Pisani in 'minister' dig at JPO - MP says he was being set up as a scapegoat
Updated with Gordon Pisani's statement
Gordon Pisani, the Prime Minister's spokesman, said this afternoon, it was Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando who decided to call him as witness and he (JPO) had no right to now say that he should not have said certain things he (Pisani) knew about.
Mr Pisani was replying to a statement by Dr Pullicino Orlando earlier today that he had purposely delayed going to PN headquarters two days before the 2008 elections, when summoned by Mr Pisani, because he realised that he was being set up to be used as a scapegoat in the eventuality of an election defeat.
Mr Pisani, yesterday gave details at the PN Executive meeting of two conversations he held with Dr Pullicino Orlando immediately after then Labour leader Alfred Sant had revealed the existence of a contract which confirmed Dr Pullicino Orlando's plans to turn his field in Mistra into a discotheque.
Mr Pisani had phoned Dr Pullicino Orlando, summoned him to PN headquarters, and asked him whether he had a lease contract for his land at Mistra. He responded by asking: "Why?", according to Mr Pisani's notes.
When Mr Pisani explained that Dr Sant had published the contract, Dr Pullicino Orlando said: "I'm feeling ill", repeating that line several times and saying he could not go to PN headquarters.
"Is your contract worth hundreds, thousands?" asked Mr Pisani.
"Isn't it better if you didn't know?" replied Dr Pullicino Orlando.
"Tens of thousands?"
"Big amounts," was the MP's reply.
When he eventually went to PN headquarters Dr Pullicino Orlando was accompanied by his lawyer Alex Perici Calascione. He insisted he had the right to make a contract and this did not amount to corruption. He said he entered into the contract to have a good income.
He was told to release a statement and go straight to the police commissioner.
In his statement this afternoon, Dr Pullicino Olando said:
"In what was obviously a stage-managed affair Mr Gordon Pisani, after being instigated to do so by Dr Austin Gatt, (yesterday) also chose to speak about a private conversation we had a couple of days before the 2008 elections. This was obviously unrelated to the affair at hand, which was the motion asking for Mr Cachia Caruana's resignation. The details of this conversation, which I did not deny, reveal nothing new. I would just like to clarify one point, as I did during yesterday's Executive Committee meeting.
"I purposely delayed going to the PN Headquarters two days before the elections when summoned by Mr Gordon Pisani, acting under the directions of Mr Cachia Caruana. I realised that, after having used me to gain points by portraying Dr Alfred Sant as a bully as part of the 'Mistra campaign', they were now in the process of setting me up as a scapegoat in the eventuality of an electoral defeat.
"I therefore procrastinated, in order to gain enough time to consult my lawyer Dr. Alex Perici Calascione who accompanied me to the PN Headquarters to explain that there was absolutely nothing to worry about with regards to the contract related to the Mistra project. I had, indirectly, made a reference to this contract a week earlier in an article published under my name in The Times and had never been asked for it before the telephone conversation I had with Mr. Gordon Pisani, the contents of which he has now chosen to divulge," he said.
The Nationalist MP added that what happened yestersay meant that "anyone dealing with certain high-ranking officials of the PN and the Office of the Prime Minister should, from now onwards, appreciate that what they say may be divulged publicly and possibly twisted."
"It is also obvious that the 'leak' of selected parts of what should have been an internal meeting of the Executive Committee was very well organised. It is no wonder that many MPs are choosing not to attend for our Parliamentary Group and Executive Committee meetings. This is indeed a shameful state of affairs," he said.
In his statement, Dr Pullicino Orlando said he had called Gordon Pisani as a witness during yesterday's PN Executive Committee meeting to confirm that, prior to the 2008 elections, Mr Cachia Caruana had sent us both to the house of Mrs. Daphne Caruana Galizia in Bidnija as she was engaged in helping us with the 'Mistra campaign'. Mr Pisani confirmed this, he said, proving the direct link between Mr Cachia Caruana and Mrs Caruana Galizia who, he claimed, was also used to target those of who refuseed to bow their heads to the whims of the clique that Mr Cachia Caruana formed part of.
Mr Pisani said in his statement that the conversations he gave evidence about were relevant because they showed that the PN did not know the whole truth about the Mistra land.
The PN did not know that Dr Pullicino Orlando had a contract signed in front of a notary covering development at Mistra and rental amounts. Whenever he was asked questions, Dr Pullicino Orlando never said he had this contract, which the PN only got to know about on March 6, the last day of the elctoral campaign.
Mr Pisani said that in his evidence he explained that had the PN known the whole truth, it would have acted differently.
He insisted that Dr Pullicino Orlando was not being truthful when he said that he (Pisani) called him at the PN headquarters on Mr Cachia Caruana's instructions.
"Mr Cachia Caruana was not next to me, he did not ask me to send for him and he did not even know I would be making that call. So the link Dr Pullicino Orlando is trying to make is wrong."
It was also not true that he had confirmed that Daphne Caruana Galizia had been asked to help in what Dr Pullicino Orlando was calling the Mistra campaign, Mr Pisani said.
He said he explained that Dr Pullicino Orlando was satisfied that Mrs Caruana Galizia wrote an article to be published in his name, according to information he had on February 29, 2008.
He said he explained that Dr Pullicino Orlando was comfortable meeting Mrs Caruana Galizia, so much so that he gave her a business card as head of the Council of Europe delegation and told her that he was using up the cards he had left because he would soon have new ones as minister.
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Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 19th 2012, 11:11
@ Joseph Grech Attard, yesterday at 19:50.
It stands to reason that the Nationalist Party would oppose Alfred Sant because, as MLP party leader, he was the embodiment of Labour. That it “threw as much hate and mud at him as possible”, that is your brash distortion and it that does not deserve attention.
As the truth about Mistra started to emerge, soon after the election, Pullicino Orlando was NOT given 100% credibility by any intelligent person. . He was only reluctantly tolerated as a prurient scab on the NP and only because his vote was essential for the survival of the NP government. ON the other hand, it was Joseph Muscat's LP that, very much like the Petrine cur, went back to lick up again the vomit that Its previous leader, Alfred Sant had dismissed as morally and politically corrupt.
Sant’s disclosure of the existence of a damnable contract, was a trick deliberately delayed for the eve of the election when it would cause maximum damage.. It needed to be countered with urgency. This was done but it succeeded only because Sant acted scared and failed to convince about the reality of the Mistra scandal.
Alfred Sant acted as any honest human being in the sense that he made a mistake. As a result, his own party, the MLP, ditched him in favour of a Joseph Muscat who had given the Nationalist Party advance warning that Sant had some incriminating document up his sleeve that he would disclose on the eve of the election.
That should galvanise your mind about political mud throwing and how it is practised inside the Labour Party.
Hossam Helwani
Jul 19th 2012, 10:56
@ joseph grech attard
it is a shame that you are not employed in criminal investigations. I wonder what would have happened if this had to emerge in the early 80's! where were you then? did you turn a blind eye? If the nationalists gave alfred sant enough info to expose jpo then alfred sant is the most stupid person in the world or the kindest person in the world to walk out of a confrontation from this upstart of jpo! And now why is lejber sheltering and defending jpo? what kind of carnival is this? I think lejber is showing us that even when they have solid information in their hands they are so dumb as to loose every opportunity to move on. And this is the party that expects us to be their favourite choice.....NO WAY !
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 19th 2012, 12:25
@ Hossam Helwani today at 10:56
You ask Dr Joseph Grech Attard where he was in the 70s and 80's only because you do not know that he then was very much at the centre of those "golden years" of Labour exercising his skills in the medical field.
Alfred Dimech
Jul 19th 2012, 09:06
Thank you PN for giving us such a great show. At least we are getting something back for paying the taxes!!
We are enjoying a great show by proficient people wearing the suits and their only interest is their personal pockets.
If I remember correctly, back in 2008, few days before the election, people like Joe Saliba (ex PN Sec Gen) , Anton Attard (now head of National TV) & co were always accompanied JPO in his press coverage’s.
I’m sure that these people have something to add with Mr Gordon Pisani. I more than sure that they know the case and they can give us more view on the case! They were all the time with JPO, so they were giving him all their support. They should know details!
Dear Journalists, PLEASE, do me a favor and give some space to these people.
Alan Vassallo
Jul 19th 2012, 09:06
U z-zejt jitla f'wicc l-ilma...
Lawrence Fenech
Jul 19th 2012, 09:03
Jeffrey ara ma min kont qed tghamilha. Ghal-RCC qabzu kollha li suppost shabek.
F. Pisani
Jul 19th 2012, 08:42
conclution
1.Sant was Right but as usual not relevant ot the campain since JPO's issue was a privat business
2. No wounder that JPO attack on Mr. Caruana was so hursh after loosing all that money from that forth coming income.
seriously people we need a change in power, and the sad thing is that Mr. Muscat is not the answer!! where are those leaders which used to unit parties?
j brincat
Jul 19th 2012, 08:35
So, the drama keeps unfolding which reveals the sorry mess the PN is in!
(jb)
Charles Micallef
Jul 19th 2012, 08:30
There seem to be no end to the bitchyness, so fortuitous that the new Parliament Building is next to the Opera House, they can exchange venues on occasions as there are enough prima donnas to fill the stage!
Jay Oatmon
Jul 19th 2012, 07:22
All this is s smoke screen to me - the real issue is why has the government been so ineffective over the last 20 years.
We are no better off on parking, the justice 'system', sentencing, Mepa/wild ad hoc development, ADT and VAT corruption, the Mater Dei hospital fiasco - the list keeps on just like the energizer bunny!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 19th 2012, 09:14
@ Jay Oatman.today at 07:22
The electorate during all general elections since 1987 (bar one), did not share your personal view about the inefficiency of NP governments over the last twenty years.
Chantelle Cassar Saguna
Jul 19th 2012, 09:24
UUUU Ajma Jay Oatmon reading your comment seems you not living on the island!! Everything is wrong.... So how come the labout never won over the PN ? Get your fact right!!
Carmel Garcia
Jul 19th 2012, 07:19
JPO dejjaqtna. Aghlaqlu issa u kompli gawdi il-ftit pagamenti li fadallek iddahhal mill-parlament. Ghid grazzi lil dawk li tawk il-vot u ieqaf hemm, ghax li ma kienux dawk li tawk il-vot kieku ma kienx ikollok ic-cans li jiedhol id-divorzju.
M camilleri
Jul 19th 2012, 07:00
Dr Sant bhas soltu kellu ragun imma sfortunatament hadu tard wisq, Grazzi Dr Sant
mark borg
Jul 19th 2012, 06:35
seriously, in this gonzipn saga, there is so much material, for some Hollywood film producer, to come up with a film that would make the Godfather look like Alice in Wonderland.
Carmelo Sammut
Jul 19th 2012, 05:37
JPO Prosit tal hidma li qed taghmel namirak ghax li kieku ma kontx int la ghana divorzju u mhux hierga din l hama kollha fuq dawk li sippost qed imexxuna.
D. Xerri
Jul 19th 2012, 03:16
Tkompli Tohrog Aktar il-Qasma Interna fi Hdan il-P.N.
Alex Bugeja
Jul 19th 2012, 01:44
Kif tahdem il Mafia ta Malta.........qatta briganti.....x'politici ghanna biex imexxu dal pajjiz.
HENRY FENECH AZZOPARDI
Jul 19th 2012, 00:26
Does JPO reallly believe that when he calls a witness he expects that such witness should only utter what is good for his ears?
Is that why the other two witnesses did not make it to the Headquarters to avoid being asked any questions?
Grow up JPO because you have dug yourself a very deep hole that it would be very difficult to move around in your daily routine.
Joe Vella
Jul 19th 2012, 00:17
The MLP leader Joseph Muscat says he did not speak to Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando about collusion with MLP officials.
Will Dr Pullicino Orlando confirm this? We need to put our minds at rest that there was no collusion between them.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 18th 2012, 23:49
JPO must be in a quite a conundrum!
JPO must do the right thing.
R E S I G N !
JC.
E. Azzopardi
Jul 18th 2012, 23:27
I firmly believe, that WE, the PEOPLE, deserve better than this.
Joseph Fenech
Jul 18th 2012, 23:24
DR. FRANCIS ZAMMIT DIMECH TODAY REVEALED THAT THE PN FIRST KNEW THAT THE SOCIALIST LED PARTY OF DR. SANT WERE GOING TO ATTACK JPO DURING ELECTION WEEK FROM THE PRESENT LEADER , HE STATED THAT JOSEPH MUSCAT HAD PASSED THE INFORMATION TO THE PN THUS IMPLYING THAT JOSEPH MUSCAT WAS UNDERMINING ALFRED SANT.
VERY INTERESTING !!!!!!!
WAS JOSEPH MUSCAT ALREADY PLANNING HIS EVENTUAL CANDIDATURE FOR THE PARTY LEADERSHIP IF ALFRED SANT WERE TO LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTIONS ????
INTERSTING INDEED !!!!!
Hossam Helwani
Jul 19th 2012, 01:44
@ Mr Joseph Fenech
given the way lejber operates I would not be at all surprised. The narcissism emerging from certain know it all politicians is quite the trend of the day. And I would not be surprised if all this is true.
Alfred Grech
Jul 18th 2012, 23:01
Malta, the Catholic island where hatred and vindictiveness seem the rule of the day. We had been exposed to reports about all this while our supposedly government spends most of its time trying to sort out the mess and try to decide what is truth and what are lies.
I truly feel sad to see my country enveloped in hatred, jealousy and with so many trying to destroy others. But, that seems to be Malta - maturity lacks especially in the brains of our supposedly rulers.
Politicians, you made us sick - grow up or pack it up.
Alex Ellul
Jul 18th 2012, 22:19
JPO, if it wasn;t for your Mistra contract, exposed by Dr. Sant, the PN would most probably had won the elections by more than one seat. And you would not be bullying the party now. You did not deserve any ministerial position and Dr. Gonzi would have been a hypocrite if he had given you one, but he is not and the best thing for you he could do is put you in a back seat.
instead you bite the hand that feeds you.
Alfred Cassar
Jul 18th 2012, 22:56
Well said , if not for the hand, he's reaching to bite anyone and anything.
I get the feeling this man in the picture is about to cry.
Jeff, knowing you in public with your crying, one would just imagine, what you'd go through in private. I think you should start your mourning period.
Your Political career is dead, both with the PN and the Labour Movement.
A political traitor is always a Traitor.
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jul 18th 2012, 22:12
Jeff, your call! Don't be a kid! Let's not leave any stone unturned...
Ninu
Victor Vella
Jul 18th 2012, 22:09
What do you pretend JPO?. The red carpet at the wolves mouths?. This is GonziPN democracy.
H Stafrace
Jul 18th 2012, 21:04
Shame on you JPO - do you think people are so stupid - you felt 'ill' because your contract valued at hundreds of thousands became public knowledge. Shame on you for having misled so many people including the PM. You need to examine your conscience because unfortunately you seem to be believing your own lies.
m. borg (slm)
Jul 18th 2012, 22:15
Who misled who?
Min dahhaq b'min?
George Cutajar
Jul 18th 2012, 20:44
Had JPOS stopped at voting RCC out by colluding with Labour most probably things would not have escalated so much. In his wisdom he decided to request RCC's expulsion and called in various witnesses none of whom comforted his claims.
By escalating the situation JPOS has now exposed himself to further criticism. It also looks like the ghost of Mistra is back with new overtones and undertones and perhaps more prominent people are going to end up implicated and damaged.
JPOS should simply call it a day, admit his mistake and let things stop. The more he speaks the more he is sinking in the mess of his own making.
Joseph Borg
Jul 18th 2012, 19:50
Imma kemm inthom boloh. Halluhom ha jiggieldu bejniethom. Mhux l-ewwel darba li graw dawn l-affarijiet ghax it tnejn li huma mahmugin u korrotti. Min qed jikreb biex jaqbez ghal xi hadd sinjal li ghandu interessi personali u xejn aktar ma jimpurtah mill pajjiz.
M Grima
Jul 18th 2012, 19:25
Is this how the PN has ended, a party of charlatans, deceit and half truths!!
E Bonnici
Jul 18th 2012, 19:22
U zgur "I'm feeling ill", "nauseous" kienet nahseb il-kelma li ried jghidf. Minjaf x'dardir u roghda kellu fuqhu bil-biza li se jinkixef dak kollu jumejn qabel l-elezzjoni! X'ma jibkix. U ahna c-cwiec m'emminniehx lil A.S!
Joseph Borg
Jul 18th 2012, 19:15
This is what i call a proper counterattack! I bet popcorn sales are doing well!
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Jul 18th 2012, 19:07
How correct was Dr. Alfred Sant and the PL.
I am more convinced now, after what Mr. Pisani stated, how from PN such party turned into Gonzi Partit Negattiv.
Joseph Micallef
Jul 18th 2012, 19:04
My goodness gracious... this GonziPN saga never terminates... uff.. ejja nehilsu min dan il-gvern.... this is an amateur government dedicating its little remaining energy to solve complex internal fights.... how can we trust this regime to govern again... do us a favour GonziPN and call it a day.... you should feel ashamed of yourself... you ruined the country and its people.
Charles Massa
Jul 18th 2012, 18:55
Iz- zejt tela f wicc l-ilma...................kemm ghajruh lil Dr Sant. Iz zmien tah ragun u l-hmieg tal PN inkixef. Ghal hekk il-poplu mhux se jerga jafdhom
Anthony Galea
Jul 18th 2012, 18:37
As a PN supporter, I would prefer to see PN in the Opposition without JPO than in government with JPO. Please Jeffrey, leave the political scene and spend your time in dentistry or Iva Ghal Malta Minghajr Kattolici Injuranti
martin said
Jul 18th 2012, 18:37
Tal biza dawn in nies. Fejn hu l'unur? Flus biss !! Din hi d dinja moderna?
Ahjar immut bil guh milli jkolli x'naqsam maghhom. Iz zewg nahat!!!
pat muscat
Jul 18th 2012, 18:16
I have stopped watching the Sopranos; nothing like GonziPN for entertainment and tales of the unexpected!
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 19:04
JPO with supporting actors Joseph Muscat, Karmenu Vella and Joe Mizzi are the only commedy on the island. Gonzi and PN are the only serious party good enough to govern this country, and what happened these last few days is the proof of that. The opposition, with the help of JPO, has started organising frame ups in it's typical labour style of the 80s!!! Why should the Maltese vote for a party who hasn't changed a bit in the last 30 years? why?
A Trapani
Jul 19th 2012, 01:27
.... you can restart watching the sopranos once MLP are finally back in government Pat..... unless Joseph finds a hofra and triples your utility bills and you won't afford to switch on your TV.
Paul Zammit
Jul 18th 2012, 18:08
@JPO
son ... quit makin a fool of youself...
James Fenech
Jul 18th 2012, 18:06
Jista' xi hadd jghidli ghalfejn kuntratt ta bejh quddiem nutar u li ser tigi mhallsa taxxa fuqu jigi ikkunsidrat skandlu.
Apparti li hemm applikazzjoni l-MEPA.
Kollox seta jkun misjub kif wasal ghan Dr Sant nahseb iz-zewg nahad ghandhom il-messaggiera.
Eve Axiaq
Jul 18th 2012, 20:04
Ahajr ssaqsi lil JPO ghax kieku ma kellux x'jahbi kien jammetti mal-ewwel u jagixxi differenti anke ma shabu stess!
Henry S Pace
Jul 18th 2012, 17:52
' he was being set up as a scapegoat '
JPO made himself a scapegoat to attract the attention of the people '
The country deserves better politicians. Political character leaves much to be desired.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 18th 2012, 17:32
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando was NOT being set up as a scapegoat by the Nationalist Party. If the NP can be faulted at all it is because it gave support to a JPO who did not deserve support and when the NP did not have the facts at its disposal. The responsibility for that failure lay fair and square on Alfred Sant, and not on anyone in the Nationalist Party. It was Sant who was in possession of a copy of the damning contract, not Gonzi, not Gordon Pisani. Unbelievably, Sant acted scared and unconvinc when all the time he held the trump card but did not play it as he should have done.
G Schembri
Jul 18th 2012, 18:06
When did Alfred Sant come into possession of the said contract, and who gave it to him? Did Sant act scared or was he also a pawn, receiving enough information about the Mistra land to cause a stir but not enough to damn JPO, before the election, thus looking scared?
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 19:06
@G Schembri
That we will never know, what we know is that not even PN knew about the whole Mistra case and JPO confirmed that himself today!! PN where in deep trouble and trusted that JPO was saying the truth. Today we have the confirmation that PN and its members acted in good faith when they defended JPO and PL/Labour have only JPO to blame for any missed opportunity...
Joseph Grech Attard
Jul 18th 2012, 19:50
@ Dr. Francis Saliba
today at 17.32
GonziPN acted 100% anti-Dr. Sant and threw as much hate and mud at him as possible, even on the last day of the election campaign. JPO was gieven 100% credibility and Dr. Sant given the title of a 100% liar. Only people with amnesia can alter that. It was RCC himself who sent JPO to follow Dr. Sant wherever he went. Why? For the truth to emerge? Or to pick up the fragments of what was left of GonziPN? And who created the scenario for JPO to suddenly become a journalist when Dr. Sant was going to give a press conference. There was time, and how, to show the truth about Mistra, but GonziPN, as is the case of the history of the PN, preferred to defend evil. Dr. Alfred Sant acted as any honest human being would do and time has proved him right, at least twice, one of them through the Law Courts.
cesco di luigi
Jul 18th 2012, 20:18
Mhux ovvja Dott. ghal nies bhalek KOLLOX tort ta Sant. Now pull the other one
m. borg (slm)
Jul 18th 2012, 22:13
Dr Sant did what he had to do it was up to gonzipn then to censor JPO but did not and played a game of strategy.
It was gonzipn who played underhanded and JPO could not but follow orders to save his skin like anyone else would do.
".....Sant acted scared and unconvinc when all the time he held the trump card but did not play it as he should have done.
Knowing your nationalist credentials this comes as a far fetched opinion. I wonder what you would have said if he did (Sant)
Philip Hili
Jul 18th 2012, 23:57
@ G. Schembri
Sur Scbhembri, nahseb li qabel sar dan il-kuntratt, xi haga IL-MEPA !!!! saret hux!!! Daqs kemm hemm kuntatti fil-MEPA!!!!
Min ghandu mohh biex jifhem, ha jifhem!!!!!
G Schembri
Jul 19th 2012, 07:57
Sur Hili, dan il-Kuntratt ma sarx il-MEPA izda ghand nutar. Il-MEPA l-applikazjoni ghal bini saret, imma kuntratt ta' Kera normalment isir privatament, ghalkemm ried ikun hemm prova tal-kuntratt, la l-applikazjoni ma kienitx f'isem is-sid.
Philip Hili
Jul 19th 2012, 10:27
@G Schembri
Sur Schembri qabel it-taptap, ara xi jkun inkiteb :- "qabel sar dan il-kuntratt, xi haga IL-MEPA !!!! saret hux!!! "
Hadd ma qallek li l-kuntratt mhux ghand in-nutar sar. Imma la ktibt hekk nahseb li r-ruh fehmet ghalliema "kuntatti" qieghed nirreferi.
Sur Schembri, in-nies taf lin-nies!!!!!!!!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 19th 2012, 10:45
@ Joseph Grech Attard, yesterday at 19:50
It stands to reason that the Nationalist Party would oppose Alfred Sant because, as MLP party leader, he was the embodiment of Labour. That it “threw as much hate and mud at him as possible”, that is your brash distortion and it that does not deserve attention.
As the truth about Mistra started to emerge, after the election, Pullicino Orlando was NOT given 100% credibility. He was only reluctantly tolerated as a scab and a nuisance by the NP and only because his vote was essential for the survival of government. Om the other hand, it was Joseph Muscat's LP that started to embrace what Sant had condemned as morally and politically corrupt. The Labour Part is acting like the proverbial Petrine cur that returned to lick back what it had just vomited.
Sant’s disclosure of the existence of a damnable contract, was deliberately timed for the eve of the election when it would cause maximum damage and it was a cheap political trick. It needed to be countered urgently. This was done successfully but only because Sant failed to convince the electorate about the reality of the Mistra scandal.
Alfred Sant acted as “any human being” in the sense that he made a mistake and, as a result, he was punished and unceremoniously ditched by his own party, the MLP.
George Cremona
Jul 18th 2012, 17:31
JPO has said enough throughout these last four years to assure every being on the Maltese islands of his real CREDENTIALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Louis Craus
Jul 18th 2012, 17:27
Ara kif spicca il- PN ukoll! Xi hmieg hiereg!!!!
Mr Joseph Huber
Jul 18th 2012, 17:54
Don't forget dear friend that there is a Maltese saying which goes: kull min jgħolli għabtu kulħadd għandu xi jxomm!!!!
D Vella
Jul 18th 2012, 18:03
Dak m'hu xejn siehbi . . . . stenna daqsxejn sakemm jibdew jaghmlu l-istess il-lejber . . . ! ! !
Eddy Privitera
Jul 18th 2012, 19:04
D.Vella: Ghandek xi hila straordinarja li taf li l-PL se jghamel l-istess HNIZRIJIET li ghamel GonziPN ?
Min jaf kieku int tghid lil xi had li t-talija "Qahba", u dan jiripondik li ohtok hekk se tispicca wkoll ! Xi tghid ?
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 19:18
The only person getting out dirty from this issue is JPO plus those who helped him out; Joseph Muscat, Karmenu Vella and the other puppet "I do whatever the leader tells me to do" Joe Mizzi. What is clear to all Maltese is how PN before the last election acted in good trust believing the version JPO sold them. What is clear to Maltese is how Gonzi and PN are the only who are still managing this country in a civilized and respectful way, while PL is the real culprit for turning politics in Malta into one big joke!!
cesco di luigi
Jul 18th 2012, 17:27
What I can't understand is this...JPO won the game in Parliament, why the hell did he have to go on to this expel from the PN party nonsense...who the heck does it remotely interest if anyone is a member of this party or not???? All he had to do was keep voting against Government in Parlaiment using the excuse that RCC was still leading the Government from behind the scenes...
Joseph Borg
Jul 18th 2012, 17:24
Hekk komplu ghamlu, aljenaw il polplu mid dizaztru li hawn f'dan il mishut pajjiz.
Angus Black
Jul 18th 2012, 18:43
Il-ghala 'mishut pajjiz' Sur Joseph Borg? X'jonqsok? Flus fil-but? Impieg ta nies? Serhan il-mohh?
Mela kemm ikun aktar mishut jekk tal-Lejber, mimli skaduti mill-70 u 80ijiet jerghu jigu bir-riedni f'idejhom?
Bilhaqq iva, l-aqwa li Joseph irahhaslek it-tariffa tad-dawl imma ma jimporta xejn jekk jghollilek it-taxxi mas-sema!
Mur gibek tghix il-Grecja, jew Spanja fejn il-qaghad iqarreb 20%, il-pagi u l-penzjonijiet imnaqqsa u t-taxxi mghollija. Mela x'kont taghmel? Tispara ghar-rasek? Kull meta tikkummenta w tuza kliem Joseph iktar il-kreddibilta tieghek u tal PL tkompli tghodos aktar milli hi.
Lina Caruana
Jul 18th 2012, 21:04
May God save us and not condemn us!!!!! May the Lord have mercy on our wayward politicians wherever they are sited.
Mary Ann Borg
Jul 18th 2012, 21:18
Ghandek ragun li dan hu pajjiz mishut Sur Borg. Mishut ghax ghad hemm il-possibilita' li jerga jkollna l-Lejber fil-gvern immexxi minn wiehed mdawwar bin-nies tal-80s.
Wilfred Camilleri
Jul 18th 2012, 17:22
JPO is a political joke and the sooner he disappears off the political scene, the better off Malta will be!
Joe Tabone
Jul 18th 2012, 17:18
Jeffrey is definetly a scapegoat, by of PL.
LABOUR put him in the deep end...............................and let him drown!!
j brincat
Jul 18th 2012, 17:16
One simple question: Was JPO aware that the telephone is being recorded?
(jb)
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 17:01
"The Nationalist MP added that what happened yestersay meant that"...
No JPO, it meant that you tricked PN before the election. It means PN knew even less then labour and Sant and only in good faith where you told to go to the Police, only when you assured them you did nothing illegal did they do all their best to defend you from the attacks of labour, later all nationalists found out the true story and obviously JPO was sidelined!! Clearly JPO did not like the outcome ... and soon found new masters ...
G Schembri
Jul 18th 2012, 18:15
Do you really believe that the leaders of the PN knew less than the MLP about the Mistra case. If you follow the story closely you will realise that the PN were always a step in front of Alfred Sant. The Mistra story was one of the reasons many PN supporters who had decided not to vote went out in the eleventh hour and voted, thinking that JPO was being bullied by Alfred Sant. The PN gained many votes through this story. I wonder who is the master of frameups the PL or the PN.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 19:19
@G Schembri
That is my understanding of the above article, JPO, the person who PL have been defending and declaring as the innocent of all innocents, confirmed so it seems ... PN phoned him to ask him what the story was about and had to wait two days before JPO gave them an answer!! All of a sudden JPO is not so innocent for PL???
m. borg (slm)
Jul 18th 2012, 22:07
The only honest person in gonzipn 4 years ago was Joe Saliba who immediately let know that JPO should vacate his seat.
gonzi and the rest were content to move along with JPO.
Who is dishonest JPO or gonzipn.
It is natural that even hardened criminals try to clear their names, JPO did nothing out of the extraordinary but gonzipn did.
m. borg (slm)
Jul 18th 2012, 17:01
The gonzipners call the years under a labour government as dictatorial yet it happens that only telephone conversations and meetings carried out by nationalists and recorded by nationalists have come to light.
What a lovely democracy we live in.
ken camilleri
Jul 18th 2012, 16:57
What JPO did with the Mistra saga is very serious. On TV and in public "Il Paladino dell'ambiente" but he was always after profits at ALL COSTS. JPO was one of the reasons why I did not vote.
And in all fairness Dr Alfred Sant did well to target JPO. Moreover the nationalist did even better to sideline him. What I am disappointed is the Joseph Muscat's Labour embraced such a person.
Noel Damato
Jul 18th 2012, 16:43
Sa fejn naf jien il-parlament kien ga ha vot u carissimu dwar il-kwistjoni RCC. Mela issa l-ezekuttiv mar kontra l-vot tal-parlament. Dan jider li kollox imanipulat mill-klikka ta GonziPN halli jitwarbu certu nies li jistghu jkunu huma li jergghu jerfghu l-PN bhala partit wiehed. Il-bierah urew li minn ma jaqbilx mahhom jilghabu bil fatti u jitwarrab. Ta min ifakkar li l-problemi baqghu hemm u l-instabilita hemm baqghat ukoll pero li l-klikka tgawdi l-aqwa. FD illum nahseb li qieghed ukoll jinduna li gie tradut sempliciment ghax prova jirranga imma twarrab ukoll.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 17:04
@Noel Damato
Clearly you lack any basic understanding of democracy and of what is going on. Parliament voted and RCC resigned from his job. However that does not mean that RCC had to also resign from PN; Unlike labour times, Parliament and the party are not the same thing...
Joseph Agius
Jul 18th 2012, 16:33
Parliament has been turned into a classroom of Form 2 kiddos! rivalry, competition, scapegoats, ridicule, bullying, hiding hands, throwing mud and childish behaviour. Hope children in secondary schools do not get their example from our MPs.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 17:15
Thanks to who? .... thanks to JPOS supported by Joseph Muscat ...
julian caruana
Jul 18th 2012, 16:27
when in a glass house do not throw stones......
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 18th 2012, 17:28
And don't take you clothes off either!
Mario Galea
Jul 18th 2012, 16:27
Its funny but in spite of all the evidence the people chose not to believe Alfred Sant. Wonder Why?
G Schembri
Jul 18th 2012, 18:17
Ghax il-magna tal-PN hija aktar hazina min Alfred Sant. Ara kif qed ifarku lil taghhom stess, ahseb u ara lil ta kontihom.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 18th 2012, 20:04
Easy to know: THEY NEVER SUSPECTED THAT THE MISTRA AFFAIR WAS ALL STAGE-MANAGED BY RCC AND THE GONZIPN STRATEGISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Philip Hili
Jul 18th 2012, 23:59
@ MARIO GALEA
Because he seemed not sure of himself. Had he been sure of himself, he should have accepted the challenge and called his bluff.
K CASSAR
Jul 18th 2012, 16:26
Though I don't believe that JPO is as pure as he makes believe, I do think it's unfair that PN had their way once again with the RCC case. That decision in particular has really left the country reeling as time passes and uncertainty grows. The sobriety they claim to have must have taken a hefty nosedive as they don't give a hoot about anything other than what they put in their pockets!!!
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 17:08
What does the decision on RCC have to do with the country? The government is still in place and indeed has still not lost one single vote of confidence (since if it had indeed lost one we would be going strait for an election).
Clearly what we have in front of us is a political frame up by PL with the aid of JPOS. Clearly labour with Joseph Muscat is still the same old party of the 80s, the party who was at the helm of the country in one of the most violent decade this country ever witnessed.
Victor Laiviera
Jul 18th 2012, 16:21
"When thieves fall out, honest men come into their own"
Edgar Gatt
Jul 18th 2012, 16:18
An old saying directed to JPO. When you find yourself in a hole do not continue digging.
Joseph Grech Attard
Jul 18th 2012, 16:17
So all the talking about corruption is true after all! Or is this allowed within the boundaries of a Christian Democrat Party like the PN and GonziPN?
Mr Joseph Apap
Jul 18th 2012, 17:31
Where is the corruption in yesterdays meeting
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 18th 2012, 17:41
@ Joseph Grech Attard, today at 16:17.
The corruption lies in the fact that the Labour Party knowing full well that it was associating with a person that its own leader had identified as morally and politically corrupt, supported that person in his scheme for personal vengeance and destroyed the career of an honest and capable person who had given excellent and faithful service to his country.
K. Vella
Jul 18th 2012, 16:16
Miskin.....JPO pls. better you stay quite.....the more you talk the more you are losing credibility....
I trusted you, I beleived you, I followed you now I am ashamed of you...
Go on ONE TV hemmhekk hemm il-klikka tieghek and you will feel at home....the same klikka that harm you all along....just go on YOU TUBE and search on the press releases they did...
John Cole Smith
Jul 18th 2012, 17:05
Word around is Labour has expelled JPOS before even considering him. A week in Politics is a lifetime, so many things have happened.
So silent are Ministers and the Cabinet, well they are busy , dishing out wrapped presents and driving the country into total oblivion!
I wish I could see what a 'HOFRA' we are truly in!
That is what Gonzi PN must talk about now, since JPO is history.
And History it is, so if JPO is a man of word, having said , his expulsion would lead to instant elections, that should suppose to mean, with the next vote, if we have one, the government , will fall.
Down goes Jeff, down goes the Government.
Lawrence Camilleri
Jul 18th 2012, 16:14
Mank haqq dak il-biki kollu li xerridt, imma anke l-kkudrilli jxerrdu biki wara kollox, allura ghaliex inti le? Dak ma tghildna xejn ghalih?? Sur JPO!
Colin Camilleri
Jul 18th 2012, 16:14
GonziPN, was it worth it to procrastinate in calling early elections? Was it worth it to stick to power at all costs at the expense of the humiliations the PN and Malta must go through now? Was it worth it all this while Malta is stuck in all this uncertainty and recession? Do you still call this business as usual? Do you still perceive not going to early polls as "good for the country"? Do you still believe that this will bring additional jobs to the Maltese islands?
Does all this make sense? Instead of talking how to move ahead and get the country out of recession, the government is just wasting its time dealing with its internal strife.
Is the chair in Castille so important? More important than the love towards the nation?
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 18th 2012, 17:14
Why should he? Did he loose a vote of confidence? NO!! Then Gonzi is duty bound to stay on as PM and govern this country - even when faced with PL which only interests are to gain power then the real good for this country - even when faced with PL who shows all the sign of being the same old party of the 80s so famous for the frame ups they used to organize!!
... and mind you, in the next election people will not vote for the party they want to govern the country, but for the party they want to remain in the opposition!!
John L Galea
Jul 19th 2012, 08:15
@Joseph Aquilina: Why doesn't Gonzi call for another vote of confidence now after the drama has escalated?
F. Scicluna
Jul 18th 2012, 16:13
JPOS was used by the GONZIPN team and the the election result is to his credit ONLY. Now they dont need him any more. Dumping him !!!!
Philip Hili
Jul 19th 2012, 00:07
@ F. Scicluna
You are very much mistaken Mr. Scicluna!!
Had it not been the case of Mistra in which this person is involved, the PN would have had three seat majority not one! It is not to his credit that the PN won last elections. But it is to his credit that the PN lost two seats majority.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 18th 2012, 16:08
Why is JPO trying to play the part of the victim?
Wasn’t it not because of his dealings in the Mistra case that got JPO in this mess and by the revelation of the contract by Alfred Sant?
Why did not JPO check that no copies of his contracts were leaked and who might possibly have leaked them. If he did not do his home-work properly, then he should suffer the consequences.
The unfortunate thing is that he willingly or unwillingly did drag other innocent parties in this saga!
There is only one thing for JPO and that it is to admit that he made a hotchpotch of all this and cry out loudly Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Massima Culpa!
JC.
John Cole Smith
Jul 18th 2012, 16:54
Hi Joe,
he used to do that , at school, as they say we never change.
: )
John Cole Smith
Jul 18th 2012, 16:04
I cannot but, smile from ear to ear and slap my forehead, with my uncontrollable left hand, it seems like, it wanted to do it for a long time, ..........
From,
JP
to
JPO
to
JPOS
to
J, J, J,
JWHO?
LOL
Alfred Vassallo
Jul 18th 2012, 16:04
''I realised that, after having used me to gain points by portraying Dr Alfred Sant as a bully as part of the 'Mistra campaign', they were now in the process of setting me up as a scapegoat in the eventuality of an electoral defeat.''
You see my fellow citizens how the pn machine works, they thrive on anything that suits their evil end, yes anything, even selling their souls to the devil. PL are angels compared to these soulless hyenas.
Peter Saliba
Jul 18th 2012, 16:02
Ara sewwa jghidu ta' li l-giddieba ghomorhom qasir u li z-zejt jitla' f'wicc l-ilma.
Joe Vella
Jul 18th 2012, 15:59
JPOS, You cannot excuse the inexcusable. It is to late to save your sorry A**. You have lost what ever little credibility you has, Period..
Carmel Borg
Jul 18th 2012, 15:54
@ JPOS.
In fact surveys and polls showed that you cost PN some 1500 to 2000 less votes. The PN majority would have been slightly bigger should you behaved like a politician and gentleman instead of an award winning actor.
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 18th 2012, 15:53
"JPOS realised that he was being set up to be used as a scapegoat in the eventuality of an election defeat".
Miskin it-tifel !!!!!!!!!!!! Poor boy !!!!!!!!! Povero ragazzo!!!!!!!
Alfred Vassallo
Jul 18th 2012, 16:15
The truth hurts eh, Angelo, of course it does. The big pn spinning machine has been brought to a griding halt!
From now on people will start saying ''is it so'..... 'what if'....'' look what came out from that JPO affair'.....'' can't trust these people any more.''
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jul 18th 2012, 16:32
Mr Vassallo, Poveri noi! Due to these shenanigans coming to light, the Maltese citizen is waking up to the reality of electioneering spin. Maliciousness, cut throat outright lies and glossy undo-able promises. I auger the Maltese citizen to open his ears and eyes and not let anyone treat him so shabbily again.
Ms Xaxa Caruana
Jul 18th 2012, 15:53
The truth is that the PN are angry with JPO..... and thanks to that , now we will know the truth........that Alfred Sant was telling the truth.
Its like PN are playing paintball against each other.
Well done and continue like this.
John Cole Smith
Jul 18th 2012, 16:18
good 1
K CASSAR
Jul 18th 2012, 16:32
Well said Ms Caruana. All the things that Alfred Sant said have actually turned out to be true including the economic predictions! If we had Dr. Sant as the minister of finance, Malta would be playing a much happier game!!!
Alfred Cassar
Jul 18th 2012, 22:59
K Cassar, yes if he were to be our Finance minister, we would still be using the Maltese Lira devaluated by 10% and perhaps another 10%
matthew tanti
Jul 18th 2012, 15:51
of course JPOS could not give a damn about anyone, he is rich enough to do so!
m farrugia
Jul 18th 2012, 16:31
that's it
u ahna l-imsieken issa noqoghdu nghumu f'bahar taxex u ghaks taht il pl u hu jilhaq xi chairman u joqghod ippapiha taht il labour biex jirringrazzjawh tal palata li tahom biex iwaqqghu gvern legittimu
wara kollox daphne kellha ragun tghid snin ilu li jpo qed ikun spiss fkumpanija ta nies tal pl f'social events u ggib ritratti, iz zejt tiela fwicc l-ilma
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 18th 2012, 15:47
It is becoming very clear that there is an internal struggle within the PN as to who will run the party after Dr Gonzi is dumped following the next election. You can see that the oligarchy are trying to clean out their opponenets. It is always the same names that keep on coming up, asking the questions and making certain statements. A party that is clearly fragmented and divided. RIP PN.
Joe Vella
Jul 18th 2012, 16:02
Andrew Camilleri, the PN have never been divided, unlike the PL. The PN is greater then its' parts. The PN will emerge stronger then ever, and that doesn't hold well for the PL.
John Cole Smith
Jul 18th 2012, 16:22
Is it not a fact that the 'Appointed One' who has been a staunch supporter of the outgoing loser, will not survive the light of day?
To my knowledge if I support blindfold, my mentor, I support what he does, and agree fully to his results.
Logically with Dr. Busutill, we should expect not more of the same , but a catastrophe.
John L Galea
Jul 19th 2012, 08:11
@Joe Vella:" the PN have never been divided, unlike the PL. The PN is greater then its' parts."...yes yes and the tooth fairy exists...and pigs can fly too...lol
Kevin Marks
Jul 18th 2012, 15:43
Tghid dan id diskors intqal il bierah jew kif tohorgu mill ezekuttiv toqoghdu tpatptu fuq il gazzetti?
B Ellul
Jul 18th 2012, 15:42
Yawn....
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