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Sunday, July 8, 2012, 11:35

Updated: PN to take 'important' decisions on Thursday - Gonzi

Important decisions will be taken during the Nationalist Party’s executive committee meeting on Thursday, when the values of democracy will be exercised, Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi said this morning.

Speaking during an interview on Radio 101, recorded last Friday, Dr Gonzi said that everyone had to shoulder responsibility for his actions.

He said that the votes taken in Parliament in the past weeks were different to that on the introduction of divorce, when Nationalist MPs had been given a free vote.

No free vote had been given in the recent votes but there still were MPs who voted with the Labour Party.

(Franco Debono voted in favour of a PL motion of no confidence in Home Affairs Minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici, Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando in favour of a PL motion calling for the resignation of Ambassador Richard Cachia Caruana. Jesmond Mugliette abstained in the latter.)

Dr Gonzi insisted that every politician should be accountable and there to serve the people and not his personal agenda.

Dr Gonzi blamed the Labour leader and his party for the racist comments which, he said, had started to re-emerge in the past weeks.

This was happening, he said, because Dr Muscat had created a climate which went against the hospitality value the Maltese boasted so much about, including that the Maltese government should do as Italy was doing leave boats full of people to sink in the middle of the Mediterranean.

Dr Gonzi spoke about the immigrants taken into Malta last Thursday and said assistance had been offered by the AFM but it was refused by the immigrants who wanted to continue on their way.

The AFM followed the dinghy to provide assistance, should this be required.

It so happened that the dinghy started taking in water some time later and it was only through the AFM’s intervention that the irregular migrants who were on it did not drown.

Those who did not act populist, did not have a problem taking such decisions, Dr Gonzi said.

He insisted that it was possible for one to stand by his values and at the same time safeguard the interests of the country. This was what his government always did, putting pressure on the European Union and on other countries for the illegal migration problem to be shared.

He noted that 1,000 refugees from Malta had been taken by the United States and Malta was to continue putting pressure on the EU for more countries to take refuges from Malta.

Another instance where Muscat chose to be populist, Dr Gonzi said, was when instead of admitting that the price of oil had increased all over the world, he blamed the increase on the government.

He had also been populist when he joined the General Workers’ Union in its protests against the privatisation of the shipyard even though this had been the best decision for Malta .

Dr Gonzi said that in spite of the impression Dr Muscat tried to give that the Labour Party had changed, it was again adopting tactics of the past.

One such instance was when it presented a number of applications in court in an attempt to strike a number of individuals off the electoral register.

On the other hand, the Nationalist Party always worked to encourage and ensure that those who had a right to vote exercised this right. It also made it easy for people in hospitals and in homes for the elderly to vote without having to travel and for people who were abroad on election-day to vote before voting day.

Dr Gonzi also spoke on job creation and noted that Eurostat statistics had once again confirmed that while unemployment in Europe was in the increase, employment was being created in Malta.

He said that in the past years, the government had created 20,000 new jobs and the gainfully occupied had increased by 3,000.

He thanked entrepreneurs and small businesses who had created these jobs through the assistance of government schemes and noted that more than 20,000 young people graduated from University and Mcast in the past four years.

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Anthony Scicluna

Jul 9th 2012, 21:59

Oh JB the roots of MLP are there for all to see. And since history repeat itself, it is even more scary because of the shockingly violent and undemocratic times under the regimes of Mintoff and KMB

Eddy Privitera

Jul 10th 2012, 09:18

Anthony Scicluna: When you mention " the shockingly violent and undemocratic times under the regimes of Mintoff and KMB ", you unwillingly admitted that under the Labour government of Dr. Alfred Sant, the Maltese people enjoyed the most democratic and peaceful times our country had ever seen !!!

Of course, Dr. Alfred Sant had the hardest of times when Dom MIntoff decided not to allow Dr. Sant to carry on unless he bows down to his wishes. But being the most democratic leader we had had up till then, Dr. Sant decided to go for an election even though party opinion polls told him that he would lose the election. Still, Dr. Sant and Labour put the interest of the people and the country before their own interest - something which Lawrence Gonzi and his clique refuse to do, as they want to keep clinging to power at all costs !!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony Scicluna

Jul 10th 2012, 11:26

Eddy Privitera
I did not admit to Dr Sant being "the most" democratic or peaceful government in recent history. I agree that Dr Sant's two year stint in government was non-violent and democratic. To say that it wasn't would be lying; I have no fear admitting the truth. One admirable thing that Dr Sant said is that he did not want to destroy what the Nationalist government had built and kept a number of high profile PN persons. However, the Nationalists did that too, for example, Bertu Mizzi.

The PN track record in democracy and non-violence is much greater than the Labour record. Dr Sant's fiasco was elsewhere - e.g., the introduction of CET that effectively increased rather than decreased prices. If you don't believe me ask any businessman of your choice to show you their price costings of imports. I know because I was involved in business at the time.

And, what you choose to ignore and never answer is why Dr Muscat wants to return to a brand of socialism that is characteristic of South American or Asian dictatorial nations (rather than the more moderate European ones ) AND why does Dr Muscat keep the Labour ex-ministers who are known to have fomented violence and non-democracy. Or do you have two different definitions of democracy? One for Dr Sant and another for Dr Muscat? It seems to me that this is not a battle for transparent governance and democracy but a power struggle. Dr Muscat wants power just as much as Dr Gonzi; and, my premise is that both sides are not good for our country.

Sadly, despite some people admitting the truth, you have no compunction to state that all the PN brought about is destruction of this island (quote Joe Debono Grech). Well, since you blindly want to follow whatever these people tell you, then be my guest. I'd just check the economic statistics and compare the "real per capita income at constant prices" growth between 1981, 1987 and 2012 if I were you - just to make sure that you are not shooting yourself in the leg. Oh, by real I mean what you get in your pocket in contrast to what you used to get in Mintoff's times

V Caruana

Jul 9th 2012, 18:35

Dear GC itla fuq il-bejt u ħares madwarek u b'xi mod tara bini ta' housing estates li nbnew fi żmien Dear Dom. Minn marsaxlokk sal Mellieħa u taqsam għal Għawdex.U bilħaqq fl-1981 rat ġo Malta l-ikbar kumpanija tal-manifattura li qatt kellna s'issa li tħaddem eluf ta' nies.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 10th 2012, 14:35

Meta nitla' fuq il-bejt, il-Mellieha, nara l-state tal-Gvern f@ Ta'Pennellu, mibni mill-Partit Nazzjonlista imma mqassam mill-Gvern Laburista

Joe Fenech

Jul 9th 2012, 10:38

Spot on! They will never step down of their own accord but will try and find someone to take the weight.

Joe Fenech

Jul 9th 2012, 10:38

Spot on! They will never step down of their own accord but will try and find someone to take the weight.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 9th 2012, 11:53

@ Eddie Privitera, today at 09:19.

I do not ask you, or any other Labourite about facts known to me from my own experience. I have given abundant public proof of the injustices suffered by me under the Mintoff administration. You shut your eyes tight so as not to see what I have shown and proven to everyone else.

I know that there are Labourites who cheekily complain that under a Nationalist government they did not continue to benefit unjustly from the favoured treatment that had been showered on them by the previous MLP in government.

Anthony Scicluna

Jul 9th 2012, 13:18

Let's see, (a) Tal barrani, (b) the burning Times, (c) the attack on Dr Fenech Adami, (d) not being able to study what you want at University, (e) closing of private schools, (f) the imposition of irrelevant curricula and taking away or closing down school and university course; (g) the suspension of the constitution; (h) appropriation of private investments ...

Is this list long enough? There's more where that came from. And these are not "injustices" suffered by a single person but by the entire nation.

Also shouting is a typical labour old time habit. Stop frothing in the mouth and look at facts straight in the face. We're intelligent citizens not Mintoffian sheep to be led to the slaughter

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 9th 2012, 13:20

@ Eddy Privitera, today at 09:19.

If you so convinced that the freedom to express a different opinion existed when the MLP governed please explain the burning down of The Times by an MLP mob within hearing distance of Mintoff's office in Castille. Prove your contention that I am wrong, by quoting any similar arson of a newspaper's printing office during the time of the NP.

Do you really want me to repeat for the umpteenth time how I was illegally forced to retire compulsorily from public service (Police Medical Officer) supposedly "in the public interest" but actually because I would not jump on the bandwagon of a police force colluding in mob violence instead of preventing it?

You do not need Caps Lock to answer me, just a small dollop of honesty. Paragraphs of lies in Caps Lock won't do.

Franco Abela

Jul 9th 2012, 14:09

"This is a free country under the PN, and youb express your opinions without being molested in any way " !

DAN BIS-SERJETA.... MELA INSEJTU KIF QABZU FUQHA DIK L-ISTUDENTA LI QALET KONTRA l-ARRIVA... IMBGHAD TAPARSI HAFRULHA!

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 9th 2012, 14:51

@ Franco Abela today at 14:09

That "lady" student had her say, as she had every right to do, and others exercised their right to agree and to disagree with her outburst.

In Mintoff's days printing presses, the Curia, the law courts, NP clubs etc were destroyed or ransacked if they did not toe the MLP party line - and any occupants risked their lives just by being there.

Eddy Privitera

Jul 9th 2012, 16:54

I note that Francis Salibs M.D. did not take up the challenge to PROVE how HE had suffered under Labour. I gave proof many many times. THIS ALSO APPLIES TO YOU TOO, ANTHONY SCICLUNA ! Give us the PROOF that YOU suffered. YOU TOO DO NOT SAY ONE WORD ABOUT THE MANY, MANY BENEFITS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY BENEFITTED FROM UNDER DOM MINTOFF'S LABOUR GOVERNMENT. I NEED NOT REPEAT THEM AS ONE CAN READ THEM IN OTHER COMMENTS I HAVE POSTED.
DR. ALFRED SANT 'S GOVERNMENT WAS ALSO A LABOUR GOVERMENT. WHAT CAN YOU ASY TO THAT LABOUR GOVERNMENT ? THE NUMBER OF MPs YOU USUALLY MENTION AS BELONGING TO 'OLD LABOUR', WERE MPs ALSO IN DR. SANT'S TIME. NOBODY EVER ACCUSED THEM OF ANY VIOLENCE OR CORRUPTION THEN !

SO PLEASE, STOP YOUR AD NAUSEAM REFERENCES TO 30 AND 40 YEARS AGO. YOU SHOULD HAVE REALIZED BY NOW THAT YOU ARE ONLY PROVING THAT YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE PRESENT UNDER GONZIPN'S GOVERNMENT !

THIS IS WHAT CONCERNS THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE !!!!

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 9th 2012, 17:45

@ Eddy Privitera today at 16:54.
If you read and properly digest my comment of today at 09:19, and if you recruit some help, you might, just might understand that i have accepted your challenge to prove that I suffered under the MLP, and how. I mentioned one instance but I can quote many more. That will never convince your intentionally blinkered vision but it could bore other readers who heard my story many times before.

I intend to ignore your irrelevant propaganda material printed in upper case. To me, your abuse of the Caps Lock is only an indication of your uncouth habit of screaming instead of arguing calmly and logically.

Anthony Scicluna

Jul 9th 2012, 18:16

@Eddie
Stop using CAPS lock. It shows a lack of basic etiquette and respect of others whose opinion differs - or is the new Labour the same old Labour? If they don't agree with you bull doze them? The fact that you keep on using caps lock shows the very bullying nature of the old labour thugs. Do you need to disrespect others to show your point? It doesn't irritate me, it only reveals your true character.

I was one of the students during Mintoff's regime. That is your so called "proof". I was threatened without provocation during nationalist mass meetings by police officers in MLP times. My mother did not get children's allowance despite my late father having paid all the necessary social security payments because we were labelled as nationalists. My brother was told that there weren't enough chairs at university for him to study his own course and had to do something else.

I have a far greater list and I mentioned proof that effected me personally (all the ones I listed effected me directly and as a Maltese citizen - like others I was at tal-barrani). I got no benefits from Mintoff - my parents worked hard to send me to a private school because the public schools were trash. My study time at University was cut in half. Do you remember the 20 points system? The course I wanted at University was stopped because Mintoff thought fit that economists and physicists were not needed in Malta.

Mintoff ruined futures of so many people and you have the gall to say that his positives outweighed the negatives? I think you were living in a dream world or as a renowned labourite you were treated differently from us lesser mortals.

Where you ever beaten by the nationalist government for attending a Labour mass meeting? Where you ever arrested for attending a mass meeting? Where you ever fired on? Did the nationalist government preclude you or your own children from studying?

We do not mention 30 or 40 years ago because it pleases us. Dr J Muscat wants them back - he is trying to stuff down our throat those very thugs who governed then. It is Dr Muscat who brought the subject up through simply accepting them on the Labour ticket. Do you honestly think that we can trust labour? No way.

M Grima

Jul 9th 2012, 09:45

If the Maltese had one ounce of French blood in their veins they would have sent this government to the guillotine for squandering our coffers and ruining the democratic values of the country just to please the selected few at the expense of the many law abiding and tax-paying Maltese men/women of honour.

Wally Vella-Zarb

Jul 9th 2012, 10:27

"please understand that you are non-suited to give advice to the (PL) how they should run the party. NO ONE believes for one moment that you have any interest to give them genuine good advice for the party's benefit. Your advice is intended to benefit only a 'Nationalist' Party desperately " trying to hang on to the seat of power and to a fantasy world built on 'favourable' statistics, gained by the slimmest of margins which has long since evaporated.

The time for placebos is over; it is now time for major surgery.

Mario Scicluna

Jul 9th 2012, 11:38

@Francis Saliba

'This is a free country under the PN and you express your opinions without being molested in any way.' qalilna l-oraklu!! Mela spjegalna ghaliex FD, JPO ghandhom security wara biebhom ? Hekk, ghal kapricc tghid ?

'you are non-suited to give advice to the PN and the Prime minister how they should run the party' rega qalilna l-bravu dottore. Jien nahseb li INT non-suited, sabiex bil-mod tieghek tippatronizza lil min jikteb kontra l-fissazzjoni li ghandek li GonziPN huwa divin u ghandu ragun f'kollox, u l-PL huwa demonizzat! Nimmagina li nsejt x'gara fil-1998 meta xewwixtu kemm flahtu lil Duminku Mintoff u dlonk irsistejtu sabiex tissejjah elezzjoni bikrija u twaqqaw lil Dr. Alfred Sant wara swing mdaqqsa favur l-MLP fl-elezzjoni tan-1996. L-istess Lawrence Gonzi tghidx kemm werzaq u harbex dak iz-zmien. Konvenjentament insejt int hux?

'Important' decisions hey!! Hafna 'suspense' imbaghad johrog xi b'xi nofs decizjoni pwerili u vojta, xejn konkret!! jew attaparsi sar xi haga wara li gew 'diskussi' l-'issues', mentri tkun xi hadma minn wara l-kwinti u bil-mohbi wara dahar kulhadd u addio diskussjoni! Li hija ironika hi li mbaghad johorgu fil bieb tad Dar Centrali xi siegha wara quddiem hafna cameras u tbissim finta u ticrit tal-halq, u l-ezitu jkun? Duhhan u retorika u xejn konkret! 'Business as usua' u 'chapter closed' qalilna! X'gara minn dawk il-frazijiet Dr. Gonzi?
U l-pataflun akkuzi minn l-Onor Franco Debono, MP's Nazzjonalisti ohra u diversi esponenti prominenti ohra x'gara? Baqghu validi?

Imisshom ilhom li ittiehdu dawn id-decizjonijiet hekk imsejjha 'importanti' Dr. Gonzi, mhux ta' 'damage control' ghal PN, mhux ta' 'management by crisis', imma ghal -pajjiz. Forsi kienu jigu ssalvagwardjati l-impjiegi tat-Tarznari, ta' l- Airmalta, SeaMalta, ta-Manifattura, tat-Turizmu, ta' Selmun Palace u hafna ohrajn. Jew kienu jittiehdu b'aktar ghaqal u serjeta progetti bhal White Rocks, Marsa Sports Complex u l-famuza hrafa ta' Smart City li suppost kellha timpjega mas-6,000 post gdid ghaz-zaghzagh taghna. Biex ma nsemmiex li hadd ma baqa 'accountable gewwa dan il-pajjiz! U xi nghidu ghall kontijiet esagerati ta-dawl u ilma u l-prezz tal-fuels fost l-ghola fl-Ewropa? U t-tahwid tas-sistema ta l-Edukazzjoni f'Malta ? U l-babilonja gewwa Mater Dei? Dawk huma d-decizjonijiet 'importanti li kellhek tieghu Dr. Gonzi, mhux tkompli tkaxkar sabiex il PN fil Gvern jibqa marbut mal-poter akkost ta' kollox.

Li ddeffes rasek fir-ramel huwa hazin daqs li ma taghmel xejn jew li tiehu decizjonijiet hziena! M tridx tkun 'bicca deputat' jew tghix f'xi 'Parallel Universe' kif qal xi hadd sabiex tinduna Dr. Gonzi wara li taparsi tisma lil poplu(filwaqt li tivvota kontrih fil-Parlament) u zzur il-kcejjen. Il-poplu issaporta hafna filwaqt li spera u xtaq li min imexxih kien lest jiffaccja u jaqbad il-barri minn qrunu u jindirizza dawk il-problemi u wegghat li ltaqgha maghhom tul dawn is snin li farrkuh, sallbuh! Il-poplu jrid issa min jisma, jixtieq tama u li jsib wens u gustizzja socjali, slogans u buzz words li ntqalu hafna imma fil-fatt sar bil-kontra! Dawk ikunu decizjonijiet 'importanti Dr. Gonzi.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 9th 2012, 12:55

@ Wally Vella Zarb, today at 10:27

What are you blubbering about?

I have never given any advice to the Labour Party. I beg to try and become a credible alternative to a Nationalist Party government. I do that only after the MLP/LP has been stagnating on the opposition benches, practically without interruption, for twentyfive years.

I do not pretend to be making that request in the interests of the Labour Party. I wish it in the interests of our democratic republic that should depend on a regular alternation of credible governments according to the wishes expressed by the electorate during free general elections.

The Nationalist Party is not "desperately hanging to the seat of power" against the expressed will of the electorate. The MLP did that arrogantly and shamelessly. Today, the Nationalist Party is only fulfilling its obligations to the electorate that gave it a mandate to govern for five years at the last general election.

If you are unable to be original in your comment, and if you need to adapt my comment to express your own needs, please do it with elementary skill and with respect to the truth.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 9th 2012, 13:03

@ M Grima, today at 09:27.

I always suspected that there are elements within the Labour Party whose ridiculous version of democratic rule consists in using the guilliotine to decapitate its leaders (nobles, priests and revolutionaries without distinction) to assuage the thirst for blood of the sans culottes. You would fit in nicely in that mob beside Madam Lafarge.

Paul Giordimaina

Jul 9th 2012, 09:30

Mr Chetcuti there is a lot of difference between what happens in Malta and what is happening in Australia those in Aus wants to stay hert for a better lifelike you and me, and whats happening in Malta they want to go to Europe through Malta.

Joe Fenech

Jul 9th 2012, 10:31

" Any discussion about migration policy is immediately labelled racist. "

The incompetent scorns others to mask his void!

Ray Spiteri

Jul 8th 2012, 22:20

tidher qedha tibza mil elezzjoni. wake up paula the majority of the people want gonzi back to tal pieta. ex pn

Victor Laiviera

Jul 8th 2012, 22:57

1) It was a RELATIVE majority of less than 1%. Approx 1,500 votes, less than half a quota.

2) The "fair and square" is very dubious. There were many factors, such as the way that the cheap flights on Air Malta were manipulated and the extension of the voting times, that made the election process look very dodgy indeed. And episodes like the meetings at Villa Arrigo for disgruntled Nationalists where they were promised the moon and the earth if they voted PN did not help, either.

R. Balzan

Jul 9th 2012, 09:38

i certainly don't agree with you that the last election was won "fair and square" by the PN. The elections were won with a series of systematic and unscrupulous fraudulent lies and half-truths coupled with a huge concerted effort to allow people who had no legal right to vote, to vote for PN. No wonder such a malignant hen hatched the worst government to administer Malta these past 60 years.

Joe Fenech

Jul 9th 2012, 00:00

PN will lay them off knowing the consequences. It's a slow suicide...

Paul Giordimaina

Jul 9th 2012, 09:37

Vic you got guts to talk of relative majority when your party govern 5 and a half years with a minority.So Vic its not a very long time to wait keep on spiting po---n

Thomas Mifsud

Jul 8th 2012, 22:25

True with GonziPn the country keeps moving, everybody moving from jobs to jobs, from full-time workplace to part-time and maybe another part-time just get enough income to keep our families going. Do you have another joke please Mrs Buhagiar?

Monica Muscat

Jul 9th 2012, 00:04

A German lady friend of mine, widow of a Maltese National, lately put me a question, which she later unswered herself. "Why have so many politicians, both in Malta and in Europe, have reached a stage when self-seek comes before honest duty? Because too many Politicians have lost the true spirit of Chritian Politics inspired and sought by one of the Father Founders of a united Europe - Konrad Edenhaure (excuses for any mis-spelling of surname)" Yes I agree with her. I fact I have a couple of lady friends who named their son/s Konrad, in his honour! Yet, when I tried to look up some literature about this great man, all his biographies and his autobiography got a bad rating on Internet! That makes one think. Was this good man, for a good man he was, far back in time, or too far on, beyond a stage we have still to reach?
Let us hope the last consideration is the real one! At least there would still be hope for us and for Europe.

Charlie Zahra

Jul 9th 2012, 02:36

LOL, Why should we thank Gonzipn, It was he who created so many problems which he cannot solve no matter what, even in his party. So as Joseph Muscat says Gonzipn is the PROBLEMMMM.

Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti

Jul 9th 2012, 04:16

Fiona, please don't show how brainwashed you are. Foreigners read this paper.

M camilleri

Jul 8th 2012, 20:38

you hit the nail..bravo

Tonio Farrugia

Jul 8th 2012, 20:51

Yawn!

Rodnick Abdilla

Jul 9th 2012, 00:41

It will be the biggest mistake ever to change a leader now, how can he plan to to have the electoral manifiesto now ? gonzi go for it now before more damage done

B Ellul

Jul 9th 2012, 07:15

Prosit... Nostradamus

Tonio Farrugia

Jul 8th 2012, 20:51

yawn yawn!

Joe Muscat

Jul 8th 2012, 21:56

Tonio Farrugia....qisek il-gvern... ghax lu rieqed ....

C Sant

Jul 8th 2012, 23:35

Hopefully you shall not regret it! Can you tell me why is that 20000 new jobs is a lie? very year, around 3000 young persons graduate from University and MCAST, and all find a job. Thus in under 7 years this would already account for 20000 jobs - not to mention another 2000 or so that enter employment group at the age of 16/18 er year and find a job.

If Pl is a total loss, then expect that our economy shall go from good to bad to worse - who shall suffer, you, me and our children.

Not voting is not a solution - you shall still have a government that you shall not have helped to elect, but still it shall govern you. Vote and choose your candidates well after looking at the past and with an eye to future plans.

Kleaven Maniscalco

Jul 8th 2012, 22:08

Jaq xi dwejjaq ta kumment.....Apart from that what you are talking about is not the interest of Malta but that of the Labour Party

Joe Fenech

Jul 8th 2012, 19:52

No, he's an independent bloke who had a big international portfolio and more qualifications than everyone else in Malta. Why else do you think he got the job he has?

R. Balzan

Jul 8th 2012, 20:03

@ Joe Fenech - "he has more more qualifications than everyone else in Malta". Kemm tara kbir habib! Jew intom kollha ahjar minn kulhadd f'kollox?

Joe Fenech

Jul 8th 2012, 20:25

R.Balzan:

You obviously haven't spotted the irony...

Alfred Cassar

Jul 8th 2012, 21:02

Hey Joe,

I think you have just insulted every intellectual on the Island,

that in Karate is called a very quick double kick below the belt!

Paul Giordimaina

Jul 9th 2012, 09:53

Jb ghandek ragun tibza ghax minn jejx barra jara u talem hafna u jaff kemm Malta marret il quddiem ghalek qedin tibzaw.Partit li irrid jirbah ellezjoni blinjorranza

Roberta Sciberras

Jul 8th 2012, 20:19

Ah Mr Zammit... you know probably the problem is that the PN did not find lawyers to do that sort of work for free like the PL does... so we create a spin. Totally laughable.

Mr Joe Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 22:08

Zammit, your critical analysis is award winning - for gross stupidity but in your case it's an unexpected privilege!

Frank Zammit

Jul 9th 2012, 05:27

Ms Roberta Sciberras the only laughable thing here is the attitude of the PN. I challenge the PN to issue a statement in which they denie doing this exercise before each and every election.

As regards finding lawyers to do the job for free for them......I don't think that's a problem for this party that claims to be a pillar of democracy. I mean do they really need to find lawyers to do the job free for them? I don't think so; not after giving themselves 600 Euros ( later dreduced to 500 Euros) increase a week.

Frank Zammit

Jul 8th 2012, 19:23

Hysterical and confused is more accurate.

Joseph Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 18:44

I am one of those who will vote Partit Laburista for the first time. As if I'm going to trust GonziPN again. We've tasted his capabilities [or the lack of them]. The proof of the pudding is in the eating and unfortunately enough for Malta, the proof of GonziPN, who hijacked the PN was a complete, total failure, incompetence, mis-management, clique politics etc..

God forbids from seeing GonziPN another time in government. After all these years of total disaster in governing, this mhux ser nafda l-futur tieghi f'idejn politiku oligarku?

MALCOLM SEYCHELL

Jul 8th 2012, 18:50

Its your choice. Many people will vote PL because the Pn is lead by Gonzi.

Rodnick Abdilla

Jul 8th 2012, 18:51

U jien limhux ser tkun lewwel darba tieghi mhux ser navda il vot tieghi Fidejn min berbaq il malta min flusi li ilni nahdem u nistinka ghall pajjizi kemm ilni nahdem, Nixtieqlek il gid u sucess Zghazugh

pat muscat

Jul 8th 2012, 18:52

@Pierre Borg. Tafda ruhek f'hadd sur -Borg; imxi il-quddiem jekk int kapaci. Eluf imxew l' quddiem taht Gvernijiet Laburisti li dahlu: skola obligatorja b'xejn, skola sekondarja obligatorja b'xejn, universita b'xejn...sal-1971 kient bil-flus u kieni jidhlu biss xi 150 student!...stipendji ghal min jistudja ec ecc. Nawguralek!

Anthony A. Mifsud

Jul 8th 2012, 19:03

Pierre Borg, I realy wonder which way you will be voting! Never the less, it's good for you to study the history of the PN not the latest Gonzipn, as this was the destroyer of the blood sweat and tears that our fore fathers gve us.
Ninu

Joseph Brincat

Jul 8th 2012, 19:21

Pierre Borg
YOU LIKE IT OR NOT MUSCAT IS GOING
TO BE >> YOUR PRIME MINISTER THANK GOD !!!!

David Farrugia

Jul 8th 2012, 19:33

tghallimt kelma gdida mil-kapo tieghek dalgjhodu jaqaw? anyways...who needs your vote kiddo?

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 20:01

Pierre - vote who you want. I will vote PL.

But I give you a key advice. Do not base your career on any political party winning or loosing.

Work for what you want yourself and be determined. If you are, you will achieve things whether PL or PN.

Kleaven Maniscalco

Jul 8th 2012, 22:22

@ pat muscat

Universita b'xejn kienet imma ma ninsewx l-20 punt u il parrinu ta. Naf nies bil gzuz li baqaw barra l-universita u irrovinawlom karriera ghal-dejjem.

Joe Fenech

Jul 9th 2012, 00:46

I don't know in which language I should address you! Populist? Have you ever listened to Gonzi blabbing?

john muscat

Jul 8th 2012, 18:43

His masters voice Sur Borg. The news item is about FD, JPO & J. Muglett ,if you have read the item.

jesmond zammit

Jul 8th 2012, 18:43

pacli tkun pappaggall ta xi hadd , mhux facli imma tghix hawn barra .

Frank Zammit

Jul 8th 2012, 19:20

What new jobs? This GONZI PN must really think that we all live in cloud cuckoo land. Have some respect for us and get real.

Here is a challenge for the PN; Publish a detailed list of the new jobs that this miraculous government has created.

Charlie Zahra

Jul 9th 2012, 02:53

Carl Are 5000 jobs of so called Smart city included + many other jobs of White rocks,What about those lost from Malta drydocks,Go, public transport, Airmalta and so on. you must be living in a dream like Gonzipn, Wake up.

john muscat

Jul 8th 2012, 18:36

Mela issa kullhadd fl'UE qed ifalli, Maria? Portugall, Spanja, Irlanda, Italja, Grecja, Etc.u dawn kollha ftaharna bihom qabel ma ivvotajna biex nissiehbu maghhom!!! U le le x'kull wahda wkoll! U x'ipokresija!!

Joseph Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 18:47

Imnalla l-Partit Nazzjonalista ma telghax fil-gvern fis-70's u 80's ghax kieku la ghandek dritt ghal vot, la ghandek jew ser ikollok penzjoni, la tahdem [ghaliex postok ikun fil-kcina] la jkollok children allowance, la ghandek banek fejn tista tfaddal, la jkollok linja ta' l-ajru li tista ssiefre biha u elf haga ohra Sinjura/Sinjorina Maria Caruana.

Wally Vella-Zarb

Jul 8th 2012, 18:52

Mela nsejt meta kienu jsemmulna lil Spanja, il-Portugall, il-Grecja u l-Irlanda bhala ezempju ta' kemm konna ser inkunu ahjar...?


Joseph Grech Attard

Jul 8th 2012, 18:57

Cipru falliet. Ahna ghadna qeghdin infallu. Biex inkunu korrotti ... Eh, skuzi, korretti!!

Wally Vella-Zarb

Jul 8th 2012, 18:55

There is one big difference: whether one agreed with him or not politically, there is no doubt that Dr Giorgio Borg Olivier was a Gentleman.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 8th 2012, 18:22

@ Louise Vella, today at 18:11.

Where are the credentials authorising you to pronounce what Prime Minister Dr Lawrence Gonzi MAY do? I cannot believe that Dr Gonzi would ever appoint you as his P.R.O. Apologies if I am mistaken.

Roberta Sciberras

Jul 8th 2012, 20:27

Dan il-kumment qisu mera tal-krizi ta' identita li hemm bhalissa fil-PN - tlett lingwi f'sentenza wahda!

carlos ellul

Jul 8th 2012, 19:07

Considering the PN track record on this issue, we'll probably agree to a deal which involves mainland Europe taking 100 immigrants from us only if we accept taking 10,000 immigrants from mainland Europe.

M Borg

Jul 8th 2012, 17:33

Agree 100% All MPs are elected by the people of Malta.

The three in question were elected on the NP ticket so the " people who elected them expect their loyalty."

They did not vote for them to harm the party.

Even a band club has an executive committee , and they have a say when " members cross a certain line " . Nothing new here.

Joseph Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 18:48

Ditto - spot on Ramon... if MP's are duty bound to vote with the party line, so why is a vote taken in the first place???

Roberta Sciberras

Jul 8th 2012, 20:36

If all MPs are duty bound to vote along party lines all the time then we might as well whittle our House of Representatives down to three members - 2 for the government and 1 for the opposition and save ourselves a packet!

ANTHONY PAVIA

Jul 8th 2012, 18:29

It seems JPO's accusations have already been partly confirmed by the PL's leader.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 8th 2012, 16:42

In my opinion a Prime Minister who habitually defeats serial "No Confidence" motions by an unholy alliance between the opposition and disloyal MPs in his own party must actually have a "PAR IDEJN SODI".

Colin Camilleri

Jul 8th 2012, 17:37

@Francis Saliba, the only habit your PM has is to run for elections on his own. He loves it when he wins, even if he is the only candidate.... you mention No Confidence votes.... Which ones did he win? Being saved by the speaker? losing an important asset like CMB, a minister? and what about RCC?

The PM asks for confidence votes only when he is sure to win. That is why he has been delaying getting the vote directly from the people..

but hopefully the waiting is getting shorter by the day! one day he must and shall face the electorate ....

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jul 8th 2012, 18:30

@ Colin Camilleri, today at 17:37

You should know that the Labour Party itself has all the facility to present a motion of "no confidence" in the government whenever it entertains some dim hope of succeeding.

Alfred Vassallo

Jul 8th 2012, 16:01

''Nationalist paradise'' forsi! Imma for the likes of you and the blue eyed boys.

G Tonna

Jul 8th 2012, 16:52

Typically socialist. Unfortunately collectivist creeps still abound.

Alfred Vassallo

Jul 8th 2012, 19:17

@G Tonna ''Unfortunately collectivist creeps still abound. ''

The feeling is deeply mutual.

Paul Gauci

Jul 8th 2012, 14:59

Maria nahseb ahjar tistenna l-verdett tal-Qorti. Imhattra li l-Qorti ser taghti ragun lil PL u r-rikorsi li saru jigu accettati?

George Azzopardi

Jul 8th 2012, 15:34

Ara vera tal-misthija li tisma nies bhalek jiprovaw jihdu krettu min min qed jaghmel l-affarijiet kif suppost u jiccekja sew min ghandu dritt ghal-vot jew le. U bil-qorti dan ...

Ahjar tara x'ghamel l-gvern tieghek li qe igelna nivvutaw b'ID cards skaduti!!

Joe Tabone

Jul 8th 2012, 15:57

Paul,
you should check your facs and ask the PL electoral office if there was an understanding for the 2008 election, to refrain from striking voters from the elctoral register. I believe Dr Cassola had praised both party leaders for this bold step of not striking voters of the register especially those on work with EU institutions. Now things have changed, you ask PL electoral office why??

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 14:38

Angelo - dawk huma id-domandi;

Veru jew le?

Ghidli, 20,000 part-time jew full time?!! saqsieh lil PM.

L'ETC stess qallet li dawk jinkludu part-time.

Saqsi lil Gonzi jekk it-temporary roles li jigu imgedda jekk qieghedx jghoddu kull darba li jigeddu?

Fl'ahhar mill-ahhar Gonzi qieghed jghid 20,000 mhux jien - u ghalhekk huwa irried jghatti ir-risposti?

Insejt il-bill boards "SMART CITY 6,000 Impjieg gdid" qabel l'elezjoni li ghaddiet?!!

insejtu dan?!

Malta mhux f'ricesjoni qieghda?!! dan Gonzi ma jsemmieghx?!!

Jeffrey Mallia

Jul 8th 2012, 14:29

Can you be a bit original at least ?? Empty vessels makes no noise :)

vincent a galea

Jul 8th 2012, 14:36

"and who will soon become Ministers."

What gave you that idea, Mr Borg ??

Johnny Xerri

Jul 8th 2012, 14:48

& did gonzi give a right to his MPs to vote...

lol...if I have to vote as he says...then he might as well vote for me...

leon camilleri

Jul 8th 2012, 17:22

ha nispjegalek mill ftit li naf sur vassalo .... tidhol tahdem u jghamillek kuntratt ghal sitt xhur u toqod iggeded il kuntratt sitt xhur sitt xhur u ma tafx kemm andek tahdem ... u jekk tkun trid loan mil bank qas itik , jew inkella persuna tkun tahdem bil 4 day week . jew tithallas b xi 3.50 s siegha u trid tmantni familja .

Joe Fenech

Jul 8th 2012, 15:40

(the right portfolio)

Ronnie Callus

Jul 8th 2012, 14:32

@ Pippo De Marco:
Take off his hands from his Ears as he is not Hearing and even seeing !!!!

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 14:34

Antonia - simple question; Do you want people who are NOT legally entitled to vote, to vote?

I think wee ought to leave it to the courts to decide - FULL STOP!

Johnny Xerri

Jul 8th 2012, 14:53

you speak of promises...what did the PN do...lets see:

1. Tax cuts promise...(not enough money for that...but enough for their €500 weekly pay rise)

2. Lies to fisherman.

3. Lies to hunters...(Blaiming it on the EU when the UK alone has over 2000 derogations...and Malta cannot even apply one single one in a satisfactory manner)

4. Smart city...(6000 + jobs...when its still ghost city)

5. Public transport reform...(when its still in 3rd class after a whole year...lol...with many new buses breaking down)

mark borg

Jul 8th 2012, 15:13

Are we going back to the 70s 80s were LP makes sure that the peoples voice isn't heard?

il brainwashing tas solitu u paroli fil vojt ...biex probabli int antoina kellek xi 3 snin dak iz zmien !!! DAK IZ ZMIEN META BDIED DIEHLA ID DEMOKRAZIJA MALTA ANTONIA GHAX SA !(&! BIL PN FIL GVERN KONNA PAJJIZ FUNDAMENTALIST U JHEKK TIVVOTA LIL MLP KIENU JITFNUK FIL MIZBLA !!!!!!!!!! U FEJN GHANDHA L_EHEN ILLUM FIT 2012 ?? JEW WAHDA MIN TAL KLIKKA ....JEW GHAL LEHEN FORSI FXI PROGRAMM TA BONDIPLUS ?????? QED TIRREFERI !!!!!!!!

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 13:57

I pretty much agree with the only exception that most Maltese immigrated in the 60s not 70s and 80s - when Malta was left hungry after a PN administration.

Paul Gauci

Jul 8th 2012, 14:47

Because that's the only way how they stand a chance to win Mr. Busuttil.

GonziPN has already gave up to win the elections FAIRLY.

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 14:32

no substance!

Paul Gauci

Jul 8th 2012, 14:48

Be original! Don't be a parrot of GonziPN!

A Trapani

Jul 8th 2012, 13:23

No Nenu... far from it.... the only real dictator we had was MLP's Dom Mintoff when he governed Malta for more than 5 years with a minority of votes.... and that was only the biggest sign as there were many many other attitudes of dictatorship by the MLP my friend and we all know them.

G.A. Scicluna

Jul 8th 2012, 13:16

I wouldnt be so sure

Ray Spiteri

Jul 8th 2012, 13:17

A message to Mr. Charles Muscat.
Day/night dreaming.
EX PN

John Borg

Jul 8th 2012, 13:20

Nostradamus?

Julian Tonna

Jul 8th 2012, 13:24

nostradamus hahaha

Joseph Gatt

Jul 8th 2012, 13:24

Ah the arrogance. Keep thinking that way Mr. Muscat you will sleep better, for a few more months at least.

Eddy Privitera

Jul 8th 2012, 13:24

Charles Muscat: Was NOSTRADAMUS a relative of yours ?

Joseph Brincat

Jul 8th 2012, 13:28

Charles Muscat
GO TO SLEEP AND KEEP ON >> DREAMING >> HA HA HI

mark borg

Jul 8th 2012, 15:15

like your leader, Charles......living in denial !

G Tonna

Jul 8th 2012, 17:51

Hey it could well be! The Nationalists won six out of the last seven elections!

Barney Camilleri

Jul 8th 2012, 18:53

Charles Muscat
Last time I vote PN this time I will NOT VOTE.
A lot of N.P. are taking this stand over and over during local counsel elections and like all the local election results the Labour Party is going to have a deserving Walk Over.

Hubert Paul Farrugia

Jul 8th 2012, 13:08

Google search 'gainfully occupied' before you post another useless comment.

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 13:16

Paul - that is exactly my argument in previous comments. This 20,000 is just a gimmick - because they count temprorary roles which sometimes are just for a few months... and also Part time roles, like waiters at McDonalds!

Paul Gauci

Jul 8th 2012, 14:38

Hubert it would have been better if you asked your friends at tal-pieta to explain to us how many jobs were lost in the last 4 years in order to have the number of gainfully occupied people increase by only 3000.

The 20,000 new jobs advert is not just a gimmick and the people realised that.

Edgar Apap

Jul 8th 2012, 14:10

Totally Agree With You Adrian . If Gonzi Looks At The Polls The Times Published Today He Should Shoulder His Responsibelaties And Make Way For A New NP Leader . But I Expect More Gimmicks At The Next Nationalists Party Executive Meeting To Buy More Time Obviously . Gonzi Enough Is Enough . End This One Way Or Another .

Rita Smith

Jul 8th 2012, 13:00

Maybe you could teach Dr. Gonzi the democratic credentials! I don't blame you that you are fed up of the PN governing for such a long time, but who voted him in? Stop being a parrot.

Rita Smith

ALBERT FENECH

Jul 8th 2012, 13:21

Ms Smith, I don't need to teach Dr Gonzi anything - a schoolboy could do that.. However, over and above that, what is the point of your comment? Are you one of the derisory fragile who still believes that democracy in Malta began in 1987? If that is the case, I have no further comment to add.

ALBERT FENECH

Joseph E Briffa

Jul 8th 2012, 14:38

Albert Fenech.........are you suggesting that Labour will be a democratic government?.. You must be dreaming, when the diehard members of the Mintoff cabinet and the diehard activists of those days are again in the Labour fold;. and they have been given prominent posts, even the drawing up of the Labour manifest has been assigned to one of these.

Mr Joe Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 13:03

What else could you expect from Privitera! Typical of a PL poodle he thinks he is the prosecution, defence, judge and jury.

Mr Edward Caruana Galizia

Jul 8th 2012, 13:18

@Micallef.Don't you just love his gradual lead into capital letters? You can almost hear the crescendo. Next time he should type his comment on word. That way he could use different size fonts to make the increase more gradual and finish with a few things from clip art.

Eddy Privitera

Jul 8th 2012, 13:29

Joe Micallef: Where is your argument confronting mine ?? Did you see any word said by Dr. Gonzi on those who appear on the electoral register, but who no longer have the legal right to vote ???

Charles Delicata

Jul 8th 2012, 13:31

How come the Malta Labour Party checked on those who went abroad to study, but did not check those who came back even as far as two years ago?

Neil Dent

Jul 8th 2012, 14:25

No Eddie, here's the plan. The PN will win the next election by counting invalid votes, non-voters, and also those who happen to die in the interim.

No hang on, wait, hasn't that been tried before, failing and causing major international embarrassment?

G Tonna

Jul 8th 2012, 16:57

Being part of the Mintoff legacy is a disgrace in itself. What a shame!

Joe Fenech

Jul 8th 2012, 20:12

Those who are not on the electoral register are people who've been abroad for many years but who still can contribute towards a saner society!

Mr Joe Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 12:59

From where did you get your stats profs? Never mind your last sentence says it all!

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 13:13

well - tell me that I am not right?

Ask PN to disclaim what I am saying?

Are temporary jobs counted again and again?!
Is a substantial part of the 20,000 part time work?
was SMART city not suppose to meployee 6,000?
Is Malta not in a recession?!

tell PN to disclaim these assertions?!

Paul Giordimaina

Jul 9th 2012, 10:24

Mr Dimnech why you cant stand the truth that the Gov created 20000 jobs.You should be happy.

Rita Smith

Jul 8th 2012, 12:48

Forsi minn hawn u ftit iehor ser issibu x-xoghol!

Rita Smith

William Caligari

Jul 8th 2012, 13:13

Fil-fabbrika tas-sinjura Rita Smith OK xbin!!!!

Charles Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 13:49

Rita Smith,

I appreciate that the Times' poll this morning brought you sad news today, and hence one understand why you are being so defensive of the PN, or is it perhaps that your livelihood depends on the PN?

Mr Joe Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 19:02

One reads your first paragraph and draws conclusions on your analytical skills.

albert galea

Jul 8th 2012, 12:30

What is your feature, Mr. Borg? You are a first time voter, are you too inexperienced to vote?

B. Theuma

Jul 8th 2012, 12:58

U billi Gonzi ghandu l-esperjenza ? Kisser partit u halla l-poplu jsaffar.

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 12:33

so much so, that he lost his own majority in parliament and his party is in dissaray!

Jessica Smith

Jul 8th 2012, 12:31

Maria, You will get your answer come next election.

B. Theuma

Jul 8th 2012, 12:51

"He talks about peoples' priorities"

Bejn il-kliem u l-fatti hemm bahar jikkumbatti ! Paroli biss !

Paul Gauci

Jul 8th 2012, 14:55

Talks about people's priorities.......and then acts by wasting 90 million euros on a new parliament.


Good sense of priorities indeed!

G Tonna

Jul 8th 2012, 17:49

Hey you guys! The Nationalists won six out of the last seven elections! Does this tell you something? Gonzi is by far superior to Joseph at all levels.

Rita Smith

Jul 8th 2012, 12:52

How did he destroy the country? Cannot you look around you and see for yourself? Are you that blind. Oh my goodness, poor Malta!

Rita smith

William Caligari

Jul 8th 2012, 13:21

Are you living in the outer space, sinjura Rita Smith!!!?

Charles Micallef

Jul 8th 2012, 13:51

Rita Smith,

Do you really believe that no one else could have done better for Malta, it is obviously you who are blinkered and not the other bloggers!

Rita Smith

Jul 8th 2012, 12:56

Yes you are fed up of a nationalist government. You are labour, so how could your reasoning be otherwise Mr Micallef. good luck to you. I think you work in the tourism industry so let's hope Joseph if he is elected would bring double the tourists that the PN government brought.

Rita Smith

William Caligari

Jul 8th 2012, 13:27

Way are you sa afraid if PL is elected, mela imnihrek fix-xghir sinjura Smith?

Ronnie Callus

Jul 8th 2012, 14:37

@ Saviour Cachia:
Imma Saviour bilhaqq baqa fkieren hawn, ghax dawk tal-Gnejna ghadd jonqoshom biex iffaqqsu.

Neil Dent

Jul 8th 2012, 14:35

It's 'toe', not 'tow' the party line. And so they definitely should, regardless of which side of the house they are on. Check up on such procedures G Schembri. MPs should vote as instructed by the party whip (unless in a free vote where there is no whip involved), or else face the music. Very simple.

G Schembri

Jul 8th 2012, 17:53

Neil Dent thanks for correcting my mistake, but that is the only thing you are right about. MPs are the people's representatives and should vote as such. People vote for a candidate and not for the party, as a matter of fact you can cross vote. you might decide that candidate A from the PN list deserves your fist preference and Candidate B from the PL list deserves your second choice. As a matter of fact the Prime Minister should be the person with the most MPs support. The Parties only took such an important role after the 1982 election, before that no one made such a fuss when an MP did not vote with his party. It is only the present PN administration who are making such a fuss about this, in the past there were other MPs who did not vote with their party, or abstained and there was no such fuss. There also were MPs who crossed to the other party taking their parliamentary seat with them, no such fuss was ever made.

Neil Dent

Jul 8th 2012, 20:30

It's you, G Schembri who is in the wrong here. What has voting for candidates in an election got to do with a parliamentary vote?

And no - when the party whip has instructed how members should vote, then that is how they should vote. If not, then they should face the music. Simple! That's what the Westminster parliamentary model, emulated and adopted in Malta dictates.

That is the very basic difference between the recent votes on RCC and CMB, and last year's FREE VOTE on divorce when all members were able to vote as they wished, according to conscience.

G Schembri

Jul 9th 2012, 08:17

Neil Dent your comment " What has voting for candidates in an election got to do with a parliamentary vote?" shows that for you democracy means that people votes for a party and get a 4 year Dictatorship, where the parliament acts on the Whim of one person be it the Prime Minister of RCC. I have news for you - in a true Democracy the people elect their representatives to act in their interest and NOT in the Party's or RCCs interest. Your comment which is reflecting what the PN are saying shows that the PN only want Democracy when it suits them. Such comments confirm my opinion that it is high time to vote the PN into the opposition at least for the next five years, or until the GonziPN regime is out of the way.

A Dimech

Jul 8th 2012, 12:29

there is another option:-

The three may become four or five!! or more...

Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti

Jul 9th 2012, 00:50

Joe, the trouble with Gonzi PN and the PN is that they are no good at people management.

Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti

Jul 9th 2012, 00:48

Meta ma jaqblux mieghu biss!

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