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88 more migrants rescued

One of the migrants comes ashore this evening. Picture - Darrin Zammit Lupi.

One of the migrants comes ashore this evening. Picture - Darrin Zammit Lupi.

A group of 88 migrants was rescued by the AFM today and brought to Malta this evening on a patrol boat.

That raises to 276 the number of migrant arrivals in two days, with two groups having arrived yesterday. Most of the migrants are Somali.

Today's group was on a dinghy which was reported to the authorities by a French vessel. The dinghy was 65 miles off Malta. Those on board include 25 women, of whom three are pregnant.

76 migrants also arrived today on a fishing boat in Ragusa Italy, They claimed to be Egyptian.

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FRANK MERCIECA

May 30th 2012, 10:09

@ Valerie You are so wrong my friend. Like the U.S.A. the U.K. is benefiting from various cultures ie. fresh ideas, small ethnic business, import and export from various contacts they bring with them, banking, etc. etc.. I have lived here for 48 years, and I know what I' talking about, I.ve even been a councillor for one term.
The U.K. is the 4th largest economy in the world !!!!! You can't compare Malta to us. We got councils which are bigger than the whole economy of Malta. If your friends did not want to mix, thats there problem !!!!

Charles Grixti

May 31st 2012, 03:52

@Frank Mercieca

So then, you had a cushy job catering for these 'immigrants' who sponge off the system in each country they invade. Seems to me that you are one of those that have a vested interest in bring in more of these users to the West.

And by the way, I too have lived for many years in a Multicultural country and the only benefit that I see goes only to two types - the immigrants/refugees themselves and those that make their money because of them, eg. welfare officers, Police (new recruits and overtime galore to handle the growing crime), Contractors who build social housing, immigration/refugee officers to handle each case, etc. The average citizen gets 'zilch', zero, no, even less then zilch since they have to pay for the extra expenses caused by these 'immigrants".

And for your information, the US who had a "Melting Pot' immigration policy only benefitted from European immgrants who helped build that nation - the more recent immigrants are nothing but a growing social problem, As for the UK, with its 'Asian" and Musllim population, they have been enriching that country by honour killings, demands for halal meats, Sharia laws and of course the occasional curry.

John Azzopoardi

May 29th 2012, 17:19

I thought the Marsa open center and safi are no go areas already. Pity Malta.

Graham Holme

May 29th 2012, 11:51

With Malta not the size of most major cities in the UK,,,How long before Malta becomes one big no go area?

FRANK MERCIECA

May 29th 2012, 12:39

WE HAVE NO, NO GO AREAS IN THE UK. ON THE CONTRARY THE RACIAL MIX HAVE BROUGHT A LOT OF PROSPERITY.

FRANK MERCIECA

May 29th 2012, 12:04

HOPE NO LIVES ARE LOST !!!!!!

Mr Stephen Camilleri

May 29th 2012, 12:53

This is all business my friend and you’re paying it from your own pocket. Not all of us can afford to do so but unfortunately we still have to forfeit it.

Colin Stanley

May 29th 2012, 09:43

I AGREE 100%. WHY DO YOU INSIST ON STAYING?

Scott Mccloskey

May 29th 2012, 10:28

Mr stanley I stay here because i can afford to stay here and like it. I work abroad so i am not taking any maltese jobs all i do is spend my hard earned money and contribute to the maltese society. IS THIS A PROBLEM FOR YOU? And another reason is it is legal for me to stay here being scottish and holding a british passport. Whats your reason?

Lucky Okocha Achebe

May 29th 2012, 10:54

the truth is I have been held hostage by the dublin regulation. If you manage to delete my finger prints I will be very grateful and live happily the same day. i am sure you do understand why i couldn't return back to my beloved country as explosions, and shootings of christians in northen Nigeria is a daily incident. you know this world is not fair...you grant asylum for eritreans where a single bullet has not been heard for a decade, and for people from somaliland and djibouti where as you deport people to a dangerous places like north nigeria.
if you got halfar or marsa open centers you hardly see non somali or eritrean signing for allowance. we are hard working people but still you hate us....you say you live for your christian values..but you are targeting vulnerable christians........as far as JRS or UNHCR is they had nothing to do with the Africans. they favour the 2 nationals.

carlos ellul

May 29th 2012, 11:38

I understand your point Lucky, but please see our point of view too. We're as victims as you are. Look around you. Malta is small. Its got no natural resources and its already overpopulated. Its not the Maltese whose keeping you here against your will but the people up north, the same people who colonized OUR lands. You feel discriminated by the do gooders? So do us. They barely say a good word about us and expect us to keep forking money to an uncontrollable flow of immigrants.

Our only mistake is not pushing the government hard enough to pull the plug out of the RACIST Dublin 2 treaty. However such fault must be shared. Like the locals, the illegal immigrant's community in Malta does nothing to arrange this RACIST deal.

Its time for us to unite. Malta is full up and such phenomenon will damage both you and us. We share the same goals (a bright future) and the same ENEMIES. Lets give each other a hand.

Graham Holme

May 29th 2012, 12:12

Lucky
No one person is against uncontrolled illegal immigration more than me..I have seen first hand the devastating effect it is now having on the U.K. most of Europe.
But,and it is a big but.I have no problem with genuine asylum seekers.
If as you say you are Christian in Northern Nigeria?Then yes,Islam is once again raising its ugly head,killing persecuting non Muslims.
It is the influx,of economic illegal immigrants,freeloaders,that have no intention of intergrating,working,just content to live the life of luxury,courtesy of the European tax payer,,,

ahmed mohammed

May 29th 2012, 13:45

luckey, shame on you! we are not after a better lefe like people from the other african countries. To tell the truth all africans have left for your economical problems except the somalis. the problem in north nigeria started very recently but you came before years so you claims are not relevant. As far as the multi cultural JRS is concerned they have 4 cultural mediators 1 of them is Somali and 3 of them are Eritreans. again shame on you Lucky when you say JRS favores Somalis. Regarding UNHCR we are the biggest immigrant community in Malta but we are the least beneficiary of resettlemnt programs where us eritreans are again the favourt.

Colin Stanley

May 29th 2012, 14:16

You got it wrong , I was not refering to you, but to the guy who said that we don't treat them well over here. (Mr.L.O.Achebe.)aren't there any safe countries in Africa where one can go. does it have to be Europe? what is so special about Europe? I agree with you, if I had to choose, I would prefer you to the others.

Colin Stanley

May 29th 2012, 15:09

you got me wrong, I was not telling you, but Mr.L.O.Achebe

Michael Debono

May 29th 2012, 09:06

Joesph

somehow i dont think so,look at the UK,always bleating on about immigration but yet vote for the same old parties year after year.At the end of the day none of the parties want to stop immigration and god knows why

John Spiteri

May 29th 2012, 09:36

The maltese should start having more children. The problem with the modern culture today is that most women are too busy having a career and not a family. Most of the women I work with have never been pregnant or have only been pregnant once. This is why politicians dont want to stop illegal immigration. What they should do is encourage family life!

Charles W. Sammut

May 29th 2012, 08:33

They navigate here by GPS. Make no mistake about it. A lot more is being withheld by government on the actual situation.

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:22

Debbie Schembri that's a blatant lie and you know what those who lie are called.

Maltese always did those jobs and all jobs but they are being undermined by your African illegal immigrants.

That's why the vast majority of Maltese people do not want illegal immigrants in Malta apart of not knowing anything about them apart from what they themselves tell us and the diseases they have brought and are continuing to bring with them.

Chris Mifsud

May 29th 2012, 09:32

Don't talk rubbish Debbie Schembri!

So before we started being invaded by ILLEGAL immigrants you are saying that nobody (Maltese) used to work on the rubbish trucks ?

Do not be so naive! The fact is that the operators of rubbish trucks found it cheaper to employ illegal immigrants than it is to employ Maltese.

Colin Stanley

May 29th 2012, 09:52

IS THIS WHAT POLITICIANS THRIVE ON HALF TRUTHS.

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:24

The common sense is to send all of them back to Libya or to their own countries or buy some old ships, anchor them miles off Malta, put them on the ships and guard them so that no one leaves. Extraordinary circumstances call for extraordinary measures.

Chris Mifsud

May 29th 2012, 09:35

Reason gets you nowhere! Common sense tells me that they should ALL be sent back. This is not about what is best for everyone but needs to be what is best for Malta and the Maltese, first and before anything.

Kenneth Cassar

May 29th 2012, 08:16

"are we expected to leave Malta to make way for them?"

No one is asking you to. In fact, we have to put up with the likes of you.

M Borg

May 29th 2012, 09:53

If the problem is not tackled asap that's what is going to happen we will be the ones leaving Malta in search of a better life...bit by bit they are taking over

Martin Formosa

May 29th 2012, 08:02

Duncan, When I lived in Italy just 6 months ago, they practically own and sell from the bancarella (monti) without permits. The guardia di finanza (tax police) have given up on them and leave them alone when other Italian business men and women pay the taxes. At the rate we are receiving them in Malta they will start to infiltrate businesses once they have a proper foothold, it is just a matter of time.

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:30

Mr M. Vella you contradict yourself when you say that they are an expense to save and keep and that we have to cater for them.
NO way. They must be sent back to "Our Friends the Libyans" or to their own countries.
Their manpower must be in their own countries being used to rebuild their countries not inundating us and causing us so much trouble.

Reinhard Azzopardi

May 29th 2012, 09:05

Valid point indeed.

V Cassar

May 28th 2012, 22:51

Really... and also risk your child's life; you would get pregnant just before leaving and then give birth just as soon as you arrive. Very convenient to bring a genetically 100% Somali child which will then be legally Maltese due to Place of Birth.
There's always that one woman who doesn't manage and gives birth on the patrol boat, I bet that is real coincidence. Don't be so naive as this is a silent invasion. May your eyes open in 20 years time.

For all those who claim to be altruistic and catholic I suggest you look at the present and future needs of this country and not react with a catholic-derived instinct of "Jahasra u msieken". My children will be the jahasra in a future Mediterrenean Somali.

Joe Grech

May 29th 2012, 01:34

@ Frank Mercieca - What proof have you that you are saying the truth?

John Attard

May 29th 2012, 06:19

Is there any Libyan administration? are you real? Truly Libyans needed a dictator like Gaddafi to keep them in place. Now they are in the same state Malta was in 1979.........the future beckons!z

Emmanuel Curmi

May 29th 2012, 07:29

It is not a fact of helping these people or not but does it cross your mind that it is becoming unbearable? Also, if it is Libya the problem, why don't these people go to Dubai for example? Why come to Malta, or to Lampedusa? For Italy, and more for Malta it has become difficult to control this problem and something must be done about it....

Debbie Schembri

May 29th 2012, 07:35

Dear Frank I agree with you 100 per cent but most of Maltese are very very racist. I really hate it when i hear some thing stupid about them because they are human being like us, If I have problem like them here i do the same and i want some body to help me not leave me dieing.

debbie schembri

Emmanuel Curmi

May 29th 2012, 08:01

@ Debbie Schembri...

I do never mind helping these human beings, and try to accommodate their needs. BUT as I stated in my previous comment.....the situation has become unbearable! We can't go on like this since 1.) this is all our taxes' money - which could be spent on something else (selfishly speaking, but it's the truth). 2.) in some areas, like Hal Far, Birzebbuga and Marsa, it has become a no-go zone for the Maltese...try going to Hal Far alone and see if you feel safe!

I know the majority need help. But don't you think that with the difficulties we face each day, this is an extra problem which must be addressed...and this is not something political....it is the truth which whoever is in govt. must face!

M Borg

May 29th 2012, 08:16

well said Mr.Curmi

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:33

V Cassar they can never be given Maltese nationality as none of their parents or grandġparents are Maltese. Nonetheless they must be sent back where they came from.

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:34

Emmanuel Curmi because in those countries they have to work and here they live like leeches on our taxes while working on the black economy undermining Maltese workers and their families.

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:35

Debbie Schembri they went overland to Libya and they can go back to their own countries or to another African country the same way. But then they have to work and not live on other peoples taxes.

Colin Stanley

May 29th 2012, 09:57

DREAM ON. ARE YOU SO NAIVE, OR IS IT YOUR JOB TO FEED US THIS CRAP. I THOUGHT THEY LEFT LIBYA DURING THE WAR.

Jessica Smith

May 28th 2012, 22:23

Lucky Okocha Achebe wrong. Malta shall be home only for Maltese citizens not for illegal immigrants from whatever country they come.

O. Tretyak

May 28th 2012, 23:54

Why they do not want to go Italy?

angelo cilia

May 28th 2012, 23:54

Why don't you make the continent of Africa your dream home at a luxurious size of 11677239 square miles instead of a barren and over crowded tiny island of 122 square miles that was only made habitable by the sweat and blood of our Maltese forefathers. Do you honestly think we can keep on accommodating all of sub saharan africa's population here in their millions so they can enjoy the good life they never earned or deserve gratis ?

Charles Grixti

May 29th 2012, 00:59

The Somali Muslims are the favoured people of the Jesuits. So of course they have preference over anybody else, especially over any Christians. I had asked this question to a Jesuit acquaintance of mine and he did not deny it but skirted around the question.

Joseph Sammut

May 29th 2012, 05:52

Lucky, that's the way you see things. The way we see things is that you are FORTUNE SEEKERS, imposing yourselves on other countries under the pretext of refugees (therefore covered by international law) and still pretend to be treated as a normal citizen: you are an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT and would be treated as such. Don't expect more.

carlos ellul

May 29th 2012, 06:13

Thanks for your insight Lucky. So, we are basically being TARGETED by Somalians and Eritreans because some wise guy had made it a dreamland. BTW don't worry to much about us. Its not as if we need more immigrants from Nigeria, Ghana or anywhere else.

Steve Demicoli

May 29th 2012, 06:14


Homeland? I think Malta is HOMEland for the Maltese. 'Guests' have to abide by the rules. Uninvited guests who enter illegally with no respect for country borders will be detained. And yes, economic migrants must be deported

T Attard

May 29th 2012, 06:35

Sorry to hear that.

Daniel Dimech

May 29th 2012, 09:29

Sorry to tell but I hope you can understand the meaning of illegal.........

Colin Stanley

May 29th 2012, 10:01

IT IS TRUE THE NIGERIANS ARE BEING SENT BACK AND WE ARE LEFT WITH ALL THE MUSLIMSTHEY SHOULD ALL BE SENT BACK.

Reinhard Azzopardi

May 29th 2012, 10:08

What cheek! Thanks for your input Lucky. People like you continue to prove my point. You're all so arrogant. I have nothing against your colour but yes I do have something against your attitude. If that makes me racist, so be it. I just don't care. I'm not willing to put up with your arrogance.

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:37

Mr Matthew Abela fully agree with you.

Jonathan Vella

May 28th 2012, 20:22

Ma jahdimx min ma jridx jew min ma hu kapaci ghal xejn.

jeneba caruana

May 28th 2012, 20:36

xi hadd tak xi xoghol bi dritt? ma nahsibx. Kulhadd ghandu dritt jahdem u jghix hajja tajba!

Cari A. M

May 29th 2012, 00:14

Jiddispjecini ta imma jekk qedin jahdmu go restaurants, u postijiet ohra, dawn ikunu qed ihallsu it-taxxi u l-NI daqs kull Malti ghax ikunu irregistrati jew mela sid il-hotel jew ir-restaurant mhux se jhaddimhom ghax ikun jista jiblgha xi kanna ta multa jew jittiehdu passi legali kontrih.

U int fejn taf li uhud minnhom mhumiex nies mizzewga Maltin u qed jiprovaw isostnu il-familja taghhom bhal kif taghmel int?!!

Ir-ragel tieghi Nigerjan u jista jahdem ma l-Arriva jekk irid, go hotel, go restaurant, u mhux se tkun wahda bhalekk li tigi tghid li qed jiehodlok xogholok ghax ghandu kull dritt li jahdem bhal ma taghmel int u jekk forsi hu kapaci iktar minnek haqqu ix-xoghol li ghandu!!

U taf x'inhu igelek tmur tirregistra, z-zmien kollu li kont suppost tkun fil-klassi attenta u ma kontx taghti kass dak li kienet tghid l-ghalliema. Iz-zmien kollu li suppost studjajt u minflokk tajt kass, qadt tpappija.

Issa faccli twehhilha fuq il-barranin li qed jiehdulek xogholok meta probabilment ir-raguni li m'ghandekx xoghol huwa it-tort tieghek u tal-mentalita li ghandek. Jew mela ghax tipretendi li x-xoghol isir wahdu u mhux taghmlu int.

Din l-istess litargija li nisimghu. Tridu tahdmu?!! Morru l-ETC hudu korsijiet, itghallmu aqraw u iktbu, tidghux ghax tkunu baxxi u biddlu l-mentalita li ghandkom u taraw li ssibu xoghol!!

Taf x'jighdu?!! Ghin ruhek biex Alla jghinek

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:45

Jonathan Vella, hadd ma jista' jahdem bihom ghax jaccettaw pagi u kundizzjonijiet li l-ebda haddiem Malti ma jista' jaccetta. Huma ghandhom kollox b'xejn, fejn joqghodu, ikel, telephone, internet, flus mit-taxxi taghna, kull servizz socjali inkluz servizzi tas-sahha, u hafna affarijiet ohra li l-ebda haddiem Malti ma ghandu ghax irid ihallas ghalihom jew hallas ghalihom qabel mit-taxxi li jhallas.

jeneba caruana jahdem f'pajjizu mhux f'pajjizna. Hadd hlief xi erba laghaqa ma jridhom gewwa pajjizna.

Cari A. M le, dawn ikunu qeghdin mohbija f'xi kamra jaghmlu x-xoghol fejn ma jidhirx u la jhallsu t-taxxi u xejn. Anki jekk ihallsu t-taxxi u l-bolla dawn xorta wahda qed jiehdu xoghol u hobz il-haddiema Maltin u l-familji taghhom. Ir-ragel tieghek ghandu dritt li jahddem ghax mizzewweg cittadin Malti, imma dan ma ghandhomx dritt. Jekk iridu jmorru lura lejn pajjizhom. Nittama li ma jghaddix iz-zmien u jiddispjacik li jkun halliek b'xi corma tfal u dabbar rasu kif jafu jaghmlu.

Kenneth Bonnici

May 29th 2012, 01:39

minn qallek li suppost ahna nsara?

Colin Stanley

May 29th 2012, 10:08

KIEKU AHNA INSARA, MHUX QED NAGHMLU DAL BUZZULOTTI KOLLHA. BHAL DIVORCE, SAME SEX MARRIAGES, ADOPTION BY GAYS, ETC JIGGIFIERI DON'T MENTION THE CHISTAIN CARD ANY MORE .

ahmed mohammed

May 28th 2012, 19:32

you are very out reach! do you know who is cleaning hotels, restaurants, hospitals, workshops, the streets for cheap? we are doing that! at the same time we are paying taxing as you. but when we lose job..unlike you we don't have benefit. so please don't critisize for doing nothing. We have exploited for years......

Ray Buhagiar

May 28th 2012, 19:35

Well said

Reinhard Azzopardi

May 28th 2012, 19:44

Your behaviour is so typical Mr. Mohammed. You come to our country ILLEGALLY with your tale of woe and expect to be given red carpet treatment. You expect us to bend to your customs and religions and question authority wherever you go. And yet you expect us to welcome you with open arms. If you manage to find a job, you complain that you are exploited. In your country you would probably be killed for it. Exploitation isn't right but neither is your approach.

Oh, and another thing. There's a reason why african illegal immigrants are underpaid. They run on two gears... slow and stop. I've worked with Africans in Europe and in North Africa and their rate of productivity is the same everywhere. It's next to nil and they have to be urged (or pushed or threatened) to get some work done.

stephen koludrovic

May 28th 2012, 19:49

@ Ahmed mohammed.

I agree with you, where you wrote that you have exploited for years.

Ms D. Borg

May 28th 2012, 20:16

@ ahmed mohammed

We know you are taking the jobs of the Maltese because obviously you are paid cheaper wages. But you are not Maltese and nobody invited you here anyway.

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 20:18

ahmed mohammed the Maltese people are not the ones that exploited you and yes you were exploited but not by us.Why didn't you stay where you came from and fight for your freedom like they are doing in Syria and like they did in Libya, and in Egypt. Freedom does not come free for any nation. You come here illegally and you want to find everything ready and set up for you. We clothe you, feed you and give you a place to live. What I am saying if you can understand it, Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Pippo De Marco

May 28th 2012, 20:36

@ Ahmed Mohammed.

The jobs you describe used to be done by Maltese workers who might still be employed if there wasn't an unwelcome supply of cheap, exploitable labour.

As we say, if you don't like the heat, then stay out of the kitchen.

Joe Borg

May 28th 2012, 21:26

@ahmed If you've been exploited you are free to leave Malta, like you were free to leave your country.

B Borg

May 28th 2012, 21:43

@ahmed mohammed

As you said it, you work for cheap. Before you came to Malta and offered your services for cheap, the Maltese were cleaning Hotels, Restaurants, Workshops or streets for better salaries and conditions, but since you came many jobs have stalled in offering better jobs...because there is more supply then demand, and again you work for cheap unlike the Maltese who try to get better wages. As unlike you the Maltese they dont have a warm bed in an open centre for Free, with Free water, Free electricity, Free TV, Free Food, Free Drink, Pocket Money and more from the Maltese generosity. Apart that you also get Hospital, Schools, for Free. So you should be glad to pay the little taxes as you do!.

Jessica Smith

May 28th 2012, 22:25

ahmed mohammed that's why you are undermining the Maltese workers because you come here and accept low wages and working conditions. You are robbing Maltese workers and their families of their work and bread. And you wonder why we do not want any of you here?

Charles Grixti

May 29th 2012, 01:07

@ahmend Mohammed

So then according to you, who was cleaning hotels, hospitals and restaurants, etc. before you uninvited lot showed up? Yes, it was the Maltese - do not think that you are doing us any favours, pack your bags and we will gladly take over the job that we did so well before. And speaking of Mohammed, since you are obviously a Muslim, why is it that the oil rich countries of the Middle East never extend a hand to their co-religionists like yourself and take you in and give you shelter, welfare and jobs? Why do you always show up at the door of the infidels?

B Grech

May 29th 2012, 07:49

@Ahmed. My brother up until recently was employed in a similar fashion. Its funny how when you flood the market with foreginers the rate of pay and conditions only deteriorate. Low skill Maltese workers are suffering deeply in part due to the huge influx of illegal and legal immigrants.

Daniel Dimech

May 29th 2012, 09:34

Ahmed Mohammed it is very simple just leave the Islands so you won't be exploited.

Jonathan Vella

May 28th 2012, 20:20

And what is your wish, dear?

jeneba caruana

May 28th 2012, 20:43

@Ahmed Mohammed
Well said!! You have my support!!

Peter deMarco

May 28th 2012, 22:30

Mr. Azzopardi, many are frustrated by what’s happening, but your comment leaves me wondering whether it is simply the result of frustration, or maybe, a case of “not missing a beat” in criticising the authorities.

I hardly think anyone would agree that what’s happening actually reflects the wishes and desires of Messrs. LG and CMB. I’m sure that, like you and I, they’d prefer it if the boats gave Malta a wide berth.

While it is indeed the authorities’ responsibility to deal with this real and unwelcome problem, I wonder if you would venture a (workable) suggestion as to what should be done when a boatload of humans is at risk around Malta. Not looking for anything particularly detailed here – just some high-level advice/guidance to the authorities as to how to prevent them from landing on our shores.

Jessica Smith

May 29th 2012, 09:47

jeneba caruana go support him in Africa

Mr Joe Micallef

May 28th 2012, 19:11

Sleeply Sleepy Muscat! These things are way beyond you!

Irene Forster

May 28th 2012, 19:23

"Someone is marketing Malta and directing them to us"....The ones already here are.

Eddy Privitera

May 28th 2012, 19:24

jOE mICALLEF. THINGS SEEM TO BE BEYOND GONZI, FOR SURE !

Ivan Attard

May 28th 2012, 21:27

Joe Muscat - the problem sure seems to be beyond YOU poor soul!

pat muscat

May 29th 2012, 08:52

@Joey Micallef. I think that the 'burden sharing' was beyond Simon and Lawrence; look what we have to put up with, a bunch of incompetents and..... as lawrence said to the ex ambassador: we are in this predicament because the ministers have no talents!

Mauro debattista

May 28th 2012, 19:11

No Mr Grech

Our politicians are just too busy on stupid agendas rather than the important issues for our country.

John Paul Cauchi

May 28th 2012, 21:56

@ Can Dr Gonzi please tell us how many illegal immigrants Malta will be forced to take in the name of Christian values

As much as is necessary.

@And who pays for Christian values?

We all do. And Yes - 1 euro a MONTH isn't that much, you know. It's less than an ice cream.

Jessica Smith

May 28th 2012, 22:33

John Paul Cauchi maybe you want to pay for them but I and others do NOT. As for your euro don't try to fool us because we know how much they are costing us. MILLIONS every year apart from taking our jobs and family bread.

Kenneth Bonnici

May 29th 2012, 01:45

@cauchi..... speak for yourself, who says we all agree with the Christian values? and i know no one would mind one euro, in fact we would even pay 2 euro to get rid of this problem (or millions like italy did)

John Paul Cauchi

May 28th 2012, 19:08

Dear Louise Vella,

Get a life.

Pippo De Marco

May 28th 2012, 19:29

Dear John Paul Cauchi,

Get a grip on reality.

John Attard

May 28th 2012, 19:32

JRS a lot of talk and no action

John Paul Cauchi

May 28th 2012, 21:53

I do have a grip on reality. I've been to their countries. I've spoken to them. Have you ever done that? Or are you the armchair critic Louise Vella undoubtedly is? All she does is rant about how horrible the situation is here. Clearly she hasn't been to the continent just south of our little island. You would do the same.

They don't have passports because their countries do NOT issue passports.

And dear John Attard you clearly have no idea what JRS does. They do amazing work. And their work is not about sending them back. It's about defending their rights as human beings.

Reinhard Azzopardi

May 29th 2012, 10:14

@John Paul Cauchi,

I see your point and all is well and good. I admire people like you who sacrifice everything to try to help these poor souls, however,I am also a firm believer that charity begins at home and we have enough problems to cope with here. And forgive me for being cruel here but really, I don't think that they deserve our help any more. Take a look at Libya. What didn't we do to help them last year? And how did they thank us? By unloading their unwanted immigrants onto us. I know that many of us bear a grudge towards these people but believe me, it's not without reason.

James Dewar

May 28th 2012, 22:56

Charles, I have also seen that statistic and a number of other alarming ones all directly related to the differences in reproduction rate which suggest that this is now an irreversible trend with the Christian faith unlikely to survive long term. I can not however vouch for the accuracy of the statistic or the prediction.

James Dewar

May 28th 2012, 23:00

Charles, without wishing to sound or be labelled racist (I am certainly not) I agree with what you say. Having visited Malta for many years we have recently seen a substantial increase in the "refugee" population and whether others like to admit it or not it is having a negative effect on the tourist's perception of the Island.

James Dewar

May 28th 2012, 23:02

Yes, you seem to be adopting the Scottish maxim of "One Scotland, many cultures". "One Malta, many cultures" ?? Mmm?

Nazzareno Borg

May 28th 2012, 18:19

Why not try tackling it yourself?

A. Zammit

May 28th 2012, 18:20

What are you exactly recommending??????????????????????

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 18:28

And how do you propose Joseph Muscat will stop all the illegal immigration while still under the grip of the EU? Stop dreaming.

Joseph Brincat

May 28th 2012, 19:20

Nazzareno Borg
You know that i cannot tackle it my self ,
but GONZI PN have the power but he is too coward
to act on the merit of : - malta tigi l - ewwel qabel kollox

Jonathan Vella

May 28th 2012, 18:42

You're a silly girl. No one in their right mind takes joy from the misfortunes of others.

Chris Mifsud

May 28th 2012, 19:51

@Jonathan Vella - What misfortune are you talking about ?? I would LOVE to be able to go to any country in the world without any documentation whatsoever and still be allowed in, given free food, free accommodation and free pocket money.

We are the misfortune ones and not the illegal immigrants.

Ivan Attard

May 28th 2012, 21:36

Jonathan Vella: Maybe the problem is too huge to be beyond your power of assimilating it.
The 'MISFORTUNE' is OURS and solely OURS not the illegal entrants' who only stand to gain a free meal on our back - my back to be more to the point! And that is something which I am RELUCTANT to keep doing!

James Dewar

May 28th 2012, 23:08

@ Jonathan Vella: Not so sure that Louise is at all silly. The Maltese islands are also suffering the "misfortune" of having a disproportionate number of "refugees" regularly landing on their shores. There have got to be realistic controls and a limit irrespective of the plight of the "refugees". My observations are as a tourist / regular visitor and even I can see the issues if there is not a realistic response.

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 18:25

Louise the only solution is to get out of the EU, and you and I know this is not going to happen. How come these illegal immigrants are not seeking the refuge with the richer countries like Saudi Arabia? Yeah right. I am starting to believe that neither the PN nor the PL have any chance of stopping this invasion of illegal immigrants as long as we are under the watchful eye of the EU. We sold our souls to the devil when we joined the EU and this is the price we have to pay, it seems.

ahmed mohammed

May 28th 2012, 18:45

Most of them are Somalis understandably refugees. Please don't call them illegal

Reinhard Azzopardi

May 28th 2012, 18:53

@Ahmed Mohammed

They came here using illegal means so yes they are illegal and to me, NO, THEY ARE NOT WELCOME. Somalia's problems are not our concern. We have enough problems of our own.

Jessica Smith

May 28th 2012, 18:56

ahmed mohammed they are ILLEGAL and are NOT wanted in Malta.

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 19:02

Mr ahmed mohammed being Somalis or not has nothing to do with calling them illegals, because even though they might be refugees they are still illegal immigrants. A lot of them are opportunists from other countries and the authorities have to distinguish who is, and who is not. In the meantime they are all illegal immigrants for the simple fact that they are not exactly invited to come here and invade our shores. If you are coming to my house, I expect you to first ask permission, that is how we do it in a democratic country.

Chris Mifsud

May 28th 2012, 19:47

@Ahmed Mohamed - Yes they ARE ILLEGAL! They came here ILLEGALLY and without documentation.

Marthese Mussett

May 28th 2012, 20:21

This is a very bad situation.When are the Authorities going to wake up?No wonder we have so many unemployed.We are supposed to feel sorry for them...and yet they keep breeding children and making their situation worse.

Marthese Mussett

May 28th 2012, 20:27

I agree 100%.We have enough problems of our own.Unemployment,people on benefits,people getting unemployment benefit and working cash in hand,single mothers having one child and then another and another...overflowing hospital,not enough doctors,and it goes on.The government should tackle our own problems.These people are poor and yet they keep breeding children.And our government pays them children allowance.My husband and I both work so our children allowance gets deducted and goes to them and all other scroungers.Yes,Mr Galea,you are right,them coming here it s making the situation much much worse.

Alfred Vassallo

May 28th 2012, 18:23

You really left me speechless!!. OMG.

Reinhard Azzopardi

May 28th 2012, 18:53

Erm, sorry but i'm not interested in your proposal.

Steve Demicoli

May 28th 2012, 19:38

Maybe when they start asking for proper permissions instead of imposing themselves upon us (ie when we have a choice) we would be able to start considering your soft touch ideas . . .

Chris Mifsud

May 28th 2012, 19:42

Why don't YOU go to their country and care for them and love them over there ?

Ivan Attard

May 28th 2012, 21:41

You can sure count me out of your 'preposterous proposal'. I will NEVER even try to give a damn for an ILLEGAL, UNINVITED AND UNWANTED alien. Go hug and love them at your home Mr Marsh.

Jessica Smith

May 28th 2012, 22:39

Claude Marsh you can rest assured that the vast majority of Maltese people are not interested in doing what you suggest and want them OUT of Malta.

James Dewar

May 28th 2012, 23:11

I think you will be in the minority with your proposal, perhaps even a lone voice! Reality must prevail and the head must be allowed to rule the heart and not vice versa.

Joe Grech

May 28th 2012, 18:04

I agree totally with your comment! this administration is not just inefficient;; it is also irresponsible. It is seeing Malta reduced to a shambles both financially and socially and it just does not do anything except for mouthing its propaganda!
Shame!

Alfred Vassallo

May 28th 2012, 18:21

Spot on. These people have absolutely nothing to loose, life or death means nothing to them or to their children. Its up to us NOW to do something about it and to hell with the EU.

Colin Stanley

May 28th 2012, 17:44

YES OUR POLITICIANS.

Marthese Mussett

May 28th 2012, 20:29

And this somebody made a big success..in ruining it,

James Dewar

May 28th 2012, 23:17

Victor, I hear there is a huge floating illuminated sign moored out in the ocean with an arrow pointing towards Malta saying "MALTA THIS WAY"

Reinhard Azzopardi

May 28th 2012, 18:54

When Norman Lowell did so, he was dubbed racist.

Pippo De Marco

May 28th 2012, 17:51

Sorry, Joe.

Simon is far too busy trying to make Gonzi look re-electable.

But then again, he would probably have more success trying to sort out the ilmmigration saga.

Ray Buhagiar

May 28th 2012, 17:29

These are not our enemies. But yes something must be done to ease the problems on ministates like Malta.

It seems there is an organized trend in these crossings. Each boat have at least one pregnant and children aboard. There destination is definitely Malta. I ask are there any crossings towards Spain, Greece, Cyprus?

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 18:00

Maltese waters are the closest and the most convenient, and the Human Traffickers are well aware of this. This is not going to stop, not with the EU, the UNCHR and our friend and neighbor Libya encouraging such crossings. As our loyal friends and neighbors Libya should stop these crossings before they start. They stopped it for Burlesconi because he paid a huge ransom to Gaddafi. Forgot about that one?

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 17:53

Mauro don't blame the Minister, blame the EU, the UNCHR, the NGOs the Bleeding hearts etc. There isn't much the Minister can do because he has to follow the EU rules and regulations. When we joined the EU we sold our souls to the devil and we are paying the price. Glass half full, glass half empty.

Mauro debattista

May 28th 2012, 18:31

So we should use the veto. Indeed

Jessica Smith

May 28th 2012, 22:42

Joseph Calleja yes the Minister is to blame together with the Prime Minister because if they had their manhood they would put them back on their boats and send them back to Libya, but as I said neither the Minister nor the Prime Minister have their manhood.

Charles W. Sammut

May 28th 2012, 17:20

They have already taken a stand. To be quiet about it or else the EU will slap their wrist.

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 17:50

No because our politicians are too busy cutting each other down and pointing fingers. And who in his right mind would stand up to the EU or for that matter the UNCHR and NGOs? Mission Control (EU) this is Malta calling, we have a problem. This is not a PN or PL or AD problem, this is a Malta problem and it is going to get worse by the end of Summer. And what is the EU going to do about it? As usual NOTHING.

Jean Paul Bugeja

May 28th 2012, 17:14

Just because a French vessel found them, they cannot(by law) take them to France. The only thing they can do is either escort them to the nearest safe port or signal someone(in this case the AFM) to rescue them. One last comment if these immigrants were spotted in Malta's waters, doesn't it seem a little far fetched to take them to France...........

Ray Buhagiar

May 28th 2012, 17:25

By end of summer we should get at least 40,000 immigrants. Can we cope with this?

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 17:35

Mr Bugeja I was being factitious.

Joseph Calleja

May 28th 2012, 17:41

Sorry about the typo, I meant being facetious....ooooops.

Joseph M. Saliba

May 28th 2012, 17:13

This is the government responsibility. If I am not mistaken KMB Junior and Prime Minister Gonzi had promised that E.U accepted Burden Sharing. Am I right????? Fejn hu De Martino?????

m. borg (slm)

May 28th 2012, 17:18

How does the opposition comes into it, I believe it is the government that has to take care of diplomatic relations, gives order to the armed forces and shoulders the reponsability of SAR.

Why not blame the stupid agreement CMB signed in the government's name regarding the Burden Sharing Agreement.

Ray Buhagiar

May 28th 2012, 17:23

Opposition should tell us their proposal to stop this invasion.

Joseph Brincat

May 28th 2012, 17:46

Ms D . Borg
Sorry but you can't blame the opposition for
the government ( GONZI PN ) have the power on act and
NOT the opposition !!!!!!!! SO SHAME ON GONZI PN !!!!

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