PM interview on political developments tomorrow

Joe Tabone

Jun 2nd 2012, 22:16

Vince, no need to look it up. Dr Gonzi was elected on a 5 year mandate, due to expire in March 2013. I fully agree, let democracy take its course and call elections when due.
May I remind you that the PN never governed against the will of the people. Ask Dear Joseph what happened in 1981 when the Labour government changed the districts to give a perverse result!

A Trapani

Jun 2nd 2012, 22:45

Questions for Victor....
1. Are you sure its the right time to hold an election?
2. Do you really think that the summer/tourist season, during Euro 2012 and all the upcoming social events is ideal time for an election?
3. Do you honestly believe that that is the only solution the country needs at this point in time?

.... many tend to disagree with you... besides, as you say, Gonzi and every other minister were democratically elected and are there at OUR pleasure to serve us according to the constitution for 5 years.... no need to look up anything, anywhere. You just need to have some more patience and soon, we will all have the LP's so desired elections and as always happened in the recent past (except for the 80s), a new government will be democratically elected.

M.Dolores Vassallo

Jun 3rd 2012, 06:54

Ghallxejn toqodu tejdulu biex jamghel Elezzjoni ghax jibza qieghed miskien.

David John

Jun 3rd 2012, 07:45

Sur Bezzina,

Sejjer zbal, Malta ma ghadiex pajjiz demokratiku ghax taht dittatur qeghdin. Gonzi jaf li hafna mil-poplu mhux kuntent, allura ghax ma jsejjahx ghal elezjoni ha jkun jaf fejn qieghed u inehhi din innuqas ta' stabilita. Il-gvern demokratiku jimxi skond ir-rieda tal-poplu u mhux ta' persuna wahda jew klikka.

J. Mifsud

Jun 3rd 2012, 09:36

Joe Tabone the present government is actually governing against the will of the. The PN polled 1580 votes more than the MLP, so they might have more right to govern than the MLP, but they are still ignoring the 5443 voters who wanted neither the PN nor the MLP. While the PN polled143468 votes, the MLP polled 141888 votes and the other parties together polled 5443 votes. Therefore 147331 voted against Gonzi PN.
The perverse result is occuring over and over again even under the PN government. In 1996 MLP polled 7633 votes more than the PN yet they elected 3 MPs less than the PN, and in 2008 the PN polled 1580 votes more than the MLP and yet MLP elected 3 MPs more than the PN. If there was any gerrymandering in 1982 there was gerrymandering as well in 1996 and 2008. The same perverse results occured in the UK in the 80s but noone said there was gerrymandering when Magret Tatcher was elected with a minority of votes.

John Attard

Jun 2nd 2012, 20:46

No deal mate....why should he resort to that. He s taken a lesson from Alfred Sant

Joe Tabone

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:36

A lifelong Nationalist............very convincing. Why did you mention 1976 and not 1971?

Mark Cassar

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:55

For all the rhetoric the problem is that a large part of the government is not results orientated. There are those that do not even attempt to achieve results.

Luciano Pace Parascandalo

Jun 2nd 2012, 21:24

funny, a lifelong nationalist who bases his views entirely on One TV talk.....is One all you watch sir?

C Busuttil

Jun 2nd 2012, 21:40

@Joe Tabone
Tghid mhux ha tghalliemni int kif tkun nazzjonalist, meta kulhadd kien jisthi jghid li huwa nazzjonalist l-familja tieghi kienet u baqghet nazzjonalista anke akkost li riedu joqtluna bil-guh. Zmien mintoff kien peanuts hdejn dak li ghaddejna minnu imma dak kien il-bierah u jien qed nghix illum, ma nistax nibqa nitfa rasi fir-ramel u ma narax dak li ghaddej fil-pajjiz.
Semmejt l-1976 ghax wara dik it-telfa l-partit induna li kien bzonn ta' bidla u mhux biss fil-leadership imma li riedna nersqu lejn il-haddiem ghax imkellha qatt ma konna ha naraw il-gvern, kif kienet opinjoni ta' bosta partitarji nazzjonalisti fostom jien. Is-sixties kienu storja apparti tlajna ghax kien hemm l-interdett ghax kieku kien jirbah mintoff.
Illum ergajna lura qabel is-76, partit tas-sinjuri li jiehu hsieb klikka ta' nies, ovvja jekk tkun wiehed minn dawk m'ghandekx ghalfejn terger( forsi int wiehed minnhom?) imma jien daqshekk paxxejt dawn it-tip ta' nies jekk iriedu jirbhu l-elezzjoni bil-vot taghhom zgur mhux b'tieghi. Almenu ma nkunx komplici!!!!
Nghid ukoll daqshekk bezawni bil-vjolenza tal-laburisti fuq kollox ghalkemm mhux ha tinzel tajjeb mieghek Sur tabone is-70's u l-80's kienu frott tas-60's. in-nannu tieghi nazzjonalist minn dawk l-antiki niftakkru jghid li minhabba dak li kienet qed taghmel il-knisja, Malta kienet ghad trid tghaddi zminijiet iebsa jew kif jghidu huwa carcir tad-demm u mall-knisja kien ser jehhel il-partit li kien forcina taghha.
Jien mhux ha nivvota labour Qatt imma minn issa l' quddiem l-anqas PN sakemm il-partit jaghmel mea culpa ta' vera u bidla nterna kif imiss.Mhux jien hallejtom imma huma halluni. Forsi mhux xi telfa kbira fuq kollox vot wiehed ghandi imma biex jien wasalt s'hawn mhux ta' xejn tara nies ohra jitilqu mill-partit bla paroli ta' xejn

Eddy Privitera

Jun 3rd 2012, 08:12

J. BUsuttil i I may add to your comment re the change in bus routes. That change is going to cost us many millions of euros more - besides the €50 million in compensation to the previous bus owners - in extra subsidy to be paid to Arriva who were later made to change the routes back to the former ones ! On this alone, Dr. Austin Gatt , who is the minister responsible for Transport Malta, should have resigned or forced to resign!
Instead. Dr. Gonzi defended this arrogant minister by calling for a vote of confidence in the minister when he was saved by the speaker's vote on the motion censuring Austin Gatt presented by the PL !

Anthony Castillo

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:33

I agree with you 100%. I am old enough to remember a good number of political leaders and for me he is very very close to be the best and I am sure that by the time he decide because for sure it would be his decision to decide and the way he is governing the island for sure he is ging to prove that he is going to be the BEST PRIMEMINISTER EVER.

simon vella

Jun 2nd 2012, 22:15

@ Anthony Castillo
Agree Mr Castillo................for certain people like you he is the best prime minister ever, but sure that not everybody can say like you , some people are lucky.

Joe Tabone

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:22

Carlos, does Dear Joseph have any proposals? I'm sure you agree that safeguarding human life is top priority.

carlos ellul

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:36

Do we actually give a top priority to people? Look around you. Immigrants are brought here, dumped in a detention center and then to an open center. They've got no future here because Malta is too small to integrate them. Yet, we insist in following the Dublin 2 treaty to the letter, despite knowing that its making both locals and immigrants life impossible.

We had 500 immigrants in 1 month and yet, you barely hear anything from the government. The reason being that the Gonzipn is too busy holding his grip to power and would never dare stopping appeasing foreign powers (irrispective if its the Libyan or EU big wigs).

carlos ellul

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:44

Regarding Joseph Muscat I don't give a toss about him, since he's not in government. However he did suggesting not to sign the Lisbon treaty unless the EU decides to sort this thing out and he ended up laughed at. We only got 2 sentences regarding this issue in the Lisbon treaty and a lousy Voluntary burden sharing which was as useful to us as bull's tits.

May I also remind you that it was not the PL who signed the Dublin 2 treaty which basically left us in this sorry state but the PN. This government has a moral DUTY towards both locals and immigrants (who are left LOCKED in a small nation which cannot guarantee them any future at all) to amend the mistake it had done in this area and yet its too busy keeping hold to power and giving standing ovations to failed ministers.

Anthony Castillo

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:46

Carlos could you please tell me what Joseph Muscat could do in regards mainly the illegal emmigrants because he never propose anything so far in everything that concerns the island, on the illegal emmigrants that you mensioned we could'nt even got the help the EU gave us because if it was for him and his great friend Alfred San twe could.nt even join the EU AND KNOW ALL HE IS SAYING THAT HE WANTS US TO BE THE BEST IN THE EU without even give us one proposal HOW.

pat muscat

Jun 2nd 2012, 21:09

@Joe Tabone: Dr Muscat advised Dr Gonzi against the signing of 'burden sharing' at 'Dublin Two' does,n.t this give you a clue as who has better understanding of how our European friend's mind works? Not convinced? Just count the thousands of illegal immigrants we have on this over populated resource poor island, and perhaps, you will realize where GonziPN's lack of knowledge and obstinacy brought to this very dire predicament!

carlos ellul

Jun 2nd 2012, 21:16

Dear Mr Castillo, It was the Dublin 2 treaty which insist on us, tagging and forcing immigrants to stay here even if its against their will, that brought us in this silly situation. Guess who signed the Dublin 2 treaty on our behalf

I don't care what Joseph says. I haven't voted for him yet and he's not in government. What I do know is that when he suggested to become more heavy handed with our EU bosses on the subject he was laughed at. Back then the PN opted for the weak voluntary burden sharing which turned into another farce at the same level of Frontex. No wonder why the minister responsible of it ended up sacked.


Anyway What I do care about is to know how is the government going to sort this problem. How many immigrants Malta can take before actually going heavily handed on this issue and pull the plug from the Dublin 2 treaty. The only actions I am seeing is standing ovations, confidence voted and.....another report done by Casa. That's surely going to sort this issue out.

Joe Tabone

Jun 2nd 2012, 22:25

Carlos, i would prefer to be in a 'open centre' than in danger of finishing up at the bottom of the sea.
Re: Lisbon Treaty you got it all wrong.

carlos ellul

Jun 3rd 2012, 08:48

I would rather land on in a place where the government there, has actually plans for my future rather then confine me on tiny island just to appease our masters in Brussels. Its evident that Malta can never give these people a future and yet, we keep quiet about this issue and relying on MPs reports which lead to no where. We're not giving immigrants a life but merely an existence and this is a ticking bomb bound to explode sooner rather then later. However the Gonzipn is more concerned about giving standing ovations and postcards to a sacked minister rather then tackling the issue.

If the government is toothless and its role is merely to appease the Northern European leaders then it would be cheaper to just close the parliament for good and beg Brussels to send a leader of their chose to govern us. That's how a colony works.

carlos ellul

Jun 3rd 2012, 08:50

BTW I would take the government's stance about the Lisbon treaty with a pinch of salt. We're talking about the same guys who signed the Dublin 2 treaty and paraded the Frontex ferry boat and voluntary burden sharing as some sort of solutions to this problem. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice.....

C. Sammut

Jun 2nd 2012, 18:11

Actually he will make the whole nation feel guilty for CMB's resignation.. haven't you noticed the latest tactics? Let justice prevail where injustice resides.

Jay Oatmon

Jun 2nd 2012, 18:15

I agree with you - the lack of action by the government on so many urgent issues is astounding after all they are there to govern (fix the problems and show leadership).

With the many serious problems in Malta - all I hear and see is talk and spin - and no reform or action, there is no substance.

This government is concerned more about its survival than good governance it seems.

joseph saliba

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:38

But Shaun, don't tell us you found his script! You outdid the Hon. Joe Mizzi this time.

Angus Black

Jun 2nd 2012, 17:54

How are you personally affected by the combined effort of the PL and FD to make things difficult for the government, A Dimech? Everything is fine Mr/Mrs/Ms Dimech, far, far better than how things were run two and a half decades ago.
Both the LP and FD should apologize to Dr Mifsud Bonnici for being so crass and opportunistic. They may have put him down for now but his honour has not been tarnished, if any, more people are rallying to his support.
I shall not bide my time waiting for an apology from either especially since both have difficulty discerning good from bad, truth from lies and good manners from boorish acts of envy.

Mario Scicluna

Jun 2nd 2012, 18:28

@Angus Black

Quote 'Both the LP and FD should apologize to Dr Mifsud Bonnici for being so crass and opportunistic'

When will your beloved PN govts. apologize to Dr. Alfred Sant for the ORCHESTRATED character assasination huh? How about the Dom Mintoff saga by the Nationalists in 1998, especially Net TV? How's that for political opportunism Angus? I have already asked previously, somewhat you evaded a reply reply.

To this date, may I remind PN apologists like yourself that Gonzi et al have not apologized for the 'hnizrijiet' committed during the 1960's 'dfin fil-mizbla' u 'dnub il-mejjet' and so much more! At least the Curia did! Hope you don't come up with a lame excuse of the 'dawk kienu il-Knisja' sort.

Ultimately, nor shall I not bide my time waiting for an apology from GonziPN however.

carlos ellul

Jun 2nd 2012, 19:50

Why should they apologize? With all due respect but what exactly had CMB done to deserve such respect? The prison is in shambles, he did nothing to stem the illegal immigration tide and the parole reform had been introduced in the most amateur way possible. I am sure that CMB is a good guy but he's certainly not a minister. Actually he reminds me of another politician.....with the same name (convert it in Maltese) and surname.