Updated: JPO writes back to PN - points to claims by Joe Mizzi against RCC
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando had written back to the PN Executive after the Executive asked him to revise his previous letter on the list of witnesses for his case calling for the expulsion of Richard Cachia Caruana from the PN (see http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120713/local/jpo.428427 )
In his new letter to president Marthese Portelli, Dr Pullicino Orlando wrote:
"You will appreciate that it is difficult to compress the testimony of each witness into a few paragraphs. That was why I had suggested two sittings of the PN Executive Committee to begin with. I had imagined that the first sitting would deal with the accusations and the second would be reserved for the 'defence', so to speak.
Since you are insisting that I go into further detail via e-mail I will, however, do my best to comply.
I would like to start with Hon. Joe Mizzi's allegations. Hon. Mizzi has declared, publicly, that:
"Mr. Richard Cachia Caruana, via a high-ranking member of the 1996-1998 Labour administration, exerted pressure on Hon. Mizzi who was effectively the Minister of the Interior in those days to supply him with security officials for protection due to an assassination attempt on Mr. Cachia Caruana a few years earlier which was unrelated to his official position but was simply a case of personal vendetta.
"Mr. Cachia Caruana tried to exert, via a high-ranking member of the 1996-1998 Labour administration, pressure on Hon. Mizzi who was effectively the Minister of the Interior in those days to replace the head of the Security Services for personal reasons."
Dr Pullicino Orlando also claimed that Mr Mizzi has implicated Mr. Cachia Caruana in alleged interference with the course of justice in relation to a cocaine party organised by individuals who were close to Mr Cachia Caruana.
He enclosed a link to Mr Mizzi's declaration on television to substantiate his claims.
He said he would be amplifying on the testimony of his other witnesses in separate e-mails.
Mr Cachia Caruana is strongly denying Dr Pullicno Orlando's claims.
MIZZI: CLAIMS ARE NOT NEW
In a statement, Mr Mizzi said he would not intervene further into the PN's internal 'battles' .
He said however that the statements he had made and which Dr Pullicino Orlando had referred to were not new and he had made them on previous occasions in public and in parliament. He was not bringing up these issues for the first time because of the case for the dismissal of Mr Cachia Caruana from the PN.
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William Caligari
Jul 15th 2012, 10:33
Anglo Vassallo.
Veru li l-kandidat gdid tal-PN, Gejtu Vella,kif gie rrapportat il-lum
ghandhu konsulenza mal-Ministru tas-Sahha ta' E22,058 fis-sena?
Jekk veru tajba u tahraq Sur Ang!!!!.
George Azzopardi
Jul 15th 2012, 10:20
It is a pity that PN has come to this state where Gonzipn AND Austin Gatt's clique are reigning and controlling PN machine. It is obvoius that this sinking ship will go down to a deeper bottom if GonziPN clings on more. It is so very obvious that apart from these 3 people there are many others but none have the guts to speak openly about it especially since elections are so near.
PN hardliners are not see this and are currently confused into what the strategy should be. It is crystal clear now that GonziPN's latest comedy is to show a forceful hand trying to instill that their leader is still in control but of course he' ain't.
This strategy should have been taken earlier on and not now. Now it's too late!!
William Caligari
Jul 15th 2012, 09:56
Jien dejjem nghid li "l-boxer fl-arena tal-glieda, jaqla u jaghti"
Hadd m'ghandu jiskanta bil-botta u risposta!!!!
L-esidu ta' dan kollhu u nhar, it-Tlieta, waqt il-laqgha ta' ezukuttiv.
Ghalissa kulhadd jiehu pacenzja. Hudu xarba friska, aktar taghmel gid!!!!
mark borg
Jul 15th 2012, 06:49
Jeffrey, do not even bother to waste your time with the clique...true they got the power (for now)...but you could just bring them down to earth within seconds in parliament after the holidays...you could and are the only one with guts and brains that could do it ...forget about the other rebels...they are both fickle, like the rest of their gonzipn colleagues.
James Briffa
Jul 14th 2012, 21:41
Marthese, stick to your decision. JPO is now full of bluff. He should thank Joe Mizzi for saying what he said on TV as otherwise he would have had nothing to say. How come JPO comes out with all this information NOW? This must be a very strange coincidence or JPO has his own agenda to pay back RCC, and choose this particular time so as to “try and hit hard” I am sure time will tell. JPO you have lost the admiration people had in you some years back. I suggest you take a break and reflect on your political contribution then and now.
As for Franco, he also should just shut up. We had too much of him now. He himself choose to do what he did, abusing democracy as much as he could. Now very democratically he has been asked to step aside. In any case who will trust him? I never imagined a person could do so much wrong to HIS OWN colleague , so much as making him loose a job. Surely there was something else which Franco did not have the guts to mention.
Marthese you have the support of all true PN supporters.
pat muscat
Jul 14th 2012, 20:50
I think that the 'tejatru bla saqaf' first drama should be that of 'GonziPN the center cannot hold; but its business as usual'!
G Schembri
Jul 14th 2012, 20:28
Reading all this I get to wonder what is the real truth behind the attempt on RCCs life. Why did EFA act as investigator, judge and jury to the case? Why was the investigation kept so secret? Why was RCC given a large amount of money and Zeppi a generous Presidential pardon? I wonder who was being protected in this story was it the same people who were on the boat party mention above????
Mark Borg
Jul 14th 2012, 19:19
If it were not so bleeding hot this whole farse would have been quite entertaining. As things stand nothing could be more pathetic.
John Azzopoardi
Jul 14th 2012, 23:35
Agree. All, give it a rest. WE are all tired of this baby talk.
Jimmy Cutajar
Jul 14th 2012, 18:31
Is it collusion when one tries to speak to the person in charge, to protect him due to threats and attempt made on his life? Its called natural response to the situation one is in! .... So in this case, is JPO colluding with the LP since they will benefit greatly from this storm he himself has created?
Alex Cordina
Jul 14th 2012, 18:23
The more JPO talks, the more I see that he completely lost his plot and cannot substantiate his accusations, what an idiot sorry to say, wasting our country's time ....
robert pace
Jul 15th 2012, 06:52
We have a Pm who wasted at least 5years of the precious time, you are worried because JPO wasted a week?? God hypocrasy at its best...
Joseph Micallef
Jul 14th 2012, 18:14
Dr. Jeffrey Pullicino, if at the point, GonziPN's party did not dare to use you, abuse you, make fun of you and throw you away in the dustbin after being of crucial help in electing GonziPN into government, now use your power in parliament to do what is sensibly expected for this country. It's my genuine view.
m. borg (slm)
Jul 14th 2012, 16:43
Of course gonzipn/RCC apologists would se nothing wrong whith what happened but level minded people can see that RCC had something on his mind when he contacted ex-labour ministers.
Andy Farrugia
Jul 14th 2012, 18:24
You simply love conspiracy theories, don't you? If you can see so clearly, and it is a particularly bright hot day today, why don't you provide the information that you have to the competent authorities? Hilarious, infinitely.
m borg
Jul 14th 2012, 16:05
Soap Opera to be continued ...
Paul Caruana
Jul 14th 2012, 15:32
JPOS has no case. In whose interest is he doing all thi?. Surely not in the interest of thPN! Surely the PL has a lot to gain if the situation is prolonged. it is fair to ask if there has been any collusion between JPOS and the PL. Dr. Katrmenu Vella's satement points to such a possibility.
Pierre Vassallo
Jul 14th 2012, 15:17
Mr. Mizzi can you lease tell us whether you ordered an inquiry to establish why "the police went on the wrong boat"? Please don't tell us that you didn't have time, like your colleague Karmenu Vella did? stop this circus!!
Joseph E Briffa
Jul 14th 2012, 14:49
Incredible how the meaning of collusion is interpreted in the mind of some people! Requesting protection, especially in view of a previous attempt on one's life is, one would have thought, perfectly natural. Joe Mizzi was the Minister of the Interior at the time and so was the person to whom one would submit such a request. Was this collusion? Would it have made sense to address such a request to the nationalist shadow minister of the interior? By the same token, anyone who was in the nationalist camp in 1996-98 and submitted requests to any Labour minister should be accused of colluding with Labour. And would not this assertion be preposterous? . As for the allegation that RCC tried to have the Head of Security changed, this can hardly be called collusion, even if the allegation were true; indeed it is more like confrontation than collusion. Re JPO's claim that J Mizzi implicated RCC in alleged interference in the course of justice, one would be forgiven for asking why, if this claim has any truth, Minister Mizzi failed to take the necessary steps at the time. Indeed, if there is any truth in JPO's claim, it would follow that there was some sort of collusion between Labour and RCC rather than the other way round. I'm afraid that JPO has all but lost it. His behaviour isn't helping at all to improve his image. Seems that Alfred Sant had sized him up very well in 2008..
Andre Ellul
Jul 14th 2012, 14:25
This is ridiculous. What a mockery. JPO's frivolous attempts highlight his lack of integrity.
Charlene Fenech
Jul 14th 2012, 14:23
It is obvious that JPOS is inventing. Even his own witnesses are disagreeing with him.
Matthew Scerri
Jul 14th 2012, 14:22
JPO is a true comedian. First he cries, now he calls for help. Grow up.
Nicholas Ellul
Jul 14th 2012, 14:21
Its about time we all called it a day and write off JPO as the country and especially Dr. Gonzi has more important matters to see to rather than waste his valuable time with someone like JPO.Now that the party agreed not to accept these three......as candidates for the forthcoming elections,in my opinion the case is closed and lets move forward,this is all being done with bad faith from the MLP who is in collusion with whoever is putting spokes in the pn wheels.Nazzionalisti all this will make us stonger.
George Sciberras
Jul 14th 2012, 13:57
Now three of JPO's witnesses spoke and it's evident that there was no collusion by RCC with labour officials. For a minute I thought I was reading Don Quixote.
Michael Gatt
Jul 14th 2012, 13:52
We are all supporting you dont let this go without any final results
J Busuttil
Jul 14th 2012, 15:48
@ Michael Gatt
"All "you me PL as I have not met a individual with PN support who speaks in favour of JPO
Antonio Pace
Jul 14th 2012, 13:45
How exactly did Joe Mizzi confirm that RCC colluded wit high MLP officials? It's very evident why JPO is now avoiding to abide what he had agreed to with the Party. The PN gave him ample time and he failed to collaborate.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 14th 2012, 13:26
The more I read and read all that JPO is alluding and the way of answering and replying to e-mails to the PN Executive President, the more I realize that he must be in a conundrum and doesn’t know if he is coming or going!
One of JPO’s allegations is that RCC has been ‘colluding’ with MLP Ministers in 1996-98!
This is quite surprising and one begs the question who is really colluding with whom?
Is it perhaps JPO’s method acceptable to talk (not colluding, of course!) with Joseph Muscat, Karmenu Vella and Joe Mizzi but not RCC when talking (colluding) to his Ministers?
The deeper one digs the more difficult to get out!
JC.
Raymond Micallef
Jul 14th 2012, 12:53
Hasra li i-Teatru miftuh mhux lest. Din kienet tkun eccezjonali biex naghmlu debutt indimentikabbli!!!!
d. attard
Jul 14th 2012, 12:42
A political party that is willing to serve honestly its country will need to find a balance between internal organisaion and dedication to the National interest. In my opinion we have seen our present Government bother exclusively about its interests and has done all in its power to retain power above any other interest.
There is a lot to be said about this, the PN surely needs to be replaced even by my grandmother if necessary, so that it can recover its true values of identity and purpose. In My opinion, Dr Gonzi's legacy will be one of maciavellian shame, even if he had to deal with the super egos of a couple of guys on his side...
Joseph N. Attard
Jul 14th 2012, 12:40
This man has completely lost the plot. The more he speaks, the more he sinks into the mire.
J Busuttil
Jul 14th 2012, 12:10
Well done PN you all JPO's bluff. He had no evidence when he spoke to the Times and is just repeating what is being said in the media. Jeffrey do yourself a favour and call it a day. You have dug your political grave do not bury yourself.
J Busuttil
Jul 14th 2012, 12:57
Correction:
Well done PN for calling JPO's bluff.
G Mangion
Jul 14th 2012, 12:03
jeff issa qed tiprova taghmel aktar hsara, its over now belief it or Not You have so Rightly been fired by the P.N
Stop wasting yours and the Gov'ts time now you're History accepted !
G. Mangion.
Paul Micallef
Jul 14th 2012, 11:56
VENDETTA, and this is how it goes in my mind as i see it, JPO must have information that RCC told Alfred sant about the MISTRA scandal, PN supportes him all the way, and this is what you get. Alfred sant was right, well he always was right.
M Borg
Jul 14th 2012, 11:53
We are told the LP is providing protection ?? to JPO so what was so bad in RCC asking for protection ?
. I am sure his case was serious enough .
Alfred Cassar
Jul 14th 2012, 11:53
Jeff, now you , yourself have burnt, your political career, it is time, to let the country move away from frivolous issues, you may want to talk about.
A Dimech
Jul 14th 2012, 11:45
Prosit PN - keep it up. Your percentage rating is falling every day that passes by, with more crap thrown from one side to the other!!
George Cutajar
Jul 14th 2012, 11:42
The more JPOS speaks and writes the more he is being sucked into the storm he has created with all the collateral damage possible for Labour.
The moment Joe Mizzi was mentioned as a witness in this farce I immediately realised that the allegation would centre around the manner in which the Sant administration ordered the removal of RCC's police escort. As a matter of fact the escort was removed only to be re-instated after the intervention of the Ombudsman. If that was collusion than meaning of words is fast changing.
The allegations about the attempted removal of the Head of the Secret Service and the cocaine party on a boat are breaking news on the same lines of the Air Malta allegations.
Joe Mizzi is known as being one of the most fearless and outspoken members of parliament on the Labour side and hence I find it particularly strange that these two veyr serious allegations ( had they been true) are only seeing the light of day in 2012 when they occurred before September 1998.
Why is Joe Mizzi making these allegations now and did not use them in the 1998 Election campaign, or in the EU referendum campaign or during the election which followed shortly after? Furthermore does Joe Mizzi realise that his statement in connection with the alleged cocaine party directly implies a dereliction of duty on his part as it is clear that no action was taken against the alleged interference by RCC?
I honestly feel that the time has come for JPOS not only to be delisted as has thankfully happened but the PN should seriously consider expelling him outright from the party as it is now becoming clearer than ever that he is the one colluding with the opposition to foment problems with the Nationalist Party.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 14th 2012, 11:33
According to Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando's twisted logic a request by Richard Cachia Caruana, to MLP notables that he be given police protection following threats to his safety is tantamount to disloyal colluding with the MLP against the Nationalist Party! Absolutely unbelievable.
Quem deus perdere vult prius dementat (Tr: Those whom god wants to destroy, are first turned crazy).
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 14th 2012, 15:10
Your use of Latin may impress some people but your reading capabilities are very lacking. Did you miss out the nest para in the article above where it says that RCC asked for the head of security to be changed for personal reasons? Sorry I have no Latin quote to shoot back at you.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 14th 2012, 21:24
@ Andrew Camilleri.
I missed out nothing.
My "reading capabilities" are such `that I find no difficulty in understanding that protection from the threats of GBH or murder is USUALLY asked for personal reasons (i.e. personal safety).
I make allowance for any difficulty you may have in understanding Latin by providing a translation into simple English. It would appear that you also need further translations from English to Maltese with no guarantee that you will become any wiser.
Emanuel. Vella.
Jul 14th 2012, 11:27
ag and Co,beat democracy @ pn,
and keep leading,running the
nationalist party.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 14th 2012, 11:26
JPO has no chance whatsoever of GonziPN's Executive giving credence to any testimony which he provides, since his accusation against RCC is also considered to be an indirect accusation on Lawrence Gonzi, Eddie Fenech Adami and GonziPN since RCC has been,for at least 21 years, THEIR MASTERMIND !
George Cutajar
Jul 14th 2012, 12:12
@ Eddy I am sure you wished you had one like RCC on your side during your anti-EU campaign perhaps you would have avoided the drubbing you received!!!!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 14th 2012, 12:34
@ Eddy Privitera
JPO has no chance whatsoever because truth will out and is coming out overwhelmingly. Your "support" actually damns him atill more.
Etienne Bonanno
Jul 14th 2012, 11:18
Jeffrey, we've had enough of kangaroo courts. You've had your pound of flesh. Go crawl back into your hole now.
Vincent Magro
Jul 14th 2012, 11:11
Li ma qalilniex Joe Mizzi hu jekk hu kienx waqa ghall-pressjoni li saret fuqu, u min kien ha r-responsabblita li l-pulizija kienu marru jfittxu fuq il-yacht zbaljat
anthony sultana
Jul 14th 2012, 10:53
Thanks to JPO for doing me a big favor,with the divorce.We want total freedom in the parlament, every MP
have the right to express himself without difficulty.
E. Vassallo
Jul 14th 2012, 10:53
U ejja JPo...int bis-serjeta??????????????????????????????????Collusion f'mohhok ghandek!!!!
E. Vassallo
Jul 14th 2012, 10:52
U ejja JPo...int bis-serjeta??????????????????????????????????Collusion f'mohhok ghandek!!!!
Emanuel. Vella.
Jul 14th 2012, 11:40
mela il-priministru and Co,x'ghandhom jghid ?.
Oliver Grech
Jul 14th 2012, 10:48
JPO given that you are sending a copy of your letters to the press, why don't you do so aswell of any correspondence that you might have dated 2008. To find them its very easy. Just press Mistra and click forwawrd on any emails you have.
Carmel Grima
Jul 14th 2012, 10:48
kemm niehu pjacir nisma kif qed tohrog il-verita' fuq persuni li suppost li jafu iktar kif igibu ruhhom.
Mario Zammit
Jul 14th 2012, 10:46
Possibbli li l-partit ghandu daqshekk hin x'jitlef??
Joe Scerri
Jul 14th 2012, 10:23
What a waste of time.
Emanuel. Vella.
Jul 14th 2012, 12:10
'what a waste of time' ghal pajjizna.
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