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Stabbed in the back, for the second time

Richard Cachia Caruana. Photo: Austin Tufigno

Richard Cachia Caruana. Photo: Austin Tufigno

Malta’s EU ambassador Richard Cachia Caruana tells Christian Peregin he knew there were issues with Dr Pullicino Orlando and had offered to step down, but the PN backbencher wanted more than just his scalp.

When Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando voted against you in Parliament, you must have felt betrayed. In 1994, you were literally stabbed in the back. Which was more painful?

After talking to Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando I left with the impression – which I was obviously meant to receive – that there was no problem

Obviously, the physical one. But if we are talking about surprise I must say the day the opposition’s motion against me was presented, I received a message from a Labour Party contact saying: “We had no choice.This came from your side and not from the usual person.”

At that point did you suspect they were referring to Dr Pullicino Orlando?

He was the most likely person. A couple of days later, someone else confirmed it was him. That week, the Prime Minister had a chat with him and was led to believe there were no issues.

What did Dr Pullicino Orlando tell him?

I was not present. But the indications were there was no issue. Over the weeks there were other people who spoke to him and were told: “No one should believe what the Labour Party says because they talk so much rubbish.”

However, after the first sitting at which I gave evidence to Parliament’s foreign affairs committee, Dr Pullicino Orlando turned up, looking extremely nervous.

How did you feel about that?

When I saw him there, in my mind I thought there was a problem, so a few days later I messaged him to ask if we could meet. We arranged to meet on June 5. I went to his house and received an extremely warm welcome.

So he was friendly with you?

For the past three years he has always been friendly with me.

But you have had tension in the past.

Yes, because of an episode concerning the 2008 election. In fact I started the business part of the discussion by saying: “I know you testified in court that I attempted to get [columnist] Daphne Caruana Galizia to pressure you to resign after the election but that’s absolutely false.”

So you never called Ms Caruana Galizia to say you think he should resign his seat?

Absolutely not. Dr Pullicino Orlando explained how he remembers their exchange. I pointed out she denied his version under oath. I also told him my position after the election was one of simple arithmetic. The Nationalist Party had been elected to government and he held a seat in a one-seat majority. So as far as I was concerned, the discussion was over.

You needed him...

The government could not operate without his vote in Parliament. And I said if I could draw parallel with the motion in Parliament at the moment, it was also an issue of arithmetic. I told him: “If you believe you should vote for the motion, just tell me and I’ll leave.”

So if he had told you he had to vote for the motion you would have resigned on that day?

Of course.

Wouldn’t you have put pressure on him to change his mind?

There would have been no sense in doing that...

When you told him this, what did he say?

His response was: “If I didn’t vote against Austin Gatt when he did me so much harm, why should you think I would vote against you?”

So he never asked you about Partnership for Peace?

No.

He says he told you he wouldn’t vote against you for personal reasons. Is he paraphrasing?

If he had put it that way I would have assumed that he was going to vote against me.

Whereas you didn’t...

No. I left his house after more than an hour in what continued to be an extremely good-natured discussion. I left with the impression – which I was obviously meant to receive – that there was no problem.

So he tried to deceive you?

He did not only try. He deceived me and he deceived everybody else. Having said that, after I spoke to him there were still signals suggesting there was a problem, which is why I had a resignation letter prepared.

Why do you think he did this?

His intention all along was to vote in the most damaging way to me and to the party... to hurt or humiliate in the most public way possible. That is the only conclusion one can draw. If I could put it this way, he behaved just like a certain kind of Sicilian... not the sort you would want to do business with.

So you do not believe he voted against you because you advocated a lack of parliamentary scrutiny when discussing Partnership for Peace in your role as EU ambassador?

From the way he spoke in Parliament and afterwards, notwithstanding his claim that it was not personal, it is obvious it was purely personal. You do not adopt Mintoffian vindictiveness unless you want to cause harm on a personal basis to an individual... which implies revenge of some sort. Revenge can only be personal.

He said the way you acted with him before the election and after showed a lack of respect towards Parliament. Therefore, he believed the accusation of lack of respect towards Parliament brought about in the motion. Although you’re saying it was just personal, he did link this to the motion.

His attack went beyond what was necessary to achieve his aim, which in this case was to get rid of me. I had already said to him: if you want my scalp, take it. But that was obviously not his only aim.

So it wasn’t personal. He wanted to inflict maximum damage to the government.

If you ignore the part where he says this was not personal, the rest is basically a personal attack. In Parliament he went on at length about what he saw as slights inflicted on him by me through journalists.

Nationalist MP Jesmond Mugliett abstained from the vote because he said he did not fully buy into the government’s explanation that PfP reactivation did not require parliamentary ratification. Given there was no electoral mandate, the government should have sought Parliament’s approval anyway. Isn’t he right?

The hearings have shown that it wasn’t legally necessary.

But he’s saying it was necessary morally.

The motion was on the basis of what was required. But there is also one simple point to remember. The decision or assessment about whether to go to Parliament or not was not mine. That was made clear by the Prime Minister in his testimony.

So if it was wrong, you should not be the one to take the fall for it?

It’s obvious that it was nothing to do with Partnership for Peace or Wikileaks. That was just an excuse... which blew up in their faces as soon as the Prime Minister testified.

In any case, the interface with Parliament is the responsibility of ministers which is why they are also Members of Parliament.

Is he right, though? Would it have been better if the government went to Parliament?

The process of joining PfP in 2008 was handled directly by government, which takes decisions usually based on whether there is a legal requirement to go to Parliament. In this particular case the opinion was that there was no requirement. It was not mine, I did not give one.

The decision (to join PfP) was taken nine days after the election because there was a Nato summit in Sofia at the beginning of April. The next Nato summit was due a year later in 2008. So the government felt it needed to move relatively fast.

That fast?

As I understand it, if we had not rejoined in April, we would not have been able to join until a year later.

But the Prime Minister told the US ambassador in January 2008 that he was planning to do this all along.

I did not know what the Prime Minister had said. I was not present.

Was he aware of the Sofia meeting?

I do not know if the Prime Minister was aware of the Sofia meeting then. I heard about it after the election.

And at that stage you agreed with the government’s strategy of joining now so we do not lose a year.

Precisely.

So do you think Mr Mugliett’s vote was also personal?

What I have learnt over many years is that some people will transfer their hatred or contempt of an individual to a person they associate with them.

Given the facts, I believe Jesmond Mugliett used me, in part, as a proxy for the Prime Minister and in part as a proxy for Daphne Caruana Galizia.

Did he give you any indication before the vote?

I know Jesmond (Mugliett) was spoken to the day before and said he was not expecting any issues to arise. He has since explained somewhere that he took the decision that evening. In other words it could have been an opportunistic decision...

Dr Pullicino Orlando interpreted the Wikileaks documents as exposing the real reason behind Malta’s favourable stance towards Turkey’s EU accession bid.

In Parliament I showed how Foreign Minister Michael Frendo announced Malta’s support for Turkey’s bid before there was any discussion with the US or Turkey on our status regarding PfP. So there is no link.

However, Turkey wanted to secure Malta’s support for a vote that was to be taken in December 2004 so they wanted to keep us happy and find a solution to the blockage on EU-Nato discussions.

So why did they refuse the procedural band-aid proposed?

Because it would have created another category of PfP membership they were not comfortable with.

Dr Pullicino Orlando argues that while the public was kept in the dark, you were discussing with the Turks.

At the end of the day Parliament has a right to know, and the government has an obligation to inform, in certain situations. The government did not believe this was one of those situations. However, when you try and blame me for that, it is nothing but an attempt at a trumped-up charge.

How do you feel about Malta’s support for Turkey?

My position on Turkey is precisely what makes Dr Pullicino Orlando’s comments the ultimate falsehood in a list of false accusations. I follow government policy 100 per cent and have always done so and although I must remain circumspect in what I say, I have certain concerns.

So you weren’t the one proposing it to the government?

Absolutely not. Is that clear enough?

Do you think Nationalist MPs had a duty to tell you how they were going to vote?

No, but there’s a parliamentary group and they have a duty to tell the whip... We are all supposed to belong to a democratic structure so if anybody disagrees with somebody in the party structure there should be a discussion.

Do you believe Dr Pullicino Orlando when he says there were around 10 MPs who were uncomfortable voting for you?

I have seen nothing but respect – reciprocal respect – from the whole parliamentary group and even previous parliamentary groups. That has to be factored in to the reality of what Franco Debono and Dr Pullicino Orlando have said about me.

Did you notice a difference in the way the party reacted to your beheading with the way it reacted to Carm Mifsud Bonnici’s? You didn’t receive any e-cards for instance...

I think you would agree that, with hindsight, the e-card initiative was not ideal. But to give one example, Louis Galea, who has been involved in politics for many years, described what happened to me as the worst day of his political life.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici is a Member of Parliament with a public following, but do not mix that up with whether people thought what happened to me was right or wrong.

Dr Pullicino Orlando said there weren’t many MPs willing to speak in your defence?

Since the debate was limited to one sitting, the Prime Minister and Leader of the House had decided to restrict the number of speakers.

What consequences should Dr Pullicino Orlando and Mr Mugliett face?

It’s not my place to say. My message to everybody is that I accept the right of any MP – or anyone else for that matter – to not like me. But using your seat in parliament, given to you by Nationalist voters, as a tool for personal vengeance, is a gross abuse of power. Also, the deliberate misleading of the Prime Minister and parliamentary colleagues is not acceptable behaviour.

Do you think Dr Pullicino Orlando told Labour leader Joseph Muscat how he would vote before the motion was presented?

The way things developed makes it quite clear that Labour knew what the outcome of the vote would be even before the motion was presented. And I find it very sad that a person who hopes to be Prime Minister – a role requiring a person of the highest integrity that you can basically trust with your life – associated himself with an act of vindictiveness we have not seen in Malta in 30 years.

In one of your very rare interviews, in 2009, you said Dr Pullicino Orlando was victimised by the Labour Party during the 2008 election and described him as a “much-valued political colleague”. Do you regret those words?

I regret only that he found himself unable to overcome his own insecurities and failures.

Ostensibly, Parliament passed this motion because the majority of MPs expressed the opinion you showed a lack of respect towards it. Yet you are here still doing your job. Are you proving Parliament right?

Absolutely not. I have a duty and obligation to serve the government as it deems fit.

He behaved just like a certain kind of Sicilian... not the sort you would want to do business with

But Dr Mifsud Bonnici renounced his mobile phone and driver immediately after the vote.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici was a minister, answerable to Parliament. When ministers lose a confidence vote in Parliament, they have no choice but to resign. Ambassadors are not answerable to Parliament. I resigned because it was the correct thing to do, not because Parliament had a legal right to remove me. Also, ambassadors are based overseas with a residence and effects there. Their moves cannot be made overnight.

The Prime Minister asked you to remain for some weeks until a replacement is found. How long will that take?

My farewell dinner and ceremony are already scheduled for July 11.

So after that you will pack your bags and leave?

I will obviously have to pack my bags before. But appreciate that there are bags to pack. In fact, I consider the recent comments made by Dr Muscat about my departure to be in very poor taste, not fitting of a future Prime Minister – although they are classic Mintoffian sentiments.

Do you believe you are irreplaceable?

Absolutely not. It is true I have over 14 years of EU experience, which is not easy to duplicate. And to combine that with the skills I have is not necessarily easy.

But we have extremely good people in our structures.

What sort of qualities does your replacement have to have?

If my replacement does the two jobs I have done over the past eight years, he or she must first have to be mad.

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M Borg

Jun 25th 2012, 15:39

Maybe this will help you understand. Ambassadors are not answerable to Parliament.

Quote.......


The position set out by Lord O'Donnell, supported by Lord Butler (another former Civil Service head) is simple. Civil Servants are accountable to Ministers, who are in turn accountable to Parliament - not directly to Parliament. The only exception is the role of 'Accounting Officer' - i.e. Civil Servants who are in charge of a departmental or agency budget - who are accountable but only for the proper administration of public funds. If and when they or other civil servants appear before Parliamentary Committees they do so merely as representatives of their Ministers and can say only what their Minister allows them to say.

O'Donnell is basing himself on a tradition enunciated by Lord Armstrong (then Sir Robert, Head of the Civil Service), known as the 'Armstrong Doctrine', a memorandum circulated in 1985 after the Clive Ponting Affair. In that Armstrong stated that "The Civil Service as such has no constitutional personality or responsibility separate from the duly elected Government of the day." (Hennessy, 1989, p346). In other words, they are solely responsible to Ministers.

When it comes to answering to Parliament this position was set out clearly in something known as the "Osmotherly Rules" (Memorandum of Guidance for Officials Appearing before Select Committees, May 1980, by E B C Osmotherly). These were (and still are) an attempt by the Civil Service to stymie the new Select Committee's (Hennessy 1989, pp 361-363). Osmotherly stated baldly that "Officials appearing before Select Committees do so on behalf of their Ministers." It went on to say that officials "would remain subject to Ministerial instructions as to how he should answer questions."

Victor Laiviera

Jun 25th 2012, 20:59

You have quoted the opinion of two heads of the Civil Service, who would naturally try to avoid having to face parliamentary grilling.

Normally, when quoting. one include the source and a link so that we can check how complete and faithful your quote is. However, I managed to find it (good old Google!) and, as I suspected, you were very selective in your quote.

Here is the link, so anyone can read for himself: http://whitehallwatch.org/2012/03/10/is-the-civil-service-accountable-to-parliament-hodge-vs-odonnell-spat-opens-a-can-of-worms/

I will just quote part of the conclusion, "In most other democracies the permanent civil service is much more accountable to both the legislature and the executive branch of government. Britain, or rather Whitehall, lies at one (extreme) end of a spectrum of such relationships, with accountability of the Civil Service to Parliament being very weak in comparison".

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 11:10

Peter Frendo:Please tell us what these people did when they were in power ! Are you referring to ALL the social services, pension, bonus, children allowance, 40 hour 5 day week , equal pay for women, vote for 18 year olds, free education up to tertiary level, free health services and free medicine etc..etc..etc.. !!!!!!!!!!

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 11:15

Salvu Sciberras: RCC's " savoir faire" did you say ?? Did you find this when he said yesterday that he ADMIRES DAPHNE CARUANA GAIZIA, nicknamed also as 'The Queen of Bile " ? Or when he said that labourites treat nationalists as " subhuman " ???? THIS MAN HAS NOW REVEALED HIS HATE FOR HALF OF THE MALTESE PEOPLE WHEN HE SAID THAT. Definitely not worthy of a man who was supposed to represent our country and thus all the people, in Brussels !!!

Joe Fenech

Jun 24th 2012, 17:02

Dream on !

Mr Joe Micallef

Jun 24th 2012, 16:37

Pity Einstein is not around! He could have multiplied his discoveries using your logic. Bravo. Imbghad xi hadd ghal li il Maltin makku!

Joseph Arpa

Jun 24th 2012, 16:51

I agree with your last sentence Mr.Micallef, what we have today is a Democratic Dictatorship!!!

T Attard

Jun 24th 2012, 17:00

Interesting points Mr Micallef and a subjective interpretation for sure, however don't be too pessimistic in your assessment; democracy doesn't vanish because, at most, a party stalwart has an inflated ego. Especially as it didn't vanish after the historic barbarism the Islands witnessed during the Socialist years - the beatings, the shootings, the crude terrorism towards those who didn't toe the line.

Remember the picture of the woman who had her nose BITTEN OFF by Socialists supporters for the unforgivable arrogance of attempting to attend a PN activity at Zejtun? If you don't then let us humbly teach you; that is how democracy dies, and in case that is too distant a past for your delicate sensibilities ask your shadow cabinet for details; half of them (Vella, Sciberras Trigona, Brincat, Bartolo, Debono Grech, Farrugia) were present and complicit some by silence others by action.

Thanks for your concern for democracy, it is truly a priceless privilege, I know.

Andy Farrugia

Jun 24th 2012, 17:47

Hahaha! Thobb iddahhak naqra mhux hazin int, hux, Joseph Micallef? U l-paraguni tieghek huma brillanti, bin-Nazi style b'kollox, hux? Tghallem ikteb naqra bl-Ingliz sew l-ewwel, imbaghad ipprova idejk fil-fares!

cesco di luigi

Jun 24th 2012, 18:34

Now we know why RCC kept his mouth shut for so many years....the one time he opened it (Times interview) he slipped in so many banana skins...Good to know this guy is actually mortal... the myth has exploded!!!!!

GL Calleja

Jun 24th 2012, 17:00

It is starting to look that way, doesn't it? When one of your own Party turns on you, one has to be very concerned. Two people have lost their jobs at the expense of others. I respect both JPO and FD, but I think they are very wrong on this one. You never, ever go against a fellow party member. That is the job of the opposition.

Alfred Vassallo

Jun 24th 2012, 15:42

Oh yes God is certainly helping Malta showing what the pn are really made off.

Lino Fava

Jun 24th 2012, 16:03

From what God should help? From the labour party that brought real jobs. Tried to help the people to stay in Malta and not given a 10 Lira to get rid of his people and now foreigners coming to serve you with cheap labour. From a labour government who gave to the people? Not like GonziPN and his oligarchy giving themselves rewards for bankrupting Malta. At last the devil who gave you the rope of 25 years is suffocating around your necks.

Edmond Micallef

Jun 24th 2012, 14:45

That is why we have a circa 6.5 billion euros worth of national debts then?

T Mifsud

Jun 24th 2012, 15:17

What logic sense does your reply have?

1. The funding engineered by RCC, like him or hate him, brought several projects to fruition, never mind the obstacles some politicians tried to do, from both sides!
2. The debt would have been much more without the millions brought in to Malta
3. Malta is fairing the least worse of almost all EU states in this general wide affecting Recession of all time!!

Do you realise ALL EU countries surrounding us Starting from Spain, Italy, Greece and Cyprus are, or have asked for bailouts and introducing harsh austerity measures? And do you realise that the remaining countries surrounding us are just coming out of war?

Some only see sal-bankina!

Hubert Paul Farrugia

Jun 24th 2012, 14:42

Which democratic frame? Attacking employed government civil servants through a parliamentary vote? God forbid if a parliamentary vote, sacking you, would ever be cast upon you.

Joe Vella

Jun 24th 2012, 14:46

Explain please. What happened this past week never had happened before in any Parliamentary Democracy

Joe Fenech

Jun 24th 2012, 17:00

This was given the blessing of the speaker so it is perfectly legal, therefore democratic.

R. Cilia

Jun 24th 2012, 15:14

Well said J.Busuttil.He who laughs last, laughs best.

cesco di luigi

Jun 24th 2012, 15:43

RCC meta jaqbillu jissejjah civil servant u meta jaqbillu jissejjah membru tal-kabinett. Dawn privileggi li nahseb jien ivvinthom hu u hadd ma kellu il-guts imerrih!!!

Michael Seychell

Jun 24th 2012, 14:23

Ms. Pat Muscat - For the first time I agree fully with you - JPO voted with the opposition to take his pound of flesh - infact he got the full flesh of RCC.

Michael Seychell tal-Pieta

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 11:18

And after reading what RCC told Christian Peregin, he convinced me that HE DESERVED WHAT HE GOT !!!

cesco di luigi

Jun 24th 2012, 15:47

I think you will find that for a man who held power for so long he has not revealed anything at all. I expect some juicy stories to emerge soon, when he moves fully away from the corridors of power, from people who he may have "stabbed" himself. Lets wait a bit. At least he was allowed a full article in the paper . Not many who have been cheated in the civil service have been allowed even to voice an opinion!!! And by the way if he wasn't removed by Parliament who was going to remove him...the head of the civil service???

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 15:50

So much for vindictive labour.

M Grima

Jun 24th 2012, 18:02

But than you were not made to resign for circumventing parliament Mr. Saliba?

The issue about RCC is different to yours, however I find your piece in bad taste coming from a supposedly distinguished ambassador. The PL treated you as you should be treated.

Evarist Saliba

Jun 24th 2012, 19:36

@ m. borg (slm)
As usual, you ignore the point made and go at a tangent.
I pointed out that a resignation need not imply the immediate giving up of an office and I proved this through my experience when I resigned when Dr G. Vella became Minister of Foreign Affairs. The vindictiveness was show when, sheltered behind parliamentary immunity, Dr G. Vella repeatedly attacked me in parliament, and when I was one of the very last ambassadors to receive the remuneration to which I was entitled on termination of employment.
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@ m. grima
Your comment is in very bad taste.
I never claimed, or even implied, that my resignation was not what should have happened. Indeed, on a change of government seniour government officials are expected to offer their resignsation. I did not offer it. I handed it in because I was not ready to serve under a minister who had repeatedly attacked me protected by parliamentary privilage. I have no doubt that neither did the minister wish to have me serving under him as an ambassador, but he felt he needed a time of transition.

Incidentally, claiming that Richard Cachia Caruana circumvented parliament in a lie, and even if Labour parliamentarians and JPO repeat this claim a thousand times, it still remains a lie. He, and any other ambassador, was/is not empowered to bring anything before parliament. That is the prerogative of elected parliamentarians.

The perversity with which you, and people like you, go on repeating this lie shows how utterly baseless the motion against Richard Cahia Caruana has been.

Joe Fenech

Jun 24th 2012, 17:02

I share your feeling perfectly. Maltese people who maintain strong links with the country never change, they could be living in London, Paris, Brussels or Timbuktu!

George Azzopardi

Jun 24th 2012, 16:39

what arrogance!!! ... Ambassadors are not answerable to the highest authority, democratically elected by the Maltese people! and GonziPN are so proud of such people!!!

Eddy Privitera

Jun 25th 2012, 11:20

So even DICTATORS who remain in office for the same amount of time RCC has been wielding the POWER BEHIND HE THRONE- 21 years, should also be considered as "DEANS" ?!

cesco di luigi

Jun 24th 2012, 15:49

I agree. Some of us do not have the luxury of publishing the acts of vindicitiveness that were done to us....for fear of more vindictiveness from the PN!!!!!

Henry Mifsud

Jun 24th 2012, 13:42

@ Paul Caruana: I am no expert in football but if I recall correctly an autogoal is when one of the players scores in the net of his own team. Both FD and JPO did this so your argument is completely out of point; or should I say off-side?

Again your knowledge of chess seems to be quite narrow as normally a check-mate occurs when the King is brought to a point where he cannot move; PM Gonzi has been in that position for quite sometime due to his own doing.

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 15:52

@j brincat,

did you or did you not read my post?

The firts paragraph is an RCC quote from the Times itself (abpve).

A Dimech

Jun 24th 2012, 11:53

I don't agree; I think he smells so much of arrogance that this comment says it all:-

"Absolutely not. It is true I have over 14 years of EU experience, which is not easy to duplicate. And to combine that with the skills I have is not necessarily easy."

how arrogant is that!!

Joseph Brincat

Jun 24th 2012, 11:54

Dunistan Crockford
YOU ARE RIGHT >> MALTA LOSS hear credibility WHAT GONZI PN

Henry Mifsud

Jun 24th 2012, 12:52

From the above interview, RCC made it quite obvious that first and foremost it is GonziPN's loss as he portrayed himself as God's gift to half of Malta's population.

Dunstan Crockford

Jun 24th 2012, 17:20

@Joseph Brincat...I wish I could understand your reply to my comment!

Joseph Brincat

Jun 24th 2012, 12:39

It is now very evident that the Labour party was conspiring with a PN MP to reach its goals
So if the GOD FATHER said so you you believe so >>> BLIND FOLDED

Denis Pace

Jun 24th 2012, 13:20

Joseph Muscat has only ONE thing on his mind....GAIN POWER....If he has to make a deal with the devil, then be it!

Unlewss he changes dramatically into a real statesman if he gets elected to power, Malta will be in for a TOUGH time!

Ms Rudi Mcbeal

Jun 24th 2012, 12:14

Oh well, of you and your ilk I do not expect anything different.

You should perhaps apply for his job. Malta needs you.

Karl Bugeja

Jun 24th 2012, 12:38

Why are you addressing Labour ? Forgot that 2 of the government MPs did not vote with the government ?!

Stop this hatred !

Andy Farrugia

Jun 24th 2012, 12:08

And again!

Michael Seychell

Jun 24th 2012, 14:39

Sur Massa - Kieku kien kif ghidt int, allura il-Partit Laburista ilu cicci beqqi 8 snin ghax dan il-kas daqshekk imur lura.

Il-verita hi li Joe Muscat u shabu bdew jisimghu lill Franco Debono jikkritika lill RCC u ddecedew li jaghmlu mozzjioni ghax emmnu li FC kien ser jivvota maghhom kif ghamel fuq il Ministru Mifsud Bonnici.

Meta ndunaw li Franco kellu hsieb iehor, bn'xi mod saru jafu li JPO kien sar ikun li strument taghhom, u biex jaccertaw ruhom inqdew ukoll b'JM tal PN.

Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta

Alfred Vassallo

Jun 24th 2012, 15:06

@Michael Seychell

Mela ''Il-verita hi li Joe Muscat u shabu bdew jisimghu lill Franco Debono jikkritika lill RCC u ddecedew li jaghmlu mozzjioni ghax emmnu li FC kien ser jivvota maghhom kif ghamel'' ....U ''Meta ndunaw li Franco kellu hsieb iehor, bn'xi mod saru jafu li JPO ''........ U HALINA mela int tahseb u trid tbella lil nies kif tiraguna int......Il fatti huma li bejn il PN mhemx u qatt ma kien hemm rispett lejn hadd u jekk illum wahaltuli, impatijilek meta ikun il mument. Daqshekk kolla u spicca.

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 12:07

Let us not forget that RCC is an integral part of PN/gonzipn electoral tactical team which means that RCC has conflict of interests when it comes to his ambassadorial services.

Serve the party or the country?

One can't have his toast buttered on both sides.

Joe Tabone

Jun 24th 2012, 11:28

Kenneth,
I don't agree here, the whole issue revolved around the 2 opportunitic motions tabled by Dear Joseph AFTER the dicussion in parliament by Franco Debono. Two motions of censure but tabled differently, one was against a Minister (the civil servants responsible were not even mentioned) and the other was against a Civil Servant. In the one against the civil servant (RCC) , Labour did not prove their case, as Jesmond Mugliett stated yesterday, neither did they censure the Minsiter responsible. However Jeffrey decided to vote with Labour, a decision that has exposed his real intentions.
No wonder he decided not to contest the next elections.............after a poll in a local newspaper showed he lost popular support. Turncoats are all-round losers...............not trusted by anyone!

J Grima

Jun 24th 2012, 11:12

Well said ! It's not like he's ever going to admit anything......

twanny borg

Jun 24th 2012, 10:36

anki jien nammira lil dcg ghal kuragg taghha li tghid dak li thoss minghajr biza'. ara jpo beza (jew biex jingannah) jghidlu f'wiccu li se jivvota kontrih.

Frans Aguis

Jun 24th 2012, 10:51

Yes it requires plenty of courage to call family members names, and also bring in small children.wow...

J Grima

Jun 24th 2012, 11:14

Shows your true colours Twanny Borg

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 11:27

@twanny borg

Il-garra gejja u sejra fl'ahhar tinkisser.

twanny borg

Jun 24th 2012, 12:33

@j. grima: iva ahjar ikollok miljun bhal dcg milli wiehed li jonhoq il-liberta li tghid dak li thoss.

Michael Seychell

Jun 24th 2012, 14:42

Ray Spiter - prove it!

Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 11:29

......and why did gonzi accept a limited debate?

Because in his ARROGANCE he thought he had a secure vote.

cesco di luigi

Jun 24th 2012, 15:55

With all the talk of RCC's canniness and cunning I think JPO proved to be the better strategist...RCC must have been really naive to think that JPO was going to reveal his hand...sorry RCC you lost this one...it's as simple as that....try getting ELECTED to parliament for once and then you can try the same trick yourself!!!!

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 11:30

Il-kelma ta' RCC kontra dik ta' JPO. Lil min temmen, jien lil l-ebda wiehed minnhom it-tnejn ghandhom l-agenda taghhom.

Michael Seychell

Jun 24th 2012, 14:45

Twanny zgur emmint lill JPO minhabba l-biki li beka l-Mosta!

Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 11:31

Well put Pat.

Some people think they have divine rights over others.

B Attard

Jun 24th 2012, 16:26

He was the most important to others.

mario salnitro

Jun 24th 2012, 10:56

I do not agree with you ,and many other Maltese citizens agree with me for sure.
It might be sad for you but definitely not for me.
Good riddance !!!

A Dimech

Jun 24th 2012, 11:27

Not sad for me.

Arrogance has been removed!

m. borg (slm)

Jun 24th 2012, 11:32

Mr Salnitro , Mr Vassallo has a right to his opinion no matter how wrong it might be.

Vince Deguara

Jun 24th 2012, 10:30

Have you really got nothing better with life, than re-writing the interview line by line and re-blabb the PL's trump cards?

twanny borg

Jun 24th 2012, 10:27

-azzjoni kienet tal-gvern mhux tal-rcc. differenza kollha

jason gatt

Jun 24th 2012, 12:01

Twanny saqsi lil mulgliett ta min kienet' jew mhux parti mil gvern? open your eyes and you'll see the light :)

twanny borg

Jun 24th 2012, 10:15

aqra sew!! ma qalx li huwa irreplaceable. tkunx insolenti lejn il-mejtin l-addollorata hemm nies li hallew gid kbir warajhom li ghadna ingawdu minnhom.

carmel cassar

Jun 24th 2012, 11:32

mirror mirror on the wall who ii the cleverest of them all

Franco Farrugia

Jun 24th 2012, 10:19

'I would take your job...' Qas int pruzuntuz, ukoll!

Johnny Xerri

Jun 24th 2012, 10:28

not as much as your humble self...

Paul Micallef

Jun 24th 2012, 10:50

@Franco and co.

I AM BEING SARCASTIC Ha ha ha, Well isma ta bejnietna ta, jekk jigi Gonzi u jofrili il-pozzizjoni ahjar milli itini FRIDGE jew WASHING machine ta, ha ha ha ha.

Jonathan Camilleri

Jun 24th 2012, 11:09

Mr. Micallef, he is not paid as much as CEOs of giant corporations, so I suggest you cool it off, even though everyone would like to have a €40k+ yearly salary of course, excluding bonuses and so on. In my opinion no politician is different, they just portray a different marketing campaign, you cannot be that naive!

Franco Farrugia

Jun 24th 2012, 15:47

@ Paul Micallef: And all together now: hahahaha, hahahaha, hahahaha...!

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