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JPO told Cachia Caruana last week his vote would not be personal

PN: Rebel MPs will ‘face political consequences’

Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando last week assured Richard Cachia Caruana he would never vote against him for “personal reasons”.

On Monday he voted with Labour on a motion calling for the resignation of Malta’s Permanent Representative to the EU, a move that left the Prime Minister stunned and the Nationalist Party warning of “consequences”.

But Dr Pullicino Orlando says Lawrence Gonzi should not have been surprised.

“I have been speaking about this till I was blue in the face for four years. I decided not to contest the next election because I have given up,” he said yesterday.

“You cannot have a civil servant targeting, sidelining and attacking valid MPs from the same party. The opposition motion spoke about respect towards Parliament. The people I mentioned are all parliamentarians, past or present.

“Criticising a person politically is one thing but to destroy or discard them simply because they do not bow down to you is unacceptable and ­anti-democratic.”

Dr Pullicino Orlando repeated his accusation that Mr Cachia Caruana, also a PN strategist, tried to bring him down after using him “manipulatively” during the election campaign.

Dr Pullicino Orlando said he had a courteous meeting with Mr Cachia Caruana at the backbencher’s house last week. “I assured him of one thing: I would never vote for personal reasons. I would never stoop to that level.”

Asked if this left Mr Cachia Caruana believing he was safe, Dr Pullicino Orlando said: “That was up to him.” But while Dr Pullicino Orlando insists his motivations were not personal, the PN believes otherwise.

A spokesman said MPs who vote against party lines would face “political consequences”, which would be discussed internally.

“The real point at issue is not the disciplinary consequences but the evident and manifest personal motivations that (on Monday) spurred MPs voting in favour of the motion,” the spokesman said.

While Dr Pullicino Orlando voted against the government, Nationalist MP Jesmond Mugliett chose to abstain.

Mr Mugliett also denied voting for personal reasons and distanced himself from Dr Pullicino Orlando’s arguments about MPs being sidelined by Mr Cachia Caruana. “I was not trying to make that point,” he said.

He abstained to “underline” that even if there was no legal obligation to discuss Malta’s Partnership for Peace membership in Parliament, this should have been done anyway because there was no electoral mandate.

“Such an important issue should have been brought for discussion to gain consensus. There was no need for this haste,” he said, adding he made a similar point in a debate on EU law.

Asked why Mr Cachia Caruana should be the one to resign for such a shortcoming, Mr Mugliett pointed out Mr Cachia Caruana claimed he heard of Malta’s membership only after the election.

“Well, we have Richard’s word for that but he was very close to the Prime Minister in those days. He was one of the strategists of the election.”

Asked if this meant he did not believe Mr Cachia Caruana, he said: “It raised a lot of questions.”

Mr Mugliett said he considered his vote for days but only took a decision late Monday evening.

Dr Pullicino Orlando yesterday continued to criticise Mr Cachia Caruana’s “closeness” to columnist Daphne Caruana Galizia.

He said it was unacceptable for high-ranking PN and government officials to “cavort” with her when she “disgustingly” derided Nationalist “icons” like the late President Emeritus Guido de Marco.

“It is precisely because of this situation that I voted like I did yesterday. Otherwise I would have been giving him a stamp of validity to this type of behaviour.”

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Joseph Attard

Jun 21st 2012, 10:18

Jista jkun li JPO bellaghhilna. Ghandu habta jbellaghha lin-nies dak JPO
. Lil PM kien tah l-impressjoni li ghandu grupp parlamentari maghqud. Imma wara nduna li kienet biss cajta ta' JPO

fred sammut

Jun 21st 2012, 11:51

let say you right....... so why...

HE mentioned Daphne : (

HE mentioned Holy Father JOE BORG

HE metioned LOU Bondi

and

did Franco Debono named RCC by NAME??

what about Mugliet ?

what about the slow punchair? - Arrigo

what about ix xewka f subghajgh iz zghjir il- Prim Ministru

Mr Angelo you are supporting a Guy who voted against 35,000 ppl majority in the referendoum......!!

Carmel (Nenu) Aquilina

Jun 21st 2012, 13:31

Sur William Caligari,

Nikkwota:Nenu intik parir, zomm ruhek il-boghod mill-politika, altrimenti tkun imzebblah!!

Hu dan li qed nghidlek bis-spirtu ta' habieb.

U jien fuq waħda biss jidhirl li għandi nirrispondik bħala ħabieb!

Interessa ruħek fil-politika, żomm ruħek qrib tal-politika, u permezz tal-politika għamel il-ġid lill għajrek, u mhux tkisser lill-għajrek, għax Alla hekk irid!

Kunn dejjem qrib Alla, għax għalkemm tiġi imżeblaħ mill-bnedmin, minn Alla ma tiġi imżeblaħ qatt u qatt, Sur William Caligari?

Iva jien għandi dritt ngħid li għandu jistħi minn minn ħajtu jwarrab lill-Alla li ħalqu u qed iżommu ħaj, Sur Caligari!


Edmond Micallef

Jun 20th 2012, 18:22

The same way Dom Mintoff was beatified by the all-new nationalist TV station's board of directors way back in 1998. Plain and simple.

As they say, what is good for the goose is good for the gender.

Charles Massa

Jun 20th 2012, 18:40

L istess gralhom tal PN. 2008 KIENU VITTMI, ISSA IQISUHOM TRADITURI

Mary Ann Borg

Jun 20th 2012, 22:16

B'differenza wahda Sur Massa. Qatt m'ghidna li huma Salvaturi !

William Caligari

Jun 20th 2012, 19:42

Nenu dawk il-valuri li qed isemmi, zgur mhux gej int biex niehu l-parir tieghek, illi naqra l-kitba tieghek
tidher li int direzzjoni wahda ghandek,li taqsam il-poplu,u din l-akbar wegggha li tista taghmel lil Alla.
Mill-paroli ghaddi ghall-fatti. Uza l-kitba tieghek ghall-gid tal-poplu t'Alla.
Fejn qrajt fil-kitba tieghek dwar min ghamel il-pensjonijiet, ic-Children Allowance, il-Bonus,beda jibni
l-iskejjel f'Malta u elf haga ohra li saru dawn l-ahhar 40 sena.Il-memorja tieghek tohdok dawn l-ahhar
snin biss.
M'intiex forsi sa' tghidli li dak li ssar f'1961/62 kien skond ir-rieda ta' Alla hux? Jekk trid tkompli taghzaq
bicca xoghol tieghek!!!! Ftit kulur iehor ccar f'ghajnejk ikun ta' gid ghalik

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 14:49

So for the indecency of others, the PM should go for an election? I believe the PM should do only one thing, call their bluff, and show them (through their own actions) what they really are and why the PM was always right!

Edward Mallia

Jun 20th 2012, 16:56

Your last sentence suggests you have a very low opinion of the common or garden intelligence of "both political parties". Your first sentence on the other hand is spot on. On his own saying, JPO went out of his way to persuade RCC that he (JPO) would never condition a vote with personal motives. Reminds me of the famous scene in A Man for All Seasons, where Richard Rich assured the judges that he had no personal motives for asserting that Thomas More had indeed revealed to him his opinion of The King's Statute. More asked Rich about the chain of office he was wearing; Rich replied that it denoted his appointment as Attorney General for Wales. More replied that if the whole world was not worth a man's soul, how much less Wales!

Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO

Jun 20th 2012, 17:52

@edward mallia
Rather than a low opinion of our political parties I have primarily a very low opinion of the typical Maltese electorate given that the parties must reflect the partisan and provincial egoistic aspirations of their supporters. Cynically but necessary our political parties put forward candidates which can best attract popular support rather than those capable of giving an intelligent contribution to the nation. Thank God there is a handful of MPs who are popular and yet still capable and intelligent. Democracy at its very best as one would say as it elects the type of MP the people desire and thus thoroughly deserve. As regards JPO I must admit a perverse admiration for his ability to abuse a rotten political system which cynically defended him and his sins when it suited.

Tonio Farrugia

Jun 20th 2012, 15:17

totally agree!

William Caligari

Jun 20th 2012, 16:51

Giov, 69 ONOREVOLI hemm.U int bhala Malti ghandu jkollok kull rispett lejhom.

Jekk il-memorja tieghek forsi qed tbatti nghidlek li dawn huma mqassma hekk;

PN............35
PL.............34

Giov DeMartino

Jun 20th 2012, 18:39

@MR Caligari. Jiddispjacini imma ma fhimt xejn.

Joseph Attard

Jun 21st 2012, 10:03

Demartino taf li l-parlament fih 69 mhux 65?

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:22

You did not believe JPO - you fell for the GonziPN spin. You are admitting that GonziPN fooled you.

Giov DeMartino

Jun 20th 2012, 15:02

Why can't he? Because of the shameful tactics of some of his MP's? When Mintoff did what he did in 1998, did you blame him or his PM?

Giov DeMartino

Jun 20th 2012, 16:09

Waqajt fil-muta?

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:23

DeMartino@ when Mintoff did what he did in 1998, Dr Alfred Sant did the honourable thing and called an election. He did not turn parliament into a tool to keep him in power.

Giov DeMartino

Jun 21st 2012, 08:13

Camilleri I did not ask you, but still since you rushed in like the proverbial fool, will you pl answer my question? When the great saviour did what he did who was to blame for the problem created? Mintoff or Sant? That is the question.

Michael Seychell

Jun 20th 2012, 16:31

Mr Victor Vella have you already forgotten that your leader was called by Dr. Adrian Vassallo a dictator and a comunist for stating that t LP gave a free vote on Divorce, but laterDr. Vasdsallo was castigated for voting no to divorce.

Are you aware that an ex Labour M.P. - if I am not mistaken he was also a Minister, was fined Lm4000.00 - over 9000.00Euro because he arrived late in Parliament and he missed voting with the Party?

The answer I expect from you is that Dr. Vasslo retracted what he said about Joe Muscat, and the other case happened years ago - my answer to that will be "il-Lupu taqtalu denbu Lupu jibqa".

Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta

Edward Mallia

Jun 20th 2012, 17:09

You put the situation very clearly. However your excusing "the party" for covering up for JPO so as not to lose the election is sheer hypocrisy. "The party" is also bound by rules of common decency. Can I ask what is or was your view of the 1981 gerrymandering clearly designed to enable "the (other) party" to win the election? In this matter "the party" is only reaping the whirlwind it sowed in the the 2008 election. And please remember that after winning the election by helping JPO, people finished up in court over the Mistra affair: two have been acquitted, the third is still there. The real culprits were never indicted.

George Calleja

Jun 20th 2012, 15:52

Min hu machiavellan ma jurix kif se jahdem. Min hu arroganti ,kif jidhru hafna ucuh fil-ritratti u fuq it-TV jaghmluha tal-'bully'. Ghax jahsbu li huma aqwa minn kulhadd. Imn'alla li JPO hu membru parlamentari -suppost- nazzjonalist...daqshekk nghid. M'nalla ukoll li mhux se johrog ghall-elezzjoni. L-ebda partit ma jrid nies bhalu!!

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:26

Dr Cutajar, just admit that GonziPN is finished. There are too many rebels in that party. And its all the fault of a weak rudderless leader. Admit it.

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 13:59


"But how respectable is the PN government, when after having imposed the highest W & E bills in history, GonziPN gave himself, the ministers and parliamentary secretaries
an impressive €500 a week?"

PL knew about the increment and indeed you could see the many sad faces behind JPO when he took the stance he took!! Water and electricity bills have increased because unlike a stanch believe of PL, MALTA IS PART OF THE WORLD!! If oil prices increase it is obvious that electricity bills will go up.


"How respectable is a government which is hell bound to remain in power at all costs when a clear message is coming across from all quarters"

The government has not lost a single vote of confidence. It seems JPO enjoys the support of Joseph Muscat and PL but PL and Joseph Muscat do not enjoy the support of JPO ... says a lot of who used who in the current situation.


"At the end of the day if GonziPN thinks he is the government of the century after having creating 20,000 jobs and we are living in the Garden of Eden under his helm why is he afraid to call an election?"

Again, just see some other news then just ONE NEWS and you will see how Malta is in far better situation then other countries around us! Considering the fact that we are an island with little to no resources this is a BIG show from the current government. All we had from the opposition is JUST WORDS and NO FACTS!!


"Lastly why are the PN MPs disgruntled?"

We all know why, they wanted to become/remain ministers!"



Now answer this little question of mine (if you manage to remain on the subject something always very hard for those who support PL) ... who voted with who? JPO voted with PL or PL voted with JPO?? Who has gained anything?? I do not think Joseph Muscat gained anything consider the fact that the front page of this newspaper failed to remember of his or his party existence today!! JPO managed to turn all attention on him and making everyone forget that in Malta we have an opposition!!!


Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:27

Maybe more jobs at taxpayers expense? That so far has been Lawrence Gonzi's solution.

William Caligari

Jun 20th 2012, 13:35

Nenu, fejn kont fl-1962?
La semmejt lill Alla, taf li 51000 (51 elf ) persuna gew ikkundannati ghall-infern ghall-xejn,semplicetament
ghaliex ivvotaw lil Mintoff.!!!
Mhux ahjar inhallu l'Alla il-boghod, u specjalment int Nenu inhallu lil Hallieq jiggudika lil kulhadd kif
jaf HU. fejn anki JARA l-futur HU.

M Grima

Jun 20th 2012, 13:48

Dawn id-domandi u ohrajn bhalhom saqsiehom lill JPO, Mugliett u Franco Debono Nenu!! Hekk jew hekk dawn mill l-istess merhal tieghek gejjin Nenu!!!

Sewwa qed tghid lill poplu Malti u Ghawdxi biex joqghod attent mill qerq politiku ta Gonzi u shabu. Bil haqq dan Richard lahaq xi kardinal biex tighidlu Eccelenza. Hawwadni ha nifmek!!

Michael Seychell

Jun 20th 2012, 17:05

Sur M. Grima - Hija l-uzanza normali ghalmenu fil-pajjizi Ewropej, li Ambaxxatur jigi indirizzzat 'Eccellenza', bhall ma Membru Parlamentari jissejah 'Onorevoli'.

Habib tieghi li konna kollegi fuq ix-xoghol u li kien serva ta' Ambaxxatur taht il-Gvern tal-Labour, kont iltqajt mieghu snin twal minn meta ma kienx ghadu Ambaxxatur, u ghax sejjahtlu b'ismhu kien kisirni wahda nobis - u ghalkemm ma inhix cert jekk ex-Ambaxxatur jibqax igorr id-dritt li jissejjah 'Eccelenza' anke meta jkun spicca mill-kariga, qbadt u skuzajt ruhi.

La semmejt it-titolu tal-Membri Parlamentari jkolli nammetti li filwaqt li hafna minn dawn jisthoqqilhom it-titolu ta Onorevoli, hemm uhud minnhom li la huma Onorevloi u wisq inqas Onorabbli - u minn jigih il-Kappell jew iz-Zarbun ha jilbsu!

Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta

Carmel (Nenu) Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 17:49

@Sur William Caligari,

Minn ħalla lill Alla il-bogħod minnu saħta ġabb fuqu, Sur Caligari!

Minn għajr Alla il-kollu magħna ma nagħmlu xejn, lanqas nifs ma nieħdu, Sur Caligari!

Jekk mu tkunx qrib Alla f’kull mument u f’kull okkażżjoni, qrib minn tried tkun, Sur Caligari?

Istħi Sur Caligari titkellem hekk fuq il-preżenza ta’ Alla fill ħajja ta’ kuljum tagħna ċ-ċittadini Maltin u Għawdxin!

Sur Caligari jien inteliġenti biżżejjed biex ma nieħux il-parir tieghek u inħalli lill-Alla bogħod minni, anzi jien inħeġġeġ l-ewwel wieħed lilhek biex ma Alla ma tiċċajtax, u biex tkun verament inteliġenti, u ma dan Alla trid iżżom l-akbar ħbiberija u kuntatt il-ħin kollu!

Lill Alla irringrazjaħ f’kull Ħin u f’ kull mument, Sur Caligari, u mhux iżżom il-bogħod minnu!

@Sur M. Grima,

Dawk il-mistoqsijiet jien għamiltom lill-poplu Malti u Għawdxi kollu, inklużi l-membri kollha tal-parlament , għax il-poplu Malti u Għawdxi, bil-vot tiegħu jtella lill-parlamentari tagħna fil-parlament!

U allura il-poplu Malti u Għawdxi kollu jinħtieġ li jagħmel dawn il-mistoqsijiet lilu innifsu, u jara lill minn verament jixraqlu li jiġi f’dat li jirrappreżentaħ fil-parlament, Sur Grima!

Jien anzi nkompli nistaqsi ukoll lill Unions Maltin, għax bħall ma’ sar dan kollu ma’ l-Ambaxxatur Richard Cachia Caruana jista jiġri ma’ kull-ħaddiem u ċittadin Malti!

Il-Unions ser jagħmlu fuq dan kolu li ġara lill dan il-ħaddiem proffessjonali?

Iva Poplu Malti u Għawdxi għandek kull dritt li tkun taf lill minn ser tivvota biex jirrappreżentak fil-parlament, u dak li ma hux ġentlom m’għandekx tavdaħ bit-tmexxija ta’ pajjiżek u tal-valuri li tħaddan!

Iva poplu Malti u Għawdxi għandek raġun tinkwieta, għax mhux affarijiet li jiġru f’demokrazija!

Mela allura ħsiebek hemm poplu Malti u Għawdxi, għax dak li dawn in-nies għamlu lill-Ambaxxatur Richard Cachia Caruana, jidher li ma jiddejqu xejn li jagħmlu l-istess ma kull ċittadin Malti u Għawdxi, Laborist jew Nazzjonalist li xi darba ma jaqbilx magħhom!

John Zammit

Jun 20th 2012, 21:43

Mr Seychell Can you please Name this Person if he was a partner when you worked a the Dry Docks ??

M Grima

Jun 20th 2012, 13:50

The only joke is your beloved PN.

Michael Seychell

Jun 20th 2012, 17:57

Mr. J. Brincat

Do you think that RCC just went and knocked at Jeffrey's Villa to beg him to vote against the MLP motion - which according to Dr. G. Vella was presented to Parliament at the appropriate time for the Party, whilst ignoring Malta's real interest - or was it the other way round and it was Jeffry who invited RCC at his Villa?

Michael Seychell Tal-Pieta

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 12:51

What is good for our country is to have a respectable opposition but unfortunately PL and it's leadership are light years away from understand the word "respectable" ... again, one more time, Joseph Muscat has failed PL and its supporters by having the party BEING USED by a - what you admittedly call them - disgruntled MP for their personal wars!!

JPO is in the news not PL ... For the MEDIA (apart for PL's one which lives in a fantasy world of its own) this is a win for JPO not PL or Joseph Muscat ... how do you feel about that achievement j brincat!!?

P. Zammit

Jun 20th 2012, 13:02

@J.Brincat .... your party played the cat and mouse game for two years in 1996... so please be patient in opposition for a few more months.

A Spiteri

Jun 20th 2012, 14:25

I have read this morning the cat & mouse thing, I guess you and the editor weren't even born or you don't like to let the people remember how we were under the PL administrion. Here is the link FYI

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120205/letters/The-day-the-Times-building-was-burnt-down.405367

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:30

You seem to forget that "he played the farce all the way" on instructions by Lawrence Gonzi to follow closely what he was told to do by RCC!!

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 12:55

"he made his points clear and voted according to his conscience"

... did you listen to his speech in parliament?

Mario Scicluna

Jun 20th 2012, 11:19

Mela l-kuxjenza tal PN biss ghandhom?? Jew dan xi dritt divin iehor taghkhom ukoll? Bhallikieku qisna ser imorru lura fis-snin 60 li tal-PN u l-Knisja kellhom ruh u min jivvota kontra kien jinghata dnub mejjet u imsejjah xitan u dritt l-infern! Ipokresija grassa! Possibli ghadkhom ma tghallimtux u hadtu lezzjoni wara li kien il poplu li ried id-dhiul tad-Divorzju bhala dritt civili f'Malta? Possibli ghadkhom ma tistghux tnizzluwha fi grizmejkhom, anke wara li ghadda Referendum u Gonzi ivvota kontra!!!!?

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 11:44

@Mario Scicluna
Carmel Muscat is just showing another self serving action done by JPO where it was not JPO aiding PL but rather having PL and Joseph Muscat work for JPO!!

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 11:42

In parliament one expects MP to represent the people not their personal agenda. This is another failure for Joseph Muscat and PL who have been used by some MPs to turn parliament into a tool of revenge!! I wonder if Joseph Muscat will ever tell us how it feels to be used and thrown away!! I wonder if Joseph Muscat has the courage to face reality and realize that his party and himself have been used and the only honorable thing left to do is to really rid parliament from self serving elements like the ones we currently have!!

R. Cilia

Jun 20th 2012, 15:10

In parliament one expects MP to represent the people not their personal agenda

Joseph Aquilina, that's exactly what Gonzi did not do when he voted against divorce.

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 10:54

name them ...

Mr Joseph Apap

Jun 20th 2012, 11:06

Kieku veru riedu setghu ghamlu bhal ma ghamel JPO u Mugliett
Nemmen biss dak li nara
Il Partit Nazzjonalista ma jaghmilx sarima ma halq hadd

u b'hekk kulhadd seghta jivvota kif ried hu

Kevin Wain

Jun 20th 2012, 11:43

Mr. Privitera. The fact that JPO refuses to mention or clarifying his point on who these parliamentarians are is a case in point that he could be failing to say the truth or he might be, on this I don't know. I will not declare my opinion on this. Let me make myself clear: by my very nature I am liberal, I have supported the introduction of divorce in Malta (as JPO did) and, rallied for joining the EU (I recall that you were against this as was your leader back then - I was at Xarabank when JM said that he is proud to be a social democrat and against EU membership). I have supported what JPO said albeit I had and still have my reservations on his sincerity (judging from what happend in the last election). The funny thing is that your party makes heroes out of previous villans, that is somewhat amusing. I remember the unequivocal attacks by MLP now PL i.e. Dr. Sant on John Dalli. He is now treated as a hero by the party that initially made the accusations i.e. because he has fallen foul of the PN (I remember an interview of Mr. Dalli on Inkontri in which he was treat as a victim of PN). Now is JPO your hero, Mr. Privitera. Do you not remember the attacks in the 2008 elections on the Mistra issue? He was not honest back then, is he honest now on the 10 parliamentarian, because it favours your party? Mr. Privitera, how can I take your party serious when their moral ground is so low?

rita Farrugia

Jun 20th 2012, 12:10

Kemm temmnu fejn trid lil JPO. Meta beda jinsulta lill - leader Alfred Sant fuq il-kaz tal-Mistra qabel l-ahhar elezzjoni hekk kont tirraguna sur Eddy ?

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 12:45

Eddy ... don't have the name ... just repeated one more time what was said on PL propaganda media!!

P. Zammit

Jun 20th 2012, 13:05

@E.Privitera ... u bl-istess ragunar xi tghid fuq id-deputati tal PL li xtaqu jivvutaw kontra l-mozzjoni ?

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 10:30

Don't make me laugh! Did you even hear JPO speech in parliament? Isn't it obvious that JPO has changed sides and his actions are only self serving and nothing else!! You think he cares about you or anyone else. All he cares about is that he has a position after the next election. Hope PL (if ever in government) will not play his game directly or indirectly!!!

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 20th 2012, 10:32

I think an election is more beneficial to PN then to PL at this moment! It is time to clean the party from elements like JPO who have turned parliament into a self serving institution from where they can throw insults and push their own agenda!!

joe vella

Jun 20th 2012, 10:47

you may be right, but NOBODY in the PN called him PRIMA DONNA during the mistra saga
I am the first to believe that jpo was not being truthful in what he said and his motives were far different from what he stated, that is why GonziPN never made him a minister- however RCC, Gonzi and joe saliba made a meal out of the situation that presented itself, JPO was made into a PRIMA DONNA, got a thick serving of votes that got him elected from 2 districts, but was then discarded like the proverbial squeezed lemon!
Now he is getting his payback, and nobody can convince me it is not personal, whether parliament should be used in this way or not is now up to the electorate, - what happened during the last election and the consequences over the past 4 years should serve as an eyeopener for the new electorate

Alfred Vassallo

Jun 20th 2012, 11:23

Angelo propju ghalhekk ma tmurx il qorti (as much as one wishes to) ghax ma tkunx tista (issa il ragunijiet jistu ikunu diversi ez. nies ma jkunux irridu jidru, jew jibzu jixdu ghax jigu vittimizatti, u propju ghawn ghanda tithol il ''whistle blower act) tipruvom libbirament.

George Azzopardi

Jun 20th 2012, 11:08

yes most of us are intelligent enough to hear from the many PN supporters who are repeating what JPO has said. RCC was too big for his boots!

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:34

Dr Saliba, how would you know whar RCC does in the backround, in the back room where only MPs are allowed? You are just repeating a blogger's idea - show us where JPO insulted our intelligence by disproving any of his allegations.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jun 20th 2012, 19:22

@ Andrew Camilleri, today at 17:34.

I reach conclusions based on facts not on your speculation on what may have occurred in the "background" and in "back rooms". In this case I base myself on the recorded speech of JPO in parliament and his crude attempt later to camouflage it. That is were my intelligence comes in and where I protest that JPO is insulting it. It does not follow that the he is also insulting your intelligence.

do not need to imagine and create a background for RCC's activities. I need only read JPO's statement in parliament which is full of personal animosity and allegations against DCG which she denies and for which she is taking him to court.

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:37

Of course JPO as manipulated. He was used by GonziPn not only not to lose votes but to increase its votes by obtaining sympathy for someone who did not deserve it. Now its payback time for GonziPN. Maybe they will learn the lesson not insult our intelligence. I was so furious at the obvious manipulation - and at the expense of our natural environment - that for the first time in my 40 years of voting, I did not vote for anyone.

L. Chircop

Jun 20th 2012, 13:15

Mr Cini. First of All we the people do not care about your beloved party !!! All we care about is that the Country goes into a better situation. And Secondly the one who is not doing any good to the country is your Beloved GonziPN by clinging by all possible means to power.

Eddy Privitera

Jun 20th 2012, 10:38

Angelo Vassallo: min huma dawk " chucked out from the PN??? Mela ithom tistghi titfghu il-barra lil xi hadd fis-sitwazzjoni imweghra li qeghdin ?? DAQS KEMM TISTGHU TIEHDU XI PASSI KONTRA JPO ; MUGLIETT U FRANCO DEBONO.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 20th 2012, 17:40

None at all. No one betrayed anyone. if anything, GonziPN - of which you so happily form a part - betrayed our environment in order to win an election. You, sir, are the last person I thought would enter this fray when it was so obvious that GonziPN was defending JPO's Mistra plans.

Alfred Vassallo

Jun 20th 2012, 09:48

Angelo kultant ma tkunx tista tiprova dak kollu li trid ghal diversi ragunijiet IMMA ma fisirx li certu affarijiet ma kunhux vera, imma sempliciment ma tkunx tista tipruvom, ghalura.......

A Cuschieri

Jun 20th 2012, 10:32

Alfred, jekk ma tistax tipprova dak li qed tghid, min qed jisimghek ma jista qatt ikun cert li qed tghid il-verita.

Issa jekk ha noqghodu ninhbew wara subghajna mod iehor. Pero, l-istatement tieghek ifakkarni fi kliem Alfred Sant meta qal "jekk titfa t-tajn, xi ftit minnhu jehel" ...

Alfred Vassallo

Jun 20th 2012, 09:44

well you see what RCC does is nothing personal to anyone, none at all, except you just happen to be a liability to him. That's all. Nothing personal at all old boy.

Fran Abela

Jun 20th 2012, 13:58

Alfred Vassallo - so now we are judging people by what they might or might not have done to us ? Well, well, well if I did that personally I would have a long long list, but I am not one to remember past hurts and have since grown up to deal with these type of problems myself. If I do not agree with my employer, or colleagues I do not just sit back and complain but go out and find another job. My friend, in life you are alone, and if you want to get ahead and move on, you must have the necessary stamina and confidence in yourself to move ahead to brighter pastures.

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