what did they do for you?
Joe Tabone
Aug 5th 2012, 15:08
@F Mallia,
The present government was elected by the majority of the electorate at the last election with a mandate to Govern till March 2013. The PN has never governed against the will of the electorate, .........unlike others!
Mr Stephen Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 16:38
@J Tabone
You are like the prime minister, he states with conviction that his administration created 20,000 Jobs whilst the NSO states that half that figure was created and that most of the jobs created replaced lost jobs, Lawrence Gonzibut fails to outline what kind of Jobs where created and what are the conditions and the salaries these jobs carry. If I remember correctly and I am sure you also remember this, before the 2008 General Elections Lawrence Gonzi said that he would fight precarious employment where employees are deprived of basic working conditions like vacation and sick leave entitlment. In Maltese we have a good saying for our prime minister which goes like this "Mil-Kliem ghal-fatti hemm bahar jikumbati". Prosit PN!!!!!
David Bezzina
Aug 5th 2012, 12:35
I wonder how much more are we going to hear this 'ad nauseum' rhetoric from the PM.
JOSEPH MUSCAT
Aug 5th 2012, 12:33
Mr,Prime Minister is`nt that what William Hauge promised you,Britian want forget Malta AND YOU BELIEVED HIM.and dont forget the PSATEN FIR ROTI,when you use to hindrance the labour Party and giving Malta a bad name so forieng investers want come to Malta when Dom Mintoff was in government and Eddie Fench Adami was in opposition,You remember Lawrence.SHAME ON YOU TWO,
Edmond Micallef
Aug 5th 2012, 12:33
According to GonziPN, Labour has not changed.
Unlike GonziPN....they have changed and how......from bad, to very bad, to a complete disaster.
V Caruana
Aug 5th 2012, 12:26
On reading this report I had to check the publication date whether it was 29/07 or 22/07 or 15/07 or 8/07. The 20k jobs that gonziPN created should thank our local petrol station owner as he replaced his attendant many times in the last four years.
During the '70 & '80's it was the PN who made every effort even illegally to put off foreign investment in Malta. One particular incident was the distribution of a book "Is Malta Burning". PN in opposition is really distructive.
Nick Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 12:42
Hahaha, PN put off foreign investment because of a book,u halluna!!!
Is it possible today you cannot see why we had no foreign investment in those days?
G. Abela
Aug 5th 2012, 12:22
Why not you take a look into your own affairs first sur GonziPN!!!
If the world had to use the same measures as the PN are doing in this electoral campain we should not be friendly with the Germans and Italians for something that happened a long time ago.
And if you still are un aware of what the PL did in the 70s and 80s with the investment that came from abroad why not ask around especially SGS or Playmobile or Air Malta or Karen Grech Hospital the one that for decades provided our children with the best possible healthcare.
Isthi jekk taf!
Lawrence Fenech
Aug 5th 2012, 12:20
Always upside down what GonziPN says, it is the PN that keeps looking years backwards like the so called original billboard.
It seems that Gonzi is back to the "ba baw "attitude and tries to alinate the nationalists of the mess his own party is in, not forgetting that he has now no majority and scared stiff to go back to parliament work.
Gonz, imhawwah kont u imhawwad bqjat.
Adam Brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 12:17
20,000 jobs. Changing your jobs three times because of insecurity, does that count for 3 jobs to the government ? Working for a period of couple of months in the case of students are they counted also in the 20,000? From that figure which is misleadingly being used around what jobs does it include? Ironically they never mention it.....
B Attard
Aug 5th 2012, 12:14
lmma int inbdilt Dr Gonzi tul dawn l-ahhar 4 snin ghax inzajt il-libsa tal-haruf u wrejtna snienek!
Paul Cassar
Aug 5th 2012, 12:14
RE LABOUR & FOREIGN INVESTMENT
Dear prime Minister please note that most of Malta's large foreign entities, and which you like visiting, like
SGS, De L a Rue, etc etc came to Malta during labour.
RE EDUCATION
please note also that free education up to univ, student allowances, Mcast levels raised to univ level are but very few of Labour's vast nationwide educ. improvement
Last but not least..................please note that it was you, yourself, who last REDUCED STUDENT ALLOWANCES.
I Mercieca
Aug 5th 2012, 12:57
Paul, today is not April's fool!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joseph Zerafa
Aug 5th 2012, 12:14
The Prime Minister said that throughout the years, the PN had always been the party capable of creating employment. Then why are there 7000 persons registering for work? And the ones employed, are they living better?
Carmel Zammit
Aug 5th 2012, 12:12
Amazing how a party leader besieged by his own party wants to talk about a competitor party and ignores his domestic problems. I can understand that Dr. Gonzi having failed miserably to administer both party and government affairs effectively wants to hide his failures by deviating attention. Of course he could woo some die-hards but the rest of the electorate is not dumb.
Why does he avoid to mention the ever increasing of fuel and gas even when its price does down on the market?
Why does he avoid to speak about the increasing people sliding towards the poverty lines?
Why does he not speak about the constant drop in take-home pay of workers?
Why does he not speak about the failure to create the promised jobs in smart city?
Why does he not say that a few thousands of the jobs he claims to have created are the result of employee swaps?
Why does he not speak about the dumping of long established high earning jobs in companies that were privatised only for the same job positions to be filled by definite-contract graduate workers that are paid the minimum wage?
Why does he not mention the hundreds of jobs lost in GO and other privatised public-owned companies sending able qualified technicians and senior officers to take up jobs as security guards at Mater Dei only to be paid the minimum wage?
Why does not mention the quality of jobs created?
Why does not mention the thousands of workers forced out of the labour market?
Why does not speak about the arrogance that characterised his administration right from the start?
Robert Agius
Aug 5th 2012, 12:01
Fancy that, this arrogant git speaking about two weight, two measures.
Mario Tabone-Vassallo
Aug 5th 2012, 12:00
Ma nafx x'wicc ghandu jghid hekk, meta wkoll tabella politika li ghazlu haditna lura 33 sena u bl-Ingliz, f'Malta stess jzebilhu l-ilsien nazzjonali wahdani u jridu l-vot tal-Maltin!
stephen koludrovic
Aug 5th 2012, 11:58
20,000 new jobs, 20,000 graduated students, 20,000 irregukar immigrants, I hope it won't be a decifit of 20,000 votes for either party in the next elections.
j brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 11:57
@Emanuel. Vella.
"issa naraw timbidlux inthom minn wara l-elezzjoni generali 2013,ghax milli jidher kollha hemm ha tibqaw"
Can you please quantify them?
(jb)
j brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 11:54
"On the other hand, Labour governments had put off investors and this was not just in the 1970s and 1980s"
OMG what a face!
Who was behind 'The Malta File'? Did this serve its purpose and scared off investors during the Labour government?
(jb).
Emanuel. Vella.
Aug 5th 2012, 11:54
inthom ha tinbidlu jew ha tibqaw kollha fil-partit nazzjonalista ?. nixtieq xi hadt mil l-ezekuttiv tal-partit nazzjonalista jghatini risposta.
Freddie Micallef
Aug 5th 2012, 11:54
irid ikollok wicc ta pett ta zarbun sabiex tghid li l labour ma inbdilx.Ara gonzipn inbidel u kif.
1 Tarznari
2Airmalta
3Arriva
4sptar b'xejn u biex tiehu sodda trid tqatta fuq 24 siegha tistenna.
5 waiting list ghal l operazzjonijiet .
6Korruzzjini ixxomma kulimkien.
7Power station li thammeg u tmarrad lil nies.
8Toroq ,qiesna qeghdin nghixu fl Afghanistan.
9.500 euro zieda bil mohbi.
10.kemm ilu hemm gonzipn hlief inkwiet intern ma hemmx.
11.jekk ma taqbilx mal klikka itajrulek rasek.
12.teatru bla saqaf
13.xaqq flok bieb il belt
14 u flahhar dak il parlament li gej jiswa ma nafx kemm .
Dawn huma mil ftit hwejjeg li gonzipn ser jibqa maghruf ghalijom.
Mr Joe Micallef
Aug 5th 2012, 12:44
Isthi jekk taf
Marita Magro
Aug 5th 2012, 12:50
can't name it better ...
Daniel Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 13:08
U xibka ta hazen go oligarkija...
Mr Stephen Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 13:58
@Joe Micallef
Change you rhetoric please because I think that the ones who should be ashamed are those who have bleed this country finances for just nothing because the roads are the same as I remember them 25 years ago. The promised EU standard of living never materialized and most government owned companies and entities ended in private hands or went bust. Prosit.
jesmond zammit
Aug 5th 2012, 14:42
pm tal misthijja ghandna .
Mr Joe Micallef
Aug 5th 2012, 16:09
Stephen Borg tipprovax tisthi - it is not a value you can aspire to
Mr Stephen Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 22:47
@Joe Micallef
I do not have anything to be ashamed of but on the other hand our prime minister and his administration have lots to be ashamed of like the BWSC contract, Enemalta, Air Malta, the Arriva fiasco, the withdrawal EU funds for Education courses because of irregularities and so on. Please remove your blue glasses and have a look around you, they are obscuring your vision.
Mr Joe Micallef
Aug 6th 2012, 13:32
Stephen Borg, I told you it's useless trying!
You're particularly funny (in reality dishonest) when you mention EU funds! What EU funds! Anything EU is an indelible shame label for you, Joey and all PL
Emanuel. Vella.
Aug 5th 2012, 11:53
inthom ha tinbidlu jew ha tibqaw kollha fil-partit nazzjonalista ?. nixtieq xi hadt mil l-ezekuttiv tal-partit nazzjonalista jghatini risposta.
Victor Laiviera
Aug 5th 2012, 11:52
Dr Gonzi is still repeating the discredited spin about the "20,000" jobs, although this has been shown to be an absolute fallacy.
It is enough to point out that an employe on a short-term contract who has his/her contract extend three times in a year is counted as three new jobs created.
Daniel Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 14:35
hehe hafna mill ighna maltin ma jghafux li jekk tahdem siegha fil gimgha hu meqjus bhala job!!
Alexander Brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 11:52
Labour two weights, two measures? Is Gonzi serious?
Who got elected and took a €500 increase per week behind everyone's back?
j brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 11:51
"The Prime Minister said that throughout the years, the PN had always been the party capable of creating employment, and this not through the creation of employment corps"
Is he referring to the 20,000 jobs?
People out there who are 'begging' for jobs or a decent one will confirm or otherwise how true this statement is!
(jb)
j brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 11:50
"Labour had not changed and it still operated on two weights, two measures, Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi warned this morning"
BUT the PN has changed a lot and how!
Now the PN can NO longer boast that it is a united party. It is fragmented and rocketed at its very foundations!
We now have an MP who has to be consulted before giving the green light to new bills. And what about the new blog by Dr Franco. I never cease to be amazed when I read his blog1
(jb)
joseph mifsud
Aug 5th 2012, 11:50
mhux ahjar tinbidel int priministru bla idejat u mwahhal mal poter.f gieh is sewwa warrab min hemm u ghatti cans lil haddiehor.
J. Scicluna
Aug 5th 2012, 11:48
When Mintoff's MLP was first elected in the 70's Malta had NOTHING.
Under his premiership the foundation stones for a modern TRULY Indepenant country were laid down in the form of infrastructure, factories and national entities like Air Malta, Sea Malta etc.
Successive governments, Labour and Nationalist, built on THOSE foundations; do not forget.
Moreover, it was successive PN governments that have run a 5bn debt bill (around half of it under GonziPN) that we can now boast of having the national dog of Malta being the "Great Dejn".
Resorting to fear factors can only mean that the Prime Minister still believes that the Maltese voters are still living in the dark ages (where he wants them to be) to spoon feed them anything just to retain hold on the precious PM's seat in Castille.
Labour has not changed? Some people are in a massive state of denial and think that by repeating the same mantra they can brainwash the ultimate paladin of democracy; the Maltese electorate.
jesmond zammit
Aug 5th 2012, 11:48
bis sejeta imma ? il pn imbidel hafna imma . dak kliem kredibbli ta daloghodu tal pm? .jien ghalijja jaf li ghandu kollass totali . ma semmiex proposta wahda , irid il proposti biex jikkopja . sur pm , jekk mhux se zzarma , se jzarmawk.
Pippo De Marco
Aug 5th 2012, 11:48
I have been a PN supporter for many years, but I can no longer support the party with Gonzi as leader. I would not be true to myself if I voted for him just to make it harder for Labour to secure victory. Gonzi has betrayed my trust but I will not betray my principles.
I know I am not alone in this situation.
John B. Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 11:42
The Prime Minister said: "Labour governments had put off investors and this was not just in the 1970s and 1980s but also in the 22 months of Alfred Sant government."
Is it the summer heat, selective amnesia or cheap political shots Mr Prime Minister.?
Do you know what Government and in which years the German company Brand International (Playmobil) and around 40 more German indistries came to Malta? Mr Prime Minister do you know when SGS, Microelectronics invested in Malta? It was 1981 under a Labour government.
Check your facts please
Mr Joe Micallef
Aug 5th 2012, 11:39
Accidentally the archive structure of this forum setup has brought up a 2009 story wherein the PL suggested lowering VAT on tourists, because they shot from the hip, Malta would lose tourists,
Since then tourism has registered one record after another. Had the government heeded to PL superficial call Malta would have lost substantial revenue!
Another in a string of amateur PL policies.
Eddy Privitera
Aug 5th 2012, 11:38
Skond JPO, Franco Debono u Mugliett. GonziPN inbidel - GHAL AGHAR ! U l-kampnja li tbezzghu lin-nies turi car hafna illi huma INTHOM STESS DR. GONZI, li imbezzghin li jekk titilfu, il-poplu jsir jaf bil-hafna hnizrijiet li twettqu tah il-PN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Dimech
Aug 5th 2012, 11:38
kemm huwa negattiv - dejjem ibezza'; Hekk biss jaf jaghmel!
Jo Camm
Aug 5th 2012, 11:37
"He noted that 20,000 students had graduated in the past 4 years."
A few years ago, a friend of mine who lives in Australia, but intended to return to Malta soon, asked me, what they should learn more before coming back here. I adviced him and his children to learn more on IT. He took my advice and now they are earning good money from their jobs here.
Another one aske me, "Will all these students leaving the university in Malta find jobs." My reply was that in a few years it will be easier to find a job if you have a university degree. Isn't it very true????
Joseph Brincat
Aug 5th 2012, 11:37
Quoted Gonzi pn >.> Labour has not changed, PM warns
I guess he meant that the PN has not changed for it is plain to see
that in 25 years he always governed with DEBIT , that today it amounting
to 6 BILLION euros , and on top of that he put us in a recession !!!
Mr Jimmy Vella
Aug 5th 2012, 11:33
What about illegal immigration,can you tell us what you are proposing to do ,so I can decide to vote for you or not ?
G Portelli
Aug 5th 2012, 12:02
He is going to go against all conventions and send them all back or worse he will do like Joseph said and leave them dying at sea. Ma tarax Gahan malti.
J. Scicluna
Aug 5th 2012, 11:30
LABOUR put off foreign investors?!
What gall!
And just WHO was it that when in opposition used to make sure foreign investment was disrupted and told not to invest in Malta? EFA's PN (which included Lawrence Gonzi)...THAT's who.
Ronnie Callus
Aug 5th 2012, 12:21
Well said Mr.Scicluna. What a Shame of Dr.Lawrence Gonzi to say such comment when they were the culprit of disruptng the investment coming to Malta and other Maltese investors told not to take part in Malta's investments. Do they forget that PN people were sent abroad to make damage to Malta's image. They were and still are the people who milk Malta's assets and put it in debt. They were the people in the past who used to pay the passages for the Maltese workers to go work in Australia. Try to find if any children of theirs had to go to Australia to work. Most probably not because they were always given a cushy job for sure as it being done nowadays. Don't leave Gonzi's and others speeches to mislead you as already done in the case of Malta Drydocks, Hunters, Bird trappers, Farmers, AirMalta and much more. May I ask Dr.Gonzi where thesev 20,000 jobs in 4 years have been created. To be credible he should give us the factories in which they were employed and numbers in each, together with the type of work ie; whether full-time and Part-time. Also may I ask him and Dr.Austin Gatt where are the 6000 jobs in Smart City.
S Cachia
Aug 5th 2012, 12:22
welll said....
i would like to ask the PM (if i ever have the chance) who brought SGS, Dowty, set up Sea Malta and Air Malta, and the China Dock to bring more investment in Malta? When Mintoff used to go abroad (to Libya, or China - and the PN were so much against china but then they licked their...) he brought investment and money... not a bell or a dog...
m. borg (slm)
Aug 5th 2012, 12:45
Mr Cachia , EFA did bring a bell and a dog which are still more than gonzi ever brought, which is nothing, nada, niente, xejn.
Although to gonzi's credit he did bring back POVERTY.
Ronnie Callus
Aug 5th 2012, 12:47
S.Cachia:
Thanks for adding more of Mintoff's achievements. The PN not even start with DUMINKU MINTOFF the saviour of our Maltese island from the foreigners which is being given back part by part by Dr.Gonzi and his previous heads. It's a SHAME.
Jade Schembri
Aug 5th 2012, 11:24
I see Lawrence Gonzi has not learned his lesson. The scare tactics do not work anymore
Henry Mifsud
Aug 5th 2012, 11:23
Labour has not changed but the Nationalists did ...... to the worse!
ALBERT FENECH
Aug 5th 2012, 11:22
Thank you for your warning Dr Gonzi. Now you can go back into your normal hibernation - that is if Dr JPO, Dr FD and Perit Mugliette (and a number of others) do not disturb your prolonged four-year siesta a little more than they already have. To be quite frank, you are not qualified to issue any warnings because you cannot even manage your own political party.
ALBERT FENECH
Daniel Borg
Aug 5th 2012, 11:13
Mux ahjar tinbidlu intom lewel flok tibqaw maluqin alikom?
Emanuel. Vella.
Aug 5th 2012, 11:10
issa naraw timbidlux inthom minn wara l-elezzjoni generali 2013,ghax milli jidher kollha hemm ha tibqaw.
Jo Camm
Aug 5th 2012, 11:39
Jekk il-poplu jridhom hemm jibqghu, ghax il-poplu jikkmanda, mhux il-politici, wara kollox.
B Attard
Aug 5th 2012, 12:12
izda probbabbli f'oppozizzjoni.
Marita Magro
Aug 5th 2012, 12:52
malta needs a change of management asap gonzi pn is not delivering anymore... need new ideas ... and not scaring people of the past which brought us to what we are today ...
Jo Camm
Aug 5th 2012, 17:21
@ B Attard "izda probbabbli f'oppozizzjoni" Naturalment!! Hekk jew hekk il-MLP/PL issa draw fl'Oppozizzjoni.
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