JPO: I should have resigned earlier, I feel liberated
'I still feel Nationalist'
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando said today that he regretted not having resigned from the PN earlier.
"I feel liberated," he said in his second interview in four days on One TV.
He said he felt liberated because the PN had been hijacked, emasculated and poisoned by Richard Cachia Caruana and Austin Gatt.
While saying that he still felt 'a Nationalist' Dr Pullicino Orlando said he was fed up of personal attacks and intimidation by people who were in the same party as himself.
He reiterated that he would continue to collaborate with the government on the points listed in the electoral programme but said it would be a mistake by the prime minister if he did not consult him on a one-on-one basis as agreed, on matters which were not specifically mentioned in the electoral programme. This also included the Budget.
To be consulted was not something extraordinary, Dr Pullicino Olando said, Indeed, that was what had been lacking within the PN group over the past four years.
His absolute loyalty was to his constituents and their mandate, Dr Pullicino Orlando said.
Replying to further questions, he said it was up to the prime minister to decide whether he needed to call on the President, continue his legislative programme or call an early election.
Asked whether Malta now had a coalition government, Dr Pullicino Orlando did not give a direct reply, explaining only how he intended to collaborate with the government on the issues listed on the electoral programme and how he expected to be consulted on other measure. Everything would be handled on a case-by-case basis.
He confirmed that he had sent an e-mail to the Speaker to discuss the situation and procedure.
Asked where he would sit in Parliament, he jokingly replied that he would like to be the furthest away possible form Austin Gatt.
Dr Pullicino Orlando said he had no contact with Opposition leader Joseph Muscat.
Earlier in the interview Dr Pullicino Orlando said he was disappointed by the way matters had unfolded in the PN Executive on Tuesday. He was disappointed how some members of the Executive dismissed the sworn declarations of Labour MP Karmenu Vella and Joe Mizzi, simply because they were Labour.
He was very disappointed that Dr Gatt had wrongly alleged on Tuesday that he had told him that unless he was handed a ministry, there would be trouble. This was something he had strenuously denied.
Dr Pullicino Orlando said he still felt Nationalist. He had been an active Ntionalist since his teens, he was elected by PN supporters, but the team had fallen apart. One only needed to see how John Dalli had been framed by people within the PN, and those who hatched this frame-up had been promoted. That was why he was now distancing himself from the PN.
He, however, had no personal difficulties with the prime minister and yesterday's meeting was very cordial, he said.
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G Tonna
Jul 20th 2012, 21:50
Good riddance
Eddy Privitera
Jul 21st 2012, 20:38
G.Tonna. Not only you have not got riddance of him, but JPO now TELLS Lawrence Gonzi what to do, as otherwise Dr. Gonzi will have no option left but to call the election !
S Azzopardi
Jul 20th 2012, 21:29
The PN is going through an internal turmoil. PN remains a valid party made of human beings who have run into conflicts. Human relationships are fragile entities and any PL supporters who are shaming and blaming the state of the PN should be wary because the PL is not immune to similar mishaps. The challenges that PN face at this point in time does not automatically equate to a flawless PL !!!
The electorate are aware that Joe Muscat and the PL team are using the current conflicts within the PN as a catalyst for their electoral campaign. Unfortunately Joseph Muscat is akin to icing on cake ... just looks good and nothing more ! The People of Malta are not naive. PN still has a very valid and successful track record. It needs to clean itself from the internal conflicts and show sufficient evidence of this to the people of Malta !
vella m
Jul 20th 2012, 18:15
Politician from both sides should look at JPO and learn that democracy comes before power.Dr Pullicino Orlando may go, but our parliament will never be the same again for no Maltese is going to ever vote to a yes man candidate.M'ghandekx tibza' li timxi kontra l-kurrent jekk tkun taf li qieghed fis-sewwa.
Sarah Grech (Zebbug)
Jul 20th 2012, 17:17
The funny thing about this situation is that many keep resigning and putting their careers at risk because of Austin Gatt, while he is still there, isahhan is-siggu...
J Cauchi
Jul 20th 2012, 22:26
Who are these many? Good riddance. X'hin hela r-rizorsi li kellu telaq...
Ms D. Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 16:38
Nahseb mhux daqs kemm qed jiddispjacih min ivvutalek biex titla f'isem il-PN. Missek irrizenjajt mill-Parlament halli postok kien jiehdu xi hadd li jisthoqlu.
George Calleja
Jul 20th 2012, 15:45
I think that it's the PN that has been liberated...of a renegate!!! Only a few months left and JPO will vanish from the political scene!!!
Henry S Pace
Jul 20th 2012, 15:39
'I still feel Nationalist' '
1 Proverbs 28:20
A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that maketh haste to
be rich shall not be innocent.
Mario Galea
Jul 20th 2012, 15:30
Yawn, Yawn.
Wake me up when HE blows the whistle.
Mr Kevin Zammit
Jul 20th 2012, 14:59
... founded ... when former ... and former ... and Parliamentary ... joined a number of ... activists to form the new political party. ... had resigned their posts in protest to the presence of certain elements in the ... Party tainted with political ... corruption. For this ... were expelled from the ... Party. ... retained his seat in Parliament and, between ... was effectively an MP for the new party ...
sounds familiar? Thats cause it is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternattiva_Demokratika
And look here Dr Toni Abela is today is Deputy Leader Party Affairs!
So ... please dont write JPO, FD and JM yet :)
Henry S Pace
Jul 20th 2012, 14:51
' JPO: I should have resigned earlier, I feel liberated
'I still feel Nationalist'
Please do not make people laugh.
You have created a tragedy on the PN.
If you were and are still loyal to your personal voters , you have outrightly deceived them with an 'all ends up'
You tabled the divorce bill
You have voted against the PN in Parlaiment.
You want everything your way and now you have resigned from the PN.
The next step is that youRESIGN you seat in Parliament
By doing so you would show great respect to your voters.
Carmel camilleri
Jul 20th 2012, 14:45
Jeffrey only resigned from the party because in that way he would not lose his honoraria as an MP and his his job as Chairman plus other perks.
The only honourable way for him was to resign from Parliament and stop making a fool of himself. But it seems as always money walks, money talks.
Philip Hili
Jul 20th 2012, 17:27
@ Carmel Camilleri
Perfectly right!!
Joseph Grech Attard
Jul 20th 2012, 13:57
Jeffrey you are a Nationalist and you support the PN. Good. But, remember, that the party in Government is GonziPN. Why didn't you dissociate yourself from GonziPN? Or is PN and GonziPN the same? If yes, why did the PN change its'name to GonziPN in 2008?
Leonard Cole
Jul 20th 2012, 14:06
Why Toni Abela and Wenzu Mintoff in earlier years dissociated from Goverment ...
Joe Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 14:32
@Leonard Cole
exactly .. this is happening again today within the PN but many are not listening!!! Both persons you mentioned are back within the party because PL realized that they were right at that time. One of whom is deputy leader!! They wanted reform but PL at that time (80's) would not listen! It took years and different leaders before the actual reform was made! It's not that easy to understand especially if you are a hardliner.
Same thing is happening to PN now!! PN is made up of clique with Austin Gatt leading the way. Dr.Gonzi is just a puppet trying to hold on to what the others are suggesting!!
anthony sultana
Jul 20th 2012, 13:41
JPO did somting to our tiny island that we never forget, definitly he will go on the history books. Malta need it this gentelman , he is a great freedom fighter.Malta u l- poplu taghha qabel kollox, mhux bhal hadd qihor.
G. Cachia
Jul 20th 2012, 14:03
Quote: "Malta need it this gentleman". Gentleman with you or or with other people like you but he's not a gentleman with us as voters.
We suffered a lot by his attitude because he showed that he's against many in the Party especially those whom he quoted who hurt him in his own business.
He wanted to put his mind at rest with the Mistra field and he forgot his own constituents.
Leonard Cole
Jul 20th 2012, 14:14
“A True Gentleman” right … The person who was crying on TV and trying to persuade everyone to a certain extent he did that with Mistra Land there was nothing going on….. When in fact Dr Alfred Sant was right all along, the only thing Dr. Sant did wrong was not facing the person outright…… My friend these are not True Gentleman but people with a personal agenda
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Jul 20th 2012, 13:40
"Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando said today that he regretted not having resigned from the PN earlier. "I feel liberated," he said......."
WITHOUT ANY DOUBT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PN VOTERS WHO ARE LIBERATED AS THEY DO NOT SUPPORTING ANYMORE GONZI PARTIT NEGATTIV.
Saviour Fenech
Jul 20th 2012, 13:28
JPO, you shoold have rsigned from Parliament also, if you really respect the 5,100 who voted for you on PN ticket.
Kenneth Williams
Jul 20th 2012, 14:21
Taf xi tghid man....ezatt kif tixtieq int
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Jul 21st 2012, 17:00
@ Saviour Fenech
When in 1962 a Member of Parliament from the Partit Demokratiku Nazzjonalista crossed the floor and joined the Government headed by the PN. The PN ( Partit Negattiv ) did not argued that the mentioned MP should have resigned from Parliament if he really respected the voters who voted him as a PDN candidate. But the PN welcomed this particular MP as a hero !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 13:18
@Joseph Cauchi Senior
I think it is pretty obvious that with the letter to PM JPO has made it pretty clear that he has nothing to do with JM or PL. JPO was GonziPN production which went out of GonziPN bounds due to Gonzi's faailure in holding the party together!!! Remember thatthis is not just JPO Mugliet J.Dalli and F.Debono. There are many others!
As regards the BEEF .. I believe that you have deaf ears to what Joseph Muscat has to say and wide open ones for the obsolete GonziPN. Even from the opposition J.Muscat is makining PN administration following his stands and statements Take for example ..
... Immigration .. JM had preaching all along to PN that it was too soft and volountary takings wasn't sufficient. Now PN is a finally pulling along those lines and insisting on what JM used to say!
.., the 500 euros increase per week by PM and collegues which when JM mentioned that if he would be elected PM, the first action would be to exclude this increase. Some time after, our dear PM made big UTurn. Now he had been insisting that this increase was justified but now he has excluded (till election passes) this increase as an act of good faith!!!
... reduction in utility bills. JM has been insisting all along that these bills were unjustified and one can decrease them. Now our finance minister Tonio Fenech is also agreeing that these could be decreased!!!
... proposals are already being made for education SMD.s etc. There many others which I fail to bring up at this moment!
One questions what is this obsolete GonziPN proposing for next administration period Nothing but buzz words and hatred against JM!!!
J. D. Farrugia
Jul 20th 2012, 13:12
Well done Jeffrey for having the nuts. Give them the shivers cause when the time comes you will not be a threat any longer and you will be stabbed and stabbed all over again!
S. Vella
Jul 20th 2012, 13:08
"I should have resigned earlier, I feel liberated"
Back in 2008, you should have told the truth about the contract to the PN, admitted Sant was onto something and resigned.
"His absolute loyalty was to his constituents and their mandate..."
As one of your constituents, please do your honourable duty and resign your post in parliament.
"but said it would be a mistake by the prime minister if he did not consult him on a one-on-one basis as agreed, on matters which were not specifically mentioned in the electoral programme. This also included the Budget."
The government owes you nothing. As an independent you can agree or not agree with a bill and vote accordingly. One hopes that you will vote with the interest of the entire Maltese nation at heart. Personally, I doubt you are capable of even that much integrity.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 17:30
George Cutajar: You have totally misunderstood my comment ! " Or else........" meant that if Dr. Gonzi does not do what JPO demands, JPO will then vote against the government !!!!! Happy now ??
George Cutajar
Jul 20th 2012, 13:08
@ Eddy Privitera - I am still waiting for an explanation the 'OR ELSE' threat you posted earlier. Can you tell me what will happen to me if I do not eat our words against JPOS?
Come on Eddy please tell me what you mean.
P. Zammit
Jul 20th 2012, 13:02
We (true Nationalists ) feel liberated as well. Why not resign your seat in Parliament too .. out of respect for the 5100 citizens who voted for you in the last election on a Nationalist party ticket ?
John Azzopoardi
Jul 20th 2012, 12:38
Yes he should have because Malta is now being joepardized for selfish reasons . ONly the PL is laughing all the way to the bank and JPO you have let your constituents down big time. Now your name is all mud and Sant was right after all At the end, time did tell who was a better gentlemen. And people, regardless of whether you are PN or PL, give Sant his due. You will not have a better PL politician with the likes of Sant. Only history will judge that. Of course, Gonzi, the ever supposedly christian wil never admit to this.
S. Bonello
Jul 20th 2012, 12:37
JPO stronger than the Prime Minister now.
Jolly good show !!!
Well done.
Joseph Micallef
Jul 20th 2012, 12:17
This man is full of EGO. Mr. prime minister "tpaxxihx"! Call an election!
George Cremona
Jul 20th 2012, 12:17
JPO your credibility has reached the -0 levels. Do not try to pass your mortal sins unto others because nobody is believing you anymore. You said enough lies.
K. Vella
Jul 20th 2012, 12:11
Good riddens to ............
Ms.D. Galea
Jul 20th 2012, 12:05
The people would have been liberated four years ago from Dr JPO if he spoke the truth about Mistra then.
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jul 20th 2012, 12:05
Give the Nationalist party back to the Nationalists. The clique has grown fat over all the monies showered over them and others. Would Labour put into effect what is required to examine all contracts dished out these past 8 months?
V. CALLEJA
Jul 20th 2012, 12:01
NAHSEB LI ISSA JPO HUWA IL PRIM MINISTRU, X'HIN IRID JISTA JSEJJAH ELEZZJONI.
alfred seguna
Jul 20th 2012, 11:47
AGAIN:Love him or hate him Dr.Pullicino Orlando had the guts to stand on his feet and call a spoon a spoon and a spade a spade.I believe that no matter from which party you come every MP should not be like a puppet on a string..MP's should not be there only to nod their head when the string is pulled.We don't need any Rambos in parliament.All we need is intelligent people who are responsible and accountable for their actions.We need MP's who believe in the culture of resignations when they fail.Above all we need people with a sense of leadership to show us the way forward.
francis x caruana
Jul 20th 2012, 11:45
well done jpo. You have the guts to fac these people. Theydo not deserve any thing better.
joe aquilina
Jul 20th 2012, 11:31
Issa daqsekk gonzipn. .....mil lum il quddiem jew RCCPN jew AGPN ha ha ha bil qatra il qatra tintela il gara u il pn faru bil hmieg ...ex nazzjonalist ...
Dominic Chircop
Jul 20th 2012, 11:29
PAR IDEJN SODI - MA DAHAR IS-SIĠĠU TAL-POTER !!
INSALVAW IX-XOGĦOL TAL-ĦADDIEMA, SPEĊJALMENT TAL-PROM !!!
D Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 11:29
So the PN is saying it can still govern within a coalition....
I wonder whether a coalition with AD (the Greens), would have seen ....
- GonziPN pay itself Eur.500 weekly behind our backs, spirral our deficit with the ill thought City Gate project,
- sign the Delimara Power Station contract based on fuel oils,
- continue appointing chairpersons and board members based on their blind loyalty to the PN rather than competence,
- drag its feet on any real Electoral Law Reform and Party Financing legislation
just to mention a few....
we need to CHANGE the whole political scenario rather than just the governing party
Carmelo Sammut
Jul 20th 2012, 11:28
NO JPO
NO VOTE
William Caligari
Jul 20th 2012, 11:26
Mr.Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando,
Smajt dak li kellek xi tghid dalghodu fil-Breakfast News ta' One TV.
Prosit ghaliex deherli li kont car bizzejjed.
Dak li ma tantx hadt gost nisma meta bdejt tghid li mhux
dejjem ivvotajt fil-Parlament skond il-kuxjenza tieghek.
Sa fejn naf jien int ivvotajt favur l-gholi tal-kontijiet tad-dawl,
din int dalghodu ma semmejt xejn, safejn stajt nisma jien.
Tista issa Mr.JPO ghandek kull cans li tghafas fuq il-Gvern
sabiex bil-vot tieghek jorhsu dawn il-kontijiet?
Zgur li sa' sib l-oppozzizjoni taqbel mieghek.
Saviour Fenech
Jul 20th 2012, 13:30
Ghalikom dak li jghid ilOne vangelu. Tajjeb bilfors.
A Spiteri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:19
JPO, jien ma tajtekx il-vot tieghi ghalik personali u biex tuzah kif jaqbel lilek kemm issa u bhad-divorzju. Tmur fuq l-istazzjon tal-PL biex jibqaw juzawk. Jien jinteresani li il-Prim Ministru kien kappaci li jsalva lil pajjizna min dizastru economiku, l-edukazzjoni, sahha u ma spiccajniex bhal kumplament tad-dinja.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jul 20th 2012, 11:16
Following UK parliamentary practice this is not a new coalition which would have required JPO to form a new party but a case of an MP resigning from the PN , presumably resigning the whip and crossing the floor from Nationalist to Independent. Technically and for how long one does not know JPO declared that he is still supporting the PM, so in my opinion the question of the PM losing its majority has not yet arisen in this specific situation.
The reality is however that this remains l a government hanging by a thread and in my opinion not acting in the best national interest. Also in real politik terms one has to see how FD will react to having been upstaged by JPO who seems to have secured some form of consultation rights for his sins.
Mr Kevin Zammit
Jul 20th 2012, 11:09
one question I have for all those die hard nationalist supporters that keep defending their favorite prime minister: Do you want to live with a parliament in which MPs are pre selected, trained, marketed for election just like a football team or a pop singer? That would mean you are happy to have MPs that are manipulated like marionets by those that make them up in the first place. You think it stops there? No! Obviously the same will be done with the Prime Minister himself! Thats the ultimate prize for those who want to control without the hassle of public accountability.
And ... I pose the same question to those die hard labour supporters.
You know who those people are within the executive council. Those people are not elected democratically but rather obtain power by building and re-enforcing their own personal network.
Loyalty to the party yes but now its becoming loyalty to a nameless and blameless executive.
That is a complete hijacking of our democratic institutions.
I hope you have a mind that is not shackled by political rhetoric and can understand the difference between the two worlds.
Stefan Spiteri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:05
Election we need one ???
Victor Vella
Jul 20th 2012, 10:58
Now JPO do not talk too much because you loose the good that you have built.
g t borg
Jul 20th 2012, 10:55
Did JPO consult anyone before hurling his Private Member's Bill on Divorce to be discussed in Parliament? I do not remember seeing Divorce listed in the PN's electoral programme promises. Now he expects to be consulted on matters that were not part of the electoral programme!! I fail to discern any cohesion in this reasoning!
Ka Busuttil
Jul 20th 2012, 10:46
Good for JPO! I'm sure several nationalists other than myself wish the rest of the government would "resign" and we can have an election and new government. This one seems to finally have run out of steam.......
V. Cauchi
Jul 20th 2012, 10:41
Piano's new parliament building again makes no provision for middle seating independent from one side or the other. Are we still in time to alter this arrangement? It should no longer be taken for granted that all representatives would wish to sit on any one definitive side of the House.
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 12:27
There are only two sides in Parliament - the government and the opposition, there might be more than one party, but they have to decide if they are to support the government or not. JPO seems to still be supporting the government, although under certain conditions. It seems the Speaker has to decide where he is to sit, most probably on the government side but as far away from Austin Gatt as possible. I don't blame him.
S. Bonello
Jul 20th 2012, 12:38
brilliant observation.....
James Hili
Jul 20th 2012, 10:39
Nobody here is mentioning the fact that like him or hate him, JPO had the galls to stand up to the two PN 'bullies', named by him, who everyone is afraid of because of the tremendous power they wield in Malta. And bringing about the downfall of the Cardinal is no joke!
Joseph Sammut
Jul 20th 2012, 11:11
One can say he has the galls or he is politically immature
vella m
Jul 20th 2012, 11:15
@ James Hili,naqbel mieghek perfettament.
Joseph Buttigieg Attard
Jul 20th 2012, 10:37
Dr Pullucino Orlando may I ask why you never apologised to one and all for your 'dirty' behaviour during the eve of last General Election?
Dr A. Sant's accusations against you then, were just simply a tiny tip of an iceberg!! How shamefully you and GonziPN treated us then and since then is most condemnable, to say the least.
S. Bonello
Jul 20th 2012, 12:39
Was anything ever proven??
Hafna akkuzi ghal xejn.
U dan gie elett min zewg distretti Mr. Buttigieg Attard. Taf x'qed tghid jew?
jesmond zammit
Jul 20th 2012, 10:36
gonzi kien falliment u issa ha ic certifikat ta dan kollu.
A.M. Galea
Jul 20th 2012, 10:34
Hon Pulicino Orlando , if you feel liberated at last , why don't you liberate the Maltese people from this hijkcked Emasculated and Poisoned Government by Austin Gatt and Richard Cachia Caruana as well ?
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 10:32
JPO we would like you to address a press conference like FD did last December on TVM today.... JPO courage is the best medicine....
Roberta Sciberras
Jul 20th 2012, 11:18
Well Mr Borg - TVM has first to give him a chance to speak. According to what JPO said this morning on ONE, no other station had invited him.
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 12:22
Was he invited on PBS? Seems not. As far as I know FD was invited on Bondi + and on TVAM.
George Cutajar
Jul 20th 2012, 10:22
So One TV's darling feels liberated. He can rest assured that so do we.
Looks like he is now training his guns on Austin Gatt and this to keep us all guessing what his next move will be.
The next step for JPOS should be to resign his seat and enjoy his fieleds at Mistra. That way he will be further liberated and unshackled.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 11:41
GEORGE cUTAJAR : Your GonziPN is not liberated" at all ! Gonzi has to keep asking permission from JPO for all the things that were not mentioned in the electoral programm ! JPO has brought Lawrence Gonzi on his knees !!!!!!!!!!! PAR IDEJN TAT-TAFAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jay Oatmon
Jul 20th 2012, 10:21
A government who's main concern is self preservation can not rule with integrity - it is over.
‘A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.’
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jul 20th 2012, 10:01
I think we have to wait and see to be able to form a realistic opinion of this situation or else it will be nothing but speculation... The situation is extremely fluid and can be interpreted in a million different ways with most interpretations probably tarnished by the one's political colour....
Ray Buhagiar
Jul 20th 2012, 10:08
Well said. Best comment so far.
Mark. Galea
Jul 20th 2012, 10:28
Excellent analysis - in this situation we have PL claiming victory without having won anything and PN claiming not losing while losing the majority paliamentary seat.
It looks more of a stalemate for now, with JPOS in the limelight.
anton cassar
Jul 20th 2012, 11:43
@ Mark...Thats why now we have a new Prime minister in JPO...because whatever decisions Gonzi has to take he has to consult with Jeffrey....Normally its the other way round.An MP or a Minister,when taking a decision, has to consult with his Boss !!!
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 12:19
Mark Galea I have not heard Joseph Muscat claiming any victories. All he said is that he had told Lawrence Gonzi, that if he didn't call an election things could only get worse for the PN government, and he was proved right.
Thomas C. Cassar
Jul 20th 2012, 09:40
Bhal JPO jahsbuha hafna Nazzjonalisti ta` veru llum, li jridu jehilsu min GonziPN u l-klikka li hakmitu bit-tama li jerga jkollhom lura l-Partit Nazzjonalista.
Jo Meli
Jul 20th 2012, 10:17
ONE cannot mend a BROKEN jar, and pass it as new, ... and The Once Glorious Partito Nazionale of Enrico Mizzi and Giorgio Borg Olivier is THAT jar !!
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 12:15
Jo Meli I disagree with you, Alfred Sant succeeded in cleaning the MLP and Joseph Muscat in building a new movement. With the right leadership, PN can once again become what it was in the past. It needs a clean up and a makeover.
Eve Axiaq
Jul 20th 2012, 09:39
Next budget? I am still waiting for a lower income tax rate. JPO it was in the electoral programme and we are already 4 years late
Shaun Anthony Camilleri
Jul 20th 2012, 09:39
"One only needed to see how John Dalli had been framed by people within the PN, and those who hatched this frame-up had been promoted. That was why he was now distancing himself from the PN. "
What a hypocrite. If so why not resign earlier. Is this frame-up the kind there was just before the last election against him (Mistra)? I am not saying Mr. Dalli was not framed-up as I do not know but he got a good job as an apology from the PN is he looking for something similar?
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 10:05
Shaun camilleri: This is precisely why JPO said this morning that he should have resigned " long ago " !
victor bonello
Jul 20th 2012, 09:35
this could very well be a trojan horse to distract the electorate from the real problems Malta is suffering from due to GonziPN .
he Machiavelli minds behind the GonziPN never surprise me any more. They will do anything to keep the power, even though they have depleted the financial resources of this country, hoping there is more.
S. Bonello
Jul 20th 2012, 12:49
Ha nghidlek man, jien hsibta din imma trid tkun MacchiavellU ta veru u imbecilli perfett biex tafda lil PN.
Mhux bilfors nafda lil PL lanqas ta !!!!
Mr Joe Frendo
Jul 20th 2012, 09:34
Jeffery, why I cannot believe any more of your words ..... somehow they have no more value for me, .. reminding me of the Al lupo! Al lupo tale every time I hear your name!!
JF
Joseph Laus
Jul 20th 2012, 09:33
JPO.....Is he another Franco,,,,So he resigned from a PN member of Parliamen with the GonziPn...and still said he supports the government.....If this is not a Circus what one would call it.......??
Oliver Grech
Jul 20th 2012, 09:32
JPO said "To be consulted was not something extraordinary, Dr Pullicino Olando said, Indeed, that was what had been lacking within the PN group over the past four years."
Let us take an example the JPO: Divorce...i believe that you didn't consult with anyone from the party hux?
This is funny. Not that the government should consult with their coallition but its funny coming from this person who never consulted, himself.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jul 20th 2012, 09:53
just keep in mind one thing my friend .... Divorce was voted for by the people. We citizens wanted the divorce as it showed clearly with the results of the referendum... Had the outcome been negative you would have had a point but the results actually showed that JPO knew more than the government what the people wanted!
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 10:08
Oliver Grech: The leader of the party is Ll-Gonzi: It was his responsibility to consult his parliamentary group. This was rarely done as other GonziPN MPs had said too.
Oliver Grech
Jul 20th 2012, 10:37
The point is not whether the people wanted divorce or not. You re right, the people voted for divorce, and the divorce law was enacted.
However JPO wants to be consulted....nonetheless he never consulted the party on the divorce. And that is where he was mistaken. He should have first consulted the party, then presented the bill and not the other way round.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jul 20th 2012, 11:58
he couldn't for the simple reason that the PN and the church are one entity... As you well know Gonzi even voted in parliament against the will of the people let alone if consulting him would have satisfied the will of the people... I understood what you are trying to say but sometimes someone has to go against the current and do what's best... Had the outcome of the referendum been different JPO would have probably had to shut up once and for all... But that was not the case and even worse the PM and the PN were publicly proven wrong.
Also now that he is Independent he has all the 'right' to request consultation as he is officially no longer under the PM's grip. He has become one hell of a very powerful independent MP I must say in a matter of hours...
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 12:11
Had JPO consulted with the party we would never have gotten the chance to vote in favour. Had we been given the chance to vote for the Power Station, most of us would have voted against one being run on heavy fuel oil. This goes to show that JPO knows what the people want more than the PN.
S. Bonello
Jul 20th 2012, 12:46
Seems your reasoning is in favour of the party not the people.
Thank God JPO did what he did in the divorce issue.
After all, Dr. Gonzi consulted the people with the referendum and still voted no. JPO was miles ahead than the PN and Dr. Gonzi in this issue. I'm sorry to say that my prime minister let me down and should have removed himself from office and not vote no. He is there to serve the people after all.
Anthony Arpa
Jul 20th 2012, 09:27
Ruben Hili was right to say
JPO....Divorce was not in the electoral program.
This will confirm the real lifa of a polition ...
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 10:30
Mr Arpa the Divorce issue was set by a referendum not by the Parliament...... JPO introduced something that should have been introduced 30 years ago..... If you don't need a divorce just don't use it and stay tied for ever and ever...
Joe Sammut
Jul 20th 2012, 09:25
If only JPO resigned Four years earlier,that is: before he was elected , Malta would have been LIBERATED.!!!
Joseph Brincat
Jul 20th 2012, 09:23
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando
I should have resigned earlier, I feel liberated because the PN had been hijacked, emasculated and poisoned by Richard Cachia Caruana and Austin Gatt.
WELL NOW GONZI PN IS UNDER MY THUMB >>>>>
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcgZIz0Fd-w&feature=related
ENJOY IT
Leo Said
Jul 20th 2012, 10:36
[WELL NOW GONZI PN IS UNDER MY THUMB >>>>>]
EZATT ...... EZATT ....... EZATT
Peter Simpson
Jul 20th 2012, 09:21
I think its time for a general clean up; the rest is superfluous!
James Grech
Jul 20th 2012, 09:18
There is no doubt that the PN has notable schisms and factions. While the PM talks abt JPO as a friend, now that he has resigned and wants to be consulted on each and every move that the government is about to do, there are ppl who claim to be nationalists, and who are still denigrating JPO. Notwithstanding the fact that he was the one that actually made it possible for the PN to garner the seat of power in 2008. What short memories you ppl have, it is true that the PN uses ppl as long as they serve its purpose and then they throw them to the wolves. In a few years time, it would be very interesting to go back and see how truly democratic this party has been.
J. Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 09:18
The PN party clearly needs an urgent and major overhaul service.....including ....a new leader.
It may be hard for some PN loyalists to accept this fact, but it is a necessity. With Gonzi as leader, PN will definitely face a defeat. With a younger, yet able leader, PN can offer a breadth of fresh air. There are many able PN MPs who have what it takes to be a leader.
It is impressive to see how many PN candidates have in the last 5 years blamed Gonzi for the situation the PN is in. The country needs strong political parties, whether PN or PL. By have strong parties, our country can prosper much better.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:42
Do you have any names you would like to suggest to the PN?
I would myself but I'm not too interested in politics.
Alex Coppola
Jul 20th 2012, 11:58
Mr. Borg
Can you name these able PN MP's who in your opinion can make a good PN leader
Mr Charles Falzon
Jul 20th 2012, 09:12
Allura issa xorta ser tibqa tivvota kontra l kuxjenza?
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jul 20th 2012, 09:07
Vera bizilla , tal genn this chess game. Jeff do we have to wait till October to see a check mate...
Ninu
Edgar Apap
Jul 20th 2012, 09:50
I Am Proud Of JPO Because He Talked The Talk And Walked The Walk , Now I Expect Franco Debono Does The Same And Show That He Is A True Nationalist Like Us That Dont Want To Be Part Of Gonzi Pn Anymore . Talk Is Cheap Action Is Heroic .
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 10:03
checkmate has been last December, we have been with no gov since last decemeber....
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 20th 2012, 09:05
At last! The split is official.
JPO has been split from the PN from that first day of the Mistragate saga and his true political relationship with the party has been camouflaged for these past four years; but now it is in the open and it is official.
Now the Government can continue to work, with the full knowledge that it has the 100% backing of JPO as long as the PN electoral programme which the 5,100 PN electors voted for is adhered to; as declared in the letter that JPO gave to the Prime Minister.
The important question one has to ask now is Joseph Muscat ready to substantiate his arguments and policies with facts and figures – in other words – Where is the BEEF, Joey?
Joseph Muscat should now stop using JPO as a means of distraction and as a RED HERRING, but provide the electorate with real policies and how they can be implemented and with no fancy jargons!
This is what the electorate is waiting for!
JC.
Roberta Sciberras
Jul 20th 2012, 09:15
"Now the Government can continue to work, with the full knowledge that it has the 100% backing of JPO as long as the PN electoral programme which the 5,100 PN electors voted for is adhered to; as declared in the letter that JPO gave to the Prime Minister."
Yippee! So now we are going to get the income tax cuts!
M Saliba
Jul 20th 2012, 10:00
Dr Gonzi joqgħod għal kollox. Il-Gvern jahdem biss bil-barka ta' JPO. Naħseb ftehmu liema liġijiet jistgħu jsibu sapport ta' JPO : Whislte Blower Act, IVF, u Ko-abitazzjoni.
Issa Dr Franco Debono jitħajjar jagħmel bħal JPO, biex ma jibqax l-underdog.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 10:15
Joseph Cauchi Senior. Are you now happy that GonziPn has to consult THE SAME MAN WHO WAS ACCUSED OF FABRICATING A " FRAME-UP " ???
Have you forgotten what you have written about JPO ??? What if Franco Debono now realizes that if he does the same, and resigns, then Gonzi will also have to consult him as well ???????????
WE NO LONGER HAVE A GOVERNMENT, BUT A FARCE !!!!
Jo Meli
Jul 20th 2012, 09:00
As of YESTERDAY the Goverment led by Lawrence Gonzi, as the PRESENT Situation IS, is ILLEGITIMATE and MORALLY DEAD !
The ISSUE now is that the Prime Minister MUST inform the President of the Republic that he has no Majority in Parliament as a Partit Nazzjonalista. He must also inform the President that he has a favorable vote of Confidence in the person of Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando.
The President of the Republic, after THIS revelation, should hold discussion with the Leader of the Opposition on this Issue.
After DUE CONSULTATIONS the President of the Republic SHOULD invite that person who has THAT majority of Confidence in Parliament and the Parliament RECONVIENED so that THAT VOTE of Confidence is taken.
PERIOD !!!
IF "Technicallities" are NOT followed DANGEROUS PRECIDENTS are CREATED with the obvious consequence of UNDERMINING the Constitution of the Republic of Malta.
Paul Pace
Jul 20th 2012, 09:20
To be precise the acting president because the president is in Peru.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 20th 2012, 09:32
@ Jo Meli, today at 09:00.
You misunderstand, or you misinterpret, the present situation.
The present situation is that the government has the promise of Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando's support in its effort to implement, as far as possible, the Nationalist Party electoral manifesto during the rest of its mandate and in accordance with the desire of the voters. There is nothing illegitimate or immoral there - quite the opposite, if you only knew what legitimacy and morality meant. Obviously you do not.
May I gently draw your attention to the obvious fact that you not competent to give advice to the Prime Minister, to the President of the Republic and to the Leader of the Opposition. Who the heck do you think you are? You may of course express your opinions but that only exposes the folly of those opinions. The same applies to your penchant of over-use of the Caps Lock that draws attention to your foolish opinions and your spelling.
Paul Giordimaina
Jul 20th 2012, 09:34
The PM is waiting for your opinion first because you seem to be very smart. Mr Meli
C Muscat
Jul 20th 2012, 09:42
Ma tafx x qed tghid.
Ma hemm l-ebda argument li l-gvern ma ghadux imexxi. Biex il-gvern jaqa hemm il-mod ta kif tghid il-kostituzzjoni kif jimxu l-affarijiet.
Ma nafx kif l-editur ihalli rimarki ghal kollox zbaljati bhal tieghek.
Jien nghidlek li anke il-gvern laburista tal-1981 kellu kull dritt kostituzzjonali li jiggverna.
Jo Meli
Jul 20th 2012, 10:15
PERSONAL insults get you NOWHERE Cikku Saliba !
They only reinforce the fact that I am RIGHT.
Over and OUT !
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 10:21
Francis Saliba: " The government has the promise of Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando's support............" funny isn't it ? Gonzi has the support - and accepted it - of the same man he had accused of orchestrating a " Frame-Up" !!!!
Would you accept to work with someone who you believe is capable of organizing frame-ups ?????
This only proves that the accusation was intended only to impress the Executive and thus cover-up for RCC !
Leo Said
Jul 20th 2012, 10:47
@ Francis Saliba M.D.
quote Francis Saliba M.D.:
[The present situation is that the government has the promise of Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando's support in its effort to implement, as far as possible, the Nationalist Party electoral manifesto during the rest of its mandate and in accordance with the desire of the voters. There is nothing illegitimate or immoral there - quite the opposite, if you only knew what legitimacy and morality meant. Obviously you do not.]
quote Francis Saliba M.D.:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120719/local/pm-jpo-holding-crucial-meeting.429251
[If I were the Speaker I would be most wary about anything that Pullicino Orlando would "say" at any particular moment and wait to see if there are any later revised versions or actions inconsistent with his words.]
Dear Doctor, what is therefore the worth of the promise, which you refer to?
William Caligari
Jul 20th 2012, 11:11
@ Mr Paul Pace,
In Malta we haven't got Acting President.
It's , veru ma titwemmenx,
Kien hemm wiehed biss, Paul Xuereb izda dan serva ta'
Acting President, meta fil-fatt ma kellniex President mahtur, dan
kien lejn l-ahhar tad-90s.Dam sentejn fil-kariga.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 20th 2012, 12:32
@ Eddy Privitera todat at 10:21.
If you made a serious effort to understand the simple English of my comments you would comprehend that I am extremely doubtful if the compromise solution imposed by Jeffrey Pullicini Orlando would hold. In the meantime I have no right to prejudge. I must give JPO the benefit of the doubt and hope that he will keep his promise to facilitate the Nationalist Party government to fulfill as much as possible of its electoral programme within the period of five years mandated to it.
@ Joe Meli at 10:15.
I am not insulting you. I am only exposing the folly of the opinions you express in your presumptious comments - and that hurts.
Rita Wirth
Jul 20th 2012, 08:53
As JPO rightly states he was elected by PN supporters and that is why in my view JPO should not only resign from the PN but should resign from Pariliament, in this way the people who voted for him are still represented within the PN which is what they always intended with their vote.
David Caruana
Jul 20th 2012, 09:31
What about those who voted specifically for him rather than the party? Anyone else would NOT be representing their vote.
Paul Giordimaina
Jul 20th 2012, 09:37
If he was a gentleman which he isnt he would resign from parliament too.
Edgar Apap
Jul 20th 2012, 09:38
Rita You Also Need To Add That There Are Nationalists And Gonzi PN . Gonzi PN Will Be Dead And Buried After The Next General Election , But Once Again Us Nationalists Will Rebuild What Gonzi PN Managed To Destroy .
J Zammit
Jul 20th 2012, 09:53
5100 people voted for JPO expecting him to make the right decisions on their part.
By resigning he'll simply be feeding those 5100 votes to the lions. They will now get no say.
Those people did not vote for PN but for an ideal.. they found that ideal in JPO and would still want to be represented by it.
The same goes for FD
Party politics is what's killing democracy in Malta. The 'whip' in both parties should go and all votes should be open votes taken anonymously.
It's the responsibility of the MP's to make their voices heard over making policy and to get everyone ( or at least a majority ) on board. This is what democracy is about, and not 2 parties at war with each other over who is in power.
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 12:04
You are very concerned about the 5100 votes given to JPO, what about the 5600 votes who voted neither for PN nor for MLP, at least now we have someone who is representing us.
Paul Pace
Jul 20th 2012, 08:49
In my opinion, the chess game is approaching the end. Now JPO can move freely like the "Queen" does on the chess board.
If he does not proctect his "King" in this case GonziPN, then there will be a CHECKMATE and a fresh game will follow for a general election.
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:01
Mr Pace GonziPN isn't JPO's king any more (not sure if it ever was)
Malta: where chess has actually THREE factions.
godwin difesa
Jul 20th 2012, 11:02
He do not have long time as Queen or as King .As i can under stand Dr Gonzi is very wise, calm,and a strategist person.From the end of last year the storm, started to have an other direction with the 3 MPs.As the PM had always sad the election is going to be held in its time most probably in March.He had played with them the chess now he is going to declare the checkmate the PM in November wait and see.Now 1st October is going to open the Parliament some few laws they are going to be discussed which there are consensus from every party.Than in November PN will try to pass the budget if they not succeed it will be almost December so PM will call election and he have 90 days time so it will be around first week of March with the Local council elections.Like this he than done the checkmate to the PL and those who taught that this government will not last to the end.
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 12:01
JPO is now the queen, RCC the bishop, Austin Gatt the knight, and the nation the pawns.
Ruben Hili
Jul 20th 2012, 08:39
JPO....Divorce was not in the electoral program.
Paul Giordimaina
Jul 20th 2012, 09:38
I agree Ruben but he done that for himself.
W Cassar
Jul 20th 2012, 09:39
I'm thankful to him for that.
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 10:26
Divorce was implemented by a referendum not by RCC....
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jul 20th 2012, 10:59
I agree.
It's a bit rich that he expects to be consulted on every little bit the gov does that wasn't in the 2008 program when he himself lodged something that was far from it out of nowhere.
A Camilleri
Jul 20th 2012, 08:34
How very true !!!!!!!! JPO should have resigned not last week, nor last month nor earlier this year but long long long ago i.e. in 2008.
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 08:57
I know that's your personal dream not a the nation's dream...
j brincat
Jul 20th 2012, 08:34
The other day Dr Franco emphasised that he will not support the government in the next budget UNLESS Dr Gatt resigns.
I have no doubt that he will keep to his word.
So, will he also ask for an independent seat in Parliament?.
Would be interesting to watch how things unfold in the coming months!
(jb)
Karm Lughermo
Jul 20th 2012, 08:57
I have a hunch that just after that parlament reconvenes, Austin Gatt will resign with the excuse of leading the PN election campaign to shut up (temporarily) Franco Debono!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jul 20th 2012, 10:57
@Karm
I'm not too sure to be honest. Everyone would see it for what it would be: desperate tactic to cling on to power just a little longer.
Then again if Franco keeps his word...
If Franco abstains again, then the whole government would be in JPO's (and maybe JM's) hands, as the opposition never likes ANYTHING the governments suggests.
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:58
Rueben D Spiteri "as the opposition never likes ANYTHING the government" I suggest you read the parliamentary report to realise yours was a sweeping statement, let me remind you that just before summer recess, the opposition voted with the government on new electoral laws.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 20th 2012, 08:33
" I should have resigned earlier, I feel liberated" (JPO)
The feeling is mutual.
F. Scicluna
Jul 20th 2012, 08:55
sure the saga took too long, we wait for Dr Debono to pull the plug if he has the guts. we had enough of this soap opera a la Gonzi. We as a country are humilating. We are not use of this mess. It is clear that the PM wants to stay on his comfortable chair for more time
Michael Sciortino
Jul 20th 2012, 09:13
Why didn't the PM fire JPO? Even now the PM did not have the guts to remove the whip from JPO.
If you all feel liberated why does the PM want to plough on for the next few months with JPO's 'external' support?
Sorry but the PM and the PN have no moral backbone left, just self-interest.
Alfred Vassallo
Jul 20th 2012, 10:21
'The feeling is mutual.'
No the feeling is far, far from mutual. The pn cannot say they are liberated from JPO. Now more than ever.
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:54
Yes he should have resigned before voting for the Power Station, that would have liberated Malta from the monster we have been landed with.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 20th 2012, 12:35
@ Alfred Vassallo today at 10:21.
The Nationalist Party IS relieved but only if JPO keeps his promise - that is the moot point.
Fleur Mifsud
Jul 20th 2012, 08:32
So it was a blatant untruth when he was accused by Austin Gatt that he wanted a ministry!
I wonder if this is a weapon used to discredit MP s who show dissent. Is it possible that Franco Debono has also been accused unjustly?
One can't expect otherwise from the likes of GonziPN.
Fran Abela
Jul 20th 2012, 08:58
JPO said it was untrue and I do not tend to believe JPO.
Paul Giordimaina
Jul 20th 2012, 09:41
Mr Mifsud The PN does not do things like that.Thats the PL tatics.
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:52
Fran Abela Dr Fenech Adami said it was true, now who do you believe most EFA or Gonzi PN.
Denis Pace
Jul 20th 2012, 08:32
Yes...resigned from Parliament for the sake of DECENCY. This is a sham
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:50
Are you talking about the Prime Minister, yes I agree he should have resigned and called an early election a long time ago, would have done both Malta and the Nationalist party a favour.
j brincat
Jul 20th 2012, 08:31
Hijacks, emasculation, poison, frame ups and recorded private telephone communications!
Oh! What a sorry state the PN has been reduced!
And WHO allowed all this to happen?
(jb)
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 09:00
Hu il-fama u mur orqod u hekk ghamlu tal-PN!!! U raqdu raqda kbira u ma ndunawx li edin jeqirdu lilhom infushom. L-istess kif gara RUMA....
George Debono
Jul 20th 2012, 08:22
He should have resigned his seat if he was genuine...and let a by-election take place. But that's not his motive now...his motive is Maximum Humiliation for PM
Fran Abela
Jul 20th 2012, 08:58
Agree with you 100%. If JPO was a gentleman and really loved his party then the thing to do was to also resign as a member of parliament and a by-election will take place. However he would not do this, as in this way we would no longer hear or see him and believe me that would have been a liberation for the Nationalists.
Karm Lughermo
Jul 20th 2012, 09:03
If what you have stated is the truth, then Gonzi does not deserve better after the last four and a half years with him at the helm of the country!
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 09:04
Who told you that JPO love his party any more?????? He told us many times how the PN squeezed him to the last drop and then abandoned him.... Its not about the gov. only but bad vibes are coming from the DAR CENTRALI itself..... if you know what it means......
G Schembri
Jul 20th 2012, 11:49
@ George Debono ad Fran Abela, an MP should be loyal to his country before his party. JPO is showing loyalty to his country, admittedly quite late in the day. He was putting his party's interest first when he voted for the new Power Station, and look where it got us, a power station working with heavy fuel oil which has scarcely started working and already we are planning to change it.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 08:21
So Lawrence Gonzi, who had accused Dr. Pullicino Orlando with having orchestrated a "frame-up" against Richard Cachia Caruana, has accepted a situation where he has to consult the same Dr. Pullicino Orlando on each matter which is not specifically mentioned in the electoral programme , including the budget !
Surely, if Dr. Gonzi had truly believed that Dr. JPO had orchestrated a "frame-up", he would never have accepted to be so closely involved now in the running of the country with a person who organizes "frame-ups " !!! This shows that Dr. Gonzi NEVER believed that JPO's allegations on RCC were a "frame-up" in the first place. Which also means, that the person who ended being framed-up was JPO and not RCC !!!!
Tommy Vella
Jul 20th 2012, 08:29
What has one got to do with the other?
What's the connection between a frame-up and a vote for a law or motion in Parliament?
Ms Maria Vella
Jul 20th 2012, 08:39
Tommy
Don't you understand Mr. Privitera's blog posts - they rarely make sense, he is much too blinded by his labour beliefs
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 09:08
Well said Mr Privitera...... bdw that was not Gonzi's words saying it was a frame-up, it was RCC ones and said by GONZI looool....... Gonzi is the Puppet of RCC, Austin Gatt, and Tonio Fenech.... GonziPN is just a figure head to address a very corrupted party...
Eddy Privitera
Jul 20th 2012, 10:27
Tommy Vella and Maria Vella: I understand that logic is beyond both of you !!!!!
Tommy Vella
Jul 20th 2012, 17:42
Eddy
You should have said "my logic is beyond you" because you seem to have a very-red-tinted logic of your own, even though your leader is very ashamed to be associated with that colour.
Emanuel Farrugia
Jul 20th 2012, 08:20
In the National interest and provided the Constitution allows it, I hope it works. I hope the people get their dues too. But to me it's like Humpty Dumpty. But it seems that the PN can remain in Government and it's all legal.
R Axisa
Jul 20th 2012, 08:31
Bhal ma kien legali l-gvern tal-1981 - ghax dak iz-zmien il-kostituzzjoni hekk kienet tghid - li min igib il-maggoranza tas-siggijiet jigverna.
clement Gauci
Jul 20th 2012, 08:53
sur R. Axisa it tbabis fid distretti ma kienx legali ghalhekk ir rizultat pervers
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 09:12
Not everything legal is Morally correct Mr. Farrugia..... I wish the PN would stay a bit longer since I like this show...... SHOW MUST GO ON>>>>>>> my treat is when I see Gonzi's face searching for the magical words to answer a PL question and reading the same sentences written originally 4 years ago!
Pat Hobson
Jul 20th 2012, 09:15
@clement gauci. Staqsi lill-PN tan-1971 dwar gerrymandering. Ippruvaw jaghmlu kapulavur, imma hadmet kontrihom. Kien hemm, kemm kien hemm gerrymandering, and not proven, anyway, xorta jibqa' il-kaz li l-Gvern kien legittimu.
A.M. Galea
Jul 20th 2012, 10:29
Sur Gauci , mela insejtu it-tbagħbis tad-distretti li kien sar fl-1971 , fejn min ċertu distretti kienu jridu jiġu elett sitt kandidati flok hamsa bħad-distretti l-oħra ? Dan ma kienx tbagħbis ukoll , Sur Gauci ?
Tommy Vella
Jul 20th 2012, 17:43
@ Pat Hobson
Mhux kull ma huwa leġittimu huwa demokratiku.
Richard Caruana
Jul 20th 2012, 08:13
If JPOS had any decency he should have resigned his seat; he wasn't voted to be an independent in Parliament, that seat belongs to the PN
Walter Spiteri
Jul 20th 2012, 08:32
The people didn't vote for a coalition government either.
carlos ellul
Jul 20th 2012, 08:33
To be fair we voted for a lower income tax rate and a solid party capable of sorting problems out. It didn't turned out to be the case.
The goal posts had shifted so much that its time for the people to decide. If Gonzipn believes in its track record then he shouldnt be afraid of an early election. Quite contrary, he should be able to lead the country for the next 5 years without JPO, Franco and Mugliett's problems on his mind.
Victor Laiviera
Jul 20th 2012, 08:33
Decency is in very short supply in our parliament. If there was more of it, the Prime Minister would have gone to the people months ago.
N. Aquilina
Jul 20th 2012, 08:39
Mr. Caruana
The seat belongs to the people like all the seats of all the other members!
Mike Gatt
Jul 20th 2012, 09:01
@ Walter: No one ever votes for a coalition government. The coalition is negotiated between two or more parties after no party gains a majority of seats.
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 20th 2012, 09:27
I voted for JPO in 2008...... it is one of the best bets I ever played.... JPO is doing what I wish to do if I were to be an MP with the PN.... Gonzi failed to deliver what he said before the election and failed to lead his group correctly....
Please choose the reason of your report below: