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Debono will continue to be member of PN group - whip

Franco Debono (back) Clyde Puli and Mario de Marco. Picture - Chris Sant Fournier.

Franco Debono (back) Clyde Puli and Mario de Marco. Picture - Chris Sant Fournier.

Franco Debono was and will continue to be a member of the Nationalist parliamentary group, group whip David Agius said this morning.

Speaking on TVAM, he said that contacts had been held between the PN and Dr Debono over the weekend - he had personally spoken to him about this evening's vote of confidence.

Dr Debono said he had spoken to him about the significance of this evening's vote and they had also discussed the anger expressed by some members of the group in the wake of last Wednesday's vote, when Dr Debono backed an opposition no-confidence vote in Home Affairs Minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici, forcing his resignation.

Mr Agius said he could not reveal what Dr Debono told him, although he understood the anger of some members of the group.

Dr Debono has said he will not vote against the government tonight, but the Prime Minister has insisted that he wants a clear, unconditional vote in order for the government to continue to serve.  

“I want a clear vote to know the government has the majority to permit it to move ahead with stability,” Dr Gonzi told The Sunday Times in an interview. ( http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120603/interview/Gonzi-calling-an-election-would-be-the-easy-way-out.422434 )

The backbencher told the newspaper that he is likely to support the government and keep supporting it throughout the legislature, but only as long as certain reforms are implemented. 

Political observers said yesterday the Prime Minister was keeping his options open and could call an early election if Dr Debono abstains, even though the government could carry on from a constitutional point of view. 

Environment and Tourism Minister Mario de Marco said Dr Debono had a lot to answer for and must assume responsibility for his actions, as voting on such a motion was an insult to those who suffered at the hands of the police when Labour was in government.

Dr de Marco also had a message for those who are dealing with Dr Debono: “We must keep in line with the politics of persuasion and not the politics of appeasement.”

MP Charlò Bonnici, however, was one of those in favour of severing relations. He said: “Franco Debono crossed a red line he should never have crossed. We cannot be held hostage by one person. We cannot keep negotiating with him.”

His words echo those of his colleague Beppe Fenech Adami who has already publicly declared Dr Debono to have “burnt all bridges” with the party.

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Andy Farrugia

Jun 4th 2012, 18:00

Are you acting as some kind of apologist for "variante", by any chance?

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 4th 2012, 18:41

No, I am showing up the hypocrisy of GonziPN. Are you acting as some kind of apologist for "GonziPN", by any chance?

Andy Farrugia

Jun 4th 2012, 20:47

Hahahaha! mr camilleri, you'll have to do better than that, much better than that, to embarrass me. On the other hand, you, well......sorpassiamo, e meglio!

George Calleja

Jun 4th 2012, 16:05

Biex ipaxxikom. Mela le!!!!

Charles Muscat

Jun 5th 2012, 01:01

By now Malta would have been in a mess.

Eddy Privitera

Jun 5th 2012, 20:40

George, mela taf li kontu titilfuha , hux ????????

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jun 4th 2012, 14:04

Most families have a Prodigal Son and not all of them return, humble and contrite, to the family fold.

Franco Farrugia

Jun 4th 2012, 15:10

@ F Saliba: The PN is not a family.

George Azzopardi

Jun 4th 2012, 15:10

@Francis Saliba M.D .. difference is that unlike Prodigal Son, coming next election GonziPN will not accept Dr.Debono back!!

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jun 4th 2012, 20:15

@ George Azzopardi, today at 15:10,

You are presuming that Dr Franco Debono would have the brazen cheek to be seek candidature under a Nationalist Party leader under whom he boasted that he will not serve.

I do not exclude that you may be right. In his case the sky is the limit for brashness.

George Azzopardi

Jun 5th 2012, 09:18

@Francis Saliba M.D .. but let's be honest now .. so if I am presuming right, would PN accept him back?

I wouldn't .. but then I would have the guts or be gentleman enough to tell him the terms and set him straight
now!!!

Coming next elections, I'm dead sure that he would be kicked out in the street by PN and one can understand this after what he's done!

Then again, both party's game is so obvious that you have to be naive not to realize this!

Francis Saliba M.D.

Jun 5th 2012, 15:44

@ George Azzopard today at 09:18.

Honesty does not come into it at all and prophesying the future is an idle occupation in politics where even a week could be a very, very long time with unforseen consequences. Bridges are crossed when one comes to them, not a mile beforehand.

I am not "dead sure" about anything happening in the future. It is my philosophy that only fools are certain, the wise have modifiable opinions.

My opinion, for what it is worth, is that Dr Franco Debono would not have the gall to seek candidature under the present NP leadership or any other probable leader and that no political party existing today would take the risk of accepting him as a candidate because loyalty would be a prime consideration

I repeat; that is my opinion today, not my prophecy for tomorrow. I would not "have the guts" (temerity is the word I prefer) to threaten him with "terms" and conditions before the list of candidates is being drawn up and even before he submits a request to be put on that list.

Evarist Saliba

Jun 4th 2012, 12:26

You had better brush up your English, or stop giving your own meaning to well-established words.

BLACKMAIL is when a person threatens that unless he obtains what he is demanding he
will retaliate by hurting the person who does not give in to his demands.

That is what Franco Debono has been doing for quite some time.

It is quite different from asking for reforms.

Geoffrey Farrugia

Jun 4th 2012, 14:06

Debono is not just asking for reforms. He is blackmailing his own party with the one seat majority it has. His requests are then tied to his own personal agenda that bests suits his personal career. Whilst I agree that criticism should be allowed in any party, Debono is bullying his way through acting like a 5 year old stamping his feet when he doesnt get what he wants.

The only mistake PN is doing is letting Debono play these games and run the show. PN is losing credibility fast and the sooner an election is called the better for everyone. PN leaders have to admit that huge mistakes were done in the past when choosing candidates.

Emanuel Curmi

Jun 4th 2012, 14:32

@Mr. Saliba. I'm glad I've hit a cord. Unfortunately ‘blackmail’ and ‘being held hostage’ are being used too liberally for Mr. Franco Debono’s course of action and yet you seem to overlook that that it is within his democratic right to act and vote according to his own convictions. I’m sure you still recall how we, as children, were sometimes ‘blackmailed’ by our parents to our ensure proper behavior or to make us consume our fair share of healthy and yet not so appetizing fare so blackmail may serve a purpose afterall. The BLACKMAIL, that you are going to great pains to explain, is actually illegal and yet nobody would dream saying thatwhat Mr. Debono is doing, is actually illegally. What is happening at present is not such a unique situation (Malta, maybe being the exception) and is actually the norm in other democratic governments so a patronizing tone is hardly going to keep me or anybody else from expressing the obvious.

Evarist Saliba

Jun 4th 2012, 16:45

@ Emanuel Curmi @ 14.32 folow

BLACKMAIL remains blackmail, irrespective of what others do in politics abroad, or whether the letter of the law is broken.

God forbid that should your favourite political party come to power it will follow your principles.

But come to think of it, isn't that how Mintoff forced the inclusion of the neutrality on the basis of non-alignment article in the Constitution?

Isn't that how the shareholders of the National Bank were forced to give up their shares?

The list goes on and on. If that is how you want Malta to be governed you are welcome to it. I shall have none of it.

Emanuel Curmi

Jun 4th 2012, 17:39

@Mr. Evarist Saliba. Again you are jumping to overhasty conclusions. Criticizing the PN’s lack of foresight and their role in this self afflicted problem, does not necessarily stamp me, as a PL support. In fact, I have even mentioned that I am not particularly impressed with the opposition’s agenda since it lacks substance and is wholly opportunistic. Your lop sided and restricted view of local politics actually mirrors the PN’s model of party politics which hinders dialogue and severely restricts the voicing of different opinions. Apart from calling FD a blackmailer, can’t you, at least, tell us, what is fundamentally wrong with Dr. Debono’s proposals. Are these so refreshingly different and yet so vital to reforming our political doctrine that one is forced to attack the person rather than his ideas? My favourite political party, you ask? It doesn’t exist but it would be nice to have one primarily focussed on the electorate’s interests for a change, & devoid of MPs on a mega ego trip.

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 4th 2012, 18:45

I am surprised that a supposedly intelligent man like Mr Saliba falls into the usual parochial trap of stamping anyone who dares to criticise GonziPN as a labourite. I have never voted for labour in my life and probably never will. But I can see things as they are and there is a lot to criticise in GonziPN - even the very nomenclature 'GonziPN' sends a shiver down my spine (so remiscent of dictarors taking over the party and creating a cult status for themselves).

Mr Andrew Camilleri

Jun 4th 2012, 17:10

Best contribution to date! I agree perfectly with you.

victor bonello

Jun 4th 2012, 11:09

last Friday " Angus Black" wrote;
The leaves on a fruit tree which has not been pruned for 30 years may look green and healthy but the absence of edible fruit tells the tale.
First of all it is the branches and not the leaves that are pruned as only young branches will yield fruit.. but then, is this not what is happening to the PN? I remember a different PN with nostalgia.. Would maybe a new leader like Tonio Borg not give the PN a breath of fresh air?

Edward Mallia

Jun 4th 2012, 09:18

Correct Mr. Attard. But it seems that the PN did not "accept" the resignation, not by a clear reply to that effect but by simply ignoring Debono's letter, as far as I know. This matter of resignation and non-resignation simply highlights the "court jester" antics of Franco Debono and Dr. Gonzi, and now the PN whip David Agius. Agree with them or not, at least Charlot Bonnici and Beppe Fenech Adami spoke out quite unequivocally, even if their own party leader cannot escape (presumably unintended) "friendly fire" from their cannonade.

Fenech MD

Jun 4th 2012, 09:46

Yes you're right. But the resignation was never accepted, unlike the resignation of Dr Carm Mifsud Bonnici from Minister.

I can't see how Dr Debono can work with the PN now that he has declared war against one of the finest gentleman of Malta. Unlike him (Dr Debono), Dr Mifsud Bonnici is a very respected member of Parliament.

The only way to go for Dr Debono is to resign from Parliament now. He can go neither here nor there.


Paul Giordimaina

Jun 4th 2012, 10:25

Thats your wish Vic

john muscat

Jun 4th 2012, 09:28

Greece is holding general election on the 17th. instant, in the middle of the tourist season, which makes no difference. All we need is a reliable govt. who should take care of govt. business not party business.

Alfred Bugeja

Jun 4th 2012, 10:04

Inquiries are conducted by inquiring magistrates, and there is one currently under way in the Stephen Spiteri case. It is the Magistrate who decides who she needs to talk to and when. This is an investigation, not an exercise in public relations and the opposition will eventually regret making a political issue out of it. Or are you suggesting that the magistrate is lying?

Ray Bonello

Jun 4th 2012, 10:07

int bis-serjeta? what pressure? Almost everyone in the PN group is bending backwards to appease Franco and ensure that they do not irk him in any way just in case......

A Trapani

Jun 4th 2012, 09:17

....... how can some still be so naive not to realize that what Debono is really after is his obsession to be popular and powerful at the detriment of anyone. How can there still be people around not noticing that this guy is wasting the parliament's (people's) time on his personal agendas? If he was wise enough as you say, he should have been patient, wait a few months and contest the upcoming elections and not threaten his own government, and his own future within his party this way. I certainly do not call people like him wise.... you don't need to be wise to realise that you can use your vote to threaten parliament and your own party when the same party has a 1 seat majority.

Alfred Vassallo

Jun 4th 2012, 09:43

''There are thousands of voters out there who have already realised the political dishonesty and opportunistic manner of the opposition'' .
And there thousand of voters out there eager to get rid of this corrupt government and who will not forget the 500 Euros which this government gave himself whilst giving a pittance to the workers and promising one thing during election time and doing the opposite when in government. Ask the man in the street.

John Scerri

Jun 4th 2012, 11:02

Dear Alfred ask the man in the street and the woman in the street who saveguarded their jobs during these past 4 years when times were bad and certain companies were on the verge of closing down.

Ask the man in the street.

Yes the man in the street knows well enough who promises and has nothing to offer but words, words words. substance is '0' ZERO

victor bonello

Jun 4th 2012, 12:14

@ Joseph Scerri; thoe men in the streets are also fed up with tales of corruption, uncontrollable spending and CIA tactics to tacit opposition.
They are fed up with a few accumulating the country's wealth while the masses accumulate the debts.
They are fed up being treated like idiots by arrogant politicians who believe they own the country inheriting this right because their father, uncle or grandfather ruled it as a politician before them.
They are fed up because these politicians have forgotten it is us the little people in the street that pay for their salaries and so they should be there to work for us and be accountable to us for their doings or misdoings.
The Pn runts about the past atrocities performed by the MLP.. yet they have never in 25 years taken anyone to court over them.. why? to many dark areas for me..sorry!

Joseph Cauchi Senior

Jun 4th 2012, 12:52

@ Alfred Vassallo,

So, you are calling this government ‘corrupt’?

“Corruption” is a very strong word to use

Don’t you know that saying such words could land one into trouble?

If you have proof of any corruption, then why don’t you do the real thing by reporting it to the Police Commissioner for action?

It is so easy to sling mud, isn’t it?

But perhaps this is the only way that most PL apologists can play!

JC.

Alfred Vassallo

Jun 4th 2012, 15:37

@Joseph Cauchi Senior

Corruption can take many forms. One of them is to be 'Dishonest' and do you call a government who gave himself 600E/brought down to 500 E whilst giving a meagre amount to the workers Honest?

Even the Government admitted that its hurt was felt across the whole strata of the workers.

So I am not throwing mud at anyone. I am simply stating a fact.

But you know what; you people try to intimidate others by your proverbial baw baw.

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