Updated: Borg Olivier attacks Muscat for 'trying to hide his actions' over Mistra
Updated - Adds PL reaction - PN General Secretary Paul Borg Olivier told a press conference this afternoon that the party stood by its claim that it was Joseph Muscat who had given the PN indications in 2008 that the PL was about to target Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando on the Mistra affair.
He said that his move had effectively pulled the carpet on then Labour leader Alfred Sant.
Dr Borg Olivier showed a clip taken on February 25, 2008, where, he said, Dr Muscat had warned of the attacks about to be waged by the Labour Party. Dr Muscat had then, in a conversation, passed on the information about the Mistra campaign.

Dr Borg Olivier recalled that in June 2008 then PN General Secretary Joe Saliba had revealed in The Sunday Times how Dr Muscat revealed the information in a conversation. At the time, Dr Muscat made no denial. He was only doing so now.
The PN General Secretary added that recent media comments by Dr Sant also showed that information given to the PL about Mistra had not come from the Nationalist Party, as the PL was now claiming. Jason Micallef, then PL General Secretary, was also on record as saying that the information to the PL had not come from the PN.
The issue now was not Mistra itself, Dr Paul Borg Olivier said, but how Dr Muscat was now trying to hide his actions.
PL REACTION
In a reaction, the PL said Dr Borg Olivier's press conference was a ridiculous attempt to deceive.
Only Dr Borg Olivier could somehow think that Dr Muscat in his official capacity could leak such information on national TV days before the election.
It would be better for Dr Borg Olivier to investigate who really leaked the information in 2008, somebody who was close to the prime minister, the PL said.
144 Comments
Post comment
Please sign in or create your Account to post comments.
Mario Scicluna
Jul 25th 2012, 12:00
Ahjar PBO u shabu jaraw kif ha jindirizzaw il problemi veri tal-pajjiz bhad-Deficit u Dejn Pubbliku, nuqqas ta' xoghol u opportunitajiet ghaz-zaghzagh, nuqqas ta' flus bil-bwiet, kontijiet u tariffi gholja, servizz ta' sahha f'Babilonja shiha, rebus fit-transport pubbliku,pensjonijiet, edukazzjoni u fuq kollox rispett u serjeta lejn l-ghola istituzzjoni tal-pajjiz bhal-Parlament milli jinhela fuq il hmerijiet u qlajjiet. Wara kollox, din l-affari bdewha u bazwarha GonziPN bid-deputati tieghu stess!! U ahjar jitghallem jibghat email PBO.
Mario Camilleri
Jul 25th 2012, 11:23
PBO. admit that you GonziPN failed the party, failed your supporters and failed the country. It's useless trying to grasp to a bit of straw that you find running about. The issue is the dilapidated government as well as the party. This country has an issue, an unhealthy and ill governance.
You need to go to opposition thereby you would have enough time to resolving your internal affairs, clean up your party from this mess you've made as well as certain candidates while rebuilding your party from scratch. Gonzi has shown he's weak, his incapability of managing the party let alone the nation therefore there where no 'par idejn sodi' ever, it was only an illusion!!
Joe Fenech
Jul 25th 2012, 11:12
This happened when PN was in office. What does PL have to do with it? If JPO allegedly commited felony or whatever, it is for PN and the authorities to investigate
Emanuel. Vella.
Jul 25th 2012, 10:37
il-partit nazzjonalista mhux attakka lil PL f'dan il-mument prezenti irrid.
imma isolvi il-problemi interni fi hdanu stess irrid,l-ewwel prijorita tieghu,
imbadt hemm ikun jista jattakka lil-PL.
l-elezzjoni generali dalwaqt maghna,u biex tirbah elezzjoni generali,irrid
l-ewwel ikollok partit b'sahhtu u mhux marid serjament.
Joseph Micallef
Jul 25th 2012, 10:36
Come on GonziPN... GET A LIFE! Is it possible? don't you have muchhhhhhh more serious problems to take care of? You smashed your party! you've managed to ruin your party and send it to the dustbin of history! You managed to kick-out true die-hards from your party! You have ridiculed your party to the lowest ever levels in the maltese political history!
Vincent Borg
Jul 25th 2012, 10:32
Question to Dr. Paul Borg Olivier
Was Dr. Alfred Sant wrong or right back in 2008?
Please react to my Question, or else in my opinion you are not Honest, as I always thought you were.
Have a good day
Emanuel. Vella.
Jul 25th 2012, 10:51
proset ghal mitt elf darba,
@ vincent borg,to-day,10:32.
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 11:51
@ Vincent Borg
This is my opinion.
Since the PN was aware of HALF THE TRUTH when this person presented himself as a candidate in the last general election, Dr. Alfred Sant was correct in 2008. But while acknowledging Dr. Sant's intentions at that time, it does not mean that the PN was aware of the whole story. The whole story lied in Dr. Sant's hand at that time and it should have been Dr. Sant to reveal the whole story to the electorate two or three days prior to the General Elections.
Had Dr. Alfred Sant was sure of himself when he possessed an official document by which he could have hammered the PN few day before the general electins, Dr. Alfred Sant must have called JPO's bluff and answered his questions. Maybe today we have another story.
Vincent Borg
Jul 25th 2012, 12:35
@ Philip Hili
"It does not mean that the PN was aware of the whole story"
Do you believe this or this is just an alabi
Mario Camilleri
Jul 25th 2012, 13:22
@Philip Hili,
Why didn't JPO or rather was instructed not to go to the police and call for an investigation on the so called infamous allegations by Alfred Sant prior to the show of contract on the election eve?
Because their strategy was to keep away from any investigations and proclaim JPO as martyr thereby GonziPN knew all along about the Mistragate and JPO.
If PBO was wiser as a Sec Gen., he should have found a way to end this saga instead of adding further which in turn is resulting in more conflicts while jeopardizing the country's economy. Because of the GonziPN's internal affairs this country is at a standstill.
U il-kobba aktar titħabbel b'dettriment li aktar qed jitgħarraq GonziPN!
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 17:49
@ Mario Camilleri
Qieghed tara kemm ma taf XEJN!!!
Jekk kien hemm xi hadd li messu obbliga li dan ir-ragel li jmur ghand il-pulizija kien Dr. Alfred Sant, ghax Dr. Alfred Sant kellu l-informazzjoni ufficjali kollha f'idejh. Anzi, nazzarda nghid li Dr. Alfred Sant kien obbligat li jmur ghand il-pulizija u jirraporta dak li kellu f'idejh. Kif nista' jien nibghatek ghand il-pulizija meta jien ma naf xejn fuqek jew jekk naf, naf nofs verita'? Ghalhekk ghidtlek li Dr. Sant "must have called his bluff", halli wara li kien jikxef kollox u l-affarijiet ikunu moghod iehor imbaghd ikun il-kaz li tibghatu ghand il-pulizija, u mhux qabel il-kaz ikun mikxuf.
Izda bhal dejjem, Muscat's Labour Party dejjem jaqbad l-affarijiet minn sieqhom bil-konsegwenza li l-istorja ddur fuqu, jew kif jghid l-ingliz "fires back against him".
Konferma ohra kemm inti ma taf xejn, ghadhekk "beccun" irrizulta minn din is-sentenza li ktibt:- "Because their strategy was to keep away from any investigations and proclaim JPO as martyr - Ghala? Ghax jekk kif qieghed tghid int, l-istrategija tal-PN kienet li tevita kull investigazzjoni u Dr. Alfred Sant kellu l-evidenza kollha biex jimplika lill dan ir-ragel u lill-PN, KIEN IMISSU IZJED MAR GHAND IL-PULIZIJA U JIRRAPPORTA META JAF LI GHANDU L-FATTI KOLLHA UFFICJALI F'IDEJH!!!! Hallina Mannnn!!!
Issa jekk lanqas dan ma jwassal mohhok biex tifhem, allura, "no wonder" ghala is-sitwazzjoni hawwadtuha mill-bidu sat-tmiem.
Mario Camilleri
Jul 25th 2012, 19:07
@Philip Hili,
Alfred Sant qatt ma kellu għalfejn imur hu għand il-pulizija għaliex JPO ma kienx qiegħed jagħmel xi att kriminali. Kien sempliċiment qiegħed jagħmel "sagrileċċ" għaliex bħala l-persuna li kien ingħata l-'green award' favur l-ambjent u kien ikkonfronta nies biex saħansitra ma jagħmlux ħsara lill-ambjent, imbagħad kien involut f'dak li kien ser ikun tħassir fil-wied tal-Mistra.
Mela allura jekk kif dejjen stqarr hu li ma kienx vera dak li kien qed jgħid Alfred Sant fuqu, mela dan ifisser kif intqal kemm-il darba, li Sant kien qed jitfa t-tajn, u jekk allura l-allegazzjonijiet ta' Sant kienu nfami u nfondati u forsi foloz, kellu jkun JPO nnifsu li jmur għand il-pulizija. Agħar imma li kellu jkun il-PN li jħeġġu jmur għand il-pulizija għax b'dak li kien qed jagħmel Alfred Sant kien qiegħed jagħmel ħsara lill-PN, u minn dan kollu ma ġara xejn.
U tinsix kemm kien hemm nies u kowċis involuti biex jaraw kif ibażwruha ħalli joskuraw lil Alfred Sant. Imma bħal dejjem id-dnub ma jorqodx u ż-żejt dejjem jitla f'wiċċ l-ilma!!
U hawn jien għandi raġun daqs kemm kellu u għandu Alfred Sant u mhux intom, l'apoloġisti nazzjonalisti. Il-fatti huma li n-nazzjonalisti dejjem ħbew mill-poplu għal gwadan tagħhom, eżempju tipiku kienet is-€600 żieda fil-ġimgħa u l-poplu "min ħadha" ħa €1.16, x'kontrast!!
Hemm kliem il-għerf li jgħid "la tigdeb darba tibqa tigdeb biex tgħatti l-gidba ta' qabel".
Colin Camilleri
Jul 25th 2012, 09:29
I really do not understand this clip! PBO himself is claiming and refering to JM as the Opposition Leader in 2008! Before the election it was still Alfred Sant and not Joseph Muscat.
How can you expect us to believe you and GonziPN, dear PBO, when you are on record for lying?
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 10:15
@ Colin Camilleri
"How can you expect us to believe you ..." Sur Camilleri! when it is YOU and others like you who are saying that in yesterday's press conference Dr. Paul Borg Olivier referred to Dr. J. Muscat "as the Opposition Leader in 2008?!" It is your fantasy who is jumping to the conclusion that Dr. Paul Borg Olivier referred to JM as leader of opposition . If you go through the above extract of this paper, you will find nothing of this sort! It seems that you have a very short memory not to remember that after elected leader of the then Malta Labour Party today also known as Muscat's Labour Party, Dr. Muscat spent almost a year in Brussels with the post of Leader in the Muscat Labour Party vacant and his post was occupied by Dr. Charles Mangion!!!-- "Sakemm kien lest!!!", If you do not know the history of your party, please stop taking us for a ride - "minn ghalik" and respect our intelligence.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 25th 2012, 08:45
Anyone who watches the clip will quickly realize that in this clip Dr. Muscat was already the leader of the PL ! So he couldn't have been "hinting" let alone " leaking" anything about the Mistra affair, since at that time Dr. A. Sant was the leader, not Joseph Muscat !!!!!
Konferma kolossali ohra kif il-PN u issa GonziPN, mohhom biss KIF JGHADDU Z-ZMIEN U JQARRQU BIL-POPLU MALTI U GHAWDXI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 10:24
@ Eddy Privitera.
"realize that in this clip Dr. Muscat was already the leader of the PL ! "
IZDA JMEXXI MINN BRUSSELS!!!!
U hallina Eddy. Mela insejt li Dr. Charles Mangion ghamel kwazi sena jmexxi "Muscat Labour Party minnflok JM sakemm "il-leader" kien lest??
Qatt ma tghaddili minn mohhi li inti dan ma tafux! Izda ghal konvenjenza tieghek u biex tqarraq bil-qarreja ta' din il-gazzetta, ghogbok tikteb hekk. Nahseb li inti u minn jahsibha bhalek iridu "JGHADDU Z-ZMIEN U JQARRQU BIL-POPLU MALTI U GHAWDXI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
George Camilleri
Jul 25th 2012, 08:23
School yard stuff... doesn't this country (more precisely, the government) have bigger problems to attented to rather than opening a new season of soap opera?
Shaun Anthony Camilleri
Jul 25th 2012, 07:04
So what? Still the PN denied that what their then member was going to do. They even made him a journalist for a day so that he could go to TVM and 'interview' Dr. Sant. So what is Mr. Bor-Olivier saying? That it was thanks to Mr. Muscat that they could lie about what Mr. Pullicino Orlando was up to before the election? That they lied to the electorate as they new it was true but they portrayed the revelation as an attack on one of their members based on a lie.
Joseph Scerri
Jul 25th 2012, 01:57
In the clip at 00:59-01:03 PBO is saying that it was theopposition leader that was Joseph Muscat.... this is wrong ...wasn't Dr. Sant opposition leader in 2008 during the Mistra affair ??
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 10:41
@ Joseph Scerri.
Could you please respect our intelligence and when you quote somebody, don't quote him "OUT OF CONTEXT".
PBO said that it was "Dr. Muscat" who had given the PN indications in 2008. The reference for JM as leader of the opposition was only mention at the end of this clip in order to hammer that it was the opposition through it's today's leader that had passed on the information to the PN
G.A. Scicluna
Jul 24th 2012, 23:43
so what??
Edmond Micallef
Jul 24th 2012, 22:58
Big deal. Another storm in a teacup.
Don't waste any more of the nation's precious time, dear PBO, with your puerile and silly press conferences. Instead of indulging in these silly games, it would be much better for GonziPN and Co. to investigate the numerous scandals and misdoings of their administration and try to rectify the damage done to the country, if this is at all possible.
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 10:49
@ Edmond Micallef.
Dear Mr. Micallef,
Have you reported " the numerous scandals and misdoings of their administration" to the authorities concerned because if you failed to do so, you share the same guilt as that of the administration "if found guilty" - "f'kelma wahda, inti tkun komplici jekk taf xi haga hazina u ma tirrappurtax!!"
A Tonna
Jul 24th 2012, 22:50
Is this the way of solving the current issues the country has? Is this the way for the PN to solve the issues it has within the party? Is this the way to reduce the debt? How pathetic can our politicians be !! How can people like this be taken seriously !! Ship of fools !!
Peter Simpson
Jul 24th 2012, 22:36
I is obvious that Joseph Muscat is talking to all and sundry and not through a'direct line' connected to Pieta as earlier versions of this 'dramatic' revelation tried to impress! Moreover, it is also obvious that GonziPN was guilty of a blatant 'montatura' in 2008 elections frame-up and against the honest Dr Alfred Sant; in 2008 ' is-sewwa ma rebahx''!
Victor Laiviera
Jul 24th 2012, 22:05
The PN is shooting itself in the foot big-time.
They keep reminding the people that, even when they found out that JPO was lying and Alfred Sant was 100% right, they continued to back him to the hilt. In effect, they sold their own supporters one big, fat lie.
Thank you for reminding us, Dr Borg-Olivier.
I bet Joe Saliba is banging his head against the wall somewhere.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 24th 2012, 21:59
I have just watched the clip showing Dr. mUscat speaking about an impending case of corruption. And challenging Dr. Gonzi to take action and not just refer the matter to the police !
Where has Dr. Muscat "hinted" or " leaked " anything about the Mistra affair, when Dr. Muscat, at that time was not even an official of the PL ????
Is it not obvious that Dr. Muscat, in this clip. was referring to some other case of corruption, of which we had plenty : the B.W.S.C. case, The Yacht Yard case, the Vat Department case. The Borg Hedley ( secretary of Tonio Fenech) case . etc.. etc.. !!!!!!!!
why wasn't the clip dated ??? PBO you have tried to deceive - as the PL has told you, but this will boomerang on to you and your GonziPN !!!!
Philip Grech
Jul 24th 2012, 21:23
Jista PBO jghidilna kif gew ghal konkluzzjoni li JM kien qed jghid ghal JPO u l-Mistra. 1) Jew dik kienet l-unika bicca korruzzjoni li kienet ghaddejja dak il-hin (ma nahsibx) jew 2) kienu jafu ezatt x'qed jigri f'dan il-kaz.
Ghawn xi hadd li jista jmeri din il-logika?
Colin Camilleri
Jul 24th 2012, 21:22
Dear PBO, now that is seems you have a lot of time on your hands, can you please answer the following relevant questions with honesty for a change?
a) What are you and your party doing to get Malta out of recession?
b) When are you going to issue new ID cards, something which you have promised so many times?
c) What are you doing to keep your promises about the constant pollutants emitted by the Delimara power station?
d) What are you doing to reduce national debt?
e) What are you doing to reduce unemployment, high taxes, utility bills, fuel and gas?
f) What are you doing to bring social justice and equality between gays, single parents, etc?
g) When are you going to give the right for unconditional union representation to the police?
h) When are you going to reward teachers and police for their hard work and overtime?
i) When are you going to fix the roads once and for all?
j) When are you going to reimburse us for the VAT charged additionally on already taxed brand new cars?
k) When are you going to give us a healthy COLA increase, similar in size and proportion to the 500 euro weekly increase your PM gave himself and his ministers?
l) When are we going to see reduction in waiting lists at Mater Dei?
m) When are we going to see less people in the corridors at Mater Dei?
n) When are you going to save Air Malta? and at what cost to us tax payers?
o) When are you going to complete the project at Bormla? are we people from the South less worth?
p) When are you going to get us the promised 5,600 jobs at Smart City?
and the questions go on and on and on... and you are wasting your and our precious time on who indicated whom in 2008 on Mistragate! When everyone knows how disonest GonziPN behaved to win the election not on its merits, but through deceit.
A Trapani
Jul 25th 2012, 10:20
.... one question to you Colin, when are you going to stop nagging and complaining about everything the government does and be positive in life ? Probably the answer is when you will see Joseph as our Prime Minister. Then he will surely be able to answer all your questions and Malta will become heaven on Earth with the youngest PM smiling upon us.
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 11:03
@ Colin Camilleri
Another question for you Colin:-
When Muscat's Labour Party is going to give back the properties snatched illegally by means of the "requestion orders" of that time TO THEIR PROPER OWNERS???????
Antoine Psaila
Jul 25th 2012, 13:31
@PHILIP HILI
Ghax ma ghamilix il-gvern Nazzjonalista f'25 sena ????
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 18:00
@ Antoine Psaila
Il-gvern Nazzjonalista qatt ma ghamel dawn il-hnizrijiet!!!
Biex trodd lura dak li tkun hadt illegalment ma hemmx bzonn tkun fil-gvern. Jigifieri mill-bankijiet ta' l-oppozizzjoni, Muscat's Labour Party seta' iroddha lura din il-propjieta' IMMA MA RIDTX U GHADU MA JRIDTX irodd lura l-propjeta' li ha minn ghand il-publiku, liema propieta kien ghamel uzu minnha ghal kazini laburisti. Dik hi il-verita' u l-ebda argument ma ser ihassar din il-verita'.
Antoine Psaila
Jul 25th 2012, 19:55
@Philip Hili
Jien saqsejtek ghax ma qabdux u hadu azzjoni il-Gvern Nazzjonalista f'dawn il-25 sena jekk dak li qed tighd inti huwa minnhu.Insomma meta nisma argumenti bhal dawn ninduna kemma ma fadlilkhomx affarijiet ma xix taqbdu.
Philip Hili
Jul 27th 2012, 15:20
@ Antoine Psaila
" jekk dak li qed tighd inti huwa minnhu." hawn is-sur Antoine Psaila qieghed jirreferi ghal postijjiet li kienu gew rekwizizzjonati minn Muscat Labour Party biex jaghmlhom kazini laburisti rz. Santa Venera, Rabat - ex Police station, Lija - ex Police Station, u hafna ohrajn.
Issa dan is-sinjur qieghed jghid "jekk dak li qed tighd inti huwa minnhu.I"!!!!!
Dan irid idahhaq? Mela ma kienx jghix f'Malta, jew ghadu jiehu l-gazaza biex ma jaf li Muscat Labour Party kien ha propjieta privata minn ghand l-individwi biex jaghmilhom kazini laburisti???
Eddy Privitera
Jul 24th 2012, 20:51
Funny how GonziPN apologists have latched on to something which is irrelevant today in order to divert attention to WHAT HAS JUST HAPPENED JUST A FEW DAYS AGO - when JPO succeeded in highjacking the GonziPN government by forcing Lawrence Gonzi to accept his demands, namely, that Dr. Gonzi MUST consult Dr. JPO before certain Bills can be brought for debate in parliament !!!!
Where else have a similar thing happened in Europe ?? A prime minister having to get the approval of an MP who had just resigned from the prime minister's own parliamentary group !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 11:13
@ Eddy Privitera.
Maa! how funny your comment is!!
If by your imagination you classify "funny GonziPN apologists have latched on to something which is irrelevant today in order to divert attention to WHAT HAS JUST HAPPENED JUST A FEW DAYS AGO - when JPO succeeded in highjacking the GonziPN government by forcing Lawrence Gonzi to accept his demands, namely, that Dr. Gonzi MUST consult Dr. JPO before certain Bills can be brought for debate in parliament !!!!", aren't you contributing with us when answering our comments and therefore you are as much funny as we are?
j brincat
Jul 24th 2012, 20:24
@Joseph Cauchi Senior
"This recent revelation by JPO, of Joseph Muscat hinting about the discovery of the Mistragate scandal thus undermining Alfred Sant’s position has made many of the ‘commenters’ in this column see RED!"
Those living in glass houses should not throw stones.
The PN has not be "undermined" BUT torpedoed AND from within.
The usual spins by the PN as part of the damage control strategy to deviate attention away from it and throw it on target no 1 - Dr Muscat. And it will be so till the next election.
Really deja vu!
(jb)
M Grima
Jul 24th 2012, 20:23
Just because GonziPN is in complete disarray it comes up with this silly spin of a story. Irrespective of what Dr. Muscat may have said 4 years why did they have to dig this story now? Everyone knows that they are desperate but no one had a clue that they are that desperate to score some silly brownie points.
The real issue in that they knew what JPOS was up to and they camouflaged the whole affair which has now been thrown back again at their sulky faces. They should have acted like a proper democratic party would have acted, they should have expelled JPOS and not carry his sorry story for four long years. And the irony of all this is that the silly weeping puppy was being strategically guided to act as he did by Joe Saliba and RCC.
It seems that GonziPN have shifted in the course of a couple of weeks from the 'politics of appeasement' to the 'politics of hypocrites'
W Cassar
Jul 24th 2012, 19:50
So what Malta has more pressing times to see to than this mud slinging... as if its going to help the national debt ... bunch of kids!
m. borg (slm)
Jul 24th 2012, 19:47
Why did PBO did not invite ONE NEWS for the press conference?
Coward what were you afraid of?
natasha peters
Jul 24th 2012, 19:36
It would be better for Dr Borg Olivier to investigate who really leaked the information in 2008, somebody who was close to the prime minister, the PL said.
Can this ever be believed.....The best form of defece is attack. That is what Muscat is doing. getting on his party to defend his actions while he enjoys summer.
Can anybody explain why, as a new leader of the labour party, Muscat did not deny IMMEDIATELY 2008 the facts divuldged by Joe Saliba...ONE WEEK AFTER MUSCAT WAS ELECTED IN OFFICE..
it was too close to deny.....4 years on, people tend to forget, so it may be worth denying (Muscat may have thought)
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 24th 2012, 19:31
CORRECTION PLEASE!
This recent revelation by PBO, of Joseph Muscat hinting about the discovery of the Mistragate scandal thus undermining Alfred Sant’s position has made many of the ‘commenters’ in this column see RED!
They are all attacking the messenger, instead of attacking the message!
Was it Joseph Muscat’s role to interfere and at the same time undermine the efforts of his then leader, Alfred Sant by sending mixed messages to the enemy that might have been beneficial to the PN but at the same time damaging to the leader Alfred Sant and the Malta Labour Party?
I think, this is the question one has to ask and not attack personally PBO!
JC.
19.24
M Grima
Jul 24th 2012, 20:27
The message is quite clear and simple for those who do not use thick blue blinkers. The whole issue is how GonziPN camouflaged the Mistragate affair after it transpired that JPOS took them for a ride or else.
Who said the PN was crumbling? (with apologies to Gordon).
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jul 25th 2012, 09:59
that's because the 'messenger' gave a stupid message... Since when does the PN care so much about Alfred Sant being (allegedly) back stabbed?
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 24th 2012, 19:24
This recent revelation by JPO, of Joseph Muscat hinting about the discovery of the Mistragate scandal thus undermining Alfred Sant’s position has made many of the ‘commenters’ in this column see RED!
They are all attacking the messenger, instead of attacking the message!
Was it Joseph Muscat’s role to interfere and at the same time undermine the efforts of his then leader, Alfred Sant by sending mixed messages to the enemy that might have been beneficial to the PN but at the same time damaging to the leader Alfred Sant and the Malta Labour Party?
I think, this is the question one has to ask and not attack personally JBO!
JC.
Colin Camilleri
Jul 24th 2012, 19:52
Well, no ones needs to attack PBO. He is very good at shooting himself in the foot and playing second fiddle to GonziPN. If GonziPN tells us who has leaked the information about JPO to the PL would be better! Unless of course, you prefer that the PL shall name and shame the person!
Although, honestly, many have already a very accurate impression who this person is!
Since when have you Alfred Sant and the MLP at heart? Havent you forgot who has leaked the information about Sant's health to the media? The most deplorable action by any standards?
Is this all the proof GonziPN boasted so much about? I see RCC`s voice recordings much more damaging to the GonziPN image than anything else.... A PN mastermind criticizing (at the very least) people from HIS OWN PARTY!
George Cutajar
Jul 24th 2012, 19:16
The PL's statement simply adds fuel to the fire. It is immaterial whether JM was acting in his official capacity or not.
Is it a fact that in 2008 JM was very close to Labour leader Alfred Sant?
Is it a fact or not that the PN got the first hint of what was to come through JM's public declarations?
Is it a fact or not that had JM not made any public declaration the PN would have been caught off guard with the collateral damage that was intended?
It is immaterial at this stage whether JM acted in his personal capacity or not in divulging sensitive information. The fact remain that the information reached the PN and they not only managed to limit the damage but indeed turned the whole Mistra fiasco into an opportunity which could possibly have been the trump card in the PN winning that election.
What is however more amazing and has not yet been explained is how today - in 2012 - JPOS has become the darling of the PL when back in 2008 he was vilified and scorned upon by most of the PL and above all by JM himself. This is what the PL should explain in clear and unequivocal terms.
As regards the PN's stand vis a vis the Mistra scandal it has now emerged clearer than ever that up to a few days before the election the PN was not aware of all that was going on since JPOS did not come clean and did not furnish all the information. It was only on the basis of what the PN had in hand at that moment in time that they could act as they did. Had JPOS come clean it could well have been a different story.
S Scerri
Jul 24th 2012, 21:55
Mr. Cutajar, I bet you have one dvd, one cd and one radio and tv station. How boring to play the same tune all the time. You have to be heavily brainwashed to play mono in repetition
Philip Hili
Jul 25th 2012, 11:28
@ S Scerri
Dear Mr Scerri,
There is no need to have "one dvd, one cd and one radio and tv station" because WE lived those terrible days!! Maybe you are of a tender age in order not to remember the facts.
As regards brainwashing, it seems you are an expert in this subject because you are playing mono the repetition others are saying when you do not know the facts.
JB Caruana
Jul 24th 2012, 19:09
Proves also the lies that PN threw at us at that time on this issue!!! What does PBO think he is gaining with all this fuss on something that his party should be ashamed of?...What kind of strategy is this....
martin Padovani
Jul 24th 2012, 19:26
Simple...............to unmask Muscat's lies
Joe Vella
Jul 24th 2012, 19:00
PL REACTION
"In a reaction, the PL said Dr Borg Olivier's press conference was a ridiculous attempt to deceive.
Only Dr Borg Olivier could somehow think that Dr Muscat in his official capacity could leak such information on national TV days before the election."
The Pl in its' reaction is saying that Dr. Muscat couldn't have leaked the information in his official Capacity. Now, whether he did so in his official capacity or not is irrelevant. The fact remains that Joseph Muscat did reveal/hinted that an issue about corruption was going to be revealed by the PL in the coming days and that the Prime Minister was going to be called to task. By these revelations by Joseph Muscat, PL leader, undermined Alfred Sant in the last election.
victor bonello
Jul 24th 2012, 18:38
what won GonziPN the 2008 election had nothing to do with Mistra, but the hundreds of people flown in at the very last minute...
Emanuel. Vella.
Jul 25th 2012, 11:00
fejn qatt fl-istorja ta l-elezzjonijiet generali ta pajjizzna,
ittawlet siegha biex in-nies ikomplu ivvutaw ?.
lanqas qatt fl-istorja ta pajjizzna,imma kif qal LG qabel
l-elezzjoni generali ta 2008,li gonzipn 'FLIMKIEN KOLLOX POSSIBLI',
u hekk hu.
Paul@ Micallef
Jul 24th 2012, 18:22
If what PBO is saying is the truth, than he should be thanking Joseph Muscat for passing the PN the information. I am being cheeky here. But then I expect PBO to tell us who is the person close to the Prime Minister that leaked the information to the PL in 2008. That is something PBO can do quite easily because it has come out of his own camp.
Charles Massa
Jul 24th 2012, 18:20
Hallina PBO. Ahjar bhal segretarju generali tara l-inkwiet li ghandkom fil-partit u mhux tipprova taljena l-poplu x gara 4 snin ilu. Il-poplu il-lum irid ikun jaf se taghmlu jekk tirbhu l-elezzjoni. Aktar ma issemmu l-passat ,turu bic-car li ma ghandkomx xi tmaqdru fil -policies tal PL imexxi minn Dr Muscat
Leo Said
Jul 24th 2012, 18:18
Pardon, while viewing the video clip offered online by the Times of Malta, I personally could not be convinced that the respective video clip encompasses conclusive evidence.
The feature with Dr. Joseph Muscat has no tag re date and location, as is usual with similar clips used as reference.
I would have expected more tangible details from Dr. Paul Borg Oliver. Would hints of simple nature have any legal weight?
j brincat
Jul 24th 2012, 18:13
Hasn't PBO anything better to say?
By now we all know who are the masters of all spins!
In this day and age these antics impress nobody except the very gullible and these do not win you an election.
But then we are in the silliest of all seasons and one an expect anything!
(jb)
tony abela
Jul 24th 2012, 18:12
To try these low level spins, it shows the misery state the GonziPN or at least PBO is in.
One thing is sure that the PN spinned the Mistragate and deprived Malta from good governance for the last four and a half years and put the country at least 30 years backwards.
If anything, PBO is confirming the way the PN spins issues out of proportion and they cheat as necessary to stay in power.
Cwiec Maltin open your eyes and expect more of this in the coming weeks and months.
Ethelbert Schembri
Jul 24th 2012, 18:05
PBO .
By what you showed in that clip Joseph didn't say nothing in particular, on the contrary it shows clearly how corrupt is the PN by hiding a clear case of corruption and now trying to deviate and hide by accusing Dr Muscat of something he clearly didn't do!!
I think after the PN heard what he said in this clip, they where baffled to which one of the many cases they hide, he is actually referring too !!
anton cassar
Jul 24th 2012, 17:53
Its funny that PBO invited the media for a press conference but did not PL media. Why ?
Pierre Vassallo
Jul 24th 2012, 17:47
Speaking in football terms, Muscat scored an own goal!!!!! What goes around comes around.
A Camilleri
Jul 24th 2012, 20:18
Exactly. Part of Joe's long term plan to become the youngest prime minister.
S Scerri
Jul 24th 2012, 22:01
What a unique coach ! Capello , Fergie u ohrajn qed jibzu li jitilfu posthom !
Eve Axiaq
Jul 24th 2012, 17:30
Nahseb biex din l-affari bla sugu ma ngebbduhiex aktar Il PL ghandu jikxef min hu dik il- persuna qrib Gonzi, b'hekk iz-zejt jitla fil- wicc.
Alfred Falzon
Jul 24th 2012, 17:27
With all due respect, I no longer believe what the PN has to say.
Victor Vella
Jul 24th 2012, 17:14
Paul Borg Olivier do not try to hide your bluff. The Mistra case is no more an issue. We have to look at the future of this nation. You are trying to fall to the same trap to the person who issued the Mistra syndrome. Now in your party you have deep cracks and internally you hold a divided front. Internally you are not in a position to continue governing this nation. This is the issue PBO. Do not continue to take the people for a ride. You are no more credible and your integrity is zero.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 24th 2012, 17:27
These are facts that are disturbing for the PL. In opposition and AS goes at a tangent to his leader - not just on this case but also, and more seriously, during the parliament discussion on Euro and assistance to other Member States.
Literally translated the Maltese use a very apt saying "If you spit in the sky it will return to your face".
Joe Fenech
Jul 24th 2012, 17:11
Sakemm il-politici u n-nies involuti fil-politika ha jibqghu ikunu telghuni mill-hama tal-partit, il-pajjiz ha jibqa' jiffaccja din il-medjokrita ta' nies!
Neville Pace
Jul 24th 2012, 17:09
Unbelieveable....! all the people in here are deaf to the truth about the facts outlined in the press conference.
Can anyone explain how Joseph Muscat goes straight on holiday and bang....Sant gives a comment that goes against the Party line...contradicting his own leader....
Google "Joe saliba 2008 mistra tiemsofmalta", google "maltatoday 2008 jason micallef mistra" and you will easily find out that Joseph Muscat is far away from the truth.
Joseph Muscat needs alot of expalining why he did not rebut the clamis made 4 years ago....ANY OF YOU LOT IN HERE CAN EXPLAIN PERHAPS....????. PN keep up the good work on this. (MINN JATTAKKA PERSONALI, KIF QED ISIR LIL PBO JFISSER LI TILEF L-ARGUMENT...)
M Farrugia
Jul 24th 2012, 17:35
Habib jekk qieghed tistenna risposta minghand xi wihed mill-orakli tal-LP. li jiktbu hawnhekk ir-risposta hija jew mhux fl-interess tal-poplu li jkun jaf jew inkella nghidulek il-quddiem.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jul 24th 2012, 17:37
why does he need to explain anything exactly??
Do you think anybody (apart from maybe the few remaining people with blue blinders) give a hoot to what happened back in 2008 especially with all this global and local turmoil???
The people are not deaf... just sick and tired of getting their intelligence insulted by these dirty politics (POLITRICKS!) and simply as I said before DO NOT CARE about the Mistra issue...
Recap of what happened :
JPO came out crying in public, Alfred Sant got humiliated, the PN won the election (I for one was very happy about it at that time!... stupid me!), eventually the truth surfaced (while the PN stood comfortably on the throne), the issue was put under the carpet because obviously didn't give the government much of a good image and now, four years down the line the PN wants to expose the 'blue truth'!!!
I ask again... WHY SHOULD ANYBODY CARE????
same goes for JM going on a three day holiday!
m. borg (slm)
Jul 24th 2012, 17:48
Neville if Dr Sant wanted to stir the water he could have done it any time but unlike gonzipn we are a close knit part that is setting up a movement for all those who have been hit hard or neglected by gonzipn even die hard NAZZJONALISTI.
The more the movement is made up of different points of view the less is the possibility of having cliques and oligarchies.
Patrick Zammit
Jul 24th 2012, 17:02
Irrespective of whether or not what PBO is saying is true, what everybody should learn from Mistragate is the fact that GonziPN and his oligarchy are so good at spinning and duping the electorate that they can turn a very harmful situation into one that instead, attracts more votes and leads them to a victory.
Obviously, they do this by forgetting the much flaunted "Christian values" and deceive and manipulate in a way that would put the devil to shame.
Paul Azzopardi
Jul 24th 2012, 17:00
PBO ...so what the whole point of bringing this up again?..Doesnt anyone give you any advice on what the public is interested to hear about and what he is not...cause we are not amused.
You'd do better in trying to do what the public put you on the seat for and that is to do something useful for the public not PARTY EGO !!! What are we paying these people for?? Really!!
Spin doctor needing spin doctor lessons..please apply
Vincent Borg
Jul 24th 2012, 16:39
Paul Borg Olivier, il-poplu serjeta u respett irid mill Partit Nazzjonalista u mhux aljenazioni wara l-ohra.
Pawl il-Poplu l-ghaqal irid jara hiereg mill Partit u mhux instabillita, u bi glied intern ma jistax jimxi Pajjiz
Adrian Buckle
Jul 24th 2012, 16:37
yawn
Pierre Ciappara
Jul 24th 2012, 16:37
Sur PAwl ghid il shabek johorguna mir recession...bdan il paroli fil vojt iktar ha titfaw il pajjiz ghal gol-hajt....
Grazzi
Mr M Spiteri
Jul 24th 2012, 16:37
Dr Borg Olivier,
Actually i really cannot see any of your arguments. The point is that Gonzi PN lied to the nation aboutr mistra. Actually Dr Borg Olivier you are admitting that Gonzi PN realised what was going to happened and spinned the matter.
m. borg (slm)
Jul 24th 2012, 16:33
Coming up with a second volley only means one thing.
Hardly anybody took any notice the first time.
PBO why are you wasting your energy on something that has no importance, is this how Austin,RCC and Joe Saliba keep you busy and out of their way?
Mr M Spiteri
Jul 24th 2012, 20:12
tajba din
Joseph Bugeja
Jul 24th 2012, 16:31
Kien ahjar li gibt il filmat ta JPO jibki, forsi in nies jergghu jithasru lil GONZIPN !!!
Ieqaf ahli il hin PBO !!!
Frans Aguis
Jul 24th 2012, 16:29
Oh please PBO
M Portelli
Jul 24th 2012, 16:28
Good lord is this man serious and he patronisingly assumes he can tell us what and how to think! "The issue now is not Mistra but Dr. Muscat hiding his actions" ! Dr. PBO is incredible, Mistragate, the potential ruin of a pristine habitat was of no consequence, was it ? In someone's warped and very narrow world view perhaps. Don't tell us you're on a mission to rehabilitate Dr. Alfred Sant now why don't you pull the other one seeing Dr. Sant wasn't a bully and was spot on the truth. Honestly the only thing that is obvious is Dr. Borg Olivier's propensity to insult the electorate. How long is this charade going to last, some European democratic dream this is evolving into!
Joseph Brincat
Jul 24th 2012, 16:22
PN General Secretary Paul Borg Olivier
Who cares about who passed the information if it's the PN or the PL !!
We care about the jobs gonzi pn created ,9922 jobs only one third were full time the rest part time AND
55% of 9922 are there main gob , that mines they are beyond poverty line GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEM
Joseph Gatt
Jul 24th 2012, 16:19
If the comments on these political threads are any indication, the PN is in for a major beating in the next election whenever it comes. They deserve nothing less
Noel Abela
Jul 24th 2012, 16:13
Wonders of wonders, if this is all the ammunition that GonziPn have against Dr Joseph Muscat then we are in for a not such a big surprise. Pawlu Borg Olivier must think that by inflating this story he can gain some political ground, obviously not. If GonziPn think that this petty story will win them the election then they better prepare themselves for the opposition seats.
Mario Camilleri
Jul 24th 2012, 16:08
Qed jipprova jara jsibx xi dnub venjal f'ħaddieħor biex jagħtti d-dnubiet il-mejta tagħhom?
Pawl, għadek ma tagħallimt xejn minn din is-saga tagħkom li aktar mat-tawwal aktar agħar?
Anke jekk dan huwa minnu, il-ħsara mhux x'għamel persuna biex wassal l-aħbar imma il-ħażen diżonest politiku tagħkom li għamiltu intom fuq Alfred Sant. L-oħra hija li tradejtu lil poplu biex jemmen lilkom li filfatt kontu intom li qed tqarqu bl-istess polpu.
Pawl jien nieħu pjaċier qiegħed b'din l-opera u aktar ma titwal aktar nidħak u aktar ngħid kemm għandi raġun ma nivvotalkomx.
Colin Camilleri
Jul 24th 2012, 16:04
Why do I have the feeling that PBO shall soon turn up in a conference given by Joseph Muscat as a journalist, uninvited, weeping and begging the same Joseph Muscat why is he not admitting all these "accusations"?
Why do I have the feeling that GonziPN have embarked to get rid of their weakest links by sending them to the "sharks" to feast on?
Why do I have the feeling that it is backfiring, since the sharks are smart enough never to eat the left overs of others, let alone the cheapest prey the others can offer?
John B. Borg
Jul 24th 2012, 16:21
The PN ship with Lawrence Gonzi at the helm and PBO as First Mate isleaking from all sides and sinking fast.
R. Balzan
Jul 24th 2012, 16:04
This minnow of a politician should be seen and not heard. Every time he opens his mouth he's damaging his party more than anything else. In case he doesn't know it, is incompetency as party secretary is one of the main reasons why the PN has relegated itself to the second division.
m farrugia
Jul 24th 2012, 16:37
exactly and unfortunately gonzi is being being blamed for borg olivier's failure.
borg olivier's role is to run the party, pn parliamentary group etc. and gonzi should focus more on running the country. but borg olivier has failed miserably in his role and gonzi gets the blame.
borg olivier is turning out to be worse than jason micallef. pity for the pn.
and now jpo's story is over and does borg olivier think that we are still interested from where copy of contract was leaked etc, etc. better start working on some decent billboards such as a possilbe pl cabinet should pl be elected.
hope pn campaign will be somewhat better than mep campaign claiming that labour meps pressed wrong voting button in brussels. it is possible that pn could only come with such a poor idea when there was so much to criticise labour on hindering malta from joining the EU by even withdrawing EU membership application when joe muscat was very active in the party. did labour really deserve electing four meps when pn elected only two. it was clearly borg olivier's first failure, wrong strategy.
R. Balzan
Jul 24th 2012, 18:30
@ m. farrugia - which all goes to prove how right Gonzi was when he confided that he is surrounded by a bunch of incompetent good-for-nothings (not in so many words) both in his cabinet and in his parliamentary group. Now it turns out that the party secretary is the most incompetent of all.
M Saliba
Jul 24th 2012, 16:00
Qed jitfa l-ħatab fuq in-nar meta kulhadd saħnitlu rasu, Aħjar jgħidilna x'qed jagħmel dwar il-budget tal-2013.
G Pace
Jul 24th 2012, 15:58
Biex tirbhu elezzjoni ohra tridu taraw ma xix taqbdu......Ahjar tghidilna fuq il 500 ewro zieda li ha l PM u shabu minn wara dahar il poplu u s 7,000 ewro kull sena jekk ministru ma jibdilx il karozza.....Ahjar tghidilna fuq l inkwiet KBIR li ghandkhom internament.....Kemm qbiztu ghal JPO 4 snin ilu...issa d diska daret hux....u minflok tipprovaw tattakaw lil Joseph Muscat, x jahti dan ?.....Ahjar tara l istat ta toroq li ghandna fil pajjiz wara li 25 sena ilu Fenech Adami kien weghdna li se jkollna toroq bhal ta barra.....Jien emmintu dak iz zmien....imma darba blajtha s sunnara......ili ma nivvota sa mil 1987 u hekk se nibqa.ex pn
Kevin Marks
Jul 24th 2012, 16:11
U fuq it 8000 impjieg ta smart city
X Borg
Jul 24th 2012, 15:57
PBO - You are flogging a dead horse. We just don't care.
J Busuttil
Jul 24th 2012, 16:40
@ X.Borg
Iva issa flogging a dead horse, as it is not music to your ears.
Kevin Marks
Jul 24th 2012, 15:54
kemm tahsbuhom bhahen in nies? dan il kas mhux qabel l elezzjoni ta 2008 kien? Mela kif il caption tal filmat tghid Joseph Muscat Kap ta l Oppozizzjoni? Mela dakhinar mhux A Sant kien kap???.......Is soltu ohra minn tieghek PBO sibtu filmat ta kumbinazzjoni xi korruzzjoni ohra 99% li ta BWSC kien dal filmat u spiiiiin ta s soltu...Qbadnik pawl
john muscat
Jul 24th 2012, 15:53
Now that PBO is confirming that the PN knew about the Mistra scandal, is more than ever dropping the stone on his own foot as the Maltese saying says. More than that it shows how the PN was and is always dishonest not to condemn JPO at that time and give DR. A. Sant his due.
R Axisa
Jul 24th 2012, 15:50
The issue now was not Mistra itself, Dr Paul Borg Olivier said, but how Dr Muscat was now trying to hide his actions.
Unbelievable PBO - The issue is how Dr Alfred Sant was right about the Mistra saga and you made people believe that there was nothing wrong, coaching JPO how to act. Even JPO now admitted how he was used in the matter by the PN. And now that the truth has surfaced, the PN wants us to believe your spin. We have had enought of the PN lies - better concentrate on other more important things.
This is confirming what Franco Debono confirmed about Gonzi - to attach the PL EVERYDAY!
Eve Axiaq
Jul 24th 2012, 15:50
X'inhi r raguni li PBO qaghad jaghmel konferenza stampa fuq dan il kaz biex jirrepeti l-istess haga? Stramba l bicca
John Mifsud
Jul 24th 2012, 15:48
Aktar ma' jghaddu l-granet, aktar nikkonvinci ruhi li PN ixxotta kompletament mill-ideat. Ma nafx ghaliex, izda PBO ma jikkoncincini xejn,
Il-poplu mhux minn dawn il-vavati u cucati jimpurtah, izda kif u min se johorgu minn din il-morsa li jinsab fiha. Il-faxxa tan-nofs tilfet hafna mill-'puchasing power' taghha, u l-pensjonanti marru ghoxrin sena lura.
Mela, sinjuri politici (jew ahjar politikanti), dejjaqtuna u xebbajtuna tippruvaw taljenawna mill-problemi li ninsabu fihom, mela jekk joghgobkhom middu ghonqhom ghax xoghol, jew ghadkom m'intkhomx kuntenti li fil-parlament tidhlu sitt xhur biss fis-sena?!!
Carmel Gatt
Jul 24th 2012, 15:45
Kif xebbajtu lil kulhadd! We are fed up to our eyeballs with all this. You call yourselves politicians with the interest of the country at heart? You look like a bunch of squalling children quarelling over a toy. And I speak of ALL politicians from BOTH political parties.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jul 24th 2012, 19:11
Amen!
S Muscat
Jul 25th 2012, 09:08
Prosit. Nhgidlek jiena li hadd minnhom ma qieghed hemm ghal gid tal-pajjiz!! Min kien hekk ma irnexxiex fil-politika ghax tajruh il-barra!!!
Victor Laiviera
Jul 24th 2012, 15:41
I am really surprised that the PN is keeping this story alive because it shows, more than anything else, how dishonest ans cynical the PN was - and is.
They are basically admitting that, even when they found out that Alfred Sant was 100% right, they continued to back JPO.
They are admitting that, for the PN, anything goes to satisfy their craving for power.
Mr Christian Cassar-Torregiani
Jul 24th 2012, 15:41
Can I pass on a message to all those PN/PL politicos who believe that all this bickering and reminiscing over who said what/where/why/how will earn extra brownie points ?
The sad but real truth is.....it will not.
What the great majority of the population wants to hear from each political party is how/whether :
a) The respective parties are putting together a potential team of properly assessed, team-worthy candidates for the forthcoming elections. Are they ALL prepared to work not just for their party, but for their country ? Or is it just personal ambition ?
and how/whether :
b) The next election's successfully elected candidates will be working under a realistic (in contrast to wish-listed) programme of far-sighted policies that will offer better social, economic , health, and environmental standards for our population.
Whatever else is said and done by politicians/political parties at this point, is actually superfluous.
Carmel Gatt
Jul 24th 2012, 15:47
Well said indeed.
J Degabriele
Jul 24th 2012, 16:31
This is what right-thinking people want!
Joe Vella
Jul 24th 2012, 17:35
How you can expect Joseph Muscat to give a team of people of the future? He has many people of the past like Leo Brincat Karmenu Vella George Vella Marie Louis Coleiro Anglu Farrugia.
R Axisa
Jul 24th 2012, 19:47
@Joe Vella - dejjem l-istess kantaliena. Zgur li mhux se nafda lil min se jhalli johrog ghall-elezzjoni lil dak li ha l-eluf kbar biex ghamel ir-rotot il-godda tal-Arriva u kienu vroma kbira. Litteralment ha l-flus ta' xejn. Mur afdah b'xi ministeru lil dan!
Paul Borg
Jul 24th 2012, 15:41
Ibqa sejjer biha Pawlu, ha taghmel iktar hsara u teghreq iktar fil fond. Mhux ahjar tikkoncentra fuq l-ewwel ta Ottubru u kif se jkompli ix xoghol fil Parlament., Jekk tasarkhom kollha f daqqa ma tohrog Politiku wiehed min tas 60's. Tintilfu fix xenati biss. Kif ma tisthix tghid li int mill Belt, Imnalla tlaqt mill kunsill.
Louis Craus
Jul 24th 2012, 15:28
" trying to hide his actions " over Mistra.
U meta hbejtu il- Eu 500 zieda fil- gimgha ghal Ministri mhux intom kontu.?
U fuq kollox int qed titkellem,ma ghandikx fuq x'hiex tinkwieta ,daqs dak tahwid fil- Partit ?
Deo Catania
Jul 24th 2012, 15:26
Issa li harget il-verita kollha dwar il-Mistra bis-sahha ta' Gordon Pisani, gonzipn qed jara x'jivvinta biex jatti l-hnizrija ta' kif rebah l-ahhar elezzjoni u juza l-istess kaz kontra JPO inniffsu. Ivvinta xeba gideb u qabbad lill-puppet PBO johrog ipecclaq 'l hemm u 'l hawn. Vera partit spiccut u moqziez.
Peter Simpson
Jul 24th 2012, 15:25
I f were the PN I'll go and hide in a dark corner; its now becoming clear that GonziPN, somehow, framed up Dr Alfred Sant: JPO himself said it-straight from the horse's mouth! The less said the better in Mistra!
Doreen Gatt
Jul 24th 2012, 15:23
Mr Borg Olivier do you think...do you actually really believe that we, the hard-working normal citizens of this country care who leaked what to whom and when? What I care about is what you did with the information and what you really did do is covering it up so that you dont lose the election and remained in power!!
For me what matters the most is that you lower the income tax rate as you had promised you would do, because that would make a bit of difference in my life. Other than that all this nonsense about the Mistra case has now grown stale and is totally irrelevant to whoever is working his fingers to the bones to try and make a decent living.
Malcolm Farrugia
Jul 24th 2012, 17:48
To me this smells too much of the usual pre-election GonziPn tantrums. They know that they failed miserably during the current legislature, and they sent PBO to be the party's sacrificial lamb in front of the media. After all PBO is well know for the erroneous "mistakes" he makes. He for one should try to speak less about leakages!
Norbert Abela
Jul 24th 2012, 15:21
LOOOOOOOOOOL, I pity you Pawlu... keep on the great work :-)
M Grima
Jul 24th 2012, 15:18
How sad of PBO to resort to a press conference as if he has discovered another America. By now not only the labourites but also the nationalists are bored stiff with the Mistragate story wherein your party's maneuvers and outcome have discredited your party's credentials.
Mr A. Cassar
Jul 24th 2012, 15:18
So what ???? Dr. Paul B O . You seem to have nothing important to do as Sect. General, so you choose to call a press conference and comment on something so insignificat of the past with no news value at all.
Joseph Micallef
Jul 24th 2012, 15:18
PBO.... are you serious? Is it possible? I watched yesterday's news on your station and Dr. Muscat has done ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong.. he didn't mention any names... and what's the big deal about this? If this was so, you should be the first person to thank him!!!! Is it possible? don't you have any internal matters, fights, cockroach to take care of?
You have the luxury to concentrate of Dr. Muscat while your party is falling into pieces????? CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME PBO! It would be better if you listen to what the Commissioner for Data Protection has warned you rather then concentrating your energy on PL!
Joey Tribbiani
Jul 24th 2012, 15:17
Ara vera il PN ghandu segretarju generali good for nothing! B'dan il-mod irid jigbed in-nies lejn il-partit? Ahjar jara kif se solvi l-forġa interna li ghandu mela moħħu fl-ghanqbut.
Mark Brincat
Jul 24th 2012, 15:15
The PN seriously needs to hire new spin doctors
M Grima
Jul 24th 2012, 15:14
Wow Pawlu, what a scoop!!!!
The issue is not what Dr. Muscat did or did not do, but GonziPN defending that little weeping puppy, JPOS, when it knew all along that he had entered into a contract to turn his land into a disco complex. Keep to the real issues and do not try to alienate the electorate. .
S Scerri
Jul 24th 2012, 15:07
The PN can't be more suicidal, by putting it's dumbest person in front of a microphone. I hope they put him live in front of a camera during the election campaign as I am sure he will score points ! This guy is simply a non starter. I remember PN supporters picking and teasing him before the general election when they heard he was going to contest, the rest is statistical history. He ended up Sec. General and the result will also go down in history. Some people don't think before they speak, ohh sorry ,to think you need brains !
J. D. Farrugia
Jul 24th 2012, 15:20
... your para says all :)
Barney Camilleri
Jul 24th 2012, 15:24
As I keep saying. If the PN will not get out the professions (old party members) NL have a walk over.
It is not the jacket and a tie that win votes, it is how able you are to come down to where the people are and convince.
Stop trying to gain sympathy on something of so long ago. We are interested why the country in bankrupt and not what one said and the other answered, that we leave for street corner talk.
J Mangion
Jul 24th 2012, 15:27
Scerri..................I cannot agree with you more !!!!!!! well said !!!!!!!!!! what a donkey he is :)
Alex Falzon
Jul 24th 2012, 15:04
Now its the time to start putting the PL in a tight corner... as they did in the last years...
Their media doesn't know any limits.... in criticising and portrait a negative image to our country and negativity in people's mind
G Schembri
Jul 24th 2012, 15:54
If this is the only thing they have on JM, they have nothing. Both parties used different strategies before the elections, so JM might have been given the task of letting the cat out of the bag, and JPO was given the task of crying in front of the cameras. Hopefully the Maltese electorate have matured enough to chose these silly things from the real issues.
Alex Cutajar
Jul 24th 2012, 15:04
Too bad borg olivier always had problems on hiding confidential emails
marco caruana
Jul 24th 2012, 15:03
dr.PBO ---- l Aktar segretarju generali fallut li qatt kellu l PN !
Mr CHARLES TANTI
Jul 24th 2012, 15:47
Prosit Marco 100% Verrrrrrrrrrrrrru
Henry S Pace
Jul 24th 2012, 15:02
' Dr Muscat had then, in a conversation, passed on the information about the Mistra campaign '
This is the new breed of Politicians
Jesmond Chetcuti
Jul 24th 2012, 15:00
is this issue relevant to what is happening in the country at the moment? Thats how the PN wants to allienate the people? the government is in disarry and is clutching at straws....the end is near...
Frank Massa
Jul 24th 2012, 15:44
Watch ONE News and direct the same question to the PL media and you will get your answer!!!!!!
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Jul 25th 2012, 00:46
Attack is the best form of defence. A clear case of scraping the barrel. THE PN is truly imploding.
Norbert Abela
Jul 24th 2012, 14:55
Dear Pawlu, the only truth about the Mistra case is that DR ALFRED SANT WAS RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING AND GONZIPN DENIED EVERYTHING before the 2008 election to gain more votes… fl ahhar iz zejt jitla f wicc l ilma!!!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 24th 2012, 15:35
Who told you so?
The only fact is that the PL cannot even manage a deck of winning cards. The issue here (at least so far) was not one of corruption but one of someone trying to exploit his own belongings to the detriment of the environment for personal gain.
Had Sant made better use of this, the PN would not have been able to defend itself. But this was one of the countless misjudgements by Sant - in this case Muscat didn't help either, because being the amateur he is, he could help keeping his mouth shut.
Alex Falzon
Jul 24th 2012, 15:46
Kollu minnu... pero l-istqarrijiet tal-PL jindikaw li l-PN qatt ma kienu jafu bl-agir ta JPO...
U allura tahseb li jkun sew li partit (PL jew PN) jitlef elezzjoni a skapitu ta kandidat?
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jul 24th 2012, 14:53
PBO wouldn't it be better to just send JM a thank you card and stop whining on this issue once and for all!
Darren Bugeja
Jul 24th 2012, 14:52
get a life paul. Mela ma ghandkomx xi tghidu, bit tghajjir ma jiehu xejn il pajjiz ta, ahjar tiffukaw kif has solvu l problema tad dejn dejjem tiela. Min plus before 1987 qieghed dejn ta 75% tal GDP. dak r rekord tal pn.
Please choose the reason of your report below: