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Updated: Seabank collapse - Missing worker found dead this morning

Updated Wednesday morning

The lifeless body of a 27-year-old Latvian construction worker has been found buried in the ruins of a nightclub and underlying carpark which collapsed at the Seabank Hotel in Ghadira Bay yesterday.

The grim discovery was made at 5.30 a.m. today by rescuers of the Civil Protection Department after his location was pinpointed by search and rescue dogs. There was never any sign of life.

Sources said that it is highly probably that the Latvian died with the collapse during which he sustained serious head injuries with which it was unlikely that he would have survived.

The man was found buried under five metres of compressed material. When the structure fell, it had a pancaking effect and rescuers had to cut through two levels of reinforced concrete to get to the victim.

Following the arrival of court experts, the body was recovered from the debris and taken to Mater Dei Hospital in a police hearse.

The concrete, steel and wood domed structure, which had been in the final stages of construction, collapsed at about 10.40 a.m. yesterday.

Chief Executive Arthur Gauci said the Latvian worker was one of two workers who were dismantling shuttering on the scene of the collapse.

The operation was a difficult one for the rescuers because the state of the structure posed the risk of further collapse, possibly endangering the rescuers. At one time a crane was used to lift a section of the collapsed structure, but parts of it fell back down.

The missing worker was found under tons of rubble in the remains of the underground car park, which appears to have collapsed first, bringing down the overlying nightclub.

The Seabank Hotel is currently closed and undergoing a major extension which will see it grow to 500 rooms, making it one of the biggest in Malta. It had been planned to reopen in May.

A number of workers who had been close to the site of the collapse appeared distraught and some had tears in their eyes. One of them said the collapse happened very suddenly.

"The whole thing just caved in from the centre," he said. 

He said it was fortunate that the collapse had not brought down a large crane - one of four around the site - as the incident would have been far worse.

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Mario Camilleri

Mar 7th, 17:55

Refer to the experts below :-)

Mr Brandon Pisani

Mar 7th, 20:33

In fact this worker has been named. One News reported yesterday that his name is Maksims Artamonous

James Tyrrell

Mar 7th, 13:31

I would say this is out of respect for the man's family who deserve to be informed before the name appears in the press.

Victor Rodenas

Mar 7th, 17:19

It would have been much worse if the building collapsed after it was ready,with hundreds of people dancing and jumping around.

john aguis

Mar 7th, 12:58

Safety and Malta........don't think so!!!!

David Smith

Mar 7th, 13:04

And your point is?? According to the NSO in Malta, just under 3000 accidents happen at work every year. Are you going to list them all? I assume that you are German. If that is the case, and according to DGUV, the rate of accidents at work in Germany was of 26.8 per 1000 employees. In Malta, it is 21!!
Need I say more?

Joe Grech

Mar 7th, 17:06

Well done....you certainly drove the message home: that this administration, this Prime Minister and Cabinet especially just do not care about the safety of people. How about Chris Said doing something about THAT....before other fatalities occur.

john aguis

Mar 7th, 13:00

Yes, it is called MALTA!!!!!!!!!

P Pace Balzan

Mar 7th, 09:17

No - it is clearly not made of lego, however
the construction site is at sea level and it is built in a valley full of underground water streams.
The valley structure should never have been touched and pillions should have been placed deep down all over the foundations.

Ivan Calleja

Mar 7th, 13:44

Yes of course permitted Mr. Mizzi. What you didn't say it should have never been permitted as it goes against lots of MEPA policies and regulations!!

Joseph bartolo

Mar 7th, 11:12

Kenny ..... why dont you go back to edingburgh where its safer then ??


Jesmond Chetcuti

Mar 7th, 12:07

Joseph...what Kenny is saying is the truth, people in Malta prefer to close ,not one but both eyes ,aslong as money is saved. The cause of this incident could be blamed on many things: wrong type of concrete specified, wrong type and amount of reinforcement, early loading of the concrete slab, early strip of the shuttering, and most of all ,good building practicies,it doesnt matter if architects and engineers specifiy and design detail drawings, its up to the people on site to see that the construction is accordingly. On jobs of this size you expect that a `quality system` is in place and every stage of construction is being certified that is done as per the drawings and specifications. Its an important process that takes time and COST money, if these quality checks has been skipped or tampered, than God help who was responsable, cause he/she will have a human life on their conscience.
RIP fellow worker...

Emma Xerri

Mar 8th, 22:45

@Joseph Bartolo

Why get upset at constructive crticism?

Franco Farrugia

Mar 7th, 09:03

Probably waiting for his relatives to be informed, don't you think?

Franco Farrugia

Mar 7th, 09:08

I haven't read the comments that you are referring to but in my opinion, the very fact that 'a person lost his life' is enough to provoke serious questions as to the possible responsibility lying somewhere, anywhere. You see, in Malta, we are so used to having people NOT assuming any kind of responsibility. Abroad, things are different. Abroad, heads roll and how.

Charles Muscat

Mar 7th, 09:15

Regardless of what one writes cannot bring back his life, after all many
writers are after his family for the loss of their loved one. I have no idea what you're on about.

Deo Catania

Mar 7th, 09:38

Brian Fenech- ghidilna int ghala bini gdid waqa mela ghax qisek bravu hafna.

R Saliba

Mar 7th, 07:54

does there have to be someone responsible whenever a tragedy happens?? It just happened...

Lawrence Fenech

Mar 7th, 08:17

@P. Cutajar.

You are right, there always is.

Carmel Cilia

Mar 7th, 08:51

@R Saliba If an earthquake happens it is just a natural tragedy but when a building collapses it idoes not just happen. Yes someone somewhere did something wrong that person/persons has/have to shoulder responsability. It is just convenient to say it just happened: tell that the victim's family. Also I do not want to point a finger at anyone but I am realising that if a natural disaster happens we are totally unprepared no matter what our a\uthorities say: by the way then also most probably nobody would be held responsible.

B. Storace

Mar 7th, 09:03

Accidents do happen MR. SALIBA but there is always an underlying reason such as carelessness, driving too fast, taking a risk, lack of knowledge, etc, etc.....otherwise it would be called an unfortunate miracle

Deo Catania

Mar 7th, 09:41

R Saliba int taf x'qed tghid?

sharon camilleri

Mar 7th, 10:37

R saliba.... min jaf kieku kien jigi minnhek x'kont tghid?

P. Ciantar

Mar 7th, 14:34

I do not have to reply to R Saliba comment .... all the previous comments said it all

marco caruana

Mar 7th, 08:06

naqbel mieghek habib , hawn Malta kulhadd jaqbad iwaqqa bl addocc u jerga jibni , kulhadd gej ihaffer bil jackhammers magenb residenzi u issa moda gdida ntellghu 'l penthouses bla hadd ma jaghmel assessment tal bini tal madwar .

B. Storace

Mar 7th, 09:07

But irrespective of how it happened it definitely points to human error......but who??????

Alan Attard

Mar 7th, 19:57

@Mr. Borg,

You indicated several points which in your opinion exhonorates the responsible architect. With your same reasoning, you are pointing fingers at others and arriving at conclusions which are attributed to other human beings.

Your peurile excuse to exhonorate the architect because of heavy rainfall is pathethic - as if it nevers rains!

A word from the Gospel

Therefore, everyone who listens to these words of mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on rock.

Rain came down, floods rose, gales blew and hurled themselves against that house, and it did not fall: it was founded on rock.

But everyone who listens to these words of mine and does not act on them will be like a stupid man who built his house on sand.

Rain came down, floods rose, gales blew and struck that house, and it fell; and what a fall it had!'

Dee Williams

Mar 6th, 20:51

@ Steve Sant... I totally agree with you on both points. Also it's only a few weeks till Easter maybe the workers have a target to reach in time for opening....... Hope the dogs find the trapped man and he's ok. If this kind of accident happened in UK the building work would be stopped by Health And Safety until they find the cause of the problem. Come on Malta.... This is supposedly E.U. I pass this way most days as i live in Mellieha and often see the workmen standing on the balconies plastering.... Very Safe i must say!!!!!!!

Clint Cassar

Mar 6th, 21:39

Perfectly said Mr. Sant.

Saying this I would say another thing related to new property.. when you buy a car you want it to be just perfect, right? ... when you buy a new property it would probably be the most expensive thing that you ever buy in your life... so you want it to be more than just perfect.

However unfortunately I must say that it is more probable that your car is 100% perfect than your new property.

The majority of new buildings are not like old buildings, today its just business, money, and more money... the contractor is paid and that's it.. the contractor gets a lump some of money and you'll have all your life paying a loan. ("ahdem ja Gahan Malti").

So since this is called BUSINESS, the contractor is not going to care about the quality of the building, materials used, weatherproofing, insulation, etc... the cheaper the better (more profit in wallet).

So lets get to the point... How safe are all the new buildings? What would happen if these collapse? Who is responsible? What about the 10 year guarantee for new buildings? (I think its 10 years)..

The guarantee is all nonsense. Speaking from experience, I have a new property, I had problems, I have more problems.. but you have a choice... you either fork out money to a lawyer, sending letters, wasting time & money, etc.. and maybe one day you'll win your case (but there's no guarantee.. even if you're right.. cause its Malta)... or else just do the work yourself since it probably will cost you the same!

Of course I am not saying that all contractors are the same definitely, and as I said I am only speaking from my experience.

Mrs Mary Fisher

Mar 6th, 20:23

COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE IVAN. THE BEAUTY OF MELLIEHA BAY HAS BEEN SPOILT COMPLETELY BY THIS MONSTROSITY. WHO ON EARTH SANCTIONED SUCH A HUGE PROJECT?

Astrid Vella

Mar 6th, 20:40

This project violated no less than SIX pages of MEPA regulations.

Astrid Vella

Mar 6th, 21:04


Ivan and Mary, are you sitting down? I just checked the MEPA website. The Seabank hotel have actually applied to expand the monster:

PA/04689/10; Seabank Hotel & Adjacent Site, Triq Il-Marfa, Mellieha, Malta

Description of works: Additions and alterations to approved PA 0720/05, internal alterations and EXTENSION of existing Seabank Hotel and ancillary facilities with underlying car park.

R. Saliba

Mar 6th, 22:46

A man is buried in this tragedy, and Astrid comments about permits. Have you no heart?

Mr John Borg

Mar 6th, 23:12

A clear case of lack of social responsibility and sustainable development.

Bye bye environment, bye bye natural habitats. Sadly what has been lost now, can never be returned to its natural beauty.

Ivan Calleja

Mar 6th, 23:20

We have reached the very bottom in this country where illegal development and corrupt issuing of building permits is concerned!! I really really wish that MEPA is simply flattened out, sooner rather than later, because its a huge shame to this country!! The applications that stink have become simply too much now and the authorities are acting as if this was the order of the day! What do you call this if not blatant corruption?

O GALEA

Mar 7th, 10:13

@ R.SALIBA.... it is EXACTLY BECAUSE SHE DOES HAVE A HEART... that Astrid is mentioning this development.
Certain developers do not give a crap about the health and safety of workers so long as the monster is fed and growing.

Ivan Calleja

Mar 7th, 13:54

Get a life Saliba.....if only you had 1% of Astrid's social and environmental responsibility that would make you a great man!

D Borg

Mar 6th, 21:09

well said

Alfred Cassar

Mar 6th, 21:30

Tal-misthija Mr Galea, mhux ahjar tghid talba zghira ghal dan il-povru haddiem, minflok taghmel talba ghall-voti. Shame

Ivan Calleja

Mar 6th, 23:24

Maybe you are right Mr. Galea but unfortunately AD is doing very little to get the attention needed!! some people ask if AD is still alive and rightly enough since they are seldom given any coverage. Im not downgrading the party because its ideals are good but it needs lots and lots of exposure otherwise it will never make it!

Joseph Calleja

Mar 6th, 18:47

I agree with you 100%. The problem is that a lot of times, things like this manage to get swept under the carpet. Like everything else does in Malta. People seem to forget very quickly and everything is carried out like nothing ever happened. Business as usual. Maybe that is why people are showing so much frustration?

Freda Harris

Mar 6th, 19:21

Whilst I agree with you over the matters of permit and working practice I have to state that experience has shown bad practice by both developers, contractors and sub contractors resulting in poor quality construction which does little to attract purchasers to Malta. Now that the halcyon days of "buy on plan" are largely over the time has come to concentrate on such issues as proper planning, staff training and customer satisfaction in order to create a better construction industry and best avoid similar problems.

Paolo Bugeja

Mar 6th, 22:57

@ Franco Buttigieg. Unfortunately I cannot agree with you on this point. Did you know that CE marking is well included in the maltese legislation (because it is mandatory by EU Law) but not implemented because authorities have no clue how to do it or decide not implement it. Do you have any idea why the Building Eurocodes are a mirage far from our shores? Can anyone justify why it is not mandatory to know what is underneath your foundations before building when it is done EVERYWHERE? Geotechnical Investigations are left totally at the discretion of the owner. In other European Country that is deemed negligence and considered a criminal offence. These are not opinions but facts. Blame should not fall on the contractors, developers or architect, as anyone in their shoes would adopt the local proceeds. After all, almost no one wore a seatbelt before the police started issuing fines!

Joseph Calleja

Mar 6th, 18:41

Finally somebody who makes a lot of sense? Hellooooooo, anybody home?

Steve Zammit

Mar 6th, 21:59

I studied this for my maltese o level...one of my favourite poems

but whats the point?? we teach our children and then the bug guys do the opposite....they couldn't care less

R. Caruana

Mar 7th, 06:53

Sfortunatament Malta saret kollha kaxxa hdejn kaxxa, gzira mimlija konkrit abjad li jinqasam maz-zmien u jibdew jixirfu l-problemi fl-istrutturar tal-bini.

Philip Bonello

Mar 6th, 19:24

Why is it that the H&S Authority never prosecutes anyone? On almost all of these big construction sites somebody dies or gets grievously hurt. And yet it seems that no one in particular is responsible for these deaths. Life has become a commodity which we can throw away as long as we reach our goals.

Johann Aquilina

Mar 6th, 22:04

just for your information just this year there is a new Legal Notice regarding fines to issue who break the law. Till now it wasn't an issue of H&S but construction issues. So if you don't know the law shut up like I am going to do because I am not competent like you.....

Sandro Camilleri

Mar 6th, 18:54

that's exactly my point!!!! if you see my comment below!!!!

Mrs Mary Fisher

Mar 6th, 20:32

I WOULD SAY THAT THE ONLY REASON IN BLIND GREED!

William Calleja

Mar 6th, 17:21

Its hard to make an earthquake argument on this island since a catastropic earthquake has yet to happen. There's a strict tendency that people tend to drown more than get covered in earthquake debris.

Alfred Bugeja

Mar 6th, 17:26

No country can handle the effects of an earthquake alone. That is precisely why the European Union sponsors USAR exercises involving different teams coming from various countries.

Besides, only one team of rescuers can work on a site at any time on 8-hour shifts as standard. I would expect the relief team to change those who have been on the site since this morning in the coming hours.

Matthew Montebello

Mar 6th, 17:29

... and your point is?
How about a constructive comment?

Emanuel Muscat

Mar 6th, 17:30

We will all be dead ,anyway:probably you will be the only one searching!

Wally Vella-Zarb

Mar 6th, 17:42

What a load of nonsense!

Bernard J Schranz

Mar 6th, 19:36

In what capacity do you make such a statement Mr. Damato?
The only obvious conclusion one gets from your comment is not related in any way to how this accident could have happened, what steps should be taken to avoid a similar occurrence or the wellbeing of the people involved including that of the missing worker but that you have something personal for the Director, whoever he is really cos I do not even know him.

The CPD has been offereing a sterling service to the Maltese public for years on end, its volunteers risking life and limb to assist others, many times with great peril to their own lives.

Comments like yours are utterly insensitive and insensible particularly at this time when a human life is at stake. Perhaps if you had to give a thought to this reality, then it might have been better... at least it would have been slightly constructive.

K. Vella II

Mar 7th, 01:06

Well, to be fair, if a disaster of such magnitude were to happen, we'd all be gone in one full swoop. I'd also imagine the Italian rescue corps would have already taken to their helicopters and started their way to Malta. This is how these things work.

Noel Damato

Mar 7th, 07:27

Mr Schranz - Ask full timers and volunteers about their Personal protective equipment? These people risk their lives with SECOND hand equipment to save other peoples lives as you well said. But who will protect these people.

Anthony Spiteri

Mar 6th, 17:40

Besides the Health & Safety Authority mentioned, we have loads of 'Authorities' in Malta. The QUESTION is - 'Do any of them do anything useful? Take the Transport Authority - just look at our roads repair and construction programme. They take ages to start a job and even more to finish it. Just look at the rediculous speed limits on our roads - 35 km/h on the main road to Rabat. Yes a Shetland pony in front of my car was actually going faster. The Regional Road - a main artery with a 45 km/h speed limit. This is just one of our 'Authorities' who actually hinder instead of create and are costing us citizens Millions. And what about public transport. The guy who ruined the transport system got hundreds of thousands and although supposedly reorganised, it's still a shambles and with rediculous routes. This is just one 'Authority' that the country would be better off without. Secondary school students can definitely do a better job.

anthony bartolo

Mar 6th, 23:42

Loads of distractive nonsense with the same political touch.

Melody SantAngelo

Mar 7th, 09:57

That establishment does not form part of the hotel!

Mr Michael Debono

Mar 6th, 17:53

Yes they should look at everything and not throw all responsibility on one person. If a structure is built on rocks which later crumbles who should take the blame?

Franco Attard Trevisan

Mar 6th, 18:27

This is (for once!) not a health and safety issue but a structural one

Tony Sciberras

Mar 6th, 17:21

I agree totally with you. It seems these contractors can do what they what and get away with it. They should be the only ones who vote next election then. This goes to both sides.

Johann Aquilina

Mar 6th, 17:18

Do you think that OHSA could avoid this structural collition or the assesement should have been done by the architect him self before removing the shuttering????

I agree with you that in Malta we need to do much more improvment. we are like 20 year back dated on the system that we are trying to copy from HSE.

Mr Michael Debono

Mar 6th, 17:04

Archiects know that they are responsible for a building for sopme 20 years. This responsibility must be tken inro account when pricing.

Cornelius Murphy

Mar 6th, 20:42

Are architects required by law to have insurance cover for such an eventuality?

Melody SantAngelo

Mar 6th, 16:13

A large number of families earn their daily bread solely from working at this hotel - don't you feel sorry for them if the hotel's doors remain closed?

Emma Xerri

Mar 6th, 17:17

Steve I agree completely.

The Maltese have a penchant for taking over new land and destroying it forever with hideous concrete. Hotel owners in Malta also would rather not pay for the proper upkeep or refurbishment of the original buildings but prefer to spend the money on additions and extensions. One such hotel I visited recently which I remember when it was in its prime had smelly and stained carpet in the foyer and a general look of neglect, very sad indeed. And the only reason it probably didn't have an extension in the process of construction was because the land around it was already taken up by other hotels.

I think construction has completly ruined the island.

O GALEA

Mar 6th, 17:22

@ Melody... That wouldn't be your attitude if your son was buried under there. The hotel was fine as it was... and just needed sprucing up. But enough (money) is never enough hux ....
Remember tourists want a relaxing holiday in Malta. Sun, Sea, Scenery. If we continue with all this building, they'll just start going some place else .... and hotels will start closing down.

Peter Murray

Mar 6th, 17:29

So MELODY ITS OK TO LET A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE REMAIN OPEN SO AS NOT TO DISRUPT THE STAFF WORKING THERE IS IT?What about the missing worker not earning his bread anymore-possibly forever-and his family?

Steve Zammit

Mar 6th, 22:01

Melody let them work there so what, I'm against the extension of the hotel not the hotel itself....then everyone will complain when those beds remain empty....all we do is EXPAND and BUILD ... MORE BIGGER....$$$$$$

Never happy with what we have, l-aqwa nibnu u neqirdu il-ftit hdura li baqalna

Melody SantAngelo

Mar 7th, 09:53

Life goes on, a notion which you lot are not grasping yet. If the hotel remains unfinished for longer than expected, livelihood for lots of families might be in jeopardy -something you seem not to care about after reading your comments. My condolences to the relatives and friends of the departed.

O GALEA

Mar 7th, 11:04

@Melody.

You do not seem to grasp the basic concept that a HUMAN LIFE is worth more than a 100 jobs........

HEALTH AND SAFETY of workers, and eventually of the residents, comes before any job !

Peter Murray

Mar 6th, 17:31

Very constructive input Karl which greatly alleviates the problem.So besides recognising all this jumpimg and passing what is your solution?

Mr Michael Debono

Mar 6th, 17:13

It is thought that the most sorry for what happened is the architect. He is afterall a human being who has feelings and surely no one is more eager to find alive the missing worker. Could it be the ground on which thedome was constructed that was defective and caused the accident

Astrid Vella

Mar 6th, 20:50


Mr. Debono, that is exactly why any serious architect of such a project would carry out extensive geological studies before starting a project of this size. Yours is no excuse at all.

Kleaven Maniscalco

Mar 7th, 01:18

"Domes can easily buckle". What do you mean by this?

C Galea

Mar 7th, 17:54

@ kleavan maniscalco

Sorry..forget the 'easily'. Just take the word as a generic meaning or as a manner of speaking.

What I wanted to say is that there are many factors why domes can fail. Although they are called the queens of roofs, their stability is owned to their curved, continuous shape. And although they cannot be considered as the strongest of structures especially against gravitational loading, they can be very rigid if all mechanics are well calculated, worked and uniformly synchronized together. For example extreme change in the inner temperature can cause over or under inflation of the dome and then eventual collapse. So can settlement, over weight, mistakes in design, construction techniques and so on.

The historical queens are clear proof of such excellent synchronizing, even though the old masters were still puerile on mathematics and sciences. Our own Lorenzo Gafa pioneered in these elements.

But fortunately these incidents are not very common and hopefully the experts shall learn what happened in this case..

And now they have found the poor lad. God save his soul and condolences to his family.

michael southgate

Mar 6th, 18:43

NOT NECESSARILY. IN HOT WEATHER IT CAN DRY OUT BEFORE IT "CURES" ... IT "CURES"BETTER IN MORE HUMID CONDITIONS. BUT, YOU NEED SEVERAL WEEKS FOR IT TO OBTAIN A "WORKING" STRENGTH.

Mr Michael Debono

Mar 6th, 16:46

Min qallek?

S Vella

Mar 7th, 12:59

@ Mr M Debono
Forsi s-sens komun?
Jew l-ahbar li f'Mejju l-lukanda kellha tilqa n-nies ovvjament mhux "Under construction"?
Jew forsi r-ritmu maghggel li bih kien ghaddej ix-xoghol lejl u nahar biex ilahhaq mad data tant vicin?
Tant xoghol differenti ghaddej f'salt u tant haddiema jahdmu fuq xulxin.....?
Gara x'gara hasra li ntilfet hajja ohra fuq il post tax-xoghol....
Kondoljanzi lil familjari ta dan il haddiem li tilef hajtu u lil hbieb tieghu.

Mr Michael Debono

Mar 6th, 15:47

Ms Borg are you an expert in architecture If your garden develops a hole then all your strufture must be defective. Quicklyget out of it for you are in danger.But quickly do it

Joseph Calleja

Mar 6th, 18:26

Ms Borg, Mr Debono seems to be very sensitive to the fact that both of us brought up the possibility that the collapse might have happened because we both mentioned the possibility of an architectural or a material flaw. Not so far fetched. It seems, Mr Debono is an expert and only he is entitled to express an opinion.

cesco di luigi

Mar 6th, 16:56

MEPA is more ineterested (attaparsi) in fresh water crabs than in old people Astrid!!

O GALEA

Mar 6th, 17:16

.... and I am living with such a Damocles Sword at the moment.... But i cannot afford to go to court. The "contractor" who bought the top floor apartment proposed to buy me out.... But with the money he offered I cannot buy an apartment similar to mine. I don't want money... I want somewhere to live... IN PEACE.


PS... i hope they find this poor man soonest

Emma Xerri

Mar 6th, 17:22

Every wonder how many building would collapse if there is ever any earthquake of any substance?

Caroline J. Muscat

Mar 6th, 14:47

... i think you meant "shoddy" ...

Mr Michael Debono

Mar 6th, 16:03

Are/nt you in a hurry to suspect all the building to be in danger. the underground could be the cause and when inspected it was given the O.K. A person who frequented the site said clearly that the car park used to develope water leakages, it could be the cause of the accident. Wait for developments before you decide what should be done.

Joseph Calleja

Mar 6th, 18:10

Thank you Caroline, you are right, I apologize it is a typo.
@ Mr Debono, I am not an engineer or an architect and I am not insinuating anything except that an investigation should follow, which is mandatory in such cases. It seems like you are the one jumping to conclusions about what might have caused the collapse. It seems that you might have an agenda to follow?

Melody SantAngelo

Mar 6th, 16:04

The people you mentioned - "l'inginier u il-perit ta' dan il-progett, il kuntrattur u sid il-propjeta" - are mostly, if not always, on site.

Giov DeMartino

Mar 6th, 18:33

il-bierah stess l-IItalja waqa' palk li kienu qed jippreparaw ghal xi kuncert ta' Laura Pausini.

Alfred Grech

Mar 6th, 22:48

Giovanni, dak il-palk bnewh in-Nazzjonalisti ;))

Ms.D. Galea

Mar 7th, 00:38

@Ms Sant Angelo

dont bet on it!

Giov DeMartino

Mar 7th, 09:08

Alfred Grech ghandu ragun. Mela hawn ghandna xi haga li ma bnewhiex in-nazzjonalisti?

Melody SantAngelo

Mar 7th, 09:39

@Ms.D. Galea

Don't need bets, I am there almost every day too - so unless you can prove otherwise I would suggest you zip it.

Mr Michael Debono

Mar 6th, 17:30

You are already throwing doubt on the ability of the architect regarding the whole building. Are you an expert in architecture. The cause could be indepedent of the architect. Look somewhere else. A contributor already referred to the car parkthat that leaked water. What happened at the base is reflected immediately on the summit.That's because the unit is built according to regulations.

B Attard

Mar 6th, 12:43

An enquiry will take place as usual then after a decade there will be the conclusion.

Kurt Mifsud

Mar 6th, 13:01

You're so wise Mr Borg. Try to explain this to the victims' families and relatives!

Thank you for cutting me off only one leg instead of two!!! Wth???

Ms.D. Galea

Mar 6th, 14:04

I hope that the developer, the contractor and the insurance agencies are equally worried AS WELL.

S Farrugia

Mar 6th, 12:18

totally agree on this one :)))

Jason Borg

Mar 6th, 12:35

I agree aswell

A. Xuereb

Mar 6th, 13:20

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps the people 'jumping to conclusions' are knowlegable about the subject in question? Or would you like them to put their university degrees after their names so that everyone can then identify them?

Kurt Mifsud

Mar 6th, 14:05

Mr Xuereb - It was a graduate who signed the health & safety inspection sheets as well, most probably an engineer. Did this occur to you?

Ms Maria Vella

Mar 6th, 14:31

A. Xuereb

I think Kurt Mifsud answered you correctly, so not going to bother

A. Xuereb

Mar 6th, 22:25

As usual you missed the wood for the trees.

A. Xuereb

Mar 6th, 22:26

@ Kurt mifsud: I wouldn't know

William Calleja

Mar 6th, 11:50

While I'm quite sure that OHSA standards have not been followed as is usually the case in most local workplaces, this is a case where OHSA wouldn't have impacted much. When a large structure collapses there is no health and safety regulation that can avoid fatalities or severe injuries.

Kristin Ciantar

Mar 6th, 12:13

Ma nahsibx li tal HEALTH & SAFETY ghandhom x jaqsmu, se jaghmlu ha jmorru jzommu l bini.

Philip Hili

Mar 6th, 12:27

@ Kristin Ciantar

Bl-istess argument tieghek allura OHSA imissa lanqas giet imwaqqfa!!

"se jaghmlu ha jmorru jzommu l bini." Le ma jzommux il-bini, izda jekk kien hemm xi abbuz u forsi xi nuqqas waqt ix-xoghol, tal-OHSA jigbdu l-attenzjoni tal-Perit/i inkargat/i u forsi d-dizgrazzja tigi evitata.

F Galea

Mar 6th, 12:41

It's probably a miscalculation of the structures by the architects. It is not an issue with health and safety...

Michel Ellul

Mar 6th, 12:47

@ Philip Hili,

sewwa qal Kristian Ciantar....dan hu rizultat ta zewgt fatturi, jew il-perit ma ghamilx il-kalkoli sewwa, jew inkella xi hadd ma esegwiex il-proceduri tal- perit.

Kristin Ciantar

Mar 6th, 12:55

Well said F.Galea, thats what I meant , ghax alla jbierek kull hadd bravu u jifhem f kollox .

Victor Laiviera

Mar 6th, 12:58

This is not a question of health and safety, but supervision of good practices in construction . The architect/civil engineer's job.

Ms.D. Galea

Mar 6th, 14:08

SUR BUSUTTI,
il health and safety ma ghandhomx x jaqsmu ma bicca xoghol hekk .
Din hi kwestjoni tal-izviluppatur, il-kuntrattur u il-materjal u prattika li intuzaw waqt il-kostruzzjoni, and most of all, il-perit / architectural ingineer.

G. Abela

Mar 6th, 14:49

This has nothing to do with H&SE but with Quality Assurance and Contol. Who and how was the steel rebar checked. How was the wieght calculated. The type of concrete mix used, whether the concrete pour was approved by the Civil Engineer (mhux il-perit normali) or not. Were the foundations calculated to take the load of the structure?

All these factors will be investigated as these are not just the doing of one man but of several companies co-ordinating the site work together.

Kevin Mifsud

Mar 6th, 11:39

yes,,very sad.....may God help with the undergoing help...

Martin Saliba

Mar 6th, 19:05

So true Bernice the building means so much unlike the life that was probably lost.

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