Child abuse: Mgr Scicluna calls for accountability
Mgr Charles Scicluna, the Vatican's top prosecutor, has called for stricter accountability for bishops who cover up child abuse crimes and said 1,000 cases had been reported to him in the past two years alone.
"Ecclesial accountability has to be further developed. How do you sanction a bishop? That is something that Canon law reserves for the pope personally," Mgr Scicluna said on the sidelines of a Vatican summit on the issue.
"Once you set standards you have to respect them. It would certainly be the responsibility of the pope and the Holy See," he said. He added that he believed a "culture of silence" on the issue of abuse persisted in the Church.
Mgr Scicluna said his office at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Catholic Church's top enforcement body, had received more than 4,000 reports of child abuse since 2001 including 1,000 since 2009.
He said most of the cases dated back decades and that many of the most recent reports had been from Europe, while there had been a gradual decline in the United States following the putting in place of strict rules by the Church.
Asked about requests for damages from the Church, Scicluna said it was up to civil courts, adding: "A priest is liable for the damages. The principle is: 'If I break something I pay for it. A priest is not ordained to harm people."
Mgr Scicluna said Church laws against abuse had been bolstered by the late Pope John Paul II and his successor Benedict XVI, including an increase in the statute of limitations on paedophile crimes to 20 years after the victim turns 18.
"The law may indeed be clear. But this is not enough for peace and order in the community. Our people need to know that the law is being applied," he said.
He also stressed that the Catholic Church was now committed to working with local law enforcement -- a frequent criticism from abuse victims' groups.
Pope Benedict XVI launched the unprecedented four-day Vatican summit on Monday with a call for "profound renewal of the Church at every level" and for "a vigorous culture of effective safeguarding and victim support."
The meeting brings together 100 representatives of national bishops' conferences and the leaders of 33 religious orders as well as abuse victim Marie Collins, a leading voice in pushing for justice for victims in Ireland.
Several victims' groups however have dismissed the conference at the Vatican's Gregorian University as a public relations exercise and say the Church has not done enough to punish those responsible for cover-ups.
At a special penitential church service on the sidelines of the conference on Tuesday, Church leaders asked God for forgiveness.
"We have sinned. We did not know how to listen to the pain of so many innocent ones," one of the bishops taking part in the service said.
"We are aware that our acts of reparation can never erase the unjust things we have done or soothe the searing wound of our consciousness," he said.
Collins recounted her abuse in horrifying detail and told the conference that apologies were not enough, saying: "There must be acknowledgement and accountability for the harm and destruction that has been done."
Collins said she was abused by a priest in Dublin when she was just 13.
"Those fingers that would abuse my body the night before were the next morning holding and offering me the sacred host," said the 64-year-old.
The Catholic Church has been rocked over the past decade by thousands of abuse scandals in Europe and the United States, which have shown up systematic cover-ups of known abusers by the Catholic hierarchy going back decades.
The Vatican summit also aims to encourage countries where many Church abuses remain hidden, such as in Africa, Asia and Latin America, to learn from places like the United States where more stringent practices are enforced.
The Vatican has requested that national bishops' conferences submit strict guidelines by May on how they plan to root out child abuse but campaigners warn that this is not enough as there is no real power to enforce these rules.
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Louise Vella
Feb 9th, 16:20
“He added that he believed a "culture of silence" on the issue of abuse persisted in the Church”. Would Mgr Scicluna say that this “culture of silence”, better known as “omerta`”, also exists in the Maltese Church?
The public has a right to know what went on behind the scenes in the Maltese Curia and how the Maltese bishops dealt with priest child rapists and molesters. We have to look at the stark ugly truth. Did Maltese bishops, like other bishops abroad, shuttle around abusive priests known to them to unsuspecting parishes? The Maltese bishops should tell the Maltese public what they know, when they knew it and what they did about it. Most significantly, with the whole truth told, they could then clearly tell us what they are going to do about it now.
Joe Xuereb
Feb 9th, 15:44
@Joseph Aquilina. You are right. Apart from monetary recompense the abused need long and painful psychotherapy. Except that, if the practitioner were to be a 'believer', and s/he applied this to the work done, the client will never get better. Effective therapy is about searing truth and not convenient suppositions.
Joe Xuereb
Feb 9th, 15:15
Quote: "We are aware that our acts of reparation CAN NEVER ERASE the unjust things we have done or soothe the searing wound of our consciousness," he said'. cAN NEVER ERASE is a serious admission on his part. Never mind the physical damage, if a young boy or girl is instructed to have faith to save their souls, and then possibly from the very same mouth comes the abuse and hence the mother of all scandal because it involves one's investment in eternity - who does a child turn to?
Another one said. Quote: "We have sinned. We did not know how to listen to the pain of so many innocent ones," one of the bishops taking part in the service said. Convince me! These are the same people who are quick to point out that human sexuality is sinful, unless...... Well, do they understand the implications of the sexual act (as in a very serious business for, mishandled, it can make or break a person. Casualties abound) or do they not? So, they did not know?! Convince me!
Mario Farrugia
Feb 9th, 14:01
Monsignor Charles Sciclua is yet another worthy son of this nation, one who should make us all proud. May he succeedes in all his worthy efforts.
Michael Camileri
Feb 9th, 13:54
Well done Charles! I hope you succeed.
Why are there not, or why does there not seem to be other people in the institution like Mgr Scicluna? Since they need to clear the name of the church somehow... no-one seems to be making any effort.
And you wonder why people hate this institution? Including me...
Joseph Aquilina
Feb 9th, 15:31
"Including me..."
Why? The Church also includes people (and these number much more than those who did any abuses) who help others all round the world. People who are ready to go in foreign countries to help those who are hungry, sick, and homeless. There is a lot of good in the Church, but some prefer to only to see the negative done by the very few within it. You should build your opinion on the Church by considering every aspect of this institution, rather than just the negative aspects reported in the media.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 13:46
One thing's sure and certain. Thanks to Mons Scicluna, the heat is off Lawrence Gonzi and Franco Debono today.
Louise Vella
Feb 9th, 13:11
“He added that he believed a "culture of silence" on the issue of abuse persisted in the Church”. Would Mgr Scicluna say that this “culture of silence”, also known as “omerta`”, also exists in the Maltese Church?
The public has a right to know what went on behind the scenes in the Maltese Curia and how the Maltese bishops dealt with priest child rapists and molesters. We have to look at the stark ugly truth. Did Maltese bishops, like other bishops abroad, shuttle around abusive priests known to them to unsuspecting parishes?
The Maltese bishops should tell the Maltese public what they know, when they knew it and what they did about it. Most significantly, with the whole truth told, they could then credibly and clearly tell us what they are going to do about it now.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 12:55
The word "Reward" used by Francis Saliba in this context is a "Dysphemism" not a "Euphemism". The exact opposite.
Charles W. Sammut
Feb 9th, 14:12
I think that in his enthusiasm to defend his Holy Mother Church, he confused reward with award.
When someone needs to be compensated for an injustice, he is awarded damages, not rewarded. When someone is 'awarded' it is usually against the wishes of one party. 'Reward' on the other hand is by mutual consent.
Louise Vella
Feb 9th, 12:30
“He also stressed that the Catholic Church was now committed to working with local law enforcement”.
We must not forget that now mandatory reporting of child abuse is law in Malta (thanks to the recent law introduced by Minister Carmelo Mifsud Bonnici). So when is the Maltese curia handing over the files of abusive priests hidden in its secret archives to the commissioner of police? What is keeping the police commissioner from ordering Archbishop Cremona to hand over these files?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 10th, 15:28
What keeps the Commissioner of Police "from ordering Archbishop Cremona to hand over these files" is the fact that he knows his job better than you do and that he is not a puppet hanging on the string of an inveterate and blinkered priest-hater.
Peter Shaw
Feb 9th, 11:42
If God really existed he would strike the offenders with a lightning bolt!
Ms Maria Vella
Feb 9th, 12:01
Yawn
Franco Farrugia
Feb 9th, 12:38
God does not work the way we would portray him to do. THAT is the main problem with religions.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 11:20
Congratulations to Francis Saliba.
His calling compensation a "reward" has hit rock bottom just under Anton Gauci's parenthesis for "child" and "abuse".
Anyone calling compensation a "fee for service" would pip Saliba in the reprehensibility stakes.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 9th, 11:43
@ William P Flynn.
The Oxford Dictionary defines "reward" as a "recompense" - that is enough satisfaction for me, much more so than your insignificant "congratulations" or your "reprehensibility stakes".
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 12:42
Francis Saliba
Wakey wakey. Do keep up will you? But you didn't say "recompense". You said "reward". We all know what you mean in this context and in the context "reward" is inappropriate demeaning and reprehensible. The prime meaning of reward is "something given or received in return for a deed or service rendered". And you know it. Disgusting!
If you like I'll prove to you black is white using the dictionary. Here it is:
Black is dark.
Dark is obscure.
Obscure is dim.
Dim is pale.
Pale is white.
Ergo Black is White.
If you need me to slow down for you to catch up, I shall.
Henry Samut
Feb 9th, 10:56
@Patrick Zammit
As you suggest, road accidents of a few do not deter you and others in their millions from driving!
@ William Flynn
No argument... just stating facts
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 11:24
And of course, the people who cause the accidents have to make financial restitution, sometimes lose their lecense and face the courts and go to prison if the accident is serious enough.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 10:41
I see that Mons Scicluna hasn't put "child" an "abuse" in parenthesis like Mons Anton Gauci l-Għawdxi does so reprehensibly.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 09:45
Too right it has to be monetary compensation/reparations; that's what Scicluna is saying and that's what happened everywhere else on earth and that's the way the civil law of tort works.
The Canon Law on the other hand works on a confession, a few hail Marys and off the rapist priest goes to some other posting so he can do it over again. If he is caught in Malta, it takes close on a decade to go through the courts and the appeal process can go on for ever.
Who do the bishops thinks they’re fooling? Another day, another day closer to impeachment.
One bishop has already been impeached.
A Jackson County, Kansas USA, judge set a September 24th date for the trial of Bishop Robert Finn and the Catholic diocese in the case of whether they failed to report suspected child sex abuse to authorities.
Joseph Aquilina
Feb 9th, 10:28
William Flynn, it is clear you do not comment with reason but comment out of hate. You see all evil in the Church but fail to recognize the amount of Good this institution has done throughout its long history not only in Malta but also in other countries. You fail to recognize the amount of good this institution is still doing in countries third world countries and on local level with people who are emarginated for some reason or another. William Flynn it is easy to point your finger and it is easy to talk about the bad stuff, which mind you, an institution with involves millions of millions of people will surely have some. The Maltese Church did not protect the priests involved, it helped the police and was (and still is) ready to help the victims (which unfortunately seem to easily forget what happened to them with some money). No Maltese court or EU court will find the Maltese Church as guilty since guilty it is not. The priests – as individuals – are guilty, but the Church is not.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 10:55
Joseph Aquilina, don't write rubbish. No one, not even all the high level Monsignors attending this conference is talking about the good members of the church obviously do. That tack hasn’t worked as they now know that all the good in the world does not heal a raped child’s heart and his parents’.
Today the subject is their culpability, their criminal negligence and their lack of accountability.
Do try to be intelligent and stay on the subject, please. Or do you perchance think my comments are what caused the child rapes and the criminality of the bishops and the Vatican in concealing them?
Joseph Aquilina
Feb 9th, 11:49
"perchance think my comments are what caused the child rapes and the criminality"
Did I say that? No right? Then why write that? Maybe simply because all you care is putting everyone apart yourself in a bad light? I said once and many times, abuses are to be condemned. Indeed such abuses where condemned by the Church. However profiteering - as you wish to happen in this case - is not the way forward and nor is fair considering that the Church in Malta has reported and collaborated with the police.
Also why do you want the Church to pay millions if "all the good in the world does not heal a raped child"? Wouldn't it be better to provide these raped children (now adults) with the psychological help they claimed they needed?
Charles W. Sammut
Feb 9th, 13:37
@Joseph Aquilina
OH dear me, it's "profiteering" now!
Next you will be quoting the Bishop of Tenerife who came up with an interesting explanation for paedophilia, They asked for it. Children want to be abused.
http://www.sodahead.com/living/catholic-bishop-children-want-to-be-sexually-abused/question-2411199/
What shameless ~#@%$^&.
Joseph Aquilina
Feb 9th, 14:32
@Charles W. Sammut
Again you are doing the same thing as William Flynn; trying (and failing miserably that is) to put words in other's people mouth! Also it seems you take special care to decide what you will quote in the hope to put a bad light on the Roman Catholic Church.
The Bishop of Tenerife said “There are adolescents of thirteen years of age who are minors and are totally in agreement and furthermore desire it. Even if you take care they provoke you” - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_%C3%81lvarez_Afonso.
He never said that those who abused children did something good; he never said that he is happy with what happened to abused children. A newspaper took him out of context in the same way you are trying to do.
You can realize the article you linked to is biased by the simple fact that it does not even contain the real words of The Bishop of Tenerife. However any article is good enough as long as it is against the Church right?
donald borg
Feb 9th, 09:44
The devil is really the Prince of this world. The devil entered our homes thru' TV and Internet but the devil is enjoying the attacks on priests. I condemn those priests who commit abuses but let us be grateful to those good priests who sacrificed their lives for the good of the people. It is a pity that a priest representing Christ take advantage of his position but I understand that we all have a skeleton in the cupboard as we are all sinners. We are all accountable for our actions and we must pay for the sins commited. Let us not lose faith in God because of a few priests who are doing an excellent service to the devil. We all have individual responsibility to live a good life according to JESUS CHRIST teaching. Praise be to God
Henry Samut
Feb 9th, 09:35
I attended a Jesuit's college and was an alter boy at Stella Maris Sliema. I can categorically say that I received a good education and a very happy childhood....
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 09:52
And your argument is? What? Let's celebrate the fact that not each and every priest and brother wasn't a child rapist like the one who raped Marie Collins and then gave her the holy wafer the following morning?
Well, whoopee doo! Hooray for you.
Patrick Zammit
Feb 9th, 10:09
I have driven a car many times in the UK and never had an accident.
That does not mean that drivers do not die on the UK's roads.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 09:24
1000 child rapist priests world wide? That would be the tip of the iceberg.
Alexander Farrugia
Feb 9th, 10:16
1000 reports does not mean 1000 child rapist priests. Some priests could well have received several reports.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 11:06
No! In this context it's 1000 priests who may each have committed hundreds if not thousands of known and unknown rapes.
Usually people don't have sex once and these people are conditioned by their long term struggle to be celibate so that, when the sex genie escapes, their psychological conditioning tends to make them treat children as their sexual peers.
These high ranking clerics didn’t meet to put any spin on what’s happened and neither should you. These are enormous numbers whichever way you look at them and child rape would have been going on for centuries.
The Vatican is trying to deal with this fact and so should you; instead, even now, you’re trying to mitigate this enormous criminal scandal.
Joseph Aquilina
Feb 9th, 14:01
@William Flynn
By nature of things people file a report and some institution (usually in this case the state) investigates if the files report is factual or not. Obviously such a distinction is not obvious with your framework of hate logic. Also as someone else has already stated, two or more reports could be filed on the same case by different people.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 9th, 15:42
The cases of abhorrent child sex abuse by adults, worse still by adults who have been entrusted with the care of minors, must run into untold millions. Judging from my experience as a family doctor very few families would pretend truthfully not to have been affected at some time or another.
What I find so obscene and so hypocritical is the discriminatory attacks singling out Catholic priests and by association the whole Catholic community, by notorious and easily identifiable priest-haters who turn a blind eye to the more numerous child abusers from other occupations and, stlll worse, the much more rampant sex abuse of minors by members of their own family.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 9th, 09:11
The Malta diocese (not just the guilty priests) accepted accountability for the repair of any "damage" to the victims when it offered to meet the expenses for necessary treatment. The victims are demanding something else. They want to trade any sexual abuse they had suffered for a monetary reward.
Charles W. Sammut
Feb 9th, 09:34
What you euphemistically call "monetary reward" is in fact just reparation. It is hardly a new concept. After WW II 'Holocaust Survivors' were awarded billions in compensation for physical,moral suffering and material losses.
You should be ashamed to call it "monetary reward". Is that what you would consider it to be if someone rapes your daughter or son? Your statement is just a polite way of calling them prostitutes.
Patrick Zammit
Feb 9th, 09:44
Trade is involved when one has an asset and wants to exchange it for another asset. Assets can be either money or goods.
Innocent victims of the Church hierarchy which covers up the evil acts of paedophile priests did not ask to be abused (or for the abusing priests to be protected by the Church) but became the reluctant and injured party.
Being a victim is not an asset. Is, according to you, a car crash victim who suffered mental/physical injuries a trader if he files for compensation? Only despicable individuals would think so.
As long as the Church does not report cases of abuse to the police, it will continue to be seen as protecting its own interests instead of those of the innocent.
Franco Farrugia
Feb 9th, 09:47
'The victims are demanding something else. They want to trade any sexual abuse they had suffered for a monetary reward.'
That's partially wrong and the way you put it, as usual, is abnoxious! In any civil case where suffering was caused, 'monetary reward' is one of the normal ways included in a judgement. Why should it be different within Church circles? After all, these individuals, albeit acting on their own steam as it were, found themselves in positions of authority when they were sent there BY THE CHURCH and therefore, the Church as an organisation, is partially - not fully, I repeat - responsible and accountable. This respsonsibility and accountability is further fuelled, to my mind, by the silence that, according to Mgr Scicluna, is STILL present in the Church today, as well as by the fact that it has taken so many years in order to bring out the facts and stop the bishops and those responsible from either hushing things up or looking the other way.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 9th, 11:54
@ Charles W Sammut.
"Monetary reward" is a precise (not euphemistic) dictionary synonym for the financial "recompense" being demanded by the victims - do you know what "euphemistic" means?
When someone (a scoutmaster, not a priest) did abuse me as a child, and when someone else did abuse a female child relative, neither I nor my family attempted to trade that child abuse into a financial transcation with the scout movement or anybody else.
I hope that that answers your question clearly.
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Feb 9th, 12:10
If a patient can get compensation from a doctor who might have botched u[p an operation, how much more is a victim of sexual abuse entitled given that he has been abused by someone who pretends to be a minister of God? The Maltese diocese was, is and remains hypocritical so longas it continues to refuse compensation. Payment of medical and other related expences is no compensation. Innocent boys do not 'trade' sexual abuse. They were too young to enter into any kind of bartering. What sort of morality does this Francis MD have? And then you wonder why people become anticlerical with such a hypocritical diocese supported by equally hypocritical fidili. May they all rot in hell.
Franco Farrugia
Feb 9th, 12:37
@ Francis Saliba: Fine! Right! We are now equating the Roman Catholic Church with 'Scouts'!
The mind boggles. But then ....!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 9th, 12:51
@ Franco Farrugia. (9 Feb at 09:47)
Having just quashed your boast in Fr J Borg’s blog that you intend to be insolent in my regard, please excuse me if I ignore your categorising my comment as “abnoxious” (sic) and “partially wrong” without clarifying which part of my comment did not attain your undesired nihil obstat.
Charles W. Sammut
Feb 9th, 13:11
@ Francis Saliba M.D.
It is the prerogative of the victim to demand, or otherwise, reparation for damages suffered.
But if a precedent is set whereby an organisation is held accountable for covering up such despicable crimes, it would serve as a strong deterrent not to do so in the future. So much so that the fact that the Catholic Church has had to pay millions to its victims in other countries has forced it to mend its ways.
I think that your choice of the word "trade" is unfortunate. Trade implies a two way, consensual exchange of goods or services. You give me something and I pay you for it. But if I take something away from you against your will it ceases to be trade. And if that something I take from you cannot be restituted, then how would you expect to be compensated? By prayers?
I hope that these victims do not find justice locally and go the the European Court of Justice where they will get proper justice unshackled by the Church's influence here.
Franco Farrugia
Feb 9th, 14:00
@ Francis Saliba: Once again, you're slipping - perhaps you're in overdrive. I quoted the part which I found 'abnoxious', More than that? ... spoon-feeding.
Joe Fenech
Feb 9th, 08:32
"A priest is liable for the damages."
I would have thought that that was obvious!
Charles W. Sammut
Feb 9th, 09:11
Remember that some of them take a 'vow of poverty' and so they have nothing in their name. Of course, collectively they own a huge chunk of the island having acquired it by promising pie in the sky to ignorant and simple folk.
Franco Farrugia
Feb 9th, 12:42
@ Charles W. Sammut: 'Of course, collectively they own a huge chunk of the island having acquired it by promising pie in the sky to ignorant and simple folk.'
If I were you, I would go through a period of real - but real! - updating and adjourning of the situation before blurting out nonentities in public. Talk about having a chip on the shoulder!
Charles W. Sammut
Feb 9th, 13:20
@ Franco Farrugia
Of course things have changed now. Unfortunately for the Church, people are not so ignorant any more.
But until a few decades ago notaries were given a commission for any property or money bequeathed to the Church in exchange for prayers for the repose of their souls. It was normal for notaries to ask "X'ha thalli ghal ruhek?" when writing out wills. Families have been stripped of their money, jewellery and land when a person on his/her deathbed was coerced to bequeath his/her earthly goods in exchange for a one way, do not pass purgatory, ticket to paradise. We have all heard stories of how even people who had just died had their head nodded to affirm such questions. "Sur nutar qallek IVA."
The chip on my shoulder is huge and is there for very good reason. And I am really restraining myself.
Joseph Aquilina
Feb 9th, 14:15
@Charles W. Sammut
Is it something you heard on a Sunday in the piazza? Do you have any form of proof? If yes go to the police!! If not then do everyone a favor and stop spreading rumors!!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 10th, 09:11
It is obvious, of course, but in this case the damages are not being demanded from the priest - they are being demanded from a Catholic community that condemns the abuse in a most trenchant manner.
Joe Fenech
Feb 10th, 21:21
Francis Saliba
The Church is also a culprit because it closed an eye on these issues and let these people work in its own institutions. Having said this, the Church should not have to shoulder the responsibility of offering social care. That is the state's job.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Feb 11th, 08:45
@ Joe Fenech. (10 Feb at 21:21)
The Church tackled the problem (not with complete success because no one has succeeded so far)) by taking its internal measures to separate the culprits from their victims and by advising the victims to raise the matter with the civil authorities, the police, who would be unable to act in the absence of a specific report. That is not a Church that "closed an eye" to an insoluble problem and which receives publicity only when the clergy are involved. The blinkered anti-clerical bias is all too obvious.
William Flynn
Feb 9th, 08:27
“A priest is liable for the damages. The principle is: 'If I break something I pay for it….”
Mgr Scicluna. But don’t the assets of priests and nuns belong to the church?
Has Mons Scicluna or the pope made a phone call to the two Mons Cremona and Grech? For, if they haven’t, it’s all talk.
The bishops in Malta must pay compensation with what the precedents havebeen overseas; additionally, if they don’t provide the lists of child rapist priests and nuns in their midst, they must be impeached.
No matter how long it takes, these things shall come to pass and the longer the bishops resist, the bigger the damages.
One doesn't need to be Nostradamus to see this coming.
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Feb 9th, 08:19
1000 in the last two years. How shameful! At least the hierarchy is beginning to acknowledge the problem instead of shooting the messengers as it has done in the past.
Mr Kevin Zammit
Feb 9th, 08:18
lill dan zgur ghandna bzonn prim ministru!