Update2 - Arriva says 99% of buses have airconditioning
Two white buses without airconditioners seen in Valletta last week.
Arriva said this afternoon that 99% of its buses are equipped with air conditioning units.
"The company is also undergoing a process to install additional units on all buses, which work directly on the drivers cabin and most of Arriva’s fleet has already been fitted with such units. This process will be complete in the coming weeks."
The company was reacting after the GWU directed drivers not to drive buses which do not have a functioning airconditioning unit.
Arriva apologised to passengers who may have been affected by the action ordered by the union.
"Arriva officials will be meeting union representatives this afternoon to find the best way to mediate the current situation until the formal talks planned for the middle of this week.
Meanwhile, the GWU said this morning that its action is indefinite. It also said that the company had tried to intimidate the drivers, with members of the management threatening them with disciplinary action.
The union and the company are currently in talks on the drivers' working conditions.
A passenger at the Marsa Park and Ride said she could notice a number of delays this morning.
"The buses usually leave from three village and are quite frequent. This morning just three buses passed in an hour, and they were all full up because a number of buses did not operate the route.
She said drivers had told her that their colleagues were not driving buses without airconditioning because a number of passengers had been taken ill as the temperatures soared and airconditioning was not used.
"The people then take it out on us" one driver exclaimed.
The extent of the industrial action is not clear. The Arriva spokesman could not immediately comment.
The action comes a week before Arriva marks a year since it launched its service in Malta. The company is still using a number of newly-imported buses or buses from the old service which are white and have not had airconditioning installed yet. Passengers, however, have also complained about airconditioning not working on other buses.
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Jennifer Cosaitis
Jun 27th 2012, 21:37
How many buses have air-conditioning units is one thing, how many on the other hand have FUNCTIONING air-conditioning units is another matter altogether.
Shifukato Arikatakizuka
Jun 27th 2012, 01:49
You can't comment if you haven't tried the service yourself, basic rule of thumb (:
Alfred Cassar
Jun 26th 2012, 23:23
Dear Mr. Angus Black,
Again I stand by the facts as they happened, Mintoff relinquished Power in 1987, not 1981, you could have had a chat with who negotiated the package, for the handover, but unfortunately, this great statesman, has passed away.
Back to today, this government would be lucky if he is still hanging onto, these thin threads of power in the next 25 days, let alone years, what is he running on ?, with ten possible defectors?, probably you should get the facts right, by for example reading this news paper, it is very educational.
A Caruana
Jun 26th 2012, 22:30
303 comments - the majority against Arriva - Austin the infallible - the message is clear from commuters, your revolution is not working! Arriva go home.
A.f Ellul
Jun 26th 2012, 21:06
They say that all the arriva busses have aircondition,but they use the aircondition?What I know is that when I use the transport two months ago,It was so hot that I think that I am not going to reach the next destination.I did'nt use the transport again.Those closed windows are not accepted in out country according to our weather.The old busses were better.
Giov DeMartino
Jun 26th 2012, 18:48
IZJED MINN 300 KUMMENT.....mhux ghax haw l-ghaks, imma ghax hemm xi karozzi tal-linja li ma ghandhomx airconditioners! Fi zmien il-lejber anqsa x'nieklu ma konna nsibu ahseb u ara A/Cs fil-karozzi. Nixtieqw naf kemm minn dawn il-kummentaturi juraw l-Arriva. Anqas Eddy Privitera ma jirkibhom ghax ghandu tieghu. Lili jinjorani ghax, qalli darba, ikun qed isegwi l-futboll
John Spiteri
Jun 26th 2012, 12:19
I catch the number 12 bendy bus mondays to friday after work. None of them have AC! The buses are overcrowded and people are overheating!
Anthony Arpa
Jun 26th 2012, 11:42
Jiena nara li sewwa li qed jaghmlu ix-xufiera jipretendu li ix-xarabank li jkunu qed isuqu tkun bl-aria inkundijonata. Jien ukoll nipretendi li ahna il passigieri ghana nipretendu li L-Arriva jtuna dak kollhu li weghduna li se jtuna ...
Pero xorta dwar dan il fatt jien nara li jekk ir-risposta tal l-Arriva dik li 99% tax xarabanks taghha huma kollha bl-arja ikkundizjonata hija li jekk din hi il-verita tal fatti ,ghalura jien naghra l -Azzjoni tal GWU hija bhala wahda bla sens ....
Eddy Privitera
Jun 26th 2012, 12:56
Anthony: Il-GWU qed tinsisti li l-airconditioning IKUN JAHDEM mhux billi jkun hemm unit ta A/C !
R. Vella.
Jun 26th 2012, 10:19
yesterday afternoon bus 42 (from Valletta to Cirkewwa) had the AC set on 33 degrees ! - a pleasant journey indeed.
Arriva please stop fooling us !
j dough
Jun 26th 2012, 22:07
LOL!!!
Andrew Holland
Jun 26th 2012, 08:51
According to wikipedia (so it must be true!), the Arriva Malta operation comprises of around 264 buses. So 1% of those lacks air con? That would be no more than 3 buses then. So, everyone, go out today and note the registration plate of every bus you find WITHOUT air con fitted and post on here perhaps and lets see if it really is 3 buses.. I have a feeling it would be rather more than that!
Eddy Privitera
Jun 26th 2012, 16:40
Andrew Holland: Surely you're joking ! It's not that busses have no A/C units fitted, but that quite a number of them are out of order !!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Borg
Jun 26th 2012, 18:34
I think Mr Holland's suggestion does make good sense.
I for one would be noting this ... and a lot other mishaps on Arriva buses ... like the poles hanging out of their sockets on most King Longs cheapo buses.
Question: Do buses have a warranty period like private cars?
If yes, Arriva should insist for a team of King Long mechanics to fix most things wrong on their brand-new buses.
(Suspension problems, sticking folding doors, snapping shut of the 4 small windows ...).
Many of them have been in service for only 1 year yet they seem to be much longer than that.
Andrew Holland
Jun 27th 2012, 17:41
@Anthony Borg
There is a 5 year warranty on those King Long buses... so once we get to year 6 they will probably fit a scoop to the back of the bus to catch all the bits that fall off once the warranty has run out... ;)
Rocco Camilleri
Jun 26th 2012, 08:10
To make more sense Arriva better tell us 99 % out of what number, because the 1 % difference could make quite a lot. 1 % out of 100 is just 1 but out of a larger number is another story.
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jun 26th 2012, 08:09
Dear Maltese voter/citizen/taxpayer, insist very strongly on competition in all sectors. Never accept monopoly as the only way forward. Wake up and be counted.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 26th 2012, 11:34
Mr Pavia,
I totally agree with you on a wider choice and competition, but this was an investment of a life time. Who would be interested to operate unless they are the sole operators, no one.
John Scerri
Jun 26th 2012, 07:28
''Arriva says 99% of buses have airconditioning''. This excuse is not acceptable.
The 100% complete should state that Arriva have 100% of buses with air conditioning and all 100% have their AC functioning.
One commuter boarding a bus without AC taking 30 mins to 1hour to reach a destination in this heat is not acceptable.
Commuters pay good money and expect a 100% good service , no questions asked.
A private vehicle has opening windows just in case the AC malfunctions ..........Arriva Buses don't.
Paul Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 23:02
Mela li nara jien 20 darba kulljum huma dawk il 1%
X Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 21:18
OK 99% of buses have AC, great. Lets hope it will be 100% very soon.
In the meantime ensure that the 99% have effective AC and that their AC is in operation 100% of the time when on routes or waiting at terminals.
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 20:23
Yes cannot beat Arriva for stirring up hot debate!! They score every time but sadly it's always an "own goal" !
Colin Rutledge
Jun 25th 2012, 20:20
All i have to say is X3.........yes X3......a disaster !!!!!!!
Kevin Muller
Jun 25th 2012, 20:03
Up to now I am quite happy using Arriva even it's not perfect. On Malta we can not expect a service like we experience in more advanced counties like UK or Germany, cos that needs something so called discipline, which still does not exists on our islands. So whatever company tries to run a good public transport system on Malta must fail just because nobody has to face the consequences.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 26th 2012, 11:28
Deterrence by Punishment.
Ill treatment of Commuters is part of our Code of Laws and must be enforced. Who enforces the enforcers?, if they themselves are not punished, you get the Laissez-faire leadership, which you do not find in Nordic states. No one wants, a Police State, God forbid, we go back to the 80's.
But by the looks of it that is where we are heading. Discipline needs Policing. Law makes a Crime and the punishment to it.
effie stafrace
Jun 25th 2012, 19:40
i am a commuter who who uses regularly the arriva transport bus number 43 from naxxar to valletta and vice versa and i am 100 per cent satisfied with these service.arriva has made giants step in only a year its had been here in malta and i think it will improve its service in the coming years.but complaints such as buses with no air condition should be tackled immediately in this blistering heat so drivers and passengers should not suffer while using arriva service.in this article i read that disciplinary action will be taken against drivers not using buses with no ac.may i ask why no action was taken against that bus driver who did not turn up for work in the mscala route and left passengers waiting for 2 hours?
mark borg
Jun 25th 2012, 19:50
in only a year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wait till winter starts again and all students and more people start using the service again !
Maria Vassallo
Jun 25th 2012, 19:31
Last Friday, I boarded the 83 bus for Santa Lucija.
That was from Floriana and the time was just after 5.15 p.m.
The driver was a young lad.
That afternoon it was very hot both waiting for the bus and inside it.
When we arrived in Aldo Moro Street, an elderly gentleman went up to the driver and politely invited him to switch on the AC.
The driver answered him that it was full on: A BLATANT LIE!
A few seconds after the AC was on because I went up to the said driver and told him that I would report the fact.
THIS IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
More discipline please: we might be heading to square one.
AND, PLEASE, GWU NOTE!
j dough
Jun 25th 2012, 21:16
so the driver is sabotaging arriva? by keeping the ac off and making commuters complain???
Reinhard Azzopardi
Jun 26th 2012, 12:56
@J Dough.
It seems to be the case.
j dough
Jun 26th 2012, 22:10
why am i not surprised!
Victor Calleja
Jun 25th 2012, 19:29
I seldom use them but when I do I usually find one of those 1%. Perhaps I am unlucky.
Louis Craus
Jun 25th 2012, 19:19
Fis 02.45pm wasalt lura minn Ghawdex,u kien hemm xi ghoxrin karozza tal- Arriva pparkjati ghax qalu li m'ghandomx Aircondition. Qbadt in-Number 42 ta-ftit qabel it-03.00pm ghal Belt Valletta u wkoll ma kelliex
Aircondition. Kif wasalna il- Mellieha, tela' l-inspector u talabna nuruh il- biljett tat transport. Wara li urejtu il- biljett ghedtlu biex ikun ahjar biex jixelilna l-Aircondition. Qalli issa nghid lid-driver jghollilu.
Mhux talli ma qal xejn lid-driver, imma nizel mill- karozza sparat il- barra. Vera arroganza at it's best.
Sakemm wasalt il-Belt, wara siegha w nofs f'tal- linja ,sirt skuzi "zibel " ghax inzertajt f'seat li kien in -naha tax-xemx.....in-naha tad-driver.
Basta il- Kbir Austin Gatt kien qal,li zmien il- buzullotti spicca. Nahseb li b'din l-arroganza ghadhom ser jibdew il- buzullotti, ghax ahna l-popolin ma ghandniex karozza bid-driver u l-aircondition bhallma ghandu hu. Imma ma jimporta xejn,iz-zmien jasal ghal kullhadd.
Angus Black
Jun 26th 2012, 02:57
Austin Gatt ma ghandu x'jaqsam xejn jekk ix-xufier ma xeghelx l-air conditioner. Ghax ma cempiltx l-Arriva w rrappurtajt lix-xufier u l-inspector w tajthom il-hin li kont fuq ix-xarabank?
Hekk jonqos, Ministru jilbes berritta w jaghmila ta kunduttur jonqos! Forsi Zeppi ta Burmarrad imissu jirkeb fuq l-istaffa biex zgur kollox imur sew!
L-Arriva ghandhom 'detectors' li malli jxommu l-bziezaq, l-air conditioning jintefa mmedjetament! Imhatra ma kontux tafu?
Mela x'kontu taghmlu sena ilu meta kontu tirkbu dawk il-karrakki, b'seats imcarta, twieqi jcekcku u dhahen tad-diesel fi mnifsejkom? LOL
Eddy Privitera
Jun 26th 2012, 17:23
Angus Black, meta tikteb kif tikteb int, lilek stess tkun qieghed tirredikola, mhux lil Dr. Joseph Muscat !
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 18:57
Dear Mr. Busutill,
The Representative Government's job, is to see that what he contracted in my name, not as a delegate but a representative, that is to the best of his ability, not been told what to do, by either you or me, ... is carried out to the letter.
An Authority was established, it failed, everyone seems to have failed his job, so that trust between the Legislator and the Authority ought top have been lost. Either we go on this way or have the Authority people that have to do with Public Transport fired.
But in view that Hon Austin Gatt (to which I still do not understand why the PM had to back him with the whole government), should have resigned long time ago, but it is not within our culture. Definitely, the Transport Authority people are not immune to this disease, and wont resign either.
So where does it stop?, it stops back at the Top.
The PM and the Cabinet are on my payroll as much as they are on everyone's, that contributes in taxes and in turn awaits protection.
I know as mush as you do, if you commit a very minor detail in breaking some little contravention, the State uses all its powers, and at times even permits that in some cases you are not entitled to a Fair Hearing, and literally comes down on you like a tonne of bricks.
Why should who ever should take responsibility, does not bear the brunt? And who ever is there to create a deterrent and a punishment, does not do so?
In Criminal Law, if I personally take you as a hostage for a limited time, regardless how small, I am sentenced harshly, Arriva does it to the whole population every single day. For if the bus is making you sick and you have no other means but to hang on to that miserable service, then there is something of an illegality in it, that if not specified by law, is specified in a moral of natural sense.
Two elements in this country that bear little or no importance.
C Falzon
Jun 25th 2012, 18:41
Ara veru ma ghandniex problemi f'dan il-pajjiz biex xi erba' karozzi tal-linja bla air conditioning holqu daqhekk interess. Mitejn u hamsin kumment fi ftit sieghat - ara veru ma ghandniex fuq xiex ingergru!
effie stafrace
Jun 25th 2012, 19:20
mr falzon its better not to comment if you don't know what you are talking about.did you ever try to use a bus with no air condition and no windows with no air flow in the middle of a summer afternoon?i suggest you try it and believe you will be the first one to make a comment.one of the buzzullotti mentioned by the minister austin gatt was the sweltering heat one had to endure in the old buses.so please be reasonable when making such comments because you are hurting people who have to travel in these conditions.
Eddy Privitera
Jun 25th 2012, 20:52
C. Falzon: LE, M'HAWNX FUQ HIEX INGERGRU, TARAX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kev Samut
Jun 25th 2012, 21:03
Iva Sur Falzon erba biss bla aircondition.Ghax ma tmurx sac-Cirkewwa ha tara kemm il-Bendy Bus kien hemm bin-notice NO AC imwehhla mal-windscreen.Nahseb kien hemm xi 15 Bendys hemmekk biss ahseb u ara il-Marsa park and ride u postijiet ohra.
Dunstan Crockford
Jun 25th 2012, 18:28
Contract stated 100%! Please comply! Arriva has/had so many shortcomings!and created a fuss about Bisazza Street..Remember?
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 20:18
Yes, so penalties should apply against them this time!
Anthony Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 18:24
"......Dear ARRIVA, soon it will be your first birthday!
My best wishes for you on this occasion is that you pack up and go!
Not that the Maltese commuter wants ATP (the former bus system) back .... but perhaps, just perhaps, some new and more serious Bus company will tender again.
We paid good money for your to operate ... you pay us back with hours of waiting in vain at bus-stops and termini. Excuses galore: now it's the traffic, then lack of drivers, then accidents on the road, then break-down of buses.... ask the commuters at bus-stops what they think ... send out some of your reps and gather some feedback!
Do us a favour ... call it a day ... and close shop! We will love you for it!
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 20:20
Wouldn't be surprised if they have considered it!
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 17:44
The 239 comments on this issue should show the authorities that the Arriva saga is anything but gone. Some time ago Arriva announced that they are getting less complaints and theycame to the conclusion that the public is now satisfied with their service(!) The public is NOT satisfied but is resigned to his fate and knows that any complaints fall on deaf ears since Arriva has a monopoly. Whoever is responsible for this will have his answer soon.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 18:06
That says it all.
C Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 18:12
x'gone gone ? imma ormaj mhemmx taghmel dawn hawn qassata per eccellenza u trid tkun veru kapaci biex taghmel servizz aghar minn ta' qabel!!!!!!!
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jun 25th 2012, 17:41
I feel that the GWU is nitpicking on everything it can as to damage the government's reputation as heavily as possible. A PL scheme I think. Not saying that the Arriva is perfect (far from it) but it's getting tedious listening to all this crying all over the place. Try working in a laboratory without an AC unit while handling samples to and from a 800 degree oven!
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 18:04
Dear Reuben,
that was your choice, our choice is to wake up, on the bus, buy a ticket, and with that ticket we have established a contract, with Arriva there and then, for Arriva to supply us with what they contracted with our Representative Government, You and I finance, with our Taxes.
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 19:51
The GWU doesn't need to nit pick to damage the government through Arriva. Arriva and their partners in farce TM are doing a very good job of that on their own!
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 17:24
How many buses are without AC? Number please not percentages. If the number is small then Arriva need not worry as it would not affect the smooth(!) running of the service. What about the passengers who are making use of that 1% without AC? Are they being charged less?
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 17:18
It is the Arrival of Arriva, that will be the main issue in the next General Election, regardless what the PN will try to do to patch up the un-patchable. The PN is fed up of Governing the Country, as was Mintoff in 1987. They shall be returning the favour to the MLP. They are just handing over the country to people that have never respected Human Rights in Malta. But believe it or not the ones who suffered so much under Labour, and know the Country will to some extent suffer one kind of violence or another, after being in the opposition for so long, know that this administration has failed in many respects. When it comes to violating the Body of a Natural Person, be it by hunger or enforced time in a closed environment in a temperature not regulated as the law or regulation establishes, then that would be the last straw on the camels back.
One would have to say, and soon, Au Revoir Démocratie.
Lawrence Gonzi, no one else, should put Police to the Job. Full Stop.
Angus Black
Jun 25th 2012, 18:00
Alfred Cassar, get your facts straight, will you? Mintoff was fed up governing in 1981 when he handed over to a non-elected KMB who governed with a minority of votes for the next five plus years!
The NP is ready to continue for the good of the country for another 25 years. It is the people who will decide, not the NP and certainly not the LP.
'Patching up the un-patchable'? Now that's a new one. Are you one of the former bus drivers, by any chance? How many former buses had air conditioners and the very few which had, how often were they turned on? But now, that Arriva's buses are 99% air conditioned the GWU has ordered drivers not to operate the 1% which don't! The gall - the thick skinned Union's arrogance knows no bounds and this after Arriva has stated that the remaining 1% will be equipped with air conditioners in a few weeks!
C Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 18:11
ghalfejn jidhol il-gvern fin-nofs ? il-lejber ? etc etc
L-arriva dizastru fuq ir-roti u dawk huma l-fatti. Sa minn day one dawn ghamlu pudina, l-ewwel taparsi tort tax-xuffiera li ghamlu sabutagg Bilhaqq Sur Cassar kemm kienu dawn ix-xuffiera 20 ? 50? 120 ? ghidli naqa ghax qatt ma smajna xejn aktar. Apparti r-rotot vroma shiha u li issa wara kwazi sena ergajna lura ghar-rotot ta' qabel ?
U din ta' l-aircondition din ilha mhux l-ewwel darba li tkun fuq karrozza u x-xuffier jghidlek li bil-hsara imma peress li mghandhomx karrozzi bizzejjed ma jistawx jaghmlu tiswija.
Jew fuq dawk il-bendy buses fejn bilkemm jinhass u dawn ikunu mimlija aktar milli tghid il-ligi fejn huwa tal-health and safety ? Ovvja li l-awtoritajiet ma jiehdux passi, dak jonqoshom l-arriva nfurzar tal-ligijiet biex jigu ottu
Tkun il-venda l-belt u jimmarka fuq l-iscreen li fadal tlett minuti biex tasal l-karrozza u f'daqqa wahda tispicca kwarta ohra tistenna fix-xemx Dan tort ta' Muscat ? tort ta' Gonzi jew tort ta' l-Arriva. Jekk iccempel iwahhlu f'TM u bil-kontra. Halluna tridux
U issa mhemmx aktar l-iskuza tax-xuffiera l-antiki ghax minn dawk ma fadal kwazi xejn, xuffiera jidhlu u johorgu minn ma' dawn kemm trid ghax il-kundizzjonijiet huma mid-dehra tal-biza.
Dawk huma l-fatti
Kevin Taliana
Jun 25th 2012, 20:15
@Angus Black
Old buses had a few open windows, the few that worked, and no air conditioning. The problem with the new buses is with no airconditioning is that they don't have open windows. Ventilation depends heavily on airconditioners.
Maria Grech
Jun 25th 2012, 17:03
I catch the bus three or four times a week and I have started to dread it. I catch the Mgarr bus, number 44 and many a time the 17.40 bus does not turn up. A case in point was last Friday, I was at the bus terminus at 17.22 ( time of ticket) and did not board a bus before 18.42. Two buses did not turn up and after three calls to the Arriva customer care with all types of excuses, a bus finally turned up. There were many foreigners going to Ghajn Tuffieha, all with children and some had to call a taxi because they could not wait any longer in the sun. There is no shade and all the benches are in the sun. Please make an effort to get the buses at the Valetta Terminus on time because if this problem is solved even the problems on the way are eased.
saviour ebejer
Jun 25th 2012, 17:00
jien ghamilt gurnata nigri il-bierah bl-arriva minn mscala al mxlokk al belt u bugibba u tas- sliema u il buses kollha kienu air conditioned u dan kollu al 50cents.good value.u la kien hemm bramel u xkupi taht is-seat u lanqas toqob fis seat u alla jbierek kollha packed kienu il buses.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 17:20
50 cents? LOL
Mr Andrei Azzopardi
Jun 25th 2012, 17:31
Biex tkun infurmat, bil-karta anzjan 50c titla fuq l-Arriva sur Cassar.
Tony Zammit
Jun 25th 2012, 17:44
Jien kwazi ghamilt l-istess haga Sur Ebejer, id-differenza kienet ir-riha ta' gharaq li kien hemm fuq il- busses li rkibt jien, inkluz jien imxarrab ghasra u nixtieq li kien hemm barmil u forsi bicca tal-art halli ninhasel fih. Nista' nghidlek li hadt sauna ghal 1.50 Euro.
Andrew Cumbo
Jun 25th 2012, 18:20
Sur Ebejer, ħafna bħalek u speċjalment anzjani qegħdin jagħmlu ġurnata vera jduru bl- Arriva għax sabu li “worthed” għall €0.50c joqogħdu ġo karozza bl-arja kundizjunata, (ghall inqas dawk li għandom) minflok jixgħelu l-arja kundizjunata ta’ darhom. Biex nigħdlek li kieku l- Arriva toffri servizz matul il- lejl kollu, u jħalluni norqod matul il-vjaġġi jien ukoll hekk nagħmel għax l-air condition tieghi illum qiegħed hemm biex nħares lejh biss.
mark borg
Jun 25th 2012, 19:24
ghal informazzjoni tal propaganda li minghalik li qed tinpressjona lil xi hadd...kull biljett jiswa 2.50 ewro lit tax payer jigifiri lil min ihallas it taxxa qed jissusidjak..u barra min hekk alla hares mhux b airconditioned fit 2012 wara li il gvern hallina imcapsin b sistema primittiva li kellna, u biex hlisna minnhom hallasna (min jahdem u jhallas it taxxi) 50 elf ewro kull bicca imbarazz li il gvern kien hallina imwekkijin bijhom, u fuq kollox issa belghalna wara dawn il flus kollha sistema kummidja professjonali bhall arriva....dik hija il 50 cents li qed tparla sur EBEJER !!!
J Cachia
Jun 25th 2012, 16:53
Up till time of writing there are 218 comments about Arriva, 99% against it. Does the Prime Minister, or Austin Gatt, or Transport Malta and Arriva realize how fed up and disgusted we are about the sorry state of the public transport? The bad service offered by the government elicits the most comments in the Times of Malta site. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING FED UP AND HURT! But nobody seems to listen to these complaints. If I were anyone of them and face so much criticism I would go and hide myself in the l-Ahrax tal-Mellieha. Shame on you all!
Neville Roberts
Jun 25th 2012, 17:39
99% of comments are against it because the majority of people that comment do so because they are just moaners against any progression in this Country, now up to 237 comments from mostly unhappy travelers? or just people that like to put down anything that is Arriva!! 400,000+ people in Malta and you want the Prime Minister to take note of 99% of 218? I am sure he is listening to You ! Ha Ha !
J Cachia
Jun 26th 2012, 07:36
Mr Neville Roberts,
I am sure that you do not use the Arriva buses because you do not know what you are talking about. You will be one of the 'moaners' if you do.
And I am sure that the Prime Minister is not listening to us about the bad service from Arriva even if he promised that he will take the matter himself to put it right. Let him not listen... but the last laugh will be when he is kicked out of Castille at the next elections by not listening to the 'moaners'. The Arriva fracas is another nail in the GonziPN coffin! He who laughs last is best! Ha Ha ha!!!!
Doris Farrugia
Jun 25th 2012, 16:42
here we go again.This morning I had a hospital appointment and decided to use Arriva no 135.I was on the bus stop at 11.10 and the bus usually arrives for 15-20 afterwards but at 11.50 I decided to take out my car cause the bus did not show up.The place is triq ghellejjel Gudja.Arriva-NON Arriva!
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 17:06
Most of the commuters either do not have a car, sold it for they , now cant afford it, both in License, Insurance, and fuel, or cant afford to even hire a car, or worst afford a cab, .... what should they do?, ..... I feel like joining the Elite, and instead of saying , Who cares?, I say nothing.
Giov DeMartino
Jun 25th 2012, 16:39
Taraw kemm ghandna standard of living gholi taht il-PN. Qabel anqas dawl fid-djar ma kien ikollna ahseb u ara A/C fil-karozzi.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 16:54
This is 2012, not 1912.
Charles Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 17:02
Inti taccetta li taghmel kuntratt ma xi hadd u dan jigi lura mill-fthim? U meta tkun qed thallas il-flus it-tajba. Anki bhalissa mhux dejjem qed ikollna d-dawl fid-djar, u dan wara l-weghda li din is-sitwazzjoni tispicca ghal dejjem.
Mario Scicluna
Jun 25th 2012, 17:03
Qabel il poplu kien jinghata plots u artijiet b'xejn, illum ghandek xorti jtik il kanna ta' l-ilma jew jghamillek it-triq sura. Illum tehodhom il-plots B'XEJN!!!!!
Andrew Cumbo
Jun 25th 2012, 18:25
Sur Mario Scicluna naħseb sejjer żbaljat ġħax issa, ħargu xi permessi tal- bini fil- wied tal- Mosta. Naħseb Sur De Martino smajt bihom dawn?!
mark borg
Jun 25th 2012, 19:27
qabel taht mintoff il poplu tawh ....childrens allowance ...djar...pensjonijiet....sparijit ...polyclinics b xejn...u issa BAHH TAHT PN/GONZIPN
Glen Cutteridge
Jun 25th 2012, 16:39
It's incredible how short some people's memories are. No, Arriva is nowhere near perfect and I had to wait for 45 minutes in Naxxar for Bus No. 225 that's supposed to arrive every 20 minutes. Needless to say that when it DID finally arrive it was followed by another 225 close at its tail. That being said, I haven't forgotten the old service, their extremely inconsistent times (I remember waiting a whole hour for one ATP bus last year), and of course the immense heat experienced inside them in summer. My last ever journey on an ATP bus was in the middle of a hot summer's day. I had opened that little window crack but there was no breeze at all, the bus was so crowded that I could literally barely breathe, and I remember dying for the new Arriva service to start operating. I haven't changed my mind.
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 17:30
Funny! only last Saturday I waited for one and a half hours for the number 1 bus!
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jun 25th 2012, 16:33
Bus commuters must reflect on Arriva's global motto "Constantly better service" and then ask how long are we going to continue being taken for a ride.
Malcolm Mifsud
Jun 25th 2012, 16:09
If you want to cut this issue short just get some inspectors to board buses randomly and we'll see if 99% of the buses you (Arriva) are saying are equipped with, are operated. Something tells me there's some sort of order circulating to switch on airconditioning the least possible. At least that's the impression I get when I board from Fgura every morning, it either is not on and you have to open windows, or if it is on you pray to God that you arrive to your destination before you turn into an ice cube. It's the two extremes that are most common, as usual.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 16:36
Dear Malcolm,
There are Inspectors from Arriva, in their Green suits and Arriva handbags, then there is the Transport Authority Inspectors. The Latter have a list , tick in the box type of print out. One box says Temperature : 19 - 21 degrees.
How is it possible to note the temperature, both by driver to regulate the gadget and the Inspector to read the temperature , when there is no gauge?, well one would say, bring your fever thermometer with you, in this case, not to measure the temperature of the Bus, but that of the users. The other way is to listen to the morning news, and if the temperature outside is 35, and when alighting the bus you feel the fresh air , even at 37 degrees, then common sense will tell you that the bus, was running it cooking apparatus on a high flame.
Edgar S. Galea
Jun 25th 2012, 15:53
A year seems to be an aeon: everyone forgot the kind of service we had in the past. Has anyone ever been comfortable with workable air conditioned buses! Arriva's service is much better than the service we then had to endure. It is needless to make comparisons.
C Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 16:25
Arriva's service is better than the service we had...... my foot
My travelling time from St.Julians to Valletta and vice versa used to take 30 minutes now it takes 45 minutes when I am lucky and this thanks to Arriva.
I used to hate the old service but Arriva has managed to do the unthinkable and make me regret the old service,
I can make you all the comparisons you want and will leave you speechless.
Stop defending the undefended it has nothing to do with politics we are talking about Arriva not the government. As if nationalists don't take the bus, yes they do and have every dam right to say that this service is a disaster on wheels, it might have improved from the initial nightmare but always a disaster it is.
PS- Take an arriva bendy bus with an AC that is hardly felt (a common problem with bendy buses by the way) a bus full of people even beyond safety limits............. ha naraw kemm tibqa l-paladin ta' l-arriva !!!
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 16:42
Mr C Busutill,
.... should be still fresh in your mind, that there was a bomb threat a couple of weeks ago, what if some person (that could also be a suffering person, instead of simply having fun with a prank call, decides really to put a device together, (u dont need much - simple kitchen products), and on his way to wherever he plans to hit, by accident or by intention, blows it on a bus, and there is your daughter or mine?
So this is no laughing or ridiculing matter.
Doris Farrugia
Jun 25th 2012, 16:48
Please don't say that maybe where you live there is a good service.Right this morning I spent 40mins in the blazing sun without any cover to go to hospital and the bus did not turn up.I'm lucky I have a car or else bye bye to the hospital appointment for which I had been waiting for 6 months!
Roy Schembri
Jun 25th 2012, 15:49
Now nearly a year since we enjoyed the benefits of a proper bus service operated by ourselves but taken away from us by Minister Gatt and his transport team. They chose Arriva then ran away when it got hot in the kitchen. Aside from the Government the GWU were also led along the garden path by Arriva and into 'agreements' that they're now finding were not worth the paper scribbled on. Amazing what 'tea and scones' can do to Mr Zarb and Co.
Can Dr Muscat and his transport mannie (whoever that is) now come out from hiding and state that on the return of a Labour government Arriva will be sacked with their bags, buses, bendy's, king 'loons' and all other rubbish they've demped here sent back to where they came from. That promise Dr Muscat (and backed up by action) will ensure your success in any forthcoming election.
Tonio Farrugia
Jun 25th 2012, 15:39
anything short of "100% fully functioning and effective airconditioned buses, working 24x7" is totally unacceptable!
let us not forget what this reform has cost to the tax payers!
Eddy Privitera
Jun 25th 2012, 15:32
I note "lawyers speak" in Arriva's statement. I understand that the GWU directive says that drivers should not drive busse unless yhe airconditioning system is working, or am I wrong ? Having airconditioning installed but out of order is just like not having any airconditioning system at all !
Sarah Agius Bezzina
Jun 25th 2012, 15:30
Everything about Arriva is faulty and they have not realised it yet. The colour of the bus is not uniform, people are left out in the sun waiting for endless hours in all weathers without having adequate shade and without knowing whether a bus is ever turning up, airconditioning is not functioning in almost all buses (this constitutes the 1%!!!).
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 16:29
A small point maybe but whilst referring to the bus colours I still feel that a glorious opportunity was missed by not insisting that the buses retained their most recent yellow livery. That colour had become a firm favourite across the world and clearly identified the "Malta bus". It should have been retained as opposed to the feeble Arriva acquamarine. Malta lost yet another part of its tradition overnight last July and it is much missed.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 15:26
Is the GWU being discriminatory, here?, Is the action being taken , because the Drivers have no air con on their head , or that the drivers are fed up with the complaints of the public?, what is really the issue , here?
Does the GWU, not have the majority of Arriva bus users, as members of her Union?, So, is it not true, that this Union should, not only beat the drums on something that could seem trivial as to the bigger picture , of the whole population of users?
So, if for the sake of a few drivers, we now have an indefinite strike, what shall we expect, if the GWU decides to speak in the name of the thousands upon thousands of her members who suffer on the way to work and back?, ..... as it should do?
Joe Tabone
Jun 25th 2012, 15:17
The GWU should that notice of hundreds of workers who use the public transport on a daily basis to travel to and from their workplace. They should sit down with the management and find solutions, and not try to impress Arriva workers after they threatened to set their own union!
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jun 25th 2012, 15:17
I say that 99% of Arriva'a buses are far nosier to other road and pavement users than the previous bangers.
Robert Grixti
Jun 25th 2012, 15:16
how unlucky, it seems that the lines serving naxxar and gharghur lie within the 1% then
Mrs Wendy Hall-Jennings
Jun 25th 2012, 15:13
Last Thursday evening, my husband was waiting for a bus from 5:45pm to bring him home from work. The one bus that did turn up said that he couldnt get on it because it was full, although 6 people had got off the bus? He was told that buses had been taken off the route by Arriva due to faults with air conditioning. My husband then ended up having to go in the opposite direction into Valletta, to get a bus home. He finally made it back to Qawra at 8:50pm! This is absolutely disgusting service. When he rang the Arriva Customer Services to complain and ask why, they hung up on him. The service provided by Arriva is shocking, and cannot see any improvement since it started almost a year ago.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 15:03
It is high time, commuters start using alternative transportation than 'Meals on Wheels', where the only item on the Menu, is us Users. If there is consensus amongst the general public that they are better off with walking than suffocating, then so be it. This Bad attitude by these PR officials should fought back.
What happens when these high earning dwindle?, . like any other commercial Company, they move on and of course, out of our Country.
Buses are not only used by Locals but by Tourists, who we all know lose so much precious and expensive time waiting for Buses, when then they board the Oven, they pay dearer tolls, and suffer double we do , especially if they are Nordic.
What a good name for Malta, ... where is Hon De Marco?, has he not just signed a contract with them on carrying Passengers to and fro to Concerts, fine, did he go into the High Temperature issue, ... I don't think so, ..... seem fully there is always someone else to address the issue,
then who better than the Transport Authority?, when they themselves , stick their own head in the sand?,
Where is the Police Commissioner and his army, that in their Police Stations, whenever someone who is a victim , files a report on Arriva, that trips are diverted, not carried out at all, or any other grievance that is a crime created by the relative law, enacted through our own parliaments against abuses by the buses owners or operators?
These victims are ridiculed. Seem fully, even the Police , for so long they have not arraigned anyone on this law we have, that they say there are no laws in this respect. So therefore since this law, has not been abrogated , and is still in vigore, then Arriva is having special treatment, at our expense, both morally and financially.
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 14:59
"This process will be complete in the coming weeks"! Yet another open-ended comittment! 99% of buses have AC ? Well even if true and they are all functioning properly that is not what Arriva promised and there are obviously a number of buses without the facility . Somewhat unfortunate if you happen to be travelling on the 1% that don't comply! The drivers are absolutely right to take action and illustrate the point and they should be supported.
C Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 14:58
The GWU are making it easier for Arriva to slowly replace the trouble making Maltese drivers who have no work ethic with those from other EU countries where having a job is a priviledge and respected. I hope Arriva uses these opportunity to 'cleanse' it's workforce of these people who have no intention of delivery a service beyond their minim contract (often much less).
Time to move on and recruit those from other EU countries.
Eddy Privitera
Jun 25th 2012, 15:34
C. Cssar: When the air-conditioning systemis not working, it is not only the drivers who suffer, but the passengers as well in all this heat we are having !
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 17:40
We used to hear this kind of talk in the 70s. Surely C.Cassar was not in agreement then.
C Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 18:49
The EU is an open market now, no work permits needed. That's the beauty of the EU. It also means Maltese can go and work elsewhere, although many will have a big shock at what responsibilities and accoiuntability they will have to accept. I say bring in the other EU workers, surely the Maltese have nothing to fear have they? Come on Arriva, start recruiting from other parts of the EU.
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 22:16
Perhaps the drivers you refer to are taking the lead from their employers, Arriva, in providing less of a service than they are obliged to by contract. Seems to be a company thing!
Emma Xerri
Jun 25th 2012, 14:58
But.... in buses that are in reality glass cages, the A/C percentage should be 100.
Arriva please take note, a 1% non airconditioned bus takes in hundreds of people a day who have to suffer the hour journeys that most of your routes take. There are laws against keeping dogs in hot cars in the sun, so why is it OK if it is for people?
Mario Fenech
Jun 25th 2012, 15:48
The 1% are the saunabus model. Loose weight as you travel.
C Baldacchino
Jun 25th 2012, 14:56
Ok so who's to blame??
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 15:23
It's a classic "corporate cock - up" with the blame shared by TM and Arriva and perhaps even the hierarchy of Government. The Maltese officials were too eager to swallow the exaggerated promises of Arriva and should have taken a step back to more fully assess what was on offer from Arriva and how realistic and achievable their "promises" were. Arriva are part of a huge global commercial organisation with only one objective...profit! They are likely to provide the minimum they can get away with in return for the maximum gain and should be challenged and penalised on every occasion when they fail to deliver. A year is way more than long enough to get up to speed and deliver the goods as promised and they appear to have failed. One wonders what alternatives were turned down in favour of Arriva's bid?
GL Calleja
Jun 25th 2012, 15:43
Mr Dewar only Minister Austin Gatt can answer your last question and it seems he is nowhere to be found. Asking TM is out of the question because the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. Maybe you can ask the PM, who said " The buck stops here".
Fran Abela
Jun 25th 2012, 14:50
Commuters please let us stick to the issue now which is buses without airconditioning. I do agree of course that buses should have airconditioning and this was supposed to have been one of the conditions of the new bus operator contract with Transport Malta. So the pertinent question to ask why is Transport Malta so silent on this issue. That is the question. I do not care if the bus operator is fined for not supplying buses with airconditioning - we want airconditioned buses full stop. If the new bus operator are having problems with airconditioning the buses - it seems this is happening mostly on the bendy buses - well that is their problem and they have to solve it.
Joey Tribbiani
Jun 25th 2012, 14:46
Arriva says 99% of buses have airconditioning - Apart from the fact that 100% of the buses should have a/c, are the ones installed all fully functional?
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 14:46
Yes very good updates, go on , bury your head in the sand, as if all is ok.
Of course we all know the address of these officials, with such truthful statements, they are reachable, as follows: 'Good PR House', Wrong Way, A Moon, Revolving Round Planet 7X8CVCB52GFDF.
j brincat
Jun 25th 2012, 14:42
So they should make the extra effort for that 1% more.
Arriva is not here for a social benefit but for profitable gains, like any commercial enterprise (and some subsidy here and there).
(jb)
M. Calleja
Jun 25th 2012, 14:41
How many buses constituted the alleged 1% of the total Arriva fleet?
I would like to point out, as a frequent Arriva user, that, in their majority, buses destined to the Three Cities ie Routes 1,2 and 3 are non-airconditioned, making the 10-15 minutes trip 'hell on wheels' particularly in the afternoon, not to mention the level of stench from sweating patrons! Not their fault definitely! Travelling to the Three Cities is like driving yourself home smelling your own armpits all the way.
Can something please be done to have our route buses airconditioned please? I don't even know why I should have to ask for this. Our tickets are not any cheaper just because the promised ariconditioning does not work. If we are to pay for the fare we should be able to enjoy the same pleasant ride, as people travelling to other areas of Malta.
I hate to say this, but people of the South of Malta seem to be considered "Children of a Lesser God".
Malcolm Farrugia
Jun 25th 2012, 14:41
And the remaining 1% is without A/C, so the drivers who are unfortunate to have to drive these busses have all the right to refuse to drive them!
Steven Smith
Jun 25th 2012, 14:39
they may have a/c fitted but they do not work!
Carmel Zammit
Jun 25th 2012, 14:33
What happened to Dr. Austin Gatt's pledge to have air-conditioning installed and functional on all Ariiva buses by May??
When will the much vaunted IT system functioning? I year into Arriva negative experience and the public is still awaiting delivery. Shame!!!
j brincat
Jun 25th 2012, 14:23
Why are you complaining?
You can have a sauna in a non air-conditioned bus and for free (only the bus fare)!
(jb)
j brincat
Jun 25th 2012, 14:20
Arriva buses were meant for cold climates and not Malta unless they are fully air-conditioned!
(jb)
mario salnitro
Jun 25th 2012, 14:19
Bravi ghandkom ragiun 100%
John Spiteri
Jun 25th 2012, 14:17
Not all the old buses have been painted white. Some of the old buses are painted turquoise too. The bendy buses are the worst offenders for having no AC and we have narrow slits for open windows. The air is actually cooler outside the bus, even since the heat wave. It is a relief when the doors open at each bus stop! I feel sorry for the bus drivers and have witness complaints being directed at them because of overheating on the bus.
Lucienne Dimech
Jun 25th 2012, 14:16
It is inhuman to expect anybody to spend a whole day driving in our sweltering heat without an airconditioner. Many were the complaints about heat on the old buses in that case nothing could be done but these buses are meant to be equipped with an Ac so why in the world would it be left off? maybe to consume some less diesel? Who cares if need be put up the price of the ticket but to expect a long journey in a bus loaded with sweaty passengers and no Ac is inhuman and unheard of in this day and age. Sometimes it feels like we live in a third world country.
Adrian Grech
Jun 25th 2012, 14:11
sewwa jamlu id drivers.
GL Calleja
Jun 25th 2012, 14:10
Air Conditioning on a bus in Malta should be mandatory. When you see the passengers on a bus without A/C you can hear the sighs and the moaning coming out of these passengers. The people who make the rules are sitting in their offices with A/C or a fan aiming at them. Once you get on that non A/C bus you become a prisoner of the system and why in this day and age? The more we progress, the more we regress. As we can see, the buck did not stop anywhere to be seen, and neither did the incompetence of Arriva and TM. Public transportation is losing faith, both in the air and on the ground, but it seems nobody gives a damn.
j brincat
Jun 25th 2012, 14:04
And to think that the 'zmien tal- buzzulotti' were to be a thing of the past.
They are still with us. And how!
(jb)
Joseph Mifsud
Jun 25th 2012, 14:03
The government brought Arriva to give the impression that the old bus drivers were a bunch of awful 'Hamalli' people. Now Arriva is obliging the drivers to wear the tie in Malta's summer , not even in Norway the police wear a tie, so that they make us think that we live somewhere in northern Europe.
The unions must issue a directive to the drivers so they take of the tie.
Roy Schembri
Jun 25th 2012, 18:09
Good point raised. I believe Arriva's 'diktat' is 'you can't drive properly unless wearing a tie' So where does that leave those driving on Malta's roads without a tie - car drivers included !
Joe B Edwards
Jun 25th 2012, 14:01
I am behind the bus drivers 100% on this issue, which must be resolved asap.
These windowless buses are not meant to be driven without AC, especially in summer with temperatures soaring above 30 degrees Celsius.
Tatiana Heraghty
Jun 25th 2012, 14:25
Well said Joe. I would be one of the passengers requiring medical assistance if I was on one of them buses with no A/C. I can not stand heat due to my health issues. And of course poor drivers are human beings too.
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 14:00
Arriva will soon celebrate it's infamous 1st anniversary in Malta, a year which has caused nothing but upheavels and problems for commuters in all parts of the Island, see today's letters in the Times. As the English say same s*** - different day. After nearly one year of suffering Arriva and Transport Malta's incompetence it is very clear, Arriva is not delivering and must go. Residents want a service that gets them from A to B in the fastest possible time with the least possible interchanges and stress. Transport Malta ignores suggestions from residents who know what they need in their towns and accepts idiotic ideas from foreign consultants who have no idea how Malta operates Yet the Minister does not admit any blame in this fiasco. We Maltese are treated like a lot of idiots who do not know anything. The message is clear, not much has changed or improved over the old Bus service which was tatty but at least we had a service that people needed and we got to work and school on reasob=nable time, nowadays with all the detours and sightseeing tours we are subjected to and with the lost routes we are indeed worse off then before 3rd July 2011. We do not blame the drivers who were promised miracles, the public was misled in believing that Arriva was going to change the transport system in Malta - well it did but for the worse. Whoever created this mess should shoulder responsibility and resign and get someone who can do a good job. In other countries when they changed the bus provider they kept the same routes and numbers, here we changed everything and added to the confusion. The air conditioning issue is just one of many issues with Arriva we commuters are having to go through. Thanks to the knoww it alls who decided they know better then us lesser mortals.
GL Calleja
Jun 25th 2012, 15:55
If the general public thinks that Transport Malta is so incompetent and out of touch why hasn't any of the top management been replaced? We replaced two Ministers why can't we replace the top brass at Transport Malta? If it is not broken don't fix it. But it is very obvious that Arriva is very broke and needs fixing.
j brincat
Jun 25th 2012, 13:57
@Charles Muscat
"This is getting a little bit too much now. How many of you writers use an air-conditioner at home?
Non of the old buses had one anyway. A tip for passengers, buy a portable fan and the environment
will thank you for it."
What is your argument really?
Please let me remind you that we were promised 'state of the art' Euro 5 buses which had obviously to be fully air-conditioned. The Hon Minster said nothing about reconditioned buses and neither do I remember him mentioning bendy buses which were baned from the streets of London.
And remember for this 'state of the art' "service" we are paying through our teeth twofold - increased bus fares and government subsidy (even if this was supposed to be a thing of the PAST)!
So if little things pleases you buy the fan yourself!
(jb)
John Spiteri
Jun 25th 2012, 14:19
Yes but you could open the windows. These buses are like greenhouses on wheels!
Charles Muscat
Jun 25th 2012, 14:27
What state of the art? I was in beautiful Malta last Christmas and I paid E1.50 for a hole day.
What do you expect for that much? This is like Mater Dei hospital everyone complains and nobody pays a cent.
J Farrugia
Jun 25th 2012, 16:56
Mater dei nobody pays a cent, you really are full of it, hello wakey wakey it's called NI and taxes, so unless your s tax/ni dodger your paying too.
In the old buses you could hang halfway out the window if it was too hot, even the coach style ones had openings, this pieces of crap from china are just total and utter crap.
Joseph E Briffa
Jun 25th 2012, 19:14
j brincat.....can I ask you a simple question? How many times have you used the Arriva bus service? Hope you answer truthfully. I use the buses at times and have never encountered any problems, either detours or A/C problems. And I have been using cars with A/C since 1994. I know what I am talking about, but I make allowances for public transport service. Surely one expects a trip from Valetta to Mellieha or Cirkewwa to take an hour at the least. When I want to do it in half an hour, I use my own car. I don't expect a bus from Sliema to Valletta to take less than half-an-hour during the rush hour. Even using my car takes me 20/25 minutes because of rush-hour traffic on weekdays. It has been the same for the two or three decades.
Claire Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 13:55
have the heads of ARRIVA, ever been in summer on one of their busues (which have only small windows) without A/C .....??? IT IS A NIGHTMARE!!!! One can get sick easily.
E. Azzopardi
Jun 25th 2012, 13:54
I cannot comprehend why this cropped up, because before ARRIVA arrived, we were promised, AMONGST MANY OTHER THINGS, that ALL buses will be air conditioned. I boarded three buses without A/C, and I do not use them much, because I find certain routes (especially 225) very very unreliable. It is useless having a website with all timings, if you cannot keep at them. I always maintained that in this country, buses will never be on time. I still cannot understand why we get tickets on the buses, with all that waste of time. Anyway, I still have all the paper cuttings with all that was going to change with ARRIVA, but I am afraid, that a year after ( that is, three times the "honeymoon period") we are far from many of those promises.
NEVER, NEVER MAKE A PROMISE YOU CANNOT KEEP. I have the strong feeling that in two years time, we will be back to square one, from what I can see. ARRIVA must really pull its sock up. We are not there.
N. Agius
Jun 25th 2012, 13:47
Arriva is the worst company we could have gone for. Apart from this air conditioning problem.. they replaced the 232 bus from Mater dei to Mellieha which took 30 minutes by a new route 37 which takes over 1 hour! The X1 service was supposed to be more frequent but this did not happen!
Shame on you Arriva.
Joe Fenech
Jun 25th 2012, 14:34
Arriva functions perfectly in London. It's the Malta Transport authority and Austin Powers' friends who were contracted to plan the routes who are at fault.
Robert Zammit
Jun 25th 2012, 14:57
Same me too, Yesterday Mellieha to Sliema take 222, wait than 1 hour and time almost afternoon. killing me.
Louis Pisani
Jun 25th 2012, 15:09
They also axed the Mosta part of routeX3 leaving the inhabitants of Mosta high and dry as regards the airport and Rabat.
John Scerri
Jun 25th 2012, 13:43
The buses are in a horrible state. dents, near misses, super noisey and all.
Some drivers now drive worse than the old drivers, no indicators , over speeding , and all.
This so called Bus 'Service?' is in serious need of a review, repair, replace.
Just only 1 year ago we were promised everything except what we have now .
The time to amend and adjust is over .
What we see today will be what we will have in the coming years and the picture is far from a bus 'SERVICE'
Charles Muscat
Jun 25th 2012, 13:25
This is getting a little bit too much now. How many of you writers use an air-conditioner at home?
Non of the old buses had one anyway. A tip for passengers, buy a portable fan and the environment
will thank you for it.
M Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 13:48
You are right none of the old buses had AC but they had windows, remember ?
These buses should have all their windows altered os that they can be opened if needed.
An AC helps, but with an AC you only get the same stale air going round. An open window will not let cool air in but you do get fresh air.
V. Cauchi
Jun 25th 2012, 13:50
Let us get horse blinkers because none of the old buses had an a/c.
Problem is we lack maintenance in many a projects on the island and I wonder what will happen to the new Parliament building and roofless theatre in a couple of years when the one-time special vehicle funds dry out.
How sarcastic to mention a portable fan in the circumstance! As if apologists have to justify every wrong step taken by the government.
Kevin Kevin
Jun 25th 2012, 13:55
Mr Muscat,
do you have air conditioning at YOUR place of work? Why not suggest to turn it off this summer..
..the environment will thank you for it.
Claire Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 13:57
it seem you never used ARRIVA in summer
Charles Muscat
Jun 25th 2012, 14:09
I agree with M. Borg but not with V. Cauch. Who mentioned the government? and who mentioned special vehicle funds? What is wrong by using a portable fan? I live in Sydney and many car users use a tiny fan in their cars. You need to mingle with people my friend so you will mature.
Charles Muscat
Jun 25th 2012, 14:20
Dear Kevin Kevin, thank you for your reply. My nature of work in Sydney is traveling from one place to an other. I use my car air-con. mostly on a freeway when I'm doing 110klm per hour. In suburbs I do not use air-con. cause the engine slows me down and consumption goes through the roof. At home I hardly ever use it cause now in Australia we have a labor government and electricity sky rocketed.
Sam Tanti
Jun 25th 2012, 14:35
You have a point, but, the old buses had large windows to open or plenty of windows and although they where not allowed, the old drivers used to leave the door open. If Arriva and TM have a contract which includes having AC in all its buses, then they should have it in ALL their buses
R. Cilia
Jun 25th 2012, 22:32
Dear Charles Muscat,from your comment I can conclude that you do not mingle with people( your own words) because you are still without the portable fan!!!!!!Grow up.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 13:24
The first thing , the then Honourable Joseph as the then future PM, is the public trusts him with a mandate, should not be IVF, but sending Arriva as an operator home. The contract with Arriva has been violated, raped and murdered by this company.
What really is ironic, is the news from the Law Courts, ... 30 months for a miserable driver? what he stole or misappropriated was quantified.
What Arriva stole from this country, in productive man hours, ..... the death penalty should be reintroduced?
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 13:19
Oh dear you can go on and on, This week from University roundabout, around 23 passengers left stranded for 90 minutes in the blazing sun, driver just did not bother to stop. The punishment could be: 1) Retaining, or 2) Dismissal.
As if these guys care?, no fine?, kick me out?,. after they as drivers, taste the way Arriva treats them, they know they are better off signing off, for social assistance. So at the end of the day drivers do benefit, those punished remain and will always be, the bus users.
j brincat
Jun 25th 2012, 13:18
@Giov DeMartino
"We have ALWAYS been used to airconditioned buses"
Of course not Mr DeMartino! But then Mr Gatt promised us Euro 5 buses (saying nothing about reconditioned ones) which were supposed to be fully air-conditioned. Neither did he say anything about bendy buses which were removed from the streets of London. And remember that we are paying extra for their 'service'.
Seems that the 'buzzullotti' are still with us!
(jb)
Peter Kennedy
Jun 25th 2012, 13:06
The GWU is quite correct to take this action, if Arriva promised and were contracted to supply buses with air conditioning then they have a duty to supply them, they are also in breach of their 10 year contract until they DO supply them, the bendy buses that came off the streets of London would not have had AC in that theatre but surely it is not rocket science to install it.
The 'King Long' buses built in China should have been delivered with AC, you should also be aware that the bus will use roughly 10% more fuel with AC running...no small potatoes with the price of fuel these days.
Arriva was a decent company before it was taken over by Deutsche Bahn, the next time you see your GWU driver you should give him a pat on the back for standing up for Your rights.
C Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 13:42
Arriva has become a well run company SINCE Deutsche Bahn took over. Having German busniness culture injected into the company is exactly waht was needed. The fact that the Maltese who are employed by the company don't have the mental aptitude to work in a structured and progressive environment says it all really. Time to bring in employees from other EU countries where work and providing a service is taken seriously.
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 14:04
The big mistake was in signing a ten-year contract without giving Arriva a trial run to see how they fared, the reality is that Arriva has flopped hopelessly and because someone clever decided to sign a contract for 10 years - it seems we are now lumped with them. When you start a new job you have 6 months probation and even 1 year in some areas, yet no probation for Arriva - we are stuck with them for 10 years it seems. Between Transport Malta and Arriva the bus service has gone from bad to worse not better.
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 13:00
Apat from the AC the routes are still a mess. last Saturday I waited for the number 1 bustoSenglea for one and a half hours at the Valletta terminus. Unless and until the routes are back to what they were before the new disservice was introduced we will still not be properly served.
J Cachia
Jun 25th 2012, 13:14
This bus service (What bus service????) is a total mess! After one year we are still without a decent public transport service. Nobody seems to be taking any interest in the plight of the passengers— not the Government nor the provider! It is maddening waiting in the sweltering sun for a bus that never comes.
Shame on whoever came up with the new routes!
Shame on Arriva!
Give us back the old service and dump Arriva! We shall be better of!
GL Calleja
Jun 25th 2012, 14:01
This whole public transportation service has been a fiasco from the start and it still is. In fact the PM himself took over the helm because of the incompetence of the Transportation Minister and the in competence of Transport Malta. Remember the famous words by the PM? " The buck stops here." So The Minister went into hiding and nothing was ever accomplished. NO A/C ON BUSES? NO DRIVERS, and NO RIDERS. The old buses had no A/C that is why they switched to the newer buses. But?
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Antoine Ferrito
Jun 25th 2012, 12:58
Promises promises...."zmien il-buzullotti spicca."..u nitqannaw b'servizz medjokri u karozzi li kienu ghar-rimi u ddubbajna bihom ahna...bhas-soltu. Pajjiz tat-tilqit, weghdi fl-arja u l-poplu jbaxxi rasu ghar-rieda tal-mexxejja sinjuri li ghandna. L-aqwa li huma bil BMW u bil-helicopter u bil-Jet u b'hames mitt ewro fil-gimgha pocket money.
Giovanni Rizzo
Jun 25th 2012, 12:56
F'sitwazzjoni bhal din mhux ta' b'xejn li terga tuza l-karoza tieghek. Certu rotot jiehdu l-fuq minn siegha u kwart.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 12:48
The GWU, of whom I am not a fan, has taken action on the Arriva Drivers situation relating to Air-conditioning, wow.
Many, too many have suffered at the hands of this company, which does not, I repeat, does not have, at heart the interest of the general commuter.
Having said that, neither do the politicians, of one side or the other. This problem of air-conditioning has been know since day one, these junk buses from foreign and local scrapyards have been dumped on the Island.
In Winter it was hell on earth to travel in a closed bus big, small, or Bendy, with the heaters on, even in the coldest of days. Passengers have fallen ill, even in winter.
Now, that a nine / ten month summer is here, Arriva has the nerve to say things are improving, whilst every one knows, Bendy Buses DO NOT HAVE AIR-CONDITIONING, they have head ripping noisy blowers, with no fresh air at all, and to add insult to injury, the engines on all these buses emit internally intense amount of heat.
That is not all. For those who want to be candidates for lung cancer, then they should definitely use Arriva. On every Arriva bus, one finds fine carbon exhaust particles throughout these buses. One only has to pass his finger anywhere or look at the openings of these air ducts, they are filthy with carbon. At times air is unbreathable.
Also, with the blackening of windows, since Arriva all of a sudden is not using adhesive plastic that is reflecting the suns rays, the suns rays are entrapped, serving the commuters as if they were tomatoes in a glass house.
But having mentioned vegetables, one should not leave out animals. Some get fined tens of thousands for animal cruelty, Arriva gets away with murder. And secondly, I think there comes a time, whereby Politicians stop playing with their toys and look at the real suffering of people. They are treated worst than animals.
For any one in the house of representatives that says we are looking into things, and the Transport authority, meets every six months to review things, Six Months?, ... In my life I have seen , so many six months , that 50 years had passed, to see a change in the transport system. Only to have a window at my seat , taken away from me, for the sake of aesthetics, or for how nice a bus may look?, or for some European Union regulation or Directive?, Hell with the EU, then.
There seems to be oppression from all angles. The whole country, with the exception of that 3 or 4 % that earn the equivalent of the rest of us all together, have been thrown in Poverty, and now not only are they suffocating financially, but even physically.
joe vella
Jun 25th 2012, 12:47
Remember Austin Gatt claiming that all the newly saddled in buses will be fitted out with the proper Eur engines, Arriva livery and colours and fitted with airconditioning plus other amenities by MAY 2012
well austiin another of your famous promises on the rocks!!
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 15:12
He was "only obeying orders"!! Mmm?
L. Thomas
Jun 25th 2012, 12:28
Remember, it was said that ALL Arriva buses would have airconditioning installed by summer when the extra white buses were introduced into the service. Another lie...... One fully understands that drivers would not want to drive buses without A/C in such hot weather. And what about the poor passengers??........ Nobody cares, as usual.
Arthur Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 12:27
Fellow readers and bus commuters. I have noticed that certain routes are being threated by Arriva as not being so important and that anything will do. Route 54 example is served only by busses which have been taken over from the old bus fleet and like all the rest of the old busses they still dont have any AC apart from all the rattling and vibration created whilst driving.
If we where promised by Arriva that the bus services will have AC as a standard then how about spending a week noting down which buses have no airconditioning including timing, bus route number and bus number plate and then at the end of the week all of us present a complaint at the Consumer Affairs department in St. Venera against Arriva? I think that will get Arriva management off their behinds and start to take concrete action!
Fred Vella
Jun 25th 2012, 12:25
Yes, good for them. Look at the buses all broken and the noise they are doing.
John L Galea
Jun 25th 2012, 12:22
Well done by these drivers. Last week I went back home using a bus without airconditioning and it was like a hell trip.
Mr Lawrence Mifsud
Jun 25th 2012, 12:15
Bad service all around.
Arriva was to have air conditioned buses set at 23celcius: this is repeated 'ad nausiam' by its rep on a local radio station phone-in programme.
Drivers and commuters are paying for it and they must get it.
After saying that, is it the right decision by the Union? Transport is already inadequate; the protest makes it worse. Can another way be found? PLEASE!
Anthony Arpa
Jun 25th 2012, 12:14
Kulhadd huwa lest li jisma l-ilmenti tac Cittadini
Imma hadd jew ftit li wisq huma dawk li jaghtu kaz ta l-ilmenti tac Cittadini .
Paroli Si Fatti No
Anthony Pace
Jun 25th 2012, 12:14
Good for the GWU.
These buses should have all been air-conditioned by the end of May with new engiines. Instead I see some of the older buses painted in white or the Gozitan buses which were newer painted in grey still. The state of the art transport system which doesn't seem to want to function should have been up and running smoothly by now. (A bit like the state of the art hospital!!! - not yet fully functional after 5/6 years)
Austin Gatt should have told the bus drivers to get the new buses themselves and give them a deadline by which to acquire them. We would have got value for money such as European buses instead of Chinese ones that do not break down so much. Now we are saddled with Arriva till the next election when hopefully the buses will be nationalised again and the junk buses such as dangerous bendy ones thrown out of the island.
John Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 12:11
To all complaining about these actions, be sincere, how many of you are regular bus commuters or better than this how many of you ever boarded one of these buses???
Gary Jameson
Jun 25th 2012, 14:19
I have my friend, every day for the past three years as I use a bus to commute to work.
Victor Buhagiar
Jun 25th 2012, 16:09
I was on Arriva just this morning, to be honest the ac was working and the driver very courteous but the service is still way away I was in Fleur d'Lys and took me 2 hours to reach Siggiewi thank God I wasn't in a hurry and mind you I had to make a 30 minute walk because buses pass on the hour. Not so much for a reliable service
Carmen Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 12:04
mela karozzi bhal dawk tista toqghod fihom minghajr air conditioning. l-aktar meta tkun mimlija sa ruh ommha. anqas naqra nifs ma tista tiehu.
Michael Camileri
Jun 25th 2012, 12:01
not to complain about the great idea of air-conditioning, because I welcome them... but, the temperatures are near freezing when the air conditioning is turned on... which is at times worse than being too hot
josephine CACHIA
Jun 25th 2012, 12:00
Grazzi,w zommu sod..Arriva bla AC ,iggibna f sitwazzjoni ferm ghar milli konna qabel ,ax bla twieqi ukoll..plus li qed nhallsu izjed ghal servizz ahjar suppost...
josephine CACHIA
Jun 25th 2012, 11:56
Grazzi,u zommu sod..Arriva bla AC ,iggibna f sitwazzjoni ferm ghar milli konna qabel ,ax bla twieqi ukoll..
Isola Danti
Jun 25th 2012, 11:52
Of course the drivers have all the right to act, GWU or not, it's an issue of working condition. Not to mention the passengers also suffer a great deal in those very much closed buses without AC. Being a big multinational public transport company, Arriva should be obliged to equip every bus with AC in Malta.
Beppe Pisani
Jun 25th 2012, 11:42
Froga ohra ta' Austin Gatt!.........bilkemm kien hawn xi hadd darba li qal li super Austin biex ikun xi CEO ta' xi multinational!
Bidillu forsi!
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 11:39
Inconvenient for travellers but the drivers are well justified. Yet another deadline comes and goes and more broken promises from Arriva who made such grand pre-launch statements that were, from the outset, virtually impossible to honour. They bid for the contract and gave binding assurances in doing so and one year on they have still failed to fully deliver. Not good.
C Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 11:37
Euro u 50 cents imma suppost inkluz l-aircondition.... suppost
Robert Zammit
Jun 25th 2012, 14:58
sure you need buy 50c / without A/C, Accept ?
Adrian Pavia
Jun 25th 2012, 11:37
Ma jistax ikun nibqghu sejrin b'dal-kummiedji bl-arriva. Hemm bzonn li xi hadd jurijom li hawnhekk nixtiequ servizz sejru kif konna mwieghda. Jien ma nemminx li l problema enormi tas sistema ta l-IT ma jistawx isibu tarfa. Il-problema hija li ma jridux jonfqu flus ghax il kumpanija ga falluta wara sena. Ezempju car huma l karozzi gravi li gabu malta.
J Cachia
Jun 25th 2012, 11:26
Ghandhom ragun ix-xufiera ma jsuqux bla airconditioners. Anki l-passiggieri jbatu! U tinsewx, ahna konna mwieghda l-airconditioners ... u bla buzullotti wkoll!Kulhadd jaf jordna mill-ufficcju tieghu frisk bhal hassa ghax hu ghandu l-arja kundizzjonata.
Sarah Agius Bezzina
Jun 25th 2012, 11:25
Vetturi minghajr aircondition fil-gurnata tal-llum misshom lanqas biss jersqud lejn pajjizna!!
Victor Buhagiar
Jun 25th 2012, 11:25
Where is Dr AUstin Gatt now or as usual all his pompous talk is just smoke (to be polite)?
laura anderson
Jun 25th 2012, 11:22
Thanks to the drivers having the guts to strike over this. Its like an oven on those buses without tha AC. Hope it all gets resolved quickly.
Frank Abela
Jun 25th 2012, 11:17
As far as I know, way back in November when some old busses were addded to the network and these busses did not have the A/C, Euro V engines and official Arriva colours, it was promised that by end of May 2012 all these points would have been tackled ON ALL BUSSES. Is this another ARRIVA promise broken?
Gary Jameson
Jun 25th 2012, 14:18
In essence, Frank. Yes.
The only way around solving the problems with Arriva is for the government sack them and re-tender the public transport concession. Accept a quality and ensure that the contract is properly regulated.
Joseph Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 11:11
Hang on why on earth should Arriva operate buses WITHOUT Air con???!!!! Wasn't this supposed to be state of the art Austin Gatt.
It is the public that should refuse to board buses without air con at the price they have to pay!!!!!
M Zammit
Jun 25th 2012, 11:08
I think the drivers are doing the right thing,by putting there foot down! i catch buses daily from sliema, ive seen too many people feel sick,panic attacks and so on.A full bus without any windows open and no a/c is madness in this heat.
Very true we did not have A/c's with the old buses ,but at least back then they used to keep them well ventilated! now we are paying more for a better service which should include a/c.
Joe Fenech
Jun 25th 2012, 10:58
What? Because the junk you drove 2 years ago had AC? Buffoons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R Micallef
Jun 25th 2012, 11:15
no, they didn't, but at least they had windows so air circulated as soon as the bus started moving! on the other hand, the new buses become greenhouses on wheels without an A/C!
Carmel Dimech
Jun 25th 2012, 11:17
Listen we're paying more for a better service suppose ok, so don't compare it with 2 years ago. Its Hell in those busses without opening a window with all this heat. If you think they're buffons go and drive one yourself and see how it feels.
C Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 11:33
l-uniku buffoon huwa dak li jikteb minghajr ma jkun jaf xejn fuq suggett
1- 80% tax-xuffiera mhux l-istess xuffiera ta' qabel
2. il-karrozzi tal-linja l-antiki kellhom dik li tissejjah tieqa, taf x'inhi tieqa ? window ?
3- Il-prezz tal-biljett huwa 100% aktar minn ta' qabel ghax suppost hemm l-aircondition
4- Ghamel xi 40 minuta f'karrozza mimlija minghajr aircondition u bla twieqi ha naraw kemm int hero u gharef
NOT EVEN THE BASICS u trid titkellem
Ghaddiet sena u dik li l-poplu malti kollu kien jixtieq li tkun riforma success saret holma kerha, kuljum b'xhaga b'xi disastru mhux ta' xejn l-arriva saru jirreferu ghalihom bhala disastru fuq ir-roti.
Nies bhalek ghandhom iharsu fil-mera u jghidu ta' kuljum m'ghandiex niftah halqi u nghid il-hmerijiet ghax naqta figura ahjar. Dan kollu minhabba dik is-sahta ta' politika, Kont taf ? li anke nazzjonalisti jirkbu l-arriva kont taf li hemm nazzjonalisti fost ix-xuffiera ?
Joe Fenech
Jun 25th 2012, 11:36
The old buses did have windows which one could open when these functioned, but the old buses also very old engines which blew in extremely hot heat.
These drivers never opened their mouth when they were the owners themselves.
M Grima
Jun 25th 2012, 11:39
Before you start shooting from the hip and trying to sarcastic try to spend half an hour on one of these buses which operates without an A/C and than you can freely have your say, if you have any breath left. People are boarding the buses having to pay increased prices on Arriva's promise that the A/C is operative. And this is supposed to be a state of the art transport service!! Well Arriva have got a fancy name and a nice livery, but they are an arrogant lot, especially their management style of intimidation, and they do not deliver what was promised.
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 11:45
No, we all know that they didn't have AC but there was a fresh and constantly moving airflow from open windows and (despite the obvious health and saftery issues) open doors! Apart from that Arriva promised that all buses would be air conditioned. A deal is a deal and if it is broken then those direectly involved have a right to protest. It would be good to see TM supporting the drivers and bringing pressure to bear upon Arriva to comply with their contract. Are they being penalised I wonder?
George Tabone
Jun 25th 2012, 11:45
are you being serious????by any chance have you ever went on an Arriva bus without AC???? you are buffoooonn we were promised AC on all buses and that is what we are supposed to have .... punto e basta
W Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 11:54
Before you name call I think you should ponder on these factors...we pay more now but dont get the service advertised... these buses have no windows and some routes are longer. Not to mention that in the old buses the drivers used to install a small fan next to them ..... now who is the Buffoon again?
Carmen Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 12:05
no they didn't have AC. but we could open the windows and get some fresh air in.
Ms Xaxa Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 12:18
@Joe Fenech
Buffoons ...!!!!! hmmmmmm, I guess you are NOT an arriva driver, and nor are you a passenger.
Shall I remind you, that the old buses, had wide windows, ok still it was warm, very warm, but at least some kind of air came in.
Let me remind you too all the bull....t Austin Gatt said, nearly a year ago..SPICCAW IL BUZULOTTI!!!... We where promised heaven on earth, and we got hell in summer.
Now I heared too that many routes have missing buses, so God help us to get back home.
Thanks Austin Gatt.
Lawrence Fenech
Jun 25th 2012, 12:20
@ R. Micallef.
You are so right. Agreed.
Biker Man
Jun 25th 2012, 12:55
To all responding to Joe Fenech's comment: The old buses had windows yes (not even all of them though) but one could consider himself lucky if he was strong enough to actually be able to slide the jammed windows open. Pieces of junk they were, and now we complain because there is no AC ! That's called progress my friends, something us selfish humans can never get enough of, and we keep on complaining forever. (especially if the party in government and who brought the much needed changes is not the one we support) hehehe ...... sour grapes
Joe Naudi
Jun 25th 2012, 13:06
i fully agreet with you Mr Joe Fenech, None of the Junk, that is the old buses had any airconditioning besides that all the seats were so uncomfortable to sit on. Why do people complain all the time, when we now have new and comfortable buses. J P Naudi
Steve Zammit
Jun 25th 2012, 13:19
WINDOWS
M. Bezzina
Jun 25th 2012, 13:39
tider lil min tissaportja!!!Sur Fenek
Anthony Grech
Jun 25th 2012, 10:58
Thank You General Workers' Union. Thank You Drivers. It is Hell to travel in these buses without air condition, but ofcourse the BIGHEADS AT CASTILLE do not know what it means.
B Grech
Jun 25th 2012, 10:56
For those of you commenting that the drivers were happy to work without aircon on the old buses clearly never rode on a bus. The old buses had windows, the new ones don't. Riding on an Arriva bus without aircon during the summer is inhumane, let alone driving one all day long!
P BORG
Jun 25th 2012, 10:55
Madoffi x'gharukaza.... XI karrozzi tal-linja m'ghandhom "er-kondixin"!!!!!
F'hiex gabuna .... bl-"er-kondixin" fuq ix-xarabank...
Sewwa jghidu kemm konna ahjar meta konna aghar..... (ghax vera konna aghar!!!)
Leon Mercieca
Jun 25th 2012, 11:12
Imma kellna twieqi!!!!!!! issa mgħandniex!!!
P BORG
Jun 25th 2012, 11:39
@ Leon Mercieca
Yep.... Kollha kellhom it-twieqi.... u kollha kienu jinfethu ..... "NOT"!!!!!
Reinhard Azzopardi
Jun 25th 2012, 13:42
Fil-fatt jekk tiftakru sew, kien hemm numru ta karozzi tal-linja mill-antiki (hekk imsejjha "coaches" li ma kellhomx twieqi jinfethu u fl-1995 kienu gieghluhom jaghmlu bicca mit-tieqa tinfetah.
Charles Muscat
Jun 26th 2012, 02:28
I like your comment. When I lived in Malta I never opened a window on a bus cause they rattle too much and scary too.
J Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 10:55
Finally some action has been taken...I hope arriva fixes this problem immediately.Hardly any excuses are left about these teething problems are there?
V. Cauchi
Jun 25th 2012, 10:53
Let us be realistic: there are no windows to open, unless the driver opts to drive with an open door if this is not against the law. Even so, passengers at the far end inside would not be able to get a breath of fresh air.
We tried reinventing the wheel, but one year on we might have only learnt the old mill-stone with sliding windows was mason cut for Malta!
Ramon Casha
Jun 25th 2012, 10:52
The drivers are right. I wouldn't want to spend the entire day in a hot bus without air conditioning or windows.
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 10:49
One of the boasts with the new system was that buses were to be equipped with AC. So i don't see why the usual boot lickers are complaining because drivers refuse to operate buses without AC. After all it is to our benefit that the AC works. The argument that the old buses had no AC is stupid. Arriva stareted on the wrong footing and problems will never go awawy unless it's scrapped and sterted from scratch with proper and sensible planning meaning TM left out of the project.
Ms Xaxa Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 12:22
@ Victor Pulis.
AMEN.
T.F. Busuttil
Jun 25th 2012, 10:45
What about the consumers who are paying full fair for an air-conditioned bus? where are the consumers rights?
donald borg
Jun 25th 2012, 10:43
I assume that the contract with Arriva stipulate that buses are to be airconditioned.Then the buses are to be airconditioned full stop.It seems that some maltese people are prepared to accept conditions which exist in third world coiuntries.Thanks to the government for the change in the quality of life that buses are to be airconditioned and its up to transport malta that they take action that Arriva abides with the contract. It seems that the Honourable Prime Minister has to intervene so that things start moving. I trust that Transport Malta will expedite the neccessary action with Arriva.
Mr phil sam
Jun 25th 2012, 10:40
" passengers had been taken ill ". could this not also be caused, by the time spent on the buses.
Alfred Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 13:41
, .... but also with polluted air inside the bus. And of course the long wait in the sun for this hell ride
Sarah Agius Bezzina
Jun 25th 2012, 10:40
sewwa qed jaghmlu x-xufiera tal-Arriva li jistrakjaw!
Il-pakkett li gie imwieghed minn Arriva mhux qieghed jigi moghti lill-pubbliku u ahna mhux sa naccettaw u nbaxxu rasna ghal servizz medjokri.
Edward Curmi
Jun 25th 2012, 11:08
mela issa jekk tuza L-Arriva oqghod stenna fix xemx ghax mhemmx bizzejjed xuffiera!!!
Etienne Galea
Jun 25th 2012, 10:39
I confirm that numerous buses either do not have AC at all or not functioning, or at least that is what I am told when I ask. If the AC is not functioning the buses should not be put into service, minimum!
j brincat
Jun 25th 2012, 10:37
Isn't air conditioning on Arriva buses supposed to be the norm?
What changed?
(jb)
G Mangion
Jun 25th 2012, 10:36
Arriva drivers refuse to drive buses without airconditioning:
Agree. But the Drivers should NOT have left the faulty a c's without reporting them to be fixed by Summer,
They had all Winter to do so and not leave it for the last second and cause kaos to the Passengers ! Who's fault it realy is ??? I Wonder..............!
G. Mangion.
Clint sammut
Jun 25th 2012, 11:51
don't comment if u don't know the story
G Mangion
Jun 25th 2012, 18:04
@ Clint sammut:
1st dont tell me what to comment and how I have my say as much as you ( We are a Free Country)
2 nd,How Much do you know about this so called story you mentioned ? people like you should be made Ministers of the press since you .................................. yea I wonder why now !
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jun 25th 2012, 10:32
It is a fact that passengers and drivers cannot use these buses unless the air-conditioning is operative especially when these buses do not have open windows.
It is impossible to work under these conditions during the day in our hot summers in Malta.
However, what I disapprove of is the fact that the GWU should be more reasonable and discuss with the management these problems, rather than taking industrial action which will undoubtedly harm the passengers, the employees and the company in question.
Militancy and strike actions should be measures of last resort!
“Bil-kelma ‘t-tajjba, toħroġ il-ġurdien mit-toqba”.
JC.
Joe Naudi
Jun 25th 2012, 13:17
Dear Mr Joseph Cauchi
The old buses did not have any airconditioning and the owner who drove his own bus never complained to the GWU, so why are the drivers now complaining when we have a better service or is it because they are working for a foreign company who treat their employees quite well, with better working conditions. If the drivers are always compaining about anything they do not like then they should not have accepted the job and they should leave the job if they do not like it and find something better. All the drivers do, they are continually complaining on anything they do not like in this new transport service. Joe P Naudi
R. Cilia
Jun 25th 2012, 13:47
Mangion and Cauchi, don't be so naive. Do you think that those responsible did no know about the problem with AC's ? Cauchi bil-kelma t-tajba l-AC's mkissrin jibqghu!!!
Victor Pulis
Jun 25th 2012, 10:30
One of the boasts with the new system was that buses were to be equipped with AC. So i don't see why the usual boot lickers are complaining because drivers refuse to operate buses without AC. After all it is to our benefit that the AC works. The argument that the old buses had no AC is stupid. Arriva stareted on the wrong footing and problems will never go awawy unless it's scrapped and sterted from scratch with proper and sensible planning meaning TM left out of the project.
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 15:40
Victor, These sentiments were expressed by many early on in the "regime change" and I tended to disagree at that stage giving them (Arriva) the benefit of the doubt and hoping things would settle down within a reasonable timescale.... WRONG WRONG WRONG! The Maltese have been taken for a ride but not the one they were promised or have paid for and it may well now be time for some fresh thinking and positive action. I fear the passage of time will see a further deterioration as the vehicles age and require much higher levels of maintenece and care. I haven't seen them for over six months but I gather they are already showing signs of "wear and tear".
Andrew Holland
Jun 26th 2012, 08:48
@James Dewar
Sadly, I fear you are correct. If only the Maltese took a look at how Arriva operates much of its companies in the UK before you awarded the contract you might have been spared them! Sure in London Arriva function well but that's most likely because they have such massive competition and of course have TfL imposing and enforcing standards in their route contracts with Arriva. In the rest of the UK, Arriva is often a byword for shoddy, scruffy buses and poor service standards. As for Malta, I truly think the service has already been the best it's ever going to be. 1 year on and that the passenger information system is still not fully working (why not?) does not bode well for the future, nor does the increasingly ramshackle state of some of the buses, especially the oldest buses inherited from ATP and of course the Mercedes articulated buses. I've never regarded Arriva as being great at keeping a bus in good order, they will always be safe but just don't except the fancy things, oh like air con and cctv, to stay working throughout the 10 year contract. If the buses even survive 10 years at the hands of Arriva and the Maltese roads I would be very surprised. Of course the mistake was with TM for letting a 10 year contract to a company the Maltese are unfamiliar with in the first place, is there a get-out clause for poor performance I wonder - and if there isn't, why isn't there one? Why didn't TM just go and ask TfL how to run a busy bus network on a contracted basis and you'd have got all you needed to know, without paying for consultants! God bless you Malta for you certainly could do with his intervention!
Edward Curmi
Jun 25th 2012, 10:28
smells of GWU again...give us a break!!!
Luke Falzon
Jun 25th 2012, 11:41
You did not even bother reading the article, did you? You simply felt the need to pointlessly spout crap at anything the GWU does. Did you by any chance skip the part where it said that passengers were taken ill? Do you even know that these "new" buses, and I use the term new loosely, are sealed shut with no air circulation? Have you realised that it is already sweltering hot, let alone being stuck in a confined place with no windows and no air-conditions with other people all breathing the same hot air?
I am sure you did not do all this because if you did you would not have felt the need to give us your useless input. But of course, by all means defend those who have enacted the inferior bus service, and in the mean time pray to whatever deity you believe in, or yourself if you lack belief, that you will not need to use the public transport with no a/c.
John Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 11:47
Well if you happen to be on one of these buses, I think you will be smelling what's under your arm pit without having to raise your hand! Then you can have a break smelling other aromas from your fellow passengers.
James Dewar
Jun 25th 2012, 21:03
Thankfully someone is prepared to take a stand on behalf of the travelling public and the GWU should be supported in their efforts.
David Mangion
Jun 25th 2012, 10:28
Kont, ghadni, u nibqa nghidha..........
L-aqwa progett kapitali li seta jaghmel il-gvern ta GonziPN ma kellux ikun il-progett ta Bieb il-Belt, IMMA L-BINI TA SISTEMA TA UNDERGROUND TRANSPORT bhal tal-ibliet ewlenin tal-Ewropa.
Ahna ninsabu fl-istat tal-biki, fejn qed nahsbu biex nghamlu underground bejn Malta u Ghawdex......imma lanqas ghadna bdejna nahsbu kif se naghmlu sistema ta underground ghal Malta.
Underground transport system ghandna dawn il-vantaggi.
1- Trains always on time. (m'hemmx skuza ta traffic jams).
2- L-industrija tal-kostruzzjoni tibqa ghaddejja ghal tul ta snin, minghajr ma tkompli tifqa' Malta bil-bini.
3-Jonqos it-traffiku mit-toroq.
4-Elementi klimatici ma jeffettwawx hafna, f'sistema ta underground.
5-Jizdiedu l-impiegi, u n-negozji li joperaw fl-istazzjonijiet tal-undergroung.
WE DON'T HAVE TO RE-INVENT THE WHEEL......IF IT WORKS IN THE MAJOR CITIES WORLDWIDE, THEN IT IS PROBABLY FEASIBLE EVEN IN MALTA.
Sarah Agius Bezzina
Jun 25th 2012, 11:23
naqbel perfettament
D. A . Agius
Jun 25th 2012, 12:16
Still an interesting, but difficult idea.
Francesca Abela
Jun 25th 2012, 13:01
Good idea this, but dear Austin thought he re invented the wheel because he brought in a new Bus operator in Malta, the realty is that nothing much has changed, kemm konna ahjar meta konna aghar is what many Maltese say! I find it amazing that in huge cities like London the public transport runs smoothly yet in tiny Malta which would fit into central London, the bus system is a total shambles and no one shoulders responsibility!
simon ellul sullivan
Jun 25th 2012, 10:26
Wow they finally found a valid reason to strike... It was bound to happen eventually
Andrew Azzopardi
Jun 25th 2012, 10:25
The bendy buses on routes 12 and 13 are like mobile saunas. They are packed to the rafters, no air conditiong, and windows that do not open.
Kevin Camilleri
Jun 25th 2012, 10:21
Being a daily Arriva commuter, I must say that the service has improved drastically! However, I cannot not comment on how, a year on, the electronic displays are not working both on Bus Stops and on the Buses themselves and on how we still have buses without air conditioning.
Kenneth Muscat
Jun 25th 2012, 12:28
yes it has improved ,but still a lot to do.1) Bendy buses are Horrible ( I have to ride the X3 every day) Some drivers have to be more educated in driving and how to dress (some of them with no tie and the shirt out of their pants).the display inside the buses are still Indicating chinese places . And Some of the Buses are dirtier than the old ones.
X Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 10:21
Arriva, this is Malta, this is summer and its very hot. You don't need to be an expert to realise this.
After all we are paying a fare that should have factored in these requirements or have we been cutting corners with old Arriva buses from UK.
A Dimech
Jun 25th 2012, 10:21
I'm sorry but I cannot but fail to understand home some people still blame GWU and the unions for this. What is next? Blame the worker? Buses were PROMISED and GUARANTEED they they are all WITH AC. We were promised that they are of a certain high level even if they are of the old system.
Promises, promises, promises. . .people that blame the GWU should be ashamed of themselves. Put yourself in the driver's shoes for once!
J Abela
Jun 25th 2012, 11:42
Like J Cachia noted further above: it's easier to comment sitting comfortably in an air-conditioned office... Or maybe some bloggers here do not have one at their workplace and expect everyone to suffer out of jealousness?
Francesca Abela
Jun 25th 2012, 10:16
Ok so when the great Austin launched his 'revol;ution' in the Public transport we were told that ' Now the buses will be brand new -( not) , the buses will be airconditioned ( not), the drivers will be in uniform (ok) the buses will run on time (not) Malta will have a better public transport system ( not) so WHAT EXACTLY HAS IMPROVED? Before 3rd July what passengers complained about is still happening in spite of all the wasted thousands on route changes which were changed back and now no aircondition as well in this heatwave1 Le le Austin should ESIGN - he is responsible for this mess, and what has become of the transport task force chaired by the PM??/ or are they all having a nap??
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 14:08
The Transport Task force was just a smoke screen made up on the spur of the moment when An MP was rocking the boat, we have heard nothing from them since it was set up over 6 months ago, try sending in a complaint and all you get is an acknowledgement and no feedback or information otherwise.
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 15:09
The task force for transport was just a smokescreen to alienate commuters when an MP was creating issues in Parliament, now the task force is dismantled or dormant because they have never done anything to help commuters, just another whitewash to lull us into a false sense that someone is doing something..
When you complain all you get is an acknowledgement and never any feedback. No wonder people have given up wasting tel calls to Arriva and Transport Malta. Transport Malta should do a freephone like Austin Gatt did with Arms, then they will see how many complaints there are.
D. A . Agius
Jun 25th 2012, 10:16
"She said drivers had told her that their colleagues were not driving buses without airconditioning because a number of passengers had been taken ill as the temperatures soared and airconditioning was not used."
The old buses had windows which you could open and open doors to let air circulate. These buses do not.
I suspect as well these issues are mainly related to the buses which had been brought here "temporarily" and which we were assured should meet all standards of service by May or be taken out.
Now if anyone of you shooting down this action want to ride around in a sauna in June/July's Maltese weather, with shade temperatures hitting 32 degrees, let alone a bus staying in the sun all day long with people crammed inside contributing to the heat, then that person is either mad or suicidal.
K. Vella
Jun 25th 2012, 10:14
@ Sur Micallef
These are purely operational problems, why are you trying to motivate such issues politically.
Furthermore, I do agree to protest as customers we were promised that all buses are air-conditioned, and I hope that the union will continue to excercise such pressure.
W Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 10:13
So much for state of the art... we were promised buses with AC, as usual its not exactly true!
Joseph Micallef
Jun 25th 2012, 10:08
My goodness gracious... still problems with Arriva? A year on and STILL with such as disgusting service? And yet we were promised by Austin that we're going to have an excellent service second to none!!! So first we had and still have the route problems, than the lack of time schedule keeping and we were told to show patience due to teething problems, but hey, I can't accept buses without having a functional a/c now!!! They made such a big fuzz about the new comfortable temperature!!!! with the exact, precision guided temperature being guaranteed!!!
And now? And yet, the minister responsible for all this fiasco is still there (part-time due to the other part-time job at the GonziPN HQ)
Alfred Attard
Jun 25th 2012, 10:39
Today bus drivers strike because of the airconditioning. Back in the 70's bus drivers, who most of them were owners used to strike to get a rise in bus fares while the labour government broke their strike by forcing the police and the soldiers to take their buses!!!!
M Mallia
Jun 25th 2012, 11:49
Mr. Attard i'm using the public transport system today not in the 70's.
anthony vella
Jun 25th 2012, 13:06
Lil alfred atttard -meta hadilhom il- buses il-gvern tal-labour,il-gvern hallihom jistrajkjaw u beda juza ix-xarabanks tal-pulizija u takkajiet tas-suldati biex jaqdi in-nies,xaghmel hazin b'daqsekk. Imma id-diskors irid jinghad sew heddidhom li johdilhom il-lizenzja vera (imma fil fatt qatt ma ha) imma qatt ma hadilhom ix-xarabanks.
Joseph Micallef
Jun 25th 2012, 13:07
My oh my Alfred Attard... are you still living in the 70's? 40 years ago???? Unbelievable!!!! Is this your answer and justification to the excellent service promised by your part-time minister Austin Gatt? No matter the country is in deep s**** as we have people like you thinking in a 70's mentality while the whole world has moved towards the 21st century. This makes me more convinced that change is what we urgently need.
Mario Tabone
Jun 25th 2012, 10:06
More disruption by the GWU !!!
Correct me if I am wrong but these are the same buses that people with a political view on their agenda have said are better than the new arriva buses . Cannot have it both ways !!!!
salvu Vella
Jun 25th 2012, 10:20
Mario why do you have to take it on the GWU!! Why are you so close minded. Did by any chance know that the contract between arriva and the gov states that all buses should be airconditioned. Do you by any chance use arriva buses without ac to travel, or you have your own car with AC? Think before you speak, don't make a fool out of yourself!!
Eddy Privitera
Jun 25th 2012, 10:21
Mario Tabone, the problem is that with the new ( or imprted second-hand !) busses, if the air-conditioning system is not working, one can't open a window for some air !
Victor Vella
Jun 25th 2012, 10:24
Sur Tabone What disruption by the GWU?
Mur int ahdem f`din ix-xemx- mhux gewwa tafx. Meta darba mhallef gewwa il-qorti ma hadimx l-airconditioning tefa` bniedem il-habs. Mela itfa` lilek innifsek go dik ix-xemx li tibda tahraq minn filghodu kmieni ahseb u ara fl-eqqel tax-xemx. Kulhadd tajjeb biex iparla. Wistin Gatt hareg jaghajjat bir-revulazzjoni fit-trasport. Lanqas tisthu tparlaw. Din hija ir-revuluzzjoni? Lanqas qatt tghidha din li qeghdin fil-2012 u l-airconditioning ma jahdimx. Issa jmissha il-qorti titfa is-sidien ta` l-Arriva il-habs. Mela il-haddiem biss immur il-habs.
Jeffrey Mallia
Jun 25th 2012, 10:26
GWU disruption ?? Really ?? So you'de expect bus drivers to work without AC ?? I couldn't help to reply Tabone cos your comment made me sick....Really.
Mario Tabone
Jun 25th 2012, 13:05
Wow what a response !!!
@ Salvu Vella,Eddy Privitera ,Victor Vella and Jeffrey Mallia
Yes of course it is disruption by the GWU. Exploiting any means possible to have a go directly or indirectly at either Arriva or the Government !!!
They state that the drivers cannot work without aircon. They also state that they are worried for the passengers. What a load of codswallop !!!
Drivers do have a window so the argument that is being presented is rendered invalid. I do however agree that they should have the comfort of aircon but that is a totally different argument to what is being portrayed.
As far as customers are concerned, albeit that it is not ideal to have such a situation, however I doubt very much if the GWU has any jurisdiction to call a strike under those circumstances.
Making a fool of oneself is obviously Salvu Vella's speciality for trying to defend the GWU's corner without first looking at the facts.
For once I agree with Eddy Privitera that it is not ideal to carry passengers in buses where aircon is not working and windows cannot be opened, however in this instance this was not the argument.
Victor Vella, I refer you to the above, ie, drivers do have windows .
And last but not least to Mallia ( showing you the same courtesy you showed me) who I sincerely hope feels better . If you engage brain before gob you would agree that this is politically motivated and nothing to do with the welfare of drivers or passengers.
Eddy Privitera
Jun 25th 2012, 21:05
mARIO tABONE: WHEN YOU WROTE THAT THE GWU DIRECTIVE WAS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED" YOU LOST ALL THE ARGUMENT !
THIS IS PURE GONZIPN HOGWASH !! WHENEVER THE GWU GIVES AN INDUSTRIAL ACTION DIRECTIVE, IT IS ACCUSED OF A POLITICAL MOTIVE. BUT WHEN THE UHM GIVE A SIMILAR DIRECTIVE, NO SUCH ACCUSATIONS ARE MADE BY GONZIPN COMMENTATORS !!!!!!!!!!!!
Albert Farrugia
Jun 25th 2012, 10:06
One must remember that having air-conditioning on buses was one of the main pillars on which the new system rested. Infact, last year, during the extreme confusion which reigned during the first months of operation of the service, much was made by one government apologist after another that "at least the buses are air-conditioned, not like before". The idea was, ok, the new service has let us down, but, hey, stop moaning because at least you are comfortable on the buses. And now?
Marika Fenech
Jun 25th 2012, 10:32
Well said Mr Farrugia.
I am a regular user of the Arriva bus service and can vouch that a long journey such as the one I take from Marsascala to Valletta return is airless without air-conditioning. This is not a question of blaming the GWU or anybody else. Arriva have a contract with the Government and they should stick to each clause.
Good week to one and all.
M Mallia
Jun 25th 2012, 11:56
It was the ONLY thing which was supposed to be better. Commuting times have certainly not been reduced, which was impossible to achieve due to the reduction in the fleet of buses. And I do not care whether or not the driver 'jidej tnej' along the road; The important thing is to get to my destination in a fast and safe way. I cannot see how the reform could in any way be described as a success.
C Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 10:05
This is hilarious. Firstly, many of these drivers worked on the wrecks of the old 'system' which never had air conditioning anyway. Secondly, the passengers travelling today also never had any airconditioning on the old 'system'.
The conditions on the new Arriva system are light years ahead of anything Malta has seen before and yet the unions as usual are greedy and unrealistic.
The government should put in place measures to dismantle and scrap all unions as they consistently work against the long term interests of their members and damagae the Maltese economy year in year out.
David Mangion
Jun 25th 2012, 10:19
Your comments are worthy of Kim Il Sung mentality.
1-Old buses had windows which one could open to circulate air.
2-Arriva PROMISED air conditioned buses.....and promises must be kept....ALWAYS.
3-Scrap the unions? In whose interest ? Is that the way to thank all our forefathers who have shed their blood to improve the workers' conditions ?
You may find yourself hilarious.......I think that you are more than just funny.
stephen koludrovic
Jun 25th 2012, 10:23
In the old system, windows could be opened, and passengers were not packed in like sardines.
Charles Cremona
Jun 25th 2012, 10:23
@ C Cassar : What a load of patronising claptrap, you obviously don't use the bus service much if at all otherwise you will not be making such stupid comments, yes the old buses never had air con but at least you could open the windows to let fresh air in. You also want to dismantle the unions, why stop there, why not stop all electins and turn us into a dictatorship.
Andrew Azzopardi
Jun 25th 2012, 10:26
Frau Cassar, it is obvious that you do not use the buses. Otherwise, you would certainly not find it so funny.
Gary Jameson
Jun 25th 2012, 10:41
Do you use Arriva buses my friend. Have you ever been on one of the vehicles without air conditioning and felt as if you are in a greenhouse?
The old service was a primitive one and had huge faults which are well documented. But even though the old buses were wrecks, passengers could open the windows and often the door was left open to get air-flow through the vehicle, which allowed cooling.
Now, on the modern buses, there are four small windows which only partially open via a grab handle. They offer very little airflow and as drivers (rightly) keep the doors shut, you have to have air-con to keep the vehicles cool and to have movement of air. Without the air-con, you are effectively sitting in a greenhouse which is uncomfortable for many, but dangerous for the very young and elderly.
The vehicles that came from the UK were supposed to have been a temporary measure to get the new service up and running, but they are still here. They do not have air-con as the UK climate does not warrant the outlay on the whole. But in Malta, it is essential for health and safety reasons and Arriva promised to fit air-con units to all buses in their fleet. This has not been done even though we were told that all operational issues were to be resolved by the end of May.
The unions (and I am no great fan of them) are doing the right thing in my opinion as they are, hopefully, thinking of the passengers comfort and well-being.
Whilst the new bus network is much better than the old one, the Arriva system should work as intended if it really is 'light-years ahead'. It doesn't, which is a disgrace after one year, and much improvement is still needed.
Only today, I was on a bendy bus which was driving around with all doors open which I have seen happening several times in the Msida area where the buses were packed out thus giving chance for people to fall out and go under the vehicle.
Joseph Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 10:41
Mr. Cassar,
It looks like you don't use the Arriva service. Try getting on a bendy bus from St.Julians with an 8 year old son. By the time I got to Valletta, my son so sick that he couldn't walk. My clothes were soaking wet and, by the way, I couldn't breath in the bus due to "BAD" odours!
This is not a matter of unions working against interests. It's just a RIGHT that was promised to us by Dr. Austin Gatt as part of the deal.
Think before you write....
M camilleri
Jun 25th 2012, 10:43
@ C Cassar ghandek tinota li il buses tal ariva ma ghandomx hgieg jinfethu aluwra tista timagina xi shana ikun fija il bus min gewwa..tider kemm taqbad l ariva jien nisugerijlek li tibda taqbad xi wahda kull tant min bqija alaq halqek..good day.
V Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 10:44
My god are you serious? These comments make me realize how some people manage to stretch their partisan beliefs in every aspect.
People protest for an improvement towards a better future. Just because they are used to working in sweat all day doesn't mean they have to work like that for the rest of their lives.
Second, it isn't ''many of these workers'' but there are those who didn't "work on wrecks".
Third, the whole majority of old buses had windows which you could open, at least there was a breeze while the bus was moving.
Finally, this industrial action will benefit the passengers, who were promised air conditioning throughout a whole campaign last year.
J Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 10:59
surely you are someone who takes his private car...well and good, but please remember the for those of us who use the bus service I don't require a bath in sweat when I go somewhere due to sealed window. At least if the AC does not function let us open a window or something...
C Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 11:17
Many of the new buses do have windows that open. The problem with Maltese culture is that it's embedded with an 'always complain' mentality as perfectly demonstrated by the comments here. The unions never wanted a modern bus infratstucture as demonstrated by their failed sabotage last Jluy.
The main point is that most visitors greatly appreciate the new system as theold one kept many away.What you never hear from any Maltese on this subject is how much better for everyone's healt and the environment the new vehicles are. Gone is the carciogenic plumes of diesel and the unroadworthy wrecks. So some get hot on a bus? so what? Better that than have your life shortened by many years due to unregulated emissions.
One final point, yes I do use the buses regularly but I only started frequent use once the new system was in place.
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 14:55
To C. Cassar, it is clear that you do not use the Arriva buses on a regular basis, the air conditioning is just one of the many issues, in the case of Marsasskala residents we are worse off then before, the previous night bus was removed from Jerma area, the bus to Valletta now takes nearly one hour, the bus to university is timed for students to arrive late for lectures, students for Junior College have now no direct bus like before to get to Mater Dei is a calvary in itself with the bus going round all the villages en route where before each village had it's own direct bus,, the list goes on and on.....
The unions and drivers are doing their job, the fault for all of this is none other then Transport Malta who do not want to admit they made a BAD CHOICE WITH ARRIVA, and we are having to lump it.
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 14:55
To C. Cassar, it is clear that you do not use the Arriva buses on a regular basis, the air conditioning is just one of the many issues, in the case of Marsasskala residents we are worse off then before, the previous night bus was removed from Jerma area, the bus to Valletta now takes nearly one hour, the bus to university is timed for students to arrive late for lectures, students for Junior College have now no direct bus like before to get to Mater Dei is a calvary in itself with the bus going round all the villages en route where before each village had it's own direct bus,, the list goes on and on.....
The unions and drivers are doing their job, the fault for all of this is none other then Transport Malta who do not want to admit they made a BAD CHOICE WITH ARRIVA, and we are having to lump it.
C Sant
Jun 25th 2012, 10:05
On this point I am all square behind the drivers. As a private company, Arriva should have seen that all buses have AC, and TM should see that Arriva is truly and definetly fined for each bus without AC - they knew the conditions when they applied for the job, now they have to lump them - but the government and all of us, accept a decent service.
TM do not be afraid to take action even if Arriva Malta is partly owned by Arrivs international and a very well known local business group!
Peter Murray
Jun 25th 2012, 10:05
Why not hire some unemployed and supply them with huge fans to accompany the drivers to waft cooling air on them whilst driving and plently of tissues to mop up any perspirant emanating from the drivers when patting dry their foreheads?
Patrick Mulholland
Jun 25th 2012, 10:36
Pathetic comment Mr Murray. It's actually not as bad for the drivers than the passengers. The new buses have no air circulation or windows other than the driver's side window and the side doors that CANNOT be left open during a journey.
So since you're so clever, I'll invite you to go and do the driving instead and should any of your passengers (or you whilst driving with a busload full of passengers) faint from excess heat be prepared to suffer the consequences.
Brian Simmons
Jun 25th 2012, 10:57
I just LOVE so many of your comments and contributions and this is one of your best! I think our senses of humour are similar. I could not live in Malta due to the minor and not so minor irritations, let alone the heat in summer. I only visit Malta in the Winter (Feb), but even then the buses both Arriva and the old yellow ones could still get baking hot. It seems so simple to me to fix such a basic requirement, but I forget the old Maltese saying : 'Even if it is broke, don't bother to fix it'! I am sitting here in the UK with what maybe the first day of our brief two day summer, trying to imagine your suggestions being taken up! It has cheered my Monday no end. Please keep up your excellent contributions!
C Cassar
Jun 25th 2012, 12:24
How are your floods? How is your economy? How are the austerity measures?
I read that the UK has had its wettest June on record. Have a nice time.
Joe Naudi
Jun 25th 2012, 10:01
Hi All,
The Old buses did not have any airconditioning, so why all this fuss with the drivers now, shows that they are not interested to work. They all have better working conditions plus a uniform since they started working for Arriva.
Thomas Vella
Jun 25th 2012, 10:13
The old buses had windows at least, new ones don't
Think before you speak as you seem that you don't use these new buses at all
It's boiling inside
Alfred Vassallo
Jun 25th 2012, 10:24
Yes quite right, BU say it all the old buses had windows that can be OPENED.
R. Vella.
Jun 25th 2012, 10:27
Mr Naudi, the old buses had huge windows which could be opened... Arriva buses do not. Try to get on a bendy-bus with no AC from Valletta to Cirkewwa at 2pm
Patrick Mulholland
Jun 25th 2012, 10:32
Since it's so good - you go and do it instead! I'm sure that you'll do a better job. You seem to know what's going on behind the scenes very well to be able to speak on behalf of the management.
Francis Sammut
Jun 25th 2012, 10:47
''The old buses didn't have any air conditioning, so why the fuss?'' Pray, wasn't that part of the ''avant-garde'' new system promised by minister Gatt? And this not only concerns the drivers per se, but also the commuters at large. Otherwise, why change from the old system? This was an important part and parcel of a new system, no more, no less. And another; the uniform doesn't make the man!
Leon Mercieca
Jun 25th 2012, 10:49
Because the old buses had no doors, or were driven with the doors open which cannot be done anymore, they also had very big airy windows which allowed a breeze in, look at the side of a new arriva bus or a bendy bus full of over 150 people breathing on each other, what do you see?? 2 or 3 pathetic tiny windows at the top which allow no air in!!! And the drivers had their own bus, so if they knew they would feel hot they could put a fan in there.
Franco Attard Trevisan
Jun 25th 2012, 10:54
the old buses had windows!
Edward Curmi
Jun 25th 2012, 11:05
Why beacuse GWU as usual want to cause disruption since PN are in power!!
Rita Maria Bilocca
Jun 25th 2012, 11:29
Mr.Naudi, have you ever used any bus at all ???? Do you live in Malta during the long hot, clammy, summer days?? Did you ever wait for a bus in the scorching heat? Even on the old buses that had windows the heat was unbearable - how can any human being travel in a window-less bus, with no a/c?
Have anyone ever thought about asmathic people who cannot afford a car and have to use a bus! How can anyone of the government being red or blue impose these unhuman conditions on us? They can because they never use a bus but have the chauffeur to drive them around in the cars being paid by us tax-payers!! An appeal to the BIGHEADS ...........if you have any brains at all, use them. Can't you see what you are doing - do you think before you impose something?? If you do not care about us Maltese, think about the tourists who visit us and what a nice picture you are offering them !!! Shame on whoever wanted these buses int he first place. Do we have streets wide enough for them ???? The Bendy-bus !!!!!! Go tell it to the navy ...............................
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 14:58
The issue is that when the revolution was made - air conditioning was given out as one of the key reason to change the operator, in reality not much has changed, same old, same old.
anthony sultana
Jun 25th 2012, 10:00
Definitly one can"t use the bus without the aircondition,because they are without windows,I hate buses without windows, I rather use a bicycle,or don"t go enywhere at all.
Tonio Farrugia
Jun 25th 2012, 10:00
back to square 1... no a/cs!!!
Mr Ilja Albrecht
Jun 25th 2012, 09:55
It is really astounding how buses that came on this island just over a year ago can already be in such a condition....
Edward Curmi
Jun 25th 2012, 11:06
Chinese product!!
Paul Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 09:53
Unless Arriva is planning to suspend the service between 11.00 am to 5.00pm, air conditioning is definitely required on the new buses with no open windows
Giov DeMartino
Jun 25th 2012, 09:49
We have ALWAYS been used to airconditioned buses.
Alfred Vassallo
Jun 25th 2012, 10:22
We have ALWAYS had buses that windows can't be opened at all.
Eddy Privitera
Jun 25th 2012, 10:24
Giovann: Mur suq xi karozza INT bil-hgieg kollu maghluq u x-xemx tizreg fuqek bla ma tista tiftah tieqa u minghajr air-conditioning !
Mario Scicluna
Jun 25th 2012, 10:46
L-aqwa servizz fl-Ewropa ftahar xi hadd!! Ezatt!....heqq heqq zmien il buzullotti spicca hux hekk Giovann?
Francis Sammut
Jun 25th 2012, 13:24
Mr. DeMartino, we the people at large paid a heavy price in order to have a decent (air conditioned) avant-guarde, state of the art, bus service. Ok, money well spend one might say and I'm not going to argue about that. But please, now it's not fair to make comparisons with how bad the old service was and say that we are to be thankful with what we now have! This is unacceptable.
A Caruana
Jun 25th 2012, 15:00
The old buses had windows that could be opened in case of need, the new buses are simply a microwave oven. To further add to the stress the glass bus shelters are like an oven, truly some very intelligent people are behind our transport revolution!
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