Vella, Mizzi, will not attend PN executive meeting

Mario Camilleri

Jul 18th 2012, 13:07

@Philip Hili,

Mela ma tgħidli xejn issa fuq il-ĠURAMENT u l-AFFIDAVIT???????

Qed nistenna!!

Mario Camilleri

Jul 18th 2012, 13:05

Issa lil dawk kollha li qed jiddevjaw l-attenzjoni minfuq il-gwerra ċivili fil-PN għal fuq Karmenu Vella, Joe Mizzi u l-PL qed twaqqugħ għar-redikolu l-kridibilita tal-PM, il-Ministri, is-Segretarji Parlamentari, il-Ġudikatura, il-Pulizija u inklużi dawk kollha fil-karigi għoljin fdtai minn GonziPN jekk ma taċċettawx il-qawwa u l-validita tal-ġurament u l-affidavit jew dak li jintqal fil-pubbliku meta hemm il-qorti bil-proċess tal-libell jekk ikun il-każ.

Għażżlu intom liema triduha tkun!!!

Angelo Vassallo

Jul 18th 2012, 12:32

@ Willie Grech

Mr. Mario Galea must have been indoors for quite a while. And even you Willie Grech are spending a lot of time at home.

Like all the lejburisti, the statistics from NSO and Eurostat are only correct when it is BAD NEWS and you enjoy very much spreading bad news.

You can also check out for yourself what you fail to mention regarding the ILO statistics that show that the labour market in Malta is very strong. This is what the ILO had this to say about Malta:

Labour markets have not recovered from the global crisis …

Despite an improvement in the past year, labour markets have not recovered from the global crisis and there is an overall decline in employment growth in advanced economies by 1.6 per cent for the period 2007–11. For countries with available information, employment rates have increased since 2007 only in six (Austria, Germany, Israel, Luxembourg, MALTA and Poland) of the 36 advanced economies (16 per cent) and in 60 per cent (17 out of 29 countries) of the developing economies.

Joseph M. Grech.

Jul 18th 2012, 12:01

Ghalfejn ghandhom imorru jixhdu KV u JM?
Hargu stqarrijja u ghandna nemmnuhom!
L-istess bhalma emminna lil KV meta qal li ma kienx jaf li ma tistax tidhol l-Ghadira wara li tigi minn Sqallija.
Lil JM nemmnuh ukoll bhal meta ra "Something Fishy" fuq dokument tal-maritime u wara plejtu shih hareg ta' ragel.

It-tnejn ta' min joqghod fuqhom dawn iz-zewg esponenti tal-MLP/PL li qed jergghu jigu proposti li jkunu fil-gvern immexxi minnhom!

Mr Emanuel Farrugia

Jul 18th 2012, 09:02

"In identical letters, Mr Vella and Mr Mizzi said they had already declared publicly what they needed to say. The Executive Committee was not a judicial institution and they did not wish to be involved in the internal disputes of its officials, more so when the prime minister appeared to have already decided in favour of Mr Cachia Caruana".

Dawn huma 'l politikanti li joffri dan 'l pajjiz. Meta wiehed jaqra sew u jifhem dan l-artiklu, jinduna sew x'inhi d-direzzjoni tal-politikanti f'dan 'l pajjiz. Tkomplux tkunu ipokriti.

Emanuel Farrugia former Executive Secretary Mtarfa Local Council

Richard Caruana

Jul 18th 2012, 06:44

Typical lejber. First they throw mud and then they hide their hands.

These are aspiring ministers in JM's court once he gets elected.

Ahna ahna jew m'ahniiex?

Philip Hili

Jul 18th 2012, 01:34

Mela tibzghu mill-verita'?

Mur gibtkom tmexxuna, ara f'kemm il-kantuniera ddahhluna!!!!!

Laurence Muscat

Jul 17th 2012, 23:46

Mr Privitera,

I heard the recordings sure, and there is nothing clear, everything vague,...
What I also heard is that both Carmenu vella and Joe Mizzi, first made accusations, wrote affidavit's, but did not have the guts to appear in front of the PN executive to answer in person. So typical, Nitfa il gebla, u nahbi idi..
and BTW, both of them are front men in the next elections.... Is this the new mlp???

Some things never change - mlp is one of them.....

Eddy Privitera

Jul 17th 2012, 20:21

GonziPN commentators: Haven't you heard the recordings of RCC speaking about former PN ministers Lawrence Gatt and Guido Demarco ????? And didn't you read about RCC's denial that he ever mentioned any ministers in connection with the attempt on his life ? DO YOU STILL BELIEVE RCC after hearing those recordings ????

Toni Botta

Jul 17th 2012, 20:07

I've always knew that somehow M_LP was involved in all this and the above itself speaks volumes, JM have always been aware that there are MP from the government who thought they deserve or had the divine right to be made ministers.

I cant help but M_LP fuelled all this in order to hide behind the PN troubles since no one would question their electoral manifest ( if they have one at all ). Why would Mizzi &Vella make such claims but then they doesn't want to be involved. If i don't want to be involved in an argument the least I would do is not to make such comments and not fuel speculation with baseless accusations.

Also, if these people new long before this came to light and AS and JM were aware of this, should these people be trusted with running our country, our economy, our education system and our laws. should they not shoulder political responsibility and resign rather then use this information for their own personal gain.
I mean not long ago CMB had to resign from parliament because the same people told us that we shall all shoulder political responsibility.

Where is the political responsibility of Mizz and Vella ?????, Because if their accusations against RCC is true then they hid this information from the public and if JM accept them to run for the next election with the M_LP that would make him corrupted as well.

Mario Camilleri

Jul 17th 2012, 19:06

Lil dawk kollha li qed jikkummenta fil-vojt li Karmenu Vella u Joe Mizzi cowards, tiprovawx taħbu t-travu li għandkom f'għajnejnkom. Infakkar li l-ewwel nett qatt ħadd minnhom la KV u l-anqas JM ma qalu li ser jattendi għall-eżekuttiv tal-PN u aktar minhekk dawn it-tnejn taw il-verżjoni fil-pubbliku b'Karmenu jagħmel affidavit. Issa jekk l-affidavit mhux aċċettat mela veru issa qed twaqqgħu kollox għar-redikolu.
Minnaħa l-oħra, u ma tarawx li tal-PL mhux posthom imorru għat-teatrini nazzjonalisti u jkunu parti mil-farsa. Aħna komdi naraw din il-farsa minn barra, hekk jew hekk mill-ħġieġ tara kollox.
U biex inkun għalaqt il-ħluq li qed ipeċilqu fil-vojt, dik id-dar tal-ħġieġ tal-Pieta mhix l-għola istituzzjoni tal-pajjiż. Jew issa anke l-kwartieri nazzjonalisti saru l-parlament u l-qorti???
Għalhekk Gonzi kburi bit-teatru bla saqaf għax jidher li jħobb iseġwihom t-teatrini.

O Kassar

Jul 17th 2012, 18:58

Chicken! Jekk huma rgiel misshom marru halli jippruvaw dak li qalu dwar RCC mhux tefghu gebla u hbew idejhom. Veru politkanti skaduti. U dawn qed jaspiraw li jsiru ministri fil-gvern ta' Muscat. Anzi wiehed minnhom qed jikteb il-programm Elettorali li mhu se jasal qatt. Ara ftit x'serjeta' din u kif se jgibu lill-Maltin b'id wahda wara u ohra quddiem. Imbaghad naraw kemm jizdied is-safar tal-Maltin!

Mr Anthony Briffa

Jul 17th 2012, 17:26

A cowards' retreat.

This what the Maltese will get if they do not use their vote properly in the next general election and vote wishes and road maps.

Ray Buhagiar

Jul 17th 2012, 17:19

Vella, Mizzi and PL are finding their way out of this mess. Amateurs.

Joe Pavia

Jul 17th 2012, 17:11

Well done Karmenu Vella and Joe Mizzi. Fine gentlemen. Just imagine you being Ministers again. Thats why the PL has no credibility never had and never will have.

Joe A. Borg

Jul 17th 2012, 17:03

As much as I wish that you are all correct, the move by Vella and Mizzi is an excellent one.

In simple trems, if JPO fails to acheive his target this evening, he promised to walk away from the PN, and by doing so the PN is done.

Let's end this party from all this misery and for the sake of our party find a leader with the right leadership skills.

John Borg

Jul 17th 2012, 16:51

Lino Spiteri said it was a fine big mess. Labour Leader Joseph Muscat first said Alfred Sant knows about the issues. sant said he knew nothing. then he endorsed Karmenu Vella by publishing and speaking about his affidavit. now labour is trying to see how to wriggle out of it. what an amateur leader. Do we really want this kind of prime minister. maybe he's getting it wrong as he did not e mail Sabrina for her advice?

Joe Vella

Jul 17th 2012, 16:47

Love seeing JPOS frying in his own oil.

Saviour Aquilina

Jul 17th 2012, 16:34

Because they have nothing true to tell, that`s why they not going. CHICKENS

Alexander Pace Gouder.

Jul 17th 2012, 16:31

What a MESS. It is high time The Nation gets to know what is really going on. From comments all over the Island and this i quote in Maltese. "IL POPLU KOLLHU AHMAR JEW BLUE ISSA XEBBA SAL PONTA TA' IMNIHRU B'DIN IL PANTOMINA." BLA BLA BLA TIT FOR TAT. Come on all concerned stand up and end this MESS for the benefit of Malta and also of course for the benefit of the PN.

A Dimech

Jul 17th 2012, 16:30

good move - let them boil in peace and alone!

Saviour Fenech

Jul 17th 2012, 16:29

Bhas-soltu, jitfghu t-tajn (xi haga jehel) bla ebda provi. Mela issa, lil Karmenu Vella, mhux ser narawh fuq it-television kif issuggerixxa sarkastikament Dottor Joseph Muscat.

william cauchi

Jul 17th 2012, 16:28

But does anybody in his right mind expect somebody from the Partit Laburista to come forward and testify to try to solve an internal problem in the Partit Nazzjonalista.

Which political party in the whole world would come forward to help to solve the internal problems of its opposing party.

Dream on.

Bernard Manduca

Jul 17th 2012, 16:27

Of course they won't attend. After all the flame stoking that has been going on, directly or indirectly, why would elements of the PL want to snuff the flames. They are best served by standing back like Nero at this stage. Failing to prove anything at this stage is on an equal par with failing to disprove. This whole business is not about RCC at all; it is simply the lowest form of politics. Such a pity this brilliant devoted man had to find himself in this ridiculous situation. Still, every dog has his day, and, when that day comes I hope he bares his teeth.

Michael Gatt

Jul 17th 2012, 16:27

Jiena qed nara gwerra mitlufa ghal Pulicino Orlando. Vera pastazata ohra ta Gonzi PN

Maria Vassallo

Jul 17th 2012, 16:14

Madness!
Cowardice!
Patriots???

Henry S Pace

Jul 17th 2012, 16:10

' Vella, Mizzi, will not attend PN executive meeting '

ARE THEY AFRAID TO BE CROSS EXAMINED.

iF THEY REALLY DO NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS AFFAIR THEY SHOULD HAVE REFUSED TO BE NAMED BY jpo AS WITNESSES.

Ronnie Callus

Jul 17th 2012, 16:05

Good move Karmelo Vella and Joe Mizzi leave Gonzi PN to talk to himself. Now it's the ex-Minister Gatt and Dr.Demarco are to stand up and speak for their implication by RCC. The pan is boiling to it's brim.

Angelo Vassallo

Jul 17th 2012, 16:02

@ Mario Galea

"The country is sliding slowly into recession and poverty"

It seems that you have not been out and around Malta and Gozo these last couple of days. Or as we say in Maltese "ghajnejk mhumiex f'wiccek" Give us a break Mario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

S Farrugia

Jul 17th 2012, 15:58

Well done!!! Let GonziPN and his so called 'strong hands' face his problems.

Joe Vella

Jul 17th 2012, 15:55

If Vella and Mizzi Are not attending, then the PN should not allow any evidence presented on their behalf since they will be not there to be cross examined.

Joe Sammut

Jul 17th 2012, 15:48

So JPO asked Karmenu Vella and Joe Mizzi for permission to name them but did not ask them to go the whole hog .

I think JPO is being let down here. As for Mizzi and Vella they did not bother throwing mud even though they got dirtier more than their victim.

Vella has to answer why the inquiry on Air Malta was not published.

And Mizzi has to tell us why the zero tollerance on corruption was not followed as Charlie Mangion had to do! !

BTW : I followed JPO’s televised interview on One TV , I wonder why Mistra was not mentioned.

Richard Caruana

Jul 17th 2012, 15:45

Of course they won't attend. Not even Dr Alfred Sant would confirm what they said, as 'he did not know', although JM said on TV that Dr Sant 'nahseb kien knoxju'!

JPOS, you've been left high and dry. Like being marooned on a desert island.

G Falzon

Jul 17th 2012, 15:44

And most probably JPO will not attend either as I think nobody would bend his knees for him and change the security staff at the doors!

D Vella

Jul 17th 2012, 15:35

Now THERE's a surprise . . . (!)

Leo Said

Jul 17th 2012, 15:29

Miskin Dr.Pullicino Orlando.

Confucius is reported to have said: "Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated".

Joseph Grech Attard

Jul 17th 2012, 15:25

Well done Vella and Mizzi. You showed you are true statesmen and politicians. You did not fall into the trap of GonziPN! Wow! I would not even reply to any insults. Joseph Muscat is leading the race very well. He does not get involved with GonziPN problems. He is white as snow while the 'clique' is as black as tar and smells more foul than rotten fish. Let us 'Lejber elves' keep away from this gutter-smell.

Mario Galea

Jul 17th 2012, 15:23

The country is sliding slowly into recessionand poverty. Who care JPO, FD and JM (Mugliette) have had their moments in the front pages. Either bring own the government and force an election or shup up. We, the common citizen, are stuggling hard to bring bread to the table for our family. Your actions or inactions are not helping the least!! This country and all the Malteses diserve better!

Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO

Jul 17th 2012, 15:18

A strange and byzantine dirty game is being played in this whole RCC saga with some foolish guys and dimwits not realising they are being used. The sub-plot conspiracies which are being concocted in the columns of the other newspapers (not the TOM) perhaps point to a hidden hand and hidden fact that the main strategist consideration is no longer RCC who anyway has now been chastised but the Demarco family and their future political aspirations. With the current ascendency of Mario Demarco in the eyes of PN supporters and with Lawrence Gonzi's days being clearly numbered it seems that those who cannot fathom but are resigned to the fact that Joseph Muscat will be the next national leader are now turning their attention to damaging the chances of Mario Demarco, another unfathomable bete noire in their eyes, to becoming the next leader of the PN.

Fran Abela

Jul 17th 2012, 15:15

Why am I not surprised that Mr. Vella and Mr. Mizzi will not be attending. As usual the Labour Party are only capable of mud slinging but when the crunch comes they steer away. OK so it is an internal problem within the PN, then they should not have said anything at all and ignored JPO.

Norbert Abela

Jul 17th 2012, 15:09

I agree with Mr Vella and Mr Mizzi... This issue is already solved by Gonzi when he said that this a frame up created by JPO… Let them “SOLVE” their problems alone… and the meantime continue to waste more precious time for Malta…

John Cole Smith

Jul 17th 2012, 15:08

This reminds me of 'Pie in Your Face', situation.

I think enough is enough.

Many families are queuing up for food parcels at centers for the poor.

But Who Cares.

This is comparable to a suicide by cop mission and the offender will bring down and together with him take to the grave as many around him as possible.

Tony Mangion

Jul 17th 2012, 15:05

Strictly speaking you have every right not to attend to the P.N. executive committee since you think that the Prime Minister has already decided upon this case, but being public officials between 1996 and 1998 and have strong submissions, I think for fairness sake, you should not fail JPO in his endevour to unearth the whole truth. If you have decided accordingly due to lack of safety, you should ask for proper protection.

Barney Camilleri

Jul 17th 2012, 15:03

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!
So we have a problem for the historians, how about that?
It seem to have ended so far with the PM being reported to have said there is the making of a frameup and JPO giving us a one and a half hour lesson this morning on democracy and how it should work JPO style. With two that I am aware quoted telling him you Sir you are talking of the back.

George Cutajar

Jul 17th 2012, 14:58

More breaking news. What a day this has been and it is only 15.00. Now that Karmenu Vella and Joe Mizzi have declared they will not be attending how does JPOS expect to prove his case and allegations? All we have are the statement made by Mr. Vella and Mr. Mr. Mizzi.

How can RCC defend his position against the allegations made against him ? JPOS is making a mockery of the situation which he ignited. He cited witnesses all of whom do not want to show up. Are we now to expect that he withdraws his motion and ride silently into the wilderness and leave everyone in peace? We still have a two hour wait and matters might evolve in that direction.

Leo Said

Jul 17th 2012, 14:57

Veru miskin Dr.Pullicino Orlando.

Confucius him says: "Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated".

R. Balzan

Jul 17th 2012, 14:57

Ergo, Richard Cachia Caruana is cleared of all accusations and proclaimed a Beato, to be sanctified at a later date. Ergo, Dr Pullicino Orlando keeps his word and proclaims he is no longer a parliamentarian representing the Nationalist Party. Ergo Dr Gonzi is finally convinced that he has to call a general election in Autumn. Ergo, the wish of the majority of Maltese is finally realized. Thank you all.

Joseph E Briffa

Jul 17th 2012, 14:54

Apparently Labour are realising the harm they are doing to their own party by getting involved in this issue. Labour is being perceived by right-thinking people, including a number of Labourites, that they are not only colluding with the rebels and marginated members of the PN, but are being seen by lots and lots of people as being the prime instigators of this whole thing.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 17th 2012, 14:52

This is nothing else but Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando slandering, throwing stones and hiding hands behind one's back.

The serious and unbelievable accusations against Richard Caruana Caruana, spilling over to other dignitaries, must be substantiated by viva voce evidence subject to cross examination or else they should be dismissed out of hand.

He needs to concentrate on defending himself against serial criminal libel accusations mounting against him.

Enough is enough!