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750 women got pregnant through IVF in Malta - law to be presented in coming weeks

There are some 750 women in Malta who became mothers after having IVF treatment here over the past 21 years, the Ministry of Justice and Family Affairs said this afternoon.

Replying to comments made yesterday by Labour leader Joseph Muscat, it denied his claim that women in Malta were not being given the chance to have a family because of the absence of an IVF legislation. "IVF has actually been available since 1991 and the first baby conceived by IVF will this year turn 21," the ministry said. "There are currently no limitations on IVF."

The ministry said a law to regulate IVF will be presented to parliament in the coming weeks after extensive consultations by the government with various entities. The House Social Affairs Committee  had also considered the manner of regulation of assisted procreation, a sector which was currently unregulated. In this way, the minister said, the law would safeguard the rights of all those involved, including the parents and, particularly, the embryos and children born through IVF.

IVF could then also be provided at Mater Dei Hospital.

The ministry said it regretted that such a sensitive and complex subject was being treated in a light and partisan manner, but it invited Dr Muscat to say what restrictions he felt the law should impose on IVF.

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Steve Pace

Jun 26th 2012, 10:50

Jumping to conclusions as to why people resort to IVF is one problem which the 'old' culture seems to be having. Scribbled speculative comments like the one i am replying to is one proof of this 'old' age problem.

Andrea Sammut

Jun 25th 2012, 22:24

"IVF violates the rights of the child: it deprives him of his filial relationship with his parental origins and can hinder the maturing of his personality."

Explain to me exactly how the way a person is brought into this world has anything to do with his personality! I'm sorry but I believe that that paragraph is ignorance at best.

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 20:00

Maria Vassallo: With what you call " moral law ", those 750 babies wouldn't have been born !

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 25th 2012, 21:34

@Eddy Privitera
I see that once again you let your dear Joseph decide what opinion you should have. Those 750 babies would be there because there are alternatives to IVF that are currently not even being discussed, such as NaProTECHNOLOGY. Why? Guess one of the main reasons is that it is less expensive!!

Peter Bonello

Jun 26th 2012, 08:56

@Joseph Aquilina
NaProTECHNOLOGY does not work when any of the parents are infertile!!
@Maria Vassallo
Not all families can accept the fact that they cannot have their own son! Why some other families refrain from having children? I don't think it has anything to do with IVF but because of "progress" - too little time for ourselves let alone if we bring a lot of children. Financial difficulties also have a role in this...

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 25th 2012, 21:37

No, Joseph Muscat is simply trying another time to bring the government down by picking on an issue first started by JPO - make it seem as if it is his own idea - and make the government loose another vote in parliament. All this to try and get elected a few months before!! In other words; stupidity to the very max. Rather then pick up on real issues, such as why works take long, where is money being spent, etc etc etc, our LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION only picks the battles where he knows there is fragmentation within the PN.

Speaks volumes about the character of the "leader" Joseph Muscat and those behind him!!

Joe Tabone

Jun 25th 2012, 22:03

A Mizzi,
You got it ALL wrong again.
May I remind you that Dear Joseph tabled 2 opportinistic motions in Parliament after Franco Debono raised the issues......so it seems that the dis-gruntled back bencher is setting JM's agenda or?!.
The community homes for the disabled initiative was launched by the KNPD.
The IVF law was drafted (by Minister C Said) and presented for discussion in cabinet way back in April.
Surely Minister Said and FD deserve the credit due!!
On the other hand, Dear Joseph proposed to leave the pensionable age the same without saying how he will finance the pensions, he proposed cheaper water & elec bills without saying how he will finance the reduced rates, he guaranteed work for all 16 year olds without saying how he will create the new jobs................Dear Joseph seems to propose the world!!

Andrew Cumbo

Jun 25th 2012, 20:10

Maria, mela naħdmu fliemkien? Sa fejn naf jien il- Prim Ministru qalilna li aħna tal- Partit Laburista qegħdin hemm biex nfixklu biss. Grazzi li qegħda tirikonoxxi il- fatt li nistgħu naħdmu fliemkien. Wara kollox kemm ilu Joseph mexxej tal- Partit Laburista mhux l-ewwel darba li faħħar affarijiet tajbin ta’ din l-aministrazjoni u Gvernijiet tal- passat. Imma għall li skop malizjuzi tal- PN dan ma jisemmiex, anzi qegħda tkompli issir kampanja ta twerwir li Laburisti ma mbidlux u għadhom l-istess bħall tal- passat.

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 20:05

Joe Tabone, you seem unaware that the IVF Bill had already been prepared by both government and the opposition together. But it was then left on the shelf. Besides, it seems that the government had passed the draft to the Curia, and due to difficulties raised by the Curia, the government has made some changes.
we will see whether these changes will be acceptable to the opposition, and probably, to a number of GonziPN MPs , once it had already been agreed upon !

m. borg (slm)

Jun 25th 2012, 18:43

It is not a question of credit but a question of action and gonzipn is simply procastrinating for his own reasons, most probably "Tal-kuxjenza".

Frans Aguis

Jun 25th 2012, 18:17

"The IVF was and still is only available in private practice and not accessible to those who have not the extra money to afford it

The Minister himself stated that after the Law is approved it will be available at Mater Dei.

Can the Minister say what were the reasons for taking so long to bring the Law in Parliament when the House Committee finished its work and recommendations at least two years ago?"

Joseph Borg

Jun 25th 2012, 18:37

Joseph skond int qed jitkellem fuq xi haga li tezisti diga.....imma nahseb inti qed titkellem fl ishab habib.

L IVF IWA tezisti PERO BISS ghal min jista jaffordja fil PRIVAT.

anzi IL GVERN qed jipprova jghid li l IVF ila tezisti 21 sena meta fil fatt FIL PRIVAT ila tezisti daqshekk u il GVERN QATT ma kien involut fl EBDA IVF so in theory qed jipprova jiehu il kreditu min fuq dhar il privat.

irrispondini din...INTI ghandek accessibilta li taghmel IVF B XEJN MATER DEI??? jekk iva ghandek ragun fuq li qed tghid .....jekk ir risposta hija LE allura sewwa qed nghidlek qed titkellem fl ishab ghax la taf li mhijiex accessibli ghal kulhadd allura ma ghandu l EBDA mertu l gvern!

Barra min hekk ma hawn l ebda legislazzjoni jew kontroll tal IVF so mhux biss mhux accessibli ghal min ma ghandux flus, imma kull min jiprattika l IVF ma gahndu ebda restrizzjoni u kontroll GHAX MA TEZISTI EBDA LIGI.

SO come again YOURSELF with a NEXT ONE!!

Ghaliex kollox blu taraw u l hazin ma tghidulux hazin!

TEZISTI JEW LE LIGI DWAR L IVF?
JEZISTI L IVF GHAL KULHADD BI DRITT LI TAGHMLU B XEJN?

LE...so that speaks for itself hux! inutli nipprovaw nghidlu li hawn servizz u kontroll ta xi haga meta FIL FATT MA HAWNX so la ma HAWNX jekk JM qed jghid li ha jahdem fuq li jkun HAWN allura nahseb li ma seraq l ebda ideja imma biss qed jghid li MIL KLIEM u FTAHIR ta GonziPN fuq IL BAHH li ma jezistix qed jghid li jekk ikun hu Prim Ministru ha Jgib dan IL KLIEM GHAL FATTI! iss JEKK MIL KLIEM ma JIGIX FATTI meta fil fatt ikollu cans allura imbghad tista tmaqdar hux hekk?

Peor bhalissa ahjar tarha li ma tibqax tibla kull ma taqra u tarha KIF FIL FATT huma l FATTI!

Bertrand Gove

Jun 25th 2012, 19:28

Nahseb li it-tnejn li intom - Frans u Joseph - hemm bzonn tergghu taqraw xi ktibt jien sew - darba jew darbtejn jekk hemm bzonn.

Il-punt kollu kien li din il-ligi qed tigi diskussa as we speak u Joseph Muscat il-bierah qal li din hija l-ewwel ligi li jghaddi. Meta kollox qed jindika li din il-ligi ila tigi diskussa u qalha biex johloq l-impressjoni li kien hu il-pijunier ta dik il-ligi.

Kif jaf kulhadd, ligi ma tiktibhiex u thaddimha f'gimgha jew tnejn lanqas. Kull ligi hija interlaced ma sensiela ta ligijiet ohra u wahda ma tistax tkun tmehri lil xi ligi ohra (bhal nghidu ahna mad-Data Protection Act, ma x'jikkonstitwixxi omicidju just in case IVF tmur hazin, it-tabib ma jkunx jista jigi akkuzat b'omicidu... u nsomma ligijiet ohra.

Bertrand Gove

Jun 25th 2012, 19:29

aqraw il-kumment li jmiss u tifhmu x'irrid nghid bil-kelma "popolin" u forsi tifhmu il-punt li qed naghmel.

Anthony Grech
Today, 18:03
Again Joseph leads.

Joseph Borg

Jun 25th 2012, 20:02

veru ligi ma ddumx gimgha jew gimghatejn imma anqas trid tistenna 22 sena hux!!! lanqas

rigward x kiteb haddiehor jekk haddiehor jarha ahmar biss dik problema tieghu!

nista nassigurag li fuq l IVF naf hafna aktar milli taf inti u naf aktar minnek x ligijiet hawn u x ma hawnx.

Bhalissa kulhadd jahdeb bl amment u bla kontroll u dan ilu jsir 22 sena mhux gimgah jew gimghatejn!

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 20:08

Bertrand Gove: Mid-dehra ma smajtx kollox x'qal Joseph Muscat. Muscat qal li din il-ligi kienet giet maqbula bejn iz-zewg nahat, izda minhabba atitudni "KONFESSJONALI" minn-naha ta' GonziPN. il-ligi intefghet fuq li xkaffa, u ilha sentejn hemm ! Ghalhekk tkellem. U jidher li rega rnexxielu icaqlaq lil-GonziPN !

R. Stivala

Jun 26th 2012, 07:42

Alura intom ma TISTHUX minn dak ta hemm fuq ghid !!!!!

Fejn qatt semma fuqha din il- ligi Gonzipn, QAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT... Issa ghax qed isehmija Joseph Muscat, biex tirbhu ftit voti ?!?!?!?!?

Kieku forsi gieli sehma fuq L IVF nghidlek iva ghandek ragun li kien Gonzi li hareg biha... imma jidispjacini ma ghandek xejn ragun !!!!!!

ir rabja kbira li tqabduni nara dawn l istejjer u l kummenti hija kbira u LE LE LE u LE ... Kien Joseph Muscat il pijunier ta din il ligi... Mela Gonzi jew il klikka !!!! . UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!

John L Galea

Jun 26th 2012, 07:54

@Bertrand Gove: Ara veru ma tafx x'int tghid. JM qal li l-PL jattwa din il-ligi mill-bidu, filwaqt li din il-lihgi ilha tigi mkaxkra fil-parlament jew impoggija taht it-tapit. Ghallinqas JM wera l-intenzjoni tal-PL u ma qaghadx jibza jew jistahba wara xi skuza. Imma tal-PN rikbu fuq il-mewga ta' l-opportunizmu u kumbinazzjoni ghax JM semmieha nhar il-Hadd li ghadda, issa se jghadduha ligi, wara ma nafx kemm il-sena li ilha tissemma.

Il-kummenti tieghek ovvjament huma ppumpjati minn banalitajiet ta' politika super partiggjana u turi kemm inti mahruq ghax tissaportja partit li kisser pajjiz u kisser lilu nnifsu ghax gwerra gravi daqs tas-Sirja ghandkom fil-partit. Issa filkaz aqbad naqra xkupa u oqghod iknes il-frak li qed thalli l-gwerra interna tal-PN

J Busuttil

Jun 25th 2012, 18:28

@ Anthony Grech

Yes he leads fil-Bahh zgur

Anthony Grech

Jun 25th 2012, 21:51

Says you Busittil, but not the sleepy Gonzipn's ministers.

C Cassar

Jun 25th 2012, 19:12

why should others have to subsidise to correct something that nature intended?

Bertrand Gove

Jun 25th 2012, 19:38

C Cassar - that is a very insensitive comment.

Becoming a parent is a natural instinct - the instinct to want to love and reproduce. Ma nahsibx li tista torqod mohhok mistrieh tghid lil min ma jistax jirriproduci b'mod naturali li peress li in-natura ma habbitux, mela ma jistax ikollu ghajnuna biex jitrangaw l-affarjiet.

Ftit minn nies li ma jistax ikollom b'mod naturali xorta jibqghu ma jirnexxielhomx b'IVF. imbaghad hemm jidhlu mizuri ohra, imma li tghid lil xi hadd "int le ma jistax ikollok ghax in-natura hekk qaltlek" hija krudili to say the least.

Yes others have to subsidise the IVF because at the end of the day you also subsidise the lung cancer patient who continues to smoke, the HIV+ person who acquired the illness as a result of a misjudgement, you also subsidise healthcare for that 20 year old who stacked his car into a wall after drinking too much at the weekend, and you also subsidise the results of that selfish robber who shot at the shopkeeper to steal his money. Facts of life. I'm much much much much happier seeing 2 people fulfil their dreams than knowingly subsidising any of the examples above.

C Borg

Jun 25th 2012, 20:41

@C.Cassar
So we may might as well close the hospital, because death is a natural course and all the doctors and staff are working against what " nature intended".
.

Tony Borg

Jun 25th 2012, 21:20

@ C Cassar

I sincerely wish you that neither you nor anyone of your loved ones would ever need to consider the use of IVF.

This is coming from someone who is currently going through the IVF process.

Henry Abdilla

Jun 26th 2012, 08:15

@ C Cassar

Many people pay thousands of euros in taxes each year and good luck to them they never got a single service from hospital. This is the reason why they should get the IVF for free if they need it.

The baby which you do not want to exist, some time will pay your pension, so just shut up because comments like yours are not welcomed by many people.

pat muscat

Jun 25th 2012, 18:09

The successor of your' mahbub' has left the IVF legislation to gather dust and rot for years on end.... on the desk of the 'ex minister' who was forced to resign!

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 18:11

L-IVF ISSIR BISS FI SPTARIJIET PRIVATI U MHUX ACCESSIBBLI GHAL MIN M'GHANDUX FLUS ! U SA LLUM MHIEX REGOLATA KIF SUPPOST. GHALHEKK TLESTIET LIGI LI SARET BEJN IL-GVRN U L-OPPOZIZZJONI, IZDA L-GVERN WAQAF, GHAX JIDHER LI MINN NAHA TAL-LURJA MA KIENUX KUNTENTI BIL-LIGI KIF SARET
u BHAS-SOLTU, BILL GHANDNA PRIM MINISTRU LI QISU JISTENNA L-APPROVAZZJONI TAL-KYURJA GHAL-CERTI LIGIJIET, JIDHER LI BIDEL IL-LIGI.

ISSA NARAW X'SE JRESSAQ. iMMA ZGUR LI CCAQLAQ GHAX DR. MUSCAT GHAMEL IL-PRESSJONI IL-BIERAH !!!!!!!!!!

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