Hondoq developers want to remove planned yacht marina
The planning appeal hearing on the €120 million development of a tourist complex in Hondoq Ir-Rummien, due to be held today, was postponed to May to allow Mepa and the developers to give replies over a legal issue.
The legal issue revolves around a fresh set of plans by the developers, who are proposing to remove the planned yacht marina and replace it with a swimming lagoon.
Mepa had refused to accept the amendments, saying these needed to be submitted under a new application.
On hearing this, the developers appealed.
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C Galea
Feb 1st, 19:37
@ Kleaven Maniscalco
I am talking plain and simple english and will re submit my question for you again
CAN THEY APPLY TO SANCTION ? this is simply plain english for you to understand.
All the amendment that I know of, were all of them to enlarge Comprendi
Now that you said that you worked on the new plans ,is it true that even the car park is shifted somewhere else .Where??
C Galea
Feb 1st, 19:37
@ Kleaven Maniscalco
I am talking plain and simple english and will re submit my question for you again
CAN THEY APPLY TO SANCTION ? this is simply plain english for you to understand.
All the amendment that I know of, were all of them to enlarge Comprendi
Now that you said that you worked on the new plans ,is it true that even the car park is shifted somewhere else .Where??
Ms D. Borg
Feb 1st, 08:06
MEPA should refuse this application once and for all. Hondoq is a natural gem, please don't destroy it!
Joanne pace
Feb 1st, 07:55
WAITING FOR THE OUTCOME OF "EARLY ELECTIONS"..........????????
C Galea
Feb 1st, 07:35
@ Kleaven Maniscalco so can you exactly explain to all of us if my comment further down is true or not??
That is
CAN THEY APPLY TO SANCTION ? this is simply plain english for you to understand
Kleaven Maniscalco
Feb 1st, 13:48
If it is approved as a lagoon and it is built as a marina, then mepa will put an enforcement on it, which will hold up that part of the application. And I very much doubt it that mepa will ever sanction such thing because it has a lot of implications.....and there is a lot of controversy involved.
But if the depth of the lagoon is kept shallow, which it is at the moment, then physically it cannot be used as a marina.....so mepa through a depth restriction would have resolved the issue that such thing as you mentioned happens.
John Azzopoardi
Feb 1st, 00:54
Gozo needs investment opportunities. And this is one of them. Where are Gozitans going to work if we keep arguing against this kind of project that will generate hundreds if not thousands of jobs that we badly need. Gozo needs tourism and we are not getting. There must be a bigger agenda by the Maltese against Gozitans. That is to keep all tourist for themselves.
C Galea
Feb 1st, 10:21
I am sorry but you have got it all wrong!
What work is this project going to create? Yes there will be some work in construction for the first couple of years (and I bet you most of the workers will not be gozitans) and then what thousands of jobs are going to be created? As cleaners and maintenance? Because in the end it will only be flats and villas (because that is were the big money is for the developers).
obviously you do not speak to the visitors in Gozo because most of them can tell you that they come to Gozo for its natural beauty and not to visit concrete jungles!
In chambray thousands of jobs were promised, tell us how many are working there now?
Mark Vella
Feb 1st, 12:22
You live up in the clouds or have something to get from it Mr Azzopardi.
Mr leo attard
Feb 1st, 19:28
destroying the natural aspects of gozo which attracts tourists is not the answer! It has been proven that such a development would not be sustainable....Gozitans also need a place to relax. all work and no play make gozo-jack a grumpy boy!
C Galea
Feb 1st, 19:40
Mr Azzopardi if this promise of work will materialise like Smart City we will have full employment here in Gozo
Chambray and Mgarr hotel act as a reminder for us .
We will never trust promises
JJ Debono
Feb 1st, 00:08
G'day, i think for safe keeping as memories of lovely Hondoq next time in Gozo i make sure i take as many photos as possible because believe me in a couple of years time the picture above will look completly different when the fat cat developers will get their filthy dirty hands on it, and all that will be left to photograph would be a mass of concrete buildings and car parks, hotels and boats and restaurants. A bad show indeed. I hope Mepa will listen to the many thousands who are against development of this part of Gozo the country i grew in before leaving the island, and as God intended to be, so why spoil his work eh. You know it make sence. G'day all from downunder where life is worth living.
James Tyrrell
Jan 31st, 22:47
The Hondoq Bay project never was about attracting tourists. It is and always has been about rich people getting richer at the expense of the ordinary Joe in the street. When I saw that they had dropped the marina in favour of a swimming lagoon I found it hilarious. Hondoq Bay doesn’t need a swimming lagoon as God has provided it with a very good natural one. Anyway this swimming lagoon idea is just a ploy by the developers to try and get the people on their side. They are trying to make out that the only problem people have is with a marina but that is only part of the problem. The overall development is a problem as it would destroy the area forever. Plus let’s be honest here, what exactly is a swimming lagoon? It’s a marina without any boats in it, and once they have got that far it will be a simple enough matter to get the swimming lagoon changed to a marina. If this project is given the go-ahead by Mepa it will make the lives of the people of Qala hell for years to come, and it will destroy forever one of the main tourist attractions on the island. If you want to attract tourists to Gozo then for God’s sake stop destroying the places that the tourists want to visit!
I Bugeja
Jan 31st, 22:29
Would be interesting to know who the land belongs to and who are the developers. Perhaps also know the architects!!!!
Lesley Kreupl
Jan 31st, 20:01
As far as I know it was a desalination plant. It is in ruins and can be easily dismantled. The bricks/stones can be used to restore the walls lining the road or for some other purpose.
Mr leo attard
Jan 31st, 19:59
we have been down this road before! This is the developers' frantic attempt to get the project done before the next election --- warning to the govt: you need votes and if this project gets the OK, then many, many, many people are going to bear that in mind in the election looming around the corner. Take a look at the blogs and you will see those against the project far far outnumber those in favor! In fact, i dont think there are any in favor!.........Besides, the church environmentalists, the MEPA directorate, the NGO's, marine biologists, the referendums, the malta transport -- they all spoke out against the project and the negative effects it would have!!!......So what are thes ''wolves'' trying to do now? They are using a trojan horse strategy by proposing to drop the marina in favor of a swimming lagoon so that when the project is done the lagoon could then be easily converted into a marina! and didnt the developers originally claim that the project would not succeed without the marina -- can they explain the contradiction?.... Tell the developers to take a long hike on a short pier and stop taking the people for a self-destructive ride! One of those behind the project Mr V Bajada recently passed away --- ''kulhadd jiehdu mieghu''....
Lesley Kreupl
Jan 31st, 19:57
This project must finally be discarded once and for all!
It is totally ridiculous to continue wasting tax-payers time and money on a project that should never even have got onto a drawing board in the first place let alone left one!
Why did the Qala council go to the trouble of holding a referendum if the results have been ignored? Who paid for it? Or rather who paid for it to be ignored?
What do the guys at MEPA stand to gain financially if this project is passed? What have the developers paid in 'gifts' already? This whole project stinks and has done from the start.
Please don't turn Hondoq into another sliema.
Let Hondoq become a nature reserve at last, something that can be enjoyed by all.
JJ Debono
Jan 31st, 19:25
What a load of bollocks. make up your mind john, nobody lives forever and time is running short. refering to the snail Mepa. DannyBoy DoDo UK. visiter.
joseph saliba
Jan 31st, 19:16
T'would be interesting to be enlightened on the building in the picture. When, and to what purpose was it built. Can it be taken down?
Mr Derek Steele
Jan 31st, 20:41
If I am not mistaken the building that you allude to is the now defunct desallination plant.I suppose it could be turned into an appartment block?I don't think so but am surprised nobody has thought of that.On a serious note however please,please please leave Hondoq alone!!!!!!!!
Pierre Mangion
Jan 31st, 19:15
i will accept bets that this project will be approved secretly before the next election!!!
Janet Bayes
Jan 31st, 19:07
The developers want to remove the yacht marina plans? Well the public would like it know that the developers can take their plans and shred them - - all of them.
Wilfred Camilleri
Jan 31st, 18:12
This development should not go ahead regardless of what changes the developers make. A swimming lagoon when there is a perfectly beautiful sandy beach a few meters away? It can only be a red herring. I bet that if the development is approved, before you know it motorboats will start appearing in the "swimming lagoon!"
These developers should be told that the development will not go ahead under any circumstances!
Peadar Farrell
Jan 31st, 17:33
The beauty of the Photograph say its all, it would be a massive crime to ruin such unspoiled beauty in order to line a Developers pockets. I cannot think of anywhere in the World that such an idea would even be considered.
Joseph John Camilleri
Jan 31st, 19:20
Exactly, the beauty of the photograph says it all. I like to go there when I'm in Gozo. Developers keep your hands off Hondoq.
John J Borg
Jan 31st, 21:19
you should see some close ups before you speak, bet you have never been there either, apart from the bay area...its a dump site!!
James Tyrrell
Jan 31st, 22:44
Yes John and we know why it has become a dump site don't we? So that some nice developer can clean it up for us! It's known as the Maltese way.
Anthony Formosa
Jan 31st, 17:06
I remember AD and BLM complaining about the hunting and trapping hides in the countryside.
Carmel Xuereb
Jan 31st, 17:05
Imhatra li l-permess johrog la gejja l-elezzjoni. viva Gonzi.
david debattista
Jan 31st, 20:40
Then it is up to all of us in Malta and Gozo to stop them ! Even if it means having to spend our holidays in other more environmentally friendly countries and not just on a piece of Rock . This is what is already happening in Gozo. NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THOSE OF US WHO SEE THIS DANGER AND BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION AND AWARENESS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC BY SPEAKING OUT TO TRY AND SAVE WHAT LITTLE IS LEFT ON OUR SMALL ISLAND ARE BEING HARASSED AND INTIMIDATED BY THE SAME CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS . IF SUCH IS THE CASE MR CAMEL XUERED THEN IT WILL GIVE ALL OF US AN IDEA OF THE INTEGRITY MEPA HAS NOT TO MENTION A UNDESERVED IMAGE TO THE MINISTER FOR CULTURE AND TOURISM . Past mistakes are there for all to see LETS US LEARN FROM THEM !!!!! Some type of harassment that is taking place IN GOZO is dangerous ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO PROTECT HIMSELF. MINISTER FOR GOZO AND COMMISSIONER OF POLICE TAKE NOTE . more to follow !
Michael de Marco
Jan 31st, 16:43
It's not hard to guess what drives these developers to persist with this foul application in the face of public condemnation - the vast profits to be made from the grab of public land, possibly with encouraging support from bent officials.
Darren J. Galea
Jan 31st, 16:24
It's a pity that unscrupulous developers need to take over natural beauty spots like this to feed already bulging pockets - if they want to make a difference and work to enhance Malta as a tourist destination then why not develop and improve spots which, as they stand, offer nothing to tourists and locals. This would augur well with those against the current proposal and end result is a win-win situation.
Mr Karl Ciarlo'
Jan 31st, 16:19
The developers should remove the entire application.
C Galea
Jan 31st, 16:03
How generous of the developers to spend thousands of euros to create a "swimming lagoon" which by coincidence is going to be similar to the yacht marina
and of course when they get the permit they can easily apply for amendments and the yacht marina will reappear!!!
Kleaven Maniscalco
Jan 31st, 17:10
Mepa is not a fool. A swimming lagoon would be of limited depth which will not cater for most boats to come in comfortably
Wilfred Camilleri
Jan 31st, 18:16
Mr. Maniscalco, you obviously do not know Maltese very well if you really believe that a swimming lagoon will not eventually be full of boats of every kind. All you have to so is look at the summer residences, oops I mean "boat houses" in Armier and elsewhere. If MEPA is not a fool as you claim, howbcome these "boat houses" are still standing?
Kleaven Maniscalco
Jan 31st, 20:36
@Wilfred Camilleri
Well I know what I did when I was working on the project - so I know what fits and what does not
O GALEA
Jan 31st, 15:50
if we continue on this self-destructive path... we shall be cutting off the hand that feeds us.
Tourists do NOT want to go to gozo to see more-of-the-same like Malta.
Malta is RUINED... do not allow anybody to spoil Gozo now.
John J Borg
Jan 31st, 21:27
Tourists do NOT want to go to gozo to see more-of-the-same like Malta......nice theory but it looks like it works the other way round...there are tourists in malta while gozo has been completely empty for weeks!!!
Patrick Zammit
Jan 31st, 15:46
Why is Mepa even considering such a monstrosity on ODZ land when we all know how difficult Mepa can be to grant a slight alteration to an already built up structure in an already built up area?
Haven't we already done irreparably harm to our country?
Can Mepa pls explain why, according to the Environmental Performance Index (Yale University), Malta is ranked at position 87, a lower ranking than countries like Zimbabwe, Viet Nam and Brazil.
http://epi.yale.edu/epi2012/rankings
A Bonett
Jan 31st, 15:40
May I ask to whom this pice of land belongs? Is it public land? It's not that I am in favour of this project, but I am interested to know the outcome !
Bernard Storace
Jan 31st, 15:34
MEPA....listen to the voice of the people and stifle once and for all this mad hatters proposal and gain some credence with us, the people.
Pamela Hansen
Jan 31st, 15:29
Just leave the bay alone. Haven't we done enough damage?
Adrian E. Camilleri
Jan 31st, 16:43
Hear, hear Pamela!
A. MICALLEF
Jan 31st, 15:26
Forsi il-Mepa terga tghamel bhall ta l-Imgarr Hotel, GHAL DIN ID-DARBA U L-AHHAR DARBA
nohorgu l-permess. Veru il-Mepa hija VILI !!!
dieter bulten
Jan 31st, 15:18
Does anyone besides the developers want this? Can someone in politics just say . 'No dude your ideas are self centered and suck for the rest of the population'
Alexander Pace Gouder.
Jan 31st, 15:15
Hands off Hondoq. - At least MEPA leave this place as created by Nature. This place is enjoyed both by Gozitians and Maltese. Alexander Pace Gouder as PRO for Balluta Residents Association. (Registered NGO)
Joseph Debono
Jan 31st, 15:04
Mela ghadhom bi hsiebhom li ha jibnu hemm jew??!!!
R. Cilia
Jan 31st, 15:01
Ibqa cert li jekk ma jidhlux mill-bieb jidhlu mit-tieqa!
pat muscat
Jan 31st, 15:21
That Gonzi kollox possible!
Ms Maria Vella
Jan 31st, 14:55
Lets hope Mepa does not approve this application, why do we have to spoil our little island with monstrous development? oh yes for money of course
Astrid Vella
Jan 31st, 14:46
It's strange how in their first application the Hondoq Developers claimed insistently that the project was not viable without the yacht marina, and yet now they're trying to re-apply without the same marina.
I can only say that this reflects very poorly on their credibility and that of their project, which is now exposed as being chiefly aimed at filling this unbuilt coastline with hundreds of flats and villas, to add to the thousands of vacant flats that already exist in Gozo.
Martin Bugeja
Jan 31st, 15:23
Touche' Ms Vella!
O GALEA
Jan 31st, 15:47
DITTO :-(
Kleaven Maniscalco
Jan 31st, 15:56
@ Astrid Vella
Well the new design was a response to the public consultation held in May 2010. But guess what? someone was not sincere in his replies
C Galea
Jan 31st, 16:05
Astrid I agree 100%.
Mr Andrew Camilleri
Jan 31st, 16:34
Thank you Astrid for once again making all the effort to defend our country from developers. What you say should open MEPA's eyes to what the developers plan to do.
Adrian E. Camilleri
Jan 31st, 16:46
Please keep up the pressure AGAINST the development please. We love the place as it is! Thanks for all your work though.