Update 2: JPO publishes list of witnesses
PN says it has not received MP's letter
Richard Cachia Caruana
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando has published a letter to PN president Marthese Portelli in which he lists witnesses he wishes to be heard to back his claims that Richard Cachia Caruana 'colluded' with Labour officials between 1996 and 1998.
The witnesses are: Police Commissioner John Rizzo, EU Commissioner John Dalli, PL whip Joe Mizzi, PL MP Karmenu Vella and Gordon Pisani, the Head of Communications at the OPM.
Mr Cachia Caruana is denying the claims. The PN Executive is due to meet tomorrow.
Following is Dr Pullicino Orlando's letter:
"Dear Dr. Portelli,
Please find, below, the list of witnesses who will corroborate the points I raised with regards to Mr. Richard Cachia Caruana last week. As discussed, I believe that Mr. Cachia Caruana should be expelled from the Nationalist Party on the following grounds:
1. Colluding with high ranking members of the Labour administration led by Dr. Alfred Sant between 1996 and 1998 in an attempt at furthering his personal interests whilst putting his colleagues in the Nationalist administration led by Dr. Eddie Fenech Adami between 1987 and 1996 in a bad light.
2. Colluding with high ranking officials representing foreign states in a clear attempt at bypassing the Nationalist Party parliamentary group and the Maltese Parliament.
3. Fomenting the unrest which has led to the difficulties being faced by our leader, Dr. Lawrence Gonzi, both within our party and in Parliament.
Even though you informed me this morning that the Administrative Council of our party has given me till Friday to present the list of witnesses, I felt that I should do so today, as previously agreed. I outlined the reasons for doing so during the meeting we had yesterday evening at our headquarters, together with Dr. Paul Borg Olivier and Dr. Tonio Borg.
It is only fair that the list be sent immediately to Mr. Cachia Caruana, as agreed. Mr. Cachia Caruana will obviously be forwarding it to his ‘portavoce’, Mrs. Daphne Caruana Galizia, so I thought it only fair to forward a copy of this letter to real journalists as well.
I will demonstrate that Mr. Cachia Caruana has other contacts in the Labour Party during my presentation to the Executive Committee, as agreed yesterday, on the 17th. It is somewhat surprising that Mr. Cachia Caruana was careless enough to reveal this fact during an interview he gave to the Sunday Times on June 24th. In this interview he mentions his ‘Labour Party contacts’. He admits that these ‘Labour Party contacts’ are providing him with confidential information. I am sure his ‘Labour Party contacts’ would not do so without expecting something in return. His reference to these ‘Labour Party contacts’ is, in itself, an admission of collusion with high-ranking members of the Labour Party. On this particular occasion he was, however, obviously trying to mislead the readers of the Sunday Times. No one was expecting me to vote the way I did on the 18th June, including Mr. Cachia Caruana.
The list of witnesses who will corroborate what I said with regards to Mr. Cachia Caruana are as follows:
1. John Rizzo, Commissioner of Police
2. John Dalli, EU Commissioner
3. Joe Mizzi, Labour Party Parliamentary Group whip
4. Karmenu Vella, Shadow Minister for Finance
5. Gordon Pisani, Head of Communications, OPM
Whilst hoping that this message finds you well, I look forward to seeing you tomorrow at the PN Executive Committee meeting, as scheduled.
Kind regards,
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando M.P. (P.N.)
Dr Pullicino Orlando had voted with the Opposition in a motion which led to Mr Cachia Caruana's resignation from ambassador to the EU. His action was subsequently condemned by the PN Executive.
PN SAYS LETTER NOT RECEIVED
The Nationalist Party in a statement at 8.30 pm. said that while Dr Pullicino Orlando had sent his letter to the media, it had not yet been received by PN Executive president Marthese Portelli.
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Alex Ellul
Jul 12th 2012, 13:22
It cuts both ways. If RCC colluded with the MPL then the MPL colluded with RCC. It takes two to tango.
JPO has lost it. The pregnant mountain gave birth to the proverbial mouse
Eddy Privitera
Jul 12th 2012, 10:12
Joseph Aquilina: Commissioner John Dalli said that he is ready to testify if he is called to testify ! As to RCC and Gordon Pisani, did you expect them to admit anything said by JPO ??? As to the PL witnesses, both are ready to state what they know by affidavit !
J. Borg
Jul 12th 2012, 08:22
What a waste of time and tax payers' money. If this is let on to drag any further, then PM Gonzi is explicitly allowing taxpayers' money to be wasted.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 12th 2012, 09:06
Don't blame Gonzi or PN for a mess fueled up (now more clear then ever) by PL!! We now know who brought parliament in disrepute ...
P BORG
Jul 12th 2012, 07:21
Visto what Dr. Muscat had alleged on Dissett last weekend I would have expected that he should have been a “STAR-witness”
As for Karmenu Vella’s credibility … I’ m might be wrong, and please someone correct me if I am, but is this the same person who, together with another (former) MLP deputy who, way back in the 80’s, was involved the notorious case where he was caught red-handed in Ghadira Bay and came out with a lame explanation?
GRACE PAVIA
Jul 12th 2012, 07:53
Caught doing what exactly?
P BORG
Jul 12th 2012, 08:57
@ GRACE PAVIA
Just google: Karmenu Vella Ghadira.
You might find a lot of information.
Everyone is FREE to draw his own conclusions.
Noel Damato
Jul 12th 2012, 05:26
Il- Prim Ministru GonziPN kien qalillna li kien kapitlu maghluq. Issa nistaqsi liema kapitlu infetah?
Ara veru waqajna fir redikolu ta klikka li ma tridc titlaq min mal poter akkost ta kollox basta tibqgha timla butha.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 12th 2012, 04:16
Ridiculous showmanship and playing to the gallery. A letter from JPO to the PN Executive president copied and delivered to the press before it is received by the recipient to whom the list is address.
Alfred Cassar
Jul 12th 2012, 01:55
What exactly is Paul Borg Olivier doing? He is suppose to know that in the Executive, no judgement should be passed?
Ray Pisani
Jul 12th 2012, 01:17
Go for it Jeffrey !
Ray Pisani
John Azzopoardi
Jul 11th 2012, 23:42
So Dr. Alfred Sant was a gentlement after all. I think the maltese and gozitans may have misjudged Mr. Sant after all. And he would definitely have been a better leader than Joseph Muscat.
M Calleja
Jul 11th 2012, 21:22
For me it is obvious that JPO's interest now is to see LP in Government and is doing his best to inflict maximum damage to the PN in collusion with elements from within the PL..
Joseph J. Camilleri Mifsud
Jul 11th 2012, 21:02
Some employees at The Malta Council for Science and Technology have said around that Dr. Pullicino Orlando and the Labour Party have agreed that if PL is elected in government, Dr. Pullicino Orlando would still retain his post as Chairman there.
Could Dr. Pullicino Orlando and/or PL confirm or deny this?
This is an allegation of collusion with Labour officials that the Nationalist Party should look into and investigate.
For if this turns out to be true, then the kettle is calling the teapot black!
Alexander Brincat
Jul 11th 2012, 21:00
"PN SAYS LETTER NOT RECEIVED
The Nationalist Party in a statement at 8.30 pm. said that while Dr Pullicino Orlando had sent his letter to the media, it had not yet been received by PN Executive president Marthese Portelli."
This only means one thing. Basicall PN is telling JPO thank you very much...we do not need you any more.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 11th 2012, 20:58
JPO from a list of 5 you have already lost 3! Are you by any chance writing your resignation letter!
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 11th 2012, 20:41
The list of names published by JPO just proves what an utter joke of a person he is. From TVM News we already know that (1) Rizzo does not want to be involved, (2) John Dalli said he needs to know more about the case, (3) Gordon Pisani denied the allegations of JPO. What is left are to MLP die hard!!!
And mind you; three drop outs from a list of five names after JPO said witnesses ready to testify against Cachia Caruana!!
With only two MLP die-hards ready to testify, I wonder who is “really” colluding with who...
Lawrence Fenech
Jul 11th 2012, 21:52
@Aquilina.
You seem to temporarily forget that these are covered by an "affi davit".
John Azzopoardi
Jul 11th 2012, 23:26
But he named names and the fact is that there is some truth to what he is saying. What a shame and a scandal. And I am sad to say that the PN has finally managed to self destruct. Sad indeed for such a strong party that it used to be.
Peppi Borg
Jul 11th 2012, 20:41
JPO called RCC's bluff. Now what does PBO has to say? Going down the list there is no dispute about the credibility of Karmenu Vella and John Dalli.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 11th 2012, 21:20
peppi you must be joking ... from a list of 5 names 3 have already said they do not know what JPO is talking about. What remains are two labour die-hards, and the story of one of them (available on times of malta a few minutes after JPO published his list, wonder how?) has already been denied with proves ... all that is left is 1 witness!! and ofcourse JPO fantasy world of dreams!!
S. Vella
Jul 11th 2012, 21:33
In fact there is no dispute - both are NOT credible. One was a minister during the Mintoff/KMB dark ages and the other has the nerve to complain that he is a 'prisoner in Brussels'.
A Dimech
Jul 11th 2012, 20:35
I don't know what the facts are around these accusatons , but what I know is that PN has become a Hornet's nest!!
Oliver Grech
Jul 11th 2012, 20:34
JPO, how come you didn't include in your list the other 10 members of parliament that want to eliminate RCC? Or maybe there are none other than your sole self?
Gianninu Saliba
Jul 11th 2012, 20:14
Are we supposed to believe that John Dalli knew about the colluding and kept his mouth shut for all these years? It will be a shame on John Dalli if he was to say that he knew and did nothing about it.
Maria Vassallo
Jul 11th 2012, 20:13
Jiena kont qed nistenna li JPO se jgib bhala xhieda lil:
Dr. Alfred Sant;
Dr. George Abela;
Dr. George Vella;
Dr. Michael Falzon;
u ohrajn.
U hallina JPO,?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 11th 2012, 19:44
@ JPO and his supporters.
Having contacts with the Labour Party and receiving leaked confidential information passed to him by contacts within the Labour Party is NOT COLLUDING with the Labour Party to further his personal interests.
JPO's guesswork that RCC would not accept that LP inside information unless he "expected something in return" is unbelievable. Much more reasonable is the suspicion that it was RCC's informants inside the MLP who were expecting something in return for leaking sensitive information to him. JPO should not measure everybody else in both the NP and the MLP with his own defective scale ( ma ghandux iqis lil haddiehor b'xibru)
Wally Vella-Zarb
Jul 11th 2012, 21:52
"JPO should not measure everybody else in both the NP and the MLP with his own defective scale ( ma ghandux iqis lil haddiehor b'xibru)"
It's what you do all the time! ;-)
George Galea
Jul 12th 2012, 09:28
You seem to be turning a NEGATIVE issue against RCC into a POSITIVE one. That is a lawyers job and presumably you will be defending RCC at the executive meeting accordingly. But surely you will loose this case if it is dealt with genuinely. Wait and see!!!!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 12th 2012, 11:22
@ Wally Vella-Zarb yesterday at 21:52.
Stop flinging cliches about aimlessly and prove that I am measuring anybody all the time. I would like to dialogue intelligently but I only get brash irrelevant cliches from you.
m. borg (slm)
Jul 11th 2012, 19:33
I guess there are acouple of MPs who are wringing their hands in glee cause if this case does damns RCC then gonzi will go down with him and the race for leader starts.
m. borg (slm)
Jul 11th 2012, 19:31
With regards Mizzi and Vella any collusion that they had with RCC and did not harm the party is no problem.
If this collusion does in fact harms the gonzipn/pn then extra points to the two.
N Azzopardi
Jul 11th 2012, 19:19
If I'm not mistaken, JPO mentioned 10 members of Parlament if not more, wanted to vote against RCC. Now the list came to 5 with 3 non Parlament members. Come on, stop this BLUFF
Jason Gauci
Jul 11th 2012, 19:40
you are mistaken !!!
This is another issue on Rcc claiming that Richard Cachia Caruana 'colluded' with Labour officials between 1996 and 1998. And this will be held infront of The PN Executive and not in Parliament.
F. Scicluna
Jul 11th 2012, 19:57
qed thawwad he never said that the other 10 mp's are his witness
joe aquilina
Jul 12th 2012, 03:35
imma meta sema 10 mp li xtaqu jivutaw kontra imma bezaw din haga ohra habib hehe iz zejt beda tila f wicc l ilma
M Calleja
Jul 11th 2012, 19:19
JPO int bis-serjeta tista' takkuza lil haddiehor fil-PN li ''intghogob'' mal-PL? Inti mhux biss intghogobt, imma dhalt fis-sodda mal-PL ghal darba, dartbtejn!
j brincat
Jul 11th 2012, 19:09
@Joseph Cauchi Senior
"Are the MLP members, Joe Mizzi and Karmenu Vella involved in this collusion?
This is a very serious accusation!"
Remember that it has YET to be proved that they had in fact colluded!
So you are jumping to conclusions!
(jb)
Vince Deguara
Jul 11th 2012, 19:31
no... he knows that 3 of the listed witnesses have nothing to witness against RCC, hence he added another two that somehow have. Don't forget that there were around 9 other people ready to witness against RCC from within the cabinet. None of these seem to have been listed...
bluff bluff bluff
the only mistake the PN did in all this farce was sticking to JPO 5 years ago...
Henry S Pace
Jul 11th 2012, 19:02
@ Eddy Privitera
What a pity that you were not called as a witness.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 11th 2012, 19:20
henry S. Pace: And you sitting in judgement on the Executive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 11th 2012, 19:01
So, JPO is presenting all these witnesses to substantiate his claim that MLP officials colluded with RCC between 1996-1998!
Are the MLP members, Joe Mizzi and Karmenu Vella involved in this collusion?
This is a very serious accusation!
JC.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 11th 2012, 18:54
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO BELIEVES THAT THE GONZIPN EXECUTIVE ARE GOING TO BELIEVE ANYTHING SAID BY JPO'S WITNESSES WHICH PUTS RCC IN A BAD LIGHT ?
James Borg
Jul 11th 2012, 19:11
But Eddy, the trouble is, someone from the PL is leaking PL confidential information on surely next election tactics and strategy.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 11th 2012, 19:13
Eddy "gladly-taken-for-a-ride" Privitera, who do you suggest they should believe?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 11th 2012, 19:17
Wonders never cease!
Eddy Privitera has advance knowledge of what JPO's witnesses are going to testify and that the NP Executive would find it incredible.
Most reasonable people who are not part of the plot would prudently wait to hear what these witnesses had to say first before deciding whether it was credible or not.
Not Eddy Privitera.
John Borg
Jul 11th 2012, 19:17
Nobdy will believe anything JPO says anymore, except some labour wannabies who are desperate for power and are relishing every moment because they think JPO can hand them over power on a silver plate.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 11th 2012, 19:23
Joe Micallef: The Executive will only believe RCC, not even John Dalli. Because RCC is the SUPER-MNISTER in GonziPN's cabinet !
George Cutajar
Jul 11th 2012, 20:18
Was not RCC the man who led Malta's campaign to join the EU and thereby pushing your CNI into oblivion?
Eddy Privitera
Jul 11th 2012, 20:22
Francis Saliba M.D. Malajr se naqtaghlek il-kurzita dwar dak li ghadu kif stqarr il-perit Karmenu Vella fl-ahbarijiet ta' One News.
II-perit Vella qal li meta hu kien sar ministru tat-Turizmu fin- 1996, kien mar ikellmu RCC. Dan qallu li hu (RCC)kien kontra d-decizzjoni tal-Bord tal-air Malta dwar ix-xiri tal-ajruplani RJ70s li tant ikkawzaw hsara enormi finanzjarja lil-Air Malta. meta Karmenu Venlla staqsa lil RCC kienx ghamel din l-oppozizzjoni tieghu fil-Bord, RCC kien wiegeb li m'ghamilhiex ! Skond K.Vella hu dehrlu li RCC ried jitfa t-tort fuq id-Diretturi l-ohra tal-Air Malta.Sa hemm kien involut Karmenu Vella.li qal li se jghamel dan bil-miktub f'affidavit !
Issa nistenna li l-Ezekuttiv ma jghatix kaz ta' dak li qal u se jikteb f'affidavit Karmenu Vella, bl-iskuza li ma jkunx mar jghati x-xhieda tieghu quddiem l-Ezekuttiv u d-deputati ta' GonziPN !
Philip Hili
Jul 12th 2012, 00:36
@ Eddie Privitera
"II-perit Vella qal li meta hu kien sar ministru tat-Turizmu fin- 1996, kien mar ikellmu RCC. Dan qallu li hu (RCC)kien kontra d-decizzjoni tal-Bord tal-air Malta dwar ix-xiri tal-ajruplani RJ70s li tant ikkawzaw hsara enormi finanzjarja lil-Air Malta." Dan xi ktibt int.
Allura, l-onor. Karmenu Vella, li tant ihobb lil RCC, KIF QATT MA TKELLEM TUL DAN IZ-ZMIEN KOLLU? Ma naghmlux moghod li nesa dan kollu hu, bhal ma nesa meta dahal l-Ghadira bil-jott "Lady Jo" li ried jiddikjara dak li kellu fuq il-jott???
U hallina Karm.
Oliver Grech
Jul 11th 2012, 18:54
So you want us to believe that you didn't collude with labour on your famous vendicative vote? U hallini JPO.
John Borg
Jul 11th 2012, 18:49
JPO accusing RCC of "Fomenting the unrest which has led to the difficulties being faced by our leader, Dr. Lawrence Gonzi, both within our party and in Parliament." ? how foolish we were to believe him when he shed those crocodile tears over the Mistra case.
David Caruana
Jul 12th 2012, 07:53
Actually, those crocodile tears were planned by your beloved RCC and JPO was a mere puppet in the whole saga.
If it wasn't for JPO, the PN would be on the opposition benches.
John Attard
Jul 11th 2012, 18:49
Richard just do the honourable thing and resign once again. And Dr. Gonzi - whilst we're at it - please call an election. The party is in shambles.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 11th 2012, 19:02
So you are suggesting that RCC cannot defend himself! Interesting stuff - 70's & 80' on the doorstep
cesco di luigi
Jul 11th 2012, 18:49
I do not trust any board, committee or whatever that is run by the PN> It will be a white-wash. you wait and see.
John Borg
Jul 11th 2012, 18:44
By JPO's own reasoning, JPO himself should be kicked out of the party. If RCC is guilty of having had labour party contacts, what is JPO then? He voted with the opposition, admitted he voted with the opposition because he gave his word at a party thrown for labourites by a magistrate? give this man more rope to hang himself!
Darren Vassallo
Jul 11th 2012, 18:43
the list is very intresting!!
Alfred Farrugia
Jul 11th 2012, 18:18
How can the PN Executive Council act as a judge and jury? What happened to the rules of natural justice? How many members of the Executive Council have at least read the principles of Administrative law? Given the number of lawyers within the Party, is it possible that some of them need to re-visit O. Hood Phillips’ work “Constitutional and Administrative Law”?
Joe Vella
Jul 11th 2012, 19:12
alfred Farrugia, one can choose to be tried by a Judge only, or by Jury. It is the choose of the accused and not the accuser.
Joseph Bugeja
Jul 11th 2012, 17:48
What's wrong with sworn statements? They can't feel intimidated by a large hostile crowd perhaps?
Mr Joseph Apap
Jul 11th 2012, 19:02
Who are the large hostile crowd?
Surely the whole executive committee will not form a crowd and a hostile one?
All the persons mentioned to appear as witnesses are used to appear before committees, courts, crowds etc
Ronnie Callus
Jul 11th 2012, 17:40
Wait a bit more !! because they be given in the last minute like he voted so that no chance of any interference is given. We wait and see.
Jo Meli
Jul 11th 2012, 17:32
Jeffrey should make these Affidavits PUBLIC and the matter proceeds from there.
Otherwise all evidence will be put under the Gonzipn carpet.
PERIOD !!!
Joe Vella
Jul 11th 2012, 18:55
Jo Meli, can you explain how the evidence will be put under the Gonzi carpet if it is given in person?
william cauchi
Jul 11th 2012, 17:30
And do you think that anybody from the PL is going before a PN secretariat to be grilled????
Why???
To solve a problem festering within the PN??
After all, the PN secretariat has no jurisdiction and at the end it decides what pleases the party. And does anybody expect somebody from the PL would come forward to be part of this.
How stupid do you think people are.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 11th 2012, 17:06
Did not JPO say personally that he will be presenting a list of persons who will be testifying in the RCC case, by today?
So, why are some ‘commenters’ trying to defend JPO if he does not keep to his own promise (i.e. the presentation of the LIST)?
He still has till midnight to present the list; and then we shall see what to call JPO!
If JPO is truly claiming what he is claiming, then he must bring all the evidence to substantiate his claims - that RCC colluded with high ranking MLP officials in 1996-1998 -.
L’ora della veritaˋ eˋ vicina!
JC.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 11th 2012, 17:02
To all PL supporters who are trying to defend JPO because like that they feel they are doing some favour to their political party; JPO selected the place, JPO selected the time, and JPO selected the witnesses!! Most probably he will bring the list in the very last moment ... or invent some excuse for not having a list at all .. maybe in the lines "they where scared", etc etc etc ... all is fair for JPO who has started playing the back stabber game from day 1 of this government!!
GL Calleja
Jul 11th 2012, 17:01
This is all politics which not too many of us can understand. What list and when is it coming? really? " Hoss fl-ilma." I wish these politicians finish whatever agenda they are pursuing and start caring about the citizen instead. What they are after is personal agendas and personal vendettas and in the meantime the whole parliament is neglecting the citizen, who elected them and who they are supposed to protect. Have a nice vacation Parliament because none of us second class citizens are. How pathetic!
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 11th 2012, 17:41
and who is at fault? who brought this whole charade?? and who is the supporting actor??
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jul 11th 2012, 16:59
The TOM had quoted JPO as saying:
“I’m not a fool. I’ve been through quite a bit in my political career. I’d never speak out without checking my facts or make my assertions without being absolutely certain the people who gave me the information are prepared to appear before the executive committee.”
It seems that JPO has been let down by the people who gave him the information and assurances. Not that one would expect otherwise for politics is not a game of kiss and tell . This especially in situations where if members of the opposite camp attest to JPO's assertions it would reflect badly on their political naivete in having being outfoxed by RCC..
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 11th 2012, 17:40
JPO is a mediocre showman, he might be waiting for the right moment ... or else inventing the next excuse ... like "I do not blame them for not wanting to come after what I passed these last few weeks" ... a tear might come out as well!!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 11th 2012, 17:43
The people who "let (JPO) down" come from the same political party that welcomed him with open arms to destroy Richard Cachia Caruana and who during the Mistra scandal accused him of being morally and politically corrupt.
Nothing better is to be expected when "thieves fall out".
Edward Mallia
Jul 11th 2012, 19:30
No one has ever suggested that JPO is a fool. But for him to say that he never speaks without checking his facts makes him out to be a monumental liar. Did he check "his facts" before that display of crocodile tears just prior to the 2008 election? Those of us who "checked his facts" had no difficulty in concluding that he was lying through his teeth. The supreme irony in all this is that those who encouraged JPO, provided with press cards, those who coached him etc. are now the targets for his poisonous bombast, while those who then vilified him have had no scruples in using his vote in parliament to get at their "mortal enemy". The sorriest aspect about all this is that among our politicians at least no one, but no one has come out of this matter with a shred of common or garden self-respect.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 11th 2012, 16:55
If Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando never had any witnesses who were willing to testify viva voce and to be cross examined, then he should never have made his accusation especially with his proven lack of credibility amply demonstrated during Mistragate.
Lists of persons and affidavits without the possibility of cross examining the witness are absolutely useless in view of the seriousness of his allegations amounting to character assassination. Any intelligent person would deduce that he was bluffing.
F. Scicluna
Jul 11th 2012, 17:34
this is not a court of law , they are not athorised to ask for witnesses , if they think they have an obligation they do internat investigation. Why not asking for an affidavits, but the common sense is that no PL official is going to PN Pieta HQ. Cikk let them get deep ......................
M Grima
Jul 11th 2012, 17:47
Even the Courts of Law accepts affidavits without the possibility of cross examination. I cannot perceive why a 'kangaroo court' in the form of the PN executive has to function otherwise. And it is wiser not to start counting the chickens Dr. Saliba where it concerns witnesses who can be named by JPOS? At the last minute something sinister might crop up similar to what happened in parliament when both JPOS and Mugliett did not tow the party line and RCC was well and truly kicked out.
Joseph Bugeja
Jul 11th 2012, 17:51
It's a pity I think you didn't mentioned Mistra Gate before the last election. Oh yes I forgot. You were taken in then and only got to know the truth later.
Please show us some respect.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 11th 2012, 18:16
@ M Grima today at 17:47.
This is not a case of the courts accepting affidavits. It is a ridiculous case of first boasting that JPO says that he has witnesses and then it turns out that these witnesses are disembodied creatures (if that) who do not want to appear in carne ed ossa to be cross examined.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 11th 2012, 19:00
Francis Saliba: Tista timmagina lil dawn in-nies li dahku b'tant eluf ta' nies anki b'ittri iffiramti mill-prim miinistru, jista xi hadd jemmen li se jaghmlu l-affarijiet u jiddeciedu b'gustizzja ????
F. Scicluna
Jul 11th 2012, 16:24
Inthom tahsbu li xi ufficjal tal PL se jmur jixhed quddiem l-inkwizitur ta GONZIPN?
din mhux qorti, ma hemm l-ebda obligu
imma jekk GONZIPN mhux se jinvestiga mela allura vera hemm il hmieg.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 11th 2012, 17:34
@ F Scicluna, today at 16:24
Bit-track record ta' Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando l-ebda bniedem f'sensieh mhu ser ikun daqshekk iblah li jirriskja ghonqu u li jitlef giehu ghal karattru bhal dak, la quddiem qrati u anqas quddiem xi nkwizitur. In-Nazzjonalisti, u wisq aktar il-Laburista li xlew lil JPO bl-abbuz tal-Mistra jafuh dan, u ma humiex boloh u ma jiccappsux b'dak il-hmieg.
Austin grech
Jul 11th 2012, 16:24
if not a sworn statement who would testify in person. good trick PN.
victor caruana
Jul 11th 2012, 16:21
The PN executive is no court...it has no right to aks for sworn evidence.....only sworn statements by appropriate officers can be submitted....why the worry to have sworn statements....the truth will prevail like someone once said but did not believ in it.
Andy Farrugia
Jul 11th 2012, 16:24
In fact, they did not ask for sworn statements ......but it appears as if you missed this.
Mr Hans Borg
Jul 11th 2012, 16:19
"This followed a decision that witnesses had to testify personally and not through sworn statements."
Typical GonziPN style.....Their way or no way.
Andy Farrugia
Jul 11th 2012, 16:12
According to JPO newspeak, this is called "strategic retreat": hilarious, endlessly!
Maria Spiteri
Jul 11th 2012, 16:04
BLUFF!!!
George Azzopardi
Jul 11th 2012, 16:39
speaking too soon .. I guess!!
F. Scicluna
Jul 11th 2012, 17:35
ask GonziPN for a new vote of confidance. Summer Holiday till 1 October, who is afraid of the wolf?
Richard Caruana
Jul 11th 2012, 16:00
JPO(S), Nothing but bluff.
Please choose the reason of your report below: