Church commission condemns attack on lesbians

dingaling rockcliffe

Jan 24th, 13:01

The last time i threw a stone it must have hit a wall rikashaded back and hit me on my bloody head, had to have 3 stiches, haven't done it since.

Karl Farrugia

Jan 24th, 12:35

They will say, however, that that's the Old Testament and shouldn't be taken seriously. Better to quote Malta's father of the Church on Romans 1:26-32.

P Bonnici

Jan 24th, 12:38

Mr Portelli, if we had to enforce all the teachings, you will also get a few slaps round your head for something or other.

P Bonnici

Jan 24th, 12:39

Mr Portelli, if we had to enforce all the teachings, you will also get a few slaps round your head for something or other.

Anthony Galea

Jan 24th, 13:13

The only one with double standards is YOU.

The Church is NOT against homosexuality because of any sentence, passage or text in the Bible. The Church, as the follower of Christ, follows His teachings that the sacrament of marriage should be only the realm of an adult male and an adult female, because nature made their genital organs thus, for procreation and the physical act of love.

That said, the Church is NOT against homosexuals AT ALL-indeed there are several priests who are gay!

So your point of merely taking one Bible passage and quoting it to appear wise and that you know the Bible more than Christians is exposed for the lame statement it really is.
You want a quote by Jesus Christ?
Mark 12:31
The second is this: 'Love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."
This isn't a quote by some anonymous author, but it is something jesus Christ actually SAID. Maybe you should read that before you look up online references to biblical quotes on homosexuality :)

Mr Ryan Portelli

Jan 24th, 16:47

Funny you should say that, because growing up I would always hear from members of the Clergy that homosexuality is bad, and no matter how much you sugar coat it, that is what you are saying as well. Because if sex is ONLY intended for a male and a female to procreate, then any other form of sex (gay sex, sex using condoms, masturbation, etc) is bad.

Jesus also said, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.” (Matthew 5:17), thus meaning that all the laws of the Old Testament still stand.

May I also remind you that “there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of PERSONAL INTERPRETATION, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21)

We can contradict each other with Bible quotes all day long, but one thing’s for sure: the Church has never welcomed homosexuals – on the contrary, it has been one of the largest sources of homophobia ever. I’m just surprised to see how shocked the Church commission was over this issue.

And if you still think that the Church isn’t against homosexuals, just wait until they try to introduce gay civil marriage in Malta, and then we’ll see just how against homosexuals it really is.

Anthony Galea

Jan 25th, 08:46

No, the Church is NOT against homosexuals, period! Indeed, regarding the matter of sexuality, it's not homosexuality which the Church opposes, but anything outside the bounds of one adult male and one adult female-and here I mean the sacrament of marriage, which in a Christian society used to be all marriage.

Nowadays, however, people do not want a Christian marriage, and prefer to follow a union without any religion of any kind in it-therefore homosexual marriage, polygamy, and anything else really, should be allowed in the 'spirit' of libertinism-and the Church accepts that.

However, if the matter is subjected to a referendum or a parliamentary motion, how could you expect Christians to act like non-Christians when it pleases the irreligious? If you find out that the majority of the Maltese people still consider themselves Christian then, don't froth at the mouth, that's what democratic majority win is all about...

Mr Ryan Portelli

Jan 26th, 14:18

So what you’re saying is that the church is against anything other than sex between a Christian married couple with the aim of procreating, hence this INCLUDES homosexuality … hahahaha good effort at trying to sugar coat it once again, but homophobia and scaring people with hell fire go hand in hand.

You are right about the definition of democracy, and that is exactly why such issues should not be subjected to a referendum. Otherwise issues which only affect the minority (such as gay marriage and divorce) would never be introduced. This is religious egoism at its best – “if I can’t have something, no one else can.” These are civil rights, not issues that are up for debate. Luckily the Maltese people realised this, and in the case of the Divorce referendum they voted not by their religious beliefs, but by what they thought was right, even if it’s only to suit a minority.

Kenneth Grima

Jan 24th, 11:53

@P.vINCENTI

The situation we're living today is the church's fault as in the past we (us LGBT persons) were called all kind of names such as abominations, the least the church can do today about such cases is to condemn them.

Mr G Micallef

Jan 24th, 11:00

Considering the fact that the Church is made of people, and young people in this case, who have a right to voice their views like you do, I do not see why not.

P. Vincenti

Jan 24th, 11:07

Do we really need Mr Consiglio's opinion? Just asking!

Pia Attard

Jan 24th, 11:18

Well said P Vincenti haahah! Kemm int vojt Mr Consiglio.

Kenneth Grima

Jan 24th, 11:18

@KARL CONSIGLIO

I'm no fan of the church but in this case, any commission not to condemn this act would be embarissing. Many LGBT persons still consider themselves part of the church.

Rich Brad saunders

Jan 24th, 11:21

I think the church need to sort their own problem first before attempting to brush away theirs, although it's good that they are doing their best to solve this issue, I am not from Malta, nevertheless Malta has a big issue/problem with such issues & in particular racialism, which is very bad indeed for a small island, unless one has loads of money , then everyone is accepted, including the tourists and foreign residents alike. as soon as the spending money runs out, they are not interested any further.