Last Monday's vote 'a terrible experience' - PM
Labour Monday's vote in Parliament was described by Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi this morning as "a terrible experience".
Dr Gonzi was speaking during his Sunday meeting with supporters at the PN headquarters.
Last Monday's vote led to the resignation of Malta's ambassador in the EU Richard Cachia Caruana as Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando voted with the opposition while Jesmond Mugliett abstained
This vote, Dr Gonzi said, came at a delicate time for Malta, when the country was preparing to get down to important negotiations on its financial package for 2013 to 2020.
If things were not done property, Malta could lose millions of euros but the opposition had no shame in hindering the work of the people who could get the best for Malta. People abroad, he noted, were questioning how could such a move take place in an EU country.
Referring to PN's executive condemnation of the Nationalist MPs who did not vote with the government on this motion and on that taken two weeks ago, which led to the resignation of former Home Affairs Minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici, Dr Gonzi said the executive had spoken clearly and unanimously and consequences would have to be shouldered. In that vote, Naitonalist MP Franco Debono had voted with the Opposition.
This morning's meeting took a new format in that it also streamed online and on Net TV and the Prime Minister answered questions as submitted by people following the debate online.
Dr Gonzi took a question from Joanne Ellul Lanfranco, one of the finalists in the Prime Minister for a Day competition, who had proposed the setting up of a centre for people with eating disorders.
The Prime Minister said the proposal had been a major coincidence, since a similar proposal had been made by President George Abela and plans were in the pipeline for such a centre to be set up, offering holistic services.
The Prime Minister also criticised the PL's applications in court for the removal of names from the electoral register and said this was "old labour at its best".
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Pippo De Marco
Jun 25th 2012, 09:42
Monday's vote in Parliament was described by Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi this morning as "a terrible experience". - Well if that was what the PM describes as 'a terrible experience' then he'd better toughen up because he will have much worse to come; such as an electoral defeat and being dumped as party leader.
Labour will not win the next election, PN will hand it to them on a plate by keeping Gonzi as leader. His stock is now so low that, if he was to stand, even Austin Gatt would have a better chance of winning.
Gifting power to George Abela would have been one thing, but gifting power to Joseph Muscatt is something else.... That takes stupidity to a whole new level and the party will reflect on this in the bad years to come.
And with regard to RCC, it's understandable that 'people abroad were questioning how could such a move take place in an EU country'. But they don't know that Malta has a Puppet Politburo at the heart of its government and unless you are a chosen 'yes' puppet, then regardless of your abilities, you won't get a chance to dance in the limelight.
Gonzi once reportedly complained that his talent pool was too shallow. But how would he know how deep the pool is when he only scrapes-off what floats on the surface ? - It's not the pool that's shallow and it's not only cream that rises to the top.
pat muscat
Jun 25th 2012, 08:20
10 days ago Dr Gonzi solemnly declared he wanted a clear vote in Parliament; the outcome was completely opposite! Good news from the Gonzi camp is so rare that we treat his Sunday sermons with suspicion. Whatever he says from now on, will not change the gloomier big picture, simply because investors hate uncertainty and Dr Gonzi is the very epitome of uncertainty; he did not even know that two new dissidents had joined Dr Franco Debono's rank!
fred sammut
Jun 25th 2012, 13:26
agree
Mr M Spiteri
Jun 25th 2012, 07:13
This seems to be a shot from a soap opera
Eddy Privitera
Jun 26th 2012, 09:42
mARY aNN bORG: ISSA GHAMDEK PROBLEMA, GHAX ILLUM UFFICJAL TA' GONZIPN HAREG STQARRIJA FEJN DAN CAHAD LI GONZI QAL LIL FRANCO DEBONO LI JRIDU JKUN KANDIDAT GHAL-ELEZZJONI !
X'SE TGHID ISSA, ?????
Mary Ann Borg
Jun 25th 2012, 01:33
Privitera: INT TAQBEL MA GONZI LI JRID LIL FRANCO DEBONO IKUN KANDIDAT ??
Iva, sur Privitera, jien naqbel li Franco Debono ikun kandidat. U diga' ktibt hekk imma inti hemm certu topics li taghzel li fihom ma tiktibx. Jien naqbel assolutament li ghandu johrog FB u mieghu fuq l-istess distrett nohrog li Carm Mifsud Bonnici halli mbaghad naraw min ghandu s-sahha tal-vot Nazzjonlista fl-elezzjoni li jmiss. Kuntent issa?
U fuq it-topic li ktibt dwar x'qal illum Joseph tal-ingravata u l-glekk blu, jien illum stess ktibt hekk
People aged 45 and over, he said, had a clear choice either of going for Gonzi PN, which had already raised the pensionable age once or for a new government which had an alternative plan.'
And the plan is? Is there a Laiviera or a Privitera to enlighten us here? They seem to know it all and if Joseph failed to tell us of his plans, I'm sure the two fans of GonziPN would volunteer to enlighten us.
Imma int ma tantx tikteb fuq dak li jghid Joseph ghax mid-dehra anke int stess ma tantx ghandek fiducja f'dak li jghid il-leader tal- Lejburisti Maltin bhalek.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Jun 25th 2012, 15:09
Ghadni ma smajtx lill-Prim Ministru u Kap tal-Partit Nazzjonalista stess jghid jrid li Dr Franco Debono ikun kandidat tal-partit. Il-kliem fil-vojt ta' Franco stess ma jiswew xejn.
R. Gauci
Jun 25th 2012, 01:26
Ahjar tinzel tiltaqa man-nies u tara l-problemi li qed jiffaccjaw sur Prim Ministru mhux dejjem wara xi keyboard.
Vince Cassar
Jun 24th 2012, 23:13
Grazzi lil Prim Ministru ta' kull ma qed jaghmel biex pajjizna jkompli miexi l-quddiem. Grazzi tad-decizjonijiet li hadt ghalkemm il-pariri ta' Muscat kienu bil-maqlub. Muscat nesa li ma ridniex nissiehbu fl-EU? Muscat ma riedx il-Euro!! imma basta jrida ta' Prim Ministru.
fred sammut
Jun 25th 2012, 13:22
habieb tieghi, kieku jkollu jsir referendum l ewropa kollha fuq l ewro nahseb li 70% jaghzlu li ma jdahhlux il munita li gabbet biss falliment......
Angelo Vassallo
Jun 24th 2012, 23:10
@ EDDIE privitera l-LEJBURIST!!!!!!!!!!
I might also start giving free lessons to you on how to spell your own name. eddy in english means whirlpool, swirl, hot tub and current according to Theaurus AND IT IS NOT A NAME. Your name is spelt EDDIE, just like the name of former leader of the PARTIT NAZZJONALISTA, former PRIME MINISTER and former PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF MALTA - IL-KBIR EDDIE FENECH ADAMI.
Tant int LEJBURIST li bdilt il-mod kif tibteb ismek biex ma jkunx bhal tal-KBIR EDDIE FENECH ADAMI.
Jessica Smith
Jun 24th 2012, 23:03
Dr Gonzi, il-fatt li ma ghamiltx ma Dr Carm Mifsud Bonnici dak li ghamilt ma Austin Gatt u issa ma RCC ifisser l inti ma ridtx tiddefendi lil-Dr Mifsud Bonnici bhal am ddefendejn lill-ohrajn?
Tghid ghalfejn?
Ghax Dr CMB johrog fuq l-istess distrett li tohrog int?
Jekk qed tahseb li dawk in-nazzjonaoisti sincieri inkluzi dawk ta' Dr CMB injoranti jew ahjar cwiec kif ghajjar lill-Maltin Tonio Fenech sejjer zball ghax indunaw x'hemm mohbi wara t-taparsi difiza jew ahjar in-uqqas taghha ta' Dr CMB.
Jessica Smith
Jun 24th 2012, 22:55
If last Monday was a terrible experience wait till you bite the dust at the next general election.
Anthony Paris
Jun 24th 2012, 22:03
"This vote, Dr Gonzi said, came at a delicate time for Malta, when the country was preparing to get down to important negotiations on its financial package for 2013 to 2020. If things were not done property, Malta could lose millions of euros.." says the PM. So it will all be someone else's fault. Who would the PM have blamed if RCC was run over by the proverbial water melon truck. The PM should shoulder the responsibility for failing to have a backup plan.
Maria Vassallo
Jun 24th 2012, 21:50
The Prime Minister also criticised the PL's applications in court for the removal of names from the electoral register and said this was "old labour at its best".
The PL is indeed ridiculous. If the names to be removed from the electoral register have emigrated to eternity or to another country why not.
And if this is not the case, what are the reasons?
And then the PL is ready to give the right to vote to 16year olds.
What is it afraid of?
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jun 25th 2012, 15:20
Maria Vassallo, just two points; GonziPN has itself in past elections asked for the deletion of certain voters - so what's new now? Secondly, the courts wll decide if these people should be deleted or not - there are laws on who can vote and who cannot -so what are you afraid of?
Mr C Galea
Jun 24th 2012, 20:18
Gonzi I think you have run out of good vocablury, surely it''s time to go
Vince Cassar
Jun 24th 2012, 23:11
U jekk jitlaq Gonzi x'jigri?? nafdaw f'idejn Musacat?? ma tarax!! ahjar jibda jghidilna x'ser joffri lil pajjizna qabel jitlob lin-nies jivvutawlu!
V Caruana
Jun 24th 2012, 19:54
Dr. Gonzi ma jafx x'inhu għaddej fil-grupp parlamentari aħseb u ara kif jaf x'inhu għaddej qalb in-nies tat-triq. Mind you prim mhux dawk li ssallabhom u titfagħhom rashom 'l isfel u jgħidulek grazzi.
A Dimech
Jun 24th 2012, 19:46
Is it ever a good time?!! as long as Gonzi stays in power - there is always an excuse left up his sleave.
If it is not a good time, than he should made sure that his own MPs voted with him!!
Robert Lewis
Jun 24th 2012, 19:26
So the 6 MEPs we have in Brussels are there for nothing Dr Gonzi. I think they can handle the situation smoothly and see to the matter accordingly. All of them are capable people in my opinion. As regards the removal of names from the electoral register, whats wrong with that. If there are people who are not eligable to vot, they should be struck off of course.
Bertrand Gove
Jun 24th 2012, 21:51
They are 2 different jobs altogether - FFS try to learn something. MEP and Permanent Representative are not the same job.
And you think that the 6 MEPs are capable in your opinion. My my my, what an opinion.
Robert Lewis
Jun 25th 2012, 12:41
@ Bertrand Gove. FFS I know more then yourself that its a different job, but don't try to impress me that there's no one else capable of doing RCC job. There are 69 MPs and they see to that matter themselves. Regarding the motion that is another scenario, you should ask the 2 MPs who voted against and abstained and not the opposition. And if you think that in your opinion the 6 MEPs are not capable, then be straight forward and tell Simon Busuttil and David Casa to resign as well, if that's what you are trying to refer to.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jun 24th 2012, 19:04
"Dr Gonzi said, came at a delicate time for Malta, when the country was preparing to get down to important negotiations on its financial package for 2013 to 2020."
Six months before a general election and in such a crucial area of our EU relations as is the next 2013-2020 financial package what is really absolutely essential is collaboration and cooperation with the leader of the opposition so that in the national interest we speak to Europe with a single unified forceful voice. As happens in the UK civil servants should be assigned to brief and keep the leader of the4 opposition au courant of all developments. Perhaps a committee composed of experts from both sides would not be amiss and one trusts there would not be objections to RCC sitting on this committee..
A Dimech
Jun 24th 2012, 19:47
Ganado - I don't think a committee from both sides is really needed. You can than argue that a committee from both sides is needed everywhere and all sectors (health, education etc.)- since this government is so weak;
What is really needed is stability - and an election will give that.
If PN wins again -good luck and so if PL wins.
B. Cachia
Jun 24th 2012, 18:54
Over 30 years ago, a group of young Christian Democrats led by a strong and visionary leader revived the party and turned it once again into a party of government, with a clear project that has done wonders for the country. Unfortunately, those same people, including their leader and his sons, have failed to understand that they cannot monopolise the party for ever, that they must allow new leaders to emerge from the ranks, even if they do not share their precise vision. Gonzi's failure as a leader among his parliamentary peers is a testament to the fact that leaders cannot be manufactured from above, and simply mentored by their predecessor until their time arrives. Either one is a leader or one is not.
cesco di luigi
Jun 24th 2012, 18:52
I feel sorry for Dr Gonzi...I have been through terrible experiences myself because of the people who have influence on him...admitedly recently they came around from the PN enquiring what's wrong... a bit late I'm afraid.
Joe Tabone
Jun 24th 2012, 18:52
Last Monday's vote is not only a terrible experience for the PM but for all citizens who treasure a fair justice system.
Dear Joseph tabled TWO (opportunistic) motions in Parliament - one against CMB (a Minister) the other against RCC (a Civil Servant). In the motion against CMB, that listed a number of administrative shortcomings, but NO reference was made to the heads of Police and/or Prisons. In the RCC motion, a Civil Servant was justiced by Jury of Politicians. Clearly the RCC motion was all about opportunism by PL, riding on personal vendetta of a Government MP, who has lost all popular support.
Who gained what?!?
Joseph Grech Attard
Jun 24th 2012, 18:46
Isn't it better if our dear PM asks the EU to postpone the 'crucial' dealing for the 2013-2020 budget after the general elections? After all Greece shall be asking for more time for the bail out, so why not tiny Malta who has been doing so well and is the best of the 27? The previous deals, with the 'money is no problem' slogan, led us to 6 billion euros in debts. Not fair that, a few months before the general elections, a deal is sought by a party who, most probably, shall not be in government. We shall have a repetition of the 1964 Independence deals and the subsequent 1971 deals! Can we afford that?
Mark Borg
Jun 24th 2012, 18:38
Dan kif Gonzi m'ghadux jiltaqa' man-nies fit-toroq u fil-pjazzez kull nhar ta' Hadd? Dan kif Gonzi m'ghadux jiehu mistoqsijiet tal-gurnalisti fil-konferenzi stampa li jorganizzawlu? Dan kif Gonzi m'ghadux jirrispondi ghall-mistoqsijiet tal-gurnalisti waqt li jkun qed jigri ghall-karozza li tkun tistennieh? Dan il-ghala?
Charles Massa
Jun 24th 2012, 18:27
Allura x jippretendi Dr Gonzi, li min ma ghandux dritt jivvota jigi u jivvota. Wara kollox mhux il PL jiddeciedi izda l Qorti. Rigward il mozzjoni ta RCC dan hadem minn wara dar il poplu. Il mozzjoni ghaddiet u jekk il PN huwa demokrariku irid jirrispetta decizjoni tal Parlament. Huwa tal misthija li wara li RCC irrizanja ghadu jokkupa l kariga. Mela vera ma ghandkomx nies kapaci fil partit
Mark Borg
Jun 24th 2012, 18:23
Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All GonziPN's horses, all GonziPN's men (and women) could put Humpty Dumpty together again!
john muscat
Jun 24th 2012, 17:57
The people in general has been experiencing "terrible experiences" under gonzipn, so only ONE terrible experience for him doesn't make a difference!
Michael Camileri
Jun 24th 2012, 18:31
People in general are doing fine John. The people that generally complain are those who do not wish to improve issues on their side, but rather blame others.
R. Balzan
Jun 24th 2012, 19:20
@ Michael Camilleri
Earth calling Michael Camilleri. Earth calling Michael Camilleri. Come in Michael.
C Busuttil
Jun 24th 2012, 17:46
Delicate moment for Malta, when the country was preparing to get down to important negotiations on its financial package for 2013 to 2020................
Jekk naghmlu success kif ghamilna fuq il-burden sharing ALLA MAGHNA.......
Dr. Gonzi izjed kollu zejjed, int tahseb li ser nibqa nemmen li ahna naghmlu xi forma ta' resistenza ma' L-EU, jekk jghidulek daqshekk ha tiehu, ahna naccettaw mill-ewwel jkunu zewg miljuni jew mija ghax ahna l-ahhar rota tal-karru. Il-burden sharing huwa prova ta' dan.
P Buħaġiar
Jun 24th 2012, 17:29
This vote, Dr Gonzi said, came at a delicate time for Malta, when the country was preparing to get down to important negotiations on its financial package for 2013 to 2020.
If it was possible for GonzinPartitNegative, elections will be never held in this country. Always mention some events happening around us except that HE is sole problem for Malta, and not JM or PL.
Henry S Pace
Jun 24th 2012, 17:23
' Last Monday's vote 'a terrible experience' - PM '
This is a fact because the PM is surround by the Judas. Clean up the Party,and go to the original basics of
the PN Principles. please.L-Egheruq should be thourghly revised.
Eddy Privitera
Jun 24th 2012, 20:24
What are the " original basics of the PN principles " ? I hope you are not referring to the "Principles" of the 1930s when the PN was against the vote for women. Was against giving the vote to everybody. Was aganist the Maltese language which for the PN as " la lingua della cucina " u " tal-baxxi " !!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jun 25th 2012, 07:39
Privitera ghandek ideja fuq xiex ser jerga jitmellah bik il-kbir partit laburista tieghek?
T.F. Busuttil
Jun 24th 2012, 16:43
So Carm's vote was nothing for the PN. Ara vera ghadna politikanti soft. Kieku kont flok Carm u nisma hekk nghamel fattija.
George Azzopardi
Jun 24th 2012, 16:41
the deomocratic parliament was the PM for one day .. and voted to remove RCC ... what a sad day!!!
Joseph Micallef
Jun 24th 2012, 16:29
Look at the pic, everyone smiles, everyone laughs, everyone is happy... and yet the water keeps coming in and the ship is sinking!! Who cares?? GonziPN - moħħok mistrieħ.
m. borg (slm)
Jun 24th 2012, 16:28
"If things were not done property, Malta could lose millions of euros ........."
Well he can always look back to the millions lost in EU educational funds, or those millions don't count Mr Prime Minister?
GL Calleja
Jun 24th 2012, 16:27
We have no idea on how the PL will act if they were to be voted in as a ruling party in the future, only time will tell. All we know is that the Maltese Parliament is in big doodoo and so is the PN. With all this going on in our Parliament, it seems like the politicians both PN and PL have neglected the people they are supposed to represent, Us second class citizens. While these two Parties are very busy trying to knock each other out, illegal immigrants are arriving in droves and nobody in parliament seems to be paying any attention to what is happening. Both Meps and MPs are all on edge wondering who is to be next on the chopping block. It is time for Parliament to take the bull by the horns and start doing what they were elected to do in the first place, and that is to tend to their citizens who they seem to forget that, that citizen owns the vote they will be asking for. I think that from now on, Voters should forget the party affiliation and vote for the best candidate at hand, the candidate that will represent the Maltese People instead of themselves.
Stephen Florian
Jun 24th 2012, 16:16
So Mr.Stubborn still thinks we are fools.
m. borg (slm)
Jun 24th 2012, 16:11
Why does gonzi come with so much bull, he knows that he can always retain RCC as the PM's personal advisor at Castille and still get his "Acumen" regarding the EU.
The resignation wasn't more terrible than clipping the wings of the obviously too abitious RCC.
But then most probably gonzi secretly sighs a breath of relief that PL managed to do just that for him, who knows?
RCC is cited as one of the 3 PMs Malta has.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jun 24th 2012, 16:58
Bile on bile, but what would someone "abitious" be? Teach us Borg, teach us!
Anthony Pace Gouder
Jun 24th 2012, 16:00
Dan il- PM GHADU ma IRREJALLIZZAX li il- Maltin u l-GHawdxin m'humiex Cwiec tant li lanqas fl-Unjoni Ewropeja ma riedu jafdawh
Biex isserhu rashom li kollox jimxi sew POGGEW GHASSIESA fil-forma ta maggoranza b' ERBA MEMBRI PARLAMENTARI LABURISTI u tnejn biss Nazzjonalisti .
Ghadek m'ghandunajtx ghaliex Dr. Gonzi ?
Noel Damato
Jun 24th 2012, 15:42
Dan kien vot car hafna ghal Prim Ministru ghax hu stess hekk riedu halli jkun jaf ezatt fejn qieghed. Nistaqsi.....issa il-Prim Ministru x'sejjer jaghmel ghax il-vot kien carissimu. Tajd, il-Klikka tal oligarkija hekk imsejha minn Franco stess qieghda titmermer u qieghed jibza li jekk jaghmel pass iehor jizgarra?Jekk il-Prim Ministru GonziPN ma ndunax, il-vot ta’ nhar it-Tnejn kien vot li wera l-hsibijiet u x-xewqa tal-parlament kollu u mhux kif qieghed jipprova ipingia hu li tal PL biss. Kellek Tnejn u ghaxra ohra imhasbin sur prim ministru.
lilly vella
Jun 24th 2012, 15:37
lanqas kapaci jghamel ministru minflok carm ma kien . jibza min rewwixta.
Lawrence Fenech
Jun 24th 2012, 15:30
From now on Gonz it's going to be a terrible experience all the way.
John Saliba
Jun 24th 2012, 15:28
My dear Prime Minister, show that you're still the most popular Number One and call an election. How can any right-minded Maltese dail to support you when you have kept your solemn promises to AirMalta, SeaMalta, Dockyard employees and they're still enjoybing their jobs. How can they live and prosper without you, the greatest of all PMs who has managed to cut down the cost of their utlily bills, of their gas cylinders and their fuel prices ? And in the meantime hoarding a pay hike of 500 eueo-a-week for the you and your ministers in total secrecy ? How can the voters bring down a PM who gave us an efficient Helath Service to the point of elimianting the 'long lists?'
Show Joseph Muscat that your still Top Dog, call his bluff and call an election because the people are dying to gieve you the surprise of your life. If you misred the voting intentions of only two persons when RCC was impeached, and hence you admitted that you were surprised, I never would like to be in your shoses, not even for a day, when the election returns begin to flow. They will turn into a mighty river which will sweep you and your rotten system into the deep blue sea of political oblivion.
Malcolm Farrugia
Jun 24th 2012, 15:27
Last Monday's vote was a clear one, and according to the "PM's" benchmark, what will he do now that JPO called GonziPn's bluff?
Joe Tabone
Jun 24th 2012, 16:16
Malcolm,
Before the vote (and this was repeated yesterday on Dissett) JPO declared that the PM does NOT need to call a vote of confidence as he will support him throughout the remaining period of the legislature. Not saying this, I too condemn JPO's vote with Labour, this because the objectives of the motion were purely opportunistic, something even Jesmond Mugliett confirmed. Jeffery is already paying the price of voting with Labour, as he is sinking fast, and nobody is really bothered. When you misplace the trust that people put in you will not be trusted!!
Mary Ann Borg
Jun 24th 2012, 15:24
Why all the hurry from the Lejburisti who wrote on this subject? According to all Lejburisti, the longer the Prime Minister, Dr Lawrence Gonzi, stays in power, the bigger will be the defeat for PN. So what is it? Dont the Lejburisti here want a victory by a huge margin?
So Lejber doesnt want people to talk of the past, because it shows what real Lejber is. They are going as far as having their leader wearing blue ties, sittiing under a blue tent and surrounded by women in blue dresses.
So Lejber doesnt want to speak about the present either, because a quick look at the party itself immediately shows there is a good amount of infighting and jostling. So much so that there are about 4 or 5 expecting to be nominated minister for the Economy. Of course, then there's Jason Micallef, who knows more about the present state of affairs in the Lejber Party.
But Lejber wants to talk about the future. A future which will make Malta bigger by building over the water by way of land reclamation, will make Malta more economically sound by doing away with students' stipends, and will make Malta more progressive and liberal by allowing not only same-sex marriage but also adoption of kids by gays and lesbians, the latter (adoption) being so unfair on the kids who happen to be brought up by same-sex parents. Three cheers to the future with Lejber. What else do we need?
m. borg (slm)
Jun 24th 2012, 16:13
Dear quoting you "......the longer the Prime Minister, Dr Lawrence Gonzi, stays in power, the bigger will be the defeat for PN."
The fret is all due to the fact that the longer gonzi stays on the larger the damage inflicted on the Islands, just look at the national debt and maybe you will understand.
Eddy Privitera
Jun 24th 2012, 16:14
Mary Ann Borg: did you attend lessons being give freely by Angelo Vassallo, on how to spell " lejburisti " ?
Sinjura jew Sinjorina TIDHER LI INT KATTOLIKA FERVENTI MILL-MOD KIF KTIBT. TAF LI MIN JIGDEB JAGHMEL DNUB ??? U JEKK TEMMEN BIN-NAR TAL-INFERN, TISTA TISPICCA HEMM ? TISTA TGHIDILNA MINN FEJN GIBTHA LI L-PL IRID L-ADDOZZJONI TAT-TFAL MILL-GAYS U L-LESBJANI ??
INT TAQBEL MA GONZI LI JRID LIL FRANCO DEBONO IKUN KANDIDAT ??
J CamilleriJC
Jun 24th 2012, 16:17
We need a more open minded society, less people like you who see ONLY red or blue, and a stable Government. Something that (i hope) deep down you realize we don't have right now.
K Mifsud
Jun 24th 2012, 16:18
So having the prime minister himself vote against the will of the majority of the voters of the country is a good thing right? GonziPN said that he wanted a clear vote in parliament now he got one what is he going to do. Thanks to his nonsense Malta has entered a recession and instead of analysing the statistics and try improve the situation they are blaming the statistics that they are misleading and inaccurate. Sorry but your comment is all monkey talk which clearly shows the desperate state of GonziPN.
J CamilleriJC
Jun 24th 2012, 16:20
....and keep on writing Lejburisti, shows how shallow your way of insulting is.......grow up
Joe Tabone
Jun 24th 2012, 16:25
@ Edy,
I would be cautious how I mention "...nhar ta' l-infern...." as some people are a bit sensitive to this, x'tahseb?!? I fully understand the comment by Ms Borg on gay-marriage/unions and adoption, as the PL proposals are very vague, can you clarify this proposal please?
About Franco Debono, I would put that question to Dear Joseph, as he seems to be very fond of FD, and tables motions in Parliament according to his tunes.
Chris Gatt
Jun 24th 2012, 17:45
|Really Ms Borg ? "adoption of kids by gays and lesbians, the latter (adoption) being so unfair on the kids who happen to be brought up by same-sex parents"? and what do you base this thinking on because so far there is not one shred of evidence in his regards. But then again since when does evidence form part of your argument.
Chris Gatt
Jun 24th 2012, 15:23
Dear God, will the PM never learn? At t the end of the day all that happened last Monday was his responsibility and his alone. The buck stopped with him and he is trying to dodge the bullet.
The man will be solely responsible not just for the downfall of CMB and RCC but of the PN also. and enough of this tosh abut old labour. If the PM was serious he would have changed the electoral law a long time ago. At the end of the day the PN had a great opportunity to change directions and they didn't. Now WE must suffer the consequences.Losers, the lot of them
Rita Smith
Jun 24th 2012, 16:55
You will suffer when Joseph Muscat will be at the Helm, maybe!
Rita smith
Peppi Borg
Jun 24th 2012, 15:10
Is the PM serious to declare that last Monday's vote was a vote of the PL? Dear PM it WAS a vote of parliament, the highest institution in our country! It was a clear vote and according to the benchmark which the PM himself have set what is he going to do about it now?
Mr Alexander Azzopardi
Jun 24th 2012, 15:08
Xi haga ohra li insejt insemmi re: "old labour at its best". Missek semejt li
Il mara tista tivota grazzi ghal Labour, kull min ghandu 18 il sena jista jivotta grazzi ghal labour u ta min iffakar il propoganda negativa tal Pn ul knisja dak iz zmien.
Anthony Arpa
Jun 24th 2012, 15:07
Jekk mhu qed jaghmel xejn tajjeb il Prim Ministru qed jaghmel tajjeb li ma paxxiex lil dawn it tlieta li qedin jimmullaw u ma marx jirrezenja u dan qed ihalli liljhom biex meta jogobhom u meta jriedu jiehu ir responsabilita kollha fuqhom u iwaaqaw il gvern huma ...
R. Balzan
Jun 24th 2012, 15:03
According to the PM, "People abroad, he noted, were questioning how could such a move take place in an EU country". Did it ever occur to you, dear PM, that other EU countries do not have a feeble government like yours, with a cabinet composed of very ordinary, quasi incompetent politicians and led by the worst PM in Malta's history? It's so easy to blame the opposition on everything, but we all know all these shenanigans are the result of your lack of proper leadership and a style of government that is arrogant and unacceptable in this day and age. You will realize all this very soon when the next general election's results are announced.
Rita Smith
Jun 24th 2012, 17:00
Hekk tahseb li Dr Gonzi arroganti? Mela int ma tafx xi tfisser arroganza? Arroganza ghax il-Prim Ministru ghandu sens ta duty lejn il-pajjiz. Biex trid timxi Malta!
Rita Smith
cesco di luigi
Jun 24th 2012, 18:56
people abroad......can stay abroad and sort out their own troubles....
R. Balzan
Jun 24th 2012, 19:23
@ Rita Smith - mela Gonzi arroganti?!! Mela qed nghixu fil-qamar sinjura?
John Zammit
Jun 24th 2012, 14:58
This shows how weak the Prime Minister Is. a Prime minister of the Clique and oligarchy (Franco DabonoNot the PL said so)Of course the PL will take a ride on these allegations. Last Monday's vote in parliament was not a PL vote but a Parliamentary Vote whether you like it or not You set the bench mark and you got the answer
Mr Alexander Azzopardi
Jun 24th 2012, 14:54
Ijwa ghalura f popolazjoni ta 450.000 +. Dan RCC mawx min jiehu postu ?? U nsaqsi lilhi nifsi - mela fejn huma dawn in nies li lehqu bi kwalifiki li taghjtu tant bijom fejn maru ? U l Prim Ministru xqed jistena jew x qed jipretendi jekk RCC zbalja u dan huwa fatt abjad fuq l iswed? Nasal biex nifhem li RCC tant huwa tal qalba tal PN & Co li vera memx min johodlu postu.
Edmond Micallef
Jun 24th 2012, 14:51
If by being vigilant towards a clean electoral democratic process the PL is being old labour at its best, then that is a positive sign of things to come if a change in government takes place.
Mr leo attard
Jun 24th 2012, 14:48
that's nothing! wait till you see the votes in the next general elections
James Hili
Jun 24th 2012, 14:48
The best thing Labour should do is just sit quietly and do nothing..Gonzi with his statements and way of doing things is paving the way for a PL victory at the next polls..So please let him do the work for you, he's really good at it !
Mario Fenech
Jun 24th 2012, 14:44
Why spend the money on centres for people with eating disorders when you can make pastizzi and imqaret illegal.
Cristian Darmanin
Jun 24th 2012, 15:43
BIs-serjeta?! How can you make pastizzi and imqaret illegal?! And what about the other junk food chains? What about the number of jobs lost?
Well, enough said cos most probabbly you are just kidding
George Azzopardi
Jun 24th 2012, 14:41
mhux int qed stedinta din-espejenza sur PM!
j brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 14:27
@Kleaven Maniscolo
"Sorry my friend, but the dictatorial age of Mintoff is now also being abolished from people's mentality....that is now really a NEW AGE"
Must have addressed your missive to the wrong person.
I fully agree that today's young persons' interest are in the future and NOT the past.
So you should have asked that question to the PN who persists to live in the Past, obviously because they have NO solutions to the future. The are suffering from what is known as 'government fatigue' after 25 WHOLE years in power!
And please don't quote the Dom in vain. In case you are too young to remember your PN friends sided with their long time foee the DOM in in 1998 to bring Dr Sant's government down. And Dr Sant DID not win the election by a mere 1500 votes!
Open your mind!
(jb)
Kleaven Maniscalco
Jun 24th 2012, 15:05
Now we will talk after the next general election when you start finding excuses for the qassati as usual.
I am not that young . I remember 1998 as if it was yesterday.
I remember my mother (who is a nurse and a passionate one), coming home from work (she worked at Zammit clapp) everyday crying because she was going to lose her beloved work place, because some minister decided to shut down Zammit Clapp because of costs. Now please go and try to convince her that your beloved party is the best choice for her. I bet she will blow your head off.
I remember people banging their heads to the desks trying to figure out how the SISA tax worked when filling their tax return forms.
I remember the day of the 1996 MLP win, people smashing their cash registers....only to find out the next day they had to buy a new one.
I remember a big heading on RAI 1....."No a Malta per l'Europa". That is how they defined the MLP victory. And the diplomatical damage that brought with it.
No my friend I remember well 1996 - 1998.
Kleaven Maniscalco
Jun 24th 2012, 15:13
eh and btw sant didnt win the 1998 by 12000 votes circa not 1500
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jun 24th 2012, 14:23
How could the PM say such words as Malta could lose millions of € uro, ? He has it the gutts to state such nonsense. First he bankrupt Malta as whole Nation , and now he is accusing the opposition of hindering !
You have to have nerve
Hence, if we Malta as a Nation sinks in debt , we blame the PL?
Give me strength
Ninu
Rita Smith
Jun 24th 2012, 17:07
Oh yes Malta bankrupt!!! Has anybody seen you reaching your hands out for l-elomosina? U hallina. Fejn qed tarah dan il- falliment? Isthu kollox taraw ikrah. Possibbli dan il-gvern ma ghamel xejn tajjeb? Jien ma l-ebda gvern ma staqaejt ghal xi favur. Ghamlu bhali. Inhossni ixxurtjata li ma ninsabx bhall-pajjizi ta madwarna jittallbu.
Rita Smith
Joseph Micallef
Jun 24th 2012, 14:22
My feet and trembling... it's so but so so terrible!!! I'm so frightened dear GonziPN. And yet GonziPN doesn't have the slightest decency of telling the truth. For him, political lying has become a de-facto way of conveying the message. He is accusing labour of this and yet he doesn't say that this motion was passed also by two members of his parliamentary group!! My oh my, this "prime minister" is so incredible, false, incompetent and detached.
And if this is "old labour at its best", he is putting my mind at total rest as the whole exercise was carried out in a truly democratic fashion with democratic principles being used and applied. It's GonziPN who is throwing all the democratic principles in the waste paper basket as first he said that RCC's replacement will be carried out within "days" and two days ago he changed his statement from "days" to "weeks". Shame, shame, shame!!
GonziPN morphed from "flimkien kollox possibli" to a melodrama .
j brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 14:18
"The Prime Minister also criticised the PL's applications in court for the removal of names from the electoral register and said this was "old labour at its best".
Persons are struck off the register AFTER our Court decides that that person in not entitled to vote according to the laws of Malta.
So what is troubling GonziPN's here? I am 100% sure that he is against any person voting when he/she is not entitled to? Am I stating the superfluous?
By the way why is GonziPN silent about our expired 2007 identity card? Cannot remember that this year they have yet been renewed by a legal notice.
(jb)
j brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 14:09
@Lucas North
"Sorry i think that honour has to go to KMB, who while being a gentleman and a man of integrity, was a horrible PM.."
North or is it South? (what funny names these days) your salvo can also go to the Emeritus who when the PN has its back at the wall is taken out of his hibernating cupboard!
(jb)
j brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 14:06
"but the opposition had no shame in hindering the work of the people who could get the best for Malta"
Who are those who have the best interest of Malta?
THOSE who pocketed €600 (later €500) a week while the man (woman) in the street took home a miserly €1.16?
Best inters of Malta, my foot!
By the way what was his pay package? Is it a state secret? And why?
(jb)
pat muscat
Jun 24th 2012, 14:03
Dr Fenech Adami gave his successor a political party on silver plate; and Dr Gonzi managed to annihilated it to oblivion! A really terrible experience!!
j brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 14:02
"If things were not done property, Malta could lose millions of euros but the opposition had no shame in hindering the work of the people who could get the best for Malta"
Who is to blame that the PN has rebels within it? It's certainly not the fault of the PL! The problems lies with himself for not keeping his whole team abroad!
GonziPN always blames the PL for the shortcoming of his PN government. So, really what's new?
The people by now are familiar with the problems besieging the PN. The people would also have liked GonziPN to put their minds at rest as regards the current problem of the frequent influx of illegal immigrants
So really why doesn't he go for an election now bases on his track record?
(jb)
Rita Smith
Jun 24th 2012, 17:11
Do you think that in your party all is bed of Roses. I don't think so JB. But at the moment you are craving to be in power so silence please!!
Rita Smith
Joseph Brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 14:01
Last Monday's vote 'a terrible experience' - PM
Gonzi pn , or should say Mother of all problems,
call it a day and call a GENERAL ELECTION
GOOD FOR YOU AND GOOD FOR MALTA !!!!
Joseph Brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 13:57
Last Monday's vote 'a terrible experience' - PM
Gonzi pn , or should say Mother of all problems,
call it a day and call a
j brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 13:53
"Last Monday's vote 'a terrible experience' - PM"
And yet he persist to hang on to power at all costs!
(jb)
Kleaven Maniscalco
Jun 24th 2012, 14:08
@ J. Brincat
We all know you somewhat are stuck to past mentalities.
But today's parlament is different. We are experiencing for the first time in History a parlament that is tending to be distinct from the administration. We are experiencing MPs that are being critical to Ministers....and that is the way it should be. At last we are getting over with the days that if you are in administration, everyone from the administrative side in parlament has to agree with the administration. That is not how parlament should work.
It is senseless to say that if there are MPs that are being critical, then the administration is weak. On the contrary, this paves the way to stronger policy making. The role of the PM now is far more difficult as he has to convince the whole of the parlament that what they are trying to put though is good. But the end result would be much better laws and policies.
Sorry my friend, but the dictatorial age of Mintoff is now also being abolished from people's mentality....that is now really a NEW AGE
E. Xuereb
Jun 24th 2012, 13:50
"The Prime Minister also criticised the PL's applications in court for the removal of names from the electoral register and said this was "old labour at its best"."
Thanks Dr.Gonzi for reminding us that it was the "old scary labour" that in the 1940's gave us all the right to vote including women and those aged above 18. At the time the PN was all out against this basic law of democracy as it only wanted the few 21 year old male landowners to vote and vote according to who much property and land they own. It is only thanks to the PL that we are able to choose democratically who governs our country and yes, it has every right to check with the courts who really is eligble to vote or not.
Rita Smith
Jun 24th 2012, 17:14
Yes he gave women the right to vote but at the same time he took away other rights. How is that for the Mintoffian era?
Rita Smith
James Tyrrell
Jun 24th 2012, 13:46
"People abroad, he noted, were questioning how could such a move take place in an EU country." Total rubbish. I'm one of the 'people abroad' and what people are asking is why the Maltese Government is hanging on by its fingernails when it doesn't have the support of the people? The answer of course is obvious because the present Maltese Government is not so much a democracy but more of an authoritarian regime. For those not familiar with the concept an authoritarian regime grant some amount of freedom (e.g. economic and cultural) as long as their rule is not jeopardized. The most important goal of authoritarian regimes is the maintenance of power and personal enrichment at the cost of the country and its population. Doesn't that sound more like GonziPN?
Joseph Brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 13:33
This vote, Dr Gonzi said, came at a delicate time for Malta, when the country was preparing to get down to important negotiations on its financial package for 2013 to 2020.
Well this vote YOU have made it ,in this delicate time for YOU have been Dragging it so far not the PL !!!!!
A. Mizzi
Jun 24th 2012, 13:27
Why is Dr. Gonzi so scared about an exercise to remover names from the electoral register, just what is he scared of?
Is the Electoral register a PaNdora's box?
Why this lack of transperancy, what have the P.N. to hide? Why all this dragging of feet ..?
Carmel Serracino-inglott
Jun 24th 2012, 15:11
IT is not to object to names appearing in the ER but it is the vile thing to include many names of known party tendencies just to make the process long enough that some who win their protest fail to make it to the polls. This is outragious, undemocratic and labour like. Yes , we have to remind everyone of the labour's past because it is still with us . Dr. Al. Sant tried to erase the past were it not for DOM to save Malta from labour and at least we lived these last few years ; but Dr. Al Sant efforts have evaporated with JM and his tactics of the bad old MLP times because these times are already here so beware Malta.
lilly vella
Jun 24th 2012, 13:22
ma tistax taghalaq halq in nies iktar lawrence.. jekk qed tahseb li jirnexxielek taghalaq halq kullhadd b xi mod jew iehor , ghal darb ohra int zbaljat , int ma temminx f demokrazzijja dejjem imma demokrazijja dement li jaqbel lilek . il gimics ta my choice , voice , u my ma nafx xiex ghad tivvintaw mhux bizzejjed kontra d diskors qawwi ta daghlodu tal mexxej laburista . dalghodu dr muscat ghamel diskors t ghaqda ,u dan int ma tridux u nfexxxejt f attakki horox kontra l partit laburista .illum int ma tingharafx li gonzi li kont tahdem mal persuni b dizabilta .
s grima
Jun 24th 2012, 13:21
tagel xejn sur pm iktar ma dun igranfat mal poter ikbar ikun iz zunami li gej ghalik u ghal partit tighek!!!!
Justin Tabone
Jun 24th 2012, 13:16
Mr North. we are living today, 2012. PM's are judged on what they achieve on the day. At least KMB had the support of his own MP's!!
How can someone trust a PM when neither his fellow MP's fail to trust him? I hate to say it but the truth is that Dr Gonzi has a serious problem of communication.
Joseph Brincat
Jun 24th 2012, 13:11
The Prime Minister also criticised the PL's applications in court for the removal of names from the electoral register and said this was "old labour at its best"
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So Gonzi pn believes that that People DEAD OR ALIVE,and not entitled to VOTE should VOTE !!!
WHAT HE THINKS WE ARE >>> STUPID
Kenneth Cremona
Jun 24th 2012, 13:56
Labour commenting about the dead/alive people in the electoral register after the 2003 shambles.
You have no shame?
Lawrence Camilleri
Jun 24th 2012, 13:07
Kull ma qal Dr Gonzi hija l-verita' sagrosanta. U iktar mill-PL huwa JPO li jista' jiftahar li kien l-arkitett li Malta se titlef miljuni ta' Euros fiz-zmien li gej. Kif ghandu zejt f'wiccu biex jiffaccja lill-poplu?
A. Xuereb
Jun 24th 2012, 14:13
Biza,biza u biza...dejjem l-istess kantaliena mill-PN... ... Dejjem ibezzghu mill-babaw.Jekk Malta veru ser titlef dawk il-miljuni kollha huwa tort ta min halla l-affarijiet ta Malta f idejn 4 min-nies. X tghidilna ghal miljuni li Malta ser titlef mis-self lil-Grecja u l-Spanja? Jew dawk ma' jimpurtax?
Justin Tabone
Jun 24th 2012, 13:03
Got the point. So you are the only one that knows everything? So you are a sort of Mr Perfect, the untouchable, the stupur mundi type of person that dictates on everyone as if what you say is always the right and correct way. So RCC is the only one in Malta fit for that job? I wonder why you always blame the opposition while your leadership is in shambles. Your extreme conservatism, is heading you in brick wall while your valid backbenchers within your ranks are given the hard shoulder. Now its too too late. People trusted you last election, but now please just do a big favour to everyone and accept the fact that you are a big failure and the worst PM in the history of Malta.
Lucas North
Jun 24th 2012, 13:08
Sorry i think that honour has to go to KMB, who while being a gentleman and a man of integrity, was a horrible PM...
Gorg Sciberras
Jun 24th 2012, 13:10
Your reasoning is a bit flawed. He never said RCC is the only person fit for the job, but it is undeniable that he has done an excellent job. The problem is that with the problems facing Europe at this point in time and the negotiations going on, the replacement has to hit the ground running. You do not replace a decade or more of experience in a couple of weeks, no matter how good the replacement is.
I also take exception to your last sentence. Do you seriously think that Lawrence Gonzi is worse than Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici? Or Mintoff for that matter?
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jun 24th 2012, 13:12
Lucas, now you mention KMB, I can see the resemblance.
Eddy Privitera
Jun 24th 2012, 13:50
Gorg Sciberras: Biex tipprova tqabbel lil Lawrence Gonzi ma Mintoff, qisek qed tqabbel zring ma ziemel !
Anthony Pace
Jun 24th 2012, 13:03
The terrible experience is that the PN wil loose the next election and go into oblivion for a couple of decades with the emergence of a third party a consequent probability.
ANTHONY PAVIA
Jun 24th 2012, 13:10
Not necessarily a third party, but a rejuvenated, regenerated, principled, forward looking, middle of the road, fresh PN.
Kleaven Maniscalco
Jun 24th 2012, 13:37
You are right in saying that PN will lose the coming general election. But PN can recouperate quickly....and believe me they will.....a PL victory during the coming election will be the begining of the end for JM
John Lusignan
Jun 24th 2012, 14:10
the only party that went into oblivion is the MLP.....oh sorry the PL! (so deep into oblivion that they had to change their party name, change their image to blue and get consultants to tell them what to wear and how to do their hair). LOL.
Henry Mifsud
Jun 24th 2012, 12:55
Keep on preaching to the converted and you are going to be surprised for yet another time.
But it seems that surprises are the norm for our PM lately.
Joseph Micallef
Jun 24th 2012, 14:12
Ditto Henry. I'm ultra surprised seeing the PM surprised :) He is so detached.
Michael Gatt
Jun 24th 2012, 12:54
Tlift il kredibilta li seta kellek u iktar ma dum fit tmun tal pajjiz ilktar jizdied is support lejn il labour
Joseph Aquilina
Jun 24th 2012, 13:03
but I am sure you believe in JPO right!! Don't make me laugh!!
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