PL gives Pullicino Orlando’s family private security
The Labour Party has provided Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando with round-the-clock private security following a series of “credible” threats against his family.
The offer was made by Michelle Muscat, the wife of Opposition Leader Joseph Muscat, an “old friend” of Dr Pullicino Orlando’s partner Carmen Ciantar, a Labour activist, The Times has learnt.
Dr Pullicino Orlando last month voted with the opposition to oust one of the Nationalist Party’s most valued exponents Richard Cachia Caruana, Malta’s EU Ambassador and PN strategist, prompting outrage from party supporters.
When contacted, the PL confirmed having helped “source” a security company to “Ms Ciantar’s family” after it became known that she was concerned about her family’s security.
A spokesman said the services were not costing the party anything.
Dr Pullicino Orlando, who says he is not paying for the service either, explained why he had accepted the offer, despite having been given police protection.
He said he had received a number of credible threats, specifically aimed at members of his immediate family.
For personal security he usually engages the security agency of Stephen Ciangura, “a personal friend”, who also provides the PN with security on a regular basis.
“He provides his services to the PN free of charge. He does not charge me for his services either,” Dr Pullicino Orlando said.
“Mrs Muscat is an old friend of my partner, Carmen. Once she heard that our family was being threatened she graciously contacted Carmen and asked her whether she could be of any help in this respect.
“After consulting me, Carmen obviously accepted. We have four children in our household and this is not an easy time for us. Any offer for help is appreciated.”
Dr Pullicino Orlando said he informed the Prime Minister and PN general secretary Paul Borg Olivier accordingly last week.
“I was completely honest with regard to the assistance being given to us thanks to Mrs Muscat. I told Dr Borg Olivier that I would appreciate it if he felt he was in a position to offer any assistance in this respect.
“I can publicly reiterate that I will accept any help offered by him.”
Dr Pullicino Orlando added that he would be holding those who have resorted to “inciting people against me and my family” personally responsible for any harm that could befall any of his relatives.
“Nothing can justify what we are being put through,” he said, adding that if people wanted him expelled from the party for exercising his democratic right in Parliament, they should do so without resorting to “vile, bullying tactics”.
Dr Pullicino Orlando said he was grateful for the protection offered by the police, noting that this was not round-the-clock.
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Mario Cassar
Jul 28th 2012, 14:52
One wonders what party is JPO refering to ,since he has resigned from the PN, not a member of MLP, [yet],so perhaps he has problems within his INDEPENDENT party.Rather cofusing issue,but perhaps his plan is to relive the same pantomine he did when going through MISTRGATE by shedding some crocodile tears to impress the MUSCAT LABOUR PARTY.When are you going to grow up and act like a man JPO.
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 7th 2012, 15:30
@ Mario Scicluna
If you are so informed, name the tugs and police who were promoted and to what ranks they were promoted.
@ Mr Colin Schembri
tal-barrani 25 sena ilu...l-Imnarja 30 sena ilu...possibbli li ma tafx li f'dan il-kaz IL-PASSAT HUWA GARANZIJA TAL-FUTUR? Hallina, inti kont minn dejjem tappoggja lill-PARTIT NAZZJONALISTA!!!! Iddahhaqx nies bik Colin !!!!!!!!!!
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 7th 2012, 15:25
@ EDDIE privitera
EDDIE minkejja dak li qal, adrian vassallo hawn baqa u ma marx l-Iran. Ghalija seta mar u baqa hekk ghal ghomru. Kuntent hu, kuntent kullhadd.
Izda ghal partit lejburista nahseb li zgur kien ikun ahjar li mar l-Iran u baqa hemm, ghaliex kieku ma kienx jiftah halqu u jmur fuq PBS/TVM ghand Bondi+ u jghid quddiem Malta kollha li "dear leader" joseph muscat huwa "DITTATUR U KOMUNIST"
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 6th 2012, 21:14
@ EDDIE privitera
There are people who do work for no payment as volunteers, especially on humanitarian grounds, but not the people you have in mind and certainly not the partit lejburista.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 7th 2012, 08:51
Angelo Vassallo: Meta tikkwota x'qal Adrian Vassallo, allura jmissek ukoll tikkwota x'kien qal meta kien qal li
" JIPPREFERI JMUR JGHIX L-IRAN MILLI JIBQA JGHIX F'MALTA TAHT GONZIPN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAK IN-NHAR EMMINTU LIL ADRIAN VASSALLO ?????????????
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 6th 2012, 20:56
@ EDDIE privitera
La naf u wisq anqas jimpurtani x'qieghed jigri fil-partit lejburista.
Il-partit lejburist llum huwa "dittatur u komunist" skont adrian vassallo mp/pl/mlp kif wara kollox dejjem kien u allura jispjega ezattament meta il-poplu malti jghid li "il-lejburisti MA JINBIDLQATT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Il-PL illum huwa xempju ta' ghaqda li QATT ma kellkhom bhala f'GonziPN
Daniel Dimech
Jul 21st 2012, 09:56
int bis serjeta???
Eddy Privitera
Jul 6th 2012, 16:05
Edward Curmi: So you do not believe that there are people who do work for no payment as volunteers, especially on humanitarian grounds, do you ????
Edward Curmi
Jul 10th 2012, 11:57
Dear Eddy..volunteering on humitarian grouns is helping poor..disabled or maybe old people..I do not think security officers can be considered vounteers..but of course you only see red thinking maybe JM in power will give you some imoortance!!
Edward Curmi
Jul 6th 2012, 09:35
In return do they want an early election??
Joe B Edwards
Jul 6th 2012, 08:03
My question is what is he giving in return for their services?
Joseph Scicluna
Jul 6th 2012, 07:07
Dom Mintoff, Debono Grech, Marie Louise Coleiro Pace, Adrian Vassllo etc. etc. etc. any private security?????????
Anthony Arpa
Jul 6th 2012, 06:01
A spokesman said the sevices were not costing the party anything.
Ah never knew we have Security Companies that offer FREE security .... It will be interesting to know which is compony that offers this free service and if this offer this service free to everyone or to limited to thoses that this compony belive they must invest for the future ?
Edward Curmi
Jul 6th 2012, 09:36
The security company will probably be awarded some tender without the necessary requirements if PL is elected!!..transparency at its best!!
Sarah Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 23:17
Can we too apply for free security services from the PL? I had no idea they offered such generous services
Gregory Spiteri
Jul 5th 2012, 22:07
Kif, JPO qed jigi mhedded minn dawk li kienu jissejhu l-Angli tal- paci? Minnn dawk li kienu jghidu b'idejhom fuq sidirhom 'Is-sewwa jirbah zgur!' ? Minn dawk li bnew l-istroja taghhom billi jghidu li msieken dejjem kienu vittma tal- vjolenza f'pajjizna? Mela dawn ta hekk? Leee Ma tarax!
Ms.D. Galea
Jul 5th 2012, 21:41
Is not this acceptance of free security from the PL one hell of a public case of blatant COLLUSION?
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 21:26
jOSEPH cAMILLERI: Ghalxejn qed tipprova tnessi T-THEDDID TA' VJOLENZA li qeghdin isiru ILLUM - mhux 30 jew 40 sena ilu- lil zewg deputati taghkhom stess 1
Ara f'hiex giebtuh lil partit tat-taparsi RELIGIO ET PATRIA !
Gianninu Saliba
Jul 5th 2012, 19:45
Joseph, it this how you want to buy votes? Jeffrey, after Richard, is it Dr. Borg Olivier that you are after now? Why are you trying to imply that Dr. Borg Olivier is not prepared to help. Whoever is threatening Dr. Pullicino Orlando's family deserves to be caught and prosecuted; full stop. However, why is he expecting the PN to help him, when they did and thanks to Richard Cachia Caruana he obtained over 5,000 votes, he said thank you. We all know how he showed his gratitude: (a) He went behind the PM's back to present a private member's bill for divorce, even though that being a Christian Democratic Party, the PN, in principle is against divorce (b) he must have told his partner how he intends to vote with regards to Mr. Cachia Caruana and in all probability his partner acted as wikileaks to her old friend (c) He surprised everybody except the MLP by voting against a true gentleman to obtained for Malta one billion euros. Joseph, do you know how many zeros there are in a billion?
GL Calleja
Jul 5th 2012, 17:33
Give them enough rope and they will surely hang themselves at the end. Never fails.
carmelo pace
Jul 5th 2012, 17:31
How stupid and naive some people are to beleive that JPO AND HIS FAMILY ( OR HIS FUTURE WIFE FAMILY )are being threatened,if somebody really wanted to harm someone,he will carry out his threat telling his intended victim.full stop
Oliver Grech
Jul 5th 2012, 17:14
Why doesn't the MLP open a new company...Labour Security Services Limited. Afterall their history shows well how good they are to offer security services. Well JPO knows too as he himself was beaten up...or at least that's what he said to Alfred Sant in 2008 when the latter was accusing him (and Joseph muscat was with Alfred Sant back then...quite a u-turn by Muscat...or else quite of an opportunist person).
pat muscat
Jul 5th 2012, 16:50
Kif,' il-puliti tal-PN' jheddu li xi hadd? Ma tarax hi, din qlajja Laburista!!
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 17:22
... sa f'lahar rajt id-dawl!!
Joe Tabone
Jul 5th 2012, 17:46
Pat,
Xi hlew, Michelle cemplet lil Carmen, hbieb kbar kumbinazzjoni!!
Edmond Micallef
Jul 5th 2012, 16:34
PNs true colours are finally exposed in the open after so many years behind closed doors and the peoples backs.
Joe Tabone
Jul 5th 2012, 16:26
"The offer was made by Michelle Muscat, the wife of Opposition Leader Joseph Muscat, an “old friend” of Dr Pullicino Orlando’s partner Carmen Ciantar, a Labour activist"
Who is accusing who with collusion???
Oliver Grech
Jul 5th 2012, 17:15
Well said.
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 5th 2012, 16:06
@ j brincat
Don’t you know anything about what is going on around you? Probably the answer is NO, as all you can contribute to these pages are only QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You never answer people back.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 21:04
Angelo, ruhi, allura INT taf x'qieghed jigri fil-PL ??? Il-PL illum huwa xempju ta' ghaqda li QATT ma kellkhom bhala f'GonziPN !!!!
Joe Scerri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:00
I scratched your back, now you scratch mine.
Martha Zerafa
Jul 5th 2012, 19:19
My thoughts exactly.
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 5th 2012, 15:56
@ Malcolm Farrugia
You forgot to mention the TUGS (lejburisti) and POLICE together against the Maltese people at tal-BARRANI - maybe those days will haunt us once again, who knows?
Poor guy, you just happened to remebered only "tal-gakketta l'blu"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mario Scicluna
Jul 5th 2012, 17:14
And yet, after the 1987 election, your PN promoted them!!!!!
Mr Colin Schembri
Jul 5th 2012, 17:25
tal-barrani!! pfff 25 sena ilu...l-imnarja 30 sena ilhu...possibli li l-pn mhux jinduna li qed idejjaq anke lil min dejjem appogjah bil-passat u passat u passat u biza u biza u biza
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 5th 2012, 15:50
@ Peppi Borg
"The movement built by Joseph Muscat" - Who belongs to this movement besides the partit lejburista itself and of course the gwu?
"fights arguments" what arguments - the downfall of GONZIPN (as per Adrian Vassallo)
"it stands by its principles" Some examples of what the principles (sic) are will be appreciated.
"that's how politics should be done" - meaning vendictive politics.
stephen mifsud
Jul 5th 2012, 15:40
stay strong in your convictions
Joseph Scicluna
Jul 5th 2012, 15:33
Ghamilt hajtek kobba mhabbla w issa waqajt fli-skip!
M. Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 15:21
First of all... if anyone threatens anyone, may they know that no politician, will defend him/her if he is caught. No politician in his right mind would support anyone who threatens anyone, so whoever is threating should desist because he is a fool.
Secondly, if someone is providing security services free of charge, then my belief in human nature has to be reassessed as I thought saints are no longer with us. I always thought that someone always wants something in return for a favour if the is free!
As to hidden Agenda, may everyone know that the Maltese saying.. iż-żejt jitla f'wiċċ l-ilma... although an old saying still hold true so unless whoever it is wishes immortally as a manipulator, then be truthful and stop playing games. Life is too short to waste. People are not stupid any more and we are fed up of being treated as such.
Have a nice life all!
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:07
Most of us are having a nice life because we have friends who will do things for us for free. I pity people who are so cynical that when a friends offers to help out they think he/she is doing for something in return. Such people must lead such a lonely life. I feel sad for them.
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 14:54
Seem that suddenly MANY have hit the hyper space today!
Is this some new command?
(jb)
Alfred Fenech
Jul 5th 2012, 15:33
Another PLUS for PL. His days of reckoning is close. There will be many surprises next
election..
Peppi Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 14:50
PL does not fight personal battles. The movement bulit by Joseph Muscat fights arguments, it stands by its principles. That's how politics should be done!
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 14:48
@Saviour Aquilina
"IL Huta TINTEN. Who knows why JPO vote with PL !!!!!!!!!"
AND do you have ANY explaination?
We are waiting!
(jb)
Saviour Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 15:25
For L-ilma jitla fill wic sur J Brincat, or other wish ask JPO why. Till now no one can see what have in the other hand.
John Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 14:47
Police protection is not round the Clock Why discriminate There at least 2 other people having Police Protection on a 24 hrs basis I am not referring to the PM or the President
Peppi Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 14:47
I didn't know that there are also individuals in the PN who knows how to threat others! Are we going to see the blue jacket folks uniting again in defence for the party? Who and where are the Christian democrats?
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 14:46
@Joseph Aquilina
"If I where JPO I would be scared from any security help provided by PL since we all know how would gain from any damage done to his person!! "
Please explain yourself better, dear Sir!
(jb)
Saviour Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 15:27
You are a person Mr J Brincat that always need Explanation?? Why don`t you ask J Muscat or JPO. They I think they tell you Mr Brincat.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 16:31
@j brincat
PN would be the last to benefit from any attack to JPO, JPO knows it, PL knows it. The truth is that while PN is busy running this country, PL is busy running their little soap opera; where the wife of the "leeeaaadddeeerrr" makes her hubby find security for the boyfriend of her childhood friend ... umbad il PN partit tal hbieb!! iddahaqx!!
Malcolm Farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 14:42
It seems that the days of "tal-gakketta l'blu" aren't over yet........scaremongering at its best or should I say at it's worst!
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 14:42
@Joseph Aquilina
""Ejjew Indahqu" .
Is it in the same way that you are trying to be funny but doesn't seem that you have in fact succeeded!
So, please try another!
(jb)
(jb)
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 14:34
@Joseph Aquilina
".. and btw? it is clear that PL has realized its not good for politics and has stopped altogether from being a political party!"
Can you please, dear kind Sir, be a little more specific so that someone can answer you accordingly?
But I don't think we will have a reply!
(jb)
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 14:31
Whoever would have thought that in this 'day and age' these things ARE still happening?
Wasn't violence (as this is tantamount to such) supposed to be a thing of the DISTANT past? Doesn't seem so, no?
(jb)
J Busuttil
Jul 5th 2012, 14:26
All had a buzz at work ( PN and PL ) when we read the article this morning. JPO you have really become a joke and the bloggers who are commenting mantkomx taghmlu qedt jaddi lill-pajjiz passata ,and now the leader of the opposition’s wife has her finger in the pie. Veru Miskina. How come it is me who has to bring up the subject about say JPO, Franco Debono etc when no one out there talks about the.
Sarah Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 13:55
Has the Partit Laburista approved the use of their own funds to protect a PN MP????
daniel farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 15:38
read the article again please!
Lawrence Fenech
Jul 5th 2012, 13:51
Look at the pitiful state Gonzi has brought his party into. Each day it's getting worse and the party going into fragments.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 15:31
Lawrence Fenech: Haven't you read the report before commenting ? The PL explained tyhat providing security to JPO's family is not costing the party anything.
Kenneth Williams
Jul 5th 2012, 13:49
JPO you must publicly say that we are WORST THAN THE 80's.
Henry S Pace
Jul 5th 2012, 13:46
How come that s Security Firm mgive its service for free?
From where does this Firm get the money to pay its employees. Who knows , perhaps they give such service for free. HA HA HA, what a joke.
Trying to take people for a good ride.. Such people are not credible at all.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:11
Maybe you should ask dr Gonzi this question next time he is taking questions fom the public. After all, the security firm provides free service to the NP.
Joseph Sammut
Jul 5th 2012, 13:41
Could these threats against JPO and his family be a spin?
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 15:33
Joseph Sammut: Would you enjoy having a security following you wherever you go, just for fun ??????
Joseph Sammut
Jul 5th 2012, 19:32
@ Eddie: of course not. But that has nothing to do with my question.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 21:09
Joseph SammutMela lanqas taf xi ktibt ? Meta ghidt " could these threats against JPO and his family be a spin", kont qed tipprova ddahhal id-dubju li JPO u l-familja tieghi IVVINTAW storja ! Hekk tfisser il-kelma " spin "! Ghalhekk jien ghidtlek li HADD ma joqghod jivvinta storja falza biex ikollu security mieghu il-hin kollu !! Int stess ammettejt u qbilt mieghi !
Aqra sewwa x'tikteb, habib !
Thomas Mifsud
Jul 5th 2012, 13:36
Ara x'inhu l-Partit Nazzjonalista. Jitfgħu stampa ħażina fuq il-Partit Laburista u fil-verita, minn taħt, il-Partit Nazzjonalista huwa dak li veru trid tibża minnu.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:11
Meta niftakar kif kissru lil Harry Vassallo, naqbel mieghek 100%.
Adrian Gouder
Jul 5th 2012, 13:30
First Labour tickled our curiosity,
Then they verged on insulting our intelligence,
Next they treated us as though we're stupid,
Now they seem to think we are a people made of gullible morons.
May I remind all (including Labour) that it is Labour that have a reputation for being violent.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 15:42
Adrian Gopuder: You said it " Labour that have a REPUTAION............." ! Reputations are the result of what OTHER PEOPLE may say about someone . Such "reputations" can also be the result of spin or exagerated stories, especially when politics is involved !
In Maltese we have the saying: " JITFGHU IL-GEBLA U JAHBU IDEJHOM " !!! As well as " GHATINI L-FAMA U ITFANI L-BAHAR " !!! Meditate Adrian, meditate !
Mr Emanuel Farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 13:28
"The Labour Party has provided Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando with round-the-clock private security following a series of “credible” threats against his family".
It is very important that one can notice the following: The Labour Party said today that Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando was continuing to "lie" in the Mistra case. The party referred to Dr Pullicino Orlando's second post in timesofmalta.com last Sunday (under the story MLP asks Gonzi, Pullicino Orlando, to explain timesofmalta.com comment) where he said that it was not true that before the general election he had denied knowledge of the Mistra project. Facts which emerged after the election confirmed that Dr Pullicino Orlando was actually the prime mover behind the project and, according to media reports, had made pressure for the development permits to be issued, the MLP said.
Emanuel Farrugia former Executive Secretary Mtarfa Local Council
Joe Vella
Jul 5th 2012, 13:25
How Sweet.
Antoine Vella
Jul 5th 2012, 13:19
Is this a case of setting a thief to catch a thief?
D Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 13:15
Providing services 'free of charge'.....whilst invariably creating at least a percieved obligation and expectancy....is nonetheless a VATABLE transaction, and all the paladins of righteousness, including obviously the PN and PL should know that.
Same goes for all the contractors who provided 'free' work and supplies to build both parties' HQs
Maybe the VAT department may finally deem it fit to have a look - for equity's sake!
m. borg (slm)
Jul 5th 2012, 13:11
To all the gonzipn ice-cream enthusiasts, PL is offering one of its members and her family protection, now if it happens that a nationalists is indirectly involved good luck to him.
So stop trying to play the fools or would you shut up only after something serious happens.
Don't forget Karen Grech the politically motivated murder victim. Some people go to unimaginable lenghts when their source of income may be endangered.
Ms.D. Galea
Jul 5th 2012, 13:02
Anyone reading this article is bound to ask wether the PL is also providing similar security to Dr Debono and Mr Mugliette.
The people following this Silly Season Panto demand to know.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:14
Use your brains and realise that the ecurity was offered by the Lp to JPO's partner. Do Mr Mugilette or Dr FD have partner/wife affiliated to the LP? Please think befiore throwing mud as otherwise you make a fool of yourself.
Ms.D. Galea
Jul 5th 2012, 21:38
@Mr Camilleri;
1. Sarcasm and tongue in cheek seems to be lost on the likes of you.
2. Did it occur to you that providing a security service is also a very efficient way of keeping tabs on one.?
Francis Attard
Jul 5th 2012, 13:01
Sewwa jghidu illi qatt m'hu tard wisq biex titghallem. Fi xjuhiti qieghed nirrejalizza illi mhux minnhu dak li jghidu illi "Hadd ma jaghmel xejn ghal xejn".
Mr Ernest Vella
Jul 5th 2012, 13:00
Threats are always wrong and are to be condemened...even if given to this MP who say's one thing before the election and do otherwise afterwards
Anthony Arpa
Jul 5th 2012, 13:00
Jien din ta li jofrulek Security nara very tad Dahq .... Min irriedek jaf fejn isiebek .... Tajd kellhu Security tajba Aldo Moro u ohrajn bhalu .... imma min kien ghassa ta Aldo Moro sabu ukoll ....
Steve Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 12:56
this is getting better then the EURO 2012...politics in Malta is so entertaining :)
Joseph Micallef
Jul 5th 2012, 12:48
Dr. Pullicino Orlando, keep strong and act the way you believe in! These people have lost any sense of decency. We are witnessing the roots of the PN - fascism and nazism at its worst!!! Prosit to the PL for understanding the real needs before party politics, this is the way political parties should do... what a difference from the arrogance of GonziPN.
Nenu Galea
Jul 5th 2012, 20:03
Mr.Micallef you are correct and I agree with you 100% +
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 5th 2012, 12:42
@ Roberta Sciberras @ M Grima
Don't you understand basic English? My point is exactly what I said.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 12:34
... and btw? it is clear that PL has realized its not good for politics and has stopped altogether from being a political party! ... Now they are going to apply to have TV programs on TVM instead of Where's Everybody ... the name of the program will be "Ejjew Indahqu" ... Joseph Muscat "il-leeeaaadddeeerrr" will be the presenter ... all others will have a role on the program!!
George Azzopardi
Jul 5th 2012, 12:50
it-tajjeb kulhadd jaf jarah hux ...
daniel farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 12:52
minhiex cert min qieghed idahhaq jien ghax sa fejn naf jien l ahbarjiet dejjem mimlijin bl inkwiet, theatrini u u-turns gewwa l PN!
M Cassar
Jul 5th 2012, 12:52
Mr Aquilina....ghandi dubbju min vera qed idahhaq fil-pajjiz.
M Cassar
Jul 5th 2012, 12:54
Ta Gonzi PN ilhom idahhqu 25 sena...imma issa donnhom waslu sabiex jalqu dan id-dramm bil-kbir....Dramm li se nibqghu niftakruh fl-istorja ta Malta:) Gonzi PN u l-Klikka ta madawaru:)
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 13:02
Instead of Where's Everybody? GREAT! A breath of fresh air to replace the mouldy outdated forumulae used by WE -it's time to say goodbye - actually they outlasted their stay by about ten years!
Mr leo attard
Jul 5th 2012, 14:08
WHAT'S A JOKE, mR aQUILINA, IS MALTESE POLITICS IN GENERAL. with all due respect to all parties, take for example, the RCC reignation --- I am not going to get into the fairness or unfairness of the issue --- but the I am aghast reaction, the setting a precedent, the-what-will-become-of-other ministers attitude === Let#s remember that even American presidents, the most powerful man on earth, have been forced to resign (Clinton, a good president, got close to being impeached as well).... American govt business went on as usual. It's here in Malta that we act like spoilt children and cannot accept reality... In the USA one hardly realizes there's an election on election day...In Malta it seems election day every day
robert pace
Jul 5th 2012, 14:42
U inti tkun il purcinell siehbi!! Tixraqlek tassew...
l vella
Jul 5th 2012, 14:54
Dont think we need a TV programme to laugh........................gonzi is doing a marvelous job already :)
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 16:37
@All PL Supporters
The negative comments just shows how my above comment depicts reality!! Rather then concentrating on politics now we have the leader of the opposition asked by his wife to find security for the boyfriend of her friend!! All this after the police already is giving security to JPO!! if this is not a soap opera then I can't understand what it is ... for sure miles away from serious politics!!!
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 12:31
If I where JPO I would be scared from any security help provided by PL since we all know how would gain from any damage done to his person!! Apart from that, the article shows what a joke of an open comic JPO+PL have become ... It's even worse then Santa Barabara!!
Joseph Arpa
Jul 5th 2012, 13:20
the real joke Maestro Aquilina is the back stabbing going on in the PN party......now that should be on tv....prime time!!!
Wenzu Cole
Jul 5th 2012, 14:56
This is not a matter to joke about. I want to see what you would do if you had someone threatening your loved ones.
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 16:40
@Wenzu Cole
Did you read the part where the police where already offering security to JPO! Then for what did we need the wife to request the leader find security for the boyfriend of her friend? This is just another chapter in the soap opera called PL!! Personally I hope nothing happens to JPO because even though he is clearly a bluffer, 25 years under a nationalist government has thought me that violence is never the answer!!
Mrs Louise Calleja
Jul 5th 2012, 12:30
My goodness - what other help does he expect? He's got the police, he's got Mr Ciangura benefactor supreme! Still not enough?
Saviour Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 12:27
IL Huta TINTEN. Who knows why JPO vote with PL !!!!!!!!!
Luke Scicluna
Jul 5th 2012, 12:20
wise move, considering the perky history the pn has. ha naraw nergawx naqaw ghall hnizrijiet li saru fil passat!!
Joseph Aquilina
Jul 5th 2012, 12:51
Perky history of PN? either you are too young to remember, or else, on purpose - and even worse - prefer to destroy history from what it was; full of violence from those who supported PL!!!
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20091011/local/unfaded-memories-of-black-monday.277047
Joe Vella
Jul 5th 2012, 13:34
Luke, dawn il hnizrijiet li qieghed tirreferi ghailhom inti saru taht Gvern Laburista. dawn saru ghax Gvern Laburista mhux talli jinkarigijhom, imma ghanki kien jipprotteta lil dawk li kienu iwwetqu dawn il hnizrijiet.
Joseph Scicluna
Jul 5th 2012, 14:47
ha naraw nergawx naqaw ghall hnizrijiet li saru fil passat!!
TAHT IL-LEJBER
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 15:49
Joseph Aquilina: Spjega ftit kif dawk li kienu involuti fil-"Frame-Ups" tajtuhom promotion malli l-PN rebah il-gvern fin-1987 !!!!!!!!!!
David Smith
Jul 5th 2012, 12:18
This is serious business indeed. I don't mean the threats on JPO (I don't believe these should be taken seriously, as probably they are nothing but shallow attempts to intimidate him) - very similar to Court bomb hoaxes, indtended to disrupt, but hoaxes nonethless.
What is indeed serious is the following:
(i) the need for the PL to resort to such gimmicks and theatricals - how does the PL expect an intelligent population to take it seriously?
(ii) the fact that a private security firm provides services to the PL for free. In the interests of transparency and good governance, the name of this security firm should be given immediately.
Noel Damato
Jul 5th 2012, 12:31
Please note that according to the script says:For personal security he usually engages the security agency of Stephen Ciangura, “a personal friend”, who also provides the PN with security on a regular basis. and not for the PL Mr smith
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 13:05
David Smith, in your hurry to make the PL look bad, you misread- see your point (ii) above. The text above says free services are render to the PN - not the PL. So, please come back and tell us that you are still insisting that "In the interests of transparency and good governance, the name of this security firm should be given immediately". if you do not, we can consider any further comment from you as being just totally and utterly politically biased.
R. Cilia
Jul 5th 2012, 14:14
(ii) the fact that a private security firm provides services to the PL for free. In the interests of transparency and good governance, the name of this security firm should be given immediately.
David Smith, read Noel Damato's comment.Is it still serious now?
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 14:23
David Smith: HOw can you tell that the threats JPO received are not serious Have you been listening in on JPO's mobile or phone calls ??
What you and fellow GonziPN commentators are doing, is to try and play down the fact that threats of physical violence are being made by GonziPN supporters !
Tonio Farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 12:00
PL is busy protecting JPO..... Who will protect US from JPO????
M Cassar
Jul 5th 2012, 13:07
il-problema mhux JPO izda Gonzi PN u l-klikka tieghu.... li bi flus il-poplu qed jithallsu pagi kbar certa nies...u li bihom qed jirredikolaw il-Parlament Malti u lilna c-cittadini. Ibza minn min jahbi u mhux minn min qed juri l-izballji. Qed nghixu fi stat fejn min jipprova jkun jaf is-sewwa jew irid jaqdi dmiru sew jigi penalizzat izda min imur kontra l-oghla istituzzjoni fil-pajjiz, u konta l-kostituzzjoni ta' pajjizjna...jigi moghti l-glorja. Dan Dittatorjat bil Pulit...Dittatorjat Modern. Iz-zejt tiela f'wicc l-ilma...ara naqa l-qrati u l-gustizzja maltija fejn sejra. Hares harsa madwarek u ara li ligijiet li jmissu s-sovranita taghna l-maltin jittiehdu mill parlament u mhux bil mohbi. Ftakar li ahna pajjiz sovran...u nies li jridu jiehdu decizjonijiet ghalina huma l-MP's li tellghajna bil vot taghna.
Antoine Vella
Jul 5th 2012, 13:09
So, who's protecting him? Ex-marmalja thugs, by any chance?
Antoine Vella
Jul 5th 2012, 13:10
Even more to the point, who will protect us from the PL?
Lino Fava
Jul 5th 2012, 14:52
We want to be protected from your GonziPN Regime. From people who use their governmental jobs only to get rich. From those who want to stay in power at all cost. From those who goes in parliament and whole heartedly vote against the people needs. From those who give presents on elections days and forget you when they get in power.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:18
Antoine Vella: JPo is also being protected by the Police and by the same security firm that offers its services for free to GonziPN. Are you calling these 'ex-marmalja thugs"? What has happened to you - you used to be such a fanatic of GonziPN? Are you seeing the deep dark clouds on the horizon that says goodbye to Gonzi PN and its dear Leader?
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 21:15
JEKK GONZIPN MA JIPPROTEGIX LILL- JPO KIF JIPPROTEGI LIL RCC U DAPHNE, IKUN IFISSER LI HALLA L-PASSJONI POLITIKA KONTRA DEPUTAT TIEGHU STESS, TIGRI BIH !
AHSEB U ARA KEMM LEST JIPPROTEGI LIL- LABURISTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 21:20
Antoine VElla: Int li dejjem mohhok biex issemmi l-vjolenza ta' 30 u 40 sena ilu - u ssemmi biss dak li tahseb li jaqbillek - kif ma tisthix tikteb ILLUM meta ZEWG DEPUTATI TAGHKHOM STESS, QEGHDIN JIDDIKJARAW LI QEGHDIN JIGU MHEDDA HUMA U L-FAMILJI TAGHHOM ???
MHUX SE TGHID LI DAN IT-THEDDID GEJ MILL-LABURISTI WKOLL, HUX ?????
GL Calleja
Jul 5th 2012, 11:58
What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
P BORG
Jul 5th 2012, 11:47
.... DRAMA QUEEN ... TILL THE END....
Joe Fenech
Jul 5th 2012, 11:56
Say that to a Sicilian judge! This is a mafia state, do you get it? It's just more subtle and on a smaller scale.
Paul Smith
Jul 5th 2012, 12:00
You are one of those who are threatening him?
Tonio Farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 12:02
totally agree!
GL Calleja
Jul 5th 2012, 12:03
May I remind the good Doctor that there is no such thing as "free" and that is a fact of life.
P BORG
Jul 5th 2012, 13:48
@ Joe Fenech
All that I can say is that everyone is happy to live in his small world .... and certain people are most happy to be in the limelight..... AT ALL COSTS.....(maybe good PR for a forthcoming "sweet" event)
@ Paul Smith
"...threatening him?" ..... ".... threatening him?" not really wouldn't even dare but just to quote someone else I wouldn't attack him; I am just pitying him.
Mario Pace
Jul 5th 2012, 11:46
"He provides his services to the PN free of charge". Is this not party financing? Does anyone believe that this security company is not getting any payback with interest in return? The sooner the party financing law is enacted the better.
Angelo Vassallo
Jul 5th 2012, 11:43
The next offer that michelle muscat, the wife of "dear leader" joseph muscat, an “old friend” of jpo ’s partner carmen ciantar, a lejburista activist will be to run for the election on the pl ticket.
Roberta Sciberras
Jul 5th 2012, 11:59
And your point is?
M Grima
Jul 5th 2012, 12:04
So what?
sharon camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 13:43
so????? What's wrong with that?????
A Dimech
Jul 5th 2012, 14:26
BOOH?!!!
she has every right to be a candidate if she wants to. Than it is up tp the Maltese to elect her or not.
Nothing wrong with this
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 14:56
What's round accordingly to you?
(jb)
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:20
Dear Angelo, as an avid follower of GionziPN, you would have noticed how Mrs Kate Gonzi is always following your dear Leader, sometimes even getting involved in political situations (remember the famous visit to Franco debono's house?), amijg speeches, etc. So what are you on about? it always amazes me how one can imagine bad things for the opposite side without seeing even small fraction of things on their side.
V Mercieca
Jul 5th 2012, 11:41
Some are seeing this as hypocrisy. In a situation where there is a threat to life, I would defend even my worse enemy. Life is precious.
Tonio Farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 12:09
life is precious... agreed.
I will always condemn violence, till the last of my breath!
People cannot play with fire and mess with other peoples' life for a long period of time, and expect zero consequences. For what's been happening, i think that so far we have proven to be pretty civilised.
A Trapani
Jul 5th 2012, 15:16
V.Mercieca, agreed, however, it does not justify that the labour party get involved in provision of private security to a PN MP. This is a joke. If there is any treat, this should be reported to the police and they will tackle the issue. It is a matter of personal security and public safety hence a political party should not get involved.... besides this is another mistake by the LP who is confirming to all that it is in full support to PN rebels with close LP links (their spouses). If the PL was wise enough, it should better detach itself from these personal issues between PN MPs.
E. Azzopardi
Jul 5th 2012, 11:38
Well, we were promised a "new way of doing politics". Here it is!!. I feel ashamed of what is happening with our politics. Really ashamed.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 5th 2012, 11:21
The PL would do anything to approach a balance on their unenviable and indelible record of violence!
With JPO I thought I had seen the pinnacle of morons - "allegedly" (but improbably) there are more serious cases of morons who threaten their ilk.
Paul Smith
Jul 5th 2012, 12:01
Seems to me that we now know where all violence came from now!
Joseph Scicluna
Jul 5th 2012, 14:50
@ paul smith.
yes from the labour.
Alfred Vassallo
Jul 5th 2012, 20:12
Now the mask FINALLY has been ripped off from the pn. You can see for yourself gentleman what the pn stands for.
VV Bartolo
Jul 5th 2012, 11:21
kullhadd isemmi l-passat!! ghax fil-passat hekk u fil-passat hekk! fil-passat ukoll il-mara ma ' kellhiex bzonn tohrog tahdem u llum ikollha tohrog trid u ma tridx ghax b'paga wahda ma nistghux inlahhqu mall-hajja. ghajjiena u mhijiex!! allura se nibqghu sejrin hekk? immorru lura fiz-zmien. ahna llum qed nghixu u mhux il-bierah!!
M Cassar
Jul 5th 2012, 12:06
ma ghandniex nibqghu kkakmati mal passat... b'hekk biss jista jsir il-progress, billi naraw kif anke nghinu lil xulxin mhux ax ahmar jew blu...dik mentalita konservattiva u muffata. L-imhabba lejn il-proxxmu ghanda tkun dejjem u mhux x'hin issir xi maratona ta gbir ghall karita biss.
vella m
Jul 5th 2012, 11:14
JPO,arm yourself well and good,it is your right and duty to self defence and to protect your family,burn the first subhuman that tries to harm you,I wish you all the luck in the world.Kurag!
Joseph Sammut
Jul 5th 2012, 11:14
Did I read right: a going concern, in this case a security firm, offers its services for free to parliamentarians, parties, etc.?
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:22
This is Malta - mhux kullhadd irid jiekol?
Charles Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 11:13
@Pat Hobson Are you for real ?
John Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 11:07
I wonder whether Michelle has also intervened so that Super One no longer attacks JPO about the mistra case. We have not heard anything on one about the Jesmond Mugliette tender for the bridge and his private firm working for it... or about the water turned into whisky case involving John Dalli's brother. is there something in common we are missing? One not attacking these people anymore?
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 16:23
Does Kate Gonzi interfere with PBS?
Kevin Wain
Jul 5th 2012, 11:05
What hypocrisy!!!! Is this the same person MLP had attacked during the last elections on the Mistra issue? Are they so spineless as to perceive him as close to being one of them after all that? I sometimes fail to understand politicians, but this goes beyond any sense of decency from PL. Their villain becoming a hero, because it suites them best. It seems that we are in for five years of opportunism, if PL win the next elections.
Carmel Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 11:27
You have already been through so many years of opportunism yet your political filters did not let you see through it. We have had Dr. Gonzi harping one occasion on another about solidarity with illegal immigrants. Looks like Gonzipn is more concerned with protecting and extending help to illegal immigrants than ensure the safety of the Maltese public. The safety of every citizen irrespective of colour or creed has been and still is of paramount importance to Labour. Labour is simply putting to practice what it teaches. Looks like even here Gonzipn has so much to learn from Labour.
What happened to the Christian values Dr. Gonzi et all harped about in the not too distant past? Why should in democratic Malta feel so insecure under Gonzipn?? Are these the credentials the party is exhibiting for the electorate to judge it on in the next election?
David Caruana
Jul 5th 2012, 11:37
The same can be said for PN for whome JPO was the hero (literally) in the last election but now he's the 'folk devil' of the Nationalists.
Paul@ Micallef
Jul 5th 2012, 11:38
You must have a very short memory Mr Wain. For the PN Dom Mintoff was and still is the devil in disguise. But when the rift between him and Dr Sant came out in the open, they (the PN) not only gave him (Mr Mintoff) air time on the radio and Net TV but gave him unconditional support till the very end, that is when the Prime Minister Sant was forced to announce the election 3 years ahead of time. Hypocrisy?
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 11:47
Kevin Wain: Qisek qed tiehu pjacir li JPO u l-familja tieghu qeghdin jigu mhedda ! U qieghed tinkwieta li l-PL qieghed juri BIL-PROVI li fejn tidhol il-vjolenza il-PL mhux biss jikkundannaha izda ofra l-.ghajnuna lil min kien ieghed jigi mhedded !
Deo Catania
Jul 5th 2012, 11:47
Either learn to understand what you read or else shut up Kevin Wain, lies will lead you nowhere, just ask Gonzi about it!!!!!!!
N Chetcuti
Jul 5th 2012, 11:49
Does it bother you to see people help others in need? After all we are all human beings no matter from which side of the coin we come from. I'm sure that Michelle would help anyone even you ,Kevin Wain if you are ever in need.
Kevin Wain
Jul 5th 2012, 13:13
Let me begin with Carmel Zammit, I honestly cannot see the connection between JPO's protection and the immigrants. But anyhow this is a good enough proof of how right AD's Dr. Arnold Cassola is on PL appealing to far-right elements, some sound more like Fascists than true liberals or progressives or even socialist.
I do agree 100% with David Caruana that the same could be said of PN on JPO. It was dishonest then and will always remain so. The same goes with what Paul Micallef is saying here. Mintoff was appalling then as he always was in the past and so were PN on that occasion. Granted, Alfred Sant was unfairly treated by both!!
Mr. Privitera, I do not think that it is a good thing that JPO is threatened, but still I believe that there is the police force that JPO himself has praised for its work, PL needn't become a security firm or benefactor, this stinks of opportunism (I will reiterate what I have said).
And, now we are also making our political leaders and their wives saints, as Mr. Chetcuti seems to be doing. That is the big problem with Malta. Our leaders become gods then traitors never in between. We are a country of extremes. Politicians are humans and they do err like all of us and for that reason should be subjected to criticism.
Joseph Camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 14:12
@CNI EDDIE PRIVITERA
U SE NIKTEB CAPITALS BHAL MA TAGHMEL BHAS SOLTU INT, IMMA MID DEHERA IRREALIZZAJT JEW XI HADD FIL LABOUR PARTY QALLEK BIEX MA TIBQAX TIKTEB FIL CAPITALS, ALLURA SE NEQLEB GHAN NORMAL...
Dear CNI Eddie Privitera... Before the rebellion Prime Minister Mintoff took over, Malta was a peace, there was no political hate etc... this is all instigated by Labour, and amplified by Labour!!!
YOU CAN TALK! SHAME ON YOU!
M. Spiteri
Jul 5th 2012, 11:02
Besides what JPO has done, which is good for some people and bad for others, it is a complete SHAME that in a democratic country in 2012, he is receiving threats. This is a rotten society we are living in. very shameful
M Grima
Jul 5th 2012, 11:38
This is really no news. From as far as I can remember anything which has to do with the PN is rotten.
John Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 11:01
Ask Dr Jo Micallef Stafrace .. well you don't have to ask because he wrote it. When he decided to resign from minister (and he never said why to this very day), Dom Mintoff told him he could not guarantee his security.
Now we have a government that provides police security.. but Labour think their security is better than police protection. Ah well... is show what we will be in for!
V Mercieca
Jul 5th 2012, 11:44
unfortunately many do not trust the police, and I am one of them
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 11:49
John Borg . JPO said that police protection is not being offered around the clock ! But RCC and Daphne receive such security round-the-clock, if I am not mistaken !
N Chetcuti
Jul 5th 2012, 11:53
Whilst we're on it why don't you ask Mr Baldacchino?
Mrs Maria Rosaria Brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 11:53
I recommand you to read what was written in the article carefully cos JPO said that the police are not giving him all round protection. Well now at least not only the labour activists are violant as PN always say. Its not true that Malta is a democratic country.
A Trapani
Jul 5th 2012, 15:21
V Mercieca... you dont trust the police force and trust a private security company ? not a good sign
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Jul 5th 2012, 10:54
This has become a country of threats,bullying and blackmailing : you either allow those who violate the law to do what their sick minds dictate or else you are showered with blackmails, threats or created false law suits to make all appear that things are being done under the wings of see-through justice. MALTA has become the real HOT HELL.
W Azzopardi
Jul 5th 2012, 11:14
Dear Dr Bezzina at first I was perplexed, but then I understood you were speaking about the seventies and eighties.
C. Sammut
Jul 5th 2012, 12:15
I certainly agree with you here Dr Bezzina regardless of whoever tries to ridicule your statement.
Anthony Falzon
Jul 5th 2012, 16:03
SURELY YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT THE 80'S WHEN THE M.L.P. WAS IN GOVERNMENT.
Marianne Grech
Jul 5th 2012, 10:52
U Franco Debono u Jesmond Mugliett ma haqqhomx servizz bhal dan, imsieken? U halluna!
M Grima
Jul 5th 2012, 11:40
I really admire your moral and christian values. Keep it up Ms. Grech, maybe someday you can act and speak like a human.
Edgar Apap
Jul 5th 2012, 13:33
I Am Truly Ashamed To Be A Nationalist . How Worse Can The Party Become ? Down With The Conservatives And Up With The Liberals .
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 10:46
@Joe Pavia
"Dr. Gonzi. Kick the three rebbel out of the party. Call an election........"
And do you really believe that GonziPN will heed your advice?
As regards the lowering of W & E bill this will be GonziPN's trump card in the next election. That of 2008 was the revision of the tax bands and which had to come w.e.f. January 2009.
Whether the voters will fall again for the bait remains to be seen!
(jb)
John Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 11:04
We will of course vote labour as we believe that Hoseph Muscat will find 50 million to give back to those who bought a car, even if the courts say otherwise, he will also find money to reduce th eprice of fuel and water and electricity. and believe me, he won't raise any taxes as he will find the money from somewhere. he is very good at that and will find a solution. Trid tkun veru pajhahhu biex temmen lil labour. madwarna kulhadd imkiseer w ahna alla jbierek qeghdin f'recssion, zdiedu l-mobles fl idejn, zdiedu n nies jahdmu u licenzja ta taxi tinbiegh 92,000 ewro. recession mu foot!
Joe Pavia
Jul 5th 2012, 11:06
Mr. Brincat are you living in the real world or in a fantasty world. Do you recount the adverse situations that occured world wide over the past four to five years. if you and your party do not recall than i must say that you and your party are living in a fantasy world.
I Bugeja
Jul 5th 2012, 11:34
John Borg, recession is not about how many mobiles there are it is how much the economy contracts.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 5th 2012, 10:42
The police should have been sufficient to provide any necessary protection to the the family of Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando whose members are prominent in the Labour camp just as much as he is in the NP camp.
I sincerely hope that this round-the-clock private protection is an over-reaction and only a political propaganda stunt.
M Grima
Jul 5th 2012, 11:45
You never cease to amaze Dr. Saliba. So in your opinion we should leave things as they are and hope that nothing serious occurs to JPO and his family. If that happens you would be proven right that this was all a political propaganda stunt. This is just unbelievable coming from a person who should know much better. But, sometimes the obsession to ridicule anything that sounds or smells Labour gets the better of us!!
Patrick Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 12:37
"I sincerely hope that this round-the-clock private protection is an over-reaction and only a political propaganda stunt."
Dr Saliba, first of all it is not round the clock unlike RCC's and Daphne's which you also might consider as "an over-reaction and only a political propaganda stunt."
Mario Scicluna
Jul 5th 2012, 12:46
And who will shoulder the responsability if push comes to shove, Francis Saliba? Are you ready to do it yourself and be accountable if God forbids? Are you aware that even till this very day Onor Franco Debono and other 'prominent figures' have security personnel outside their homes? Or is it that yours and other usual PN apologists vile hatred towards anything PL is blinding you to be reasonable ? Would have expected better from the likes of you.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 5th 2012, 13:37
@ M Grima,today, 11:45
You are totally unfit to speculate what my opinion is because you do not even undserstand what I write in black and white.
No! I do not think that JPO and his family should be left without protection - they should be protected by the police against threats if they are real threats, not political stunts.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 5th 2012, 13:45
@ Patrick Zammit, today at 12:37
"Round the clock" private protection for the JPO family is not my phrase. It is in the very first sentence of this news item. Please check. What is the source of your different version? Are you somehow involved?
Patrick Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 19:00
Dr Saliba
The last sentence of the article ends with JPO insisting that it is not "round the clock". That is "my source".
And my involvement is simply limited to pointing out to you that since you are implying that JPO's protection might be political propaganda or an over reaction, someone else may argue similarly in RCC and Daphne's case.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jul 6th 2012, 11:36
@ Patrick Zammit yesterday at 19:00.
In JPOS's case there is only an allegation is of vague threats that he did not consider serious enough to report to the police.
In the cases of RCC and DCG the violence was real and homicidal in the case of RCC.
Spot the difference.
Maria Vassallo
Jul 5th 2012, 10:41
What great generosity!
Your names are already written in Heaven!
And what about the past?
Did you give private security to the Police Stations
PN Headquarters
Dr. Eddie Fenech Adami's residence in Birkirkara
The Archbishop's Curia
The PN party clubs
et alia?
PL, you are just HYPOCRITES!
Sarah Grech (Zebbug)
Jul 5th 2012, 10:55
Ahseb u ara inthom meta kontu tuzaw is-sagrament tal-qrar biex tumiljaw u zzebbilhu lil min hu Laburist....
Jekk ahna ipokriti inthom x'tissejhu?
Jien nafha r-risposta imma ha nzommha ghalija.
M Cassar
Jul 5th 2012, 10:57
Jekk ghandu bzonn il-protezzjoni jigifieri li l-pajjiz ghadu l-istess wara 25 year under PN Government. It's a shame li ghadhom listess l-affarijiet hux? Dan il-kliem qed tghidu inti stess. U nfakkrek li bhallma kienu tkissru l-kazini tal PN kienu tkissru tal-PL...insejthom il-bombi? insejta lil Karen Grech? insejthom l-armi fid-dar centrali tal-PN? Insejt li mal-pittura tal-Knisja ta'Pinu dahhlu l-armi? Qalbi kullhadd ghandu xi jxomm jekk jgholli ghabtu...izda issa qed nghixu fit 2012...u ridu nharsu l-quddiem u ninbidlu ...ma ghandniex nibqghu kkakmati mal passat... b'hekk biss jista jsir il-progress, billi naraw kif anke nghinu lil xulxin mhux ax ahmar jew blu...dik mentalita konservattiva u muffata. L-imhabba lejn il-proxxmu ghanda tkun dejjem u mhux x'hin issir xi maratona ta gbir ghall karita biss.
Joe Pavia
Jul 5th 2012, 11:08
I cannot agree with you more. They are living in a fantasy world. They have put the past behind them but they will succmb to the past while they will be in the present especially with all the old face of the Mintoff era
Carmel Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 11:39
Your list does not include the innumerable instances of violence performed both physically and mentally on anyone showing the minimal inclination towards Labour. I for one experienced the Gonzipn techniques that brought me on the brink of physical and mental breakdown. So violent were the techniques used on me that I was forced out of work. The violence used on labour supporters dwarfs the instances you listed.
M Grima
Jul 5th 2012, 12:04
I have another list from the past Ms. Vassallo :-
The beating of Tarcisio Mifsud.
The burning of PL party clubs
The murder of Karen Grech
The psychological violence inflicted on all labourites
The burial of Labourites in the infamous 'Mizbla' in collaboration with the Maltese Church.
The jailing of MLP members of Parliament (Patrick Holland, Agatha Barbara, Joe Micallef Stafrace etc..)
The exile of thousands of Labourites to Australia, Canada and USA.
Who are the hypocries?
Joe Pavia
Jul 5th 2012, 10:27
Dr. Gonzi. Kick the three rebbel out of the party. Call an election. And then lets see the magician Muscat perform the miracles he is saying he will perform. Lower gass and fuel and water and electricity lower taxes give more rights to gays etc which they already have. Malta will suffer but if thats what the people want so be it
M Calleja
Jul 5th 2012, 11:31
@ Joe Pavia What you suggest is the easy way out, and Dr. Gonzi will not go for that.
George Cutajar
Jul 5th 2012, 10:24
“I was completely honest with regard to the assistance being given to us thanks to Mrs Muscat. I told Dr Borg Olivier that I would appreciate it if he felt he was in a position to offer any assistance in this respect.
Well at least he was completely honest when it came to the security he was receiving. What with police protection, personal security and that supplied by Labour this guy must have even more protection than Obama.
Obviously JPOS had to make it clear to one and all that the security being offered by his friends in Labour is coming from a person who also offers security free of charge to the PN. What relevance does this have to the matter in question apart from the fact that he tries to imply that he is now above partisan politics?
As for the incitement part JPOS needs to realise that both he and his partner are public persons and one cannot expect that anything they say or do in public cannot be commented on, agreed upon or disagreed upon. Does he expect to go against the Party line and bring down a gentleman in the most infamous of ways and than expect not to be criticsed or asked to resign?
Patrick Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 10:40
He can be criticised and asked to resign but threatening him and his family/partner is a completely different matter altogether and is also a crime.
Or do you also consider them "fair game"?
George Cutajar
Jul 5th 2012, 10:52
@ Patrick Zammit = I fully agree with you. He can and should be criticised and asked to resign - but not threatened - but his family and children should be left out of this mess of his own creation. JPOS and his partner are public figures and should be able t take the heat but other members of their family especially children have nothing to do with what is going on and should be left out, full stop.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 11:22
George Cutajar: Shame on You ! JPO is not only being criticized, as any MP would expectto be criticized, but he and his family ARE BEING VERY SERIOUSLY THREATENED ! The same thing has happened to Dr. Franco Debono and his parents !
M Grima
Jul 5th 2012, 12:10
"As for the incitement part JPOS needs to realise that both he and his partner are public persons and one cannot expect that anything they say or do in public cannot be commented on."
JPOS was only referring to the vile unknown threats he and his family was receiving. I think being a doctor of law, you should know better Dr. Cutajar when it comes to threats.
S. Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 10:14
Ahh, now I understand.Michelle Muscat, who is an old frined of JPO's future wife is worried about her safety. Well and good. No one wants to feel threatened. However, dear Michelle, back in the days we couldn't get protection from the police either as most were involved in your husband's party and one of them sits right next to him in parliament.
We used to be threatened every single day. We used to have truck loads of men coming round our doors with metal bars chanting "ohorgu ja mdejqin". We were a young family back then with 4 children and I would have loved it if KMB would send us private security at our homes.
Pat Hobson
Jul 5th 2012, 11:04
Don't make us laugh! These things happened, no one is denying. But they weren't on a regular basis as you would have us believe. These things happened in the 80's when the PN opposition was boycotting everything under the sun, even parliament. Hope you didn't forget the bombs on the doorsteps of those who co-operated with the MLP govenment!
And by the way, the same can be said from the PN side, especially after some mass meeting. I remember quite clearly after the 1987 elections and even throwing stones at houses. So please spare us!
Martin Busuttil
Jul 5th 2012, 11:19
One other thing.
It seems that have forgotten one other thing.
What about the 'BALAVOSTRI', that fell on their own from the Zebbug PN club, on the PL supporters.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 11:26
S. Zammit: DID YOU EVER OFFICIALLY ASK FOR POLICE PROTECTION TO DR. KMB AND HE REFUSED IT ?
CAN YOU PROVE IT ?? IF YOU CAN I WILL CHECK ON THIS WITH DR. KMB.
Charles Zammit
Jul 5th 2012, 10:12
What an ongoing Farce in our political Maltese life , I should think that an intelligent person not wanting to ride a bus would not get on it and if on it and does not like it get off and not continue arguing with the driver , conductor , inspector and passengers . Poor little rock in the middle of the sea .
C Portelli
Jul 5th 2012, 10:12
now what's next? the only honourable thing you can do is to cross the floor - thats where you belong JPOS
Philip Hili
Jul 5th 2012, 10:37
@ C Portelli.
Mr Portelli, there is no need to cross the floor because he had already did so when voting against the government!!!
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 11:00
Philip Hili isa risqa l elezzjoni daqt terga tibda il propoganda tieghek fuq it times bhall ma kont ghamilt fid divorzzju..... Isma minni jekk tixtieq li terbah xi haga sib hobby ihor loool
j brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 10:09
@Michael Campbell
"Ask yourself, JPO, how many times have you used your position to bully other people?"
Are you referring to the times when JPO stood his ground and stopped the proposed 'simenterija', was against the development in front of St John's Cathedral and pointed out the possible damage to Mnajdra Temples?
(jb)
Paul Giordimaina
Jul 5th 2012, 10:38
Your having a feast jb but your turn will come.
Deo Catania
Jul 5th 2012, 11:58
Paul Giorimania, your useless party is FINISHED.
Ms Rudi Mcbeal
Jul 5th 2012, 10:04
Issa isbah - iddefset Michelle wkoll!
Wahda isbah minn ohra. Tad-dahq u tal-biki fl-istess hin.
What next?
Paul Giordimaina
Jul 5th 2012, 10:39
They use everything for a bit of propoganda.
Ms Rudi Mcbeal
Jul 5th 2012, 11:18
Showy and crass behaviour if you ask me - she should keep a low profile and stop interfering.
I cannot for the life of me imagine Mrs Gonzi doing something similar.
Martin Busuttil
Jul 5th 2012, 11:21
Rudi, did you forget when Kate went to have a coffee with her husband as Franco Debono's home.
On the other hand, wouldn't you help a friend in need?
From the likes of it no, as long as this friend is from the other side of politics.
Eddy Privitera
Jul 5th 2012, 11:33
Rudi McBeal: Naccertak li int lanqas ttoqghod hdejn Michelle ghal karattrru tal-genn li ghandha, u li thobb tghin hafna lil min ikollu xi problema ! Forsi tghidli, int kif taf il-karattru tieghi ? Risposta facli - minn kif ktibt dwar Michelle !!!
Int ukoll, qiegheda tinkwieta li llum ma tistghux tippuntaw subajkhom lejn il-laburisti, ghax il-vjolenza morali u t-theddid ta' vjolenza fizika gejja minn naha ta' GonziPN !
M camilleri
Jul 5th 2012, 11:34
Ms Rudi Mcbeal
U tridu tejdu li intom europej LOL.. Nahseb ahjar iddur dawra mal ewropa u tara in nisa ta kapijiet ix xoghol li jaghmlu ....
Ms Rudi Mcbeal
Jul 5th 2012, 12:16
@M Camilleri
L-Ewropa ili li dortha - mhux dortha biss imma ghixt fiha u ma nieha. Nassigurak li affarijiet tad-dahq, fares u praspar bhal dawn ghadni imkien ma rajt.
@ the rest
As expected. You never disappoint.
Michael Campbell
Jul 5th 2012, 09:50
Threatening someone and their families is wrong, any which way you look at it. It shows what kind of society we live in: primitive, depraved, wild, irresponsible, ignorant and backwards.
On the other hand, what goes round comes around. Vendetta, revenge, payback, backstabbing and other activities of the same ilk are synonymous with the cry baby.
Or should I say cry wolf.
It is only another chapter of the saga to keep in the limelight.
Ask yourself, JPO, how many times have you used your position to bully other people?
How many times did you use your position to harass other people?
How many times have you used your position to make other people's lives hell?
Life is a long journey. In it, you meet people twice: once on your way up and once or your way down.
Make sure you are nice with the first time.
MC
Kenneth Galea
Jul 5th 2012, 09:40
U dan ir-ras kbira min qieghed jahseb li hu????? The country is in a recession and he has even protection from the police. The police should be out on the streets patrolling rather than standing idle by JPO's house.
JPO is another individual who cannot come to terms that his political career is over. He has a lot to lose but it is too late now. Resign from Parliament and make space for others who are loyal to their party. Whoever embarks on a personal vendetta this is what he or she gets. JPO's manipulation and tricks are over, warrab illum qabel ghada. Whether it is PL or PN they should expel rebels from the parties, JPO in this case was elected on the PN ticket and his constituents feel utterly betrayed. This is similar to Dom Mintoff when they insulted him that he was a traitor.
John L Galea
Jul 5th 2012, 10:30
Whoever embarks on a personal vendetta this is what he or she gets. - with this statement you condone the threats and contradict yourself.
M Attard
Jul 5th 2012, 10:33
Prosit tal-kumment. Kemm taf tirraguna hejjj! Basta nehhejt balla minn fuq l-istonku hux?
L-artiklu qieghed jghid li Dr JPO qed jigi mhedded. Ghalija taghmel sens li ghandu jigi protett (kif ghandu jigri ghal kwalunkwe cittadin iehor Malti). Anke kieku r-ragunament tieghek tajjeb, int li abbli m'ghandikx karriera politika ma haqqikx protezzjoni minghand il-pulizija? Ara x'ha tiehu bil-pulizija fit-toroq meta tqis kemm ghandna livell ta' kriminalita` baxxa hawn Malta! Sahansitra fl-ahhar sentenza jghid li l-ghassa m'hix ta' 24 siegha kuljum....
Philip Hili
Jul 5th 2012, 10:44
@ M Attard
M Attard, mhux kulhadd jista' jghid li qieghed ikun mhedded?
Tiftakar meta hu u varist qalu li qeghdin jigu insultati fuq il-mobile? Provi????
U Hallina mister.!!! Ma hemmx fejn tinzel izjed. Kieku kont ta' l-affari tieghek, lanqas kieku kien veru ma jmissek accettajt dan li gie rrapurtat. Issa ahjar ghax dahlet "the first lady" fin-nofs ukoll!!!
Min imissu issa???
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 10:57
Sur Kenneth Galea, Proset ghalik kemm inti bravo....
For you information regarding Police Idle Time, Near RCC's house in Mdina there is always a police standing there even when RCC is abroad for at least in the last 8 years.....
Carmel Farrugia
Jul 5th 2012, 09:26
The articles below give more details about the person involved in the security of the PN:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100216/local/bouncers-to-be-arraigned-over-paceville-beating.294327
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20091001/local/i-dont-want-accused-to-get-into-trouble.275489
A Dimech
Jul 5th 2012, 09:43
ha ha ha!!
nothing surprises me anymore!!
carmel callus
Jul 5th 2012, 09:13
Pullicino Orlando, please do us a favour: stop playing the victim. Remember we're now in 2012 and not 2008! Your tears will not impress anyone!
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 09:41
Mr. Callus in cases of this sort even followers of the MP would be threatened. It is important that he feels safe to continue doing his work and do the right thing.
It is important that PN will offer him security as well. Maltese Mentality is PNNNNNN or PLLLLLLLLLL and this need to change. Democratic countries would have these type of issues every day but in Malta PN MPs should always vote with the PN and PL MPs should always vote with the PL..... This is stupied and unfair one should always do the right thing and not what the party says....
Dr. Franco Debono, JPO, JM and also Dr. Adrian Vassallo of PL, Please stay strong and do the right thing not what your party wish you to do...........
Joseph Brincat
Jul 5th 2012, 09:42
carmel callus
THE PN SUPPORTERS ARE NOT SAINTS !!!!!!!
C. Sammut
Jul 5th 2012, 09:47
Mr Callus when someone is threatening the safety of your children you'd sell your soul to the devil to make sure they are safe. Obviously this is not a concept you seem to understand.
Paul Giordimaina
Jul 5th 2012, 10:32
Its so simple to stop everything just resign from parliament its seems you are not happy and stop saying you used the right to exercise your democratic rights.What do you mean so I can get naked in Republic street because we live in a democratic country.Give us a break and stop being a victim.
Mr Zeppi Borg
Jul 5th 2012, 11:03
Mr Paul Giordimaina, that's what you wish and your blue friends.....
Please choose the reason of your report below: